• Updating Firefox/slackware

    From The Real Bev@bashley101@gmail.com to alt.comp.software.firefox on Tue Sep 29 13:32:45 2026
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    Being a generally untrusting person, I want to be able to try an update
    and revert to my previous version if I don't like the new one.

    I download and untar the new version (157 in this case).
    Start it from within its own separate subdirectory and generate a new
    profile.
    Shut it down.
    Copy (cp -raf *) over ALL the contents of the old profile.
    Restart and test.

    Looked OK, but I didn't want to deal with making it the current version
    yet. When I closed 157 and restarted 150 I was told that firefox
    wouldnt work with a profile newer than the version and it demanded that
    I either quit or make a new profile. I quit. I tried again. Same
    thing. 150 worked fine with that profile only half an hour ago.

    Tried again: ./firefox from within the FF150 subdirectory. This time
    it brought up FF157 with the selected old profile with all my tabs gone.

    I find this maddening. Is there a simple explanation? Should I have
    done something different? My procedure has been working for decades --
    until today :-(
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    Cheers, Bev
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  • From Alan K.@alan@invalid.com to alt.comp.software.firefox on Tue Sep 29 16:57:37 2026
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    On 9/29/26 4:32 PM, The Real Bev wrote:
    Being a generally untrusting person, I want to be able to try an update
    and revert to my previous version if I don't like the new one.

    I download and untar the new version (157 in this case).
    Start it from within its own separate subdirectory and generate a new profile.
    Shut it down.
    Copy (cp -raf *) over ALL the contents of the old profile.
    Restart and test.

    Looked OK, but I didn't want to deal with making it the current version
    yet. When I closed 157 and restarted 150 I was told that firefox
    wouldnt work with a profile newer than the version and it demanded that
    I either quit or make a new profile. I quit. I tried again. Same
    thing. 150 worked fine with that profile only half an hour ago.

    Tried again: ./firefox from within the FF150 subdirectory. This time
    it brought up FF157 with the selected old profile with all my tabs gone.

    I find this maddening. Is there a simple explanation? Should I have
    done something different? My procedure has been working for decades --
    until today :-(

    The first would be "did you backup the profile folder?" like from the ~/.mozilla folder.
    I would have thought it would just run off your old profile and muck it up as if it were
    an upgrade. Granted restoring you profile backup would be the only option after that.
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    Alan K.
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  • From not@not@telling.you.invalid (Computer Nerd Kev) to alt.comp.software.firefox on Wed Sep 30 09:09:36 2026
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    The Real Bev <bashley101@gmail.com> wrote:
    Being a generally untrusting person, I want to be able to try an update
    and revert to my previous version if I don't like the new one.

    I download and untar the new version (157 in this case).
    Start it from within its own separate subdirectory and generate a new profile.
    Shut it down.
    Copy (cp -raf *) over ALL the contents of the old profile.
    Restart and test.

    The profile files are usually created relative to the user's home
    directory in Linux, not the installation directory, so I'm not sure
    what you were copying where. But note that Firefox might now store
    some things under ~/.config and ~/.local rather than ~/.mozilla
    since it adopted the "XDG Base Directory Specification":

    https://www.phoronix.com/news/Firefox-147-XDG-Base-Directory

    I think it only creates the new locations if there's no existing
    ~/.mozilla directory when it starts up, but maybe you did that at
    one point and it switched over to the new paths as a result,
    ignoring the old ~/.mozilla directory that you copied back
    afterwards?
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  • From The Real Bev@bashley101@gmail.com to alt.comp.software.firefox on Tue Sep 29 17:08:47 2026
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    On 9/29/26 16:09, Computer Nerd Kev wrote:
    The Real Bev <bashley101@gmail.com> wrote:
    Being a generally untrusting person, I want to be able to try an update
    and revert to my previous version if I don't like the new one.

    I download and untar the new version (157 in this case).
    Start it from within its own separate subdirectory and generate a new
    profile.
    Shut it down.
    Copy (cp -raf *) over ALL the contents of the old profile.
    Restart and test.

    The profile files are usually created relative to the user's home
    directory in Linux, not the installation directory, so I'm not sure
    what you were copying where.

    Yes. Force-copy contents of Profile1 into Profile2.

    But note that Firefox might now store
    some things under ~/.config and ~/.local rather than ~/.mozilla
    since it adopted the "XDG Base Directory Specification":

    Not unless it does it secretly. I just untar the tarball into its own subdirectory. I do NOT install or create symlinks.
    https://www.phoronix.com/news/Firefox-147-XDG-Base-Directory

    I think it only creates the new locations if there's no existing
    ~/.mozilla directory when it starts up, but maybe you did that at
    one point and it switched over to the new paths as a result,
    ignoring the old ~/.mozilla directory that you copied back
    afterwards?
    I have always left the previously-current firefox files and associated
    profile alone. I could go back and run an ancient firefox with its own profile. Old versions had no knowledge of newer versions. This is
    strange. If I run a firefox out of a forced location (/FF159/firefox/)
    as ./firefox -P I should get THAT version of firefox and whatever
    profile I choose in the next step. Been that way for a few decades, but
    not today :-(
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    Cheers, Bev
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    If you have two lawyers in town, they both get rich.
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