In the novel, Leia reflects on her experiences with Darth Vader during the war, her capture aboard the Devastator, her interrogation, and being forced to witness the destruction of Alderaan. She remembers the hatred she carried for Vader, how that hatred became a source of strength just to survive what he put her through.
And then she thinks of him differently.
Not as Darth Vader.
But as her father.
The important detail here is that Leia already knows the truth.
She knows Vader was Anakin Skywalker. And that knowledge
didn't come from the galaxy, the New Republic,
or Imperial records. It came from Luke.
On 3/20/2026 11:14 AM, MummyChunk wrote:
In the novel, Leia reflects on her experiences with Darth Vader during
the war, her capture aboard the Devastator, her interrogation, and
being forced to witness the destruction of Alderaan. She remembers the
hatred she carried for Vader, how that hatred became a source of
strength just to survive what he put her through.
And then she thinks of him differently.
Not as Darth Vader.
But as her father.
The important detail here is that Leia already knows the truth. She
knows Vader was Anakin Skywalker. And that knowledge didn't come from
the galaxy, the New Republic, or Imperial records. It came from Luke.
Did she know about her brother after learning about her father? This is
even more interesting!! I think she didn't, because that would destroy
Yoda's effort to isolate her from Luke.
Did she know about her brother after learning about her father? This is
even more interesting!! I think she didn't, because that would destroy
Yoda's effort to isolate her from Luke.
Luke tells Leia that Vader is his father and that she is his sister in
the Ewok village in "Return of the Jedi", just before he goes up to the second Death Star to confront, and defeat, Vader. <https://www.youtube.com/shorts/V7e8ApUXgOY>
On 3/20/2026 1:21 PM, Your Name wrote:
Did she know about her brother after learning about her father? This is
even more interesting!! I think she didn't, because that would destroy
Yoda's effort to isolate her from Luke.
Luke tells Leia that Vader is his father and that she is his sister in
the Ewok village in "Return of the Jedi", just before he goes up to the
second Death Star to confront, and defeat, Vader.
<https://www.youtube.com/shorts/V7e8ApUXgOY>
Then how did Luke learn that Leia was his sister? Vader knew nothing
about his daughter, right? :)
On 2026-03-20 09:07:54 +0000, Mr. Man-wai Chang said:
On 3/20/2026 1:21 PM, Your Name wrote:
Did she know about her brother after learning about her father? This is >>>> even more interesting!! I think she didn't, because that would destroy >>>> Yoda's effort to isolate her from Luke.
Luke tells Leia that Vader is his father and that she is his sister in
the Ewok village in "Return of the Jedi", just before he goes up to the
second Death Star to confront, and defeat, Vader.
<https://www.youtube.com/shorts/V7e8ApUXgOY>
Then how did Luke learn that Leia was his sister? Vader knew nothing
about his daughter, right? :)
He worked it out from various small things (not all shown in the
movies), including Leia hearing his call for help when dangling below
Cloud City in "The Empire Strikes Back". Obi-Wan's Jedi ghost then
confirms it in "Return of the Jedi" before Luke talks to Leia ...
LUKE: I can't kill my own father.
BEN: Then the Emperor has already won. You were our only hope.
LUKE: Yoda spoke of another.
BEN: The other he spoke of is your twin sister.
LUKE: But I have no sister.
BEN: Hmm. To protect you both from the Emperor, you were hidden
from your father when you were born. The Emperor knew, as
I did, if Anakin were to have any offspring, they would be
a threat to him. That is the reason why your sister remains
safely anonymous.
LUKE: Leia! Leia's my sister.
BEN: Your insight serves you well. Bury your feelings deep down,
Luke. They do you credit. But they could be made to serve
the Emperor.
Luke looks into the distance, trying to comprehend all this.
He worked it out from various small things (not all shown in the
movies), including Leia hearing his call for help when dangling below
Cloud City in "The Empire Strikes Back". Obi-Wan's Jedi ghost then
confirms it in "Return of the Jedi" before Luke talks to Leia ...
LUKE: I can't kill my own father.
BEN: Then the Emperor has already won. You were our only hope.
LUKE: Yoda spoke of another.
BEN: The other he spoke of is your twin sister.
LUKE: But I have no sister.
BEN: Hmm. To protect you both from the Emperor, you were hidden
from your father when you were born. The Emperor knew, as
I did, if Anakin were to have any offspring, they would be
a threat to him. That is the reason why your sister remains
safely anonymous.
