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I usually use SeaMonkey Suite for my Newsgroups and general Browsing.

This has worked reasonable, but SeaMonkey is falling behind in the
Browser field so for some of the Websites, I use Firefox. Such a site is Yahoo.con which I use for my E-mails.

The last few days when I've selected Yahoo.con in Firefox, I've then had
to manually enter my Password.

WHY?? Has Firefox done away with its Password Manager or something??

Why aren't my Passwords auto-filling in Firefox??

TIA (just subscribed to this NG and have yet to read the 6619 messages
that downloaded ... although the "How to revert to a previous version of Firefox" thread (posted today) might indicate I'm not the only one
having problems.)
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Daniel70 <daniel47@nomail.afraid.org> writes:

I usually use SeaMonkey Suite for my Newsgroups and general Browsing.

This has worked reasonable, but SeaMonkey is falling behind in the
Browser field so for some of the Websites, I use Firefox. Such a site
is Yahoo.con which I use for my E-mails.

The last few days when I've selected Yahoo.con in Firefox, I've then
had to manually enter my Password.

WHY?? Has Firefox done away with its Password Manager or something??

Why aren't my Passwords auto-filling in Firefox??

TIA (just subscribed to this NG and have yet to read the 6619 messages
that downloaded ... although the "How to revert to a previous version
of Firefox" thread (posted today) might indicate I'm not the only one
having problems.)

Have you checked your passord settings?

Passwords
---------

Ask to save passwords
Fill usernames and passwords automatically
Suggest strong passwords
Suggest Firefox Relay email masks to protect your email address
Show alerts about passwords for breached web sites
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Daniel70 wrote:

The last few days when I've selected Yahoo.con in Firefox, I've then had
to manually enter my Password.

I'm not a yahoo user, but I think I've noticed other people saying
they're making oAuth2 changes?

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On Sat, 4 Apr 2026 12:22:50 +0100, Andy Burns wrote:

I'm not a yahoo user, but I think I've noticed other people saying
they're making oAuth2 changes?

They did something so Yahoo accounts in TB didn't work anymore (at
least, for me). I have no idea if they did something similar with Fx. It
would surprise me since a mailclient and a browser are not the same.
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s|b
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Daniel70 <daniel47@nomail.afraid.org> wrote:

I usually use SeaMonkey Suite for my Newsgroups and general Browsing.

This has worked reasonable, but SeaMonkey is falling behind in the
Browser field so for some of the Websites, I use Firefox. Such a site is Yahoo.con which I use for my E-mails.

The last few days when I've selected Yahoo.con in Firefox, I've then had
to manually enter my Password.

WHY?? Has Firefox done away with its Password Manager or something??

Why aren't my Passwords auto-filling in Firefox??

The password manager can pre-fill the input fields in a web page *if*
those elements are present in the web page when it gets delivered.
However, some sites have started using Javascript to create the elements
after the page is delivered. That means the input fields are not
present until later which is too late for automatic pre-fill by the
client.

I've hit many websites where the web client cannot detect the input
fields. I found the Bitwarden Password Manager add-on can recognize
more elements than the web browser. While Bitwarden works better, it
still does not always work. When the web client and Bitwarden cannot
find the input fields, I can use copy in Bitwarden to paste into the
input fields in the web doc. Not as convenient as auto-fill, but I
don't have to wander into the web client's password manager to do the
copy to clipboard. Bitwarden already knows the domain for the web doc,
so that record is already pre-selected in Bitwarden, and you use the
Copy button (and then select whether it is the username or password you
want to copy).

https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/bitwarden-password-manager/

Use Bitwarden until the web client's devs get around to updating their detection mechanisms. Even if the devs caught up to the code in
Bitwarden for detecting input fields, they still couldn't detect input
fields that appear milliseconds later when Javascript adds them to the
web doc. Copy-and-paste is doable in the web client's password manager,
but easier in Bitdefender.
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On 4/04/2026 10:37 pm, s|b wrote:

On Sat, 4 Apr 2026 12:22:50 +0100, Andy Burns wrote:

I'm not a yahoo user, but I think I've noticed other people saying
they're making oAuth2 changes?

They did something so Yahoo accounts in TB didn't work anymore (at
least, for me). I have no idea if they did something similar with Fx. It would surprise me since a mailclient and a browser are not the same.

Yeap, but they would both rely on Password interaction. So it might just
be a problem for people using their Browsers to reach Yahoo.
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Daniel70
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On Sat, 04 Apr 2026 13:37:28 +0200, "s|b" <me@privacy.invalid> wrote:

On Sat, 4 Apr 2026 12:22:50 +0100, Andy Burns wrote:

I'm not a yahoo user, but I think I've noticed other people saying
they're making oAuth2 changes?

