• Jay Garcia

    From The Real Bev@bashley101@gmail.com to alt.comp.software.firefox,alt.comp.software.thunderbird on Tue Aug 18 07:47:40 2026
    From Newsgroup: alt.comp.software.firefox

    From N'yawlins. Raised Australian shepherds. Disappeared suddenly from
    the mozilla groups in 2016. Anybody know what happened to him?
    --
    Ch rs, B v
    My f ck ng k yb rd h s l st ts v w ls.

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  • From J. P. Gilliver@G6JPG@255soft.uk to alt.comp.software.firefox,alt.comp.software.thunderbird on Tue Aug 18 16:53:36 2026
    From Newsgroup: alt.comp.software.firefox

    On 2026/8/18 15:47:40, The Real Bev wrote:
    From N'yawlins. Raised Australian shepherds. Disappeared suddenly from
    the mozilla groups in 2016. Anybody know what happened to him?

    Well, to eliminate the worst: are Louisiana death records online? (If
    so, how recently? A lot of such records won't reveal e. g. the last n
    years' records - UK not after 2024, for example.)
    --
    J. P. Gilliver. UMRA: 1960/<1985 MB++G()ALIS-Ch++(p)Ar++T+H+Sh0!:`)DNAf

    I don't have an agree that our language torture is a quality add
    - soldiersailor on Gransnet, 2018-3-8
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  • From Rinaldi J. Montessi@rinaldij@alien.free to alt.comp.software.firefox,alt.comp.software.thunderbird on Tue Aug 18 11:26:43 2026
    From Newsgroup: alt.comp.software.firefox

    On 8/18/26 10:53 AM, J. P. Gilliver wrote:
    On 2026/8/18 15:47:40, The Real Bev wrote:
    From N'yawlins. Raised Australian shepherds. Disappeared suddenly from
    the mozilla groups in 2016. Anybody know what happened to him?

    Well, to eliminate the worst: are Louisiana death records online? (If
    so, how recently? A lot of such records won't reveal e. g. the last n
    years' records - UK not after 2024, for example.)

    I remember his web page, of which google now says: --------------------------------
    There is no active, widely recognized public website or primary
    corporate platform attached to jaygarcia.com, though the domain name has historically been used for personal email contact by an individual named
    Jay Garcia.

    The domain jaygarcia.com ceased active operations as a public-facing
    website around 2021.

    Prior to that time, it primarily served for over two decades as a
    personal contact landing page and email domain for a technology
    professional named Jay Garcia (associated with projects like early
    browser community support and Sencha/Ext JS web development).
    Here is a brief timeline of the domain's activity according to public registries and web history archives:

    1999rCo2010s: Fully active as a private web infrastructure,
    supporting personal landing pages and personal email routing (e.g., jay@jaygarcia.com).
    2021: Public web server responses ceased; the domain no longer
    hosted a functioning personal homepage or active public content.
    Present (2026): The domain remains registered but sits dormant with
    no active public web server or hosting attached to it.
    ------------------------

    My last personal communication with Jay was May, 2006. I was looking
    for TenThumbs.

    Rinaldi
    --
    Cogito, ergo dubito
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  • From The Real Bev@bashley101@gmail.com to alt.comp.software.firefox,alt.comp.software.thunderbird on Tue Aug 18 09:27:29 2026
    From Newsgroup: alt.comp.software.firefox

    On 8/18/26 08:53, J. P. Gilliver wrote:
    On 2026/8/18 15:47:40, The Real Bev wrote:
    From N'yawlins. Raised Australian shepherds. Disappeared suddenly from
    the mozilla groups in 2016. Anybody know what happened to him?

    Well, to eliminate the worst: are Louisiana death records online? (If
    so, how recently? A lot of such records won't reveal e. g. the last n
    years' records - UK not after 2024, for example.)

    If you have a fairly common name you might as well be invisible.
    --
    Cheers, Bev
    "It's no piece of cake, but it sure beats listening to Ted
    Kennedy on the Senate floor."
    - Jesse Helms describing heart surgery

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  • From The Real Bev@bashley101@gmail.com to alt.comp.software.firefox,alt.comp.software.thunderbird on Tue Aug 18 09:46:00 2026
    From Newsgroup: alt.comp.software.firefox

    On 8/18/26 09:26, Rinaldi J. Montessi wrote:
    On 8/18/26 10:53 AM, J. P. Gilliver wrote:
    On 2026/8/18 15:47:40, The Real Bev wrote:
    From N'yawlins. Raised Australian shepherds. Disappeared suddenly from >>> the mozilla groups in 2016. Anybody know what happened to him?

    Well, to eliminate the worst: are Louisiana death records online? (If
    so, how recently? A lot of such records won't reveal e. g. the last n
    years' records - UK not after 2024, for example.)

    I remember his web page, of which google now says: --------------------------------
    There is no active, widely recognized public website or primary
    corporate platform attached to jaygarcia.com, though the domain name has historically been used for personal email contact by an individual named
    Jay Garcia.

    The domain jaygarcia.com ceased active operations as a public-facing
    website around 2021.

    Prior to that time, it primarily served for over two decades as a
    personal contact landing page and email domain for a technology
    professional named Jay Garcia (associated with projects like early
    browser community support and Sencha/Ext JS web development).
    Here is a brief timeline of the domain's activity according to public registries and web history archives:

    1999rCo2010s: Fully active as a private web infrastructure,
    supporting personal landing pages and personal email routing (e.g., jay@jaygarcia.com).
    2021: Public web server responses ceased; the domain no longer
    hosted a functioning personal homepage or active public content.
    Present (2026): The domain remains registered but sits dormant with
    no active public web server or hosting attached to it. ------------------------

    My last personal communication with Jay was May, 2006. I was looking
    for TenThumbs.

