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. In-N-Out Burger
A West Coast icon, In-N-Out has earned its legendary status by sticking to what it does best: using fresh, simple ingredients for a menu that has remained consistent since 1948. Fans rave about the friendly service, and the nostalgic drive-thru experience. Whether yourCOre a first-timer or a lifelong fan, thererCOs something undeniably satisfying about pulling up to an In-N-Out and ordering a Double-Double and Animal Style french fries (topped with their secret sauce, grilled onions, and cheese).
With more than 119,000 Yelp reviews across more than 400 locations, the brand receives special praise for its not-so-secret rCLsecret menu.rCY Reviewers also highlight customizable options like Protein Style (wrapped in lettuce) or 3x3s (three patties, three slices of cheese).
2. The Habit Burger Grill
Habit Burger has built a loyal fanbase with its smoky, flavorful patties, chargrilled to perfection over an open flame, and a commitment to fresh ingredients. Founded in Santa Barbara, California, this brand has quickly expanded across the western and eastern U.S. The vibe is laid-back but polished, and the food consistently delivers on quality and taste.
The signature Charburger is a standout, layered with caramelized onions, lettuce, tomato, pickles, and mayo on a toasted bun. The menu also features fresh salads, grilled sandwiches and sides like tempura green beans (which have their own fan following). Whether yourCOre a meat lover or looking for a veggie-friendly option, Habit offers something for everyone.
3. Shake Shack
What began as a humble hot dog cart in New York CityrCOs Madison Square Park has grown into a nationwide sensationrCoand for good reason. Shake Shack brings gourmet flair to the fast-casual burger world, with a focus on high-quality ingredients and chef-driven recipes.
Shake Shack is the top-ranked burger brand in more states than any other brand, claiming the #1 spot in 21 states and Washington, D.C.rCoa testament to its widespread appeal. Its original New York location boasts more than 5,800 reviews, and its Theatre District spot earned a place on YelprCOs 2023 list of Top 100 Burgers in America.
The ShackBurger is the star of the show, with an Angus beef patty, American cheese, lettuce, tomato, and secret rCLShack SaucerCY on a soft potato bun. But thererCOs more to love: crinkle-cut fries that are always crispy, creamy frozen custard in rotating seasonal flavors, and even a portobello rCLrCOShroom BurgerrCY option for veggie lovers. With locations across the country and around the globe, Shake Shack has become a go-to for burger lovers who want a little extra flair from their fast food.
4. CulverrCOs
A Midwest favorite now found in 26 states, CulverrCOs is beloved by fans for its ButterBurgers and rich frozen custard. The Wisconsin-born brand has built a reputation for warm hospitality and comfort food done right.
The ButterBurger gets its name from the lightly buttered, toasted bun,
which adds a complementary texture to the fresh beef patty. You can
customize it with cheese, bacon, mushrooms, and morerCoor get a classic
with pickles and onions. CulverrCOs also keeps things interesting with innovative limited-time menu offerings like the Colby Jack Pub Burger,
which is served on a seasoning-topped Everything bun.
6. FreddyrCOs Frozen Custard & Steakburgers
FreddyrCOs brings retro charm and classic flavor to the burger scene. With its red-and-white diner aesthetic and friendly service, this brand hits the sweet spot between nostalgic comfort and quality fast-casual dining.
The Steakburgers are thin and crispy around the edges, cooked on a flat-top grill for maximum flavor. Fans love the FreddyrCOs Original Double, but the real magic is in the detailsrColike the signature fry sauce and perfectly seasoned shoestring fries.
7. Five Guys Burgers & Fries
From the moment you walk into Five Guys and scoop up a handful of free peanuts, you know yourCOre in for a no-nonsense, flavor-packed experience. The open kitchen lets you watch your burger being made from scratch, and the smell of sizzling beef and fries is enough to make anyone hungry.
At Five Guys, customization is king. Diners can choose from a wide
variety of free toppingsrCogrilled mushrooms, jalapenos, extra pickles,
you name it. The fries are cut in-house and cooked in peanut oil. The
result is messy, indulgent, and totally worth it.
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On Wed, 12 Aug 2026 11:06:06 -0600, cranberry transformer
<ct@in.valid> wrote:

https://www.yelp.com/article/yelps-top-25-burger-chains-in-the-us

. In-N-Out Burger

A West Coast icon, In-N-Out has earned its legendary status by
sticking to what it does best: using fresh, simple ingredients for a
menu that has remained consistent since 1948. Fans rave about the
friendly service, and the nostalgic drive-thru experience. Whether
youAre a first-timer or a lifelong fan, thereAs something undeniably >satisfying about pulling up to an In-N-Out and ordering a
Double-Double and Animal Style french fries (topped with their secret
sauce, grilled onions, and cheese).

With more than 119,000 Yelp reviews across more than 400
locations, the brand receives special praise for its not-so-secret
osecret menu.o Reviewers also highlight customizable options like
Protein Style (wrapped in lettuce) or 3x3s (three patties, three
slices of cheese).

I can understand why In-N-Out is number one. Great food.
I get the double double, protein style every time. Two patties
and two slices of cheese.

2. The Habit Burger Grill

Habit Burger has built a loyal fanbase with its smoky, flavorful
patties, chargrilled to perfection over an open flame, and a
commitment to fresh ingredients. Founded in Santa Barbara, California,
this brand has quickly expanded across the western and eastern U.S.
The vibe is laid-back but polished, and the food consistently delivers
on quality and taste.

The signature Charburger is a standout, layered with caramelized
onions, lettuce, tomato, pickles, and mayo on a toasted bun. The menu
also features fresh salads, grilled sandwiches and sides like tempura
green beans (which have their own fan following). Whether youAre a
meat lover or looking for a veggie-friendly option, Habit offers
something for everyone.

Another good one. If you like your burgers cooked over a flame,
you will probably like Habit Grill.

[Snip as I have no comment.]

7. Five Guys Burgers & Fries

From the moment you walk into Five Guys and scoop up a handful
of free peanuts, you know youAre in for a no-nonsense, flavor-packed >experience. The open kitchen lets you watch your burger being made
from scratch, and the smell of sizzling beef and fries is enough to
make anyone hungry.

At Five Guys, customization is king. Diners can choose from a wide
variety of free toppingsugrilled mushrooms, jalapenos, extra pickles,
you name it. The fries are cut in-house and cooked in peanut oil. The
result is messy, indulgent, and totally worth it.

It's fairly expensive. But pretty good. I don't eat the fries,
but I'm told they are VERY good.
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I think, therefore I yam.
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On 8/12/2026 12:06 PM, cranberry transformer wrote:

https://www.yelp.com/article/yelps-top-25-burger-chains-in-the-us

. In-N-Out Burger

A West Coast icon, In-N-Out has earned its legendary status by sticking to what it does best: using fresh, simple ingredients for a menu that has remained consistent since 1948. Fans rave about the friendly service, and the nostalgic drive-thru experience. Whether yourCOre a first-timer or a lifelong fan, thererCOs something undeniably satisfying about pulling up to an In-N-Out and ordering a Double-Double and Animal Style french fries (topped with their secret sauce, grilled onions, and cheese).

Repulsive sauce. Animal Style must mean good for slopping the pigs.

I recently saw that Steak 'n Shake has degraded their Steakburgers by switching to grass fed beef. In a few hours, I'll be buying grass fed
steaks, but it's because they are at a great price. They are inferior in flavor to corn finished, and there's no way they are going to look like
the picture.
https://photos.app.goo.gl/X7dZSwYCCpKjLzgc8

I like the fact that SnS fries the fries in beef fat. I don't believe
the stupidity about it being more healthful. They are just more
flavorful. Also, grass fed beef *is* slightly more healthful, but
inferior in flavor. Notice that they haven't gotten rid of the
*government cheese*. I'm cool with process cheese on a McDouble, but not
on a Steakburger--or on a pizza.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Provel_cheese
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--Bryan https://www.instagram.com/bryangsimmons/

For your safety and protection, this sig. has been thoroughly
tested on laboratory animals.

"Most of the food described here is nauseating.
We're just too courteous to say so."
-- Cindy Hamilton
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On Thu, 13 Aug 2026 06:44:39 -0500
Bryan Simmons <bryangsimmons@gmail.com> wrote:

On 8/12/2026 12:06 PM, cranberry transformer wrote:

https://www.yelp.com/article/yelps-top-25-burger-chains-in-the-us

. In-N-Out Burger

A West Coast icon, In-N-Out has earned its legendary status by
sticking to what it does best: using fresh, simple ingredients for
a menu that has remained consistent since 1948. Fans rave about the friendly service, and the nostalgic drive-thru experience. Whether
yourCOre a first-timer or a lifelong fan, thererCOs something
undeniably satisfying about pulling up to an In-N-Out and ordering
a Double-Double and Animal Style french fries (topped with their
secret sauce, grilled onions, and cheese).

Repulsive sauce. Animal Style must mean good for slopping the pigs.

Totally agree on the souse - like any mayo derivative, needless fat.

I recently saw that Steak 'n Shake has degraded their Steakburgers by switching to grass fed beef. In a few hours, I'll be buying grass fed steaks, but it's because they are at a great price. They are inferior
in flavor to corn finished, and there's no way they are going to look
like the picture.
https://photos.app.goo.gl/X7dZSwYCCpKjLzgc8

True dat, for the same fat content but a sweeter meat try Bison.

