From Newsgroup: alt.dreams

Borders:
Occasionally (more like "Often") I'll arise from bed somewhere around dawn (# 30
minutes to an hour) and will move to the larger couch in order to {meditate, plan my day, pray} which most often results in a simple dream of some type.

This morning, the dream evolved into something with much deeper (as well as higher) meaning: "I" (the dreamer) dreamt of elements of the (American) Civil War (google.com/search?q=American+Civil+War) which occurred back in 1861-1865, but it started out as something in a contemporary setting, involving geographical "water sheds" and topographical elements, such as how pioneers would define borders of territory (personal, county, regional) which would, naturally, involve bodies of water (springs, creeks, rivers, lakes) as well as hills, ridges, mountains, shorelines, which is how the view (the dream perspective) moved quickly from a local setting (a rural yard, Rutherford County, the Southeast) to where Sherman marched through Georgia (during the Civil War) presumably all the way to the "Gulf of Mexico" (now the "Gulf of America.")

The overall clarity of that dream clip (segment) resonates with Genesis 1:26,28
regarding "dominion" over the earth.

Nimrod:
"The dreamer" was being given a type of introductory tour of a facility similar
to a Dell customer service call center (which differs significantly from a Dell
Computers production plant.) There was an earlier moment when the dreamer left something akin to a notepad/printed materials behind, and was thus going from area to area empty-handed.

Eventually, the dreamer sat down at a deskspace/cubicle that had *something* (like a guide or cheat-sheet) tacked to the wall, while there was also a phone set and monitor station set up for recording case files (every call you make to
a *decent* call center generates a case file, wherein the service representative
documents (takes notes on) the call.)

The dreamer had been guided to that station by a female, presumably at supervisory or H.R. level, when the dreamer was asked a question, presumably a dry run on how the dreamer would answer such a call if it were to come into the
queue (where calls sit awaiting a representative to answer.)

The dreamer gave a type of answer that caused the female to give a blank look, such as [HOW COULD YOU give such an answer!] at which point the dreamer observed, *possibly* aloud, [That could be an H.R. issue if taken the wrong way/out of context.] (For whatever reason, that actual question/answer interchange has faded from waking memory, even though at the time, the dreamer felt it was a valid (perhaps "clever") answer.)

Somehow, this interchange caused the female supervisor to invoke a call to a higher authority of some kind, whereupon the setting became more like a company
meeting (where everyone of the grunts (reps) are present in order to absorb some
form of corporate/company training, similar to a high school pep rally.)

The dreamer sensed the lack of writing materials to take notes, so had to rely upon mentally paying attention instead.

In this group-like environment, there was a guy who seemed to be the M.C. (host)
of the meeting. He gave a bit of motivational talk, then asked a question *very
similar* to: "Are we infinite?"

The dreamer wasn't *acutely* focused on the speaker, but became more involved when two things happened, presumably in this order:

Scene A: The speaker confronted the dreamer over the alleged H.R. issue, presumably with the purpose of determining if the dreamer should be retained as
a valuable asset, or fired immediately as a "poor fit." The speaker (the "higher
authority") was basically Caucasian and had unfocused (fuzzy?) red hair (possibly curly) of perhaps 4"-6" in length.

There was something of an alpha male type challenge where some things were said
on both sides {he said|he said} wherein he *definitely* made some type of *verbal* threat / menacing gesture in the manner of [bow down or else] which resulted in a *chest-bumping* maneuver wherein the dreamer ("I") bumped back more assertively, figuratively bouncing him away from the dreamer's ("my") immediate presence.

Scene B: The red-haired speaker's voice was then heard in the manner one hears
someone using a microphone with a P.A. (public address / speaker) system in an auditorium. He was speaking along the lines of questioning the employees to think critically, presumably to motivate them toward higher performance levels.

At some point the speaker became oriented nearer to the dreamer, *similar* in perspective to a person (the dreamer) at a football game, down in front of the first row of spectator bleachers, with the speaker standing roughly near the 50
yard line, where someone would be if they were on the oval track surrounding the
football playing field yet still before the bleachers.

Again, the speaker brought up the question of "Are we infinite?"

At this point, the dreamer addressed the speaker directly: "Yes- in that Now is
the consequence of all past, and the cause of all future," (the speaker gave a questioning/quizzical look, to which the dreamer continued) "...as NOW is *always* NOW. *I AM* the consequence of all past and the cause of all future. Thus 'we are' as well, as we are all 'here now,' therefore 'we are infinite'" (with the word "we" referring to everyone listening.)

The speaker went away off to the dreamer's right (the speaker's left) with the feeling of going off to retrieve something. The dreamer had a vague thought that perhaps it was to fetch a prize of some sort, similar to a "spirit stick" at a high school pep rally, only for whatever reason the dreamer heard the word
"baby" somewhere in that vague thought.

The speaker returned, holding something shaped like a *very* large ham, wrapped
in something akin to a yellow rain coat material (what some might call a "slicker") and unwrapped it, presenting the contents to the dreamer (like a "prize.")

What the dreamer received was something with the appearance of a young child, similar to a *small* boy, perhaps around the age of 8 through 11, but with various "issues" regarding the "boy's" appearance:

The speaker described the "prize" as a meat package that had been kept in the refrigerator for some time, during which the speaker had been nibbling some of it on occasion. The speaker called it "Nimrod"
(see: google.com/search?q=Nimrod
with respect to Noah's great-grandson, as well as "hunter" as well as "fool," all from various reference points in history.)

"Nimrod's" left leg looked shredded, as if one could just reach down and pluck up a strip of muscle (like chicken, or possibly ham) although there was no bone
showing through.

The dreamer looked at the head/face of the object (of "Nimrod") and saw a humble
face, eyes, nose, mouth, and it was as if "Nimrod" was alive and sentient, but how that could be with the leg as shredded as it was kept the *idea* of "Nimrod"
actually being a "meat package" / novelty item / philosophy prize in place.

Just out of curiosity, the dreamer was checking the groin area, and it was also
in shreds and tatters, similar to the leg.

The dreamer asked the speaker if the speaker could "keep" it (him? "Nimrod") in
the fridge until the speaker was ready to leave, and "Nimrod" was placed back within the yellow slicker. As the speaker took Nimrod, the dream ended. Clarity
8 though 10, as the idea of "NOW" is from contemporary discussions I have shared
with others online in the recent past (year to two years or so.)

As a possible interpretation, it occurs to me that "Nimrod" showed damages / affliction *similar* to the consequence of my own brain damage: My left leg is
in constant waking pain (as if the sciatic nerve has been thirsting for neurotransmitters ever since the injury) so I'm wondering *if* "Nimrod" is somehow symbolic or related to my own self-image.

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