From Newsgroup: alt.config

For your newsgroups file:
alt.comp.software.thunderbird Community support of mail/news client.

CHARTER

A group for unofficial support of Thunderbird by the community of users, discussion will include configuration, add-ons and features in new
versions. Advertising and binaries and multipart postings with HTML alternative parts are off-topic.

JUSTIFICATION

Existing discussions of Thunderbird take place on the private nntp
server news.mozilla.org, the group mozilla.support.thunderbird had 3376 messages in the last 12 months. Unfortunately this server will be closed
down after 3rd April 2021.

Other available groups include alt.fan.mozilla (essentially dead in
recent years and doesn't separate topics between thunderbird and
seamonkey or firefox) plus a french language group alt.fr.outil.thunderbird
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From Newsgroup: alt.config

Andy Burns <usenet@andyburns.uk> wrote:

For your newsgroups file:
alt.comp.software.thunderbird Community support of mail/news client.

The syntax is correct.

Are you familiar with the syntax required of control message headers? If
you want me to check over the syntax, post your headers and I'll do
that.

Traditionally, one waits a week after proposing a newsgroup before
sending the newgroup message.

Good luck with promoting it.

CHARTER

A group for unofficial support of Thunderbird by the community of users, >discussion will include configuration, add-ons and features in new
versions. Advertising and binaries and multipart postings with HTML >alternative parts are off-topic.

Looks fine.

JUSTIFICATION

Existing discussions of Thunderbird take place on the private nntp
server news.mozilla.org, the group mozilla.support.thunderbird had 3376 >messages in the last 12 months. Unfortunately this server will be closed >down after 3rd April 2021.

Other available groups include alt.fan.mozilla (essentially dead in
recent years and doesn't separate topics between thunderbird and
seamonkey or firefox) plus a french language group alt.fr.outil.thunderbird

This is mainly for you to know where to promote the proposed group.
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Adam H. Kerman wrote:

Are you familiar with the syntax required of control message headers? If
you want me to check over the syntax, post your headers and I'll do
that.

I've read an article or two, probably <http://nylon.net/alt/#cmsg>

In the dim distant past I did get thunderbird posting to the scary devil monastery, so I think I know how to add extra headers ... I'll practice
in a test group first ...
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From Newsgroup: alt.config

Andy Burns <usenet@andyburns.uk> Wrote in message:r

... a french language group alt.fr.outil.thunderbird

Are you sure? I see alt.fr.outil.firefox on ES but not .thunderbird
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Dave Royal <dave@dave123royal.com> Wrote in message:r

Andy Burns <usenet@andyburns.uk> Wrote in message:r>... a french language group alt.fr.outil.thunderbirdAre you sure? I see alt.fr.outil.firefox on ES but not .thunderbird-- Remove numerics from email address

Hmmm. Newsreader bug I think.
It says 14 alt.fr.outil groups, but lists only 14 - down to .ruby...
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Dave Royal wrote:

Andy Burns wrote:

... a french language group alt.fr.outil.thunderbird

Are you sure? I see alt.fr.outil.firefox on ES but not .thunderbird

Yes, just double-checked, both available on NIN.

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Adam H. Kerman wrote:

Traditionally, one waits a week after proposing a newsgroup before
sending the newgroup message.

Good luck with promoting it.

Thanks, I've also proposed a seamonkey group as some users of the corresponding group on mozilla's servers have requested it, but I won't
be proposing any more groups.
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On Mon, 29 Mar 2021 08:43:07 +0100, Andy Burns wrote:

In the dim distant past I did get thunderbird posting to the scary devil monastery, so I think I know how to add extra headers ... I'll practice
in a test group first ...

Xnews enables you to add the extra header, as well as (Free) Forto
Agent.
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s|b
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s|b wrote:

Andy Burns wrote:

In the dim distant past I did get thunderbird posting to the scary devil
monastery, so I think I know how to add extra headers ... I'll practice
in a test group first ...

Xnews enables you to add the extra header, as well as (Free) Fort|-
Agent.

It seems that none of my news servers NIN, plusnet (rebadged giganews),
E-S allow sending control messages ... suggestions?


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Andy Burns wrote:

It seems that none of my news servers NIN, plusnet (rebadged giganews),
E-S allow sending control messages ... suggestions?

looking like the plusnet account actually does ...

I know a message with control: header won't show up as a normal message,
but is there any way to see them?

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Andy Burns <usenet@andyburns.uk> wrote:

It seems that none of my news servers NIN, plusnet (rebadged giganews),
E-S allow sending control messages ... suggestions?

