• AI test. Write an app. What app should we write? It needs to be useful.

    From Maria Sophia@mariasophia@comprehension.com to comp.mobile.android,alt.comp.os.windows-10,alt.comp.microsoft.windows on Tue Sep 15 20:43:18 2026
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    AI test. Write an app. What app should we write? It needs to be useful.

    BACKGROUND:
    Having long ago (a few years) published a dozen or so cross-platform
    tutorials on how to write Android apps on Windows using Android Studio,
    and how to test them on Windows (using emulators) and how to install
    them on Android to test on Android (using developer options)...

    Times have changed...

    Even people who have never written an Android app on Windows can now
    do so, as evidenced by this AI written Usenet newsreader named NeReO.
    Subject: New Android NewsReader Open-source - *NeReO* 1.3.7
    From: MCSM <despammed@mcsm.anonaddy.me>
    Newsgroups: alt.comp.software.newsreaders,news.software.readers,comp.mobile.android
    Message-ID: <mn.7aa87ea991fcb2e6.0@mcsm.org>
    Organization: mcsm.org
    X-Newsreader: MesNews/1.08.06.00-it

    On SourceForge:
    https://sourceforge.net/projects/nereo/files/1.3.7/

    Emboldened by the fact that the missing functionali8ty of a decent
    newsreader was unabashedly created using AI, and having written a dozen tutorials on how to (conventionally) write an Android program (with that
    source code having been already posted previously in earlier c.m.a threads)

    What would be a generally useful yet simple-enough functionality to write.
    It shouldn't already exist (otherwise it would be a wasted investment).

    What app functionality do you wish exists on Android but which doesn't yet? Best if it is a cross-platform functionality between Windows & Android.
    --
    On Usenet, the best ideas often come from someone else's software needs.
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  • From Hank Rogers@Hank@nospam.invalid to comp.mobile.android,alt.comp.os.windows-10,alt.comp.microsoft.windows on Tue Sep 15 16:55:11 2026
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    Maria Sophia wrote on 9/15/2026 3:43 PM:
    AI test. Write an app. What app should we write? It needs to be useful.

    BACKGROUND:
    Having long ago (a few years) published a dozen or so cross-platform
    tutorials on how to write Android apps on Windows using Android Studio,
    and how to test them on Windows (using emulators) and how to install
    them on Android to test on Android (using developer options)...

    Times have changed...

    Even people who have never written an Android app on Windows can now
    do so, as evidenced by this AI written Usenet newsreader named NeReO.
    Subject: New Android NewsReader Open-source - *NeReO* 1.3.7
    From: MCSM <despammed@mcsm.anonaddy.me>
    Newsgroups: alt.comp.software.newsreaders,news.software.readers,comp.mobile.android
    Message-ID: <mn.7aa87ea991fcb2e6.0@mcsm.org>
    Organization: mcsm.org
    X-Newsreader: MesNews/1.08.06.00-it

    On SourceForge:
    https://sourceforge.net/projects/nereo/files/1.3.7/

    Emboldened by the fact that the missing functionali8ty of a decent
    newsreader was unabashedly created using AI, and having written a dozen tutorials on how to (conventionally) write an Android program (with that source code having been already posted previously in earlier c.m.a threads)

    What would be a generally useful yet simple-enough functionality to write.
    It shouldn't already exist (otherwise it would be a wasted investment).

    What app functionality do you wish exists on Android but which doesn't yet? Best if it is a cross-platform functionality between Windows & Android.


    I don't have an android, but it would be nice if you wrote something
    that would make apple ipads and iphones work better with windows.

    If you could do that, and make it simple enough for commoners to use, I
    think it would provide great value and establish you as a real
    contributor. A hero actually. Apple, so far, functions as a walled
    garden. They try not to work with ANYTHING they didn't sell. I'll
    NEVER buy another apple gadget, but their iphone and ipad is what I
    currently have.

    I really don't think you can do it, but thought I'd mention things of
    great utility in case you're up for a challenge instead of your usual
    bullshit PSAs and flaky tutorials, not to mention your many flame wars
    which take up lots of your time.

