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What the hell did they do to the menu in Firefox for Android 148? They
went from a small, accessible menu to a gigantic monster.

<https://support.mozilla.org/en-US/kb/explore-firefox-android-menu>
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Crosspost between alt.comp.software.firefox and comp.mobile.android.

What the hell did they do to the menu in Firefox for Android 148? They
went from a small, accessible menu to a gigantic monster.

I think the change was in v147, I find it ok on a tablet, haven't really
taken much notice on phone
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On Sat, 28 Feb 2026 12:43:49 +0000, Andy Burns wrote:

I think the change was in v147, I find it ok on a tablet, haven't really taken much notice on phone

Apparently this started in 141, but yesterday was the first time I
noticed the change (and I use Fx daily). I don't like it at all; my
thumb isn't long enough to operate it.
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Andy Burns wrote:

s|b wrote:

Crosspost between alt.comp.software.firefox and comp.mobile.android.

What the hell did they do to the menu in Firefox for Android 148? They
went from a small, accessible menu to a gigantic monster.

I think the change was in v147, I find it ok on a tablet, haven't really taken much notice on phone

Me neither. As far as I can tell, it wasn't a major paradigm shift.

But of course, other peoples' MMV.
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s|b wrote:

Crosspost between alt.comp.software.firefox and comp.mobile.android.

What the hell did they do to the menu in Firefox for Android 148? They
went from a small, accessible menu to a gigantic monster.

<https://support.mozilla.org/en-US/kb/explore-firefox-android-menu>

So maybe give Fennec a try to see, if it better fits your needs: https://f-droid.org/en/packages/org.mozilla.fennec_fdroid/
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On Sat, 28 Feb 2026 06:09:04 -0800, John C. wrote:

Me neither. As far as I can tell, it wasn't a major paradigm shift.

But of course, other peoples' MMV.

Et tu, John?

You're always the first to cry wolf when they change stuff, but you're
OK with this... monster?
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On Sat, 28 Feb 2026 13:27:04 +0100, s|b wrote:

Crosspost between alt.comp.software.firefox and comp.mobile.android.

What the hell did they do to the menu in Firefox for Android 148? They
went from a small, accessible menu to a gigantic monster.

<https://support.mozilla.org/en-US/kb/explore-firefox-android-menu>

Got it back, for now, tnx to Reddit: <https://www.reddit.com/r/firefox/comments/1r36l47/ive_got_a_new_ui_on_firefox_for_android_which_im/>

| Settings | About | Firefox.
|
| Tap the logo multiple times until the developers settings are enabled.
|
| Go to Settings | Secret Settings
|
| There, toggle off : Toolbar Customization, Redesigned Toolbar, Composable Toolbar, and at the bottom, Tab Manager Enhancements ..
|
| Kill and restart Firefox.
|
| Edit: For some, settings take effect immediately without the need to kill and restart Firefox.

According to Mozilla, it can't be done. Liars.

<https://support.mozilla.org/en-US/kb/explore-firefox-android-menu#w_can-i-switch-back-to-the-old-menu-design>
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On 2/28/26 7:27 AM, s|b wrote:

Crosspost between alt.comp.software.firefox and comp.mobile.android.

What the hell did they do to the menu in Firefox for Android 148? They
went from a small, accessible menu to a gigantic monster.

<https://support.mozilla.org/en-US/kb/explore-firefox-android-menu>

Interesting.
I looked at that reddit page and tried the changes but I don't see any difference.
Besides, I find it quite usable. Not gaudy or big.

And I do have 148 per the play store. Google Pixel 6a
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Andy Burns wrote:

s|b wrote:

Crosspost between alt.comp.software.firefox and comp.mobile.android.

What the hell did they do to the menu in Firefox for Android 148? They
went from a small, accessible menu to a gigantic monster.

I think the change was in v147, I find it ok on a tablet, haven't really taken much notice on phone

Yeah, the change happened a couple of weeks ago and it fell under the
typical Firefox "it wasn't broke so they fixed it" behaviour. Not the
first time that they have disrupted features that I use in the Android
FF, and it is the main reason there have been several forks in the PC
version.
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s|b wrote:

On Sat, 28 Feb 2026 13:27:04 +0100, s|b wrote:

Crosspost between alt.comp.software.firefox and comp.mobile.android.

What the hell did they do to the menu in Firefox for Android 148? They
went from a small, accessible menu to a gigantic monster.