Let Ray Banana know what you are trying to accomplish. Let him know that
you are being a responsible proponent and that you intend to publicize
the three groups till there are sustainable levels of discussion and
that even ahk in alt.config thinks you will make the effort to be a
serious proponent.

Any server that creates newsgroups in the control.* hierarchy will show
control messages received. Those aren't discussion groups, just groups
that archive control messages after the local server processed them.

AIOE has the control.* hierarchy last I looked.

See if you know someone with a personal News server. You may become a
user on that and send the newgroup message.

Neodome doesn't block third-party cancels (which Russ yells at him
about) so I don't see why he'd block newgroup messages, but go the
Neodome route only if you are desperate.

The purpose of the INN server at ftp.isc.org is to confirm that the
newgroup message was in correct syntax. If the Newsgroups file line is
correct, then the active and newsgroups files at that server will show
that the group was created locally at ftp.isc.org.

The archive of control messages will be updated if the sytax of the
Control header is correct but doesn't also check the syntax of the
Newsgroups file line.

Note: The author of the nylon.net FAQ didn't quite get everything right.
You put the group being created on the Newsgroups header. Yeah, I know
he says put alt.config on the header, but he didn't understand that
control messages don't propagate based on Newsgroups header.

My suggestion is that you post the headers of the control message in the
body of a followup article and just let me eyeball them before you send
the newgroup messages.
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Adam H. Kerman wrote:

Andy Burns <usenet@andyburns.uk> wrote:

It seems that none of my news servers NIN, plusnet (rebadged giganews),
E-S allow sending control messages ... suggestions?

Even though giganews say they don't allow control/approved messages, by experiment I've found the plusnet rebadged server certainly allows
approved, and seems to allow control (insofaras messages with a dubious control header get blackholed)

Let Ray Banana know what you are trying to accomplish.

yes I have to recreated an E-S account

Let him know that
you are being a responsible proponent and that you intend to publicize
the three groups till there are sustainable levels of discussion and
that even ahk in alt.config thinks you will make the effort to be a
serious proponent.

Any server that creates newsgroups in the control.* hierarchy will show control messages received. Those aren't discussion groups, just groups
that archive control messages after the local server processed them.

AIOE has the control.* hierarchy last I looked.

ok, I can see messages in control.newgroup

See if you know someone with a personal News server. You may become a
user on that and send the newgroup message.

Neodome doesn't block third-party cancels (which Russ yells at him
about) so I don't see why he'd block newgroup messages, but go the
Neodome route only if you are desperate.

The purpose of the INN server at ftp.isc.org is to confirm that the
newgroup message was in correct syntax. If the Newsgroups file line is correct, then the active and newsgroups files at that server will show
that the group was created locally at ftp.isc.org.

thanks

The archive of control messages will be updated if the sytax of the
Control header is correct but doesn't also check the syntax of the
Newsgroups file line.

Note: The author of the nylon.net FAQ didn't quite get everything right.
You put the group being created on the Newsgroups header.

ok

Yeah, I know
he says put alt.config on the header, but he didn't understand that
control messages don't propagate based on Newsgroups header.

My suggestion is that you post the headers of the control message in the
body of a followup article and just let me eyeball them before you send
the newgroup messages.

Will do ...

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From Newsgroup: alt.config

Adam H. Kerman <ahk@chinet.com> wrote:

Neodome doesn't block third-party cancels (which Russ yells at him
about) so I don't see why he'd block newgroup messages, but go the
Neodome route only if you are desperate.

No, all control messages are blocked on Neodome, cancels are exception.

However, if itrCOs for alt.* or free.* hierarchies I can send a newgroup message if someone canrCOt do it himself. I remember I did it once in the
past (and Adam Kerman yelled at me about it :-))
--
Neodome
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Neodome Admin wrote:

Adam H. Kerman wrote:

Neodome doesn't block third-party cancels (which Russ yells at him
about) so I don't see why he'd block newgroup messages, but go the
Neodome route only if you are desperate.

No, all control messages are blocked on Neodome, cancels are exception.

However, if itrCOs for alt.* or free.* hierarchies I can send a newgroup message if someone canrCOt do it himself. I remember I did it once in the past (and Adam Kerman yelled at me about it :-))

I think I'm sorted as far as a server that will allow me to send the
newgroup message, thanks.


