• New group creation proposal: alt.sci.selassociation

    From sel@sel@selroc.systems to alt.config on Thu Jun 3 10:04:20 2021
    From Newsgroup: alt.config

    For your newsgroups file:
    alt.sci.selassociation Community newsgroup for SEL Association member discussions and public participation.

    CHARTER:
    Discussions for SEL Association projects and plans.

    JUSTIFICATION:
    SEL Association is a new Italian association supporting science
    projects such as:

    - Propulsion Physics
    - Computer Science
    - Structural Engineering
    - Operative research
    - Robotics engineering
    - Energy Research
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  • From Adam H. Kerman@ahk@chinet.com to alt.config on Fri Jun 4 14:22:39 2021
    From Newsgroup: alt.config

    sel@selroc.systems wrote:

    For your newsgroups file:
    alt.sci.selassociation Community newsgroup for SEL Association member >discussions and public participation.

    You cannot have a line break. This has to be 79 characters or less. Drop
    all the trite words that aren't keywords.

    No one expects Italian language newsgroups to be in alt. But there are a
    few under alt.it.*

    You should really propose it in it.*

    An institutional newsgroup like this isn't really appropriate for
    Usenet. Can you show that the institution itself, as a topic, is widely discussed on Usenet? Is there a reason the institution's associates are
    going to communicate by Usenet and not a mailing list or something else?

    CHARTER:
    Discussions for SEL Association projects and plans.

    JUSTIFICATION:

    That's not justification.

    In justification, you count the number of articles in which SEL is
    discussed over a recent 90 day period. If there aren't a minimum of 10
    articles a day, the group will end up a barely used spamtrap.

    It's the job of you, the proponent, to promote the newsgroup to other
    Usenet users discussing the topic. Performing the justification informs
    you where and who these users are. Your job isn't finished till
    discussion in the newsgroup is at sustainable levels, a minimum of 10
    articles a day of discussion, not just announcements and press releases. Crossposts don't count either.

    SEL Association is a new Italian association supporting science
    projects such as:

    - Propulsion Physics
    - Computer Science
    - Structural Engineering
    - Operative research
    - Robotics engineering
    - Energy Research

    I can't believe all these topics would be discussed in one newsgroup
    versus newsgroups that already exist to discuss specific science and engineering topics.
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  • From Doctor Who@doc@tardis.org to alt.config on Fri Jun 4 16:41:16 2021
    From Newsgroup: alt.config

    On Fri, 4 Jun 2021 14:22:39 -0000 (UTC), "Adam H. Kerman"
    <ahk@chinet.com> wrote:

    sel@selroc.systems wrote:

    For your newsgroups file:
    alt.sci.selassociation Community newsgroup for SEL Association member >>discussions and public participation.

    You cannot have a line break. This has to be 79 characters or less. Drop
    all the trite words that aren't keywords.

    No one expects Italian language newsgroups to be in alt. But there are a
    few under alt.it.*

    You should really propose it in it.*

    An institutional newsgroup like this isn't really appropriate for
    Usenet. Can you show that the institution itself, as a topic, is widely >discussed on Usenet? Is there a reason the institution's associates are
    going to communicate by Usenet and not a mailing list or something else?

    CHARTER:
    Discussions for SEL Association projects and plans.

    JUSTIFICATION:

    That's not justification.

    In justification, you count the number of articles in which SEL is
    discussed over a recent 90 day period. If there aren't a minimum of 10 >articles a day, the group will end up a barely used spamtrap.

    It's the job of you, the proponent, to promote the newsgroup to other
    Usenet users discussing the topic. Performing the justification informs
    you where and who these users are. Your job isn't finished till
    discussion in the newsgroup is at sustainable levels, a minimum of 10 >articles a day of discussion, not just announcements and press releases. >Crossposts don't count either.

    SEL Association is a new Italian association supporting science
    projects such as:

    - Propulsion Physics
    - Computer Science
    - Structural Engineering
    - Operative research
    - Robotics engineering
    - Energy Research

    I can't believe all these topics would be discussed in one newsgroup
    versus newsgroups that already exist to discuss specific science and >engineering topics.


    Thank you for reaching out.
    I had anticipated that it would be difficult to get a usenet news
    group for the association, as such I have resorted to creating a
    public IRC channel, which is not so difficult to obtain.

