I don't want to waste what little life I have left after reading
something in Firefox, to find it repeated when I read the Tb
newsgroup.
Aside from completely quitting the Tb newsgroup, is there a simple
way, maybe a filter to eliminate these Eejits from my sight?
Dnews,
Aside from completely quitting the Tb newsgroup, is there a simple
way, maybe a filter to eliminate these Eejits from my sight?
That fully depends on the newsreader you're using (which you forgot to mention).
Though most of the newsreaders offer /at minimum/ a filter referred to as a "kill file". Put anyones name into it and their messages will be suppressed. If you're lucky the response tree will be suppressed as well.
It's happening more and more these days, an Eejit(s) who posts to the
Firefox newsgroup, has a whole list of other Eejit addresses in the header
so that it also posts the same Eejit stuff to the Thunderbird newsgroup
etc, relevant or not.
I don't want to waste what little life I have left after reading something
in Firefox, to find it repeated when I read the Tb newsgroup.
Aside from completely quitting the Tb newsgroup, is there a simple way,
maybe a filter to eliminate these Eejits from my sight?
...That fully depends on the newsreader you're using (which you forgot to
mention).
From the OP's headers:
User-Agent: Pluto/3.20 (RISC OS/6.20) NewsHound/v1.54
It's happening more and more these days, an Eejit(s) who posts to the
Firefox newsgroup, has a whole list of other Eejit addresses in the header
so that it also posts the same Eejit stuff to the Thunderbird newsgroup
etc, relevant or not.
I don't want to waste what little life I have left after reading something
in Firefox, to find it repeated when I read the Tb newsgroup.
Aside from completely quitting the Tb newsgroup, is there a simple way,
maybe a filter to eliminate these Eejits from my sight?
It's happening more and more these days,
an Eejit(s) who ....
I don't want to waste what little life I have left after reading something
in Firefox, to find it repeated when I read the Tb newsgroup.
Aside from completely quitting the Tb newsgroup, is there a simple way,
maybe a filter to eliminate these Eejits from my sight?
Take back the tech companies from India & industry from China.
On 2026-07-12 10:25, Dnews wrote:
It's happening more and more these days, an Eejit(s) who posts to the
Firefox newsgroup, has a whole list of other Eejit addresses in the
header
so that it also posts the same Eejit stuff to the Thunderbird newsgroup
etc, relevant or not.
I don't want to waste what little life I have left after reading
something
in Firefox, to find it repeated when I read the Tb newsgroup.
Aside from completely quitting the Tb newsgroup, is there a simple way,
maybe a filter to eliminate these Eejits from my sight?
Assuming you use Thunderbird (because you mention reading that group)
you can create a filter that marks as read a post that was posted in
another group. Always the same group, mind. Assumes you read the posts
in a certain order.
John,
...That fully depends on the newsreader you're using (which you forgot to
mention).
From the OP's headers:
The OP needs to learn how to ask a question, including as much relevant information as he has available. My above was a soft nudge towards it
https://knowadays.com/blog/how-to-use-the-5-ws-and-1-h/
As someone who has been asked for help I should not need to go hunt for info, hidden in the headers or not.
User-Agent: Pluto/3.20 (RISC OS/6.20) NewsHound/v1.54
Thats the first time I've heard about it. It makes me wonder why the
OP posted his question in a Firefox specific newsgroup.
Regards,
Rudy Wieser
On 7/12/2026 4:25 PM, Dnews wrote:
It's happening more and more these days,
an Eejit(s) who ....
"Eejit" <-- What is this? A secret code?
A magic curse from the Islam/Muslim Holy
Book of Curses and Spells?? ;)
Op 12-07-2026 om 14:13 schreef Carlos E. R.:
On 2026-07-12 10:25, Dnews wrote:
It's happening more and more these days, an Eejit(s) who posts to the
Firefox newsgroup, has a whole list of other Eejit addresses in the
header
so that it also posts the same Eejit stuff to the Thunderbird newsgroup
etc, relevant or not.
I don't want to waste what little life I have left after reading
something
in Firefox, to find it repeated when I read the Tb newsgroup.
Aside from completely quitting the Tb newsgroup, is there a simple way,
maybe a filter to eliminate these Eejits from my sight?