<https://support.mozilla.org/en-US/kb/explore-firefox-android-menu>

Got it back, for now, tnx to Reddit: <https://www.reddit.com/r/firefox/comments/1r36l47/ive_got_a_new_ui_on_firefox_for_android_which_im/>

| Settings | About | Firefox.
|
| Tap the logo multiple times until the developers settings are enabled.
|
| Go to Settings | Secret Settings
|
| There, toggle off : Toolbar Customization, Redesigned Toolbar, Composable Toolbar, and at the bottom, Tab Manager Enhancements ..
|
| Kill and restart Firefox.
|
| Edit: For some, settings take effect immediately without the need to kill and restart Firefox.

According to Mozilla, it can't be done. Liars.

<https://support.mozilla.org/en-US/kb/explore-firefox-android-menu#w_can-i-switch-back-to-the-old-menu-design>

I followed that procedure and so far it has not made any difference.
Just for giggles, I've powered my phone off and will start it up again
in a couple of minutes (I'm not that good at multitasking).
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Andy Burns <usenet@andyburns.uk> Wrote in message:

s|b wrote:

Crosspost between alt.comp.software.firefox and comp.mobile.android.

What the hell did they do to the menu in Firefox for Android 148? They
went from a small, accessible menu to a gigantic monster.

I think the change was in v147, I find it ok on a tablet, haven't really taken much notice on phone

I use the Beta version and this menu change happened some some
months ago. It was slightly irritating at first but I soon got
used to it. But this is a tablet too - I haven't seen it on a
phone.

I changed to Beta to get a proper tab-bar on top, like on desktop.
Has that arrived on Release yet? Fenix was always designed
primarily for phones.
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On Sat, 28 Feb 2026 16:41:36 +0100, Arno Welzel wrote:

Well - a *small* menu is *not* accessible on touch screens.

It /is/ on my Pixel 10's touch screen.
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On Sat, 28 Feb 2026 17:08:08 -0500, Alan K. wrote:

Interesting.
I looked at that reddit page and tried the changes but I don't see any difference.
Besides, I find it quite usable. Not gaudy or big.

And I do have 148 per the play store. Google Pixel 6a

148 on a Pixel 10. After the changes I got the old menu back:

<https://i.postimg.cc/sDrgXjTn/share-1387536287368601201.png>

I hope it's a keeper, because I really don't like the new menu.
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On Sun, 1 Mar 2026 10:39:36 +0100, R Daneel Olivaw wrote:

I followed that procedure and so far it has not made any difference.
Just for giggles, I've powered my phone off and will start it up again
in a couple of minutes (I'm not that good at multitasking).

I rebooted my phone /and/ I then manually killed Firefox.
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On Sat, 28 Feb 2026 17:08:08 -0500, Alan K. wrote:

Interesting.
I looked at that reddit page and tried the changes but I don't see any difference.
Besides, I find it quite usable. Not gaudy or big.

And I do have 148 per the play store. Google Pixel 6a

Forgot to tell: after I made the change in Secret Settings I rebooted my
phone and then manually killed Firefox.
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s|b wrote:

but you're OK with this... monster?

When I'm in portrait mode on the tablet, and I "unfurl" the More and Extensions sections, it does take pretty much the whole screen
(9.1" 1440x2304).
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On Sun, 1 Mar 2026 10:02:42 +0000 (GMT), Dave Royal
<dave@dave123royal.com> wrote:

Andy Burns <usenet@andyburns.uk> Wrote in message:

s|b wrote:

Crosspost between alt.comp.software.firefox and comp.mobile.android.

What the hell did they do to the menu in Firefox for Android 148? They
went from a small, accessible menu to a gigantic monster.

I think the change was in v147, I find it ok on a tablet, haven't really
taken much notice on phone

I use the Beta version and this menu change happened some some
months ago. It was slightly irritating at first but I soon got
used to it. But this is a tablet too - I haven't seen it on a
phone.

I changed to Beta to get a proper tab-bar on top, like on desktop.
Has that arrived on Release yet? Fenix was always designed
primarily for phones.

I forced my Lenovo tablet running Android 13 to supposedly update to
148.0 last night.
Three Dots > Settings > Customize > scroll slightly to "Tab bar
display" and use slider to right to activate. Personally, it's too
large/in yer face.
OT I know... but I prefer Samsung Internet (which I think was just
renamed Samsung Internet). It has more of the feel of Firefox for PC.
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On Sun, 01 Mar 2026 09:26:33 -0800, Nobody <jock@soccer.com> wrote:

On Sun, 1 Mar 2026 10:02:42 +0000 (GMT), Dave Royal
<dave@dave123royal.com> wrote:

Andy Burns <usenet@andyburns.uk> Wrote in message:

s|b wrote:

Crosspost between alt.comp.software.firefox and comp.mobile.android.

