• Re: The future of Usenet (was Re: Attention Solar Penguin)

    From The True Melissa@thetruemelissa@gmail.com to rec.arts.drwho,alt.fan.usenet,alt.culture.usenet on Mon May 25 16:12:48 2026
    From Newsgroup: alt.culture.usenet

    Verily, in article <xn0pq7eolsvz69i000@post.eweka.nl>, did blueshirt@indigo.news deliver unto us this message:
    A lot of younger people are using Usenet... Usenet has seen
    record traffic year after year... it's not going downwards...
    people are [generally] just not using Usenet to discuss things
    on text newsgroups like RADW!

    Exactly. A lot of Usenet traffic is just binaries.


    We have an example on this very newsgroup of why a sane and
    sensible Doctor Who fan wouldn't leave a Facebook Group, Discord
    or Reddit to come here and join-in with the Doctor Who chat...
    well, what "Doctor Who" chat there is!

    The main reason would be to find sympatico people. On Reddit, for
    example, a user would risk being banned for saying that the Doctor
    shouldn't be a woman. People who hold minority views, or people who want
    those who hold minority views to be free to speak, might join the
    conversation if they knew about it.


    Plus, we have an active user base here that barely reaches
    double digits on a good day. We are doing rewatch sessions of
    the peak era of Doctor Who - the best there was... yet only four
    people can be bothered to join in... If THAT era of the show
    cannot get engagement, what can?

    Who knows it's happening? Only people who are already here know about
    it.


    You're better off subscribing to a proper Usenet service
    provider and downloading a TV show, movie or audiobook - you'll
    be doing more to keep Usenet alive by doing that than asking
    Dave Yadallee what he means by __(insert random inane misspelt
    sentence here)__ all the time. (And you will soon get tired of
    doing that!) And, at least you'll have something entertaining
    to watch or listen to! :)

    That won't inspire them to keep carrying the text groups, and the text
    groups are real Usenet. The binary groups attached to a network of
    people talking to each other.


    When we all pass, unfortunately RADW will die too...

    That's what I'd like to prevent.
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  • From doctor@doctor@doctor.nl2k.ab.ca (The Doctor) to rec.arts.drwho,alt.fan.usenet,alt.culture.usenet on Tue May 26 04:00:43 2026
    From Newsgroup: alt.culture.usenet

    In article <MPG.447e7747e57753e6989f14@news.eternal-september.org>,
    The True Melissa <thetruemelissa@gmail.com> wrote:
    Verily, in article <xn0pq7eolsvz69i000@post.eweka.nl>, did >blueshirt@indigo.news deliver unto us this message:
    A lot of younger people are using Usenet... Usenet has seen
    record traffic year after year... it's not going downwards...
    people are [generally] just not using Usenet to discuss things
    on text newsgroups like RADW!

    Exactly. A lot of Usenet traffic is just binaries.


    We have an example on this very newsgroup of why a sane and
    sensible Doctor Who fan wouldn't leave a Facebook Group, Discord
    or Reddit to come here and join-in with the Doctor Who chat...
    well, what "Doctor Who" chat there is!

    The main reason would be to find sympatico people. On Reddit, for
    example, a user would risk being banned for saying that the Doctor
    shouldn't be a woman. People who hold minority views, or people who want >those who hold minority views to be free to speak, might join the >conversation if they knew about it.


    Sympatico? Isn't that dead?


    Plus, we have an active user base here that barely reaches
    double digits on a good day. We are doing rewatch sessions of
    the peak era of Doctor Who - the best there was... yet only four
    people can be bothered to join in... If THAT era of the show
    cannot get engagement, what can?

    Who knows it's happening? Only people who are already here know about
    it.


    You're better off subscribing to a proper Usenet service
    provider and downloading a TV show, movie or audiobook - you'll
    be doing more to keep Usenet alive by doing that than asking
    Dave Yadallee what he means by __(insert random inane misspelt
    sentence here)__ all the time. (And you will soon get tired of
    doing that!) And, at least you'll have something entertaining
    to watch or listen to! :)

    That won't inspire them to keep carrying the text groups, and the text >groups are real Usenet. The binary groups attached to a network of
    people talking to each other.


    alt.binaries.drwho anyone?


    When we all pass, unfortunately RADW will die too...

    That's what I'd like to prevent.


    I join you.


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  • From Blueshirt@blueshirt@indigo.news to rec.arts.drwho,alt.fan.usenet,alt.culture.usenet on Tue May 26 07:55:07 2026
    From Newsgroup: alt.culture.usenet

    The True Melissa wrote:

    Verily, in article <xn0pq7eolsvz69i000@post.eweka.nl>, did blueshirt@indigo.news deliver unto us this message:

    A lot of younger people are using Usenet... Usenet has seen
    record traffic year after year... it's not going downwards...
    people are [generally] just not using Usenet to discuss
    things on text newsgroups like RADW!

    Exactly. A lot of Usenet traffic is just binaries.

    Correction: Most of Usenet traffic is binaries! We are very
    much in the minority here using Usenet for its intended
    purpose... discussion.

    We have an example on this very newsgroup of why a sane and
    sensible Doctor Who fan wouldn't leave a Facebook Group,
    Discord or Reddit to come here and join-in with the Doctor
    Who chat... well, what "Doctor Who" chat there is!

