• New photos show Apollo 11 and Apollo 12 moon landing sites.

    From a425couple@a425couple@hotmail.com to alt.astronomy,rec.aviation.military,alt.fan.heinlein on Sat Feb 15 20:23:34 2025
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    NASA Explore The Universe -+
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    To all flat-Earthers and moon landing skeptics:
    India's Chandrayaan-2 orbiter has captured detailed images of the Apollo
    11 and Apollo 12 moon landing sites. Efc#
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  • From Jim Wilkins@muratlanne@gmail.com to alt.astronomy,rec.aviation.military,alt.fan.heinlein on Sun Feb 16 07:38:01 2025
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    "a425couple" wrote in message news:aLdsP.231$Rpt8.125@fx33.iad...

    NASA Explore The Universe -+
    Sagittarius TV -+ -+
    To all flat-Earthers and moon landing skeptics:
    India's Chandrayaan-2 orbiter has captured detailed images of the Apollo
    11 and Apollo 12 moon landing sites. Efc#
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    When they argued in rec.aviation.military I was surprised by how much their "evidence" revealed stubborn ignorance of simple things on Earth, like parallel lines appearing to converge in the distance and a full moon
    obscuring nearby stars from view.

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  • From Kualinar@kuakinar@videotron.ca to alt.astronomy,rec.aviation.military,alt.fan.heinlein on Sun Feb 16 10:16:15 2025
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    Le 2025-02-16 |a 07:38, Jim Wilkins a |-crit-a:
    "a425couple"-a wrote in message news:aLdsP.231$Rpt8.125@fx33.iad...

    NASA Explore The Universe-a -+
    Sagittarius TV-a -+-a-a -+
    To all flat-Earthers and moon landing skeptics:
    India's Chandrayaan-2 orbiter has captured detailed images of the Apollo
    11 and Apollo 12 moon landing sites. Efc#
    ----------------------------------

    When they argued in rec.aviation.military I was surprised by how much
    their "evidence" revealed stubborn ignorance of simple things on Earth,
    like parallel lines appearing to converge in the distance and a full
    moon obscuring nearby stars from view.

    The -2evidences-+ from flat earthers falls within the followings :
    - nu hu
    - Looks flat to me
    - We can't know that (when talking about things that we know very well)
    - It don't understand, therefore, it's false/fake.
    - I can't feel the movement
    - We see to much
    - That's what They wan us to believe

    Often a mixture of those.
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  • From Jim Wilkins@muratlanne@gmail.com to alt.astronomy,rec.aviation.military,alt.fan.heinlein on Sun Feb 16 15:35:05 2025
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    "Kualinar" wrote in message news:vosvg0$l2tg$1@dont-email.me...

    Le 2025-02-16 |a 07:38, Jim Wilkins a |-crit :
    "a425couple" wrote in message news:aLdsP.231$Rpt8.125@fx33.iad...

    NASA Explore The Universe -+
    Sagittarius TV -+ -+
    To all flat-Earthers and moon landing skeptics:
    India's Chandrayaan-2 orbiter has captured detailed images of the Apollo
    11 and Apollo 12 moon landing sites. Efc#
    ----------------------------------

    When they argued in rec.aviation.military I was surprised by how much
    their "evidence" revealed stubborn ignorance of simple things on Earth,
    like parallel lines appearing to converge in the distance and a full moon obscuring nearby stars from view.

    The -2evidences-+ from flat earthers falls within the followings :
    - nu hu
    - Looks flat to me
    - We can't know that (when talking about things that we know very well)
    - It don't understand, therefore, it's false/fake.
    - I can't feel the movement
    - We see to much
    - That's what They wan us to believe

    Often a mixture of those.

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    I admit I was skeptical of European mayonnaise on French fries / chips / frites, but quickly accepted it.
    I still don't believe in Poutine.

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  • From John@Man@the.keyboard to alt.fan.heinlein on Mon Feb 17 00:15:03 2025
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    On Sun, 16 Feb 2025 15:35:05 -0500, "Jim Wilkins"
    <muratlanne@gmail.com> wrote:

    "Kualinar" wrote in message news:vosvg0$l2tg$1@dont-email.me...

    Le 2025-02-16 a 07:38, Jim Wilkins a ocrit :
    "a425couple" wrote in message news:aLdsP.231$Rpt8.125@fx33.iad...

    NASA Explore The Universe +
    Sagittarius TV + +
    To all flat-Earthers and moon landing skeptics:
    India's Chandrayaan-2 orbiter has captured detailed images of the Apollo
    11 and Apollo 12 moon landing sites. ?

    "Yes, yes, Mr. Galileo, I certainly do see the little lights off of
    the shoulder of Jupiter but I've never seen them with my own unaided
    eyes so they must be artefacts of your far-viewer's internals."

    There are those who would refuse to accept the reality of a Lunar
    landing even were we to transport them up there to allow them to touch
    the lonely, little machines.

    Then there are those who would never *understand* such ideas.