Assuming you use Thunderbird (because you mention reading that group)
No, he's on Pluto, chasing eejits.
you can create a filter that marks as read a post that was posted in
another group. Always the same group, mind. Assumes you read the posts
in a certain order.
The reading order doesn't matter, if a message is x-posted to a group included in your filter, it will be filtered.
The only relevant info is, I posted to a Firefox NG as I use it.
The only relevant info is, I posted to a Firefox NG as I use it.
Dave,
Current "from:": Dave" <dnews@triffid.co.uk>
Thread-starter "from:" : Dnews <dnews@triffid.co.uk>
First of, you're a name-shifter. Which is not considered to be anything >good.
--- Synchronet 3.22a-Linux NewsLink 1.2. . .
It's an Irish word to describe in a friendly way A Fool.
First of, you're a name-shifter. Which is not considered to be
anything good.
One is not violating AUP/TOS at any News site wih reasonable term
of use.
Your point here is not well taken.
Adam,
First of, you're a name-shifter. Which is not considered to be
anything good.
One is not violating AUP/TOS at any News site wih reasonable term
of use.
There are a shitload of behaviours which are not in any kind of >law/rule-books, but when done are considered bad.
Your point here is not well taken.
... by you.
Regards,--- Synchronet 3.22a-Linux NewsLink 1.2
Rudy Wieser
Speaking of Very Naughty Behavior, if you quote, retain the attribution
Adam,
Speaking of Very Naughty Behavior, if you quote, retain the attribution
Is that a rule in one of your books ? If not, than 'Your point here is not >well taken.'
iow, you can't have it both ways.
Qyote editing is low,
No one will defend your hypocrisy nor inability to argue.
You still owe the O.P. an apology for ordering him not to change his pseudonym.
and no one but you considers it bad behavior given that he wasn't
spoofing anyone.
On Sun, 12 Jul 2026 21:05:06 +0100, Dnews wrote:
It's an Irish word to describe in a friendly way A Fool.
Somebody possibly lacking in feck, even.
You still owe the O.P. an apology for ordering him not to change his pseudonym. That is not your call, and no one but you considers it bad behavior given that he wasn't spoofing anyone.
It's an Irish word to describe in a friendly way A Fool.I don't use cantonese nor chinese
On Mon, 13 Jul 2026 09:00:49 -0000 (UTC), Adam H. Kerman wrote:
You still owe the O.P. an apology for ordering him not to change his pseudonym. That is not your call, and no one but you considers it bad behavior given that he wasn't spoofing anyone.
Hello!? You don't speak for everyone. You gave me a similar speech when
I told a poster nymshifting is bad form. It appears /only you/ seem to
think that is OK al long as the e-mailaddress stays the same. The least
you can say about it is that it is confusing.
On Mon, 13 Jul 2026 09:00:49 -0000 (UTC), Adam H. Kerman wrote:
You still owe the O.P. an apology for ordering him not to change his >>pseudonym. That is not your call, and no one but you considers it bad >>behavior given that he wasn't spoofing anyone.
Hello!? You don't speak for everyone. You gave me a similar speech when
I told a poster nymshifting is bad form. It appears /only you/ seem to
think that is OK al long as the e-mailaddress stays the same. The least
you can say about it is that it is confusing.
On 7/13/2026 4:05 AM, Dnews wrote:
It's an Irish word to describe in a friendly way A Fool.
I don't use cantonese nor chinese
when writing in english forums or
newsgroups.
Rudy was wrong for slamming him for morphing his identity.
By a slip of the finger I clicked on my "Dave" dnews@ myaddress,
instead of "dnews" dnews@ myaddress when replying.
Now I guess that is a crime when compared to the auto posting of
the same shit to multiple newsgroups... ;-)
Confusing? Don't be absurd.
One is literally not morphing one's identity when changing the
pseudonym with consistent use of an email address on From, which
was the case here.
Rudy can be an ol' sourpuss and rather petty.
Adam,
Confusing? Don't be absurd.
Yes, its confusing. My newsgroup reader - and I expect quite a number of others - doesn't show email addresses.