    The main reason would be to find sympatico people. On Reddit,
    for example, a user would risk being banned for saying that
    the Doctor shouldn't be a woman. People who hold minority
    views, or people who want those who hold minority views to be
    free to speak, might join the conversation if they knew about
    it.

    It's not about sympatico people it's more about the cess pit
    that RADW is nowadays... because of one person. I have got four
    or five Doctor Who fans (at least) to check out RADW over the
    past few years, and after lurking - or making one or two posts -
    they fucked off... because of one idiot and his trolling spam.

    You will come across Doctor Who fans on other newsgroups that
    just won't come here. RADW is not unknown in fandom.

    You can lead a horse to water...

    Plus, we have an active user base here that barely reaches
    double digits on a good day. We are doing rewatch sessions of
    the peak era of Doctor Who - the best there was... yet only
    four people can be bothered to join in... If THAT era of the
    show cannot get engagement, what can?

    Who knows it's happening? Only people who are already here
    know about it.

    And of those twenty-five to thirty people who appear on the
    monthly RADW stats lists - plus unknown lurkers - only four
    people are bothering to join in, and one of them is using a LLM
    bot to make his contribution.

    This is the top tier era of the show - ever, that we are
    discussing. And only four people can bother their arse making a
    contribution.

    You're better off subscribing to a proper Usenet service
    provider and downloading a TV show, movie or audiobook -
    you'll be doing more to keep Usenet alive by doing that than
    asking Dave Yadallee what he means by __(insert random inane
    misspelt sentence here)__ all the time. (And you will soon
    get tired of doing that!) And, at least you'll have
    something entertaining to watch or listen to! :)

    That won't inspire them to keep carrying the text groups, and
    the text groups are real Usenet. The binary groups attached to
    a network of people talking to each other.

    To them traffic is traffic... if it's being used it's worth
    keeping, if it's not, they won't carry them.

    So use it or lose it.

    What you call 'proper' Usenet is sleepwalking it's way into
    oblivion.

    When we all pass, unfortunately RADW will die too...

    That's what I'd like to prevent.

    Sometimes the inevitable happens.
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  • From The True Melissa@thetruemelissa@gmail.com to rec.arts.drwho,alt.fan.usenet,alt.culture.usenet on Tue May 26 06:02:57 2026
    From Newsgroup: alt.culture.usenet

    Verily, in article <xn0pq8a7x6ypos3000@post.eweka.nl>, did blueshirt@indigo.news deliver unto us this message:

    The True Melissa wrote:

    Verily, in article <xn0pq7eolsvz69i000@post.eweka.nl>, did blueshirt@indigo.news deliver unto us this message:

    Exactly. A lot of Usenet traffic is just binaries.

    Correction: Most of Usenet traffic is binaries! We are very
    much in the minority here using Usenet for its intended
    purpose... discussion.

    That's the difficulty I'm addressing. The discussion's dying.


    It's not about sympatico people it's more about the cess pit
    that RADW is nowadays... because of one person. I have got four
    or five Doctor Who fans (at least) to check out RADW over the
    past few years, and after lurking - or making one or two posts -
    they fucked off... because of one idiot and his trolling spam.

    You will come across Doctor Who fans on other newsgroups that
    just won't come here. RADW is not unknown in fandom.

    What's the reason talk.philosphy.misc is now empty, then? Or
    misc.survivalism, or alt.personals? The person in question doesn't use
    any of those, and all of them were once very busy.

    IMO, the problem isn't a single person but that the spam years drove so
    many of the good people away. The silver lining is that most of the
    idjits also left. If we could attract more good people, we could have
    another heyday. :-\


    And of those twenty-five to thirty people who appear on the
    monthly RADW stats lists - plus unknown lurkers - only four
    people are bothering to join in, and one of them is using a LLM
    bot to make his contribution.

    This is the top tier era of the show - ever, that we are
    discussing. And only four people can bother their arse making a
    contribution.

    That's exactly why we need more people. It's normal for most people to
    lurk most of the time. If you want a dozen regular participants, you'll
    need a hundred or so total members.


    That won't inspire them to keep carrying the text groups, and
    the text groups are real Usenet. The binary groups attached to
    a network of people talking to each other.

    To them traffic is traffic... if it's being used it's worth
    keeping, if it's not, they won't carry them.

    So use it or lose it.

    What you call 'proper' Usenet is sleepwalking it's way into
    oblivion.

    Yes -- because there aren't enough people! That's exactly the problem
    I'd like to fix.
    --
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  • From Blueshirt@blueshirt@indigo.news to rec.arts.drwho,alt.fan.usenet,alt.culture.usenet on Tue May 26 11:23:03 2026
    From Newsgroup: alt.culture.usenet

    The True Melissa wrote:

    Verily, in article <xn0pq8a7x6ypos3000@post.eweka.nl>, did blueshirt@indigo.news deliver unto us this message:

    The True Melissa wrote:

    Verily, in article <xn0pq7eolsvz69i000@post.eweka.nl>, did blueshirt@indigo.news deliver unto us this message:

    Exactly. A lot of Usenet traffic is just binaries.

    Correction: Most of Usenet traffic is binaries! We are very
    much in the minority here using Usenet for its intended
    purpose... discussion.

