Is it just me or is Jessie's blueworld no longer accepting what were
perfect valid credentials just a week ago?
Jan <janicekoziol@spamu.prosze.com> posted:
Is it just me or is Jessie's blueworld no longer accepting what were
perfect valid credentials just a week ago?
There was another report of problems: <10p43uf$dn1u$1@anonymous.dont-email.me>
For me it seems ok but I only use it anonymously for reading, not posting.
Is it just me or is Jessie's blueworld no longer accepting what were || |
perfect valid credentials just a week ago? |
On Sun, 15 Mar 2026 20:56:03 GMT, Colin Macleod wrote:
Jan <janicekoziol@spamu.prosze.com> posted:
Is it just me or is Jessie's blueworld no longer accepting what were
perfect valid credentials just a week ago?
There was another report of problems: <10p43uf$dn1u$1@anonymous.dont-email.me> For me it seems ok
but I only use it anonymously for reading, not posting.
Thank you for letting me know because it's probably everyone then.
But I can't get Howard Knight to work on that message id. Can you? http://al.howardknight.net/
I can't get ANY message-id to work on Howard Knight anymore. Can you? Message-ID: <1771878576-7@newsgrouper.org>
Jan <janicekoziol@spamu.prosze.com> wrote:
On Sun, 15 Mar 2026 20:56:03 GMT, Colin Macleod wrote:
Jan <janicekoziol@spamu.prosze.com> posted:
Is it just me or is Jessie's blueworld no longer accepting what were
perfect valid credentials just a week ago?
There was another report of problems:
<10p43uf$dn1u$1@anonymous.dont-email.me> For me it seems ok
but I only use it anonymously for reading, not posting.
Thank you for letting me know because it's probably everyone then.
But I can't get Howard Knight to work on that message id. Can you?
http://al.howardknight.net/
I can't get ANY message-id to work on Howard Knight anymore. Can you?
Message-ID: <1771878576-7@newsgrouper.org>
I have the same problem using Howard Knight's look-up on other M-IDs.
Jeojet@invalid.invalid wrote with Header
Subject: blueworldhosting.com down?
in news:eternal-september.talk (sic) on
Date: Sat, 14 Mar 2026 16:55:43 -0000 (UTC)
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|----------------------------------------------------------------------| >|"Anyone know what's up with them? Connections have been failing for a|
|few days now and several groups were failing to update prior to that. |
| | >|Hope it's just a temporary thing." | >|----------------------------------------------------------------------|
Colin Macleod <user7@newsgrouper.org.invalid> wrote in news:alt.free.newsservers on
Date: Sun, 15 Mar 2026 20:56:03 GMT
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|------------------------------------------------------------------------------|
|"Jan <janicekoziol@spamu.prosze.com> posted: |
| |
Is it just me or is Jessie's blueworld no longer accepting what were || |
perfect valid credentials just a week ago? |
|There was another report of problems: <10p43uf$dn1u$1@anonymous.dont-email.me>|
|For me it seems ok but I only use it anonymously for reading, not posting." |
|------------------------------------------------------------------------------|
I wrote with Header
Subject: abnormally terminated process from March 11th, 2026
to Insomnia 24/7:
"I am sorry if I caused a problem!
In January 2026 I ran an NNTP downloader with no apparent problem as so:
comp.lang.ada:
* ^Date:.*2025 /home/gloucester/coldstorage/Usenet/comp.lang.ada/Blue_World/comp.lang.ada_dated_2025_on_BlueWorldHosting.mbox.txt
On March 11th, 2026 I initiated the same NNTP downloader with the same
NNTP server - i.e. news.BlueWorldHosting.com - for a smaller range of
dates for a much bigger newsgroup:
sci.electronics.design:
* ^Date:.*2026 /home/gloucester/coldstorage/Usenet/sci.electronics.design_downloaded_on_11th_March_2026_dated_2026.mbox.txt
I am sorry that I do not know its PID. A Bourne-Again-Shell timestamp
shows that I started running it at circa 1773233382 seconds = ~gloucester/Seconds_since_the_C_epoch 1773233382
Wed Mar 11 13:49:42 2026
It was still running at 1773275438 =
Thu Mar 12 01:30:38 2026
It is not still running now but it saved nothing, so it probably did not even reach its intended year before becoming terminated.
