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  • 2008 Gouges

    From Graham@g.stereo@shaw.ca to alt.food.wine on Tue Oct 17 10:59:49 2023
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    I opened the 2008 Gouges "Les Chaignots" to serve with pork tenderloin
    (NYT recipe).
    Far from being the usual big wines that Gouges produces, this was
    surprisingly light and delicate. Faint cherry and raspberry on the
    nose as well as the palate. A bit of a disappointment but B/B+ on the DaleScale.
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  • From Mark Lipton@notpil@eudrup.ude to alt.food.wine on Wed Oct 18 12:12:52 2023
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    On 10/17/23 12:59 PM, Graham wrote:
    I opened the 2008 Gouges "Les Chaignots" to serve with pork tenderloin
    (NYT recipe).
    Far from being the usual big wines that Gouges produces, this was surprisingly light and delicate. Faint cherry and raspberry on the
    nose as well as the palate. A bit of a disappointment but B/B+ on the DaleScale.

    As you may know, '08 was a really difficult vintage in the Cote d'Or.
    Lots of mold and mildew and producers had to be very vigilant to produce
    a good wine. I've had really mixed results with the wines from that
    vintage. It sounds as if Gouges picked before the rains, producing a
    lighter body but clean wine.

    Mark Lipton
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  • From dalewilli...@gmail.com@dalewilliamsmidrun@gmail.com to alt.food.wine on Wed Oct 18 13:19:24 2023
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    On Wednesday, October 18, 2023 at 12:12:56rC>PM UTC-4, Mark Lipton wrote:
    On 10/17/23 12:59 PM, Graham wrote:
    I opened the 2008 Gouges "Les Chaignots" to serve with pork tenderloin (NYT recipe).
    Far from being the usual big wines that Gouges produces, this was surprisingly light and delicate. Faint cherry and raspberry on the
    nose as well as the palate. A bit of a disappointment but B/B+ on the DaleScale.
    As you may know, '08 was a really difficult vintage in the Cote d'Or.
    Lots of mold and mildew and producers had to be very vigilant to produce
    a good wine. I've had really mixed results with the wines from that
    vintage. It sounds as if Gouges picked before the rains, producing a
    lighter body but clean wine.

    Mark Lipton
    Good points. I'll also note the new (4th?) generation took over in 2007, and wines are generally a bit less structured than in past (though certainly still more structured than most)
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  • From Graham@g.stereo@shaw.ca to alt.food.wine on Wed Oct 18 15:43:54 2023
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    On 2023-10-18 2:19 p.m., dalewilli...@gmail.com wrote:
    On Wednesday, October 18, 2023 at 12:12:56rC>PM UTC-4, Mark Lipton wrote:
    On 10/17/23 12:59 PM, Graham wrote:
    I opened the 2008 Gouges "Les Chaignots" to serve with pork tenderloin
    (NYT recipe).
    Far from being the usual big wines that Gouges produces, this was
    surprisingly light and delicate. Faint cherry and raspberry on the
    nose as well as the palate. A bit of a disappointment but B/B+ on the
    DaleScale.
    As you may know, '08 was a really difficult vintage in the Cote d'Or.
    Lots of mold and mildew and producers had to be very vigilant to produce
    a good wine. I've had really mixed results with the wines from that
    vintage. It sounds as if Gouges picked before the rains, producing a
    lighter body but clean wine.

    Mark Lipton
    Good points. I'll also note the new (4th?) generation took over in 2007, and wines are generally a bit less structured than in past (though certainly still more structured than most)

    Mark & Dale
    Many thanks for your thoughts. I have very little Burgundy left, just
    2011 and 2012 Gouges (Vaucrains) and a 2014 Mugnier (Marechale). Over
    the years I have concentrated on Bordeaux and am gradually reducing
    my holdings of those. At my age, it is pointless buying wines to lay
    down and I think Dale would consider my drinking some of my older
    clarets as infanticide:-)
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  • From Mark Lipton@notpil@eudrup.ude to alt.food.wine on Thu Oct 19 12:12:32 2023
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    On 10/18/23 5:43 PM, Graham wrote:

    Mark & Dale
    Many thanks for your thoughts. I have very little Burgundy left, just
    2011 and 2012 Gouges (Vaucrains) and a 2014 Mugnier (Marechale). Over
    the years I have concentrated on Bordeaux and am gradually reducing
    my holdings of those. At my age, it is pointless buying wines to lay
    down and I think Dale would consider my drinking some of my older
    clarets as infanticide:-)

    Graham,
    I certainly sympathize. At age 64, I am buying very few vins de
    garde these days as I have a cellar full of wines that will need 15-20
    more years to reach maturity and, as much as I love my son, I don't
    intend to leave a full cellar as part of my estate ;-)

    My trends are a mirror-image of your own. Our supply of Bordeaux has
    dwindled to next to nothing. We just don't drink many these days, and
    the stylistic and climatic shift in the region as well as skyrocketing
    prices have also led to a diminution of our claret purchases.
    Meanwhile, our supply of Pinot Noir from Burgundy and other regions has continued to grow. We now have Pinot Noirs from there, the Jura,
    Germany, Oregon and New Zealand. Pinot Noir, Gamay and the lighter expressions of Nebbiolo now fit our food preferences better (not to
    mention white wines and ros|-s).

    As they say, horses for courses ;-)

    Mark Lipton
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