    That's the difficulty I'm addressing. The discussion's dying.

    There's plenty of discussion [on RADW] if you don't mind the odd
    bible class every now and again.

    Deciphering some of the gobbledygook can be quite challenging
    too...

    It's not about sympatico people it's more about the cess pit
    that RADW is nowadays... because of one person. I have got
    four or five Doctor Who fans (at least) to check out RADW
    over the past few years, and after lurking - or making one
    or two posts - they fucked off... because of one idiot and
    his trolling spam.

    You will come across Doctor Who fans on other newsgroups that
    just won't come here. RADW is not unknown in fandom.

    What's the reason talk.philosphy.misc is now empty, then? Or misc.survivalism, or alt.personals? The person in question
    doesn't use any of those, and all of them were once very busy.

    Death comes as the end.

    IMO, the problem isn't a single person but that the spam years
    drove so many of the good people away. The silver lining is
    that most of the idjits also left. If we could attract more
    good people, we could have another heyday. :-\

    The problem on RADW is most definitely a single person! I have
    had plenty of DM's and e-mails over the years when I have tried
    to get people I know from other places to come here, and every
    single one of them gave the same reason....the nonsense posts,
    spam and trolling from a certain individual. Yads is infamous!

    To be fair, Tim Bruening was often mentioned as well, but the
    Google Groups disconnect in February 2024 stopped his spam in
    its tracks.

    And of those twenty-five to thirty people who appear on the
    monthly RADW stats lists - plus unknown lurkers - only four
    people are bothering to join in, and one of them is using a
    LLM bot to make his contribution.

    This is the top tier era of the show - ever, that we are
    discussing. And only four people can bother their arse
    making a contribution.

    That's exactly why we need more people. It's normal for most
    people to lurk most of the time. If you want a dozen regular
    participants, you'll need a hundred or so total members.

    You're flogging a dead horse. It's been tried.

    Do you want me to dig up the e-mails and messages from the
    Gallifrey Base / Divergent Universe regulars who I coaxed into
    trying this place out over the years?

    They came, they saw, they left again... every single one of them.

    That won't inspire them to keep carrying the text groups,
    and the text groups are real Usenet. The binary groups
    attached to a network of people talking to each other.

    To them traffic is traffic... if it's being used it's worth
    keeping, if it's not, they won't carry them.

    So use it or lose it.

    What you call 'proper' Usenet is sleepwalking it's way into
    oblivion.

    Yes -- because there aren't enough people! That's exactly the
    problem I'd like to fix.

    Go ahead. Do your best. The only way is up!
    --- Synchronet 3.22a-Linux NewsLink 1.2
  • From The True Melissa@thetruemelissa@gmail.com to rec.arts.drwho,alt.fan.usenet,alt.culture.usenet on Tue May 26 07:54:29 2026
    From Newsgroup: alt.culture.usenet

    Verily, in article <xn0pq8gbd76yl4x003@post.eweka.nl>, did blueshirt@indigo.news deliver unto us this message:
    You're flogging a dead horse. It's been tried.

    Do you want me to dig up the e-mails and messages from the
    Gallifrey Base / Divergent Universe regulars who I coaxed into
    trying this place out over the years?

    They came, they saw, they left again... every single one of them.

    No, I believe you. That's just one group, though.

    There are a fair number of people who are bummed about the death of
    Stack Exchange who doen't realize that Usenet is alive. Many of the
    refugees from the English forum would fit in well in alt.usage.english,
    if they knew about it.

    There are also Reddit users who are annoyed by all the bots and other
    diguised ads. Usenet's blessedly free of commercialism. It only stands
    to reason that some of them would like it.


    [quoted text muted]
    What you call 'proper' Usenet is sleepwalking it's way into
    oblivion.

    Yes -- because there aren't enough people! That's exactly the
    problem I'd like to fix.

    Go ahead. Do your best. The only way is up!

    Up where?

    I hope to start a free mesh some time in the next year. It will carry
    Usenet, and the mesh users will then know about it. That's my idea of
    up.
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  • From Blueshirt@blueshirt@indigo.news to rec.arts.drwho,alt.fan.usenet,alt.culture.usenet on Tue May 26 12:55:05 2026
    From Newsgroup: alt.culture.usenet

    The True Melissa wrote:

    There are a fair number of people who are bummed about
    the death of Stack Exchange who doen't realize that Usenet
    is alive. Many of the refugees from the English forum would
    fit in well in alt.usage.english, if they knew about it.

    Well get on with converting them then!

    Go into the world and preach the gospel of Usenet to everyone
    on the internet.

    And while you're at it, ask them if they like Doctor Who...

    ;-)

    There are also Reddit users who are annoyed by all the bots
    and other diguised ads. Usenet's blessedly free of
    commercialism. It only stands to reason that some of them
    would like it.

    You would think.

    If there's anyone reading this that uses Reddit - get over to
    the Doctor Who sub and tell everyone that rec.arts.drwho is
    still alive and open for business...

    or alt.drwho even!

    What you call 'proper' Usenet is sleepwalking it's way
    into oblivion.

    Yes -- because there aren't enough people! That's exactly
    the problem I'd like to fix.

    Go ahead. Do your best. The only way is up!