After it became terminated I unsuccessfully attempted to access news.BlueWorldHosting.com via a different client program. I do not know if news.BlueWorldHosting.com is temporarily not working for every one or if
it is specifically disallowing Insomnia 24/7. If so, then I am sorry!
"Excessive use of resources will result in IP blocking."
says
HTTPS://USENET.BlueWorldHosting.com
Message-ID: <10osshb$hkv$1@nnrp.usenet.blueworldhosting.com>
was posted by a different person via the same USENET-server provider at
Date: Wed, 11 Mar 2026 16:06:17 -0700
(i.e. shortly before the latest time I know that this download attempt was still running). Cf.
Date: Wed, 11 Mar 2026 17:32:58 -0700
Message-ID: <10ot1jr$5it$1@nnrp.usenet.blueworldhosting.com>
Do you know when this download attempt became terminated? Do you know how
it became terminated?"
Insomnia 24/7 responded with:
"it wasn't a serverside
Out-Of-Memory kill or a program segfault,".
I was planning on emailing Jesse Rehmer to ask did I make an excessive
use of resources (and to apologize if so). These quoted USENET
articles by Jeojet@invalid.invalid; Colin MacLeod; and Janicekoziol@spamu.prosze.com make it less likely that I shall send
such an email as soon as I would.
If Jesse Rehmer is reading this and if I can somehow help - e.g. pay -
then let me know!
I thank Colin Macleod for referring to a thread in news:eternal-september.talk
I thank Jesse Rehmer for retention.
I am not able to send this post as a crosspost to
eternal-september.talk
(S. HTTP://Gloucester.Insomnia247.NL/ fuer Kontaktdaten!)
"Jan" == Jan <janicekoziol@spamu.prosze.com> writes:
But I can't get Howard Knight to work on that message id. Can you? http://al.howardknight.net/
I can't get ANY message-id to work on Howard Knight anymore. Can you? Message-ID: <1771878576-7@newsgrouper.org>
Same issue. The port 119 is still open, but port 563 is not...
"Jan" == Jan <janicekoziol@spamu.prosze.com> writes:
Not sure. It might be due to a server
misconfiguration. Another possibility is that port 563 is
deliberately blocked for some reason. Maybe something
specific to the server's SSL setup has changed recently.
On Mon, 16 Mar 2026 07:26:16 +0000, Moses wrote:
Same issue. The port 119 is still open, but port 563 is not...
Thank you!
I didn't even think of testing port 119!
Posting to news.blueworldhosting.com:119 works with current credentials.
But news.blueworldhosting.com:563 failed, between 3/12/2026 & 3/13/2026.
What does being able to post on 119 but not 563 (but only recently) tell
us?
"Sn!pe" == Sn!pe <snipeco.2@gmail.com> writes:
Well, if it were only a certificate expiration, the port
should remain open...
Server closed the connection during the SSL handshake or a firewall
dropped the packet.
"Jesse" == Jesse Rehmer <jesse.rehmer@blueworldhosting.com> writes:
Sorry about that everyone... unexpected maintenance that has now completed.
HEADS UP: I will be taking down the current archive and will be replacing it with a much deeper archive over the coming days. This operation could take several days to more than a week to complete.
The result should be a (mostly) complete archive from 1981 forward.
Jesse Rehmer <jesse.rehmer@blueworldhosting.com> posted:
Sorry about that everyone... unexpected maintenance that has now completed. >>
HEADS UP: I will be taking down the current archive and will be replacing it >> with a much deeper archive over the coming days. This operation could take >> several days to more than a week to complete.
The result should be a (mostly) complete archive from 1981 forward.
That's good news! Will this update involve renumbering of groups?
HEADS UP: I will be taking down the current archive and will be replacing it
with a much deeper archive over the coming days. This operation could take >>> several days to more than a week to complete.
The result should be a (mostly) complete archive from 1981 forward.