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From Newsgroup: alt.config

Neodome Admin <admin@neodome.net> wrote:

Adam H. Kerman <ahk@chinet.com> wrote:

Neodome doesn't block third-party cancels (which Russ yells at him
about) so I don't see why he'd block newgroup messages, but go the
Neodome route only if you are desperate.

No, all control messages are blocked on Neodome, cancels are exception.

My error; I should have asked.

However, if it's for alt.* or free.* hierarchies I can send a newgroup >message if someone can't do it himself. I remember I did it once in the
past (and Adam Kerman yelled at me about it :-))

The proponent hadn't asked you to do it, which made it a proposal
hijacking. Proposal hijackings cause grief.
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From Newsgroup: alt.config

On Sun, 28 Mar 2021 23:52:04 +0100, Andy Burns wrote:

Advertising and binaries and multipart postings with HTML
alternative parts are off-topic.

'off-topic' or 'not allowed' ? There's a difference imho.
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s|b
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From Newsgroup: alt.config

Adam H. Kerman wrote:

My suggestion is that you post the headers of the control message in the
body of a followup article and just let me eyeball them before you send
the newgroup messages.

This is the Thunderbird control message from my drafts folder (the
Firefox and seaMonkey versions are essentially the same)

======================
From: Andy Burns <usenet@andyburns.uk>
Subject: cmsg newgroup alt.comp.software.thunderbird
Newsgroups: alt.comp.software.thunderbird
Date: Fri, 2 Apr 2021 11:50:36 +0100
User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 10.0; Win64; x64; rv:78.0)
Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/78.9.0
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed
Content-Language: en-GB
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit

For your newsgroups file:
alt.comp.software.thunderbird Community support of mail/news client.

CHARTER

A group for unofficial support of Thunderbird by the community of users, discussion will include configuration, add-ons and features in new
versions. The group will not be moderated. Advertising, binaries and multipart postings with HTML alternative parts are not permitted.

JUSTIFICATION

Existing discussions of Thunderbird take place on the private nntp
server news.mozilla.org, the group mozilla.support.thunderbird had 3376 messages in the last 12 months. Unfortunately this server will be closed
down after 3rd April

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From Newsgroup: alt.config

Andy Burns wrote:

For your newsgroups file:
alt.comp.software.thunderbird-a-a-a Community support of mail/news client.

Thunderbird seems to *love* replacing tabs by spaces :-(
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From Newsgroup: alt.config

Andy Burns wrote:

For your newsgroups file:
alt.comp.software.thunderbird Community support of mail/news client.

Thunderbird seems to *love* replacing tabs by spaces :-(

Actually that's happening when viewing, or replying to the message, on
sending it does keep tabs intact

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From Newsgroup: alt.config

On 02/04/21 12:05, Andy Burns wrote:

CHARTER

A group for unofficial support of Thunderbird by the community of users, discussion will include configuration, add-ons and features in new versions.-a The group will not be moderated.-a Advertising, binaries and multipart postings with HTML alternative parts are not permitted.

I would recommend a full stop, or at the very least a semi-colon, rather
than the comma between "users" and "discussion". A charter is pretty
well set in stone once the newgroup message goes out, so it is more
important to get everything right than in, for instance, the
justification (where a similar inappropriate comma appears).

JUSTIFICATION

Existing discussions of Thunderbird take place on the private nntp
server news.mozilla.org, the group mozilla.support.thunderbird had 3376 messages in the last 12 months. Unfortunately this server will be closed
down after 3rd April

--
Molly Mockford
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From Newsgroup: alt.config

Andy Burns <usenet@andyburns.uk> wrote:

Adam H. Kerman wrote:

My suggestion is that you post the headers of the control message in the >>body of a followup article and just let me eyeball them before you send
the newgroup messages.

This is the Thunderbird control message from my drafts folder (the
Firefox and seaMonkey versions are essentially the same)

======================
From: Andy Burns <usenet@andyburns.uk>
Subject: cmsg newgroup alt.comp.software.thunderbird

This is correct. It's the way very old Usenet servers required the
command to be sent. We still use it today to have something on Subject.

Your Control header is missing. It's not a control message without the
Control header.

Control: newgroup alt.comp.software.thunderbird

An Approved header is also required.

Approved: usenet@andyburns.uk

Newsgroups: alt.comp.software.thunderbird

This is correct.

Date: Fri, 2 Apr 2021 11:50:36 +0100
User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 10.0; Win64; x64; rv:78.0) >Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/78.9.0
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed
Content-Language: en-GB
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit

For your newsgroups file:
alt.comp.software.thunderbird Community support of mail/news client.

