• A split in spelling?

    From yoylelandGuy@nobody@invalid.invalid to alt.english.usage on Sun Jan 25 14:31:22 2026
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    Greetings,

    As you may be aware, there is a split in the spelling of the word newby/newbie; whilst newbie is the more commonly adopted one (especially beyond the Usenet sphere, although YMMV here) whereas newby is a rarer
    one. I have seen it in legitimate usage before, but I would like to know whether it is a form of regional split, platform-based split, or just
    personal preference. I think it is recognised universally however that
    the plural is always spelt newbies, and newby only can function in the singular. I may be wrong though, as I've not spent a while on the
    platform yet. Poetically, I myself am a newbie here. All input is much appreciated and I would like to hear what the community actually uses.
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  • From Anton Shepelev@anton.txt@gmail.moc to alt.english.usage on Sun Jan 25 18:06:49 2026
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    yoylelandGuy:

    As you may be aware, there is a split in the spelling of the
    word newby/newbie; whilst newbie is the more commonly adopted
    one (especially beyond the Usenet sphere, although YMMV here)
    whereas newby is a rarer one.

    IMHO, `newby' in the sense of `newbie' is simply wrong, because
    this noun-forming suffix is strictly -ie, eg.

    -- selfie (not selfy)
    -- groupie
    -- cookie
    -- movie
    -- reverie
    -- boatie
    -- bookie

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  • From yoylelandGuy@nobody@invalid.invalid to alt.english.usage on Sun Jan 25 15:15:51 2026
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    On 25/01/2026 15:06, Anton Shepelev wrote:


    IMHO, `newby' in the sense of `newbie' is simply wrong, because
    this noun-forming suffix is strictly -ie.


    Ah, that makes sense. It must be a rare form of the term since I've only
    seen one occurrence of that spelling before.


    Sylpheed 3.7.0 and Windows XP Pro SP3.


    Nice choice of software there. Anyways, best regards.
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  • From Anton Shepelev@anton.txt@gmail.moc to alt.english.usage on Mon Jan 26 01:02:17 2026
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    yoylelandGuy to Anton Shepelev:

    IMHO, `newby' in the sense of `newbie' is simply wrong,
    because this noun-forming suffix is strictly -ie, eg.

    Ah, that makes sense. It must be a rare form of the term
    since I've only seen one occurrence of that spelling before.

    Beare that often rare occurences are vulgar distortions that
    have failed supplant correct forms. For example, the abominable
    "different than/to" dates back the 17th century, but has always
    remaned a rarity. It is easy understand why it is wrong. One
    need only consider its origin from the verb /to differ/. To
    quote my own e-mail a week ago:


    to differ from -- different from
    to diverge from -- divergent from
    to depend (up)on -- dependent (up)on
    to attend (up)on -- attendant (up)on
    to coincide with -- coincident with
    &c.


    `different to' is obviously a vulgar error due rather to
    ignorance of the language, than love for it. It is not a
    genuine improvement or even a neutral change. In
    biological terms, it is a bad mutation.

    The word `Newby' looks like a toponym to me, similar to
    (A stop at) Willoughby.
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  • From Steve Hayes@hayesstw@telkomsa.net to alt.english.usage on Mon Jan 26 06:02:48 2026
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    On Sun, 25 Jan 2026 14:31:22 +0000, yoylelandGuy
    <nobody@invalid.invalid> wrote:

    Greetings,

    As you may be aware, there is a split in the spelling of the word >newby/newbie; whilst newbie is the more commonly adopted one (especially >beyond the Usenet sphere, although YMMV here) whereas newby is a rarer
    one. I have seen it in legitimate usage before, but I would like to know >whether it is a form of regional split, platform-based split, or just >personal preference. I think it is recognised universally however that
    the plural is always spelt newbies, and newby only can function in the >singular. I may be wrong though, as I've not spent a while on the
    platform yet. Poetically, I myself am a newbie here. All input is much >appreciated and I would like to hear what the community actually uses.

    I use "newbie".

    But what about "n00b"?
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  • From Sam Plusnet@not@home.com to alt.english.usage on Mon Jan 26 20:17:03 2026
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    On 26/01/2026 04:02, Steve Hayes wrote:
    On Sun, 25 Jan 2026 14:31:22 +0000, yoylelandGuy
    <nobody@invalid.invalid> wrote:

    Greetings,

    As you may be aware, there is a split in the spelling of the word
    newby/newbie; whilst newbie is the more commonly adopted one (especially
    beyond the Usenet sphere, although YMMV here) whereas newby is a rarer
    one. I have seen it in legitimate usage before, but I would like to know
    whether it is a form of regional split, platform-based split, or just
    personal preference. I think it is recognised universally however that
    the plural is always spelt newbies, and newby only can function in the
    singular. I may be wrong though, as I've not spent a while on the
    platform yet. Poetically, I myself am a newbie here. All input is much
    appreciated and I would like to hear what the community actually uses.

    I use "newbie".

    But what about "n00b"?

    Hmm. Do dictionaries include head words containing non-alphabetic
    characters?
    If not, should they?
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