    Email in 2016. He said he'd had a stroke in Sept 2015. His
    dog-breeding site disappeared at roughly the same time, along with his
    wife's name (Candy).

    I'm ashamed that I didn't think of asking AI. Right now Claude is
    running through the thesaurus with synonyms for 'thinking'. There are a
    LOT of them. 3 minutes now, but it repeats.

    Killed it after 4 minutes. Tried a different wayk, requesting a stop at
    1 minute. That didn't work either.
    --
    Cheers, Bev
    "It's no piece of cake, but it sure beats listening to Ted
    Kennedy on the Senate floor."
    - Jesse Helms describing heart surgery

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  • From J. P. Gilliver@G6JPG@255soft.uk to alt.comp.software.firefox,alt.comp.software.thunderbird on Tue Aug 18 17:59:19 2026
    From Newsgroup: alt.comp.software.firefox

    On 2026/8/18 17:46:0, The Real Bev wrote:
    On 8/18/26 09:26, Rinaldi J. Montessi wrote:
    On 8/18/26 10:53 AM, J. P. Gilliver wrote:
    On 2026/8/18 15:47:40, The Real Bev wrote:
    From N'yawlins. Raised Australian shepherds. Disappeared suddenly from >>>> the mozilla groups in 2016. Anybody know what happened to him?

    Well, to eliminate the worst: are Louisiana death records online? (If
    so, how recently? A lot of such records won't reveal e. g. the last n
    years' records - UK not after 2024, for example.)

    I remember his web page, of which google now says:
    --------------------------------
    There is no active, widely recognized public website or primary
    corporate platform attached to jaygarcia.com, though the domain name has
    historically been used for personal email contact by an individual named
    Jay Garcia.

    The domain jaygarcia.com ceased active operations as a public-facing
    website around 2021.

    Prior to that time, it primarily served for over two decades as a
    personal contact landing page and email domain for a technology
    professional named Jay Garcia (associated with projects like early
    browser community support and Sencha/Ext JS web development).
    Here is a brief timeline of the domain's activity according to public
    registries and web history archives:

    1999rCo2010s: Fully active as a private web infrastructure,
    supporting personal landing pages and personal email routing (e.g.,
    jay@jaygarcia.com).
    2021: Public web server responses ceased; the domain no longer
    hosted a functioning personal homepage or active public content.
    Present (2026): The domain remains registered but sits dormant with
    no active public web server or hosting attached to it.
    ------------------------

    My last personal communication with Jay was May, 2006. I was looking
    for TenThumbs.

    Email in 2016. He said he'd had a stroke in Sept 2015. His
    dog-breeding site disappeared at roughly the same time, along with his wife's name (Candy).

    I'm ashamed that I didn't think of asking AI. Right now Claude is
    running through the thesaurus with synonyms for 'thinking'. There are a
    LOT of them. 3 minutes now, but it repeats.

    Killed it after 4 minutes. Tried a different wayk, requesting a stop at
    1 minute. That didn't work either.

    I asked Google about Louisiana records, and it said:

    Louisiana death records are partially online, depending on the age of
    the record. Louisiana is a closed-record state, meaning recent
    certificates are private, but historical indexes and older records are available online through the Louisiana Secretary of State Historical
    Death Records and genealogy databases.
    Access Rules and Availability
    rCoMore than 50 years old: Death indexes and older certificates are open
    to the public and searchable online through the Louisiana Secretary of
    State database (typically covering deaths over 50 years ago).
    rCoLess than 50 years old: Recent death records are restricted. You must
    be an eligible immediate family member or legal representative with
    proper ID and proof of entitlement to order a certified copy.
    rCoThird-party genealogy sites: Databases like FamilySearch and Ancestry
    host historical Louisiana death indexes and images ranging from the
    1800s through the mid-1960s.
    rCoOfficial ordering: Certified modern or restricted copies can be
    requested online through authorized services like VitalChek or the
    Louisiana Department of Health.

    If you want, let me know:
    rCoThe approximate year of death
    rCoThe parish or city where the event occurred
    I can help you figure out the best place to search or order the record.

    So I gave it "I'm trying to find out if someone last heard from in 2016
    has died."

    It gave a few links, reminding about the privacy matters, plus the
    following:

    1. Search Aggregated Obituary Engines
    Most modern death notifications bypass the state registry and are
    published online by funeral homes.
    rCoSearch national registries like Legacy.com or Tributes.com, which
    aggregate daily funeral notices across the United States.
    rCoUse targeted Google search strings matching the person's name and
    timeline, for example: rCLFirstname LastnamerCY AND rCLobituaryrCY AND rCL2016rCY.
    2. Check Digital Newspaper Archives

    etc.; I'll let you read on.
    --
    J. P. Gilliver. UMRA: 1960/<1985 MB++G()ALIS-Ch++(p)Ar++T+H+Sh0!:`)DNAf

    You should always go to other people's funerals - otherwise, they won't
    come to yours. - Yogi Berra
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  • From Rinaldi J. Montessi@rinaldij@alien.free to alt.comp.software.firefox,alt.comp.software.thunderbird on Tue Aug 18 12:34:53 2026
    From Newsgroup: alt.comp.software.firefox

    On 8/18/26 11:59 AM, J. P. Gilliver wrote:
    On 2026/8/18 17:46:0, The Real Bev wrote:
    On 8/18/26 09:26, Rinaldi J. Montessi wrote:
    On 8/18/26 10:53 AM, J. P. Gilliver wrote:
    On 2026/8/18 15:47:40, The Real Bev wrote:
    From N'yawlins. Raised Australian shepherds. Disappeared suddenly from
    the mozilla groups in 2016. Anybody know what happened to him?

