• PROPOSAL: alt.binaries.scene.commodore64

    From Bixxis@joe@nowhere.net to alt.config on Mon Jun 19 22:32:44 2023
    From Newsgroup: alt.config

    alt.binaries.scene.commodore64 A repository for scene releases for the Commodore 64 line of microcomputers.

    CHARTER: alt.binaries.scene.commodore64 serves as a repository for modern releases (graphics, software, music, other platform tools) for the
    Commodore 64 line of microcomputers.

    The newsgroup is not moderated. Off-topic, spam, advertising, and non-
    binary posts are not permitted.

    JUSTIFICATION: The only available binaries group for the Commodore 64 line
    of microcomputers is (as of this writing) alt.binaries.warez.commodore64. Given that there are exceedingly few commercial releases for this platform
    at present, most scene releases are now considered "off topic" for that
    group. Most contemorary releases for this platform are from hobbyists and other non-commercial entities who release without license or with licenses that allow free distribution of the software; hence, "warez" is an inappropriate descriptor for this software. However, alt.binaries.scene.commodore64 will serve as a catch-all for contemorary releases (non-commercial or otherwise).

    AUDIENCE: Currently, there are 2 - 30 scene releases per day for the
    Commodore 64. A repository of these releases on Usenet as a decentralized
    mode of distribution will serve to provide these releases to those who
    wish to avoid the drama-fueled "scene" or who want to download these files
    in bulk.

    NOTE: This post is for documentation purposes only. Should there be any further discussion surrounding this group or this request, please keep it
    to questions regarding this request and not questions regarding the
    validity of the "scene," the validity of this line of computers, or a discussion of "warez," as they are not relevent to this request. I am interested in creating this group so I can automate uploads from several websites, IRC, and Telnet BBSes and am not looking to engage in any conversation beyond this.

    Thanks!

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  • From Adam H. Kerman@ahk@chinet.com to alt.config on Mon Jun 19 23:23:23 2023
    From Newsgroup: alt.config

    Bixxis <joe@nowhere.net> wrote:

    alt.binaries.scene.commodore64 A repository for scene releases for the >Commodore 64 line of microcomputers.

    Usenet is not a repository. Proponents have been told this in nearly
    every proposal going back decades. It's ignored.

    CHARTER: alt.binaries.scene.commodore64 serves as a repository for modern >releases (graphics, software, music, other platform tools) for the
    Commodore 64 line of microcomputers.

    What is wrong with the platforms on which this is already being
    released?

    The newsgroup is not moderated. Off-topic, spam, advertising, and non-
    binary posts are not permitted.

    Non-binary posts? That's new.

    Absolutely nothing in this proposal explains why "scene" is a
    third-level hierarchy. There is no such third-level hierarchy. Can't you
    look carefully at the list of newsgroup names to find the appropriate third-level hierarchy for this proposed newsgroup in which there are
    similar releases for other ancient computer platforms?

    JUSTIFICATION:

    None of this is justification. Justification has a specific meaning with respect to proposals in alt.*

    The only available binaries group for the Commodore 64 line
    of microcomputers is (as of this writing) alt.binaries.warez.commodore64.

    Given that there are exceedingly few commercial releases for this platform >at present, most scene releases are now considered "off topic" for that >group.

    Off topic in a warez group? What have you been smoking?

    Most contemorary releases for this platform are from hobbyists and
    other non-commercial entities who release without license or with licenses >that allow free distribution of the software; hence, "warez" is an >inappropriate descriptor for this software. However, >alt.binaries.scene.commodore64 will serve as a catch-all for contemorary >releases (non-commercial or otherwise).

    AUDIENCE: Currently, there are 2 - 30 scene releases per day for the >Commodore 64.

    That's not what the word "audience" means, and alt.* proposals do not
    have such a section.

    A repository

    Usenet is not a repository of any kind.

    of these releases on Usenet as a decentralized
    mode of distribution will serve to provide these releases to those who
    wish to avoid the drama-fueled "scene" or who want to download these files >in bulk.

    drama-fueled scene? What the fuck are you talking about? Are you even
    trying to make any sense? Is anything you've written appropriate for a
    proposal in any way?

    NOTE: This post is for documentation purposes only. Should there be any >further discussion surrounding this group or this request, please keep it
    to questions regarding this request and not questions regarding the
    validity of the "scene," the validity of this line of computers, or a >discussion of "warez," as they are not relevent to this request. I am >interested in creating this group so I can automate uploads from several >websites, IRC, and Telnet BBSes and am not looking to engage in any >conversation beyond this.

    But of course you are going to automate the bulk upload of stuff. I'm
    sure everybody wants it.

    You don't understand what "unmoderated" means either. If someone wishes
    to comment on your proposal or your understanding of the hobby, they can
    post whatever they damn well please in followup.
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