    Up where?

    Up from the four people contributing to AGA's Rewatch Parties!
    This is the peak of Tom Baker's era - it should be everyone's
    favourite years of the show... and if it's not, now is the
    perfect for them to tell us all why!!!
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  • From The True Melissa@thetruemelissa@gmail.com to rec.arts.drwho,alt.fan.usenet,alt.culture.usenet on Tue May 26 08:59:18 2026
    From Newsgroup: alt.culture.usenet

    Verily, in article <xn0pq8imxll39001@post.eweka.nl>, did
    blueshirt@indigo.news deliver unto us this message:
    If there's anyone reading this that uses Reddit - get over to
    the Doctor Who sub and tell everyone that rec.arts.drwho is
    still alive and open for business...

    or alt.drwho even!


    I tried. I was banned for "promotion."

    That's modern Reddit.
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  • From Blueshirt@blueshirt@indigo.news to rec.arts.drwho,alt.fan.usenet,alt.culture.usenet on Tue May 26 13:05:10 2026
    From Newsgroup: alt.culture.usenet

    The True Melissa wrote:

    Verily, in article <xn0pq8imxll39001@post.eweka.nl>, did blueshirt@indigo.news deliver unto us this message:
    If there's anyone reading this that uses Reddit - get
    over to the Doctor Who sub and tell everyone that
    rec.arts.drwho is still alive and open for business...

    or alt.drwho even!

    I tried. I was banned for "promotion."

    UPVOTE

    That's modern Reddit.

    DOWNVOTE
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  • From doctor@doctor@doctor.nl2k.ab.ca (The Doctor) to rec.arts.drwho,alt.fan.usenet,alt.culture.usenet on Tue May 26 13:48:35 2026
    From Newsgroup: alt.culture.usenet

    In article <xn0pq8a7x6ypos3000@post.eweka.nl>,
    Blueshirt <blueshirt@indigo.news> wrote:
    The True Melissa wrote:

    Verily, in article <xn0pq7eolsvz69i000@post.eweka.nl>, did
    blueshirt@indigo.news deliver unto us this message:

    A lot of younger people are using Usenet... Usenet has seen
    record traffic year after year... it's not going downwards...
    people are [generally] just not using Usenet to discuss
    things on text newsgroups like RADW!

    Exactly. A lot of Usenet traffic is just binaries.

    Correction: Most of Usenet traffic is binaries! We are very
    much in the minority here using Usenet for its intended
    purpose... discussion.


    alt.binaries is at a low.

    We have an example on this very newsgroup of why a sane and
    sensible Doctor Who fan wouldn't leave a Facebook Group,
    Discord or Reddit to come here and join-in with the Doctor
    Who chat... well, what "Doctor Who" chat there is!

    The main reason would be to find sympatico people. On Reddit,
    for example, a user would risk being banned for saying that
    the Doctor shouldn't be a woman. People who hold minority
    views, or people who want those who hold minority views to be
    free to speak, might join the conversation if they knew about
    it.

    It's not about sympatico people it's more about the cess pit
    that RADW is nowadays... because of one person. I have got four
    or five Doctor Who fans (at least) to check out RADW over the
    past few years, and after lurking - or making one or two posts -
    they fucked off... because of one idiot and his trolling spam.

    You will come across Doctor Who fans on other newsgroups that
    just won't come here. RADW is not unknown in fandom.

    You can lead a horse to water...


    Yeah! Yeah!!

    Plus, we have an active user base here that barely reaches
    double digits on a good day. We are doing rewatch sessions of
    the peak era of Doctor Who - the best there was... yet only
    four people can be bothered to join in... If THAT era of the
    show cannot get engagement, what can?

    Who knows it's happening? Only people who are already here
    know about it.

    And of those twenty-five to thirty people who appear on the
    monthly RADW stats lists - plus unknown lurkers - only four
    people are bothering to join in, and one of them is using a LLM
    bot to make his contribution.

    This is the top tier era of the show - ever, that we are
    discussing. And only four people can bother their arse making a
    contribution.


    or 6 at the moment.

    You're better off subscribing to a proper Usenet service
    provider and downloading a TV show, movie or audiobook -
    you'll be doing more to keep Usenet alive by doing that than
    asking Dave Yadallee what he means by __(insert random inane
    misspelt sentence here)__ all the time. (And you will soon
    get tired of doing that!) And, at least you'll have
    something entertaining to watch or listen to! :)

    That won't inspire them to keep carrying the text groups, and
    the text groups are real Usenet. The binary groups attached to
    a network of people talking to each other.

    To them traffic is traffic... if it's being used it's worth
    keeping, if it's not, they won't carry them.

    So use it or lose it.

    What you call 'proper' Usenet is sleepwalking it's way into
    oblivion.


    Well you have manipulators.

    When we all pass, unfortunately RADW will die too...

    That's what I'd like to prevent.