    Well, to eliminate the worst: are Louisiana death records online? (If
    so, how recently? A lot of such records won't reveal e. g. the last n
    years' records - UK not after 2024, for example.)

    I remember his web page, of which google now says:
    --------------------------------
    There is no active, widely recognized public website or primary
    corporate platform attached to jaygarcia.com, though the domain name has >>> historically been used for personal email contact by an individual named >>> Jay Garcia.

    The domain jaygarcia.com ceased active operations as a public-facing
    website around 2021.

    Prior to that time, it primarily served for over two decades as a
    personal contact landing page and email domain for a technology
    professional named Jay Garcia (associated with projects like early
    browser community support and Sencha/Ext JS web development).
    Here is a brief timeline of the domain's activity according to public
    registries and web history archives:

    1999rCo2010s: Fully active as a private web infrastructure,
    supporting personal landing pages and personal email routing (e.g.,
    jay@jaygarcia.com).
    2021: Public web server responses ceased; the domain no longer
    hosted a functioning personal homepage or active public content.
    Present (2026): The domain remains registered but sits dormant with >>> no active public web server or hosting attached to it.
    ------------------------

    My last personal communication with Jay was May, 2006. I was looking
    for TenThumbs.

    Email in 2016. He said he'd had a stroke in Sept 2015. His
    dog-breeding site disappeared at roughly the same time, along with his
    wife's name (Candy).

    I'm ashamed that I didn't think of asking AI. Right now Claude is
    running through the thesaurus with synonyms for 'thinking'. There are a
    LOT of them. 3 minutes now, but it repeats.

    Killed it after 4 minutes. Tried a different wayk, requesting a stop at
    1 minute. That didn't work either.

    I asked Google about Louisiana records, and it said:

    Louisiana death records are partially online, depending on the age of
    the record. Louisiana is a closed-record state, meaning recent
    certificates are private, but historical indexes and older records are available online through the Louisiana Secretary of State Historical
    Death Records and genealogy databases.
    Access Rules and Availability
    rCoMore than 50 years old: Death indexes and older certificates are open
    to the public and searchable online through the Louisiana Secretary of
    State database (typically covering deaths over 50 years ago).
    rCoLess than 50 years old: Recent death records are restricted. You must
    be an eligible immediate family member or legal representative with
    proper ID and proof of entitlement to order a certified copy.
    rCoThird-party genealogy sites: Databases like FamilySearch and Ancestry
    host historical Louisiana death indexes and images ranging from the
    1800s through the mid-1960s.
    rCoOfficial ordering: Certified modern or restricted copies can be
    requested online through authorized services like VitalChek or the
    Louisiana Department of Health.

    If you want, let me know:
    rCoThe approximate year of death
    rCoThe parish or city where the event occurred
    I can help you figure out the best place to search or order the record.

    So I gave it "I'm trying to find out if someone last heard from in 2016
    has died."

    It gave a few links, reminding about the privacy matters, plus the
    following:

    1. Search Aggregated Obituary Engines
    Most modern death notifications bypass the state registry and are
    published online by funeral homes.
    rCoSearch national registries like Legacy.com or Tributes.com, which aggregate daily funeral notices across the United States.
    rCoUse targeted Google search strings matching the person's name and timeline, for example: rCLFirstname LastnamerCY AND rCLobituaryrCY AND rCL2016rCY.
    2. Check Digital Newspaper Archives

    etc.; I'll let you read on.

    From google:

    That confirms it beyond any doubtrCoyou are absolutely tracking the right person!
    Knowing his wiferCOs name is Candy ties his entire timeline together. In
    both the tech and the show dog communities, Jay and Candy Garcia were well-known as a dedicated team.
    While Jay (Jesus) focused on building Modus Create and handling browser infrastructure, Candy was incredibly active alongside him in the dog
    world. For decades, they bred and handled national-level champion Chow
    Chows, frequently appearing together in American Kennel Club (AKC)
    registries and regional Chow Chow specialty club events.
    Your detail about Candy actually helps clarify why your friend might
    have heard about a health issue:

    The 2015 Confusion: While Jay himself did not have a stroke in
    2015, the couple briefly stepped back from heavily attending distant
    traveling dog shows around that era. In close-knit hobby circles, when a prominent couple suddenly scales back their weekend appearances, rumors
    or mixed-up health news often spread by word of mouth.
    The Dormant Domain: It also explains why jaygarcia.com eventually
    stopped updating and went offline around 2021. It wasn't just Jay's professional portal; it was the digital hub where they hosted family
    updates, personal contact info, and records of their champion dogs. As
    they both transitioned into retirement and stepped away from competitive
    dog showing, they simply let the old web server lapse.
    --
    Cogito, ergo dubito
    --- Synchronet 3.22a-Linux NewsLink 1.2
  • From The Real Bev@bashley101@gmail.com to alt.comp.software.firefox,alt.comp.software.thunderbird on Tue Aug 18 13:14:58 2026
    From Newsgroup: alt.comp.software.firefox

    On 8/18/26 10:34, Rinaldi J. Montessi wrote:
    On 8/18/26 11:59 AM, J. P. Gilliver wrote:
    On 2026/8/18 17:46:0, The Real Bev wrote:
    On 8/18/26 09:26, Rinaldi J. Montessi wrote:
    On 8/18/26 10:53 AM, J. P. Gilliver wrote:
    On 2026/8/18 15:47:40, The Real Bev wrote:
    From N'yawlins. Raised Australian shepherds. Disappeared suddenly from
    the mozilla groups in 2016. Anybody know what happened to him?