    Regards.
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  • From Adam H. Kerman@ahk@chinet.com to alt.config on Fri Jun 4 17:35:14 2021
    From Newsgroup: alt.config

    Doctor Who <doc@tardis.org> wrote:
    On Fri, 4 Jun 2021 14:22:39 -0000 (UTC), "Adam H. Kerman"
    <ahk@chinet.com> wrote:

    sel@selroc.systems wrote:

    For your newsgroups file:
    alt.sci.selassociation Community newsgroup for SEL Association member >>>discussions and public participation.

    You cannot have a line break. This has to be 79 characters or less. Drop >>all the trite words that aren't keywords.

    No one expects Italian language newsgroups to be in alt. But there are a >>few under alt.it.*

    You should really propose it in it.*

    An institutional newsgroup like this isn't really appropriate for
    Usenet. Can you show that the institution itself, as a topic, is widely >>discussed on Usenet? Is there a reason the institution's associates are >>going to communicate by Usenet and not a mailing list or something else?

    CHARTER:
    Discussions for SEL Association projects and plans.

    JUSTIFICATION:

    That's not justification.

    In justification, you count the number of articles in which SEL is >>discussed over a recent 90 day period. If there aren't a minimum of 10 >>articles a day, the group will end up a barely used spamtrap.

    It's the job of you, the proponent, to promote the newsgroup to other >>Usenet users discussing the topic. Performing the justification informs
    you where and who these users are. Your job isn't finished till
    discussion in the newsgroup is at sustainable levels, a minimum of 10 >>articles a day of discussion, not just announcements and press releases. >>Crossposts don't count either.

    SEL Association is a new Italian association supporting science
    projects such as:

    - Propulsion Physics
    - Computer Science
    - Structural Engineering
    - Operative research
    - Robotics engineering
    - Energy Research

    I can't believe all these topics would be discussed in one newsgroup
    versus newsgroups that already exist to discuss specific science and >>engineering topics.


    Thank you for reaching out.
    I had anticipated that it would be difficult to get a usenet news
    group for the association, as such I have resorted to creating a
    public IRC channel, which is not so difficult to obtain.

    Regards.

    You morphed to a yads-like identity within the same thread? You can't be
    a good proponent if you're not known for discussing the topic.

    Quite frankly, as you had no interest in doing the hard work to get this
    group going, then yes, you're better off withdrawing the proposal. No one
    in alt.config can get you a newsgroup. We're not the proponent. You are.
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  • From sel@sel@selroc.systems to alt.config on Fri Jun 4 19:51:50 2021
    From Newsgroup: alt.config

    On Fri, 4 Jun 2021 17:35:14 -0000 (UTC), "Adam H. Kerman"
    <ahk@chinet.com> wrote:

    Doctor Who <doc@tardis.org> wrote:
    On Fri, 4 Jun 2021 14:22:39 -0000 (UTC), "Adam H. Kerman"
    <ahk@chinet.com> wrote:

    sel@selroc.systems wrote:

    For your newsgroups file:
    alt.sci.selassociation Community newsgroup for SEL Association member >>>>discussions and public participation.

    You cannot have a line break. This has to be 79 characters or less. Drop >>>all the trite words that aren't keywords.

    No one expects Italian language newsgroups to be in alt. But there are a >>>few under alt.it.*

    You should really propose it in it.*

    An institutional newsgroup like this isn't really appropriate for
    Usenet. Can you show that the institution itself, as a topic, is widely >>>discussed on Usenet? Is there a reason the institution's associates are >>>going to communicate by Usenet and not a mailing list or something else?

    CHARTER:
    Discussions for SEL Association projects and plans.

    JUSTIFICATION:

    That's not justification.

    In justification, you count the number of articles in which SEL is >>>discussed over a recent 90 day period. If there aren't a minimum of 10 >>>articles a day, the group will end up a barely used spamtrap.

    It's the job of you, the proponent, to promote the newsgroup to other >>>Usenet users discussing the topic. Performing the justification informs >>>you where and who these users are. Your job isn't finished till >>>discussion in the newsgroup is at sustainable levels, a minimum of 10 >>>articles a day of discussion, not just announcements and press releases. >>>Crossposts don't count either.