Mr. Man-wai Chang <toylet.toylet@gmail.com> wrote:
On 7/13/2026 4:05 AM, Dnews wrote:
It's an Irish word to describe in a friendly way A Fool.
I don't use cantonese nor chinese
when writing in english forums or
newsgroups.
Why not? It wouldn't harm your conversational skills, which are already nonexistent.
Yes, its confusing. My newsgroup reader - and I expect quite a number
of others - doesn't show email addresses. The only time I see an email address is when I reply to a message or inspect its headers.
On 7/13/2026 4:05 AM, Dnews wrote:
It's an Irish word to describe in a friendly way A Fool.
I don't use cantonese nor chinese
when writing in english forums or
newsgroups.
In article <113373d$3oprm$5@toylet.eternal-september.org>, Mr.
Man-wai Chang <toylet.toylet@gmail.com> wrote:
On 7/13/2026 4:05 AM, Dnews wrote:
It's an Irish word to describe in a friendly way A Fool.
I don't use cantonese nor chinese when writing in english forums
or newsgroups.
As I like to find fun things in my dotage :-)
Mr Man-wai Chang seems to be unaware of the Irish English as spoken
by Irish.
Probably in the same way that I think people from China just speak
Chinese :-/
Info:
Irish Gaelic is the native language of Ireland,
but because of history, they also speak good Anglo English, but with--
their own unique and wonderful colloquialisms. :-)
On 2026-07-13 21:49, R.Wieser wrote:
Yes, its confusing. My newsgroup reader - and I expect quite a number of others - doesn't show email addresses.
Mine does.
On Mon, 13 Jul 2026 23:07:25 +0200, Carlos E. R. wrote:
On 2026-07-13 21:49, R.Wieser wrote:
Yes, its confusing. My newsgroup reader - and I expect quite a number of >>> others - doesn't show email addresses.
Mine does.
In Fort|- Agent, I can choose to show the e-mailaddress or not. I've
chosen not to, because the Message List Pane becomes cluttered.
I don't remember if there is a separate setting for news and email in Thunderbird. I have display of email address on in email because it
allows one to find out people that try to fake their identity.
For example:
Your Bank <banking@promotions.com>
If you hide the email, you only see "Your Bank" and might think it is a
true mail from your bank, whereas displaying the email address you see
that it is not. Or at least that it is suspect.
Windows software likely tend to hid the address, same as it hides the extension, allowing tricks to be played on users.
On Tue, 14 Jul 2026 19:39:15 +0200, Carlos E. R. wrote:
I don't remember if there is a separate setting for news and email in
Thunderbird. I have display of email address on in email because it
allows one to find out people that try to fake their identity.
For example:
Your Bank <banking@promotions.com>
If you hide the email, you only see "Your Bank" and might think it is a
true mail from your bank, whereas displaying the email address you see
that it is not. Or at least that it is suspect.
Windows software likely tend to hid the address, same as it hides the
extension, allowing tricks to be played on users.
That's not such a bad idea. I use TB as a mailclient, but display isn't showing the e-mailaddress. That hasn't stopped me from recognising every phishing mail that I have received though. But still, not a bad idea.
On Tue, 14 Jul 2026 19:39:15 +0200, Carlos E. R. wrote:If you mean name and address in the List Pane, TB (at least 152.0.1
I don't remember if there is a separate setting for news and email in
Thunderbird. I have display of email address on in email because it
allows one to find out people that try to fake their identity.
For example:
Your Bank <banking@promotions.com>
If you hide the email, you only see "Your Bank" and might think it is a
true mail from your bank, whereas displaying the email address you see
that it is not. Or at least that it is suspect.
Windows software likely tend to hid the address, same as it hides the
extension, allowing tricks to be played on users.
That's not such a bad idea. I use TB as a mailclient, but display isn't >showing the e-mailaddress.
On Tue, 14 Jul 2026 19:55:29 +0200, "s|b" <me@privacy.invalid> wrote:
On Tue, 14 Jul 2026 19:39:15 +0200, Carlos E. R. wrote:
I don't remember if there is a separate setting for news and email in
Thunderbird. I have display of email address on in email because it
allows one to find out people that try to fake their identity.
For example:
Your Bank <banking@promotions.com>
If you hide the email, you only see "Your Bank" and might think it is a
true mail from your bank, whereas displaying the email address you see
that it is not. Or at least that it is suspect.