    Well, to eliminate the worst: are Louisiana death records online? (If >>>>> so, how recently? A lot of such records won't reveal e. g. the last n >>>>> years' records - UK not after 2024, for example.)

    I remember his web page, of which google now says:
    --------------------------------
    There is no active, widely recognized public website or primary
    corporate platform attached to jaygarcia.com, though the domain name has >>>> historically been used for personal email contact by an individual named >>>> Jay Garcia.

    The domain jaygarcia.com ceased active operations as a public-facing
    website around 2021.

    Prior to that time, it primarily served for over two decades as a
    personal contact landing page and email domain for a technology
    professional named Jay Garcia (associated with projects like early
    browser community support and Sencha/Ext JS web development).
    Here is a brief timeline of the domain's activity according to public
    registries and web history archives:

    1999rCo2010s: Fully active as a private web infrastructure,
    supporting personal landing pages and personal email routing (e.g.,
    jay@jaygarcia.com).
    2021: Public web server responses ceased; the domain no longer
    hosted a functioning personal homepage or active public content.
    Present (2026): The domain remains registered but sits dormant with >>>> no active public web server or hosting attached to it.
    ------------------------

    My last personal communication with Jay was May, 2006. I was looking
    for TenThumbs.

    Email in 2016. He said he'd had a stroke in Sept 2015. His
    dog-breeding site disappeared at roughly the same time, along with his
    wife's name (Candy).

    I'm ashamed that I didn't think of asking AI. Right now Claude is
    running through the thesaurus with synonyms for 'thinking'. There are a >>> LOT of them. 3 minutes now, but it repeats.

    Killed it after 4 minutes. Tried a different wayk, requesting a stop at >>> 1 minute. That didn't work either.

    I asked Google about Louisiana records, and it said:

    Louisiana death records are partially online, depending on the age of
    the record. Louisiana is a closed-record state, meaning recent
    certificates are private, but historical indexes and older records are
    available online through the Louisiana Secretary of State Historical
    Death Records and genealogy databases.
    Access Rules and Availability
    rCoMore than 50 years old: Death indexes and older certificates are open
    to the public and searchable online through the Louisiana Secretary of
    State database (typically covering deaths over 50 years ago).
    rCoLess than 50 years old: Recent death records are restricted. You must
    be an eligible immediate family member or legal representative with
    proper ID and proof of entitlement to order a certified copy.
    rCoThird-party genealogy sites: Databases like FamilySearch and Ancestry
    host historical Louisiana death indexes and images ranging from the
    1800s through the mid-1960s.
    rCoOfficial ordering: Certified modern or restricted copies can be
    requested online through authorized services like VitalChek or the
    Louisiana Department of Health.

    If you want, let me know:
    rCoThe approximate year of death
    rCoThe parish or city where the event occurred
    I can help you figure out the best place to search or order the record.

    So I gave it "I'm trying to find out if someone last heard from in 2016
    has died."

    It gave a few links, reminding about the privacy matters, plus the
    following:

    1. Search Aggregated Obituary Engines
    Most modern death notifications bypass the state registry and are
    published online by funeral homes.
    rCoSearch national registries like Legacy.com or Tributes.com, which
    aggregate daily funeral notices across the United States.
    rCoUse targeted Google search strings matching the person's name and
    timeline, for example: rCLFirstname LastnamerCY AND rCLobituaryrCY AND rCL2016rCY.
    2. Check Digital Newspaper Archives

    etc.; I'll let you read on.

    From google:

    That confirms it beyond any doubtrCoyou are absolutely tracking the right person!
    Knowing his wiferCOs name is Candy ties his entire timeline together. In
    both the tech and the show dog communities, Jay and Candy Garcia were well-known as a dedicated team.
    While Jay (Jesus) focused on building Modus Create and handling browser infrastructure, Candy was incredibly active alongside him in the dog
    world. For decades, they bred and handled national-level champion Chow
    Chows, frequently appearing together in American Kennel Club (AKC)
    registries and regional Chow Chow specialty club events.
    Your detail about Candy actually helps clarify why your friend might
    have heard about a health issue:

    The 2015 Confusion: While Jay himself did not have a stroke in
    2015, the couple briefly stepped back from heavily attending distant traveling dog shows around that era. In close-knit hobby circles, when a prominent couple suddenly scales back their weekend appearances, rumors
    or mixed-up health news often spread by word of mouth.
    The Dormant Domain: It also explains why jaygarcia.com eventually stopped updating and went offline around 2021. It wasn't just Jay's professional portal; it was the digital hub where they hosted family
    updates, personal contact info, and records of their champion dogs. As
    they both transitioned into retirement and stepped away from competitive
    dog showing, they simply let the old web server lapse.

    Sounds reasonable, except for the ChowChow thing -- they bred Aussie shepherds; if they'd also done chows I think he would have mentioned
    it. His website had a lot more info about OzSheps than anybody needs to
    know if they don't own or want to buy one. Moreover, he SAID he had a
    stroke in Sept 2015. Part hallucination.

