• A Captcha window problem

    From Dnews@dnews@triffid.co.uk to alt.comp.software.firefox on Thu Jul 2 10:59:11 2026
    From Newsgroup: alt.comp.software.firefox

    Good day. :-)

    Both SWMBO and I have a weird problem on our respective Win 10 Pro
    machines, and wondered what the answer/solution might be.

    Using the latest Firefox 152.0.4 or earlier versions...

    A website I use, brings up a Captcha window whenever I try to login.

    No matter how many times I click the correct images, it never allows me in.

    But...

    Privately I've contacted on of the site owners, who advises...
    "...there should be no captcha on our website."

    We have an ongoing discussion about it, but I though asking here might
    throw up a few new ideas.

    The old cookies for that site have been deleted, Firefox quit and re-run, visited the site and tried to login again.

    Same old an infinite Captcha where one should not exist.

    I've been to the Firefox history and deleted all references to that site.
    No change.

    Any useful thoughts please?
    Thanks
    D.


    Nb: I've also tried with ABP and uBlock Origin switched off for that site.
    Same result.

    D.

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  • From Andy Burns@usenet@andyburns.uk to alt.comp.software.firefox on Thu Jul 2 11:07:44 2026
    From Newsgroup: alt.comp.software.firefox

    Dnews wrote:

    A website I use, brings up a Captcha window whenever I try to login.

    tried ctrl-F5 ?

    No matter how many times I click the correct images, it never allows me in.

    Ignoring whether it should, or should not, have a captcha, sometimes the
    audio version seems easier to "solve"
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  • From VanguardLH@V@nguard.LH to alt.comp.software.firefox on Thu Jul 2 05:42:34 2026
    From Newsgroup: alt.comp.software.firefox

    Dnews <dnews@triffid.co.uk> wrote:

    Both SWMBO and I have a weird problem on our respective Win 10 Pro
    machines, and wondered what the answer/solution might be.

    Using the latest Firefox 152.0.4 or earlier versions...

    A website I use, brings up a Captcha window whenever I try to login.

    No matter how many times I click the correct images, it never allows me in.

    But...

    Privately I've contacted on of the site owners, who advises...
    "...there should be no captcha on our website."

    We have an ongoing discussion about it, but I though asking here might
    throw up a few new ideas.

    The old cookies for that site have been deleted, Firefox quit and re-run, visited the site and tried to login again.

    Same old an infinite Captcha where one should not exist.

    I've been to the Firefox history and deleted all references to that site.
    No change.

    Any useful thoughts please?
    Thanks
    D.

    Nb: I've also tried with ABP and uBlock Origin switched off for that site. Same result.

    D.


    Firefox has an inbuilt adblock list from Disconnect.me. Go into
    settings under Enhanced Tracking Protection, and disable it. There is
    no disable button, so you have to select Custom to deselect all the
    filters. If that doesn't help, go back to whatever ETP level you had
    before.

    Purge all locally cached data except passwords. Tis possible you saved
    some site preferences in DOM storage, and clearing all history gets rid
    of cached pages and DOM storage.

    https://support.mozilla.org/en-US/kb/delete-browsing-search-download-history-firefox#w_how-do-i-clear-my-history

    Select them all, including site preferences. You want to be sure when
    you reload Firefox that you retrieve a fresh and full set of web pages
    from the website, not something you cached on prior visits.

    The CAPTCHA only appears when you try to login, not when you first visit
    their home page? Could be the website is using someone else's scripts
    to do logins. They just bundle it into their setup without knowing just
    what it does. Just because the website admin doesn't know doesn't mean
    he coded the web pages. Even the devs might know if they're rolling in
    someone else's library or scripts to handle the login.

    Is it a secret site? Does the CAPTCHA show up when you land at their
    home page? Does it show up when the login page appears, but you haven't
    yet attempted to enter your login credentials? Knowing the site, but
    not having to enter the login, would let others test if they also see
    the interfering CAPTCHA.

    A problem with many CAPTCHAs is they have preselected tiles you are to
    select which really do not match what they tell you on what to click.
    They may say to click on all tiles showing motorcycles, but the end of a handlebar just squeaks into a tile, but the code doesn't accept that
    tile despite you can see a wee bit of the handlebar there. Also, some
    CAPTCHAs are set up so when you click on the proper tiles, those tiles
    change, and some of them might again show on what you're supposed to
    click, so you have to click on those tiles again. There are 6 matching
    tiles, you click on all 6, all 6 change to a different image, and maybe
    3 of them have the object you're supposed to click on again.