LUKE: Leia! Leia's my sister.
BEN: Your insight serves you well. Bury your feelings deep down,
Luke. They do you credit. But they could be made to serve
the Emperor.
Luke looks into the distance, trying to comprehend all this.
George Lucas was writing a new third trilogy (reportedly and stupidly starring a resurrected Darth Maul) when he sold the whole lot to Disney
... who then threw out his ideas and wrote their own even worse third trilogy, which was the lazy gender-swapped rehash of the original
trilogy that we ultimately ended up with on-screen.
On 3/21/2026 8:18 AM, Your Name wrote:
George Lucas was writing a new third trilogy (reportedly and stupidly
starring a resurrected Darth Maul) when he sold the whole lot to Disney
... who then threw out his ideas and wrote their own even worse third
trilogy, which was the lazy gender-swapped rehash of the original
trilogy that we ultimately ended up with on-screen.
No, Maul was indeed resurrected in The Clone Wars cartoon.
Savage Opress finds Spider Maul [4K HDR] - Star Wars: The Clone Wars - YouTube
<https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AZfwl5VK4Nc>
Star Wars the Clone Wars clip-Darth Mauls gets his new legs - YouTube <https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TeC_1mg8qwY>
Mother Talzin Repairs Maul's Mind [4K HDR] - Star Wars: The Clone Wars
- YouTube
<https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P34ytt2RPc8>
Your Name wrote:
On 2026-03-20 22:05:53 +0000, Your Name said:
On 2026-03-20 09:07:54 +0000, Mr. Man-wai Chang said:
On 3/20/2026 1:21 PM, Your Name wrote:
Did she know about her brother after learning about her father? This is
even more interesting!! I think she didn't, because that would destroy
Yoda's effort to isolate her from Luke.
Luke tells Leia that Vader is his father and that she is his sister in
the Ewok village in "Return of the Jedi", just before he goes up to the
second Death Star to confront, and defeat, Vader.
https://www.youtube.com/shorts/V7e8ApUXgOY
Then how did Luke learn that Leia was his sister? Vader knew nothing
about his daughter, right? :)
He worked it out from various small things (not all shown in the
movies), including Leia hearing his call for help when dangling below
Cloud City in "The Empire Strikes Back". Obi-Wan's Jedi ghost then
confirms it in "Return of the Jedi" before Luke talks to Leia ...
LUKE: I can't kill my own father.
BEN: Then the Emperor has already won. You were our only hope.
LUKE: Yoda spoke of another.
BEN: The other he spoke of is your twin sister.
LUKE: But I have no sister.
BEN: Hmm. To protect you both from the Emperor, you were hidden
from your father when you were born. The Emperor knew, as
I did, if Anakin were to have any offspring, they would be
a threat to him. That is the reason why your sister remains
safely anonymous.
LUKE: Leia! Leia's my sister.
BEN: Your insight serves you well. Bury your feelings deep down,
Luke. They do you credit. But they could be made to serve
the Emperor.
Luke looks into the distance, trying to comprehend all this.
Of course, originally Leia wasn't Luke's sister. George Lucas' original
vague story plan was for Luke to go in search of his sister on the
other side of the galaxy and together defeat the Emperoro as the third trilogy, but while writing "Return of the Jedi", much of that third
trilogy got squashed down and changed, so Leia became Luke's sister
instead.
George Lucas was writing a new third trilogy (reportedly and stupidly starring a resurrected Darth Maul) when he sold the whole lot to Disney
.... who then threw out his ideas and wrote their own even worse third trilogy, which was the lazy gender-swapped rehash of the original
trilogy that we ultimately ended up with on-screen.
Your Name wrote:
On 2026-03-20 22:05:53 +0000, Your Name said:
On 2026-03-20 09:07:54 +0000, Mr. Man-wai Chang said:
On 3/20/2026 1:21 PM, Your Name wrote:
Did she know about her brother after learning about her father? This is
even more interesting!! I think she didn't, because that would destroy
Yoda's effort to isolate her from Luke.
Luke tells Leia that Vader is his father and that she is his sister in
the Ewok village in "Return of the Jedi", just before he goes up to the
second Death Star to confront, and defeat, Vader.
https://www.youtube.com/shorts/V7e8ApUXgOY
Then how did Luke learn that Leia was his sister? Vader knew nothing
about his daughter, right? :)
He worked it out from various small things (not all shown in the
movies), including Leia hearing his call for help when dangling below
Cloud City in "The Empire Strikes Back". Obi-Wan's Jedi ghost then
confirms it in "Return of the Jedi" before Luke talks to Leia ...
