i just think that...-a-a if Usenet allowed a small image to be
-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a embedded in a post, its appeal would be so much Greater!
On 2/25/24 15:14, HenHanna wrote:
i just think that...-a-a if Usenet allowed a small image to be
-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a embedded in a post, its appeal would be so much
Greater!
Usenet is perfectly capable of conveying images, and other binary
content.
Many Usenet server administrators have made the choice to not carry
binary content on their servers.
If you want binary content, go use a different server. Binary content
is unwelcome on many servers.
Grant Taylor <gtaylor@tnetconsulting.net> wrote in news:urgusr$eq4$1@tncsrv09.home.tnetconsulting.net:
On 2/25/24 15:14, HenHanna wrote:
i just think that...???? if Usenet allowed a small image to be
?????????????????? embedded in a post, its appeal would be so much
Greater!
Usenet is perfectly capable of conveying images, and other binary
content.
Many Usenet server administrators have made the choice to not carry
binary content on their servers.
If you want binary content, go use a different server. Binary content
is unwelcome on many servers.
There's a big difference between encoding gigabyte videos into hundreds
of posts, and including a small picture or graphic *as part of a
message* just as one might do in an email. I think it would be very
helpful to allow the second more generally, with sensible limits on attachment size.
Shudder! I'm very happy with text only. Keeping binaries away I think
is a key element to a working usenet.
D <nospam@example.net> writes:
Shudder! I'm very happy with text only. Keeping binaries away I think
is a key element to a working usenet.
Yip. Let's keep Usenet as is.
But experiments with allowing more should happen.
There is no need to force all this into Usenet.
Maybe use mailing lists gated to NNTP?
Some if them[0] already allow much more.
Launch an own server?
Play with Cyrus-NNTP[1]?
There's a big difference between encoding gigabyte videos into hundreds
of posts, and including a small picture or graphic *as part of a
message* just as one might do in an email. I think it would be very
helpful to allow the second more generally, with sensible limits on >attachment size.
I want it all.
I want everything in the same frontend.
You can just post a Python program to /generate/ the binary.
For example:
with open( 'output202402261208430100ergahei_tmp_DML.bin', 'wb' )as sink:
sink.write( b'\00\01\02' )
. Now, one can run this Python program and will get the binary file
"output202402261208430100ergahei_tmp_DML.bin" with the three bytes
00, 01, and 02.
I want as many painfully difficult hoops to jump through as
necessary to discourage the descendents of marauding Eternal
September hoards from participating - yea, to the point of
rewinding USENET space to its pre- Eternal September
glory.... ;-)
I want as many painfully difficult hoops to jump through as
necessary to discourage the descendents of marauding Eternal
September hoards from participating - yea, to the point of
rewinding USENET space to its pre- Eternal September
glory.... ;-)
I feel your pain, but...
The current situation seems to have driven away most of the
well- intentioned users, while doing little to discourage
the spammers and cranks :-(
And regardless, your usenet client is free to implement some kind of graphics handling. The least you can do is to include a html link to a graphic if it is necessary.
Of course you then have the problem of how to respond to
illegal or objectionable images being posted, that needs
some thought.
D <nospam@example.net> wrote in news:92fdfc81-d367-3adb-58b6-88f3c5f6cd4d@example.net:
And regardless, your usenet client is free to implement some kind of
graphics handling. The least you can do is to include a html link to a
graphic if it is necessary.
That's not a bad idea. I might try to put that in the usenet web client I'm working on, once I get the basic functionality sorted out.
Of course you then have the problem of how to respond to illegal or objectionable images being posted, that needs some thought.
D <nospam@example.net> wrote in news:92fdfc81-d367-3adb-58b6-88f3c5f6cd4d@example.net:
And regardless, your usenet client is free to implement some kind of
graphics handling. The least you can do is to include a html link to a
graphic if it is necessary.
That's not a bad idea. I might try to put that in the usenet web client I'm working on, once I get the basic functionality sorted out.
Of course you then have the problem of how to respond to illegal or objectionable images being posted, that needs some thought.
On Mon, 26 Feb 2024, Colin Macleod wrote:
D <nospam@example.net> wrote in news:92fdfc81-d367-3adb-58b6-88f3c5f6cd4d@example.net:
And regardless, your usenet client is free to implement some kind of
graphics handling. The least you can do is to include a html link to a
graphic if it is necessary.