That's good news! Will this update involve renumbering of groups?
Yes, it does! I will be sorting the articles in chronological order before feeding them to the new server to give a better user experience when looking through the archives with a newsreader.
A bit later, others popped up, but most are not really maintained (IMHO):
<https://i2pn2.pugleaf.net/groups/alt.free.newssservers>
<https://newsgrouper.org/alt.free.newssservers
A bit later, others popped up, but most are not really maintained (IMHO):
<https://i2pn2.pugleaf.net/groups/alt.free.newssservers>
<https://newsgrouper.org/alt.free.newssservers
Hi Jan, newsgrouper.org is my site. I would be interested to know
why you say it's "not really maintained". What do you think should
be fixed or improved?
On Thu, 19 Mar 2026 09:59:09 GMT, Colin Macleod wrote:
A bit later, others popped up, but most are not really maintained (IMHO): >> <https://i2pn2.pugleaf.net/groups/alt.free.newssservers>
<https://newsgrouper.org/alt.free.newssservers
Hi Jan, newsgrouper.org is my site. I would be interested to know
why you say it's "not really maintained". What do you think should
be fixed or improved?
Hi Colin,
I apologize. I wrote that in a rush (where you can tell I misspelled NewsServers quite a few times due to copy-and-paste hurrying tactics).
snipA bit later, others popped up, but most are not really maintained (IMHO): >>> <https://i2pn2.pugleaf.net/groups/alt.free.newssservers>
<https://newsgrouper.org/alt.free.newssservers
The second-most important task is to make the results accessible to
everyone, no matter their nntp server nor retention, which means, in
effect, it has to be web based such that no nntp server is involved.
Thanks for the positive feedback. I will make one point - when you have found an article that you want to refer other people to, it's best to use
the "Permalink" facility at the bottom of each post. This link has the advantage that other people can click it and get straight to the article without being required to login as a guest, which will happen otherwise.
D <J@m> insightfully wrote: >|--------------------------------------------------------------------| >|"e.g., if the very popular blueworld nntp server really does achieve| >|"...(mostly) complete archive from 1981 forward" etc., this to-date | >|archive would be ideal for mirroring to a web backend, "newsgrouper"|
|might already be that to some extent, but comprehensive untruncated | >|original (with full, unabridged headers) boolean search of articles |
|could be very taxing on any web server [. . .] |
|[. . .]" | >|--------------------------------------------------------------------|
The impressive
HTTPS://USENETArchives.com
by Jozef Jarosciak does not have all the articles which are already in
the old Blue World.
HTTPS://USENETArchives.com/stats.php
shows: "2.4 TB
ARCHIVE SIZE".
So even fgrep through the USENET subset which is offered by >HTTPS://USENETArchives.com
cannot be happily fast.
Blue World cannot be happily less slow. I.e. we do not need "could" in
"could be very taxing on any web server".
|--------------------------------------------------------------------| >|"maybe something like archive.org could manage to remain independent|
|and might even be ideal for hosting a complete live usenet database |
|that could sustain heavy traffic [. . .] |
|[. . .]" | >|--------------------------------------------------------------------|
Archive.org is already underresourced in relation to the heavy traffic
that it endures with the small subset of USENET that it has.
(S. HTTP://Gloucester.Insomnia247.NL/ fuer Kontaktdaten!)
Google.com
YouTube.com
Facebook.com
Instagram.com
ChatGPT.com
Reddit.com
Wikipedia.org
X.com
WhatsApp.com
pornhub.com
...
Google.com receives approximately 5.8 billion unique visits each month in the >United States, which averages to about 193 million visits per day. Globally, >Google processes around 16.4 billion searches daily, indicating its immense >popularity.
...
February 2026
Visits: 164.8M
...
The benefit though, is we, on Usenet, all need a web-searchable archive.
Thanks!
(S. HTTP://Gloucester.Insomnia247.NL/ fuer Kontaktdaten!)
