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On 6/11/2026 12:00 PM, James Nicoll wrote:

Safer Driving Through Science Fiction

Surely, issues like traffic jams, speeding, and road rage can be
solved through these creative strategies...

https://reactormag.com/safer-driving-through-science-fiction/

What about Heinlein's "The Roads Must Roll"?
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Roads_Must_Roll

Actual story at:

https://ia903201.us.archive.org/19/items/calibre_library_178.219.147.208/Robert%20A.%20Heinlein%20-%20The%20Roads%20Must%20Roll_4359.pdf

Lynn

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On Thu, 11 Jun 2026 18:22:45 -0500, Lynn McGuire wrote:

What about Heinlein's "The Roads Must Roll"?
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Roads_Must_Roll

But thatrCOs getting rid of vehicles entirely, and making the roads
themselves the transport mechanism.
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On Thu, 18 Jun 2026 04:24:33 -0000 (UTC), Lawrence D|Oliveiro
<ldo@nz.invalid> wrote:

On Thu, 11 Jun 2026 18:22:45 -0500, Lynn McGuire wrote:

What about Heinlein's "The Roads Must Roll"?
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Roads_Must_Roll

But thatAs getting rid of vehicles entirely, and making the roads
themselves the transport mechanism.

Which is an utterly *insane* idea.

At 0437 of the clock on a Sunday, when only Joe-Bob and his girly are
out watching the countryside roll by, you still need to drive a
hundred million tons of road to move them.

Instead of a large fraction of a ton of Macho-mobile.

Now, imagine living nearby to the roads. Traffic is hellish enough
without a city's worth of mass being rolled about.

Yes, thin strips that move a few pedestrians about inside an airport
or conveyor belts delivering parts to be assembled are marvelous
ideas, in small doses. There is no economy of scale in scaling this up
to gigatonnes of metal and rock rumbling and screaming about the
world.

It is idiocy.

Which means we don't let the Trumpanzee or UKland's Stammerer read
that story : *EVER*!

One of them might just think that it's a way to get to "Net Zero" in
the field of transportation. :)

Power the Roads from Sunshine! It's green!

Actually, Sol *is* "green". Her maximum amplitude of shininess is in
the green part of the visible spectrum. Just barely.

J.
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In article <110vru1$2bgdb$5@dont-email.me>,
Lawrence =?iso-8859-13?q?D=FFOliveiro?= <ldo@nz.invalid> wrote:

On Thu, 11 Jun 2026 18:22:45 -0500, Lynn McGuire wrote:

What about Heinlein's "The Roads Must Roll"?
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Roads_Must_Roll

But thatrCOs getting rid of vehicles entirely, and making the roads >themselves the transport mechanism.

WITH their own theme song! I support the creation of the BosWash Road City. --scott
--
"C'est un Nagra. C'est suisse, et tres, tres precis."
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On Thu, 18 Jun 2026 10:05:08 -0400 (EDT), Scott Dorsey wrote:

On Thu, 18 Jun 2026 04:24:33 -0000 (UTC), Lawrence DrCOOliveiro wrote:

On Thu, 11 Jun 2026 18:22:45 -0500, Lynn McGuire wrote:

What about Heinlein's "The Roads Must Roll"?
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Roads_Must_Roll

But thatrCOs getting rid of vehicles entirely, and making the roads
themselves the transport mechanism.

WITH their own theme song! I support the creation of the BosWash
Road City.

Kind of neat to have the concept of caf|-s and shops etc in the middle
express strip. Gives you something to do while waiting to get to your destination.

I canrCOt recall -- did he have any kind of barriers between different
regions of the road? IrCOm wondering how you keep it from getting too
windy in the faster parts. The central sections might even need to be completely enclosed.
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On 6/18/2026 7:17 PM, Lawrence DrCOOliveiro wrote:

On Thu, 18 Jun 2026 10:05:08 -0400 (EDT), Scott Dorsey wrote:

On Thu, 18 Jun 2026 04:24:33 -0000 (UTC), Lawrence DrCOOliveiro wrote:

On Thu, 11 Jun 2026 18:22:45 -0500, Lynn McGuire wrote:

What about Heinlein's "The Roads Must Roll"?
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Roads_Must_Roll

But thatrCOs getting rid of vehicles entirely, and making the roads
themselves the transport mechanism.