That's not a bad idea. I might try to put that in the usenet web client I'm working on, once I get the basic functionality sorted out.
Of course you then have the problem of how to respond to illegal or objectionable images being posted, that needs some thought.
Another question, since you seem to be one of the guys wise in the ways of (computer) science!
I wonder if you know of any software or script that syncs usenet messages from the server to Maildir?
The reason I am asking is that my newsreader works directly against the server, and only caches certain operations. It is fairly fast, but, I
would ideally like to be able to sync all the news groups I read to local disk
(in Maildir, since my email client (alpine) supports that) so that I can
read and respond to them offline, and then send them once I'm online.
I wonder if Maildir would be capable of "holding" the messages, or if that would just be trying to hammer the square peg through the round hole?
Best regards,
Daniel
D <nospam@example.net> wrote:
On Mon, 26 Feb 2024, Colin Macleod wrote:
D <nospam@example.net> wrote in
news:92fdfc81-d367-3adb-58b6-88f3c5f6cd4d@example.net:
And regardless, your usenet client is free to implement some kind of
graphics handling. The least you can do is to include a html link to a >>>> graphic if it is necessary.
That's not a bad idea. I might try to put that in the usenet web client I'm >>> working on, once I get the basic functionality sorted out.
Of course you then have the problem of how to respond to illegal or
objectionable images being posted, that needs some thought.
Another question, since you seem to be one of the guys wise in the ways of >> (computer) science!
I wonder if you know of any software or script that syncs usenet messages
from the server to Maildir?
The reason I am asking is that my newsreader works directly against the
server, and only caches certain operations. It is fairly fast, but, I
would ideally like to be able to sync all the news groups I read to local disk
(in Maildir, since my email client (alpine) supports that) so that I can
read and respond to them offline, and then send them once I'm online.
I wonder if Maildir would be capable of "holding" the messages, or if that >> would just be trying to hammer the square peg through the round hole?
Best regards,
Daniel
IMO it's more like reinventing the wheel.
Why not just use an offline newsreader?
On Mon, 26 Feb 2024, Colin Macleod wrote:
D <nospam@example.net> wrote in
news:92fdfc81-d367-3adb-58b6-88f3c5f6cd4d@example.net:
And regardless, your usenet client is free to implement some kind of
graphics handling. The least you can do is to include a html link to a
graphic if it is necessary.
That's not a bad idea. I might try to put that in the usenet web client I'm >> working on, once I get the basic functionality sorted out.
Of course you then have the problem of how to respond to illegal or
objectionable images being posted, that needs some thought.
Another question, since you seem to be one of the guys wise in the ways of (computer) science!
I wonder if you know of any software or script that syncs usenet messages from the server to Maildir?
The reason I am asking is that my newsreader works directly against the server, and only caches certain operations. It is fairly fast, but, I would ideally like to be able to sync all the news groups I read to local disk (in Maildir, since my email client (alpine) supports that) so that I can read and
respond to them offline, and then send them once I'm online.
I wonder if Maildir would be capable of "holding" the messages, or if that would just be trying to hammer the square peg through the round hole?
Best regards,
Daniel
On Mon, 26 Feb 2024, Sn!pe wrote:[...]
D <nospam@example.net> wrote:
The reason I am asking is that my newsreader works directly against the
server, and only caches certain operations. It is fairly fast, but, I
would ideally like to be able to sync all the news groups I read to
local disk (in Maildir, since my email client (alpine) supports that)
so that I can read and respond to them offline, and then send them once
I'm online.
I wonder if Maildir would be capable of "holding" the messages, or if
that would just be trying to hammer the square peg through the round
hole?
Best regards, Daniel
IMO it's more like reinventing the wheel.
Why not just use an offline newsreader?
Because I like my mail client and can use the same scripting
functionality, keys etc.
D <nospam@example.net> wrote:
On Mon, 26 Feb 2024, Sn!pe wrote:[...]
D <nospam@example.net> wrote:
The reason I am asking is that my newsreader works directly against the >>>> server, and only caches certain operations. It is fairly fast, but, I
would ideally like to be able to sync all the news groups I read to
local disk (in Maildir, since my email client (alpine) supports that)
so that I can read and respond to them offline, and then send them once >>>> I'm online.
