• Franklin's VP

    From Louis Epstein@le@main.lekno.ws to alt.history.what-if on Mon Jan 22 21:38:31 2024
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    Over at electoral-vote.com someone nominated
    Benjamin Franklin (1706-90) for best president
    the USA never had.

    Since the constitutional presidency began
    just one year before Franklin died,the
    issue of what happened when a president
    died in office would have come up a half
    century earlier than it did in OTL.

    In circumstances that led to the elder-statesman
    Franklin getting the nod in 1789,who would have
    been the likeliest first VP?

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  • From Graham Truesdale@graham.truesdale@gmail.com to alt.history.what-if on Mon Jan 22 14:39:42 2024
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    On Monday, January 22, 2024 at 9:38:33rC>PM UTC, Louis Epstein wrote:
    Over at electoral-vote.com someone nominated
    Benjamin Franklin (1706-90) for best president
    the USA never had.

    Since the constitutional presidency began
    just one year before Franklin died,the
    issue of what happened when a president
    died in office would have come up a half
    century earlier than it did in OTL.

    In circumstances that led to the elder-statesman
    Franklin getting the nod in 1789,who would have
    been the likeliest first VP?

    One such circumstance might have been Washington dying on (say) 14 December 1788, 11 years before his OTL death. With the Constitution ratified on the assumption that GW would be the first President, the leadership might have turned to Franklin as the only other person with comparable stature.
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  • From Louis Epstein@le@main.lekno.ws to alt.history.what-if on Wed Jan 24 02:29:37 2024
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    Washington dying early doesn't answer
    (besides removing him as a possibility)
    the question of who would have become
    VP under Franklin and then president a
    year later.

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  • From trolidous@trolidous@go.com to alt.history.what-if on Wed Jan 24 00:22:37 2024
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    On 1/22/24 13:38, Louis Epstein wrote:
    Over at electoral-vote.com someone nominated
    Benjamin Franklin (1706-90) for best president
    the USA never had.

    Since the constitutional presidency began
    just one year before Franklin died,the
    issue of what happened when a president
    died in office would have come up a half
    century earlier than it did in OTL.

    In circumstances that led to the elder-statesman
    Franklin getting the nod in 1789,who would have
    been the likeliest first VP?

    -=-=-
    The World Trade Center towers MUST rise again,
    at least as tall as before...or terror has triumphed.

    Second number of votes?

    Each elector casts two, no distinguishment between
    President and Vice President?

    Who would be running?

    Is it feasible that John Adams could still be VP?

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1788%E2%80%9389_United_States_presidential_election
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  • From trolidous@trolidous@go.com to alt.history.what-if on Sun Feb 4 14:24:19 2024
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    On 1/23/24 18:29, Louis Epstein wrote:
    Washington dying early doesn't answer
    (besides removing him as a possibility)
    the question of who would have become
    VP under Franklin and then president a
    year later.

    -=-=-
    The World Trade Center towers MUST rise again,
    at least as tall as before...or terror has triumphed.

    The Wikipedia article on Benjamin Franklin
    gives the idea that he served as the President
    of the Supreme Executive Council of Pennsylvania
    from 1785 to 1788, but he was already in
    declining health during the Constitutional
    Convention at Philadelphia in 1787 and later.
    In this alternate time line he would probably
    be in better health before he died.

    The 1788 Electoral College vote shows John
    Adams with 34 votes and John Jay with 9.

    One minimum change from our time line might
    be an earlier Adams.

    You could go down some of the others on the
    list.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1788%E2%80%9389_United_States_presidential_election

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