• TN: Sociando, Suenen, Bea, Bize, Piuze, Hatzidakis, Trimbach

    From dalewilli...@gmail.com@dalewilliamsmidrun@gmail.com to alt.food.wine on Mon Mar 27 12:25:58 2023
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    Chicken thighs with chickpeas and spinach
    2008 Simon Bize rCLAux VergelessesrCY Savigny-les-Beaune 1er
    This was pretty tight at first , but after an hour or so of air it really showed well. Red and black raspberries, citrus zest, and a touch of coffee. Supple tannins, juicy acids, and a long minerally finish. Young, fresh, zesty and delicious. A-
    Tuna steaks with a tomato/olive/caper sauce, quinoa/rice, broccoli rabe
    1998 Paolo Bea Montefalco Rosso
    More floral than fruity, somewhat lifted nose, resolved tannin, some oxidative notes. Not dead but maybe passing its due date. B-
    No wine Friday with Asian grilled pork tenderloin, brown rice with furikake, bok choy
    Roasted branzino with ladolemono sauce, broccoli with mustard and vinegar, quinoa
    2018 Hatzidakis Skitali Assyrtiko (Santorini) has citrus, green apple, and the slightest hint of new mown hay. Crisp, saline meet oystershell finish. B+/A-
    Sunday had some friends over, along with onerCOs sister who was visiting from France and Cape Verde. We had a grand old time.
    Crudite (basil and chipotle/bean dips)
    NV Suenen C+C Extra Brut Blanc de Blancs Champagne (2017 base, 6/20 disgorgement).
    Snappy, fresh and bright, with crisp pear fruit , herbs, and warm bread. Long chalky finish. B+
    Oysters with mignonette or lemon
    2021 Piuze Terroir de Fye Chablis
    Good with oysters, riper more forward styled, apples and white flowers, chalk on finish. B
    Pawpaw/rum ham (from Smoking goose), asparagus, and melon on bed of arugula (Hilary has a pawpaw tree and is a big advocate, so I felt I needed to serve to her)
    2008 Trimbach Cuvee Frederic Emile Riesling
    Was unsure how this would be drinking, but blossomed with air, lovely in a bone dry wet rock kind of style. Crisp minerality, some petrol topnotes, not fruit driven but thererCOs some lemon and dry peach. Fun. A-/B+
    Flannery ribeyes, turnip/parsley root gratin, Swiss Chard
    1986 Sociando-Mallet
    Some of that rCy86 burliness, cassis and smoked meats, cigarbox/cedar. Loads of life left. B+
    We finished with cheese- Isle of Mull, Stilton, and a perfectly ripe Reblochon Wanda had brought from France, and a chocolate cake. Fun fun night.
    Grade disclaimer: I'm a very easy grader, basically A is an excellent wine, B a good wine, C drinkable. Anything below C means I wouldn't drink at a party where it was only choice. Furthermore, I offer no promises of objectivity, accuracy, and certainly not of consistency.
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  • From Mark Lipton@notpil@eudrup.ude to alt.food.wine on Tue Mar 28 09:42:01 2023
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    On 3/27/23 3:25 PM, dalewilli...@gmail.com wrote:
    Chicken thighs with chickpeas and spinach
    2008 Simon Bize rCLAux VergelessesrCY Savigny-les-Beaune 1er
    This was pretty tight at first , but after an hour or so of air it really showed well. Red and black raspberries, citrus zest, and a touch of coffee. Supple tannins, juicy acids, and a long minerally finish. Young, fresh, zesty and delicious. A-

    Nice! What's your experience been with '08s? I still have a few but
    people including Sasha have reported very mixed results with the
    vintage. FWIW, I just recently opened a '10 Pavelot SlB village wine
    that was positively singing.



    Oysters with mignonette or lemon
    2021 Piuze Terroir de Fye Chablis
    Good with oysters, riper more forward styled, apples and white flowers, chalk on finish. B

    I wonder how many more "classic" vintages we'll see out of Chablis.
    Unlike e.g. Muscadet, they don't get the cooling maritime climate of the Atlantic.


