1. Forum
  2. USENET
  3. alt.history.what-if

  • Re: Do you believe that a surviving Tsarist Russia or, alternatively, some other kind of non-Communist Russia would have been any more successful at Russifying Russia's non-Russian territories?

    From The Horny Goat@lcraver@home.ca to alt.history.what-if on Tue Jul 26 08:45:15 2022
    From Newsgroup: alt.history.what-if

    On Sun, 10 Nov 2019 11:11:57 -0800 (PST), WolfBear <m4josh@gmail.com>
    wrote:

    Do you believe that a surviving Tsarist Russia or, alternatively, some other kind of non-Communist Russia would have been any more successful at Russifying Russia's non-Russian territories? For the record, this graphic shows the Russian percentage in various republics of the USSR in 1989--as well as the Russian percentage there in the 2010s:

    https://gdb.rferl.org/4C34CA8B-2971-4F81-8EDE-B0AFBB2496A4.jpg

    Also, for the record, mass ethnic cleansing is excluded from this scenario. So, Russification could only be achieved either through voluntary mass migration or through successful assimilation that causes some or even many non-Russians to abandon their non-Russian identity and instead begin identifying as Russians.

    Presumably your scenario does not require 'mass ethnic cleansing' to
    be due to RUSSIAN efforts - e.g. some version of Hitler who might
    REALLY dislike Ukrainians or other 'Soviet nationality'

    Or the exact opposite - somebody who establishes a Jewish or other
    ethnic 'homeland' within the Russian empire.

    Of course the external factor need not be German - the Japanese were
    not well known for their treatment of minorities either.
    --- Synchronet 3.21d-Linux NewsLink 1.2