LUKE: I can't kill my own father.
BEN: Then the Emperor has already won. You were our only hope.
LUKE: Yoda spoke of another.
BEN: The other he spoke of is your twin sister.
LUKE: But I have no sister.
BEN: Hmm. To protect you both from the Emperor, you were hidden
from your father when you were born. The Emperor knew, as
I did, if Anakin were to have any offspring, they would be
a threat to him. That is the reason why your sister remains
safely anonymous.
LUKE: Leia! Leia's my sister.
BEN: Your insight serves you well. Bury your feelings deep down,
Luke. They do you credit. But they could be made to serve
the Emperor.
Luke looks into the distance, trying to comprehend all this.
Of course, originally Leia wasn't Luke's sister. George Lucas' original
vague story plan was for Luke to go in search of his sister on the
other side of the galaxy and together defeat the Emperoro as the third
trilogy, but while writing "Return of the Jedi", much of that third
trilogy got squashed down and changed, so Leia became Luke's sister
instead.
George Lucas was writing a new third trilogy (reportedly and stupidly
starring a resurrected Darth Maul) when he sold the whole lot to Disney
.... who then threw out his ideas and wrote their own even worse third
trilogy, which was the lazy gender-swapped rehash of the original
trilogy that we ultimately ended up with on-screen.
We could've had Darth Jar Jar
On 2026-03-21 03:04:07 +0000, MummyChunk said:
Your Name wrote:We could've had Darth Jar Jar
On 2026-03-20 22:05:53 +0000, Your Name said:
On 2026-03-20 09:07:54 +0000, Mr. Man-wai Chang said:Of course, originally Leia wasn't Luke's sister. George Lucas'
On 3/20/2026 1:21 PM, Your Name wrote:
Did she know about her brother after learning about her father?
This is
even more interesting!! I think she didn't, because that would destroy >>>> Yoda's effort to isolate her from Luke.
Luke tells Leia that Vader is his father and that she is his
sister in
the Ewok village in "Return of the Jedi", just before he goes up to the >>>> second Death Star to confront, and defeat, Vader.
https://www.youtube.com/shorts/V7e8ApUXgOY
Then how did Luke learn that Leia was his sister? Vader knew
nothing
about his daughter, right? :)
He worked it out from various small things (not all shown in the
movies), including Leia hearing his call for help when dangling below
Cloud City in "The Empire Strikes Back". Obi-Wan's Jedi ghost then
confirms it in "Return of the Jedi" before Luke talks to Leia ...
LUKE: I can't kill my own father.
BEN: Then the Emperor has already won. You were our only hope.
LUKE: Yoda spoke of another.
BEN: The other he spoke of is your twin sister.
LUKE: But I have no sister.
BEN: Hmm. To protect you both from the Emperor, you were hidden
from your father when you were born. The Emperor knew, as
I did, if Anakin were to have any offspring, they would be
a threat to him. That is the reason why your sister remains
safely anonymous.
LUKE: Leia! Leia's my sister.
BEN: Your insight serves you well. Bury your feelings deep down,
Luke. They do you credit. But they could be made to serve
the Emperor.
Luke looks into the distance, trying to comprehend all this.
original
vague story plan was for Luke to go in search of his sister on the
other side of the galaxy and together defeat the Emperoro as the third
trilogy, but while writing "Return of the Jedi", much of that third
trilogy got squashed down and changed, so Leia became Luke's sister
instead.
George Lucas was writing a new third trilogy (reportedly and
stupidly
starring a resurrected Darth Maul) when he sold the whole lot to Disney
.... who then threw out his ideas and wrote their own even worse third
trilogy, which was the lazy gender-swapped rehash of the original
trilogy that we ultimately ended up with on-screen.
At least Jar Jar hadn't died and been brought back (although he might
have in the novels and comic books, since I haven't read all of
those).
Maul isn't the only one brought back from the dead though. The Emperor
has also been resurrected in both the books / comics and Disney's
"Sequel Trilogy" ... mainly because they're too lazy and uncreative to
be able to come up with a new baddie (although, the novels did try
that for a while with a ridiculous alien species from another galaxy).
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