• Re: Scroll Bars

    From micky@NONONOmisc07@fmguy.com to alt.comp.software.firefox on Thu Mar 26 16:03:21 2026
    From Newsgroup: alt.comp.software.firefox

    In alt.comp.software.firefox, on Sun, 22 Mar 2026 12:53:48 -0700, "David
    E. Ross" <nobody@nowhere.invalid> wrote:

    Windows 7
    Firefox 115.33.0 esr

    One Web site that I frequently visit suppresses both Firefox's vertical
    and horizontal scroll bars. Is there a setting or preference variable
    to prevent this?

    John, I like your bookmarklet, but do you, or does anyone, have a way to
    make the buttons at the end of scrollbars always show, even when the
    cursor is in the middle of the page?
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  • From John C.@r9jmg0@yahoo.com to alt.comp.software.firefox on Fri Mar 27 03:10:54 2026
    From Newsgroup: alt.comp.software.firefox

    On 26/03/26 01:03 PM, micky wrote:
    In alt.comp.software.firefox, on Sun, 22 Mar 2026 12:53:48 -0700, "David
    E. Ross" <nobody@nowhere.invalid> wrote:

    Windows 7
    Firefox 115.33.0 esr

    One Web site that I frequently visit suppresses both Firefox's vertical
    and horizontal scroll bars. Is there a setting or preference variable
    to prevent this?

    John, I like your bookmarklet, but do you, or does anyone, have a way to
    make the buttons at the end of scrollbars always show, even when the
    cursor is in the middle of the page?

    I'm sorry, I don't know how to do that. However, I did find a better way
    to (in almost all cases) make the scrollbars avoid being "skinnified".
    This method avoids having to click on the bookmarklet to normalize the
    scroll bars: ____________________________________________________________________________

    Prevent websites from making scrollbars skinny

    It is a common frustration when modern web design often prioritizes a "minimalist" look over usability, resulting in those tiny, hard-to-click scrollbars.
    You can override these styles using the About:Config editor. This
    allows you to force the browser to ignore "thin" scrollbar requests from websites and even set a custom width.

    Method 1: Disable "Thin" Scrollbars - This is the most direct way to
    stop websites from shrinking the scrollbar using the scrollbar-width:
    thin CSS property.
    1. In your Firefox address bar, type about:config and press Enter.
    2. Click Accept the Risk and Continue.
    3. In the search box at the top, paste: layout.css.scrollbar-width-thin.disabled
    4. Double-click the result (or click the toggle button) to set it to true.
    5. Refresh your open tabs to see the change.

    Method 2: Force a Custom Thickness - If you want the scrollbars to be
    even chunkier than the default "Auto" size, you can manually override
    the pixel width.
    1. Still in about:config, search for: widget.non-native-theme.scrollbar.size.override
    2. Click the Pencil icon to edit the value.
    3. Change it from 0 to your preferred width in pixels (e.g., 20 or 24
    for a very thick, easy-to-hit bar).
    4. Press Enter or click the checkmark.
    --
    John C. I filter crossposts, various trolls & dizum.com. Doing this
    makes this newsgroup easier to read & more on-topic. Take back the tech companies from India & industry from China.

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  • From David E. Ross@nobody@nowhere.invalid to alt.comp.software.firefox on Fri Mar 27 08:30:55 2026
    From Newsgroup: alt.comp.software.firefox

    On 3/27/2026 3:10 AM, John C. wrote:
    On 26/03/26 01:03 PM, micky wrote:
    In alt.comp.software.firefox, on Sun, 22 Mar 2026 12:53:48 -0700, "David
    E. Ross" <nobody@nowhere.invalid> wrote:

    Windows 7
    Firefox 115.33.0 esr

    One Web site that I frequently visit suppresses both Firefox's vertical
    and horizontal scroll bars. Is there a setting or preference variable
    to prevent this?

    John, I like your bookmarklet, but do you, or does anyone, have a way to
    make the buttons at the end of scrollbars always show, even when the
    cursor is in the middle of the page?

    I'm sorry, I don't know how to do that. However, I did find a better way
    to (in almost all cases) make the scrollbars avoid being "skinnified".
    This method avoids having to click on the bookmarklet to normalize the
    scroll bars: ____________________________________________________________________________

    Prevent websites from making scrollbars skinny

    It is a common frustration when modern web design often prioritizes a "minimalist" look over usability, resulting in those tiny, hard-to-click scrollbars.
    You can override these styles using the About:Config editor. This
    allows you to force the browser to ignore "thin" scrollbar requests from websites and even set a custom width.

    Method 1: Disable "Thin" Scrollbars - This is the most direct way to
    stop websites from shrinking the scrollbar using the scrollbar-width:
    thin CSS property.
    1. In your Firefox address bar, type about:config and press Enter.
    2. Click Accept the Risk and Continue.
    3. In the search box at the top, paste: layout.css.scrollbar-width-thin.disabled
    4. Double-click the result (or click the toggle button) to set it to true.
    5. Refresh your open tabs to see the change.

    Method 2: Force a Custom Thickness - If you want the scrollbars to be
    even chunkier than the default "Auto" size, you can manually override
    the pixel width.
    1. Still in about:config, search for: widget.non-native-theme.scrollbar.size.override
    2. Click the Pencil icon to edit the value.
    3. Change it from 0 to your preferred width in pixels (e.g., 20 or 24
    for a very thick, easy-to-hit bar).
    4. Press Enter or click the checkmark.