    The net lets us "know" a lot more people -- and lose them -- than we
    could in real life. This is probably a good thing.
    --
    Cheers, Bev
    "Attention: All virgins report to Paradise immediately!!
    This is not a drill." --MWilliams
    --- Synchronet 3.22a-Linux NewsLink 1.2
  • From Daniel70@daniel47@nomail.afraid.org to alt.comp.software.firefox,alt.comp.software.thunderbird on Wed Aug 19 19:26:02 2026
    From Newsgroup: alt.comp.software.firefox

    On 19/08/2026 2:27 am, The Real Bev wrote:
    On 8/18/26 08:53, J. P. Gilliver wrote:
    On 2026/8/18 15:47:40, The Real Bev wrote:
    -aFrom N'yawlins.-a Raised Australian shepherds. Disappeared suddenly
    from the mozilla groups in 2016.-a Anybody know what happened to him?

    Well, to eliminate the worst: are Louisiana death records online? (If
    so, how recently? A lot of such records won't reveal e. g. the last n
    years' records - UK not after 2024, for example.)

    If you have a fairly common name you might as well be invisible.

    In line with that, I regularly see a contributor in one of my other
    newsgroups who has the Family Name "Garcia".

    I often think I should ask if he is related, closely, to Jay. With the
    Family Name 'Garcia', they HAVE to be related .... but might just be
    Cousins .... 96 time removed or something.

    Another poster from the Mozilla Newsgroup that I wonder about used the
    nym 'HB', I think.
    --
    Daniel70
    --- Synchronet 3.22a-Linux NewsLink 1.2
  • From J. P. Gilliver@G6JPG@255soft.uk to alt.comp.software.firefox,alt.comp.software.thunderbird on Wed Aug 19 13:31:38 2026
    From Newsgroup: alt.comp.software.firefox

    On 2026/8/19 10:26:2, Daniel70 wrote:
    On 19/08/2026 2:27 am, The Real Bev wrote:
    On 8/18/26 08:53, J. P. Gilliver wrote:
    On 2026/8/18 15:47:40, The Real Bev wrote:
    -aFrom N'yawlins.-a Raised Australian shepherds. Disappeared suddenly >>>> from the mozilla groups in 2016.-a Anybody know what happened to him?

    Well, to eliminate the worst: are Louisiana death records online? (If
    so, how recently? A lot of such records won't reveal e. g. the last n
    years' records - UK not after 2024, for example.)

    If you have a fairly common name you might as well be invisible.

    In line with that, I regularly see a contributor in one of my other newsgroups who has the Family Name "Garcia".

    I often think I should ask if he is related, closely, to Jay. With the Family Name 'Garcia', they HAVE to be related .... but might just be
    Cousins .... 96 time removed or something.

    I don't think Garcia is that unusual a surname, especially in a Hispanic
    (?) context.

    Whether all Garcias are related, probably depends on what the name
    means; if it's a profession, like Smith, Baker, Carter, etc., then not necessarily, as when surnames became common, such surnames would have
    sprung up independendtly wherever such a trade existed.

    (OK, we're _all_ related if you go far enough back - via Adam or
    equivalent if you're religious, via mitochondrial Eve if not, but I'm
    talking of conceivably provable.)


    Another poster from the Mozilla Newsgroup that I wonder about used the
    nym 'HB', I think.
    --
    J. P. Gilliver. UMRA: 1960/<1985 MB++G()ALIS-Ch++(p)Ar++T+H+Sh0!:`)DNAf

    "Come on, Pooh," and he walked off.
    "Where are we going?" said Pooh.
    "Nowhere," said Christopher Robin.
    So they began going there.
    ~A.A.Milne
    --- Synchronet 3.22a-Linux NewsLink 1.2
  • From Carlos E. R.@robin_listas@es.invalid to alt.comp.software.firefox,alt.comp.software.thunderbird on Wed Aug 19 19:20:10 2026
    From Newsgroup: alt.comp.software.firefox

    On 2026-08-19 14:31, J. P. Gilliver wrote:
    I don't think Garcia is that unusual a surname, especially in a Hispanic
    (?) context.

    Garcia is a very "popular" surname in that context.
    --
    Cheers,
    Carlos E.R.
    ESEfc-Efc+, EUEfc-Efc|.
    --- Synchronet 3.22a-Linux NewsLink 1.2
  • From EllisMorgan@ellis@ellis.invalid to alt.comp.software.firefox,alt.comp.software.thunderbird on Thu Aug 20 08:07:55 2026
    From Newsgroup: alt.comp.software.firefox

    On 19/08/2026 13:31, J. P. Gilliver wrote:
    On 2026/8/19 10:26:2, Daniel70 wrote:
    On 19/08/2026 2:27 am, The Real Bev wrote:
    On 8/18/26 08:53, J. P. Gilliver wrote:
    On 2026/8/18 15:47:40, The Real Bev wrote:
    -aFrom N'yawlins.-a Raised Australian shepherds. Disappeared suddenly >>>>> from the mozilla groups in 2016.-a Anybody know what happened to him? >>>>>
    Well, to eliminate the worst: are Louisiana death records online? (If
    so, how recently? A lot of such records won't reveal e. g. the last n
    years' records - UK not after 2024, for example.)

    If you have a fairly common name you might as well be invisible.

    In line with that, I regularly see a contributor in one of my other
    newsgroups who has the Family Name "Garcia".

    I often think I should ask if he is related, closely, to Jay. With the
    Family Name 'Garcia', they HAVE to be related .... but might just be
    Cousins .... 96 time removed or something.

    I don't think Garcia is that unusual a surname, especially in a Hispanic
    (?) context.

    Whether all Garcias are related, probably depends on what the name
    means; if it's a profession, like Smith, Baker, Carter, etc., then not necessarily, as when surnames became common, such surnames would have
    sprung up independendtly wherever such a trade existed.