Hey! You got the tab character in there!

CHARTER

A group for unofficial support of Thunderbird by the community of users, >discussion will include configuration, add-ons and features in new
versions. The group will not be moderated. Advertising, binaries and >multipart postings with HTML alternative parts are not permitted.

JUSTIFICATION

Existing discussions of Thunderbird take place on the private nntp
server news.mozilla.org, the group mozilla.support.thunderbird had 3376 >messages in the last 12 months. Unfortunately this server will be closed
down after 3rd April

I strongly suggest that you do the traditional Justification of a 90 day lookback counting ONLY articles (not messages) that are the type of
discussion you want in the proposed group. This is your potential
audience, the people you are going to personally encourage to request
creation of the new group and to post in it. You don't look beyond 90
days because anyone else isn't an active participant any longer.

You are doing this for yourself, to know who the audience is.

A thread that consists of a root article reposting a Web page with no
followup isn't discussion and crossposts don't count as traffic for the
group you propose as they just don't justify the proposal for lack of uniqueness.
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Adam H. Kerman wrote:

Your Control header is missing.
An Approved header is also required.

They were in the message when I composed it, seems TB doesn't save them
in drafts, I can add them back before I hit send.

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Andy Burns <usenet@andyburns.uk> wrote:

Adam H. Kerman wrote:

Your Control header is missing.
An Approved header is also required.

They were in the message when I composed it, seems TB doesn't save them
in drafts, I can add them back before I hit send.

I did see the newgroup messages at AIOE in valid syntax.

Please hold off on requesting group creation locally. I saw that you
already made the request on eternal-september.

Ray Banana and other News administrators check the archive of control
messages at ftp.isc.org. You should have done that first to make sure
they got processed.

Russ's cron job that processes control messages, feeding them to INN at ftp.isc.org, runs every three hours. This is to thwart Hipcrime and
other denial-of-service attacks with massive numbers of control
messages.

That means it takes up to 6 hours to show up in the archives.

I know that the nylon.net FAQ recommends sending a booster newgroup
control message. Traditionally, the proponent waits a full week to do
this; that's not in the FAQ. Note that booster messages are useless
because there are nearly no News sites that allow automatic creation of
new groups in alt.* and free.* because of past denial of service
attacks and other types of abuse. Any News administrator running a
decent News site will check the archives and won't just process the
newgroup control message, the original or the booster.

The booster is useless but if you send it, wait a full week. Please
don't send further boosters.
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Adam H. Kerman <ahk@chinet.com> wrote:

I did see the newgroup messages at AIOE in valid syntax.

My server got the newgroup control messages too:

https://nnrp.alphanet.ch/newsgroup/alt.comp.software.thunderbird

However, the newsgroup is currently empty here.
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Adam H. Kerman wrote:

I did see the newgroup messages at AIOE in valid syntax.

Please hold off on requesting group creation locally. I saw that you
already made the request on eternal-september.

Ray Banana and other News administrators check the archive of control messages at ftp.isc.org. You should have done that first to make sure
they got processed.

I did check it, as you say they weren't gzipped there yet, but I could
see them in control.newgroup on E-S and figured Ray would trust his own
server ...


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Andy Burns <usenet@andyburns.uk> wrote:

Adam H. Kerman wrote:

I did see the newgroup messages at AIOE in valid syntax.

Please hold off on requesting group creation locally. I saw that you >>already made the request on eternal-september.

Ray Banana and other News administrators check the archive of control >>messages at ftp.isc.org. You should have done that first to make sure
they got processed.

I did check it, as you say they weren't gzipped there yet, but I could
see them in control.newgroup on E-S and figured Ray would trust his own >server ...

In the past, Ray and others have told us that they check the archive at ftp.isc.org. Control messages as received are unreliable.

Why?

Russ enforces a specific syntax that he has well documented in the
READMEs. If the control message gets archived, then it's both a valid
newgroup message AND the group name is valid. That the group name is valid
is the most important sanity check there is. If INN updates the active
and newsgroups files, then the newsgroups file line was in valid syntax.

If a News server has the control.* hierarchy set up, then control
messages appear that if they barely resemble control messages but cannot
be fed to ctrlinnd to create the newsgroup locally.

There are several examples of newgroup messages in bad syntax in control.newgroup.

Control messages in control.* groups are merely a local archive of News articles with Control and Approved headers, not control messages that
were processed and not control messages without syntax errors.
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Adam H. Kerman <ahk@chinet.com> wrote:

If a News server has the control.* hierarchy set up, then control
messages appear that if they barely resemble control messages but cannot
be fed to ctrlinnd to create the newsgroup locally.