Windows software likely tend to hid the address, same as it hides the
extension, allowing tricks to be played on users.
That's not such a bad idea. I use TB as a mailclient, but display isn't
showing the e-mailaddress.
If you mean name and address in the List Pane, TB (at least 152.0.1
and likely long before) offers three variations: Full name and email address... Email only... and Name only.
Tools > Settings > General > (scroll w-a-y down) Message List.
Dunno what the default is but I run Name only... individual messages
once opened still display both, be it email or news group.
[As to the example of banks, any I deal with never communicate--
directly with a message containing specifics, but simply advise
there's a message waiting which requires login to my account. Canadian
banks are always hammering the message, "We will never contact you and
ask for personal/detailed information."]
On 2026-07-14 21:52, Nobody wrote:True, but that has to done/undone with each address individually. As
On Tue, 14 Jul 2026 19:55:29 +0200, "s|b" <me@privacy.invalid> wrote:
On Tue, 14 Jul 2026 19:39:15 +0200, Carlos E. R. wrote:
I don't remember if there is a separate setting for news and email in
Thunderbird. I have display of email address on in email because it
allows one to find out people that try to fake their identity.
For example:
Your Bank <banking@promotions.com>
If you hide the email, you only see "Your Bank" and might think it is a >>>> true mail from your bank, whereas displaying the email address you see >>>> that it is not. Or at least that it is suspect.
Windows software likely tend to hid the address, same as it hides the
extension, allowing tricks to be played on users.
That's not such a bad idea. I use TB as a mailclient, but display isn't
showing the e-mailaddress.
If you mean name and address in the List Pane, TB (at least 152.0.1
and likely long before) offers three variations: Full name and email
address... Email only... and Name only.
Tools > Settings > General > (scroll w-a-y down) Message List.
Dunno what the default is but I run Name only... individual messages
once opened still display both, be it email or news group.
There is also the option of displaying the name you have saved in your >contact list instead.
On Tue, 14 Jul 2026 23:15:55 +0200, "Carlos E. R."
<robin_listas@es.invalid> wrote:
On 2026-07-14 21:52, Nobody wrote:
Dunno what the default is but I run Name only... individual messages
once opened still display both, be it email or news group.
There is also the option of displaying the name you have saved in your
contact list instead.
True, but that has to done/undone with each address individually. As
well, it's an edit of how much of a full name a user wishes to see.
On Tue, 14 Jul 2026 23:15:55 +0200, "Carlos E. R."
<robin_listas@es.invalid> wrote:
On 2026-07-14 21:52, Nobody wrote:
On Tue, 14 Jul 2026 19:55:29 +0200, "s|b" <me@privacy.invalid> wrote:
On Tue, 14 Jul 2026 19:39:15 +0200, Carlos E. R. wrote:
I don't remember if there is a separate setting for news and email in >>>>> Thunderbird. I have display of email address on in email because it
allows one to find out people that try to fake their identity.
For example:
Your Bank <banking@promotions.com>
If you hide the email, you only see "Your Bank" and might think it is a >>>>> true mail from your bank, whereas displaying the email address you see >>>>> that it is not. Or at least that it is suspect.
Windows software likely tend to hid the address, same as it hides the >>>>> extension, allowing tricks to be played on users.
That's not such a bad idea. I use TB as a mailclient, but display isn't >>>> showing the e-mailaddress.
If you mean name and address in the List Pane, TB (at least 152.0.1
and likely long before) offers three variations: Full name and email
address... Email only... and Name only.
Tools > Settings > General > (scroll w-a-y down) Message List.
Dunno what the default is but I run Name only... individual messages
once opened still display both, be it email or news group.
There is also the option of displaying the name you have saved in your
contact list instead.
True, but that has to done/undone with each address individually. As
well, it's an edit of how much of a full name a user wishes to see.
If you mean name and address in the List Pane, TB (at least 152.0.1
and likely long before) offers three variations: Full name and email address... Email only... and Name only.
Tools > Settings > General > (scroll w-a-y down) Message List.
On 2026-07-15 00:53, Nobody wrote:Er, that's what I described/set out a few posts back up the thread!