    (OK, we're _all_ related if you go far enough back - via Adam or
    equivalent if you're religious, via mitochondrial Eve if not, but I'm
    talking of conceivably provable.)

    Is "conceivable" is a bit enigmatic in this context?


    Another poster from the Mozilla Newsgroup that I wonder about used the
    nym 'HB', I think.

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  • From J. P. Gilliver@G6JPG@255soft.uk to alt.comp.software.firefox,alt.comp.software.thunderbird on Thu Aug 20 09:06:12 2026
    From Newsgroup: alt.comp.software.firefox

    On 2026/8/20 8:7:55, EllisMorgan wrote:
    On 19/08/2026 13:31, J. P. Gilliver wrote:
    []
    Whether all Garcias are related, probably depends on what the name
    means; if it's a profession, like Smith, Baker, Carter, etc., then not
    necessarily, as when surnames became common, such surnames would have
    sprung up independendtly wherever such a trade existed.

    (OK, we're _all_ related if you go far enough back - via Adam or
    equivalent if you're religious, via mitochondrial Eve if not, but I'm
    talking of conceivably provable.)

    Is "conceivable" is a bit enigmatic in this context?

    Deep!

    I was really thinking of the origins that Ancestry (in my case) give
    when you do a DNA test; they tell me I'm 9% "Southeastern England & Northwestern Europe", 2% "Munster, Ireland", 1% "Donegal, Ireland", and
    2% Denmark. And yet, after fortysomething years off and on researching,
    and going back on most lines to 17xx with a few considerably further, I
    haven't found a single ancestor who isn't from England, Scotland, or
    Wales; 2% Denmark should have found at least some such. So the old adage
    that we're all related is in general far from proveable. (I've done the research for lots of other people, too, and not found a single common
    ancestor, starting from a particular person; sure, where Ancestry have
    _told_ me I have cousins I've traced the link, but not for anyone for
    whom _I_ have started the research.)


    Another poster from the Mozilla Newsgroup that I wonder about used the
    nym 'HB', I think.

    --
    J. P. Gilliver. UMRA: 1960/<1985 MB++G()ALIS-Ch++(p)Ar++T+H+Sh0!:`)DNAf

    The human voice is the most beautiful instrument of all, but it is the
    most difficult to play. - Richard Strauss, b. Munich, Germany/1864-1949
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  • From The Real Bev@bashley101@gmail.com to alt.comp.software.firefox,alt.comp.software.thunderbird on Thu Aug 20 12:11:40 2026
    From Newsgroup: alt.comp.software.firefox

    On 8/19/26 05:31, J. P. Gilliver wrote:
    On 2026/8/19 10:26:2, Daniel70 wrote:
    On 19/08/2026 2:27 am, The Real Bev wrote:
    On 8/18/26 08:53, J. P. Gilliver wrote:
    On 2026/8/18 15:47:40, The Real Bev wrote:
    -aFrom N'yawlins.-a Raised Australian shepherds. Disappeared suddenly >>>>> from the mozilla groups in 2016.-a Anybody know what happened to him? >>>>>
    Well, to eliminate the worst: are Louisiana death records online? (If
    so, how recently? A lot of such records won't reveal e. g. the last n
    years' records - UK not after 2024, for example.)

    If you have a fairly common name you might as well be invisible.

    In line with that, I regularly see a contributor in one of my other
    newsgroups who has the Family Name "Garcia".

    I often think I should ask if he is related, closely, to Jay. With the
    Family Name 'Garcia', they HAVE to be related .... but might just be
    Cousins .... 96 time removed or something.

    I don't think Garcia is that unusual a surname, especially in a Hispanic
    (?) context.

    Whether all Garcias are related, probably depends on what the name
    means; if it's a profession, like Smith, Baker, Carter, etc., then not necessarily, as when surnames became common, such surnames would have
    sprung up independendtly wherever such a trade existed.

    (OK, we're _all_ related if you go far enough back - via Adam or
    equivalent if you're religious, via mitochondrial Eve if not, but I'm
    talking of conceivably provable.)

    According to google:

    "2010 U.S. Census: Counted roughly 1,166,120 Americans with the surname Garcia, placing it at #6 nationally."

    Compare and contrast (also google):

    "Approximately 1.9 to 2.1 million residents in the United States have
    the surname Johnson. It stands as the 2nd most common last name in the country, representing roughly 0.63% of the total U.S. population."

    Smith is #1 with ~2.4 million.

    Thus endeth the lesson.
    Another poster from the Mozilla Newsgroup that I wonder about used the
    nym 'HB', I think.
    --
    Cheers, Bev
    "The problem with homeopathy is that it's so potent that if you
    stop taking it you can overdose." --AnonymousCoward, slashdot
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  • From John@Man@the.keyboard to alt.comp.software.firefox on Sat Aug 22 08:54:18 2026
    From Newsgroup: alt.comp.software.firefox

    On Thu, 20 Aug 2026 12:11:40 -0700, The Real Bev
    <bashley101@gmail.com> wrote:

    On 8/19/26 05:31, J. P. Gilliver wrote:
    On 2026/8/19 10:26:2, Daniel70 wrote:
    On 19/08/2026 2:27 am, The Real Bev wrote:
    On 8/18/26 08:53, J. P. Gilliver wrote:
    On 2026/8/18 15:47:40, The Real Bev wrote:
    aFrom N'yawlins.a Raised Australian shepherds. Disappeared suddenly >>>>>> from the mozilla groups in 2016.a Anybody know what happened to him? >>>>>>
    Well, to eliminate the worst: are Louisiana death records online? (If >>>>> so, how recently? A lot of such records won't reveal e. g. the last n >>>>> years' records - UK not after 2024, for example.)