What the hell did they do to the menu in Firefox for Android 148? They >>>> went from a small, accessible menu to a gigantic monster.

I think the change was in v147, I find it ok on a tablet, haven't really >>> taken much notice on phone

I use the Beta version and this menu change happened some some
months ago. It was slightly irritating at first but I soon got
used to it. But this is a tablet too - I haven't seen it on a
phone.

I changed to Beta to get a proper tab-bar on top, like on desktop.
Has that arrived on Release yet? Fenix was always designed
primarily for phones.

I forced my Lenovo tablet running Android 13 to supposedly update to
148.0 last night.

Three Dots > Settings > Customize > scroll slightly to "Tab bar
display" and use slider to right to activate. Personally, it's too
large/in yer face.

OT I know... but I prefer Samsung Internet (which I think was just
renamed Samsung Internet). It has more of the feel of Firefox for PC.

grrr... Samsung Browser.
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On Sun, 1 Mar 2026 13:16:18 +0000, Andy Burns wrote:

When I'm in portrait mode on the tablet, and I "unfurl" the More and Extensions sections, it does take pretty much the whole screen
(9.1" 1440x2304).

Now imagine this on a smartphone.
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On Sun, 01 Mar 2026 09:26:33 -0800, Nobody wrote:

OT I know... but I prefer Samsung Internet (which I think was just
renamed Samsung Internet). It has more of the feel of Firefox for PC.

In Belgium, we use an app called Itsme to login to government sites (and
net banking). With Samsung Internet this doesn't work, so we have to
install Chrome instead.

Long time ago I had a Samsung Galaxy Mini. Samsung, never again.
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On 2026-03-01 19:12, s|b wrote:

On Sun, 01 Mar 2026 09:26:33 -0800, Nobody wrote:

OT I know... but I prefer Samsung Internet (which I think was just
renamed Samsung Internet). It has more of the feel of Firefox for PC.

In Belgium, we use an app called Itsme to login to government sites (and
net banking). With Samsung Internet this doesn't work, so we have to
install Chrome instead.

Long time ago I had a Samsung Galaxy Mini. Samsung, never again.

My first smart phone was a Samsung Galaxy Mini II. Then I changed to
Motorola.

When people that are not tech savy, that have a Samsung, ask me what to
buy next, I tell them another Samsung. Least surprise. Otherwise I have
to "support" their questions :-)
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On Sun, 01 Mar 2026 19:12:09 +0100, "s|b" <me@privacy.invalid> wrote:

On Sun, 01 Mar 2026 09:26:33 -0800, Nobody wrote:

OT I know... but I prefer Samsung Internet (which I think was just
renamed Samsung Internet). It has more of the feel of Firefox for PC.

In Belgium, we use an app called Itsme to login to government sites (and
net banking). With Samsung Internet this doesn't work, so we have to
install Chrome instead.

Long time ago I had a Samsung Galaxy Mini. Samsung, never again.

I'm talking specifically about Samsung Internet/Browser for Android,
not their tablets/phones as hardware.
The Province of British Columbia has a (supposedly secure) app as a
gateway into government services, including some federal programs;
ditto with a specific app for my major bank. I'd never use a browser
on a phone for those... even the banking app isn't engaged much. And
the tablet is purely for general info/entertainment.
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s|b, 2026-03-01 13:47:

On Sat, 28 Feb 2026 16:41:36 +0100, Arno Welzel wrote:

Well - a *small* menu is *not* accessible on touch screens.

It /is/ on my Pixel 10's touch screen.

Not everybody has a Pixel 10. There are also devices with smaller screens.
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On 26/02/28 07:13 AM, s|b wrote:

On Sat, 28 Feb 2026 06:09:04 -0800, John C. wrote:

Me neither. As far as I can tell, it wasn't a major paradigm shift.

But of course, other peoples' MMV.

Et tu, John?

You're always the first to cry wolf when they change stuff, but you're
OK with this... monster?

I started using an Android phone only this year, so it may be that for
me the change wasn't that drastic.

I do know that yesterday or the day before, there was a change on my
Samsung phone that makes it impossible to go back to an earlier version
of an "app". *That* sucks.
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