• Imaginaries

    From Steve Hayes@hayesstw@telkomsa.net to alt.sci.sociology,alt.usage.english,alt.usage.english.neologisms,alt.english.usage,alt.christnet.theology on Sat Aug 1 11:15:11 2026
    From Newsgroup: alt.english.usage

    Can anyone give me a definition of "imaginaries"?

    I've just come across it in a book, and I recall coming across it in a
    book I was editing a couple of years ago. I made enquiries at the
    time, and thought I had made a not ofn it, but could not find my note.

    A websearch only brought up somthing about the square root of -1, and
    the contexts in which I have encountered it are not mathematical.

    It seems to be related to concept, conception, construction and
    similar terms, and I would like to know how it differs from them in
    its precise meaning.

    What would be the difference between, for example:

    Concepts like X
    and
    Imaginaries like X

    ???
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  • From Adam Funk@a24061@ducksburg.com to alt.sci.sociology,alt.usage.english,alt.usage.english.neologisms,alt.english.usage,alt.christnet.theology on Sat Aug 1 14:42:22 2026
    From Newsgroup: alt.english.usage

    On 2026-08-01, Steve Hayes wrote:

    Can anyone give me a definition of "imaginaries"?

    I've just come across it in a book, and I recall coming across it in a
    book I was editing a couple of years ago. I made enquiries at the
    time, and thought I had made a not ofn it, but could not find my note.

    A websearch only brought up somthing about the square root of -1, and
    the contexts in which I have encountered it are not mathematical.

    It seems to be related to concept, conception, construction and
    similar terms, and I would like to know how it differs from them in
    its precise meaning.

    What would be the difference between, for example:

    Concepts like X
    and
    Imaginaries like X


    What's the book, and can you give more context? (I'm intrigued.)
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  • From nospam@nospam@de-ster.demon.nl (J. J. Lodder) to alt.usage.english,alt.usage.english.neologisms,alt.english.usage on Sat Aug 1 23:27:00 2026
    From Newsgroup: alt.english.usage

    Steve Hayes <hayesstw@telkomsa.net> wrote:

    Can anyone give me a definition of "imaginaries"?

    Dear Steve, PLEASE don't start new newsgroups.

    On some servers, whatever you add to the Newsgroups: header
    gets included in the full group list,
    in this case the non-existent group

    alt.usage.english.neologisms

    There really is no need for it.
    Keeping AUE alive (without subgroups to divert posting volume)
    is the best we can hope for at present,

    Jan

    PS Fortunately Adam Funk the good sense, in replying to you,
    to add a Follow-Up To: alt.english.usage
    to kill off more postings to it.



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  • From Adam Funk@a24061@ducksburg.com to alt.english.usage on Sun Aug 2 18:27:10 2026
    From Newsgroup: alt.english.usage

    On 2026-08-01, J. J. Lodder wrote:

    PS Fortunately Adam Funk the good sense, in replying to you,
    to add a Follow-Up To: alt.english.usage
    to kill off more postings to it.


    To be fair, slrn reminds me to do that before sending the post ---
    otherwise, I'd probably forget.
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  • From Mr. Man-wai Chang@toylet.toylet@gmail.com to alt.sci.sociology,alt.usage.english,alt.usage.english.neologisms,alt.english.usage,alt.christnet.theology on Tue Aug 4 13:03:56 2026
    From Newsgroup: alt.english.usage

    On 8/1/2026 5:15 PM, Steve Hayes wrote:
    Can anyone give me a definition of "imaginaries"?

    Night vision? Ghosts? A.I.? :)

    How do you detect, describe &
    picutre imaginaries??
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  • From Mr. Man-wai Chang@toylet.toylet@gmail.com to alt.sci.sociology,alt.usage.english,alt.usage.english.neologisms,alt.english.usage,alt.christnet.theology on Tue Aug 4 13:04:54 2026
    From Newsgroup: alt.english.usage

    On 8/4/2026 1:03 PM, Mr. Man-wai Chang wrote:
    On 8/1/2026 5:15 PM, Steve Hayes wrote:
    Can anyone give me a definition of "imaginaries"?

    Night vision? Ghosts? A.I.? :)

    How do you detect, describe &
    picutre imaginaries??

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    @~@ Simplicity is Beauty! Remain silent! Drink, Blink, Stretch!
    / v \ May the Force and farces be with you! Live long and prosper!!
    /( _ )\ https://sites.google.com/site/changmw/
    ^ ^ https://github.com/changmw/changmw
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  • From Steve Hayes@hayesstw@telkomsa.net to alt.sci.sociology,alt.usage.english,alt.usage.english.neologism,alt.english.usage,alt.christnet.theology on Wed Aug 12 15:43:50 2026
    From Newsgroup: alt.english.usage

    On Sat, 01 Aug 2026 11:15:11 +0200, Steve Hayes
    <hayesstw@telkomsa.net> wrote:

    Can anyone give me a definition of "imaginaries"?

    I've just come across it in a book, and I recall coming across it in a
    book I was editing a couple of years ago. I made enquiries at the
    time, and thought I had made a not ofn it, but could not find my note.

    Thanks to all who replied (mainly in alt.usage.english, to which I
    have therefore set follow-ups) and pointed me to sources of more
    information.

    I've now found something that is possibly related -- Benedict Anderson
    used the term "imagined communities" primarily in relation to
    nationalism.

    For him the "nation" was a social construct, an imagined community
    whose members did not know each other.

    This helped me to understand another usage that has often puzzled me
    -- when people speak of people who have one characteristic in common
    as being a "community" -- for example "the deaf community", "the gay
    community" or "the white community".

    I have met gay people who hang out with other gay people, and so have
    formed what could be called "a gay community" (with the indefinite
    article), but they are not "the gay community".

    I have been classified as "white" in the sense of being part of the
    white population group, but I in no way see myself as being a member
    of any "white community", but no doubt there are some white
    supremacists who imagine that there is such a thing, and so it is an
    "imagined community", or perhaps just an "imaginary".
    --
    Steve Hayes from Tshwane, South Africa
    Web: http://www.khanya.org.za/stevesig.htm
    Blog: http://methodius.blogspot.com
    E-mail - see web page, or parse: shayes at dunelm full stop org full stop uk --- Synchronet 3.22a-Linux NewsLink 1.2