I know - never on sale.

I like the fact that SnS fries the fries in beef fat. I don't believe
the stupidity about it being more healthful. They are just more
flavorful. Also, grass fed beef *is* slightly more healthful, but
inferior in flavor. Notice that they haven't gotten rid of the
*government cheese*. I'm cool with process cheese on a McDouble, but
not on a Steakburger--or on a pizza. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Provel_cheese

I suspect Provel and Gruyere might be copacetic.
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On Thu, 13 Aug 2026 06:44:39 -0500, Bryan Simmons
<bryangsimmons@gmail.com> wrote:

On 8/12/2026 12:06 PM, cranberry transformer wrote:

https://www.yelp.com/article/yelps-top-25-burger-chains-in-the-us


. In-N-Out Burger

A West Coast icon, In-N-Out has earned its legendary status by sticking to what it does best: using fresh, simple ingredients for a menu that has remained consistent since 1948. Fans rave about the friendly service, and the nostalgic drive-thru experience. Whether youAre a first-timer or a lifelong fan, thereAs something undeniably satisfying about pulling up to an In-N-Out and ordering a Double-Double and Animal Style french fries (topped with their secret sauce, grilled onions, and cheese).

Repulsive sauce. Animal Style must mean good for slopping the pigs.

All of us are happy it repulses you, since it makes the line much
shorter.

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On Thu, 13 Aug 2026 16:36:04 GMT
ItsJoanNotJoAnn@webtv.net <user4742@newsgrouper.org.invalid> wrote:

Bryan Simmons <bryangsimmons@gmail.com> posted:

On 8/12/2026 12:06 PM, cranberry transformer wrote:

https://www.yelp.com/article/yelps-top-25-burger-chains-in-the-us

. In-N-Out Burger

A West Coast icon, In-N-Out has earned its legendary status by
sticking to what it does best: using fresh, simple ingredients
for a menu that has remained consistent since 1948. Fans rave
about the friendly service, and the nostalgic drive-thru
experience. Whether yourCOre a first-timer or a lifelong fan,
thererCOs something undeniably satisfying about pulling up to an
In-N-Out and ordering a Double-Double and Animal Style french
fries (topped with their secret sauce, grilled onions, and
cheese).

Repulsive sauce. Animal Style must mean good for slopping the pigs.

An In-N-Out burger joint recently, as in the past few weeks, has
opened on my side of town, but I have as yet to give them try. I
perused their menu and there seems to be several choices if the
animal style doesn't tickle your fancy.

(Cross posted group snipped.)

~

(Why? In and Out is by defintion "fast-food".)
Btw - In & Out fries somewhat resemble the old style Wendy's square cut
fries from decades past. The taste is close too. Accurate fresh tater,
not batter dipped faux flavoed ones. https://www.reddit.com/r/Asmongold/comments/n42t3d/he_asked_us_to_compare_wendys_old_fries_and_new/?rdt=54850
" The old WendyrCOs fries were unique and a signature item. They were big potatoey and delicious.
Their new fries are forgettable and divisive. If you donrCOt like skin on
your fries, you hate them. If you love skin on your fries, theyrCOre
still just ok." https://www.cheapism.com/wp-content/uploads/2025/02/Wendys-photos.jpg
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On Thu, 13 Aug 2026 12:14:29 -0700
KlausSchadenfreude <klaus.schadenfreudeREMOVE@gmail.com> wrote:

On Thu, 13 Aug 2026 06:44:39 -0500, Bryan Simmons
<bryangsimmons@gmail.com> wrote:

On 8/12/2026 12:06 PM, cranberry transformer wrote:

https://www.yelp.com/article/yelps-top-25-burger-chains-in-the-us


. In-N-Out Burger

A West Coast icon, In-N-Out has earned its legendary status by
sticking to what it does best: using fresh, simple ingredients for
a menu that has remained consistent since 1948. Fans rave about
the friendly service, and the nostalgic drive-thru experience.
Whether yourCOre a first-timer or a lifelong fan, thererCOs something
undeniably satisfying about pulling up to an In-N-Out and ordering
a Double-Double and Animal Style french fries (topped with their
secret sauce, grilled onions, and cheese).

Repulsive sauce. Animal Style must mean good for slopping the pigs.

All of us are happy it repulses you, since it makes the line much
shorter.

Meanwhile over at the White Castle...
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On 8/13/2026 4:49 PM, cranberry transformer wrote:

On Thu, 13 Aug 2026 12:14:29 -0700
KlausSchadenfreude <klaus.schadenfreudeREMOVE@gmail.com> wrote:

On Thu, 13 Aug 2026 06:44:39 -0500, Bryan Simmons
<bryangsimmons@gmail.com> wrote:

On 8/12/2026 12:06 PM, cranberry transformer wrote:

https://www.yelp.com/article/yelps-top-25-burger-chains-in-the-us


. In-N-Out Burger

A West Coast icon, In-N-Out has earned its legendary status by
sticking to what it does best: using fresh, simple ingredients for
a menu that has remained consistent since 1948. Fans rave about
the friendly service, and the nostalgic drive-thru experience.
Whether yourCOre a first-timer or a lifelong fan, thererCOs something
undeniably satisfying about pulling up to an In-N-Out and ordering
a Double-Double and Animal Style french fries (topped with their
secret sauce, grilled onions, and cheese).

Repulsive sauce. Animal Style must mean good for slopping the pigs.

All of us are happy it repulses you, since it makes the line much
shorter.

Meanwhile over at the White Castle...

White Castle customers are dying off faster than they are being
replaced. It's a death spiral. Harold and Kumar stopped the bleeding for
a few years, but it was only temporary.
--
--Bryan https://www.instagram.com/bryangsimmons/

For your safety and protection, this sig. has been thoroughly
tested on laboratory animals.

"Most of the food described here is nauseating.
We're just too courteous to say so."
-- Cindy Hamilton
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On Thu, 13 Aug 2026 06:44:39 -0500, Bryan Simmons
<bryangsimmons@gmail.com> wrote:

On 8/12/2026 12:06 PM, cranberry transformer wrote:

https://www.yelp.com/article/yelps-top-25-burger-chains-in-the-us


. In-N-Out Burger

A West Coast icon, In-N-Out has earned its legendary status by sticking to what it does best: using fresh, simple ingredients for a menu that has remained consistent since 1948. Fans rave about the friendly service, and the nostalgic drive-thru experience. Whether youAre a first-timer or a lifelong fan, thereAs something undeniably satisfying about pulling up to an In-N-Out and ordering a Double-Double and Animal Style french fries (topped with their secret sauce, grilled onions, and cheese).

Repulsive sauce. Animal Style must mean good for slopping the pigs.

Your bitterness means we won't have to wait in line behind you.
I, for one, am pleased.

[...]
--
I never knew that scuba was an acronym, for Self-Contained Underwater
Breathing Apparatus.

Just like tuba for Terrible Underwater Breathing Apparatus.
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On Thu, 13 Aug 2026 12:14:29 -0700, KlausSchadenfreude <klaus.schadenfreudeREMOVE@gmail.com> wrote:

On Thu, 13 Aug 2026 06:44:39 -0500, Bryan Simmons
<bryangsimmons@gmail.com> wrote:

On 8/12/2026 12:06 PM, cranberry transformer wrote:

https://www.yelp.com/article/yelps-top-25-burger-chains-in-the-us


. In-N-Out Burger

A West Coast icon, In-N-Out has earned its legendary status by sticking to what it does best: using fresh, simple ingredients for a menu that has remained consistent since 1948. Fans rave about the friendly service, and the nostalgic drive-thru experience. Whether youAre a first-timer or a lifelong fan, thereAs something undeniably satisfying about pulling up to an In-N-Out and ordering a Double-Double and Animal Style french fries (topped with their secret sauce, grilled onions, and cheese).

Repulsive sauce. Animal Style must mean good for slopping the pigs.

All of us are happy it repulses you, since it makes the line much
shorter.

Well, one person shorter. Still a positive, of course.
--
All hail Roko's Basilisk!
It's too late to save yourself.
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On Fri, 14 Aug 2026 00:57:28 -0700
KenitoBenito <Kenito@Benito.too> wrote:

On Thu, 13 Aug 2026 12:14:29 -0700, KlausSchadenfreude <klaus.schadenfreudeREMOVE@gmail.com> wrote:

On Thu, 13 Aug 2026 06:44:39 -0500, Bryan Simmons
<bryangsimmons@gmail.com> wrote:

On 8/12/2026 12:06 PM, cranberry transformer wrote:

https://www.yelp.com/article/yelps-top-25-burger-chains-in-the-us


. In-N-Out Burger

A West Coast icon, In-N-Out has earned its legendary status by
sticking to what it does best: using fresh, simple ingredients
for a menu that has remained consistent since 1948. Fans rave
about the friendly service, and the nostalgic drive-thru
experience. Whether yourCOre a first-timer or a lifelong fan,
thererCOs something undeniably satisfying about pulling up to an
In-N-Out and ordering a Double-Double and Animal Style french
fries (topped with their secret sauce, grilled onions, and
cheese).

Repulsive sauce. Animal Style must mean good for slopping the pigs.

All of us are happy it repulses you, since it makes the line much
shorter.

Well, one person shorter. Still a positive, of course.

