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On 5/31/2026 6:24 PM, Stefan Ram wrote:

There should be a newsgroup "comp.soft-sys.qt" or
"comp.soft-sys.misc". But since these do not exist...

I did entered "qt" into the search-box of Thunderbird for newsgroup
server Eternal-September, only "netscape.public.mozilla.qt" came up. Of course, it's not related to the QT library.

Usenet is definitly not actively tracking new toys in the computer
graphics world. :)

Qt (software) - Wikipedia
<https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Qt_(software)>

Qt History - Qt Wiki
<https://wiki.qt.io/Qt_History>
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Am 01.06.26 um 07:26 schrieb Mr. Man-wai Chang:

Usenet is definitly not actively tracking new toys in the computer
graphics world. EfOe

You can start an RfD to create such a group if you think there is interest.
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On 6/8/2026 1:58 PM, Marco Moock wrote:

Am 01.06.26 um 07:26 schrieb Mr. Man-wai Chang:

Usenet is definitly not actively tracking new toys in the computer
graphics world. EfOe

You can start an RfD to create such a group if you think there is interest.

How could you talking about graphics and GUI when image attachments are
NOT even allowed in Usenet and external links are suspected? :)
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Verily, in article <110658h$356pv$2@toylet.eternal-september.org>, did toylet.toylet@gmail.com deliver unto us this message:

On 6/8/2026 1:58 PM, Marco Moock wrote:

Am 01.06.26 um 07:26 schrieb Mr. Man-wai Chang:

Usenet is definitly not actively tracking new toys in the computer
graphics world. ?

You can start an RfD to create such a group if you think there is interest.

How could you talking about graphics and GUI when image attachments are
NOT even allowed in Usenet and external links are suspected? :)

External links aren't suspicious if they're to some reasonable site. Use dropbox or imgur or similar, and interested people will follow it.
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The True Melissa <thetruemelissa@gmail.com> wrote or quoted:

Verily, in article <110658h$356pv$2@toylet.eternal-september.org>, did >toylet.toylet@gmail.com deliver unto us this message:

How could you talking about graphics and GUI when image attachments are
NOT even allowed in Usenet and external links are suspected? :)

External links aren't suspicious if they're to some reasonable site. Use >dropbox or imgur or similar, and interested people will follow it.

One can just show GUIs directly in posts.

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On 6/8/2026 8:23 PM, The True Melissa wrote:

Verily, in article <110658h$356pv$2@toylet.eternal-september.org>, did toylet.toylet@gmail.com deliver unto us this message:

How could you talking about graphics and GUI when image attachments are
NOT even allowed in Usenet and external links are suspected? :)

External links aren't suspicious if they're to some reasonable site. Use dropbox or imgur or similar, and interested people will follow it.

You were talking about modern day internet. I don't remember people
talking about image hosting back when internet was first opened to
public use, or maybe I was not allowed to learn, discover and know about it.

Also, back then sound, images and hence movies were not an important
part of internet. Things changed in these decades with hardware
improvement, but slowly...slowly...slowly and being managed/moderated/regulated. :)
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On 6/8/2026 8:36 PM, Stefan Ram wrote:

One can just show GUIs directly in posts.

ASCII art? Your example is overly simplified. Maybe you have and had
tools to convert an image into ASCII art.

A toy nobody was allowed to know about until very later. Nationaly
security stuff? :)
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Verily, in article <110g2e1$1ufut$2@toylet.eternal-september.org>, did toylet.toylet@gmail.com deliver unto us this message:

ASCII art? Your example is overly simplified. Maybe you have and had
tools to convert an image into ASCII art.

There are tools like that. I saw some available in the late 20th
century, and surely they're still around somewhere.

They were never great compared to what talented ASCII artists did, but
they worked after a fashion.
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On 6/12/2026 6:07 PM, The True Melissa wrote:

There are tools like that. I saw some available in the late 20th
century, and surely they're still around somewhere.