Google.com receives approximately 5.8 billion unique visits each month in the ||-----------------------------------------------------------------------------------|
United States, which averages to about 193 million visits per day. Globally, |
Google processes around 16.4 billion searches daily, indicating its immense |
popularity." |
On Thu, 19 Mar 2026 16:11:19 -0400
Jan <janicekoziol@spamu.prosze.com> wrote:
Why do you keep nym-shifting, 'Marion'?
On Wed, 18 Mar 2026 12:11:27 -0000 (UTC), Jesse Rehmer wrote:
HEADS UP: I will be taking down the current archive and will be replacing it
with a much deeper archive over the coming days. This operation could take >>>> several days to more than a week to complete.
The result should be a (mostly) complete archive from 1981 forward.
That's good news! Will this update involve renumbering of groups?
Yes, it does! I will be sorting the articles in chronological order before >> feeding them to the new server to give a better user experience when looking >> through the archives with a newsreader.
This is good news, although I don't understand how much work it may be.
The benefit though, is we, on Usenet, all need a web-searchable archive.
On Mar 18, 2026 at 2:22:07 AM CDT, "Colin Macleod" <user7@newsgrouper.org.invalid> wrote:
Jesse Rehmer <jesse.rehmer@blueworldhosting.com> posted:
Sorry about that everyone... unexpected maintenance that has now completed. >>>
HEADS UP: I will be taking down the current archive and will be replacing it
with a much deeper archive over the coming days. This operation could take >>> several days to more than a week to complete.
The result should be a (mostly) complete archive from 1981 forward.
That's good news! Will this update involve renumbering of groups?
Yes, it does! I will be sorting the articles in chronological order before feeding them to the new server to give a better user experience when looking through the archives with a newsreader.
Jesse Rehmer <jesse.rehmer@blueworldhosting.com> wrote:
On Mar 18, 2026 at 2:22:07 AM CDT, "Colin Macleod" <user7@newsgrouper.org.invalid> wrote:
Jesse Rehmer <jesse.rehmer@blueworldhosting.com> posted:
Sorry about that everyone... unexpected maintenance that has now completed.
HEADS UP: I will be taking down the current archive and will be replacing it
with a much deeper archive over the coming days. This operation could take
several days to more than a week to complete.
The result should be a (mostly) complete archive from 1981 forward.
That's good news! Will this update involve renumbering of groups?
Yes, it does! I will be sorting the articles in chronological order before feeding them to the new server to give a better user experience when looking
through the archives with a newsreader.
Is this done now? Your website still only mentions having articles
from "2003+". If so, I'll try to cache all the overviews for all my subscribed groups in Tin when I've got a suitable internet
connection (I assume there's no limit on the length of overview
downloads?).
|| |
Yes, it does! I will be sorting the articles in chronological order before |
feeding them to the new server to give a better user experience when looking|
through the archives with a newsreader. |
not@telling.you.invalid (Computer Nerd Kev) posted:
Jesse Rehmer <jesse.rehmer@blueworldhosting.com> wrote:
On Mar 18, 2026 at 2:22:07 AM CDT, "Colin Macleod"
<user7@newsgrouper.org.invalid> wrote:
Jesse Rehmer <jesse.rehmer@blueworldhosting.com> posted:
Sorry about that everyone... unexpected maintenance that has now completed.
HEADS UP: I will be taking down the current archive and will be replacing it
with a much deeper archive over the coming days. This operation could take
several days to more than a week to complete.
The result should be a (mostly) complete archive from 1981 forward.
That's good news! Will this update involve renumbering of groups?
Yes, it does! I will be sorting the articles in chronological order before >>> feeding them to the new server to give a better user experience when looking
through the archives with a newsreader.
Is this done now? Your website still only mentions having articles
from "2003+". If so, I'll try to cache all the overviews for all my
subscribed groups in Tin when I've got a suitable internet
connection (I assume there's no limit on the length of overview
downloads?).
I would also like to know when this switchover happens. I will need to
make some adjustments on Newsgrouper to resync with the updated counts.
| Sysop: | Amessyroom |
|---|---|
| Location: | Fayetteville, NC |
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| Nodes: | 6 (1 / 5) |
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| D/L today: |
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