    As Andy mentioned, some CAPTCHAs have an audio link you can click, but
    that's usually when you're supposed to fill in a text box. You can't
    read the characters they show you, and repeated cycling through
    different fonts doesn't make it any more legible, so the audio cue might
    let you hear what are the characters to enter the correct ones into the
    text box.

    There are different types of CAPTCHAs. Those with a set of image tiles
    you're supposed to click on, those that show a string that is usually unreadable to bots that you enter in a text box, those that have you do
    a math calculation, those that have you press and hold the mouse while a progress bar fills up, and so on.
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  • From Carlos E. R.@robin_listas@es.invalid to alt.comp.software.firefox on Thu Jul 2 12:51:49 2026
    From Newsgroup: alt.comp.software.firefox

    On 2026-07-02 11:59, Dnews wrote:
    Any useful thoughts please?

    Try with a new FFx profile

    Try with another browser.
    --
    Cheers,
    Carlos E.R.
    ESEfc-Efc+, EUEfc-Efc|;
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  • From Jeff Layman@Jeff@invalid.invalid to alt.comp.software.firefox on Thu Jul 2 15:46:30 2026
    From Newsgroup: alt.comp.software.firefox

    On 02/07/2026 10:59, Dnews wrote:
    Good day. :-)

    Both SWMBO and I have a weird problem on our respective Win 10 Pro
    machines, and wondered what the answer/solution might be.

    Using the latest Firefox 152.0.4 or earlier versions...

    A website I use, brings up a Captcha window whenever I try to login.

    No matter how many times I click the correct images, it never allows me in.

    But...

    Privately I've contacted on of the site owners, who advises...
    "...there should be no captcha on our website."

    We have an ongoing discussion about it, but I though asking here might
    throw up a few new ideas.

    The old cookies for that site have been deleted, Firefox quit and re-run, visited the site and tried to login again.

    Same old an infinite Captcha where one should not exist.

    I've been to the Firefox history and deleted all references to that site.
    No change.

    Any useful thoughts please?
    Thanks
    D.


    Nb: I've also tried with ABP and uBlock Origin switched off for that site. Same result.

    Have you tried clearing the cache?
    Settings | Privacy and security | Browsing data
    You can clear browsing data for all sites or specific sites.
    --
    Jeff
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  • From Dnews@dnews@triffid.co.uk to alt.comp.software.firefox on Thu Jul 2 15:53:27 2026
    From Newsgroup: alt.comp.software.firefox

    In article <namrjrF5l04U1@mid.individual.net>,
    Andy Burns <usenet@andyburns.uk> wrote:
    Dnews wrote:

    A website I use, brings up a Captcha window whenever I try to login.

    tried ctrl-F5 ?

    No matter how many times I click the correct images, it never allows
    me in.

    Ignoring whether it should, or should not, have a captcha, sometimes the audio version seems easier to "solve"

    That's the only way I can get in, but sometimes the sound messages are
    mumbled, or full of mush, so not understandable.

    D.

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  • From Dnews@dnews@triffid.co.uk to alt.comp.software.firefox on Thu Jul 2 15:57:42 2026
    From Newsgroup: alt.comp.software.firefox

    In article <namu66F46ppU1@mid.individual.net>,
    Carlos E. R. <robin_listas@es.invalid> wrote:
    On 2026-07-02 11:59, Dnews wrote:
    Any useful thoughts please?

    Try with a new FFx profile

    Tried that with my test profile, no change.

    Try with another browser.

    Done that with MS-Edge, no change.

    Additionally MS-Edges is so little used, I've never been to the particular
    site in question using that browser.

    D.

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  • From Mr. Man-wai Chang@toylet.toylet@gmail.com to alt.comp.software.firefox on Thu Jul 2 23:23:33 2026
    From Newsgroup: alt.comp.software.firefox

    On 7/2/2026 5:59 PM, Dnews wrote:

    A website I use, brings up a Captcha window whenever I try to login.

    No matter how many times I click the correct images, it never allows me in.

    What is the website's URL?

    Some web-forums program (and routers)
    have use captcha to deter repeated
    login attempts.