    Sometimes the inevitable happens.
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  • From doctor@doctor@doctor.nl2k.ab.ca (The Doctor) to rec.arts.drwho,alt.fan.usenet,alt.culture.usenet on Tue May 26 13:52:54 2026
    From Newsgroup: alt.culture.usenet

    In article <MPG.447f39dee2eb6718989f19@news.eternal-september.org>,
    The True Melissa <thetruemelissa@gmail.com> wrote:
    Verily, in article <xn0pq8a7x6ypos3000@post.eweka.nl>, did >blueshirt@indigo.news deliver unto us this message:

    The True Melissa wrote:

    Verily, in article <xn0pq7eolsvz69i000@post.eweka.nl>, did
    blueshirt@indigo.news deliver unto us this message:

    Exactly. A lot of Usenet traffic is just binaries.

    Correction: Most of Usenet traffic is binaries! We are very
    much in the minority here using Usenet for its intended
    purpose... discussion.

    That's the difficulty I'm addressing. The discussion's dying.


    There are some groups that relly are in contraversial domains.


    It's not about sympatico people it's more about the cess pit
    that RADW is nowadays... because of one person. I have got four
    or five Doctor Who fans (at least) to check out RADW over the
    past few years, and after lurking - or making one or two posts -
    they fucked off... because of one idiot and his trolling spam.

    You will come across Doctor Who fans on other newsgroups that
    just won't come here. RADW is not unknown in fandom.

    What's the reason talk.philosphy.misc is now empty, then? Or >misc.survivalism, or alt.personals? The person in question doesn't use
    any of those, and all of them were once very busy.

    IMO, the problem isn't a single person but that the spam years drove so
    many of the good people away. The silver lining is that most of the
    idjits also left. If we could attract more good people, we could have >another heyday. :-\


    Try can.politics, rec.sport.soccer or rec.sport.tennis.

    Then there is

    rec.arts.sf.written.


    And of those twenty-five to thirty people who appear on the
    monthly RADW stats lists - plus unknown lurkers - only four
    people are bothering to join in, and one of them is using a LLM
    bot to make his contribution.

    This is the top tier era of the show - ever, that we are
    discussing. And only four people can bother their arse making a
    contribution.

    That's exactly why we need more people. It's normal for most people to
    lurk most of the time. If you want a dozen regular participants, you'll
    need a hundred or so total members.


    Just jump in.


    That won't inspire them to keep carrying the text groups, and
    the text groups are real Usenet. The binary groups attached to
    a network of people talking to each other.

    To them traffic is traffic... if it's being used it's worth
    keeping, if it's not, they won't carry them.

    So use it or lose it.

    What you call 'proper' Usenet is sleepwalking it's way into
    oblivion.

    Yes -- because there aren't enough people! That's exactly the problem
    I'd like to fix.


    Awareness!


    --
    The True Melissa - Canal Winchester - Ohio
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  • From doctor@doctor@doctor.nl2k.ab.ca (The Doctor) to rec.arts.drwho,alt.fan.usenet,alt.culture.usenet on Tue May 26 13:56:32 2026
    From Newsgroup: alt.culture.usenet

    In article <xn0pq8gbd76yl4x003@post.eweka.nl>,
    Blueshirt <blueshirt@indigo.news> wrote:
    The True Melissa wrote:

    Verily, in article <xn0pq8a7x6ypos3000@post.eweka.nl>, did
    blueshirt@indigo.news deliver unto us this message:

    The True Melissa wrote:

    Verily, in article <xn0pq7eolsvz69i000@post.eweka.nl>, did
    blueshirt@indigo.news deliver unto us this message:

    Exactly. A lot of Usenet traffic is just binaries.

    Correction: Most of Usenet traffic is binaries! We are very
    much in the minority here using Usenet for its intended
    purpose... discussion.

    That's the difficulty I'm addressing. The discussion's dying.

    There's plenty of discussion [on RADW] if you don't mind the odd
    bible class every now and again.

    Deciphering some of the gobbledygook can be quite challenging
    too...


    As you are saying.

    It's not about sympatico people it's more about the cess pit
    that RADW is nowadays... because of one person. I have got
    four or five Doctor Who fans (at least) to check out RADW
    over the past few years, and after lurking - or making one
    or two posts - they fucked off... because of one idiot and
    his trolling spam.

    You will come across Doctor Who fans on other newsgroups that
    just won't come here. RADW is not unknown in fandom.

    What's the reason talk.philosphy.misc is now empty, then? Or
    misc.survivalism, or alt.personals? The person in question
    doesn't use any of those, and all of them were once very busy.

    Death comes as the end.

    IMO, the problem isn't a single person but that the spam years
    drove so many of the good people away. The silver lining is
    that most of the idjits also left. If we could attract more
    good people, we could have another heyday. :-\

    The problem on RADW is most definitely a single person! I have
    had plenty of DM's and e-mails over the years when I have tried
    to get people I know from other places to come here, and every
    single one of them gave the same reason....the nonsense posts,
    spam and trolling from a certain individual. Yads is infamous!


    Or they have tunnel vision.

    To be fair, Tim Bruening was often mentioned as well, but the
    Google Groups disconnect in February 2024 stopped his spam in
    its tracks.

    And he could not adapt non anything that was not Google.


    And of those twenty-five to thirty people who appear on the
    monthly RADW stats lists - plus unknown lurkers - only four
    people are bothering to join in, and one of them is using a
    LLM bot to make his contribution.

    This is the top tier era of the show - ever, that we are
    discussing. And only four people can bother their arse
    making a contribution.