    Pawpaw/rum ham (from Smoking goose), asparagus, and melon on bed of arugula (Hilary has a pawpaw tree and is a big advocate, so I felt I needed to serve to her)
    2008 Trimbach Cuvee Frederic Emile Riesling
    Was unsure how this would be drinking, but blossomed with air, lovely in a bone dry wet rock kind of style. Crisp minerality, some petrol topnotes, not fruit driven but thererCOs some lemon and dry peach. Fun. A-/B+

    LOL! Jean and I have tried a few pawpaw fruits since they grow wild
    around here. Jean was distinctly not a fan, mostly because of the
    texture, though the flavors of overripe banana were only so appealing, too.

    As always, thanks for the interesting notes,
    Mark Lipton
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  • From dalewilli...@gmail.com@dalewilliamsmidrun@gmail.com to alt.food.wine on Tue Mar 28 12:13:19 2023
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    On Tuesday, March 28, 2023 at 9:42:04rC>AM UTC-4, Mark Lipton wrote:
    On 3/27/23 3:25 PM, dalewilli@gmail.com wrote:

    Nice! What's your experience been with '08s? I still have a few but
    people including Sasha have reported very mixed results with the
    vintage. FWIW, I just recently opened a '10 Pavelot SlB village wine
    that was positively singing.
    I haven't had a lot of closed 08s, but most of the (few) I've opened were village wines.


    2021 Piuze Terroir de Fye Chablis
    Good with oysters, riper more forward styled, apples and white flowers, chalk on finish. B
    I wonder how many more "classic" vintages we'll see out of Chablis.
    Unlike e.g. Muscadet, they don't get the cooling maritime climate of the Atlantic.
    I don't think 2021 (or 2021) was super warm by historical standards (unlike say 2018). But crops small both vintages.
    But in general I agree (of course that applies to most of Europe, I mean most of N. Hemisphere, no I mean.....
    Pawpaw/rum ham (from Smoking goose),
    LOL! Jean and I have tried a few pawpaw fruits since they grow wild
    around here. Jean was distinctly not a fan, mostly because of the
    texture, though the flavors of overripe banana were only so appealing, too.

    I think my friend primarily makes ice cream! She has given us a few, I find more like mango with a hint of banana (of course, apparently different cultivars are different).
    But the ham was good! Do you know Smoking Goose? Indianapolis isn't THAT far from you correct?
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  • From Mark Lipton@notpil@eudrup.ude to alt.food.wine on Tue Mar 28 15:36:03 2023
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    On 3/28/23 3:13 PM, dalewilli...@gmail.com wrote:

    I think my friend primarily makes ice cream! She has given us a few, I find more like mango with a hint of banana (of course, apparently different cultivars are different).
    But the ham was good! Do you know Smoking Goose? Indianapolis isn't THAT far from you correct?

    Yup, correct. I've seen a few things from Smoking Goose, but haven't
    made a search for them. Their ham is good, I take it? We mostly get
    hams from VA, funny enough. Maple Leaf farms is North of us and is a
    good source of ducks, and Capriole is S of Indy and makes some very
    appealing goat cheeses, my favorite of which is the O'Banon, a Banon
    knockoff using a chestnut leaf from one of the last remaining American Chestnut trees, which coincidentally grows on their property (punnily,
    Frank O'Bannon was a beloved former governor of IN).

    Mark Lipton



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  • From dalewilli...@gmail.com@dalewilliamsmidrun@gmail.com to alt.food.wine on Fri Mar 31 11:15:42 2023
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    On Tuesday, March 28, 2023 at 3:36:06rC>PM UTC-4, Mark Lipton wrote:
    On 3/28/23 3:13 PM, dalewilli...@gmail.com wrote:

    I think my friend primarily makes ice cream! She has given us a few, I find more like mango with a hint of banana (of course, apparently different cultivars are different).
    But the ham was good! Do you know Smoking Goose? Indianapolis isn't THAT far from you correct?
    Yup, correct. I've seen a few things from Smoking Goose, but haven't
    made a search for them. Their ham is good, I take it? We mostly get
    hams from VA, funny enough. Maple Leaf farms is North of us and is a
    good source of ducks, and Capriole is S of Indy and makes some very appealing goat cheeses, my favorite of which is the O'Banon, a Banon knockoff using a chestnut leaf from one of the last remaining American Chestnut trees, which coincidentally grows on their property (punnily,
    Frank O'Bannon was a beloved former governor of IN).

    I believe I've had Capriole cheeses.
    This wasn't a whole ham, but a fun experiment (part of a sampler). What I really love from Smoking Goose is the salumi/charcuterie- especially Gentle Giant, bresaola, and saucisson rouge.
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