    Does that website use Cloudflare
    or alike as firewall frontend?
    --

    @~@ Simplicity is Beauty! Remain silent! Drink, Blink, Stretch!
    / v \ May the Force and farces be with you! Live long and prosper!!
    /( _ )\ https://sites.google.com/site/changmw/
    ^ ^ https://github.com/changmw/changmw
    The game is afoot... Meow...
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  • From Mr. Man-wai Chang@toylet.toylet@gmail.com to alt.comp.software.firefox on Thu Jul 2 23:25:57 2026
    From Newsgroup: alt.comp.software.firefox

    On 7/2/2026 5:59 PM, Dnews wrote:

    Privately I've contacted on of the site owners, who advises...
    "...there should be no captcha on our website."

    We have an ongoing discussion about it, but I though asking here might
    throw up a few new ideas.

    The old cookies for that site have been deleted, Firefox quit and re-run, visited the site and tried to login again.

    Same old an infinite Captcha where one should not exist.

    I've been to the Firefox history and deleted all references to that site.
    No change.

    Nb: I've also tried with ABP and uBlock Origin switched off for that site. Same result.

    Those Captcha stuffs have nothing
    to do with Firefox. Firefox is just
    a HTTP client/terminal, following
    "commands" from web servers and
    render them on users' screen.
    --

    @~@ Simplicity is Beauty! Remain silent! Drink, Blink, Stretch!
    / v \ May the Force and farces be with you! Live long and prosper!!
    /( _ )\ https://sites.google.com/site/changmw/
    ^ ^ https://github.com/changmw/changmw
    The game is afoot... Meow...
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  • From R Daneel Olivaw@Danni@hyperspace.vogon.gov.invalid to alt.comp.software.firefox on Thu Jul 2 19:20:28 2026
    From Newsgroup: alt.comp.software.firefox

    Mr. Man-wai Chang wrote:
    On 7/2/2026 5:59 PM, Dnews wrote:

    A website I use, brings up a Captcha window whenever I try to login.

    No matter how many times I click the correct images, it never allows
    me in.

    What is the website's URL?

    Some web-forums program (and routers)
    have use captcha to deter repeated
    login attempts.

    Does that website use Cloudflare
    or alike as firewall frontend?




    Cloudflare can be configured to require Capchas, and the company is not
    that good when it comes to testing their updates on non-mainstream
    browsers, which in their case probably means anything which is not
    Chrome or Edge.
    If the site owner has made a mistake with the configuration (and uses
    Chrome or Edge) they may not even be aware that their site can require a Capcha. I know a site where something like this actually happened
    around two years ago, the guy who runs the site really knows what he's
    doing and the Capchas were a mistake by Cloudflare.
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  • From Carlos E. R.@robin_listas@es.invalid to alt.comp.software.firefox on Thu Jul 2 22:44:47 2026
    From Newsgroup: alt.comp.software.firefox

    On 2026-07-02 16:57, Dnews wrote:
    In article <namu66F46ppU1@mid.individual.net>,
    Carlos E. R. <robin_listas@es.invalid> wrote:
    On 2026-07-02 11:59, Dnews wrote:
    Any useful thoughts please?

    Try with a new FFx profile

    Tried that with my test profile, no change.

    Try with another browser.

    Done that with MS-Edge, no change.

    Additionally MS-Edges is so little used, I've never been to the particular site in question using that browser.

    D.


    Typically, when a site behaves strange or badly in FFx, I try with
    Chrome, because chances are the designers only tested that one.
    --
    Cheers,
    Carlos E.R.
    ESEfc-Efc+, EUEfc-Efc|;
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  • From The Real Bev@bashley101@gmail.com to alt.comp.software.firefox on Thu Jul 2 19:24:17 2026
    From Newsgroup: alt.comp.software.firefox

    On 7/2/26 13:44, Carlos E. R. wrote:
    On 2026-07-02 16:57, Dnews wrote:
    In article <namu66F46ppU1@mid.individual.net>,
    Carlos E. R. <robin_listas@es.invalid> wrote:
    On 2026-07-02 11:59, Dnews wrote:
    Any useful thoughts please?

    Try with a new FFx profile

    Tried that with my test profile, no change.

    Try with another browser.

    Done that with MS-Edge, no change.

    Additionally MS-Edges is so little used, I've never been to the particular >> site in question using that browser.

    Typically, when a site behaves strange or badly in FFx, I try with
    Chrome, because chances are the designers only tested that one.