    That's exactly why we need more people. It's normal for most
    people to lurk most of the time. If you want a dozen regular
    participants, you'll need a hundred or so total members.

    You're flogging a dead horse. It's been tried.

    Do you want me to dig up the e-mails and messages from the
    Gallifrey Base / Divergent Universe regulars who I coaxed into
    trying this place out over the years?

    They came, they saw, they left again... every single one of them.


    Closed minded for you.

    That won't inspire them to keep carrying the text groups,
    and the text groups are real Usenet. The binary groups
    attached to a network of people talking to each other.

    To them traffic is traffic... if it's being used it's worth
    keeping, if it's not, they won't carry them.

    So use it or lose it.

    What you call 'proper' Usenet is sleepwalking it's way into
    oblivion.

    Yes -- because there aren't enough people! That's exactly the
    problem I'd like to fix.

    Go ahead. Do your best. The only way is up!

    Ah! Yes!!
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  • From doctor@doctor@doctor.nl2k.ab.ca (The Doctor) to rec.arts.drwho,alt.fan.usenet,alt.culture.usenet on Tue May 26 13:58:07 2026
    From Newsgroup: alt.culture.usenet

    In article <MPG.447f5401e6a47d3d989f1c@news.eternal-september.org>,
    The True Melissa <thetruemelissa@gmail.com> wrote:
    Verily, in article <xn0pq8gbd76yl4x003@post.eweka.nl>, did >blueshirt@indigo.news deliver unto us this message:
    You're flogging a dead horse. It's been tried.

    Do you want me to dig up the e-mails and messages from the
    Gallifrey Base / Divergent Universe regulars who I coaxed into
    trying this place out over the years?

    They came, they saw, they left again... every single one of them.

    No, I believe you. That's just one group, though.

    There are a fair number of people who are bummed about the death of
    Stack Exchange who doen't realize that Usenet is alive. Many of the
    refugees from the English forum would fit in well in alt.usage.english,
    if they knew about it.

    There are also Reddit users who are annoyed by all the bots and other >diguised ads. Usenet's blessedly free of commercialism. It only stands
    to reason that some of them would like it.


    Herders of cattle for you.


    [quoted text muted]
    What you call 'proper' Usenet is sleepwalking it's way into
    oblivion.

    Yes -- because there aren't enough people! That's exactly the
    problem I'd like to fix.

    Go ahead. Do your best. The only way is up!

    Up where?

    I hope to start a free mesh some time in the next year. It will carry >Usenet, and the mesh users will then know about it. That's my idea of
    up.


    WEll about those setting up NNTP services.


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  • From doctor@doctor@doctor.nl2k.ab.ca (The Doctor) to rec.arts.drwho,alt.fan.usenet,alt.culture.usenet on Tue May 26 14:00:18 2026
    From Newsgroup: alt.culture.usenet

    In article <xn0pq8imxll39001@post.eweka.nl>,
    Blueshirt <blueshirt@indigo.news> wrote:
    The True Melissa wrote:

    There are a fair number of people who are bummed about
    the death of Stack Exchange who doen't realize that Usenet
    is alive. Many of the refugees from the English forum would
    fit in well in alt.usage.english, if they knew about it.

    Well get on with converting them then!

    Go into the world and preach the gospel of Usenet to everyone
    on the internet.

    And while you're at it, ask them if they like Doctor Who...

    ;-)

    There are also Reddit users who are annoyed by all the bots
    and other diguised ads. Usenet's blessedly free of
    commercialism. It only stands to reason that some of them
    would like it.

    You would think.

    If there's anyone reading this that uses Reddit - get over to
    the Doctor Who sub and tell everyone that rec.arts.drwho is
    still alive and open for business...

    or alt.drwho even!


    Get a description for alt.drwho .

    What you call 'proper' Usenet is sleepwalking it's way
    into oblivion.

    Yes -- because there aren't enough people! That's exactly
    the problem I'd like to fix.

    Go ahead. Do your best. The only way is up!

    Up where?

    Up from the four people contributing to AGA's Rewatch Parties!
    This is the peak of Tom Baker's era - it should be everyone's
    favourite years of the show... and if it's not, now is the
    perfect for them to tell us all why!!!
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  • From doctor@doctor@doctor.nl2k.ab.ca (The Doctor) to rec.arts.drwho,alt.fan.usenet,alt.culture.usenet on Tue May 26 14:00:38 2026
    From Newsgroup: alt.culture.usenet

    In article <MPG.447f63358f040d85989f1e@news.eternal-september.org>,
    The True Melissa <thetruemelissa@gmail.com> wrote:
    Verily, in article <xn0pq8imxll39001@post.eweka.nl>, did >blueshirt@indigo.news deliver unto us this message:
    If there's anyone reading this that uses Reddit - get over to
    the Doctor Who sub and tell everyone that rec.arts.drwho is
    still alive and open for business...

    or alt.drwho even!


    I tried. I was banned for "promotion."

    That's modern Reddit.


    Redsuck you mean.

