Is it easy to create a bogus Usenet? Of course, you do it outside the jurisdiction of United States of America, of course!
Can Hong Kong (with China's help) do it with ease? How about Britain?
Usenet is not under the jurisdiction of United States of America, it is
a worldwide distributed service. Each News Service Provider is under
the jurisdiction of its own national lawmakers individually.
On 6/23/2026 2:10 AM, Sn!pe wrote:
Usenet is not under the jurisdiction of United States of America, it is
a worldwide distributed service. Each News Service Provider is under
the jurisdiction of its own national lawmakers individually.
But is the word "Usenet" like a registered trademark, that all messages
are supposed to sync with the Usenet in USA? Unless... unless...
They created a bogus NNTP network and called it "Usenet". :)
The reason is to conduct spy and terrorist operations within USA, as for example. Or maybe to send an agent to USA that behaves like a certain
person outside USA, like a double.
Mr. Man-wai Chang <toylet.toylet@gmail.com> wrote:
Is it easy to create a bogus Usenet? Of course, you do it outside the
jurisdiction of United States of America, of course!
Usenet is not under the jurisdiction of United States of America, it is
a worldwide distributed service. Each News Service Provider is under
the jurisdiction of its own national lawmakers individually.
Can Hong Kong (with China's help) do it with ease? How about Britain?
If Hong Kong has the blessing of the CCP it can, or if it can escape
"The Great Firewall of China" it can. Anywhere that can host a
newserver can join Usenet if it can find peers. Any user anywhere can >connect to any newsserver worldwide if not blocked by a firewall.
A NNTP news service need not be connected to Usenet, it can be a
stand-alone or peer with any other news service that doesn't propagate
to Usenet.
Mr. Man-wai Chang <toylet.toylet@gmail.com> wrote:
On 6/23/2026 2:10 AM, Sn!pe wrote:
Usenet is not under the jurisdiction of United States of America, it is
a worldwide distributed service. Each News Service Provider is under
the jurisdiction of its own national lawmakers individually.
But is the word "Usenet" like a registered trademark, that all messages
are supposed to sync with the Usenet in USA? Unless... unless...
Of course not, it's shorthand for "The Users' Network", originally built
on the crude early Internet that connected universities around the
world. It's completely decentralised and every Usenet newsserver >synchronises with every other newsserver independently of US control.
They created a bogus NNTP network and called it "Usenet". :)
The reason is to conduct spy and terrorist operations within USA, as for
example. Or maybe to send an agent to USA that behaves like a certain
person outside USA, like a double.
That's fantastic nonsense.
You should read about what Usenet is and how it relates to the Internet
as a whole.
Clue: What many people think of as "The Internet" is actually just the
World Wide Web. There is very much more than that to it.
. . .
If a server accesses a group, eventually every other server with
access will all sync, but not in the manner Chang is suggesting. While >difficult, it would be possible to bypass the United States
completely. No one country is necessary to propagate articles.
At one time people in China could access some, maybe all, of
Usenet. There were three regulars in alt.friends who posted from
China. Since nothing the Chinese Communist Party (CCP) would have
viewed as subversive was ever posted, from anyone, there wasn't
anything for them to fear from that.
This was around 20 years ago. I have no idea what access, if any,
is available now.
Is it easy to create a bogus Usenet? Of course, you do it outside the jurisdiction of United States of America, of course!
Can Hong Kong (with China's help) do it with ease? How about Britain?
On Tue, 23 Jun 2026 01:37:10 +0800, Mr. Man-wai Chang wrote:
Is it easy to create a bogus Usenet? Of course, you do it outside the jurisdiction of United States of America, of course!
Can Hong Kong (with China's help) do it with ease? How about Britain?
Bogus Usenet, you meant like GG?
KenitoBenito <...> wrote:
. . .
If a server accesses a group, eventually every other server with >>access will all sync, but not in the manner Chang is suggesting. While >>difficult, it would be possible to bypass the United States
completely. No one country is necessary to propagate articles.