    Some captchas are completely invisible to FF. You click on a 'submit'
    or equivalent and nothing happens. Works with chrome, except chrome
    (old, I can't install a newer one on my old hardware) will do something
    that grabs the CPU and crashes the system unless I choose the untweaked profile. IMDB won't work at all on FF and is iffy on Chrome.

    Life used to be a lot simpler.
    --
    Cheers, Bev
    When you stop bitching you start dying.
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  • From Mr. Man-wai Chang@toylet.toylet@gmail.com to alt.comp.software.firefox,alt.conspiracy,alt.politics.org.fbi on Fri Jul 3 12:30:32 2026
    From Newsgroup: alt.comp.software.firefox

    On 7/3/2026 1:20 AM, R Daneel Olivaw wrote:

    Cloudflare can be configured to require Capchas, and...
    doing and the Capchas were a mistake by Cloudflare.


    Don't forget about government intervention!!
    All governments might suddenly wanna kill U!
    --

    @~@ Simplicity is Beauty! Remain silent! Drink, Blink, Stretch!
    / v \ May the Force and farces be with you! Live long and prosper!!
    /( _ )\ https://sites.google.com/site/changmw/
    ^ ^ https://github.com/changmw/changmw
    The game is afoot... Meow...
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  • From Mr. Man-wai Chang@toylet.toylet@gmail.com to alt.comp.software.firefox,alt.conspiracy,alt.politics.org.fbi,alt.english.usage,alt.usage.english on Fri Jul 3 12:32:56 2026
    From Newsgroup: alt.comp.software.firefox

    On 7/3/2026 12:30 PM, Mr. Man-wai Chang wrote:
    On 7/3/2026 1:20 AM, R Daneel Olivaw wrote:

    Cloudflare can be configured to require Capchas, and...
    doing and the Capchas were a mistake by Cloudflare.

    Don't forget about government intervention!!
    All governments might suddenly wanna kill U!


    INTERVENTIONE+!uuc(t|Uo2o)t++*!>N+Uoeiu-i*-Roa+ <https://dictionary.cambridge.org/zht/%E8%A9%9E%E5%85%B8/%E8%8B%B1%E8%AA%9E-%E6%BC%A2%E8%AA%9E-%E7%B9%81%E9%AB%94/intervention>
    --

    @~@ Simplicity is Beauty! Remain silent! Drink, Blink, Stretch!
    / v \ May the Force and farces be with you! Live long and prosper!!
    /( _ )\ https://sites.google.com/site/changmw/
    ^ ^ https://github.com/changmw/changmw
    The game is afoot... Meow...
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  • From Dnews@dnews@triffid.co.uk to alt.comp.software.firefox on Fri Jul 3 07:37:58 2026
    From Newsgroup: alt.comp.software.firefox

    In article <11276gh$33328$1@dont-email.me>,
    The Real Bev <bashley101@gmail.com> wrote:

    [Snip]

    Some captchas are completely invisible to FF. You click on a 'submit'
    or equivalent and nothing happens. Works with chrome, except chrome
    (old, I can't install a newer one on my old hardware) will do something
    that grabs the CPU and crashes the system unless I choose the untweaked profile. IMDB won't work at all on FF and is iffy on Chrome.

    Life used to be a lot simpler.

    That is so true. :-)

    The boss man of the site is asking his Tech bods to have a looksee... So
    I'm just gonna get on with life and leave it to them.

    D.

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  • From Retirednoguilt@HapilyRetired@fakeaddress.invalid to alt.comp.software.firefox on Fri Jul 3 09:58:40 2026
    From Newsgroup: alt.comp.software.firefox

    On 7/2/2026 10:24 PM, The Real Bev wrote:
    On 7/2/26 13:44, Carlos E. R. wrote:
    On 2026-07-02 16:57, Dnews wrote:
    In article <namu66F46ppU1@mid.individual.net>,
    Carlos E. R. <robin_listas@es.invalid> wrote:
    On 2026-07-02 11:59, Dnews wrote:
    Any useful thoughts please?

    Try with a new FFx profile

    Tried that with my test profile, no change.

    Try with another browser.

    Done that with MS-Edge, no change.

    Additionally MS-Edges is so little used, I've never been to the particular >>> site in question using that browser.

    Typically, when a site behaves strange or badly in FFx, I try with
    Chrome, because chances are the designers only tested that one.