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  • From doctor@doctor@doctor.nl2k.ab.ca (The Doctor) to rec.arts.drwho,alt.fan.usenet,alt.culture.usenet on Tue May 26 14:03:47 2026
    From Newsgroup: alt.culture.usenet

    In article <xn0pq8j3713x38003@post.eweka.nl>,
    Blueshirt <blueshirt@indigo.news> wrote:
    The True Melissa wrote:

    Verily, in article <xn0pq8imxll39001@post.eweka.nl>, did
    blueshirt@indigo.news deliver unto us this message:
    If there's anyone reading this that uses Reddit - get
    over to the Doctor Who sub and tell everyone that
    rec.arts.drwho is still alive and open for business...

    or alt.drwho even!

    I tried. I was banned for "promotion."

    UPVOTE

    That's modern Reddit.

    DOWNVOTE

    As you vote it!
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  • From Frank Slootweg@this@ddress.is.invalid to rec.arts.drwho,alt.fan.usenet,alt.culture.usenet on Tue May 26 18:16:54 2026
    From Newsgroup: alt.culture.usenet

    Blueshirt <blueshirt@indigo.news> wrote:
    [...]

    The problem on RADW is most definitely a single person! I have
    had plenty of DM's and e-mails over the years when I have tried
    to get people I know from other places to come here, and every
    single one of them gave the same reason....the nonsense posts,
    spam and trolling from a certain individual. Yads is infamous!

    If one doesn't have the time/patience/self control/<whatever> to
    filter posts mentally, then a newsreader with good filtering/scoring capablities can filter out posts from the 'trolls' *and* from people
    responding to those posts. That can make a group quite bearable,
    especially if filtering crossposts to troll-groups is added to the mix.

    Of course that means if anyone wants to introduce an outsider to
    Usenet, one should provide them with these tools and with instructions/ guidance on how to use them.

    As you can see from my 'User-Agent:' header, I use Hamster (a local
    'proxy' news server) and tin to do the job. There are several other
    options, for Windows and Linux (and probably also for Mac).

    news.software.readers is over there --->

    [...]
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  • From doctor@doctor@doctor.nl2k.ab.ca (The Doctor) to rec.arts.drwho,alt.fan.usenet,alt.culture.usenet on Tue May 26 23:37:56 2026
    From Newsgroup: alt.culture.usenet

    In article <10v4v39.u4g.1@ID-201911.user.individual.net>,
    Frank Slootweg <this@ddress.is.invalid> wrote:
    Blueshirt <blueshirt@indigo.news> wrote:
    [...]

    The problem on RADW is most definitely a single person! I have
    had plenty of DM's and e-mails over the years when I have tried
    to get people I know from other places to come here, and every
    single one of them gave the same reason....the nonsense posts,
    spam and trolling from a certain individual. Yads is infamous!

    If one doesn't have the time/patience/self control/<whatever> to
    filter posts mentally, then a newsreader with good filtering/scoring >capablities can filter out posts from the 'trolls' *and* from people >responding to those posts. That can make a group quite bearable,
    especially if filtering crossposts to troll-groups is added to the mix.

    Of course that means if anyone wants to introduce an outsider to
    Usenet, one should provide them with these tools and with instructions/ >guidance on how to use them.

    As you can see from my 'User-Agent:' header, I use Hamster (a local
    'proxy' news server) and tin to do the job. There are several other
    options, for Windows and Linux (and probably also for Mac).

    news.software.readers is over there --->

    [...]

    A good group.

    Care to try nn?
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  • From kludge@kludge@panix.com (Scott Dorsey) to rec.arts.drwho,alt.fan.usenet,alt.culture.usenet on Wed Jun 3 20:51:37 2026
    From Newsgroup: alt.culture.usenet

    Blueshirt <blueshirt@indigo.news> wrote:
    It's not about sympatico people it's more about the cess pit
    that RADW is nowadays... because of one person. I have got four
    or five Doctor Who fans (at least) to check out RADW over the
    past few years, and after lurking - or making one or two posts -
    they fucked off... because of one idiot and his trolling spam.

    This is true. And if this were 1990 or so, someone would have
    called that idiot's ISP up and he would have lost his NNTP
    service. Had he managed to get it somewhere else he would likely
    have lost it again (this process of getting and losing new
    accounts almost instantly is called "Carassoing").

    But we don't live in that world, and the net got to be too big
    for NNTP server managers and ISPs to police things. Then it
    got much smaller, but that personal service hasn't returned yet.

    That policing is part of what made Usenet great back then,
    even though it didn't seem like it at the time.

    You will come across Doctor Who fans on other newsgroups that
    just won't come here. RADW is not unknown in fandom.

    I just wish that particular idiot kept to RADW instead of leaking
    into other newsgroups.
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  • From Blueshirt@blueshirt@indigo.news to rec.arts.drwho,alt.fan.usenet,alt.culture.usenet on Thu Jun 4 08:31:49 2026
    From Newsgroup: alt.culture.usenet

    Scott Dorsey wrote:

    Blueshirt <blueshirt@indigo.news> wrote:

    It's not about sympatico people it's more about the
    cess pit that RADW is nowadays... because of one person.
    I have got four or five Doctor Who fans (at least) to
    check out RADW over the past few years, and after lurking -
    or making one or two posts - they fucked off... because of
    one idiot and his trolling spam.

    This is true. And if this were 1990 or so, someone would have
    called that idiot's ISP up and he would have lost his NNTP
    service.

