• TN: Rhones, PN, Gamay, Melon on a rainy weekend

    From dalewilli...@gmail.com@dalewilliamsmidrun@gmail.com to alt.food.wine on Sat Sep 30 12:51:21 2023
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    With oysters 2021 Pepiere "Gras Moutons" Muscadet. Pear and white flowers, bright acids, more fruit driven than a Briords but still a good mineral/oystershell finish. Could age but tasty right now. B+
    Chicken thighs with zucchini and cherry tomatoes, with the 1996 Dehlinger rCLOctagon VineyardrCY Pinot Noir. Listed as 14.5% but tastes hotter, decaying black plum with a cola accent. C+
    Teriyaki salmon, collards in a coconut milk sauce (told Betsy rCLdo againrCY), haiga rice with furikake and nori
    2021 Chanrion Cote de Brouilly
    Another tasty bright 2021 Beaujolais, Black and red cherries, smoke, a little cocoa. B+
    Up to Croton for a tasting. Theme was N. Rhone, John had a nice spread of cheese and charcuterie and some bubbles waiting
    NV Vix-Bara Blanc de Blancs Champagne
    New producer to me, but John says it is made by Grongnet, whose wines I enjoy. Snappy green apple fruit, almond/hazelnit, a little oak. I like more than some others. B+/B
    NV (2005) Charles Heidsieck Special Edition Brut Rose.
    Bottled 2006, disgorged 2019.
    Complex, red fruit with rye bread and citrus zest, excellent value, Dan says he loves it because itrCOs rCLwiney.rCY B+
    1999 Allemand Chaillot Cornas
    Sweet blackberry, hint of feral/animal, black olives. Lovely and complex. B+/A- 1999 Texier Hermitage
    Red fruits, bacon/smoked meats, violets. Balanced, long, lovely, classy. A- 1999 Delas rCLLes BessardsrCY Hermitage
    Some people liked more than I did, a little funky and oxidative, thererCOs a soy note under the black fruits. Unsure if representative bottle. B-
    DanrCOs blind bottles. I whiffed, said Cornas, once we knew Hermitage my vintage guesses were 1990 and 1996 (wrong wine for the 1990). We made it to Chapoutier by oak notes, but I think this is restrained compared to recent Chapoutier (and rCLbiggerrCY bottlings)
    DanrCOs Left Bottle- tight, opens in glass, a dark fruit with some nice smoke notes, but a little soft and tired. 1989 Chapoutier rCLSizerannerCYHermitage B/B-
    DanrCOs Right Bottle- black fruits and black pepper, an almost Bordeaux-like pencil shaving note, drinking well. 1990 Chapoutier rCLSizerannerCYHermitage B+
    About here John served a great beef stew.
    1998 Ogier Cote-Rotie
    Black and blue berries, some olive and meat, lovely nose and nice flavors but on palate a bit caught up in its structure, hopefully will blossom a bit. B/B+
    1991 Ogier Cote-Rotie
    Lovely complex nose, bacon fat and pepper, balanced mouthfeel, long. A-
    1985 Guigal Hermitage
    Porty, roasted notes, clipped finish, not fun. C+
    1970 Chapoutier rCLSizerannerCYHermitage
    Snappy berries, green leaves, white pepper. Holding well, delicious. B+/A-
    John had a backup for the rCy70, not needed, but he poured blind as replacement for the 85 Guigal. He said Rhone, we were puzzled till we realized he didnrCOt say Northern. Once we were in CdP still took while to get vintage, and he had to tell us producer. Raspberry, garrigue, coffee, bacon, Divided group, I liked. 1981 Vieux Telegraph Chateauneuf-du-Pape B+/B
    John was blinding group with a Bdx when I left, sorry to miss 70 Chasse Spleen. About 5 inches of rain Fri, stressful but sump pump prevailed (others were not so lucky, lots of flooding) Dinner was black cod in miso, umeboshi rice balls, and ohitashi spinach.
    1993 Michel Gaunoux Beaune
    rCy93 acids, cranberry and raspberry, earth, tasty but rather straightforward with complexity IrCOd hope with age. B/B-
    Grade disclaimer: I'm a very easy grader, basically A is an excellent wine, B a good wine, C drinkable. Anything below C means I wouldn't drink at a party where it was only choice. Furthermore, I offer no promises of objectivity, accuracy, and certainly not of consistency.
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  • From Mark Lipton@notpil@eudrup.ude to alt.food.wine on Mon Oct 2 09:57:23 2023
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    On 9/30/23 3:51 PM, dalewilli...@gmail.com wrote:

    Chicken thighs with zucchini and cherry tomatoes, with the 1996 Dehlinger rCLOctagon VineyardrCY Pinot Noir. Listed as 14.5% but tastes hotter, decaying black plum with a cola accent. C+

    Sigh. A Pinot Noir from Tom Dehlinger (78? 79?) set me on the path of
    wine appreciation. Haven't had one in 25+ years, though.


    Teriyaki salmon, collards in a coconut milk sauce (told Betsy rCLdo againrCY), haiga rice with furikake and nori
    2021 Chanrion Cote de Brouilly
    Another tasty bright 2021 Beaujolais, Black and red cherries, smoke, a little cocoa. B+

    How were the tannins on this? I've got some in the cellar but am leery
    of the backwardness of Cote de Brouilly.


    Up to Croton for a tasting. Theme was N. Rhone, John had a nice spread of cheese and charcuterie and some bubbles waiting
    <SNIP> What a great tasting! You lucky dog.

    Mark Lipton
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  • From dalewilli...@gmail.com@dalewilliamsmidrun@gmail.com to alt.food.wine on Mon Oct 2 13:02:01 2023
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    On Monday, October 2, 2023 at 9:57:26rC>AM UTC-4, Mark Lipton wrote:
    On 9/30/23 3:51 PM, dalewilli...@gmail.com wrote:
    2021 Chanrion Cote de Brouilly
    Another tasty bright 2021 Beaujolais, Black and red cherries, smoke, a little cocoa. B+
    How were the tannins on this? I've got some in the cellar but am leery
    of the backwardness of Cote de Brouilly.
    Some tannin, but at moment I found pretty approachable, but I'd expect that there's a shutdown acoming!
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