    Some captchas are completely invisible to FF. You click on a 'submit'
    or equivalent and nothing happens. Works with chrome, except chrome
    (old, I can't install a newer one on my old hardware) will do something
    that grabs the CPU and crashes the system unless I choose the untweaked profile. IMDB won't work at all on FF and is iffy on Chrome.

    Life used to be a lot simpler.

    I have no problem getting to IMDB with the latest FF. However, I get
    there indirectly. I have IMDB in my list of search engines in the
    appropriate location in FF settings. I generally know which film I want
    to search on so I put the name of that film in the search bar, select
    IMDB from the drop down search choices, and no problem!
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  • From The Real Bev@bashley101@gmail.com to alt.comp.software.firefox on Fri Jul 3 08:08:57 2026
    From Newsgroup: alt.comp.software.firefox

    On 7/3/26 06:58, Retirednoguilt wrote:
    On 7/2/2026 10:24 PM, The Real Bev wrote:
    On 7/2/26 13:44, Carlos E. R. wrote:
    On 2026-07-02 16:57, Dnews wrote:
    In article <namu66F46ppU1@mid.individual.net>,
    Carlos E. R. <robin_listas@es.invalid> wrote:
    On 2026-07-02 11:59, Dnews wrote:
    Any useful thoughts please?

    Try with a new FFx profile

    Tried that with my test profile, no change.

    Try with another browser.

    Done that with MS-Edge, no change.

    Additionally MS-Edges is so little used, I've never been to the particular >>>> site in question using that browser.

    Typically, when a site behaves strange or badly in FFx, I try with
    Chrome, because chances are the designers only tested that one.

    Some captchas are completely invisible to FF. You click on a 'submit'
    or equivalent and nothing happens. Works with chrome, except chrome
    (old, I can't install a newer one on my old hardware) will do something
    that grabs the CPU and crashes the system unless I choose the untweaked
    profile. IMDB won't work at all on FF and is iffy on Chrome.

    Life used to be a lot simpler.

    I have no problem getting to IMDB with the latest FF. However, I get
    there indirectly. I have IMDB in my list of search engines in the appropriate location in FF settings. I generally know which film I want
    to search on so I put the name of that film in the search bar, select
    IMDB from the drop down search choices, and no problem!

    If I contrul-u, the generated blank page shows that it thinks that
    javascript is disabled. It's not.
    --
    Cheers, Bev
    Don't tax me. Don't tax thee. Tax that man behind the tree.
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  • From Retirednoguilt@HapilyRetired@fakeaddress.invalid to alt.comp.software.firefox on Sat Jul 4 10:11:21 2026
    From Newsgroup: alt.comp.software.firefox

    On 7/3/2026 11:08 AM, The Real Bev wrote:
    On 7/3/26 06:58, Retirednoguilt wrote:
    On 7/2/2026 10:24 PM, The Real Bev wrote:
    On 7/2/26 13:44, Carlos E. R. wrote:
    On 2026-07-02 16:57, Dnews wrote:
    In article <namu66F46ppU1@mid.individual.net>,
    Carlos E. R. <robin_listas@es.invalid> wrote:
    On 2026-07-02 11:59, Dnews wrote:
    Any useful thoughts please?

    Try with a new FFx profile

    Tried that with my test profile, no change.

    Try with another browser.

    Done that with MS-Edge, no change.

    Additionally MS-Edges is so little used, I've never been to the particular
    site in question using that browser.

    Typically, when a site behaves strange or badly in FFx, I try with
    Chrome, because chances are the designers only tested that one.

    Some captchas are completely invisible to FF. You click on a 'submit'
    or equivalent and nothing happens. Works with chrome, except chrome
    (old, I can't install a newer one on my old hardware) will do something >>> that grabs the CPU and crashes the system unless I choose the untweaked >>> profile. IMDB won't work at all on FF and is iffy on Chrome.

    Life used to be a lot simpler.

    I have no problem getting to IMDB with the latest FF. However, I get
    there indirectly. I have IMDB in my list of search engines in the
    appropriate location in FF settings. I generally know which film I want
    to search on so I put the name of that film in the search bar, select
    IMDB from the drop down search choices, and no problem!

    If I contrul-u, the generated blank page shows that it thinks that javascript is disabled. It's not.