That suggests you somehow have control over who others peer with, unless
you somehow got everybody to implement Distribution in exactly the same
way. And control someone else's News site accepts users.
Giveh Usenet's utter lack of centralized control, none of that is
possible.
On Tue, 23 Jun 2026 01:37:10 +0800, Mr. Man-wai Chang wrote:
Is it easy to create a bogus Usenet? Of course, you do it outside the
jurisdiction of United States of America, of course!
Can Hong Kong (with China's help) do it with ease? How about Britain?
Bogus Usenet, you meant like GG?
Tue, 23 Jun 2026 07:14:40 -0000 (UTC), Adam H. Kerman <ahk@chinet.com>: >>KenitoBenito wrote:
. . .
If a server accesses a group, eventually every other server with >>>access will all sync, but not in the manner Chang is suggesting. While >>>difficult, it would be possible to bypass the United States
completely. No one country is necessary to propagate articles.
That suggests you somehow have control over who others peer with, unless >>you somehow got everybody to implement Distribution in exactly the same >>way. And control someone else's News site accepts users.
Giveh Usenet's utter lack of centralized control, none of that is
possible.
It isn't going to happen, but it is POSSIBLE.
KenitoBenito wrote:
Tue, 23 Jun 2026 07:14:40 -0000 (UTC), Adam H. Kerman
<ahk@chinet.com>:
KenitoBenito wrote:
. . .
If a server accesses a group, eventually every other server
with
access will all sync, but not in the manner Chang is suggesting.
While difficult, it would be possible to bypass the United States >>>>completely. No one country is necessary to propagate articles.
That suggests you somehow have control over who others peer with,
unless you somehow got everybody to implement Distribution in exactly
the same way. And control someone else's News site accepts users.
Giveh Usenet's utter lack of centralized control, none of that is >>>possible.
It isn't going to happen, but it is POSSIBLE.
I could be cast as the greatest romantic lover in an upcoming novie
ever seen in Hollywood, desired by every beautiful actress in a
blockbuster hit. Is there a reason to have a serious discussion about
this possibility?
KenitoBenito wrote:
Tue, 23 Jun 2026 07:14:40 -0000 (UTC), Adam H. Kerman <ahk@chinet.com>: >>>KenitoBenito wrote:
. . .
If a server accesses a group, eventually every other server with >>>>access will all sync, but not in the manner Chang is suggesting. While >>>>difficult, it would be possible to bypass the United States
completely. No one country is necessary to propagate articles.
That suggests you somehow have control over who others peer with, unless >>>you somehow got everybody to implement Distribution in exactly the same >>>way. And control someone else's News site accepts users.
Giveh Usenet's utter lack of centralized control, none of that is >>>possible.
It isn't going to happen, but it is POSSIBLE.
I could be cast as the greatest romantic lover in an upcoming novie ever
seen in Hollywood, desired by every beautiful actress in a blockbuster
hit. Is there a reason to have a serious discussion about this
possibility?
May I ask, please: what character does your X-Face represent?
On Tue, 23 Jun 2026 17:17:22 +0100, Mr +n!on wrote:
May I ask, please: what character does your X-Face represent?
Solid. Supposedly.
JJ <jj4public@gmail.com> wrote:
On Tue, 23 Jun 2026 17:17:22 +0100, Mr +n!on wrote:
May I ask, please: what character does your X-Face represent?
Solid. Supposedly.
Thank you. I tried to look it up and failed, is it kanji?
On Tue, 23 Jun 2026 17:17:22 +0100, Mr +n!on wrote:
May I ask, please: what character does your X-Face represent?
Solid. Supposedly.
On Wed, 24 Jun 2026 17:18:17 +0700, JJ wrote:
On Tue, 23 Jun 2026 17:17:22 +0100, Mr +n!on wrote:
May I ask, please: what character does your X-Face represent?
Solid. Supposedly.
<https://www.mdbg.net/chinese/dictionary?cdqchc=%E5%AF%A6>
BeAr
I just found something, it seems to be about the Solid Snake
character in the MSX2 video game, Metal Gear 2: Solid Snake.
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