They were never great compared to what talented ASCII artists did, but
they worked after a fashion.

Back then, VT-100 and Unix terminals are simple. It's easy to talk about console text interface problems. Modern day GUI might be a little bit difficult to communicate without image attachment/hosting/HTML. Anyway....
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On 6/12/2026 3:48 AM, Mr. Man-wai Chang wrote:

On 6/12/2026 6:07 PM, The True Melissa wrote:

There are tools like that. I saw some available in the late 20th
century, and surely they're still around somewhere.

They were never great compared to what talented ASCII artists did, but
they worked after a fashion.

Back then, VT-100 and Unix terminals are simple. It's easy to talk about console text interface problems. Modern day GUI might be a little bit difficult to communicate without image attachment/hosting/HTML. Anyway....

Fwiw, around 25+ years ago in several of my proxy servers, I coded up a
little embedded web server. It listened on a special port where I could
go in and alter settings, see status, ect using a browser. I never coded
up a GUI using Windows for it.

Iirc, I also had another port where I could telnet into it and issue
commands.
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On 6/13/2026 3:21 AM, Chris M. Thomasson wrote:

Fwiw, around 25+ years ago in several of my proxy servers, I coded up a little embedded web server. It listened on a special port where I could
go in and alter settings, see status, ect using a browser. I never coded
up a GUI using Windows for it.

The interesting part of your little server is security. Was its door key
safe? :)
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On 6/13/2026 9:44 AM, Mr. Man-wai Chang wrote:

On 6/13/2026 3:21 AM, Chris M. Thomasson wrote:

Fwiw, around 25+ years ago in several of my proxy servers, I coded up a
little embedded web server. It listened on a special port where I could
go in and alter settings, see status, ect using a browser. I never coded
up a GUI using Windows for it.

The interesting part of your little server is security. Was its door key safe? :)

Iirc, it was password protected. SHA2-HMAC iirc, hash of the password
with some internal server state. But this was for some of my
experimental work wrt mutating my server settings from a web page.
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Mr. Man-wai Chang wrote:

On 6/8/2026 1:58 PM, Marco Moock wrote:

Am 01.06.26 um 07:26 schrieb Mr. Man-wai Chang:

Usenet is definitly not actively tracking new toys in the computer graphics world. EfOe

You can start an RfD to create such a group if you think there is interest.

How could you talking about graphics and GUI when image attachments are
NOT even allowed in Usenet and external links are suspected? :)

Only old fart regulars are against it. Find one of many many abandoned
Usenet Newsgroups and post your image attachments...

Attached is my public AEC NaClbox key, which should display in Thunderbird. :)





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On 6/14/2026 5:39 AM, Chris M. Thomasson wrote:

Iirc, it was password protected. SHA2-HMAC iirc, hash of the password
with some internal server state. But this was for some of my
experimental work wrt mutating my server settings from a web page.

Did you re-use your "little embedded web server" in other projects? Did
it become a part of something bigger?
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On 6/14/2026 10:50 PM, Mr. Man-wai Chang wrote:

On 6/14/2026 5:39 AM, Chris M. Thomasson wrote:

Iirc, it was password protected. SHA2-HMAC iirc, hash of the password
with some internal server state. But this was for some of my
experimental work wrt mutating my server settings from a web page.

Did you re-use your "little embedded web server" in other projects? Did
it become a part of something bigger?

I used it for many things personally. Actually, on some consulting jobs,
I showed it to some people, some used parts of it. It was more like a
proxy server framework. All in C. But, most of them were way more
interested in me helping them fix some deadlocks and/or potential race conditions in their code. This was way back in very early 2000's.

One of the worst jobs I ever had was for somebody who would lock a mutex
in their io threads loop and call into user code. They said it was fine because of recursive mutex, but they also said it would deadlock from
time to time. It was a fucking nightmare.
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