    By any chance, have you installed the same ad blocker or privacy
    protector add-on to both FF and Edge? Have you tried using FF in the "troubleshoot" mode (Help -> Troubleshoot mode)?
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  • From The Real Bev@bashley101@gmail.com to alt.comp.software.firefox on Sat Jul 4 10:09:18 2026
    From Newsgroup: alt.comp.software.firefox

    On 7/4/26 07:11, Retirednoguilt wrote:
    On 7/3/2026 11:08 AM, The Real Bev wrote:
    On 7/3/26 06:58, Retirednoguilt wrote:
    On 7/2/2026 10:24 PM, The Real Bev wrote:
    On 7/2/26 13:44, Carlos E. R. wrote:
    On 2026-07-02 16:57, Dnews wrote:
    In article <namu66F46ppU1@mid.individual.net>,
    Carlos E. R. <robin_listas@es.invalid> wrote:
    On 2026-07-02 11:59, Dnews wrote:
    Any useful thoughts please?

    Try with a new FFx profile

    Tried that with my test profile, no change.

    Try with another browser.

    Done that with MS-Edge, no change.

    Additionally MS-Edges is so little used, I've never been to the particular
    site in question using that browser.

    Typically, when a site behaves strange or badly in FFx, I try with
    Chrome, because chances are the designers only tested that one.

    Some captchas are completely invisible to FF. You click on a 'submit' >>>> or equivalent and nothing happens. Works with chrome, except chrome
    (old, I can't install a newer one on my old hardware) will do something >>>> that grabs the CPU and crashes the system unless I choose the untweaked >>>> profile. IMDB won't work at all on FF and is iffy on Chrome.

    Life used to be a lot simpler.

    I have no problem getting to IMDB with the latest FF. However, I get
    there indirectly. I have IMDB in my list of search engines in the
    appropriate location in FF settings. I generally know which film I want >>> to search on so I put the name of that film in the search bar, select
    IMDB from the drop down search choices, and no problem!

    If I contrul-u, the generated blank page shows that it thinks that
    javascript is disabled. It's not.

    By any chance, have you installed the same ad blocker or privacy
    protector add-on to both FF and Edge? Have you tried using FF in the "troubleshoot" mode (Help -> Troubleshoot mode)?

    No, but I will. Generally the first-level 'help' anywhere is only of
    use to people who didn't read the instructions so I rarely use it.
    --
    Cheers, Bev
    "Once you've provoked a few people into publicly swearing they are
    going to hunt you down and kill you, the thrill wears off."
    -Elric of Imrryr


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  • From The Real Bev@bashley101@gmail.com to alt.comp.software.firefox on Sat Jul 4 10:19:18 2026
    From Newsgroup: alt.comp.software.firefox

    On 7/4/26 10:09, The Real Bev wrote:
    On 7/4/26 07:11, Retirednoguilt wrote:
    On 7/3/2026 11:08 AM, The Real Bev wrote:
    On 7/3/26 06:58, Retirednoguilt wrote:
    On 7/2/2026 10:24 PM, The Real Bev wrote:
    On 7/2/26 13:44, Carlos E. R. wrote:
    On 2026-07-02 16:57, Dnews wrote:
    In article <namu66F46ppU1@mid.individual.net>,
    Carlos E. R. <robin_listas@es.invalid> wrote:
    On 2026-07-02 11:59, Dnews wrote:
    Any useful thoughts please?

    Try with a new FFx profile

    Tried that with my test profile, no change.

    Try with another browser.

    Done that with MS-Edge, no change.

    Additionally MS-Edges is so little used, I've never been to the particular
    site in question using that browser.

    Typically, when a site behaves strange or badly in FFx, I try with >>>>>> Chrome, because chances are the designers only tested that one.

    Some captchas are completely invisible to FF. You click on a 'submit' >>>>> or equivalent and nothing happens. Works with chrome, except chrome >>>>> (old, I can't install a newer one on my old hardware) will do something >>>>> that grabs the CPU and crashes the system unless I choose the untweaked >>>>> profile. IMDB won't work at all on FF and is iffy on Chrome.

    Life used to be a lot simpler.

    I have no problem getting to IMDB with the latest FF. However, I get
    there indirectly. I have IMDB in my list of search engines in the
    appropriate location in FF settings. I generally know which film I want >>>> to search on so I put the name of that film in the search bar, select
    IMDB from the drop down search choices, and no problem!

    If I contrul-u, the generated blank page shows that it thinks that
    javascript is disabled. It's not.