    If you have a fairly common name you might as well be invisible.

    In line with that, I regularly see a contributor in one of my other
    newsgroups who has the Family Name "Garcia".

    I often think I should ask if he is related, closely, to Jay. With the
    Family Name 'Garcia', they HAVE to be related .... but might just be
    Cousins .... 96 time removed or something.

    I don't think Garcia is that unusual a surname, especially in a Hispanic
    (?) context.

    Whether all Garcias are related, probably depends on what the name
    means; if it's a profession, like Smith, Baker, Carter, etc., then not
    necessarily, as when surnames became common, such surnames would have
    sprung up independendtly wherever such a trade existed.

    (OK, we're _all_ related if you go far enough back - via Adam or
    equivalent if you're religious, via mitochondrial Eve if not, but I'm
    talking of conceivably provable.)

    According to google:

    "2010 U.S. Census: Counted roughly 1,166,120 Americans with the surname >Garcia, placing it at #6 nationally."

    Compare and contrast (also google):

    "Approximately 1.9 to 2.1 million residents in the United States have
    the surname Johnson. It stands as the 2nd most common last name in the >country, representing roughly 0.63% of the total U.S. population."

    Smith is #1 with ~2.4 million.

    Thus endeth the lesson.

    Lesson 2, the Wicked Pea Experience:

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Garc%C3%ADa_(surname)

    "Garc0a is the most common surname in Spain (where 3.32% of the
    population is named Garc0a)[15] and also the second most common
    surname in Mexico.

    In the 1990 United States Census, Garcia was the 18th most reported
    surname, accounting for 0.25% of the population.[16] It has become
    more common since then, jumping to eighth place in 2000.[17]

    Garcia was quite rare before the First World War in France, except in
    the French Pays Basque,[18] but became the 14th most common surname in
    France (and the eighth for the number of births between 1966 and 1990)
    due to Spanish immigration.[19][20] It ranked second in the region Provence-Alpes-Crte d'Azur for the number of births 1966u1990.[21]"

    So, Garcia being 6th by the year 2020 or so isn't too far-fetched a
    concept. I hate to suggest this - because I detest the company - but
    Google could actually be correct in its report.

    Of course, Wikipedia is not exactly an authoritative primary source,
    either but it is a fairly good starting point and it does have
    self-correcting mechanisms for anything too glaringly erroneous so it
    is relatively trustworthy-ish. A little. :)

    There are, it should not need to be said, other sources available,
    both on and off-line. "United States Census Bureau (9 May 1995).
    s:1990 Census Name Files dist.all.last (1-100)." from note 16, above,
    would be one. Or two?

    https://www.census.gov/ https://en.wikisource.org/wiki/1990_Census_Name_Files/dist.all.last_(1-100)
    J.

    Another poster from the Mozilla Newsgroup that I wonder about used the
    nym 'HB', I think.
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  • From Sailfish@NIXCAPSsailfish@NIXCAPSunforgettable.com to alt.comp.software.firefox,alt.comp.software.thunderbird on Wed Aug 26 07:07:12 2026
    From Newsgroup: alt.comp.software.firefox

    Daniel70 graced us with on 8/19/2026 2:26 AM:
    On 19/08/2026 2:27 am, The Real Bev wrote:
    On 8/18/26 08:53, J. P. Gilliver wrote:
    On 2026/8/18 15:47:40, The Real Bev wrote:
    From N'yawlins. Raised Australian shepherds. Disappeared suddenly
    from the mozilla groups in 2016. Anybody know what happened to him?

    Well, to eliminate the worst: are Louisiana death records online? (If
    so, how recently? A lot of such records won't reveal e. g. the last n
    years' records - UK not after 2024, for example.)

    If you have a fairly common name you might as well be invisible.

    In line with that, I regularly see a contributor in one of my other newsgroups who has the Family Name "Garcia".

    I often think I should ask if he is related, closely, to Jay. With the Family Name 'Garcia', they HAVE to be related .... but might just be
    Cousins .... 96 time removed or something.

    Another poster from the Mozilla Newsgroup that I wonder about used the
    nym 'HB', I think.

    Much of the above details are as I recall them; however, I recall during
    the initial "Where's Jay" thread, there was mention of his son using
    his account but then, even that faded and the thread was left much as
    this one seems to be.
    --
    Sailfish
    CDC Covid19 Trends: https://www.facebook.com/groups/624208354841034
    Rare Mozilla Stuff: http://tinyurl.com/z86x3sg
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  • From dillinger@dillinger@not.invalid to alt.comp.software.firefox,alt.comp.software.thunderbird on Wed Aug 26 16:49:55 2026
    From Newsgroup: alt.comp.software.firefox

    On 26/08/2026 16:07, Sailfish wrote:
    Daniel70 graced us with on 8/19/2026 2:26 AM:
    On 19/08/2026 2:27 am, The Real Bev wrote:
    On 8/18/26 08:53, J. P. Gilliver wrote:
    On 2026/8/18 15:47:40, The Real Bev wrote:
    -aFrom N'yawlins.-a Raised Australian shepherds. Disappeared suddenly >>>>> from the mozilla groups in 2016.-a Anybody know what happened to him? >>>>>
    Well, to eliminate the worst: are Louisiana death records online? (If
    so, how recently? A lot of such records won't reveal e. g. the last n
    years' records - UK not after 2024, for example.)

    If you have a fairly common name you might as well be invisible.

    In line with that, I regularly see a contributor in one of my other
    newsgroups who has the Family Name "Garcia".

