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It's common to post to alt.home.repair and rec.autos.tech yet paganini
calls that a bad crosspost. Why?
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Il 07/07/2026 10:07, Gronk ha scritto:

It's common to post to alt.home.repair and rec.autos.tech yet paganini
calls that a bad crosspost. Why?

Due to the many abuses committed over the years by trolls and the like,
I've made it a rule that posting on alt.* and cross-posting on any other hierarchy is prohibited. For same reason a lot of group's are read-only (forbidden post).

I'm sorry, but someone's fault has made it impossible for anyone to get
credit anymore.


Sincerely
--
Ivo Gandolfo
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Gronk <invalid@invalid.invalid> wrote:

It's common to post to alt.home.repair and rec.autos.tech yet paganini
calls that a bad crosspost. Why?

IMO: Free + anonymous = vulnerable to abuse.

You could always use a service that reqires registration.
--
^-^. Sn!pe, bird-brain. All that was old is new again.

My pet rock Gordon just is.
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Ivo Gandolfo wrote:

It's common to post to alt.home.repair and rec.autos.tech yet paganini
calls that a bad crosspost. Why?

Due to the many abuses committed over the years by trolls and the like,
I've made it a rule that posting on alt.* and cross-posting on any other hierarchy is prohibited. For same reason a lot of group's are read-only (forbidden post).

I'm sorry, but someone's fault has made it impossible for anyone to get credit anymore.

Thanks for the explanation. It makes sense. I don't begrudge you as I
wouldn't wish newsgroup moderation on anyone. You have to deal with
spammers like those who already posted unhelpfully in this thread.

It was a home tire mounting question, where it's commonly discussed on
a.h.r as on r.a.t, and even more so, on the former than on the latter.

But I understand your rationale.
You have to do what you have to do to combat those spamming slime.

Besides, alt.home.repair has devolved mostly into political spam anyway.
Even Paolo was forced to place a filter for a year on that specific group.

I never understood these spammers (like Mr. Man-wai Chang, in this
newsgroup). What dopamine high they get by spamming is beyond me.

As for the two groups, if required, it's easy enough to doublepost.
I will not respond further as the spammers may attack me just as well.
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On 07 Jul 2026, Gronk <invalid@invalid.invalid> posted some news:112j9ja$2mrqd$1@paganini.bofh.team:

Ivo Gandolfo wrote:

It's common to post to alt.home.repair and rec.autos.tech yet
paganini calls that a bad crosspost. Why?

Due to the many abuses committed over the years by trolls and the
like, I've made it a rule that posting on alt.* and cross-posting on
any other hierarchy is prohibited. For same reason a lot of group's
are read-only (forbidden post).

I'm sorry, but someone's fault has made it impossible for anyone to
get credit anymore.

Thanks for the explanation. It makes sense. I don't begrudge you as I wouldn't wish newsgroup moderation on anyone. You have to deal with
spammers like those who already posted unhelpfully in this thread.

You're so full of shit, Gronk.

You xpost, sealion and stir shit up just as much as anyone else on
Usenet.

When you get your ass kicked, you run away and hide.

Hell, you probably helped cause half the retrictions Ivo has
implemented.

As for you, Ivo. You're a puss and you do shit research to vet those submitting "complaints". You fell right into fake netkkkop hands and
did their bidding. They suckered you using one of the oldest tricks on
Usenet.
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On 07 Jul 2026, snipeco.2@gmail.com (Sn!pe) posted some news:1rxvsqw.gks13b1xd9hpkN%snipeco.2@gmail.com:

Gronk <invalid@invalid.invalid> wrote:

It's common to post to alt.home.repair and rec.autos.tech yet paganini
calls that a bad crosspost. Why?

IMO: Free + anonymous = vulnerable to abuse.

You could always use a service that reqires registration.

Which results in direct censorship.

Apparently it's okay for someone to post their opinion, but NOT OKAY for others to disagree with it.
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Il 13/07/2026 07:50, Mairzy Doats ha scritto:

As for you, Ivo. You're a puss and you do shit research to vet those submitting "complaints". You fell right into fake netkkkop hands and
did their bidding. They suckered you using one of the oldest tricks on Usenet.

Well, since I'm not so enlightened, please give me the Right Path to
follow. Please enlighten me and tell me how to proceed and how to behave.
I will follow your instructions as if they were law.




P.S. If you haven't figured it out yet stick your tongue where your
wallet is, until then STFU if you don't want to loose your privilege. On
their own server every newsmaster is the undisputed Supreme Emperor.
You're all guests here and never forget that. Usenet it's a privilege,
not a right, like some other service's (IRC, etc).



Sincerely
--
Ivo Gandolfo
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Il 13/07/2026 07:51, Mairzy Doats ha scritto:

Apparently it's okay for someone to post their opinion, but NOT OKAY for others to disagree with it.

No one's stopping you from posting your opinion.