    By any chance, have you installed the same ad blocker or privacy
    protector add-on to both FF and Edge? Have you tried using FF in the
    "troubleshoot" mode (Help -> Troubleshoot mode)?

    No, but I will. Generally the first-level 'help' anywhere is only of
    use to people who didn't read the instructions so I rarely use it.

    OK, I just tried that with IMDB and it seemed to work. The problem is
    that it requires a restart -- not a deal-killer, just an annoyance,
    especially since it kills my tabs-at-the-side thing and the first time
    that happened I couldn't remember how to get it back. Perhaps there's
    an extension that throws up a new "virgin" window...
    --
    Cheers, Bev
    "Once you've provoked a few people into publicly swearing they are
    going to hunt you down and kill you, the thrill wears off."
    -Elric of Imrryr


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  • From The Real Bev@bashley101@gmail.com to alt.comp.software.firefox on Sat Jul 4 10:32:56 2026
    From Newsgroup: alt.comp.software.firefox

    On 7/4/26 10:19, The Real Bev wrote:
    On 7/4/26 10:09, The Real Bev wrote:
    On 7/4/26 07:11, Retirednoguilt wrote:
    On 7/3/2026 11:08 AM, The Real Bev wrote:
    On 7/3/26 06:58, Retirednoguilt wrote:
    On 7/2/2026 10:24 PM, The Real Bev wrote:
    On 7/2/26 13:44, Carlos E. R. wrote:
    On 2026-07-02 16:57, Dnews wrote:
    In article <namu66F46ppU1@mid.individual.net>,
    Carlos E. R. <robin_listas@es.invalid> wrote:
    On 2026-07-02 11:59, Dnews wrote:
    Any useful thoughts please?

    Try with a new FFx profile

    Tried that with my test profile, no change.

    Try with another browser.

    Done that with MS-Edge, no change.

    Additionally MS-Edges is so little used, I've never been to the particular
    site in question using that browser.

    Typically, when a site behaves strange or badly in FFx, I try with >>>>>>> Chrome, because chances are the designers only tested that one.

    Some captchas are completely invisible to FF. You click on a 'submit' >>>>>> or equivalent and nothing happens. Works with chrome, except chrome >>>>>> (old, I can't install a newer one on my old hardware) will do something >>>>>> that grabs the CPU and crashes the system unless I choose the untweaked >>>>>> profile. IMDB won't work at all on FF and is iffy on Chrome.

    Life used to be a lot simpler.

    I have no problem getting to IMDB with the latest FF. However, I get >>>>> there indirectly. I have IMDB in my list of search engines in the
    appropriate location in FF settings. I generally know which film I want >>>>> to search on so I put the name of that film in the search bar, select >>>>> IMDB from the drop down search choices, and no problem!

    If I contrul-u, the generated blank page shows that it thinks that
    javascript is disabled. It's not.

    By any chance, have you installed the same ad blocker or privacy
    protector add-on to both FF and Edge? Have you tried using FF in the
    "troubleshoot" mode (Help -> Troubleshoot mode)?

    No, but I will. Generally the first-level 'help' anywhere is only of
    use to people who didn't read the instructions so I rarely use it.

    OK, I just tried that with IMDB and it seemed to work. The problem is
    that it requires a restart -- not a deal-killer, just an annoyance, especially since it kills my tabs-at-the-side thing and the first time
    that happened I couldn't remember how to get it back. Perhaps there's
    an extension that throws up a new "virgin" window...
    Nope, but I created a virgin profile so I can just keep that version of
    FF running for emergencies while I actually use the REAL one. My choice
    of extensions causes a number of problems, but I've pared the list down
    to just the ones I can't live without. Like "mouse pets" so I can find
    the damn cursor! Carry on...
    --
    Cheers, Bev
    "Once you've provoked a few people into publicly swearing they are
    going to hunt you down and kill you, the thrill wears off."
    -Elric of Imrryr


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  • From Dnews@dnews@triffid.co.uk to alt.comp.software.firefox on Sun Jul 5 09:56:54 2026
    From Newsgroup: alt.comp.software.firefox

    In article <5cf278178fdnews@triffid.co.uk>,
    Dnews <dnews@triffid.co.uk> wrote:
    In article <11276gh$33328$1@dont-email.me>,
    The Real Bev <bashley101@gmail.com> wrote:

    [Snip]

    Some captchas are completely invisible to FF. You click on a 'submit'
    or equivalent and nothing happens. Works with chrome, except chrome
    (old, I can't install a newer one on my old hardware) will do
    something that grabs the CPU and crashes the system unless I choose
    the untweaked profile. IMDB won't work at all on FF and is iffy on
    Chrome.