    SEL Association is a new Italian association supporting science >>>>projects such as:

    - Propulsion Physics
    - Computer Science
    - Structural Engineering
    - Operative research
    - Robotics engineering
    - Energy Research

    I can't believe all these topics would be discussed in one newsgroup >>>versus newsgroups that already exist to discuss specific science and >>>engineering topics.


    Thank you for reaching out.
    I had anticipated that it would be difficult to get a usenet news
    group for the association, as such I have resorted to creating a
    public IRC channel, which is not so difficult to obtain.

    Regards.

    You morphed to a yads-like identity within the same thread? You can't be
    a good proponent if you're not known for discussing the topic.

    Quite frankly, as you had no interest in doing the hard work to get this >group going, then yes, you're better off withdrawing the proposal. No one
    in alt.config can get you a newsgroup. We're not the proponent. You are.


    I'm sorry for the change of identity, that is my default persona,
    it should be clear from my reply that I have already renounced to
    continue with this endeavour.

    But if you need a formal withdrawal there it is: I withdraw the
    request. The motivation is that I objectively have no time to spend in
    an activity that can take months.

    Regards.
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  • From leeper@dont@email.me to alt.config on Sun Jun 27 11:15:46 2021
    From Newsgroup: alt.config

    In article <ogpkbg5q0e8aqvdfifbpp6ld93rtsu0v0r@4ax.com>
    sel@selroc.systems wrote:

    On Fri, 4 Jun 2021 17:35:14 -0000 (UTC), "Adam H. Kerman"
    <ahk@chinet.com> wrote:

    Doctor Who <doc@tardis.org> wrote:
    On Fri, 4 Jun 2021 14:22:39 -0000 (UTC), "Adam H. Kerman" >><ahk@chinet.com> wrote:

    sel@selroc.systems wrote:

    For your newsgroups file:
    alt.sci.selassociation Community newsgroup for SEL Association member >>>>discussions and public participation.

    You cannot have a line break. This has to be 79 characters or less. Drop >>>all the trite words that aren't keywords.

    No one expects Italian language newsgroups to be in alt. But there are a >>>few under alt.it.*

    You should really propose it in it.*

    An institutional newsgroup like this isn't really appropriate for >>>Usenet. Can you show that the institution itself, as a topic, is widely >>>discussed on Usenet? Is there a reason the institution's associates are >>>going to communicate by Usenet and not a mailing list or something else? >>>
    CHARTER:
    Discussions for SEL Association projects and plans.

    JUSTIFICATION:

    That's not justification.

    In justification, you count the number of articles in which SEL is >>>discussed over a recent 90 day period. If there aren't a minimum of 10 >>>articles a day, the group will end up a barely used spamtrap.

    It's the job of you, the proponent, to promote the newsgroup to other >>>Usenet users discussing the topic. Performing the justification informs >>>you where and who these users are. Your job isn't finished till >>>discussion in the newsgroup is at sustainable levels, a minimum of 10 >>>articles a day of discussion, not just announcements and press releases. >>>Crossposts don't count either.

    SEL Association is a new Italian association supporting science >>>>projects such as:

    - Propulsion Physics
    - Computer Science
    - Structural Engineering
    - Operative research
    - Robotics engineering
    - Energy Research

    I can't believe all these topics would be discussed in one newsgroup >>>versus newsgroups that already exist to discuss specific science and >>>engineering topics.


    Thank you for reaching out.
    I had anticipated that it would be difficult to get a usenet news
    group for the association, as such I have resorted to creating a
    public IRC channel, which is not so difficult to obtain.

    Regards.

    You morphed to a yads-like identity within the same thread? You can't be
    a good proponent if you're not known for discussing the topic.

    Quite frankly, as you had no interest in doing the hard work to get this >group going, then yes, you're better off withdrawing the proposal. No one >in alt.config can get you a newsgroup. We're not the proponent. You are.


    I'm sorry for the change of identity, that is my default persona,
    it should be clear from my reply that I have already renounced to
    continue with this endeavour.

    But if you need a formal withdrawal there it is: I withdraw the
    request. The motivation is that I objectively have no time to spend in
    an activity that can take months.

    Regards.

    Don't let a troll discourage you. Fight for what you believe is
    right.

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