Only the condiment switches, the line count would remain the same.
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On Thu, 13 Aug 2026 18:59:48 -0500
Bryan Simmons <bryangsimmons@gmail.com> wrote:

On 8/13/2026 4:49 PM, cranberry transformer wrote:

On Thu, 13 Aug 2026 12:14:29 -0700
KlausSchadenfreude <klaus.schadenfreudeREMOVE@gmail.com> wrote:

On Thu, 13 Aug 2026 06:44:39 -0500, Bryan Simmons
<bryangsimmons@gmail.com> wrote:

On 8/12/2026 12:06 PM, cranberry transformer wrote:

https://www.yelp.com/article/yelps-top-25-burger-chains-in-the-us


. In-N-Out Burger

A West Coast icon, In-N-Out has earned its legendary status by
sticking to what it does best: using fresh, simple ingredients
for a menu that has remained consistent since 1948. Fans rave
about the friendly service, and the nostalgic drive-thru
experience. Whether yourCOre a first-timer or a lifelong fan,
thererCOs something undeniably satisfying about pulling up to an
In-N-Out and ordering a Double-Double and Animal Style french
fries (topped with their secret sauce, grilled onions, and
cheese).

Repulsive sauce. Animal Style must mean good for slopping the
pigs.

All of us are happy it repulses you, since it makes the line much
shorter.

Meanwhile over at the White Castle...

White Castle customers are dying off faster than they are being
replaced. It's a death spiral. Harold and Kumar stopped the bleeding
for a few years, but it was only temporary.

The Castle must NEVER fall!
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On Thu, 13 Aug 2026 18:59:48 -0500, Bryan Simmons
<bryangsimmons@gmail.com> wrote:

On 8/13/2026 4:49 PM, cranberry transformer wrote:

On Thu, 13 Aug 2026 12:14:29 -0700
KlausSchadenfreude <klaus.schadenfreudeREMOVE@gmail.com> wrote:

On Thu, 13 Aug 2026 06:44:39 -0500, Bryan Simmons
<bryangsimmons@gmail.com> wrote:

On 8/12/2026 12:06 PM, cranberry transformer wrote:

https://www.yelp.com/article/yelps-top-25-burger-chains-in-the-us


. In-N-Out Burger

A West Coast icon, In-N-Out has earned its legendary status by
sticking to what it does best: using fresh, simple ingredients for
a menu that has remained consistent since 1948. Fans rave about
the friendly service, and the nostalgic drive-thru experience.
Whether youAre a first-timer or a lifelong fan, thereAs something
undeniably satisfying about pulling up to an In-N-Out and ordering
a Double-Double and Animal Style french fries (topped with their
secret sauce, grilled onions, and cheese).

Repulsive sauce. Animal Style must mean good for slopping the pigs.

All of us are happy it repulses you, since it makes the line much
shorter.

Meanwhile over at the White Castle...

White Castle customers are dying off faster than they are being
replaced.

Wrong, as I suspect you usually are.

It's a death spiral.

'Fraid not, old timer.
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On Fri, 14 Aug 2026 15:39:32 -0700, KlausSchadenfreude <klaus.schadenfreudeREMOVE@gmail.com> wrote:

On Thu, 13 Aug 2026 18:59:48 -0500, Bryan Simmons
<bryangsimmons@gmail.com> wrote:

On 8/13/2026 4:49 PM, cranberry transformer wrote:

On Thu, 13 Aug 2026 12:14:29 -0700
KlausSchadenfreude <klaus.schadenfreudeREMOVE@gmail.com> wrote:

On Thu, 13 Aug 2026 06:44:39 -0500, Bryan Simmons
<bryangsimmons@gmail.com> wrote:

On 8/12/2026 12:06 PM, cranberry transformer wrote:

https://www.yelp.com/article/yelps-top-25-burger-chains-in-the-us


. In-N-Out Burger

A West Coast icon, In-N-Out has earned its legendary status by
sticking to what it does best: using fresh, simple ingredients for >>>>>> a menu that has remained consistent since 1948. Fans rave about
the friendly service, and the nostalgic drive-thru experience.
Whether youAre a first-timer or a lifelong fan, thereAs something
undeniably satisfying about pulling up to an In-N-Out and ordering >>>>>> a Double-Double and Animal Style french fries (topped with their
secret sauce, grilled onions, and cheese).

Repulsive sauce. Animal Style must mean good for slopping the pigs.

All of us are happy it repulses you, since it makes the line much
shorter.

Meanwhile over at the White Castle...

White Castle customers are dying off faster than they are being
replaced.

Wrong, as I suspect you usually are.

Bryan has proved he is not one to allow reality to interfere with
his claims. So long as he can express how bitter he is with life, he's
fine with it.

It's a death spiral.

'Fraid not, old timer.

There are locations that are closing, but this is due to increase
real estate values. It's more profitable to sell the land to
developers. There is nothing to suggest the number of customers is
declining.

https://www.thestreet.com/restaurants/white-castle-burger-chain-closes-restaurant

I find it amusing that one location is now a KFC. So long as
White Castle made money on the sale, I doubt anyone is worried.
--
With great reflexes comes great response ability.
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On Sat, 15 Aug 2026 08:47:02 -0700
KenitoBenito <Kenito@Benito.too> wrote:

On Fri, 14 Aug 2026 15:39:32 -0700, KlausSchadenfreude <klaus.schadenfreudeREMOVE@gmail.com> wrote:

On Thu, 13 Aug 2026 18:59:48 -0500, Bryan Simmons
<bryangsimmons@gmail.com> wrote:

On 8/13/2026 4:49 PM, cranberry transformer wrote:

On Thu, 13 Aug 2026 12:14:29 -0700
KlausSchadenfreude <klaus.schadenfreudeREMOVE@gmail.com> wrote:

On Thu, 13 Aug 2026 06:44:39 -0500, Bryan Simmons
<bryangsimmons@gmail.com> wrote:

On 8/12/2026 12:06 PM, cranberry transformer wrote:

https://www.yelp.com/article/yelps-top-25-burger-chains-in-the-us >>>>>>

. In-N-Out Burger

A West Coast icon, In-N-Out has earned its legendary status by
sticking to what it does best: using fresh, simple ingredients
for a menu that has remained consistent since 1948. Fans rave
about the friendly service, and the nostalgic drive-thru
experience. Whether yourCOre a first-timer or a lifelong fan,
thererCOs something undeniably satisfying about pulling up to an >>>>>> In-N-Out and ordering a Double-Double and Animal Style french
fries (topped with their secret sauce, grilled onions, and
cheese).

Repulsive sauce. Animal Style must mean good for slopping the
pigs.

All of us are happy it repulses you, since it makes the line much
shorter.

Meanwhile over at the White Castle...

White Castle customers are dying off faster than they are being >>replaced.

Wrong, as I suspect you usually are.

Bryan has proved he is not one to allow reality to interfere with
his claims. So long as he can express how bitter he is with life, he's
fine with it.

Yep.

It's a death spiral.

'Fraid not, old timer.

There are locations that are closing, but this is due to increase
real estate values. It's more profitable to sell the land to
developers. There is nothing to suggest the number of customers is
declining.

https://www.thestreet.com/restaurants/white-castle-burger-chain-closes-restaurant

I find it amusing that one location is now a KFC. So long as
White Castle made money on the sale, I doubt anyone is worried.

And making money they are, and more on the overnight hours.
They're stealing some of Waffle House's late hours customers is my
guess.
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On 8/15/2026 10:52 AM, cranberry transformer wrote:

On Fri, 14 Aug 2026 15:39:32 -0700
KlausSchadenfreude <klaus.schadenfreudeREMOVE@gmail.com> wrote:

On Thu, 13 Aug 2026 18:59:48 -0500, Bryan Simmons
<bryangsimmons@gmail.com> wrote:

On 8/13/2026 4:49 PM, cranberry transformer wrote:

On Thu, 13 Aug 2026 12:14:29 -0700
KlausSchadenfreude <klaus.schadenfreudeREMOVE@gmail.com> wrote:

On Thu, 13 Aug 2026 06:44:39 -0500, Bryan Simmons
<bryangsimmons@gmail.com> wrote:

On 8/12/2026 12:06 PM, cranberry transformer wrote:

https://www.yelp.com/article/yelps-top-25-burger-chains-in-the-us >>>>>>>

. In-N-Out Burger

A West Coast icon, In-N-Out has earned its legendary status by
sticking to what it does best: using fresh, simple ingredients
for a menu that has remained consistent since 1948. Fans rave
about the friendly service, and the nostalgic drive-thru
experience. Whether yourCOre a first-timer or a lifelong fan,
thererCOs something undeniably satisfying about pulling up to an >>>>>>> In-N-Out and ordering a Double-Double and Animal Style french
fries (topped with their secret sauce, grilled onions, and
cheese).

Repulsive sauce. Animal Style must mean good for slopping the
pigs.

All of us are happy it repulses you, since it makes the line much
shorter.

Meanwhile over at the White Castle...

White Castle customers are dying off faster than they are being
replaced.

Wrong, as I suspect you usually are.

Bryan ha sit in for boomers...

It's a death spiral.

'Fraid not, old timer.