    Life used to be a lot simpler.

    That is so true. :-)

    The boss man of the site is asking his Tech bods to have a looksee... So
    I'm just gonna get on with life and leave it to them.

    D.

    Just a little update... ;-)

    I've not heard back from the site boss man yet about the fact that there
    should not be a Captcha on that particular site... :-/

    Being an "old" man I sometimes kinda forget how things are supposed to
    work on these new fangled computer gadgets... ;-)

    Anyway, a friend who does a lot of serious computing stuff, ran me through
    how that Captcha thingy is supposed to work.

    Suffice to say, even though the site is not supposed to have a Captcha...
    but it appears anyway... I can now process the Captcha crap and get in
    okay.

    Yeehaw! and thanks for all the suggestions presented earlier in the thread.

    D.

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  • From Andy Burns@usenet@andyburns.uk to alt.comp.software.firefox on Sun Jul 5 10:03:30 2026
    From Newsgroup: alt.comp.software.firefox

    Dnews wrote:

    the site is not supposed to have a Captcha... but it appears
    anyway... I can now process the Captcha crap and get in okay.
    The thing that bugs me about captchas, if you're meant to be clicking on
    e.g. bicycles, what if part of the rider's body is in a square, should
    you still click it, what if just a few pixels of bicycle cross into a
    square?
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  • From Dnews@dnews@triffid.co.uk to alt.comp.software.firefox on Sun Jul 5 10:21:03 2026
    From Newsgroup: alt.comp.software.firefox

    In article <nauku4FclkhU1@mid.individual.net>,
    Andy Burns <usenet@andyburns.uk> wrote:
    Dnews wrote:

    the site is not supposed to have a Captcha... but it appears
    anyway... I can now process the Captcha crap and get in okay.

    The thing that bugs me about captchas, if you're meant to be clicking on e.g. bicycles, what if part of the rider's body is in a square, should
    you still click it, what if just a few pixels of bicycle cross into a square?

    Another thing is the scabby nature of some of the images, badly exposed,
    fuzzy etc, so some of the time you can't make out what an images is
    supposed to be. :-(

    D.

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  • From Mr. Man-wai Chang@toylet.toylet@gmail.com to alt.comp.software.firefox on Sun Jul 5 22:54:22 2026
    From Newsgroup: alt.comp.software.firefox

    On 7/5/2026 5:03 PM, Andy Burns wrote:
    Dnews wrote:
    The thing that bugs me about captchas, if you're meant to be clicking on
    e.g. bicycles, what if part of the rider's body is in a square, should
    you still click it, what if just a few pixels of bicycle cross into a
    square?


    is that Captcha actually a driving road test?

    Do you need to wear old-man eye-glasses to see
    them clearly? Check your eyes if necessary. :)


    BTW, is there an Usenet newsgroup for old persons?
    --

    @~@ Simplicity is Beauty! Remain silent! Drink, Blink, Stretch!
    / v \ May the Force and farces be with you! Live long and prosper!!
    /( _ )\ https://sites.google.com/site/changmw/
    ^ ^ https://github.com/changmw/changmw
    The game is afoot... Meow...
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  • From Nobody@jock@soccer.com to alt.comp.software.firefox on Sun Jul 5 08:46:58 2026
    From Newsgroup: alt.comp.software.firefox

    On Sun, 5 Jul 2026 10:03:30 +0100, Andy Burns <usenet@andyburns.uk>
    wrote:
    Dnews wrote:

    the site is not supposed to have a Captcha... but it appears
    anyway... I can now process the Captcha crap and get in okay.
    The thing that bugs me about captchas, if you're meant to be clicking on >e.g. bicycles, what if part of the rider's body is in a square, should
    you still click it, what if just a few pixels of bicycle cross into a >square?
    I wouldn't for any body part. The other is a crap shoot.
    I seem to hit very few Captcha requests... but occasionally the
    possible "few pixels" will lead into a dance of three or four
    different requests before I succeed,
    As for Dnews and the fuzzy wuzzies, that I'd propose is deliberate.
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