I wonder if Maildir would be capable of "holding" the messages, or if
that would just be trying to hammer the square peg through the round
hole?
Best regards, Daniel
IMO it's more like reinventing the wheel.
Why not just use an offline newsreader?
Because I like my mail client and can use the same scripting
functionality, keys etc.
A perfectly valid reason. I'm wedded to my 'reader too.
I somtimes wonder how problematic this is? If you sit me
down in front of anything besides vim I don't know what
to do! ;)
On 2024-02-26, D <nospam@example.net> wrote:
I somtimes wonder how problematic this is? If you sit me
down in front of anything besides vim I don't know what
to do! ;)
Hmmm. Now you got me wondering if borrowing the code implementing
the aspects of slrn I actually use, and reworking it into whatever language(s) can be used to augment vim might lead to some glorious
one-stop typing ecstasy.... ;-)
Hmmm. Now you got me wondering if borrowing the code
implementing the aspects of slrn I actually use, and
reworking it into whatever language(s) can be used to
augment vim might lead to some glorious one-stop typing
ecstasy.... ;-)
Sounds plausible! But what would the wife say? ;)
In case you didn't already see it, have a look at leafnode.org.
It's a C codebase for acting as a news proxy/local server,
and I imagine that perhaps it could be a strong component
in such a glorious solution!
On 2024-02-26, D <nospam@example.net> wrote:
Hmmm. Now you got me wondering if borrowing the code
implementing the aspects of slrn I actually use, and
reworking it into whatever language(s) can be used to
augment vim might lead to some glorious one-stop typing
ecstasy.... ;-)
Sounds plausible! But what would the wife say? ;)
I've become pretty adept at being the tree that nearby others can't
hear falling in what they consider to be their woods. ;-)
In case you didn't already see it, have a look at leafnode.org.
Yeah, investigated it after your first mention. But I've been happy
with pointing slrn to news.eternal-september.org.
It's a C codebase for acting as a news proxy/local server,
and I imagine that perhaps it could be a strong component
in such a glorious solution!
That's too heavy in terms of what I want happening (more like *not* happening) on my Chromebook. But I appreciate your having brought it
to my attention!
There's a big difference between encoding gigabyte videos into
hundreds of posts, and including a small picture or graphic *as part
of a message* just as one might do in an email.
I think it would be very helpful to allow the second more generally,
with sensible limits on attachment size.
["Followup-To:" header set to news.software.readers.]
Well, slrnpull is lighter.
On 2/26/24 03:51, Colin Macleod wrote:
There's a big difference between encoding gigabyte videos into
hundreds of posts, and including a small picture or graphic *as part
of a message* just as one might do in an email.
There is and there isn't at the same time.
What differentiates someone from sending thousands of messages with 32
kB binary to make up the image from someone else that sends a 32 kB
graphic to discuss?
Grant Taylor <gtaylor@tnetconsulting.net> wrote in news:urgusr$eq4$1@tncsrv09.home.tnetconsulting.net:
On 2/25/24 15:14, HenHanna wrote:
i just think that...-a-a if Usenet allowed a small image to be
-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a embedded in a post, its appeal would be so much
Greater!
Usenet is perfectly capable of conveying images, and other binary
content.
Many Usenet server administrators have made the choice to not carry
binary content on their servers.
If you want binary content, go use a different server. Binary content
is unwelcome on many servers.
There's a big difference between encoding gigabyte videos into hundreds
of posts, and including a small picture or graphic *as part of a
message* just as one might do in an email. I think it would be very
helpful to allow the second more generally, with sensible limits on attachment size.
Grant Taylor <gtaylor@tnetconsulting.net> wrote in news:urgusr$eq4$1@tncsrv09.home.tnetconsulting.net:
On 2/25/24 15:14, HenHanna wrote:
i just think that...-a-a if Usenet allowed a small image to be
-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a embedded in a post, its appeal would be so much Greater!
Usenet is perfectly capable of conveying images, and other binary
content.
Many Usenet server administrators have made the choice to not carry
binary content on their servers.
If you want binary content, go use a different server. Binary content
is unwelcome on many servers.
There's a big difference between encoding gigabyte videos into hundreds
of posts, and including a small picture or graphic *as part of a
message* just as one might do in an email. I think it would be very helpful to allow the second more generally, with sensible limits on attachment size.
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