Not even close:

https://whitecastle.com/about-us/press-releases/Night%20Castle
The Data Is In

In April, White Castle conducted a survey through a third-party online survey platform and found that 83% of respondents like to eat fast-food following a night out. In a separate survey of Cravers conducted a month later, 80% of respondents said that White Castle is the best fast-food brand for making late-night memories and is worth going the extra mile to satisfy their late-night cravings.

rCLThe survey results confirm that werCOre making the right decision to strengthen White CastlerCOs standing as the go-to after-hours scene for great food,rCY said Jamie Richardson, vice president at White Castle. rCLWe want to be the place where people go at night to satisfy their late-night cravings.rCY

Their drive thrus have more than their share of drunk drivers after the
bars close.>

Investments in Night Castle

Toward this end, White Castles are staying open later. Nearly 70% of the restaurants are open 24 hours a day, seven days a week. Many of the remaining ones are open well past midnight on weekdays and 24/7 on the weekends. White Castle has ramped up its hiring to accommodate the longer hours.

https://www.whitecastle.com/about-us/press-releases/6-billion

At the turn of the century, they were all 24 hours, and closed only on Christmas Day.>

The retail division of the family-owned business sold its 6th billionth retail Slider at the end of 2021 and achieved record sales last year. In fact, 20% of its total historic sales have come in the past three years alone. The division is poised for continued growth as it celebrates its 35th anniversary and expands its manufacturing capacity in 2022.

rCLRetail sales have grown steadily since we launched the division in 1987, but they have really taken off in the past decade and even more so the past few years,rCY said Tiffany Carreker, general manager and vice president of sales for White CastlerCOs retail division. rCLOur Cravers love our Sliders, whether theyrCOre made at a restaurant or purchased from the freezer section at their local store.rCY

People buy those frozen ones. I can't imagine doing that. People have
shitty taste. They sell fewer hot, fresh burgers, and more frozen crap.>

To keep up with the growing demand for its frozen Sliders, White Castle
broke ground last summer on a major expansion of its retail food manufacturing plant in Vandalia, Ohio, near Dayton. The company is
investing $27 million in the project, which should be complete by June.
The expansion doubles the size of the plant from approximately 75,000
square feet to 150,000 square feet.

https://www.restaurantbusinessonline.com/top-500-chains-2025/white-castle

87 of 250

Gee. 87th. They are closing more stores than opening new ones.

Top 500
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2024 U.S. Sales ($000,000) $651
2024 U.S. Units 340
Menu Category Burger

They failed in every single foreign market. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/White_Castle_(restaurant)#International_activities
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On 8/15/2026 10:47 AM, KenitoBenito wrote:

On Fri, 14 Aug 2026 15:39:32 -0700, KlausSchadenfreude <klaus.schadenfreudeREMOVE@gmail.com> wrote:

On Thu, 13 Aug 2026 18:59:48 -0500, Bryan Simmons
<bryangsimmons@gmail.com> wrote:

On 8/13/2026 4:49 PM, cranberry transformer wrote:

On Thu, 13 Aug 2026 12:14:29 -0700
KlausSchadenfreude <klaus.schadenfreudeREMOVE@gmail.com> wrote:

On Thu, 13 Aug 2026 06:44:39 -0500, Bryan Simmons
<bryangsimmons@gmail.com> wrote:

On 8/12/2026 12:06 PM, cranberry transformer wrote:

https://www.yelp.com/article/yelps-top-25-burger-chains-in-the-us >>>>>>>

. In-N-Out Burger

A West Coast icon, In-N-Out has earned its legendary status by
sticking to what it does best: using fresh, simple ingredients for >>>>>>> a menu that has remained consistent since 1948. Fans rave about
the friendly service, and the nostalgic drive-thru experience.
Whether yourCOre a first-timer or a lifelong fan, thererCOs something >>>>>>> undeniably satisfying about pulling up to an In-N-Out and ordering >>>>>>> a Double-Double and Animal Style french fries (topped with their >>>>>>> secret sauce, grilled onions, and cheese).

Repulsive sauce. Animal Style must mean good for slopping the pigs. >>>>>

All of us are happy it repulses you, since it makes the line much
shorter.

Meanwhile over at the White Castle...

White Castle customers are dying off faster than they are being
replaced.

Wrong, as I suspect you usually are.

Bryan has proved he is not one to allow reality to interfere with
his claims. So long as he can express how bitter he is with life, he's
fine with it.

They are closing more locations than they are opening. Their parking
lots look emptier than a decade ago, and the same for the drive thrus.>>

It's a death spiral.

'Fraid not, old timer.

They don't release data like same store sales, but it's obvious to those
who live near one, and drive past closed locations.>

There are locations that are closing, but this is due to increase
real estate values. It's more profitable to sell the land to
developers. There is nothing to suggest the number of customers is
declining.

https://www.thestreet.com/restaurants/white-castle-burger-chain-closes-restaurant

I find it amusing that one location is now a KFC. So long as
White Castle made money on the sale, I doubt anyone is worried.

If a KFC is more viable than a WC, that says a lot.
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We're just too courteous to say so."
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On Sat, 15 Aug 2026 16:24:11 -0500
Bryan Simmons <bryangsimmons@gmail.com> wrote:

On 8/15/2026 10:52 AM, cranberry transformer wrote:

On Fri, 14 Aug 2026 15:39:32 -0700
KlausSchadenfreude <klaus.schadenfreudeREMOVE@gmail.com> wrote:

On Thu, 13 Aug 2026 18:59:48 -0500, Bryan Simmons
<bryangsimmons@gmail.com> wrote:

On 8/13/2026 4:49 PM, cranberry transformer wrote:

On Thu, 13 Aug 2026 12:14:29 -0700
KlausSchadenfreude <klaus.schadenfreudeREMOVE@gmail.com> wrote:

On Thu, 13 Aug 2026 06:44:39 -0500, Bryan Simmons
<bryangsimmons@gmail.com> wrote:

On 8/12/2026 12:06 PM, cranberry transformer wrote:

https://www.yelp.com/article/yelps-top-25-burger-chains-in-the-us >>>>>>>

. In-N-Out Burger

A West Coast icon, In-N-Out has earned its legendary status by >>>>>>> sticking to what it does best: using fresh, simple ingredients >>>>>>> for a menu that has remained consistent since 1948. Fans rave
about the friendly service, and the nostalgic drive-thru
experience. Whether yourCOre a first-timer or a lifelong fan,
thererCOs something undeniably satisfying about pulling up to an >>>>>>> In-N-Out and ordering a Double-Double and Animal Style french
fries (topped with their secret sauce, grilled onions, and
cheese).

Repulsive sauce. Animal Style must mean good for slopping the
pigs.

All of us are happy it repulses you, since it makes the line
much shorter.

Meanwhile over at the White Castle...

White Castle customers are dying off faster than they are being
replaced.

Wrong, as I suspect you usually are.

Bryan ha sit in for boomers...

It's a death spiral.

'Fraid not, old timer.

Not even close:

https://whitecastle.com/about-us/press-releases/Night%20Castle
The Data Is In

In April, White Castle conducted a survey through a third-party
online survey platform and found that 83% of respondents like to
eat fast-food following a night out. In a separate survey of
Cravers conducted a month later, 80% of respondents said that White
Castle is the best fast-food brand for making late-night memories
and is worth going the extra mile to satisfy their late-night
cravings.

rCLThe survey results confirm that werCOre making the right decision to strengthen White CastlerCOs standing as the go-to after-hours scene
for great food,rCY said Jamie Richardson, vice president at White
Castle. rCLWe want to be the place where people go at night to
satisfy their late-night cravings.rCY

Their drive thrus have more than their share of drunk drivers after
the bars close.>

Investments in Night Castle

Toward this end, White Castles are staying open later. Nearly 70%
of the restaurants are open 24 hours a day, seven days a week. Many
of the remaining ones are open well past midnight on weekdays and
24/7 on the weekends. White Castle has ramped up its hiring to
accommodate the longer hours.

https://www.whitecastle.com/about-us/press-releases/6-billion

At the turn of the century, they were all 24 hours, and closed only
on Christmas Day.>

What's old is new again.

The retail division of the family-owned business sold its 6th
billionth retail Slider at the end of 2021 and achieved record
sales last year. In fact, 20% of its total historic sales have come
in the past three years alone. The division is poised for continued
growth as it celebrates its 35th anniversary and expands its
manufacturing capacity in 2022.

rCLRetail sales have grown steadily since we launched the division in
1987, but they have really taken off in the past decade and even
more so the past few years,rCY said Tiffany Carreker, general manager
and vice president of sales for White CastlerCOs retail division.
rCLOur Cravers love our Sliders, whether theyrCOre made at a restaurant
or purchased from the freezer section at their local store.rCY

People buy those frozen ones. I can't imagine doing that. People have
shitty taste. They sell fewer hot, fresh burgers, and more frozen
crap.

I buy them and they are fine if you have some decent air fryer "nails"
for them.

To keep up with the growing demand for its frozen Sliders, White
Castle broke ground last summer on a major expansion of its retail
food manufacturing plant in Vandalia, Ohio, near Dayton. The
company is investing $27 million in the project, which should be
complete by June. The expansion doubles the size of the plant from approximately 75,000 square feet to 150,000 square feet.

https://www.restaurantbusinessonline.com/top-500-chains-2025/white-castle

87 of 250

Gee. 87th. They are closing more stores than opening new ones.

