• Rufus King for President

    From Trolidan7@Trolidan7@eternal-september.org to alt.history.what-if on Sat Dec 17 12:04:16 2022
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    Would it be reasonable to say that a Rufus King
    that won would be so different from our time line
    that it would be difficult to speculate about him?

    Could the Federalists have survived?

    Could anything be inferred about an alternate time
    line where Rufus King became president?
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  • From Rich Rostrom@rrostrom@comcast.net to alt.history.what-if on Sun Dec 18 18:51:08 2022
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    On 12/17/22 2:04 PM, Trolidan7 wrote:
    Would it be reasonable to say that a Rufus King
    that won would be so different from our time line
    that it would be difficult to speculate about him?

    Could the Federalists have survived?

    Could anything be inferred about an alternate time
    line where Rufus King became president?


    The most likely scenario for this would be disaster for the
    US in the War of 1812, with the US forced to cede the entire
    Northwest Territory to Britain as a reserve for its Indian
    allies, Louisiana ceded to Britain as a colony, and Madison
    captured by the British during their raid on Washington.

    That might make the public so disgusted with the Republicans
    that King could win.
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  • From Dimensional Traveler@dtravel@sonic.net to alt.history.what-if on Sun Dec 18 18:42:37 2022
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    On 12/18/2022 4:51 PM, Rich Rostrom wrote:
    On 12/17/22 2:04 PM, Trolidan7 wrote:
    Would it be reasonable to say that a Rufus King
    that won would be so different from our time line
    that it would be difficult to speculate about him?

    Could the Federalists have survived?

    Could anything be inferred about an alternate time
    line where Rufus King became president?


    The most likely scenario for this would be disaster for the
    US in the War of 1812, with the US forced to cede the entire
    Northwest Territory to Britain as a reserve for its Indian
    allies, Louisiana ceded to Britain as a colony, and Madison
    captured by the British during their raid on Washington.

    That might make the public so disgusted with the Republicans
    that King could win.

    With a peace settlement that disastrous for the US, would America even
    be allowed to vote for President?
    --
    I've done good in this world. Now I'm tired and just want to be a cranky
    dirty old man.

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  • From pyotr filipivich@phamp@mindspring.com to alt.history.what-if on Tue Dec 20 09:50:42 2022
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    Dimensional Traveler <dtravel@sonic.net> on Sun, 18 Dec 2022 18:42:37
    -0800 typed in alt.history.what-if the following:
    On 12/18/2022 4:51 PM, Rich Rostrom wrote:
    On 12/17/22 2:04 PM, Trolidan7 wrote:
    Would it be reasonable to say that a Rufus King
    that won would be so different from our time line
    that it would be difficult to speculate about him?

    Could the Federalists have survived?

    Could anything be inferred about an alternate time
    line where Rufus King became president?


    The most likely scenario for this would be disaster for the
    US in the War of 1812, with the US forced to cede the entire
    Northwest Territory to Britain as a reserve for its Indian
    allies, Louisiana ceded to Britain as a colony, and Madison
    captured by the British during their raid on Washington.

    That might make the public so disgusted with the Republicans
    that King could win.

    With a peace settlement that disastrous for the US, would America even
    be allowed to vote for President?

    Why not?

    After all, does a Great Power really care what the rabble do?

    How long until the various states start seeing if they can
    individually cut a deal with Britain?
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    pyotr filipivich
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