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    When they argued in rec.aviation.military I was surprised by how much
    their "evidence" revealed stubborn ignorance of simple things on Earth,
    like parallel lines appearing to converge in the distance
    and a full moon
    obscuring nearby stars from view.

    I don't see why this should be such a mystery. Our local star, Sol,
    blots out just about everything else in the sky apart from Venus and
    the Moon. While the Moon isn't quite so bright as Sol, she is very
    much brighter than any star or planet. One would expect the moonlight
    to wash out just about everything close to it in the sky, more so if
    the sky is misty or cloudy as then the moonlight would get spread out
    a bit more.


    The 2evidences+ from flat earthers falls within the followings :
    - nu hu
    - Looks flat to me

    I've never found any argument from limited experience to be
    convincing. Useful, yes. I never consider the curvature of the planet
    when travelling from city to nearby city or from my house to the local
    shops. I do, however, very much think about the curvature of the local topography. Hills take effort.

    - We can't know that (when talking about things that we know very well)

    My sister uses that one. She utterly dismisses my knowledge of things
    in favour of her opinions and feelings. She likes warm woo-woo over
    the cooler equations Science gives us.

    I sort of pity her at times.

    - It don't understand, therefore, it's false/fake.

    My sister uses that one, too.

    - I can't feel the movement

    But "The Doctor" can so it must be real.

    - We see to much
    - That's what They wan us to believe

    Of course it is because it is observed facts and the simplest models
    conceived to explain observed facts.


    Often a mixture of those.

    I think you forgot "Goddidit" or "Zetans did it".


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    I admit I was skeptical of European mayonnaise on French fries / chips / >frites, but quickly accepted it.

    Mayo is a slow, cumulative poison, sort of like lead but tasting far
    more vile. It is also a rather rapid emetic creating colourful
    projectile outflows.

    There will be carrots. I never eat carrots but if I accidentally
    ingest mayo there will be carrots. Over a large area.

    I still don't believe in Poutine.

    For years after we got one, I really didn't believe in colour TV.
    Then I learned how they work. Now I don't have to believe, I *know*.

    However, I know a lot about how aeroplanes work and I'm still rather
    skeptical when a bloody great *building* roars over me at a hundred
    metres or less. I'm even a little skeptical about birds. Sure, flying
    by waving your fingers is just swimming in a thinner fluid but birds
    look more like magic than Physics. Aeroplanes look like unsupported
    mountains of metal just waiting to experience unplanned lithospheric intersections as soon as Physics looks their way and notices how
    idiotic their positions are.

    Aeroplanes worry me. :)

    Strangely, rockets do not.

    J.
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  • From Kualinar@kuakinar@videotron.ca to alt.astronomy,rec.aviation.military,alt.fan.heinlein on Sun Feb 16 22:27:48 2025
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    Le 2025-02-16 |a 15:35, Jim Wilkins a |-crit-a:
    "Kualinar"-a wrote in message news:vosvg0$l2tg$1@dont-email.me...

    Le 2025-02-16 |a 07:38, Jim Wilkins a |-crit :
    "a425couple"-a wrote in message news:aLdsP.231$Rpt8.125@fx33.iad...

    NASA Explore The Universe-a -+
    Sagittarius TV-a -+-a-a -+
    To all flat-Earthers and moon landing skeptics:
    India's Chandrayaan-2 orbiter has captured detailed images of the Apollo
    11 and Apollo 12 moon landing sites. Efc#
    ----------------------------------

    When they argued in rec.aviation.military I was surprised by how much
    their "evidence" revealed stubborn ignorance of simple things on
    Earth, like parallel lines appearing to converge in the distance and a
    full moon obscuring nearby stars from view.

    The -2evidences-+ from flat earthers falls within the followings :
    - nu hu
    - Looks flat to me
    - We can't know that (when talking about things that we know very well)
    - It don't understand, therefore, it's false/fake.
    - I can't feel the movement
    - We see to much
    - That's what They wan us to believe

    Often a mixture of those.

    ------------------------------------------
    I admit I was skeptical of European mayonnaise on French fries / chips / frites, but quickly accepted it.
    I still don't believe in Poutine.

    You should try it. Poutine is delicious.
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  • From Jim Wilkins@muratlanne@gmail.com to alt.astronomy,rec.aviation.military,alt.fan.heinlein on Mon Feb 17 06:57:01 2025
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    "Kualinar" wrote in message news:vouabl$sc14$1@dont-email.me...
    Le 2025-02-16 |a 15:35, Jim Wilkins a |-crit :
    "Kualinar" wrote in message news:vosvg0$l2tg$1@dont-email.me...
    ... scientific disbelief ...

    I admit I was skeptical of European mayonnaise on French fries / chips / frites, but quickly accepted it.
    I still don't believe in Poutine.

    You should try it. Poutine is delicious.
    ----------------------------
    I have, maybe it was the cheese. I live in a somewhat Francophone area, the result of immigration from Quebec for jobs. Not that the Quebecois patois is actual French, like Dutch and Creole I first have to translate it to the
    major nation language, then to English.

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