They're still making good sales.
I mean if you consider a 35.1% profit margin as reflective.
Most would. https://www.linkedin.com/posts/bypoddar_white-castle-generates-7206-million-annually-activity-7416844851515899904-18da
White Castle posted a 35.1% profit margin in 2024. They're more profitable as a percentage than most chains 10x their size.
Part of that margin comes from mix: a national grocery products business (frozen sliders) sitting alongside their restaurant operations. But it's also extreme operational discipline.
For a sub-$1B chain, White Castle invests heavily in tech: 100+ AI drive-thrus, dozens of Flippy robots, autonomous delivery pilots. Most brands don't invest like that until they have thousands of units.
Their "Castle of Tomorrow" prototype tests autonomous delivery and advanced automation. Early results show order times around 60 seconds and completion rates near 90%.
But 345 stores can only generate so much revenue, no matter how efficient. White Castle frozen sliders are now in all 50 states. They don't break out retail vs restaurant sales, but nationwide grocery distribution suggests the grocery side could be a meaningful slice of total revenue.
They've essentially franchised their product, not their restaurants.
Most legacy chains went all-in on real estate and used grocery products as a side hustle. White Castle inverted that: stayed a 345-unit regional chain and pushed the product into all 50 states.
The founding family has run the company for 104 years under the same private ownership. They've preserved the brand, maintained standards, and built a cult following while choosing a very different path than their competitors.
White Castle didn't fail. They've survived over a century and posted industry-leading margins.
Business model choices compound more than operational decisions. You can be the most efficient operator in the industry. But if you choose a different model than your competitors, efficiency alone won't bridge the scale gap.
White Castle helped invent fast food. They just chose not to scale it
the conventional way.

Top 500
White Castle
Facebook
Twitter
LinkedIn
Technomic's Top 500 Chain Restaurant Report ranks the
highest-grossing brands in the U.S. Explore the data to see how the
biggest chains fared in 2024.

Top 500 Year 2025
2024 U.S. Sales ($000,000) $651
2024 U.S. Units 340
Menu Category Burger

They failed in every single foreign market. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/White_Castle_(restaurant)#International_activities

The absolute gold standard contrarian indicator!
I love them for being family-owned 'Murican to their core.
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On Sat, 15 Aug 2026 17:03:37 -0500
Bryan Simmons <bryangsimmons@gmail.com> wrote:

On 8/15/2026 10:47 AM, KenitoBenito wrote:

On Fri, 14 Aug 2026 15:39:32 -0700, KlausSchadenfreude <klaus.schadenfreudeREMOVE@gmail.com> wrote:

On Thu, 13 Aug 2026 18:59:48 -0500, Bryan Simmons
<bryangsimmons@gmail.com> wrote:

On 8/13/2026 4:49 PM, cranberry transformer wrote:

On Thu, 13 Aug 2026 12:14:29 -0700
KlausSchadenfreude <klaus.schadenfreudeREMOVE@gmail.com> wrote:

On Thu, 13 Aug 2026 06:44:39 -0500, Bryan Simmons
<bryangsimmons@gmail.com> wrote:

On 8/12/2026 12:06 PM, cranberry transformer wrote:

https://www.yelp.com/article/yelps-top-25-burger-chains-in-the-us >>>>>>>

. In-N-Out Burger

A West Coast icon, In-N-Out has earned its legendary status by >>>>>>> sticking to what it does best: using fresh, simple
ingredients for a menu that has remained consistent since
1948. Fans rave about the friendly service, and the nostalgic
drive-thru experience. Whether yourCOre a first-timer or a
lifelong fan, thererCOs something undeniably satisfying about
pulling up to an In-N-Out and ordering a Double-Double and
Animal Style french fries (topped with their secret sauce,
grilled onions, and cheese).

Repulsive sauce. Animal Style must mean good for slopping the
pigs.

All of us are happy it repulses you, since it makes the line
much shorter.

Meanwhile over at the White Castle...

White Castle customers are dying off faster than they are being
replaced.

Wrong, as I suspect you usually are.

Bryan has proved he is not one to allow reality to interfere
with his claims. So long as he can express how bitter he is with
life, he's fine with it.

They are closing more locations than they are opening. Their parking
lots look emptier than a decade ago, and the same for the drive
thrus.

Nope. https://www.linkedin.com/posts/bypoddar_white-castle-generates-7206-million-annually-activity-7416844851515899904-18da
White Castle generates $720.6 million annually. McDonald's does that in 2 days. White Castle pioneered fast food in 1921: standardized operations, assembly-line kitchens, the works. They have 345 stores today. McDonald's started 19 years later and has 39,000+ locations.
The gap reveals what happens when you choose control over scale.
They've never franchised. Every location is company-owned and operated. When McDonald's embraced franchising in the 1950s, they exploded from a regional chain to a national powerhouse within a decade.
White Castle stayed regional.
The structural differences show:
rCo Only about 30% of White Castle locations have drive-thrus
rCo Drive-thru accounts for 70%+ of sales at most major burger chains
rCo White Castle operates at a fundamental disadvantage in today's market
White Castle leans into late-night, value sliders, and urban locations with limited drive-thru access. Different format, different economics.
White Castle posted a 35.1% profit margin in 2024. They're more profitable as a percentage than most chains 10x their size.
Part of that margin comes from mix: a national grocery products business (frozen sliders) sitting alongside their restaurant operations. But it's also extreme operational discipline.
For a sub-$1B chain, White Castle invests heavily in tech: 100+ AI drive-thrus, dozens of Flippy robots, autonomous delivery pilots. Most brands don't invest like that until they have thousands of units.
Their "Castle of Tomorrow" prototype tests autonomous delivery and advanced automation. Early results show order times around 60 seconds and completion rates near 90%.
But 345 stores can only generate so much revenue, no matter how efficient. White Castle frozen sliders are now in all 50 states. They don't break out retail vs restaurant sales, but nationwide grocery distribution suggests the grocery side could be a meaningful slice of total revenue.
They've essentially franchised their product, not their restaurants.
Most legacy chains went all-in on real estate and used grocery products as a side hustle. White Castle inverted that: stayed a 345-unit regional chain and pushed the product into all 50 states.
The founding family has run the company for 104 years under the same private ownership. They've preserved the brand, maintained standards, and built a cult following while choosing a very different path than their competitors.
White Castle didn't fail. They've survived over a century and posted industry-leading margins.
Business model choices compound more than operational decisions. You can be the most efficient operator in the industry. But if you choose a different model than your competitors, efficiency alone won't bridge the scale gap.
White Castle helped invent fast food. They just chose not to scale it
the conventional way.

It's a death spiral.

'Fraid not, old timer.

They don't release data like same store sales, but it's obvious to
those who live near one, and drive past closed locations.

See above.
35.1% profit margin.
Basta.

There are locations that are closing, but this is due to
increase real estate values. It's more profitable to sell the land
to developers. There is nothing to suggest the number of customers
is declining.

https://www.thestreet.com/restaurants/white-castle-burger-chain-closes-restaurant

I find it amusing that one location is now a KFC. So long as
White Castle made money on the sale, I doubt anyone is worried.

If a KFC is more viable than a WC, that says a lot.

Not really.
Is KFC family-owned?
You are just winging it here.
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On Sat, 15 Aug 2026 16:24:11 -0500, Bryan Simmons
<bryangsimmons@gmail.com> wrote:

On 8/15/2026 10:52 AM, cranberry transformer wrote:

On Fri, 14 Aug 2026 15:39:32 -0700
KlausSchadenfreude <klaus.schadenfreudeREMOVE@gmail.com> wrote:

On Thu, 13 Aug 2026 18:59:48 -0500, Bryan Simmons
<bryangsimmons@gmail.com> wrote:

On 8/13/2026 4:49 PM, cranberry transformer wrote:

On Thu, 13 Aug 2026 12:14:29 -0700
KlausSchadenfreude <klaus.schadenfreudeREMOVE@gmail.com> wrote:

On Thu, 13 Aug 2026 06:44:39 -0500, Bryan Simmons
<bryangsimmons@gmail.com> wrote:

On 8/12/2026 12:06 PM, cranberry transformer wrote:

https://www.yelp.com/article/yelps-top-25-burger-chains-in-the-us >>>>>>>>

. In-N-Out Burger

A West Coast icon, In-N-Out has earned its legendary status by >>>>>>>> sticking to what it does best: using fresh, simple ingredients >>>>>>>> for a menu that has remained consistent since 1948. Fans rave
about the friendly service, and the nostalgic drive-thru
experience. Whether youAre a first-timer or a lifelong fan,
thereAs something undeniably satisfying about pulling up to an >>>>>>>> In-N-Out and ordering a Double-Double and Animal Style french
fries (topped with their secret sauce, grilled onions, and
cheese).

Repulsive sauce. Animal Style must mean good for slopping the
pigs.

All of us are happy it repulses you, since it makes the line much
shorter.

Meanwhile over at the White Castle...

White Castle customers are dying off faster than they are being
replaced.

Wrong, as I suspect you usually are.

Bryan ha sit in for boomers...

It's a death spiral.

'Fraid not, old timer.

