• Re: =?UTF-8?B?4oCcQQ==?= dispute over the TAB key highlights a mismatch between Microsoft and IBM organizational =?UTF-8?B?c3RydWN0dXJlc+KAnQ==?= by Raymond Chen

    From Lawrence =?iso-8859-13?q?D=FFOliveiro?=@ldo@nz.invalid to alt.folklore.computers on Wed May 6 21:35:44 2026
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    On Wed, 6 May 2026 15:43:58 -0500, Lynn McGuire wrote:

    rCLA dispute over the TAB key highlights a mismatch between Microsoft
    and IBM organizational structuresrCY by Raymond Chen
    https://devblogs.microsoft.com/oldnewthing/20260505-00/?p=112298

    rCLA colleague recalls that while he was assigned to the IBM offices
    in Boca Raton, Florida, there was a dispute over what key should be
    used to move from one field to another in dialog boxes. The folks at
    IBM were not happy with my colleaguerCOs decision to use the TAB key,
    so they asked him to escalate the issue to his manager back in
    Redmond.rCY

    I donrCOt see any mention of what the IBM people were proposing to use
    instead.
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  • From scott@scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) to alt.folklore.computers on Wed May 6 21:40:59 2026
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    Lawrence =?iso-8859-13?q?D=FFOliveiro?= <ldo@nz.invalid> writes:
    On Wed, 6 May 2026 15:43:58 -0500, Lynn McGuire wrote:

    rCLA dispute over the TAB key highlights a mismatch between Microsoft
    and IBM organizational structuresrCY by Raymond Chen
    https://devblogs.microsoft.com/oldnewthing/20260505-00/?p=112298

    rCLA colleague recalls that while he was assigned to the IBM offices
    in Boca Raton, Florida, there was a dispute over what key should be
    used to move from one field to another in dialog boxes. The folks at
    IBM were not happy with my colleaguerCOs decision to use the TAB key,
    so they asked him to escalate the issue to his manager back in
    Redmond.rCY

    I donrCOt see any mention of what the IBM people were proposing to use >instead.

    I doubt the veracity of the original story. The tab key was widely used
    in mainframe video terminals as "advance to next field" in the 1970s, including Burroughs.

    IBM was often in love with odd ideas *cough*JCL, CHS, et cetera, but that whole upper
    VP story smells apocryphal regardless of the source.
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  • From Dan Espen@dan1espen@gmail.com to alt.folklore.computers on Thu May 7 20:58:11 2026
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    scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) writes:

    Lawrence =?iso-8859-13?q?D=FFOliveiro?= <ldo@nz.invalid> writes:
    On Wed, 6 May 2026 15:43:58 -0500, Lynn McGuire wrote:

    |ore4+oA dispute over the TAB key highlights a mismatch between Microsoft >>> and IBM organizational structures|ore4 by Raymond Chen
    https://devblogs.microsoft.com/oldnewthing/20260505-00/?p=112298

    |ore4+oA colleague recalls that while he was assigned to the IBM offices >>> in Boca Raton, Florida, there was a dispute over what key should be
    used to move from one field to another in dialog boxes. The folks at
    IBM were not happy with my colleague|ore4raos decision to use the TAB key, >>> so they asked him to escalate the issue to his manager back in
    Redmond.|ore4

    I don|ore4raot see any mention of what the IBM people were proposing to use >>instead.

    I doubt the veracity of the original story. The tab key was widely used
    in mainframe video terminals as "advance to next field" in the 1970s, including
    Burroughs.

    IBM was often in love with odd ideas *cough*JCL, CHS, et cetera, but that whole upper
    VP story smells apocryphal regardless of the source.

    I'm not sure what this is about but the IBM 5250 terminal used on System
    34 had a Field Exit key. It was something like a tab key but it did a
    bit more. It moved field to field, possibly right justifying what had
    been typed, verified check digits, and optionally if hit on the last
    field on the screen, it acted like an enter key.
    --
    Dan Espen
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