    The only problem being... Yads runs his own NNTP server
    and internet service... so any complaints about his Usenet
    behaviour would be going straight to him!!!
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  • From doctor@doctor@doctor.nl2k.ab.ca (The Doctor) to rec.arts.drwho,alt.fan.usenet,alt.culture.usenet on Thu Jun 4 10:43:09 2026
    From Newsgroup: alt.culture.usenet

    In article <xn0pqmdib7bdc000@post.eweka.nl>,
    Blueshirt <blueshirt@indigo.news> wrote:
    Scott Dorsey wrote:

    Blueshirt <blueshirt@indigo.news> wrote:

    It's not about sympatico people it's more about the
    cess pit that RADW is nowadays... because of one person.
    I have got four or five Doctor Who fans (at least) to
    check out RADW over the past few years, and after lurking -
    or making one or two posts - they fucked off... because of
    one idiot and his trolling spam.

    This is true. And if this were 1990 or so, someone would have
    called that idiot's ISP up and he would have lost his NNTP
    service.

    The only problem being... Yads runs his own NNTP server
    and internet service... so any complaints about his Usenet
    behaviour would be going straight to him!!!

    I have running NNTP since aorund 1992/3 .
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  • From kludge@kludge@panix.com (Scott Dorsey) to rec.arts.drwho,alt.fan.usenet,alt.culture.usenet on Thu Jun 4 08:30:38 2026
    From Newsgroup: alt.culture.usenet

    Blueshirt <blueshirt@indigo.news> wrote:
    Scott Dorsey wrote:

    Blueshirt <blueshirt@indigo.news> wrote:

    It's not about sympatico people it's more about the
    cess pit that RADW is nowadays... because of one person.
    I have got four or five Doctor Who fans (at least) to
    check out RADW over the past few years, and after lurking -
    or making one or two posts - they fucked off... because of
    one idiot and his trolling spam.

    This is true. And if this were 1990 or so, someone would have
    called that idiot's ISP up and he would have lost his NNTP
    service.

    The only problem being... Yads runs his own NNTP server
    and internet service... so any complaints about his Usenet
    behaviour would be going straight to him!!!

    This is why messages have a path line in them... so you can complain to the site upstream of his. It's a distributed system but it's a transparent one. --scott
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  • From Blueshirt@blueshirt@indigo.news to rec.arts.drwho,alt.fan.usenet,alt.culture.usenet on Thu Jun 4 13:52:51 2026
    From Newsgroup: alt.culture.usenet

    Scott Dorsey wrote:

    Blueshirt <blueshirt@indigo.news> wrote:
    Scott Dorsey wrote:

    Blueshirt <blueshirt@indigo.news> wrote:

    It's not about sympatico people it's more about the
    cess pit that RADW is nowadays... because of one person.
    I have got four or five Doctor Who fans (at least) to
    check out RADW over the past few years, and after lurking
    or making one or two posts - they fucked off... because
    of one idiot and his trolling spam.

    This is true. And if this were 1990 or so, someone would
    have called that idiot's ISP up and he would have lost his
    NNTP service.

    The only problem being... Yads runs his own NNTP server
    and internet service... so any complaints about his Usenet
    behaviour would be going straight to him!!!

    This is why messages have a path line in them... so you can
    complain to the site upstream of his. It's a distributed
    system but it's a transparent one. --scott

    Generally the Admins would tell you to contact the system
    administrator of the source ISP for a post that has been
    reported for abuse... in this case; NetKnow Inc, Edmonton,
    Alberta, Canada.

    I'm sure back in the day (1990/2000's) some people on Usenet
    probably did try and calm Yads down by sending abuse reports...
    If they did, it doesn't seem to have had much effect on his ways.
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  • From doctor@doctor@doctor.nl2k.ab.ca (The Doctor) to rec.arts.drwho,alt.fan.usenet,alt.culture.usenet on Fri Jun 5 02:03:44 2026
    From Newsgroup: alt.culture.usenet

    In article <xn0pqmlvn8gjdf001@post.eweka.nl>,
    Blueshirt <blueshirt@indigo.news> wrote:
    Scott Dorsey wrote:

    Blueshirt <blueshirt@indigo.news> wrote:
    Scott Dorsey wrote:

    Blueshirt <blueshirt@indigo.news> wrote:

    It's not about sympatico people it's more about the
    cess pit that RADW is nowadays... because of one person.
    I have got four or five Doctor Who fans (at least) to
    check out RADW over the past few years, and after lurking
    or making one or two posts - they fucked off... because
    of one idiot and his trolling spam.

    This is true. And if this were 1990 or so, someone would
    have called that idiot's ISP up and he would have lost his
    NNTP service.

    The only problem being... Yads runs his own NNTP server
    and internet service... so any complaints about his Usenet
    behaviour would be going straight to him!!!

    This is why messages have a path line in them... so you can
    complain to the site upstream of his. It's a distributed
    system but it's a transparent one. --scott

    Generally the Admins would tell you to contact the system
    administrator of the source ISP for a post that has been
    reported for abuse... in this case; NetKnow Inc, Edmonton,
    Alberta, Canada.

    I'm sure back in the day (1990/2000's) some people on Usenet
    probably did try and calm Yads down by sending abuse reports...
    If they did, it doesn't seem to have had much effect on his ways.

    What abuse reports?
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