Not even close:

https://whitecastle.com/about-us/press-releases/Night%20Castle
The Data Is In

In April, White Castle conducted a survey through a third-party online survey platform and found that 83% of respondents like to eat fast-food following a night out. In a separate survey of Cravers conducted a month later, 80% of respondents said that White Castle is the best fast-food brand for making late-night memories and is worth going the extra mile to satisfy their late-night cravings.

oThe survey results confirm that weAre making the right decision to strengthen White CastleAs standing as the go-to after-hours scene for great food,o said Jamie Richardson, vice president at White Castle. oWe want to be the place where people go at night to satisfy their late-night cravings.o

Their drive thrus have more than their share of drunk drivers after the
bars close.>

Irrelevant. NEXT!

Investments in Night Castle

Toward this end, White Castles are staying open later. Nearly 70% of the restaurants are open 24 hours a day, seven days a week. Many of the remaining ones are open well past midnight on weekdays and 24/7 on the weekends. White Castle has ramped up its hiring to accommodate the longer hours.

https://www.whitecastle.com/about-us/press-releases/6-billion

At the turn of the century, they were all 24 hours, and closed only on >Christmas Day.>

Irrelevant. NEXT!

The retail division of the family-owned business sold its 6th billionth retail Slider at the end of 2021 and achieved record sales last year. In fact, 20% of its total historic sales have come in the past three years alone. The division is poised for continued growth as it celebrates its 35th anniversary and expands its manufacturing capacity in 2022.

oRetail sales have grown steadily since we launched the division in 1987, but they have really taken off in the past decade and even more so the past few years,o said Tiffany Carreker, general manager and vice president of sales for White CastleAs retail division. oOur Cravers love our Sliders, whether theyAre made at a restaurant or purchased from the freezer section at their local store.o

People buy those frozen ones. I can't imagine doing that.

Nobody gives a fuck what you can or can't imagine.

They failed in every single foreign market.

Irrelevant. NEXT!

Oh, that's all?

Laugh laugh laugh laugh.
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On Sat, 15 Aug 2026 08:47:02 -0700, KenitoBenito <Kenito@Benito.too>
wrote:

On Fri, 14 Aug 2026 15:39:32 -0700, KlausSchadenfreude ><klaus.schadenfreudeREMOVE@gmail.com> wrote:

On Thu, 13 Aug 2026 18:59:48 -0500, Bryan Simmons
<bryangsimmons@gmail.com> wrote:

On 8/13/2026 4:49 PM, cranberry transformer wrote:

On Thu, 13 Aug 2026 12:14:29 -0700
KlausSchadenfreude <klaus.schadenfreudeREMOVE@gmail.com> wrote:

On Thu, 13 Aug 2026 06:44:39 -0500, Bryan Simmons
<bryangsimmons@gmail.com> wrote:

On 8/12/2026 12:06 PM, cranberry transformer wrote:

https://www.yelp.com/article/yelps-top-25-burger-chains-in-the-us >>>>>>>

. In-N-Out Burger

A West Coast icon, In-N-Out has earned its legendary status by
sticking to what it does best: using fresh, simple ingredients for >>>>>>> a menu that has remained consistent since 1948. Fans rave about
the friendly service, and the nostalgic drive-thru experience.
Whether youAre a first-timer or a lifelong fan, thereAs something >>>>>>> undeniably satisfying about pulling up to an In-N-Out and ordering >>>>>>> a Double-Double and Animal Style french fries (topped with their >>>>>>> secret sauce, grilled onions, and cheese).

Repulsive sauce. Animal Style must mean good for slopping the pigs. >>>>>

All of us are happy it repulses you, since it makes the line much
shorter.

Meanwhile over at the White Castle...

White Castle customers are dying off faster than they are being >>>replaced.

Wrong, as I suspect you usually are.

Bryan has proved he is not one to allow reality to interfere with
his claims. So long as he can express how bitter he is with life, he's
fine with it.

AS long as it keeps him out of line at the White Castle, that can only
be a good thing.
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On Sat, 15 Aug 2026 17:03:37 -0500, Bryan Simmons
<bryangsimmons@gmail.com> wrote:

They are closing more locations than they are opening. Their parking
lots look emptier than a decade ago, and the same for the drive thrus.>>

The one I went to last month had a full parking lot and a long line.
So your anecdotal evidence means zero
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From Newsgroup: alt.food.fast-food

On Sat, 15 Aug 2026 17:03:37 -0500, Bryan Simmons
<bryangsimmons@gmail.com> wrote:

On 8/15/2026 10:47 AM, KenitoBenito wrote:

On Fri, 14 Aug 2026 15:39:32 -0700, KlausSchadenfreude
<klaus.schadenfreudeREMOVE@gmail.com> wrote:

On Thu, 13 Aug 2026 18:59:48 -0500, Bryan Simmons
<bryangsimmons@gmail.com> wrote:

On 8/13/2026 4:49 PM, cranberry transformer wrote:

On Thu, 13 Aug 2026 12:14:29 -0700
KlausSchadenfreude <klaus.schadenfreudeREMOVE@gmail.com> wrote:

On Thu, 13 Aug 2026 06:44:39 -0500, Bryan Simmons
<bryangsimmons@gmail.com> wrote:

On 8/12/2026 12:06 PM, cranberry transformer wrote:

https://www.yelp.com/article/yelps-top-25-burger-chains-in-the-us >>>>>>>>
. In-N-Out Burger

A West Coast icon, In-N-Out has earned its legendary status by >>>>>>>> sticking to what it does best: using fresh, simple ingredients for >>>>>>>> a menu that has remained consistent since 1948. Fans rave about >>>>>>>> the friendly service, and the nostalgic drive-thru experience. >>>>>>>> Whether youAre a first-timer or a lifelong fan, thereAs something >>>>>>>> undeniably satisfying about pulling up to an In-N-Out and ordering >>>>>>>> a Double-Double and Animal Style french fries (topped with their >>>>>>>> secret sauce, grilled onions, and cheese).

Repulsive sauce. Animal Style must mean good for slopping the pigs. >>>>>>

All of us are happy it repulses you, since it makes the line much
shorter.

Meanwhile over at the White Castle...

White Castle customers are dying off faster than they are being
replaced.

Wrong, as I suspect you usually are.

Bryan has proved he is not one to allow reality to interfere with
his claims. So long as he can express how bitter he is with life, he's
fine with it.

They are closing more locations than they are opening. Their parking
lots look emptier than a decade ago, and the same for the drive thrus.

White Castle is selling the properties. It's more profitable. But
that's reality, and you can't express how angry you are with life if
you allow reality to be a factor.

It's a death spiral.

'Fraid not, old timer.

They don't release data like same store sales, but it's obvious to those
who live near one, and drive past closed locations.>

Those that are open are doing very well. Certainly the ones I see
in LA during the day. Since I sleep at night, I can't comment on how
they are fairing at those times. I would presume, in the absence of
countering evidence, that they are doing as well as expected.
As has been shown, the closures are NOT the result of low sales,
but real estate prices.

There are locations that are closing, but this is due to increase
real estate values. It's more profitable to sell the land to
developers. There is nothing to suggest the number of customers is
declining.

https://www.thestreet.com/restaurants/white-castle-burger-chain-closes-restaurant

I find it amusing that one location is now a KFC. So long as
White Castle made money on the sale, I doubt anyone is worried.

If a KFC is more viable than a WC, that says a lot.

It says someone was willing to pay White Castle for the land to
operate a KFC.
As the article shows, the closings are due to the land being
sold. You did read it, right? Or do you really fear losing your
ability to express how pissed off with life too much?
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On Sat, 15 Aug 2026 16:25:09 -0600, cranberry transformer
<ct@in.valid> wrote:

[...]

It's a death spiral.

'Fraid not, old timer.

Not even close:

https://whitecastle.com/about-us/press-releases/Night%20Castle
The Data Is In

In April, White Castle conducted a survey through a third-party
online survey platform and found that 83% of respondents like to
eat fast-food following a night out. In a separate survey of
Cravers conducted a month later, 80% of respondents said that White
Castle is the best fast-food brand for making late-night memories
and is worth going the extra mile to satisfy their late-night
cravings.

oThe survey results confirm that weAre making the right decision to
strengthen White CastleAs standing as the go-to after-hours scene
for great food,o said Jamie Richardson, vice president at White
Castle. oWe want to be the place where people go at night to
satisfy their late-night cravings.o

Their drive thrus have more than their share of drunk drivers after
the bars close.>

Investments in Night Castle

Toward this end, White Castles are staying open later. Nearly 70%
of the restaurants are open 24 hours a day, seven days a week. Many
of the remaining ones are open well past midnight on weekdays and
24/7 on the weekends. White Castle has ramped up its hiring to
accommodate the longer hours.

https://www.whitecastle.com/about-us/press-releases/6-billion

At the turn of the century, they were all 24 hours, and closed only
on Christmas Day.>

What's old is new again.

I don't know if any of the local locations are 24 hours. I long
ago ceased the late night White Castle run.

The retail division of the family-owned business sold its 6th
billionth retail Slider at the end of 2021 and achieved record
sales last year. In fact, 20% of its total historic sales have come
in the past three years alone. The division is poised for continued
growth as it celebrates its 35th anniversary and expands its
manufacturing capacity in 2022.

oRetail sales have grown steadily since we launched the division in
1987, but they have really taken off in the past decade and even
more so the past few years,o said Tiffany Carreker, general manager
and vice president of sales for White CastleAs retail division.
oOur Cravers love our Sliders, whether theyAre made at a restaurant
or purchased from the freezer section at their local store.o

People buy those frozen ones. I can't imagine doing that. People have
shitty taste. They sell fewer hot, fresh burgers, and more frozen
crap.