On Tue, 14 Jul 2026 23:15:55 +0200, "Carlos E. R."
<robin_listas@es.invalid> wrote:
On 2026-07-14 21:52, Nobody wrote:
On Tue, 14 Jul 2026 19:55:29 +0200, "s|b" <me@privacy.invalid> wrote:
On Tue, 14 Jul 2026 19:39:15 +0200, Carlos E. R. wrote:
I don't remember if there is a separate setting for news and email in >>>>>> Thunderbird. I have display of email address on in email because it >>>>>> allows one to find out people that try to fake their identity.
For example:
Your Bank <banking@promotions.com>
If you hide the email, you only see "Your Bank" and might think it is a >>>>>> true mail from your bank, whereas displaying the email address you see >>>>>> that it is not. Or at least that it is suspect.
Windows software likely tend to hid the address, same as it hides the >>>>>> extension, allowing tricks to be played on users.
That's not such a bad idea. I use TB as a mailclient, but display isn't >>>>> showing the e-mailaddress.
If you mean name and address in the List Pane, TB (at least 152.0.1
and likely long before) offers three variations: Full name and email
address... Email only... and Name only.
Tools > Settings > General > (scroll w-a-y down) Message List.
Dunno what the default is but I run Name only... individual messages
once opened still display both, be it email or news group.
There is also the option of displaying the name you have saved in your
contact list instead.
True, but that has to done/undone with each address individually. As
well, it's an edit of how much of a full name a user wishes to see.
No, it is a global setting.
Message List
Preferred address display format:
(*) Full name and email address
( ) Email only
( ) Name only
[ ] Show only display name for people in my address book
Determine how Thunderbird handles return receipts [Return ReceiptsrCa]
On Wed, 15 Jul 2026 13:37:12 +0200, "Carlos E. R."
<robin_listas@es.invalid> wrote:
On 2026-07-15 00:53, Nobody wrote:
On Tue, 14 Jul 2026 23:15:55 +0200, "Carlos E. R."
<robin_listas@es.invalid> wrote:
On 2026-07-14 21:52, Nobody wrote:
On Tue, 14 Jul 2026 19:55:29 +0200, "s|b" <me@privacy.invalid> wrote: >>>>>
On Tue, 14 Jul 2026 19:39:15 +0200, Carlos E. R. wrote:
I don't remember if there is a separate setting for news and email in >>>>>>> Thunderbird. I have display of email address on in email because it >>>>>>> allows one to find out people that try to fake their identity.
For example:
Your Bank <banking@promotions.com>
If you hide the email, you only see "Your Bank" and might think it is a >>>>>>> true mail from your bank, whereas displaying the email address you see >>>>>>> that it is not. Or at least that it is suspect.
Windows software likely tend to hid the address, same as it hides the >>>>>>> extension, allowing tricks to be played on users.
That's not such a bad idea. I use TB as a mailclient, but display isn't >>>>>> showing the e-mailaddress.
If you mean name and address in the List Pane, TB (at least 152.0.1
and likely long before) offers three variations: Full name and email >>>>> address... Email only... and Name only.
Tools > Settings > General > (scroll w-a-y down) Message List.
Dunno what the default is but I run Name only... individual messages >>>>> once opened still display both, be it email or news group.
There is also the option of displaying the name you have saved in your >>>> contact list instead.
True, but that has to done/undone with each address individually. As
well, it's an edit of how much of a full name a user wishes to see.
No, it is a global setting.
Message List
Preferred address display format:
(*) Full name and email address
( ) Email only
( ) Name only
[ ] Show only display name for people in my address book
Determine how Thunderbird handles return receipts [Return ReceiptsrCa]
Er, that's what I described/set out a few posts back up the thread!
On 15/07/2026 17:44, Nobody wrote:Oops. My bad for the omission of the final point/variation as far as
On Wed, 15 Jul 2026 13:37:12 +0200, "Carlos E. R."
<robin_listas@es.invalid> wrote:
On 2026-07-15 00:53, Nobody wrote:
On Tue, 14 Jul 2026 23:15:55 +0200, "Carlos E. R."
