• Re: If you were to design a netnews protocol today...

    From oldernow@oldernow@dev.null to alt.fan.usenet on Tue Feb 24 15:42:47 2026
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    On 2024-08-07, Computer Nerd Kev <not@telling.you.invalid> wrote:

    This may be extremely pessimistic, but I
    now automatically expect any new discussion
    protocol/platform to be worse than NNTP/Usenet
    and not worth looking at. I'd just fear that any
    fragmentation due to an attempted incompatible
    NNTP replacement would only kill off the little
    activity still going on with Usenet.

    Ego: the self-referential cancer that eats itself
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  • From anthk@anthk@openbsd.home to comp.misc,alt.fan.usenet on Mon May 12 06:24:48 2025
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    On 2024-08-19, D <nospam@example.net> wrote:


    On Mon, 19 Aug 2024, Andy K. wrote:

    On Sat, 17 Aug 2024 21:43:50 +0200
    D wrote:

    On Sat, 17 Aug 2024, Andy K. wrote:

    On Wed, 7 Aug 2024 14:32:01 -0000 (UTC)
    George Musk wrote:

    Just a thought experiment:
    if you could/had to make something like a NNTP 2.0 (with no need for >>>>> backwards compatibility) and server and client software for it today, what
    would it be like?
    In terms of specifications, technologies used, user interface, etc.

    Not for nothing, but Secure Scuttlebutt is a pretty cool "next gen
    NNTP" option.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Secure_Scuttlebutt


    Long time since I heard about it, but doesn't it have scaling problems?

    Maybe, but mainly it has discoverability problem. Unless you already
    know a community you want to join, it's these days almost impossible
    to find some public server/group/whatever.

    It doesn't help that there are two concepts now - servers (old) and
    rooms (new), and there seems to be a different invite/join process for
    each.

    I love SSB conceptually, since it's basically like Usenet in its UUCP
    beginnings (nodes syncing among each other periodically), but it has
    teething problems.


    Ahh got it. Maybe time to bring those improvisational UUCP networks back
    to life then? Why opt for the copy, when you can get the original! ;)

    Just use NNCP instead of UUCP; they almost work the same as a backend.


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