I buy them and they are fine if you have some decent air fryer "nails"
for them.

I've not tried the frozen ones. I would expect that, if made
properly, they would be fine.

To keep up with the growing demand for its frozen Sliders, White
Castle broke ground last summer on a major expansion of its retail
food manufacturing plant in Vandalia, Ohio, near Dayton. The
company is investing $27 million in the project, which should be
complete by June. The expansion doubles the size of the plant from
approximately 75,000 square feet to 150,000 square feet.

https://www.restaurantbusinessonline.com/top-500-chains-2025/white-castle >> >
87 of 250

Gee. 87th. They are closing more stores than opening new ones.

They're still making good sales.

I mean if you consider a 35.1% profit margin as reflective.

Most would.

Most aren't seeking out a means of expressing how bitter they are
with life. This appears to be all Bryan cares about, if his Usenet
posts are an accurate indication.

https://www.linkedin.com/posts/bypoddar_white-castle-generates-7206-million-annually-activity-7416844851515899904-18da

White Castle posted a 35.1% profit margin in 2024. They're more profitable as a percentage than most chains 10x their size.

[Snip Bryan being PROVED wrong. Again.]

Maybe we'll get to witness Bryan express his bitterness with you
proving him wrong. We will have to wait and see.
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On Sun, 16 Aug 2026 04:55:47 -0700, KlausSchadenfreude <klaus.schadenfreudeREMOVE@gmail.com> wrote:

On Sat, 15 Aug 2026 08:47:02 -0700, KenitoBenito <Kenito@Benito.too>
wrote:

On Fri, 14 Aug 2026 15:39:32 -0700, KlausSchadenfreude >><klaus.schadenfreudeREMOVE@gmail.com> wrote:

On Thu, 13 Aug 2026 18:59:48 -0500, Bryan Simmons >>><bryangsimmons@gmail.com> wrote:

On 8/13/2026 4:49 PM, cranberry transformer wrote:

On Thu, 13 Aug 2026 12:14:29 -0700
KlausSchadenfreude <klaus.schadenfreudeREMOVE@gmail.com> wrote:

On Thu, 13 Aug 2026 06:44:39 -0500, Bryan Simmons
<bryangsimmons@gmail.com> wrote:

On 8/12/2026 12:06 PM, cranberry transformer wrote:

https://www.yelp.com/article/yelps-top-25-burger-chains-in-the-us >>>>>>>>

. In-N-Out Burger

A West Coast icon, In-N-Out has earned its legendary status by >>>>>>>> sticking to what it does best: using fresh, simple ingredients for >>>>>>>> a menu that has remained consistent since 1948. Fans rave about >>>>>>>> the friendly service, and the nostalgic drive-thru experience. >>>>>>>> Whether youAre a first-timer or a lifelong fan, thereAs something >>>>>>>> undeniably satisfying about pulling up to an In-N-Out and ordering >>>>>>>> a Double-Double and Animal Style french fries (topped with their >>>>>>>> secret sauce, grilled onions, and cheese).

Repulsive sauce. Animal Style must mean good for slopping the pigs. >>>>>>

All of us are happy it repulses you, since it makes the line much
shorter.

Meanwhile over at the White Castle...

White Castle customers are dying off faster than they are being >>>>replaced.

Wrong, as I suspect you usually are.

Bryan has proved he is not one to allow reality to interfere with
his claims. So long as he can express how bitter he is with life, he's
fine with it.

AS long as it keeps him out of line at the White Castle, that can only
be a good thing.

Agreed.
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On Sun, 16 Aug 2026 04:57:07 -0700, KlausSchadenfreude <klaus.schadenfreudeREMOVE@gmail.com> wrote:

On Sat, 15 Aug 2026 17:03:37 -0500, Bryan Simmons
<bryangsimmons@gmail.com> wrote:

They are closing more locations than they are opening. Their parking
lots look emptier than a decade ago, and the same for the drive thrus.>>

The one I went to last month had a full parking lot and a long line.
So your anecdotal evidence means zero

But how else is Bryan expected to express how bitter he is with
how his life has ended up?
Did you know a small percentage of WCs even have a drive through?
So the lack of DT sales is to be expected. But that's reality, and as
such, something Bryan will ignore.
--
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The blas-femur!
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On Sun, 16 Aug 2026 04:54:58 -0700
KlausSchadenfreude <klaus.schadenfreudeREMOVE@gmail.com> wrote:

On Sat, 15 Aug 2026 16:24:11 -0500, Bryan Simmons
<bryangsimmons@gmail.com> wrote:

On 8/15/2026 10:52 AM, cranberry transformer wrote:

On Fri, 14 Aug 2026 15:39:32 -0700
KlausSchadenfreude <klaus.schadenfreudeREMOVE@gmail.com> wrote:

On Thu, 13 Aug 2026 18:59:48 -0500, Bryan Simmons
<bryangsimmons@gmail.com> wrote:

On 8/13/2026 4:49 PM, cranberry transformer wrote:

On Thu, 13 Aug 2026 12:14:29 -0700
KlausSchadenfreude <klaus.schadenfreudeREMOVE@gmail.com> wrote:

On Thu, 13 Aug 2026 06:44:39 -0500, Bryan Simmons
<bryangsimmons@gmail.com> wrote:

On 8/12/2026 12:06 PM, cranberry transformer wrote:

https://www.yelp.com/article/yelps-top-25-burger-chains-in-the-us >>>>>>>>

. In-N-Out Burger

A West Coast icon, In-N-Out has earned its legendary status
by sticking to what it does best: using fresh, simple
ingredients for a menu that has remained consistent since
1948. Fans rave about the friendly service, and the
nostalgic drive-thru experience. Whether yourCOre a
first-timer or a lifelong fan, thererCOs something undeniably >>>>>>>> satisfying about pulling up to an In-N-Out and ordering a
Double-Double and Animal Style french fries (topped with
their secret sauce, grilled onions, and cheese).

Repulsive sauce. Animal Style must mean good for slopping the
pigs.

All of us are happy it repulses you, since it makes the line
much shorter.

Meanwhile over at the White Castle...

White Castle customers are dying off faster than they are being
replaced.

Wrong, as I suspect you usually are.

Bryan ha sit in for boomers...

It's a death spiral.

'Fraid not, old timer.

Not even close:

https://whitecastle.com/about-us/press-releases/Night%20Castle
The Data Is In

In April, White Castle conducted a survey through a third-party
online survey platform and found that 83% of respondents like to
eat fast-food following a night out. In a separate survey of
Cravers conducted a month later, 80% of respondents said that
White Castle is the best fast-food brand for making late-night
memories and is worth going the extra mile to satisfy their
late-night cravings.

rCLThe survey results confirm that werCOre making the right decision
to strengthen White CastlerCOs standing as the go-to after-hours
scene for great food,rCY said Jamie Richardson, vice president at
White Castle. rCLWe want to be the place where people go at night to
satisfy their late-night cravings.rCY

Their drive thrus have more than their share of drunk drivers after
the bars close.>

Irrelevant. NEXT!

Investments in Night Castle

Toward this end, White Castles are staying open later. Nearly 70%
of the restaurants are open 24 hours a day, seven days a week.
Many of the remaining ones are open well past midnight on weekdays
and 24/7 on the weekends. White Castle has ramped up its hiring to
accommodate the longer hours.

https://www.whitecastle.com/about-us/press-releases/6-billion

At the turn of the century, they were all 24 hours, and closed only
on Christmas Day.>

Irrelevant. NEXT!

The retail division of the family-owned business sold its 6th
billionth retail Slider at the end of 2021 and achieved record
sales last year. In fact, 20% of its total historic sales have
come in the past three years alone. The division is poised for
continued growth as it celebrates its 35th anniversary and expands
its manufacturing capacity in 2022.

rCLRetail sales have grown steadily since we launched the division
in 1987, but they have really taken off in the past decade and
even more so the past few years,rCY said Tiffany Carreker, general
manager and vice president of sales for White CastlerCOs retail
division. rCLOur Cravers love our Sliders, whether theyrCOre made at a
restaurant or purchased from the freezer section at their local
store.rCY

People buy those frozen ones. I can't imagine doing that.

Nobody gives a fuck what you can or can't imagine.

They failed in every single foreign market.

Irrelevant. NEXT!

Oh, that's all?

Laugh laugh laugh laugh.

;-))))
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On Sun, 16 Aug 2026 04:57:07 -0700
KlausSchadenfreude <klaus.schadenfreudeREMOVE@gmail.com> wrote:

On Sat, 15 Aug 2026 17:03:37 -0500, Bryan Simmons
<bryangsimmons@gmail.com> wrote:

They are closing more locations than they are opening. Their parking
lots look emptier than a decade ago, and the same for the drive
thrus.>>

The one I went to last month had a full parking lot and a long line.
So your anecdotal evidence means zero

He's done this before with conflating local St. Louis observations to
the rest of the nation/region.


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On Sun, 16 Aug 2026 05:03:07 -0700
KenitoBenito <Kenito@Benito.too> wrote:

On Sat, 15 Aug 2026 16:25:09 -0600, cranberry transformer
<ct@in.valid> wrote:

[...]