    I tried your #1. It did not help. I think the Web page completely
    disabled scroll bars. Furthermore, the positioning arrows on my
    keyboard are non-working on this page. I can vertically scroll only by dragging my cursor. I cannot scroll horizontally although the page has
    content beyond the right edge of the window.
    --

    David E. Ross
    <http://www.rossde.com>

    Trump wants to continue his war against Iran until that
    nation surrenders unconditionally. I thought the U.S.
    learned a hard lesson in Vietnam and Afghanistan.
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  • From micky@NONONOmisc07@fmguy.com to alt.comp.software.firefox on Wed Apr 1 11:47:30 2026
    From Newsgroup: alt.comp.software.firefox

    In alt.comp.software.firefox, on Fri, 27 Mar 2026 08:30:55 -0700, "David
    E. Ross" <nobody@nowhere.invalid> wrote:

    On 3/27/2026 3:10 AM, John C. wrote:
    On 26/03/26 01:03 PM, micky wrote:
    In alt.comp.software.firefox, on Sun, 22 Mar 2026 12:53:48 -0700, "David >>> E. Ross" <nobody@nowhere.invalid> wrote:

    Windows 7
    Firefox 115.33.0 esr

    One Web site that I frequently visit suppresses both Firefox's vertical >>>> and horizontal scroll bars. Is there a setting or preference variable >>>> to prevent this?

    John, I like your bookmarklet, but do you, or does anyone, have a way to >>> make the buttons at the end of scrollbars always show, even when the
    cursor is in the middle of the page?

    I'm sorry, I don't know how to do that. However, I did find a better way
    to (in almost all cases) make the scrollbars avoid being "skinnified".
    This method avoids having to click on the bookmarklet to normalize the
    scroll bars:
    ____________________________________________________________________________ >>
    Prevent websites from making scrollbars skinny

    It is a common frustration when modern web design often prioritizes a
    "minimalist" look over usability, resulting in those tiny, hard-to-click
    scrollbars.
    You can override these styles using the About:Config editor. This
    allows you to force the browser to ignore "thin" scrollbar requests from
    websites and even set a custom width.

    Method 1: Disable "Thin" Scrollbars - This is the most direct way to
    stop websites from shrinking the scrollbar using the scrollbar-width:
    thin CSS property.
    1. In your Firefox address bar, type about:config and press Enter.
    2. Click Accept the Risk and Continue.
    3. In the search box at the top, paste:
    layout.css.scrollbar-width-thin.disabled
    4. Double-click the result (or click the toggle button) to set it to true. >> 5. Refresh your open tabs to see the change.

    Method 2: Force a Custom Thickness - If you want the scrollbars to be
    even chunkier than the default "Auto" size, you can manually override
    the pixel width.
    1. Still in about:config, search for:
    widget.non-native-theme.scrollbar.size.override
    2. Click the Pencil icon to edit the value.
    3. Change it from 0 to your preferred width in pixels (e.g., 20 or 24
    for a very thick, easy-to-hit bar).
    4. Press Enter or click the checkmark.


    I tried your #1. It did not help. I think the Web page completely
    disabled scroll bars. Furthermore, the positioning arrows on my
    keyboard are non-working on this page. I can vertically scroll only by >dragging my cursor. I cannot scroll horizontally although the page has >content beyond the right edge of the window.

    For this and other reasons, I think the golden age of computers is gone.
    The golden age of TV lasted much longer.
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  • From Lawrence =?iso-8859-13?q?D=FFOliveiro?=@ldo@nz.invalid to alt.comp.software.firefox on Sat Apr 4 05:38:49 2026
    From Newsgroup: alt.comp.software.firefox

    On Fri, 27 Mar 2026 08:30:55 -0700, David E. Ross wrote:

    I think the Web page completely disabled scroll bars. Furthermore,
    the positioning arrows on my keyboard are non-working on this page.
    I can vertically scroll only by dragging my cursor. I cannot scroll horizontally although the page has content beyond the right edge of
    the window.

    Does the cursor wheel work?

    Also try shift-cursor-wheel for horizontal scrolling.
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  • From David E. Ross@nobody@nowhere.invalid to alt.comp.software.firefox on Sat Apr 4 09:30:33 2026
    From Newsgroup: alt.comp.software.firefox

    On 4/3/2026 10:38 PM, Lawrence DrCOOliveiro wrote:
    On Fri, 27 Mar 2026 08:30:55 -0700, David E. Ross wrote:

    I think the Web page completely disabled scroll bars. Furthermore,
    the positioning arrows on my keyboard are non-working on this page.
    I can vertically scroll only by dragging my cursor. I cannot scroll
    horizontally although the page has content beyond the right edge of
    the window.

    Does the cursor wheel work?

    Also try shift-cursor-wheel for horizontal scrolling.

    Yes, I can scroll vertically via my mouse wheel. However, I cannot
    scroll horizontally with it; shift-wheel does nothing.
    --
    David E. Ross
    <http://www.rossde.com>
    Trump wants to continue his war against Iran until that
    nation surrenders unconditionally. I thought the U.S.
    learned a hard lesson in Vietnam and Afghanistan.
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