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On Thu, 27 Mar 2025 15:11:46 -0500, Lynn McGuire
<lynnmcguire5@gmail.com> wrote:

On 3/26/2025 5:05 PM, Lynn McGuire wrote:

https://grok.com/?q=did+robert+heinlein+invent+the+work+grok++%3F

odid robert heinlein invent the work grok ?o

"Yes, Robert A. Heinlein did invent the word "grok." He introduced it in
his 1961 science fiction novel Stranger in a Strange Land. In the book,
"grok" is a Martian word that roughly translates to understanding
something or someone deeply and intuitively, often implying a profound
empathy or connection. Heinlein created the term, and it has since
entered popular culture, even finding its way into some dictionaries due
to its widespread use. Pretty cool legacy for a writer, right?"

Way cool !

Lynn

I managed to crash grok with my next question which was not cool.

Did any planets disappear?
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Who evil spoke of everyone but God,
Giving as his excuse, 'I never knew him.'"
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On Fri, 28 Mar 2025 17:48:45 -0700, Dimensional Traveler
<dtravel@sonic.net> wrote:

On 3/27/2025 1:11 PM, Lynn McGuire wrote:

On 3/26/2025 5:05 PM, Lynn McGuire wrote:

https://grok.com/?q=did+robert+heinlein+invent+the+work+grok++%3F

odid robert heinlein invent the work grok ?o

"Yes, Robert A. Heinlein did invent the word "grok." He introduced it
in his 1961 science fiction novel Stranger in a Strange Land. In the
book, "grok" is a Martian word that roughly translates to
understanding something or someone deeply and intuitively, often
implying a profound empathy or connection. Heinlein created the term,
and it has since entered popular culture, even finding its way into
some dictionaries due to its widespread use. Pretty cool legacy for a
writer, right?"

Way cool !

Lynn

I managed to crash grok with my next question which was not cool.

Lynn

Well, if I have to have a cyberoverlord I suspect I'd prefer Grok
because Grok said Elon Musk is the #1 spreader of disinformation. :D

(Grok is the AI developed by one of Elon Musk's companies.)

It appears that even the WSJ is beginning to tire of the MAGA
nonsense. In particular, of the "false news" attacks.
And I've seen /critical/ articles from the Washington Examiner and
other usually-adulatory sources. All on the Win10 News Thingy, of
course.
At least, however, appears to feel that listing Dem's who are
associated with Signal in some way is somehow excusatory of the recent
leak (which is a lesser problem than the idiotic cover-up that lasted,
what, 24 hours before blowing up in the SecDef's face?).
This is all very entertaining.
--
"Here lies the Tuscan poet Aretino,
Who evil spoke of everyone but God,
Giving as his excuse, 'I never knew him.'"
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Cryptoengineer wrote:

Lets's stipulate thet playing with semantics over whether the info was 'classified', 'sensitive', 'war plans', 'battle plans', etc, is a red herring. This was very clearly info that if it reached the enemy before
the strikes, would have jeopardized the mission and put American
lives at risk: at very least the Houthis would have put their
air defense on high alert.

I don't believe you want operational material of this kind released even
after the strike. The timing and nature of the strikes will be of
interest to your enemies. Worse, however, are the comments which throw
a light on US intelligence sources in Yemen.

In the cold war we'd have paid dearly for this kind of intelligence on
the USSR.

*They were using Signal, which wasn't authorized for classified data.
That said, I think it probably *is* pretty damn secure. Known breaks
of signal aren't the underlying cryptography or protocols, but
user errors.

Worse yet, it's clear that they have commonly been using Signal.

*They were using Signal on their personal, unsecured phones, which may
very well have been hacked by enemy forces, even if Signal is perfectly secure. They're given secure phones for a reason.

One has to assume that all signal chats have been compromised, though as
they don't keep records we will never know just what was said in those
other chats - I doubt that even they do.

Goldberg has probably deprived the Russians, Chinese, and others of a
valuable source on American activities. He may have done more good for
America than everyone else on the chat in their entire careers. Give
that guy a medal.

William Hyde
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On Sat, 29 Mar 2025 14:45:55 -0400, Cryptoengineer
<petertrei@gmail.com> wrote:
<snippo excellent analysis of misusing Signal>

Back when I was working, I held a clearance. If I'd treated
classified info in this cavalier manner, I'd have gone to jail,
and I'd have deserved it.

As would I have. Theoretically, I suppose, I could /still/ say
something or other that would land me in jail.
But our /actually/ weaponized DOJ has (through the AG) stated that
there is /no/ intention of investigating this and bringing charges.
Well, at last report, anyway. We shall see.
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Who evil spoke of everyone but God,
Giving as his excuse, 'I never knew him.'"
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On Sat, 29 Mar 2025 14:16:10 -0500, Lynn McGuire
<lynnmcguire5@gmail.com> wrote:

On 3/29/2025 10:53 AM, Paul S Person wrote:

<snippo, Musk's AI was referenced announcing that Musk was the #1Liar>

At least, however, appears to feel that listing Dem's who are
associated with Signal in some way is somehow excusatory of the recent
leak (which is a lesser problem than the idiotic cover-up that lasted,
what, 24 hours before blowing up in the SecDef's face?).

This is all very entertaining.

Sigh. Is everything political with you ?

Well, you decided not to respond to my question (the first is you
writing):

I managed to crash grok with my next question which was not cool.

Did any planets disappear?
The point being that the original planet between Mars and Jupiter
/did/ disappear when the Martians fully groked it.
And /that's/ not political.
--
"Here lies the Tuscan poet Aretino,
Who evil spoke of everyone but God,
Giving as his excuse, 'I never knew him.'"
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On Sun, 30 Mar 2025 18:07:52 -0500, Lynn McGuire
<lynnmcguire5@gmail.com> wrote:

On 3/30/2025 10:48 AM, Paul S Person wrote:

On Sat, 29 Mar 2025 14:16:10 -0500, Lynn McGuire
<lynnmcguire5@gmail.com> wrote:

On 3/29/2025 10:53 AM, Paul S Person wrote:

<snippo, Musk's AI was referenced announcing that Musk was the #1Liar>

At least, however, appears to feel that listing Dem's who are
associated with Signal in some way is somehow excusatory of the recent >>>> leak (which is a lesser problem than the idiotic cover-up that lasted, >>>> what, 24 hours before blowing up in the SecDef's face?).

This is all very entertaining.

Sigh. Is everything political with you ?

Well, you decided not to respond to my question (the first is you
writing):

I managed to crash grok with my next question which was not cool.

Did any planets disappear?

The point being that the original planet between Mars and Jupiter
/did/ disappear when the Martians fully groked it.

And /that's/ not political.

That planet did not disappear. It was broken up. Now, there may be a >significant number of pieces missing as a number of astrophysicists are >noting that the mass of the asteroid belt seems to be less than an >appropriately sized planet.

The planet disappeared.
The matter it was composed of did not.
But, actually, saying it "was destroyed" would probably have been a
better idea.
I take it that crashing grok did not cause any similar ... incidents.
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"Here lies the Tuscan poet Aretino,
Who evil spoke of everyone but God,
Giving as his excuse, 'I never knew him.'"
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