    I often think I should ask if he is related, closely, to Jay. With the
    Family Name 'Garcia', they HAVE to be related .... but might just be
    Cousins .... 96 time removed or something.

    Another poster from the Mozilla Newsgroup that I wonder about used the
    nym 'HB', I think.

    Much of the above details are as I recall them; however, I recall during
    -athe initial "Where's Jay" thread, there was mention of his son using
    his account but then, even that faded and the thread was left much as
    this one seems to be.


    There was a similar discussion like this on mozilla.general in 2017: https://groups.google.com/g/mozilla.general/c/LX7Kc-arzOs

    However the last capture of whodataussies on the wayback machine from
    2022 with isn't very encouraging: both Jay and Candy were diagnosed with cancer: https://web.archive.org/web/20220424032815/http://www.whodataussies.com/

    Perhaps the facebook link still leads somewhere, I don't do facebook.
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  • From The Real Bev@bashley101@gmail.com to alt.comp.software.firefox,alt.comp.software.thunderbird on Wed Aug 26 11:16:36 2026
    From Newsgroup: alt.comp.software.firefox

    On 8/26/26 07:49, dillinger wrote:
    On 26/08/2026 16:07, Sailfish wrote:
    Daniel70 graced us with on 8/19/2026 2:26 AM:
    On 19/08/2026 2:27 am, The Real Bev wrote:
    On 8/18/26 08:53, J. P. Gilliver wrote:
    On 2026/8/18 15:47:40, The Real Bev wrote:
    -aFrom N'yawlins.-a Raised Australian shepherds. Disappeared suddenly >>>>>> from the mozilla groups in 2016.-a Anybody know what happened to him? >>>>>>
    Well, to eliminate the worst: are Louisiana death records online? (If >>>>> so, how recently? A lot of such records won't reveal e. g. the last n >>>>> years' records - UK not after 2024, for example.)

    If you have a fairly common name you might as well be invisible.

    In line with that, I regularly see a contributor in one of my other
    newsgroups who has the Family Name "Garcia".

    I often think I should ask if he is related, closely, to Jay. With the
    Family Name 'Garcia', they HAVE to be related .... but might just be
    Cousins .... 96 time removed or something.

    Another poster from the Mozilla Newsgroup that I wonder about used the
    nym 'HB', I think.

    Much of the above details are as I recall them; however, I recall during
    -athe initial "Where's Jay" thread, there was mention of his son using
    his account but then, even that faded and the thread was left much as
    this one seems to be.


    There was a similar discussion like this on mozilla.general in 2017: https://groups.google.com/g/mozilla.general/c/LX7Kc-arzOs

    However the last capture of whodataussies on the wayback machine from
    2022 with isn't very encouraging: both Jay and Candy were diagnosed with cancer: https://web.archive.org/web/20220424032815/http://www.whodataussies.com/

    Perhaps the facebook link still leads somewhere, I don't do facebook.

    That was a bad link. I searched for whodataussies, but facebook just
    found an irrelevant post about aussie shepherds in some random place.
    Claude just asked more questions but couldn't find anything useful.

    Nothing good.

    I did decide to contribute to archive.org, but firefox didn't deal
    properly with their reCaptcha, like a few other sites, so I have to go
    back and use Chrome, which I hate. Yes, I complained to them.
    --
    Cheers, Bev
    SAVE GAS, FART IN A JAR
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  • From The Real Bev@bashley101@gmail.com to alt.comp.software.firefox,alt.comp.software.thunderbird on Wed Aug 26 12:33:19 2026
    From Newsgroup: alt.comp.software.firefox

    Claude found this:

    --------------------------
    Found him. There's a real Jay Garcia who posted to Mozilla newsgroups (mozilla.support.firefox, and presumably the alt.comp.software.firefox/thunderbird mirrors of those groups) around
    2010, signing off as:

    "Jay Garcia - Netscape/Flock Champion, www.ufaq.org rCo Netscape - Firefox
    - SeaMonkey - Flock - Thunderbird"

    So he was a recognized "Champion" (community support volunteer) across
    several Mozilla-era and Mozilla-adjacent browsers, and ran or was
    affiliated with ufaq.org, apparently an unofficial FAQ/support site for
    that whole browser family.

    Confirmed: this is definitely the same Jay Garcia rCo a longtime Mozilla "Champion" (volunteer community support person) for Netscape, Firefox, SeaMonkey, Flock, and Thunderbird, very active on the
    mozilla.support.firefox and mozilla.support.thunderbird newsgroups
    (which mirror to
    alt.comp.software.firefox/alt.comp.software.thunderbird) from at least
    2008 through 2010rCo2011. He ran an unofficial FAQ/support site, www.ufaq.org.

    That's telling rCo ufaq.org is still technically online but it's a frozen, outdated shell (still talking about Firefox's "faster development cycle" messaging from ~2011-2012, generic placeholder ads, no real recent
    content). It looks abandoned rather than actively maintained, consistent
    with Jay Garcia's newsgroup activity trailing off in that same era. =================================

    I emailed the Aussie Shepherd organization to see if they had any info.
    This has become a quest...
    --
    Cheers, Bev
    SAVE GAS, FART IN A JAR
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  • From Mike Easter@MikeE@ster.invalid to alt.comp.software.firefox,alt.comp.software.thunderbird on Wed Aug 26 15:33:35 2026
    From Newsgroup: alt.comp.software.firefox

    The Real Bev wrote:
    This has become a quest...

    There are some very deep (and free) usenet archives

    over 45 Years of Usenet Text Retention
    --
    Mike Easter
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