They did something so Yahoo accounts in TB didn't work anymore (at
least, for me).

OT My Yahoo! account has worked fine through multiple versions for
years. Just delete the account (and especially ANY stored password)
and TB will walk you through the process to restore as a new account
to obey Yahoo!'s OAuth2 demand.

I have no idea if they did something similar with Fx. It
would surprise me since a mailclient and a browser are not the same.

That same Yahoo! account via Ffox recently went through a grumpy stage
for a week or three where it insisted on 2FA for access... then just
as suddenly began accepting the longstanding user/password combination
alone.
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On 04 Apr 2026, Andy Burns <usenet@andyburns.uk> wrote in alt.comp.software.firefox:

Daniel70 wrote:

The last few days when I've selected Yahoo.con in Firefox, I've
then had to manually enter my Password.

I'm not a yahoo user, but I think I've noticed other people saying
they're making oAuth2 changes?

There have been some changes at both Yahoo and Thunderbird that affect
logons. I haven't been bit yet, probably because I'm still on the
Thunderbird esr release. However I have no trouble logging into Yahoo
with Firefox 149.0.

Here's an article about the Thunderbird/Yahoo situation. It's
confusing.

https://support.mozilla.org/en-US/kb/thunderbird-and-yahoo
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Nil wrote:

Here's an article about the Thunderbird/Yahoo situation. It's
confusing.

https://support.mozilla.org/en-US/kb/thunderbird-and-yahoo

indeed, pixies all the way ...

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On 5/04/2026 2:02 am, Nobody wrote:

On Sat, 04 Apr 2026 13:37:28 +0200, "s|b" <me@privacy.invalid>
wrote:

On Sat, 4 Apr 2026 12:22:50 +0100, Andy Burns wrote:

I'm not a yahoo user, but I think I've noticed other people
saying they're making oAuth2 changes?

They did something so Yahoo accounts in TB didn't work anymore (at
least, for me).

OT My Yahoo! account has worked fine through multiple versions for
years. Just delete the account (and especially ANY stored password)
and TB will walk you through the process to restore as a new account
to obey Yahoo!'s OAuth2 demand.

I have no idea if they did something similar with Fx. It would
surprise me since a mailclient and a browser are not the same.

That same Yahoo! account via Ffox recently went through a grumpy
stage for a week or three where it insisted on 2FA for access...

I'm not even being offered 2FA. As much as 2FA annoys me, I'd accept
that in preference to NO access what so ever.

then just as suddenly began accepting the longstanding user/password combination alone.

When I do try to log-in to Yahoo, after selecting my account, on the
next screen "Enter your password", it does offer to enter my Yahoo
account as the Password ..... Hey, what do you know, when I select which
of the two accounts I want to log into (WHO knew I had TWO Yahoo
accounts), it enters the appropriate Password .... and I'm in.

Sorry for the noise!! ;-)

(I wonder what the other account that I apparently have is about!!)
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Daniel70
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On 5/04/2026 8:11 pm, Daniel70 wrote:

On 5/04/2026 2:02 am, Nobody wrote:

On Sat, 04 Apr 2026 13:37:28 +0200, "s|b" <me@privacy.invalid>
wrote:

<Snip>

I have no idea if they did something similar with Fx. It would
surprise me since a mailclient and a browser are not the same.

That same Yahoo! account via Ffox recently went through a grumpy
stage for a week or three where it insisted on 2FA for access...

I'm not even being offered 2FA. As much as 2FA annoys me, I'd accept
that in preference to NO access what so ever.

then just as suddenly began accepting the longstanding user/password
combination alone.

When I do try to log-in to Yahoo, after selecting my account, on the
next screen "Enter your password", it does offer to enter my Yahoo
account as the Password ..... Hey, what do you know, when I select which
of the two accounts I want to log into (WHO knew I had TWO Yahoo
accounts), it enters the appropriate Password .... and I'm in.

Sorry for the noise!! ;-)

(I wonder what the other account that I apparently have is about!!)

And checking, the other log-in account ALSO connects to my one,
singular, mail account. ;-(
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Daniel70
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On Sat, 04 Apr 2026 09:02:07 -0700, Nobody wrote:

OT My Yahoo! account has worked fine through multiple versions for
years. Just delete the account (and especially ANY stored password)
and TB will walk you through the process to restore as a new account
to obey Yahoo!'s OAuth2 demand.

Why didn't I think of that? I just deleted the accounts since I hardly
use them anymore. (But will certainly give this a try. Tnx!)
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s|b
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