But not by insulting people
Not by pretending to be anyone else (nymshifting).
Not by making provocative arguments and without maintaining a civilized conversation (like you would at a bar)

If you really can't maintain some civility here, you're not in the right place, I'm sorry. And don't bring up the idea of rCirCi"moron X does it too! Look at moron Y's post!" Those guys are certainly wrong but that doesn't automatically give you permission to behave like them. Learn some
civility and then come back, we'll discuss it. (I'm not referring to you personally, this warning applies to everyone)


Sincerely
--
Ivo Gandolfo
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Mairzy Doats <md@panix.com> wrote:

On 07 Jul 2026, snipeco.2@gmail.com (Sn!pe) posted some news:1rxvsqw.gks13b1xd9hpkN%snipeco.2@gmail.com:

[...]

IMO: Free + anonymous = vulnerable to abuse.

You could always use a service that reqires registration.

Which results in direct censorship.

Hardly. TOSsed from one NSP? Use another.

Apparently it's okay for someone to post their opinion,
but NOT OKAY for others to disagree with it.

Feeble nonsense; Usenet is a broad church.
--
^-^. Sn!pe, bird-brain. My pet rock Gordon just is.


All that was old is new again.
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On 12 Jul 2026, Mairzy Doats <md@panix.com> posted some news:1131ubm$slc3$1@paganini.bofh.team:

On 07 Jul 2026, Gronk <invalid@invalid.invalid> posted some news:112j9ja$2mrqd$1@paganini.bofh.team:

Ivo Gandolfo wrote:

It's common to post to alt.home.repair and rec.autos.tech yet
paganini calls that a bad crosspost. Why?

Due to the many abuses committed over the years by trolls and the
like, I've made it a rule that posting on alt.* and cross-posting on
any other hierarchy is prohibited. For same reason a lot of group's
are read-only (forbidden post).

I'm sorry, but someone's fault has made it impossible for anyone to
get credit anymore.

Thanks for the explanation. It makes sense. I don't begrudge you as I
wouldn't wish newsgroup moderation on anyone. You have to deal with
spammers like those who already posted unhelpfully in this thread.

You're so full of shit, Gronk.

You xpost, sealion and stir shit up just as much as anyone else on
Usenet.

When you get your ass kicked, you run away and hide.

Hell, you probably helped cause half the retrictions Ivo has
implemented.

Gronk had help from his other American hating pals.

As for you, Ivo. You're a puss and you do shit research to vet those submitting "complaints". You fell right into fake netkkkop hands and
did their bidding. They suckered you using one of the oldest tricks
on Usenet.

I'd somewhat agree with you. The same jerk who was abusing paganini and
other servers got his ass totally kicked via another news server, thanks
to an admin with testicles. Shut that turd right up because everyone
turned on him and had the means to do it.

Ivo and Ray should both be taking lessons from that instead of stroking
their gutless weak-assed sycophants. They both capitulated and actually
helped the jerk at the expense of others who had nothing at all to do
with any of it.

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Il 15/07/2026 11:17, opportunity knocked ha scritto:

Ivo and Ray should both be taking lessons from that instead of stroking
their gutless weak-assed sycophants. They both capitulated and actually helped the jerk at the expense of others who had nothing at all to do
with any of it.

No one is stopping you from setting up your own Usenet server,
configuring it however and whenever you like, establishing your own
usage rules, and then requesting peering from other servers. If you do,
you can have your first peering with me, no problem.

I remind you (and everyone) that the Usenet network is a privilege, not
a right. Each news administrator on their server is the Undisputed
Emperor and they do what they want, but above all, they set their own
rules. It's up to the other news administrators to accept or reject
these rules during peering. Users are granted use and access (free or otherwise), which can be revoked at any time.

Many (or almost all) believe that Usenet is like a public square, where
they can do whatever they want. No, I'm sorry, but that's not the case.
A good example is a bar or a restaurant. The owner sets the rules,
times, and everything else, and it's up to those who enter to respect
them. If you don't like it, the owner points to the door and you have to leave. It works the same way here. You can consider it right or wrong,
but that won't change the state of affairs.

Because, going back to your topic, there will always be a conflict to
resolve and each of the contenders will always think "I'm right and he's wrong, blah blah blah." It's been that way since Usenet was born. We
news administrators usually take both lusers and kick them out when
these things happen, because when these things happen it's because _you_
users haven't even learned netiquette, let alone the basics of civil coexistence. You want to start a war? I personally have nothing against
it, but please get out of usenet, get a life, and go to do your war on
another square.

I have no idea what Ray thinks (or other newsadmin's), but judging by
how he operates on his server, I highly doubt he thinks differently than
I do (same other newsadmins). Most likely I was talking into thin air,
but so be it...


Sincerely
--
Ivo Gandolfo
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Please be nice.
(S. HTTP://Gloucester.Insomnia247.NL/ fuer Kontaktdaten!)
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On 15 Jul 2026, =?UTF-8?B?Q8OzaWzDrW4=?= =?UTF-8?B?IE5pb2Nsw6Fzw61u?= =?UTF-8?B?IEdsb3N0w6lpcg==?= <thanks-to@Taf.com> posted some news:1138ivu$kep$4@rasp.pasdenom.info:

Please be nice.
(S. HTTP://Gloucester.Insomnia247.NL/ fuer Kontaktdaten!)

Nice is for knaves and mice.
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