It's a death spiral.

'Fraid not, old timer.

Not even close:

https://whitecastle.com/about-us/press-releases/Night%20Castle
The Data Is In

In April, White Castle conducted a survey through a third-party
online survey platform and found that 83% of respondents like to
eat fast-food following a night out. In a separate survey of
Cravers conducted a month later, 80% of respondents said that
White Castle is the best fast-food brand for making late-night
memories and is worth going the extra mile to satisfy their
late-night cravings.

rCLThe survey results confirm that werCOre making the right decision
to strengthen White CastlerCOs standing as the go-to after-hours
scene for great food,rCY said Jamie Richardson, vice president at
White Castle. rCLWe want to be the place where people go at night
to satisfy their late-night cravings.rCY

Their drive thrus have more than their share of drunk drivers after
the bars close.>

Investments in Night Castle

Toward this end, White Castles are staying open later. Nearly 70%
of the restaurants are open 24 hours a day, seven days a week.
Many of the remaining ones are open well past midnight on
weekdays and 24/7 on the weekends. White Castle has ramped up
its hiring to accommodate the longer hours.

https://www.whitecastle.com/about-us/press-releases/6-billion

At the turn of the century, they were all 24 hours, and closed only
on Christmas Day.>

What's old is new again.

I don't know if any of the local locations are 24 hours. I long
ago ceased the late night White Castle run.

The retail division of the family-owned business sold its 6th
billionth retail Slider at the end of 2021 and achieved record
sales last year. In fact, 20% of its total historic sales have
come in the past three years alone. The division is poised for
continued growth as it celebrates its 35th anniversary and
expands its manufacturing capacity in 2022.

rCLRetail sales have grown steadily since we launched the division
in 1987, but they have really taken off in the past decade and
even more so the past few years,rCY said Tiffany Carreker, general
manager and vice president of sales for White CastlerCOs retail
division. rCLOur Cravers love our Sliders, whether theyrCOre made at
a restaurant or purchased from the freezer section at their
local store.rCY

People buy those frozen ones. I can't imagine doing that. People
have shitty taste. They sell fewer hot, fresh burgers, and more
frozen crap.

I buy them and they are fine if you have some decent air fryer
"nails" for them.

I've not tried the frozen ones. I would expect that, if made
properly, they would be fine.

To keep up with the growing demand for its frozen Sliders, White
Castle broke ground last summer on a major expansion of its
retail food manufacturing plant in Vandalia, Ohio, near Dayton.
The company is investing $27 million in the project, which
should be complete by June. The expansion doubles the size of
the plant from approximately 75,000 square feet to 150,000
square feet.

https://www.restaurantbusinessonline.com/top-500-chains-2025/white-castle

87 of 250

Gee. 87th. They are closing more stores than opening new ones.

They're still making good sales.

I mean if you consider a 35.1% profit margin as reflective.

Most would.

Most aren't seeking out a means of expressing how bitter they are
with life. This appears to be all Bryan cares about, if his Usenet
posts are an accurate indication.

https://www.linkedin.com/posts/bypoddar_white-castle-generates-7206-million-annually-activity-7416844851515899904-18da

White Castle posted a 35.1% profit margin in 2024. They're more
profitable as a percentage than most chains 10x their size.

[Snip Bryan being PROVED wrong. Again.]

Maybe we'll get to witness Bryan express his bitterness with you
proving him wrong. We will have to wait and see.

Oh goody!
Should be a blast from the Gateway Arch land.
Speaking of which, why don't they have a McD's on that site anyway? https://www.nps.gov/jeff/learn/index.htm
50% branding signature missed right there... https://www.gatewayarch.com/gateway-arch-national-park/arch-cafe/ https://www.tiktok.com/@lukefoods/video/7580417098422275359
Meanwhile years back in a mooring nearby: https://www.facebook.com/groups/522520461119490/posts/25097229363221925/
And today: https://www.gatewayarch.com/hold-your-anchors-the-floating-mcdonalds-is-coming-back-to-st-louis/
Disclaimer: This is an April FoolsrCO joke.
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On 8/16/2026 1:05 PM, cranberry transformer wrote:

Meanwhile years back in a mooring nearby:

https://www.facebook.com/groups/522520461119490/posts/25097229363221925/

I forgot about that. We were out there for the second time in 1981 and
it was open. There were a couple of boats nearby.
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On Sun, 16 Aug 2026 15:25:52 -0400
Ed P <esp@snet.n> wrote:

On 8/16/2026 1:05 PM, cranberry transformer wrote:

Meanwhile years back in a mooring nearby:

https://www.facebook.com/groups/522520461119490/posts/25097229363221925/

I forgot about that. We were out there for the second time in 1981
and it was open. There were a couple of boats nearby.

How McD's let that get away...must have needed a lot of bilge work...

https://www.youtube.com/shorts/1Vnj4jmqRGc?feature=share

MvBarge!

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On 8/16/2026 11:58 AM, cranberry transformer wrote:

On Sun, 16 Aug 2026 04:57:07 -0700
KlausSchadenfreude <klaus.schadenfreudeREMOVE@gmail.com> wrote:

On Sat, 15 Aug 2026 17:03:37 -0500, Bryan Simmons
<bryangsimmons@gmail.com> wrote:

They are closing more locations than they are opening. Their parking
lots look emptier than a decade ago, and the same for the drive
thrus.>>

The one I went to last month had a full parking lot and a long line.
So your anecdotal evidence means zero

He's done this before with conflating local St. Louis observations to
the rest of the nation/region.

We do travel, so it's not all StL observations. Here's an example far
from StL--Murfreesboro, TN. There was once a WC and a Krystal. Only the Krystal is still open. The closest WC location is in Nashville, where 3
of the 5 locations have closed.

Kansas City? All locations closed. Las Vegas? Two of the five just
closed. Chicago, 5 locations recently closed. Zero recently opened. If
they aren't already earning more from the frozen ones than the freshly
cooked ones--aimed at the diaspora--they will be soon.

Those of us who loved them from childhood love them, but we're dying off.
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On Sun, 16 Aug 2026 17:37:46 -0500
Bryan Simmons <bryangsimmons@gmail.com> wrote:

On 8/16/2026 11:58 AM, cranberry transformer wrote:

On Sun, 16 Aug 2026 04:57:07 -0700
KlausSchadenfreude <klaus.schadenfreudeREMOVE@gmail.com> wrote:

On Sat, 15 Aug 2026 17:03:37 -0500, Bryan Simmons
<bryangsimmons@gmail.com> wrote:

They are closing more locations than they are opening. Their
parking lots look emptier than a decade ago, and the same for the
drive thrus.>>

The one I went to last month had a full parking lot and a long
line. So your anecdotal evidence means zero

He's done this before with conflating local St. Louis observations
to the rest of the nation/region.

We do travel, so it's not all StL observations. Here's an example far
from StL--Murfreesboro, TN. There was once a WC and a Krystal. Only
the Krystal is still open. The closest WC location is in Nashville,
where 3 of the 5 locations have closed.

And so was it a real estate play?
Because a 35.1% profit margin wasn't the cause.

Kansas City? All locations closed. Las Vegas? Two of the five just
closed.

WC is not a western states play, so...
You do know Vegas is in the shits now after courting whales and chasing
away the masses, yeah? https://www.franchiseempire.com/articles/white-castle-franchise
White CastlerCOs dedication to being a family-owned business prioritizing quality over aggressive growth has kept the brand unique in the fast-food space. In recent years, the company has entered new markets like Florida, Arizona, and Shanghai, China, maintaining its cult-like following.
Key Takeaways

White Castle operates 350 restaurants across 15 U.S. states, with the highest concentration in Illinois (59 locations).
White Castle does not franchise, ensuring strict quality control by
keeping operations close to supply facilities.
(never outrun your supply chain - same holds for also privately held In
& Out)
As of March 2024, White Castle operates 350 restaurants in the U.S., primarily in the Midwest. The company averages 10 new openings annually, with recent expansions into:
Arizona: A location in Scottsdale marks White CastlerCOs first move into the western U.S.
Florida: The largest White Castle restaurant, located in Orlando, opened recently.
China: Two popular locations in Shanghai highlight the brandrCOs international appeal.
Pros and Cons of White CastlerCOs Business Model
Pros:
Strong brand loyalty with a dedicated customer base.
High-quality products backed by proximity to supply facilities.
Cultural relevance and unique market positioning.
Cons:
Limited expansion due to a non-franchise model.
Concentrated geographic presence, primarily in the Midwest.
Slow growth rate compared to other fast-food chains.
(I feel like you're apple/oranges here. You can't reasonably comp them
to publicly traded franshsies like BK or Jack.)

Chicago, 5 locations recently closed. Zero recently opened.
If they aren't already earning more from the frozen ones than the
freshly cooked ones--aimed at the diaspora--they will be soon.

Those of us who loved them from childhood love them, but we're dying
off.

I disagree.
So does GooGoo's AI:
is white castle growing or contracting?
White Castle is growing, though
its trajectory is defined by a slow, highly deliberate expansion of
brick-and-mortar restaurants alongside rapid acceleration in its
retail grocery and automated kiosk divisions. As a privately held,
family-owned business that does not franchise in the United States,
the company avoids the explosive physical footprint growth of its
competitors, opting instead for strategic high-impact regional moves
and technological innovation.
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