• Apotheosis vs Ascension

    From Mr. Man-wai Chang@toylet.toylet@gmail.com to alt.english.usage,alt.politics.org.fbi,alt.conspiracy on Fri Jun 26 00:48:28 2026
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    Are they very different?

    Is Jesus Christ an ascension or an apotheosis? :)

    Apotheosis - Wikipedia
    <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Apotheosis>

    ASCENSION in Traditional Chinese - Cambridge Dictionary <https://dictionary.cambridge.org/dictionary/english-chinese-traditional/ascension>
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  • From Mr. Man-wai Chang@toylet.toylet@gmail.com to alt.english.usage,alt.politics.org.fbi,alt.conspiracy,soc.culture.hongkong,alt.chinese.fengshui on Fri Jun 26 02:31:07 2026
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    Are they very different?

    Is Jesus Christ an ascension or an apotheosis? :)

    Apotheosis - Wikipedia
    <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Apotheosis>

    ASCENSION in Traditional Chinese - Cambridge Dictionary <https://dictionary.cambridge.org/dictionary/english-chinese-traditional/ascension>
    APOTHEOSIS in Traditional Chinese - Cambridge Dictionary <https://dictionary.cambridge.org/dictionary/english-chinese-traditional/apotheosis>

    DEIFY in Traditional Chinese - Cambridge Dictionary <https://dictionary.cambridge.org/dictionary/english-chinese-traditional/deify> --

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  • From Steve Hayes@hayesstw@telkomsa.net to alt.english.usage,alt.politics.org.fbi,alt.conspiracy,soc.culture.hongkong,alt.chinese.fengshui on Fri Jun 26 09:22:10 2026
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    On Fri, 26 Jun 2026 02:31:07 +0800, "Mr. Man-wai Chang" <toylet.toylet@gmail.com> wrote:


    Are they very different?

    Is Jesus Christ an ascension or an apotheosis? :)

    Yes, they differ both linguistically and theologically.

    To ascend means to rise, either literally (move physically further
    from the centre of the earth) or metaphorically, it rise to a higher
    position.

    Apotheosis means to become divine, godly or godlike.

    In Christian theology, and linguistically in descriptions, it means
    the former.

    The New Testament description uses the Greek word "porevome" which
    means to go away, to rise, to go up. And it is nothing like
    apotheosis.

    If you want to discuss it linguistically, carry on.

    If you want to discuss it theologically, rather go to another NG for theological discussions, but I will give you a little clue:\

    In Christian theology, the ascension of Jesus was not an apotheosis
    for Jesus, because in Christian theology was already divine before he descended.

    But it does imply apotheosis for his followers, as expressed in
    Christian hymns on the topic:

    Thou hast raised our human nature
    In the clouds to God's right hand;
    There we sit in heavenly places,
    There with Him in glory stand;
    Jesus reigns, adored by angels,
    Man with God is on the throne;
    Mighty Lord, in Thine ascension
    We by faith behold our own.

    <https://hymnary.org/hymn/HPAG1933/173>
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