In addition, if control.* groups aren't set to disallow posting, then
articles that merely have a control.* group on the Newsgroups header
will also show up. These are ordinary News articles and not control
messages at all!

That a control message was received at the server or an article shows up
on a control.* newsgroup is just not reliable because not all useful
syntax checks have been performed.
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Adam H. Kerman wrote:

Russ's cron job that processes control messages, feeding them to INN at ftp.isc.org, runs every three hours. This is to thwart Hipcrime and
other denial-of-service attacks with massive numbers of control
messages.

That means it takes up to 6 hours to show up in the archives.

The three messages are now on the ftp.isc.org server ...
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Andy Burns <usenet@andyburns.uk> wrote:

Adam H. Kerman wrote:

Russ's cron job that processes control messages, feeding them to INN at >>ftp.isc.org, runs every three hours. This is to thwart Hipcrime and
other denial-of-service attacks with massive numbers of control
messages.

That means it takes up to 6 hours to show up in the archives.

The three messages are now on the ftp.isc.org server ...

Yes, I see that now, but I'm also checking for updates to the active and newsgroups file, which haven't occurred. If I think of it, I'll look
later.

There are several News sites that check that the active and newsgroups
files were updated because they base their list of syntactically-correct
group names on groups that appear in those files, so please don't ask
people to start requesting creation of the three groups till the cron
job updates those files as well. I assume that will happen in a few
hours. The first job validates the control message and group name for archiving. The second job validates only control messages that passed
the first syntax checks for a correct newsgroups file line.
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On Wed, 31 Mar 2021 18:23:34 +0200, "s|b" <me@privacy.invalid>
scribbled:

On Sun, 28 Mar 2021 23:52:04 +0100, Andy Burns wrote:

Advertising and binaries and multipart postings with HTML
alternative parts are off-topic.

'off-topic' or 'not allowed' ? There's a difference imho.

There's no such thing as 'not allowed' in unmoderated froups. All you
can do is stamp your feet, shake your fist and type naughty words.
--
'What Profiteth It A Kingdom If The Oxen Be Deflated?'
Riddles II, v3
- T. Pratchett
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On 03/04/2021 03:17, -= Hawk =- wrote:

There's no such thing as 'not allowed' in unmoderated froups. All you
can do is stamp your feet, shake your fist and type naughty words.

It's good to wind some people if they can't use the filters in their newsgroups.-a It's not our problem to help people of low intelligence.-a
They should know that Alt is a rather special part of Usenet. It is
anarchic, i.e. anything goes in them.-a Users can filter the stuff they
don't like.-a It's quite simple actually if they use their brains that is designed for such purposes from inception to death.




--

With over 1.2 billion devices now running Windows 10, customer
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<p>It's good to wind some people if they can't use the filters in
their newsgroups.-a It's not our problem to help people of low
intelligence.-a They should know that Alt is a rather special part
of Usenet. It is anarchic, i.e. anything goes in them.-a Users can
filter the stuff they don't like.-a It's quite simple actually if
they use their brains that is designed for such purposes from
inception to death.</p>
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On Sat, 3 Apr 2021 03:47:06 +0100, ? Good Guy ?
<Hello.World@example.com> scribbled:

On 03/04/2021 03:17, -= Hawk =- wrote:

There's no such thing as 'not allowed' in unmoderated froups. All you
can do is stamp your feet, shake your fist and type naughty words.

It's good to wind some people if they can't use the filters in their >newsgroups.a It's not our problem to help people of low intelligence.a
They should know that Alt is a rather special part of Usenet. It is >anarchic, i.e. anything goes in them.a Users can filter the stuff they
don't like.a It's quite simple actually if they use their brains that is >designed for such purposes from inception to death.

Inclusive of fuckwits using HTML in a plain text forum.
--
'What Profiteth It A Kingdom If The Oxen Be Deflated?'
Riddles II, v3
- T. Pratchett
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With over 1.2 billion devices now running Windows 10, customer
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<div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 08/04/2021 18:00, -= Hawk =- wrote:<br>
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On Thu, 8 Apr 2021 18:29:25 +0100, ? Good Guy ? wrote:

mail-complaints-to="abuse@mixmin.net"

Lets see if this works.
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<p>Indeed.-a Inclusive of fuckwits &amp; people of low intelligence
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do is to cry like small babies about everything.<br>
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