<robin_listas@es.invalid> wrote:
On 2026-07-14 21:52, Nobody wrote:
On Tue, 14 Jul 2026 19:55:29 +0200, "s|b" <me@privacy.invalid> wrote: >>>>>>
On Tue, 14 Jul 2026 19:39:15 +0200, Carlos E. R. wrote:
I don't remember if there is a separate setting for news and email in >>>>>>>> Thunderbird. I have display of email address on in email because it >>>>>>>> allows one to find out people that try to fake their identity. >>>>>>>>
For example:
Your Bank <banking@promotions.com>
If you hide the email, you only see "Your Bank" and might think it is a
true mail from your bank, whereas displaying the email address you see >>>>>>>> that it is not. Or at least that it is suspect.
Windows software likely tend to hid the address, same as it hides the >>>>>>>> extension, allowing tricks to be played on users.
That's not such a bad idea. I use TB as a mailclient, but display isn't >>>>>>> showing the e-mailaddress.
If you mean name and address in the List Pane, TB (at least 152.0.1 >>>>>> and likely long before) offers three variations: Full name and email >>>>>> address... Email only... and Name only.
Tools > Settings > General > (scroll w-a-y down) Message List.
Dunno what the default is but I run Name only... individual messages >>>>>> once opened still display both, be it email or news group.
There is also the option of displaying the name you have saved in your >>>>> contact list instead.
True, but that has to done/undone with each address individually. As
well, it's an edit of how much of a full name a user wishes to see.
No, it is a global setting.
Message List
Preferred address display format:
(*) Full name and email address
( ) Email only
( ) Name only
[ ] Show only display name for people in my address book
Determine how Thunderbird handles return receipts [Return ReceiptsrCa]
Er, that's what I described/set out a few posts back up the thread!
No, you did not mention "[ ] Show only display name for people in my
address book"
On a side note: do you really add usenet contacts to your address book? Personally no... in which case, the three radio-buttons are the onlyrelevant choices.
On 15/07/2026 17:44, Nobody wrote:
On Wed, 15 Jul 2026 13:37:12 +0200, "Carlos E. R."
<robin_listas@es.invalid> wrote:
On 2026-07-15 00:53, Nobody wrote:
On Tue, 14 Jul 2026 23:15:55 +0200, "Carlos E. R."
<robin_listas@es.invalid> wrote:
On 2026-07-14 21:52, Nobody wrote:
On Tue, 14 Jul 2026 19:55:29 +0200, "s|b" <me@privacy.invalid> wrote: >>>>>>
On Tue, 14 Jul 2026 19:39:15 +0200, Carlos E. R. wrote:
No, it is a global setting.Er, that's what I described/set out a few posts back up the thread!
Message List
Preferred address display format:
-a-a-a (*) Full name and email address
-a-a-a ( ) Email only
-a-a-a ( ) Name only
-a [ ] Show only display name for people in my address book
-a Determine how Thunderbird handles return receipts [Return ReceiptsrCa] >>
No, you did not mention "[ ] Show only display name for people in my
address book"
Which only works when there is indeed a display name set for a contact.
Some address books generate these by default, but not all.
On a side note: do you really add usenet contacts to your address book?
I get some very well made mail that claims to be from companies I do
use, they seem genuine, but the mail address shows an advertising
company, the same for all of them. It is possible that the email is
legit, that they hired that company, but I do not know and don't
trust it.
In article <113373d$3oprm$5@toylet.eternal-september.org>,
Mr. Man-wai Chang <toylet.toylet@gmail.com> wrote:
On 7/13/2026 4:05 AM, Dnews wrote:
It's an Irish word to describe in a friendly way A Fool.
I don't use cantonese nor chinese
when writing in english forums or
newsgroups.
As I like to find fun things in my dotage :-)
Mr Man-wai Chang seems to be unaware of the Irish English as spoken by
Irish.
Probably in the same way that I think people from China just speak Chinese
:-/
Info:
Irish Gaelic is the native language of Ireland, but because of history,
they also speak good Anglo English, but with their own unique and
wonderful colloquialisms. :-)
D.
Nb: It's so easy these days... The Google AI will tell you what Eejits
means.
Nb2: For fun I used the AI to tell me what a "toylet" is...
How urinatingly interesting...
D.
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