WITH their own theme song! I support the creation of the BosWash
Road City.

Kind of neat to have the concept of caf|-s and shops etc in the middle express strip. Gives you something to do while waiting to get to your destination.

I canrCOt recall -- did he have any kind of barriers between different regions of the road? IrCOm wondering how you keep it from getting too
windy in the faster parts. The central sections might even need to be completely enclosed.

Here's some very early footage from the Paris Exposition in the 1900.
They had a two-tier system running at the fair.

This clip's been tarted up a bit with sound and colorization, but
gives a flavor of such a system in use. The entire video is an
interesting look at a bygone era.

https://youtu.be/fo_eZuOTBNc?t=297

pt
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On Thu, 18 Jun 2026 19:28:24 -0400, Cryptoengineer wrote:

On 6/18/2026 7:17 PM, Lawrence DrCOOliveiro wrote:

Kind of neat to have the concept of caf|-s and shops etc in the
middle express strip. Gives you something to do while waiting to
get to your

Here's some very early footage from the Paris Exposition in the
1900. They had a two-tier system running at the fair.

Found 36 seconds of something at 4:58, that was about it.

Looks like the belt is made of segments that can rotate around a
vertical axis. Did it go around in a loop?

ThatrCOs how yourCOd want to construct a rolling roadway -- at least, the faster sections.
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In article <1111uuo$2v0ps$1@dont-email.me>,
Cryptoengineer <petertrei@gmail.com> wrote:

Here's some very early footage from the Paris Exposition in the 1900.
They had a two-tier system running at the fair.

This clip's been tarted up a bit with sound and colorization, but
gives a flavor of such a system in use. The entire video is an
interesting look at a bygone era.

https://youtu.be/fo_eZuOTBNc?t=297

"Finally, Youtube has recommended this video after 130 years..."
--
columbiaclosings.com
What's not in Columbia anymore..
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Cryptoengineer <petertrei@gmail.com> wrote:

Here's some very early footage from the Paris Exposition in the 1900.
They had a two-tier system running at the fair.

This clip's been tarted up a bit with sound and colorization, but
gives a flavor of such a system in use. The entire video is an
interesting look at a bygone era.

https://youtu.be/fo_eZuOTBNc?t=297

They steadied it nicely but the static damage to the film is very weirdly affected by the upsampling. The colorization is very artificial but inoffensive. This isn't a bad job at all.

The world would be better with moving sidewalks and the pneumo.
--scott
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"C'est un Nagra. C'est suisse, et tres, tres precis."
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On Thu, 11 Jun 2026 18:22:45 -0500, Lynn McGuire wrote:

What about Heinlein's "The Roads Must Roll"?
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Roads_Must_Roll

By the way, seems it wasnrCOt Heinlein who invented this idea.

H.G. Wells is one earlier reference, but not the only one ...

<http://www.technovelgy.com/ct/content.asp?Bnum=737>
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On 6/21/2026 6:18 PM, Lawrence DrCOOliveiro wrote:

On Thu, 11 Jun 2026 18:22:45 -0500, Lynn McGuire wrote:

What about Heinlein's "The Roads Must Roll"?
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Roads_Must_Roll

By the way, seems it wasnrCOt Heinlein who invented this idea.

H.G. Wells is one earlier reference, but not the only one ...

<http://www.technovelgy.com/ct/content.asp?Bnum=737>

Elsewhere I linked a 1900 film clip of people riding
such a system at the Paris Exposition.

pt
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On Mon, 22 Jun 2026 11:57:32 -0400, Cryptoengineer wrote:

On 6/21/2026 6:18 PM, Lawrence DrCOOliveiro wrote:

On Thu, 11 Jun 2026 18:22:45 -0500, Lynn McGuire wrote:

What about Heinlein's "The Roads Must Roll"?
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Roads_Must_Roll

By the way, seems it wasnrCOt Heinlein who invented this idea.

H.G. Wells is one earlier reference, but not the only one ...

<http://www.technovelgy.com/ct/content.asp?Bnum=737>

Elsewhere I linked a 1900 film clip of people riding such a system
at the Paris Exposition.

This goes way before that.
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