Now that Microsoft seems to be dialling back its AI hysteria at least
in the consumer market, I wonder if it will stop rCLencouragingrCY PC
vendors to include the rCLCopilotrCY key on their keyboards. Is this still happening?
Because IrCOm imagining that, 10 or 20 years from now, werCOll be looking back at this brief time when PC keyboards had this extra key that
never really did anything useful, and stories will be told about why
it was there ...
Now that Microsoft seems to be dialling back its AI hysteria at least in
the consumer market, I wonder if it will stop rCLencouragingrCY PC vendors
to include the rCLCopilotrCY key on their keyboards. Is this still
happening?
On Sat, 13 Jun 2026 06:52:33 -0000 (UTC), Lawrence DrCOOliveiro wrote:
Now that Microsoft seems to be dialling back its AI hysteria at least in
the consumer market, I wonder if it will stop rCLencouragingrCY PC vendors >> to include the rCLCopilotrCY key on their keyboards. Is this still
happening?
The 'Windows' key has become a fixture on most keyboards. It's a good one
to map to Meta for i3 or sway.
One of the reasons I bought my Unicomp was that it didn't have that
stupid extra key, or anything associated with windows.
Is CoPilot already considered to be folklore?
Lawrence =?iso-8859-13?q?D=FFOliveiro?= <ldo@nz.invalid> posted:
Now that Microsoft seems to be dialling back its AI hysteria at least
in the consumer market, I wonder if it will stop rCLencouragingrCY PC
vendors to include the rCLCopilotrCY key on their keyboards. Is this still >> happening?
Because IrCOm imagining that, 10 or 20 years from now, werCOll be looking
back at this brief time when PC keyboards had this extra key that
never really did anything useful, and stories will be told about why
it was there ...
Maybe we can just remap the key to the 'context menu' key that nobody ever uses. It is, after all, the same key but with a different picture on the
top (and it generates a F23 keycode instead of ctrl-shift-f10
keychord)
And in 15 years, Microsoft will probably re-re-map it to something else nobody
uses. What will it be? The anticipation is killing me; I can hardly wait! ;-)
On 6/13/26 13:48, rbowman wrote:
On Sat, 13 Jun 2026 06:52:33 -0000 (UTC), Lawrence DrCOOliveiro wrote:
Now that Microsoft seems to be dialling back its AI hysteria at least
in the consumer market, I wonder if it will stop rCLencouragingrCY PC
vendors to include the rCLCopilotrCY key on their keyboards. Is this still >>> happening?
The 'Windows' key has become a fixture on most keyboards. It's a good
one to map to Meta for i3 or sway.
One of the reasons I bought my Unicomp was that it didn't have that
stupid extra key, or anything associated with windows.
The rCLSuperrCY modifier key was known in Lisp machine days though, wasnrCOt it.
And Emacs still knows that name. The rCLWindowsrCY key is commonly treated synonymously with that, particularly on keyboards, like on my Linux
boxes,
that donrCOt have any actual Microsoft-related marks on them.
On 2026-06-13, SpallsHurgenson(NG) wrote:
Lawrence =?iso-8859-13?q?D=FFOliveiro?= <ldo@nz.invalid> posted:
Now that Microsoft seems to be dialling back its AI hysteria at least
in the consumer market, I wonder if it will stop rCLencouragingrCY PC
vendors to include the rCLCopilotrCY key on their keyboards. Is this still >>> happening?
Because IrCOm imagining that, 10 or 20 years from now, werCOll be looking >>> back at this brief time when PC keyboards had this extra key that
never really did anything useful, and stories will be told about why
it was there ...
Maybe we can just remap the key to the 'context menu' key that nobody ever >> uses. It is, after all, the same key but with a different picture on the
top (and it generates a F23 keycode instead of ctrl-shift-f10
keychord)
Ah yes, I call it the Compose key :-)
(I still stand by an assessment that keyboards have too few modifiers,
one for the window manager, one key for compose, and you may be already
out of keys even before you consider a key to switch keymaps.
Non-Emacs users probably have a different assessment.)
And in 15 years, Microsoft will probably re-re-map it to something else nobody
uses. What will it be? The anticipation is killing me; I can hardly wait! ;-)
It's time keyboard manufacturers just give Microsoft the finger. This is silly, keyboards continuing to do Microsoft product placement, instead
of using generic logos or labels.
Emacs also knows about the oHypero modifier key, but there seems to be
no available key on currently-common PC keyboards that could serve
that function ...
For some reason (probably just random choice) I mapped Windows key
to Hyper in my Emacs setup back in 90s. I see that Super is kind of
standard now, but it is easier to change system settings than all
keybindings in Emacs configs.
Lawrence DrCOOliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> writes:
Emacs also knows about the rCLHyperrCY modifier key, but there seems to be >> no available key on currently-common PC keyboards that could serve
that function ...
For some reason (probably just random choice) I mapped Windows key to
Hyper in my Emacs setup back in 90s. I see that Super is kind of
standard now, but it is easier to change system settings than all
keybindings in Emacs configs.
Regards, Roman
Surely a global search-and-replace of o\H-o with o\s-o in your .emacs
ought to do the trick. ;)
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