    You wouldn't have the time,motivation,or gumption to complete anything
    truly useful.

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  • From T@T@invalid.invalid to comp.mobile.android,alt.comp.os.windows-10,alt.comp.microsoft.windows on Tue Sep 15 16:55:00 2026
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    On 9/15/26 1:43 PM, Maria Sophia wrote:
    AI test. Write an app. What app should we write? It needs to be useful.

    I write a bit in Raku (Perl 6). When I get stuck,
    I typically will ask ChatGPT. So far the advice
    I get back and the explanations are wonderful.

    Just write something you need. Then when you get stuck,
    ask ChatGTP.

    He is not so good at finding punctuation errors though.
    I am forever gettig mixed up with my brackets.


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  • From Paul@nospam@needed.invalid to comp.mobile.android,alt.comp.os.windows-10,alt.comp.microsoft.windows on Wed Sep 16 04:16:34 2026
    From Newsgroup: alt.comp.os.windows-10

    On Tue, 9/15/2026 7:55 PM, T wrote:
    On 9/15/26 1:43 PM, Maria Sophia wrote:
    AI test. Write an app. What app should we write? It needs to be useful.

    I write a bit in Raku (Perl 6).-a When I get stuck,
    I typically will ask ChatGPT.-a So far the advice
    I get back and the explanations are wonderful.

    Just write something you need.-a Then when you get stuck,
    ask ChatGTP.

    He is not so good at finding punctuation errors though.
    I am forever gettig mixed up with my brackets.


    Why not ask the machine for a syntax check ? :-)

    It should, actually, be good at punctuation.
    There is a logic to it, there are plenty of examples
    (reinforcement) in the training set.

    *******

    For extra comedy, ask your LLM-AI to write you a

    Raku lint checker

    and then you would have a standalone tool to check
    your Raku source. You could have it write that
    in some other language if you want, remembering
    that it "likes to write Python programs". I thought that
    was comedy gold, when I asked it what language it
    "liked" to write computer programs in, and it
    waxed on and on about Python. The answer looked
    like an advert. I was expecting an "I can do anything"
    kind of answer, and I was shocked when it somehow
    decided Python was the One Language.

    The machine likes to do anything which is within the
    training set. For example, don't ask it to write APL
    programs, because at the time, there seemed to be nothing
    substantive in the training set.

    It has poor measuring qualities, and it has no idea
    what is in the training set. It can only figure
    that out, indirectly, via High Reasoning mode.
    It can detect it is guessing, while High Reasoning.

    When writing programs, it seems to write a series of comments first.
    Then it fleshes out each comment and writes code. If it doesn't
    have the wherewithall to write a particular subroutine, it can
    leave that as a comment, like it was a lazy student or something.

    subroutine sqrt(x)
    {
    // Put square root code here
    }

    This is one reason, you must skim-read any programs it gives
    you, as it is too sneaky to admit "I whiffed on parts of my assignment".
    It just quietly leaves divots in the turf like that.

    Paul

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  • From DAN@dan@no.spam.thanks to alt.comp.os.windows-10 on Wed Sep 16 19:49:28 2026
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    Hank Rogers wrote:

    I don't have an android, but it would be nice if you wrote something
    that would make apple ipads and iphones work better with windows.

    +1
    Definitely useful, if supporting at least win 10 and 11.
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  • From T@T@invalid.invalid to comp.mobile.android,alt.comp.os.windows-10,alt.comp.microsoft.windows on Wed Sep 16 12:13:20 2026
    From Newsgroup: alt.comp.os.windows-10

    On 9/16/26 1:16 AM, Paul wrote:
    On Tue, 9/15/2026 7:55 PM, T wrote:
    On 9/15/26 1:43 PM, Maria Sophia wrote:
    AI test. Write an app. What app should we write? It needs to be useful.

    I write a bit in Raku (Perl 6).-a When I get stuck,
    I typically will ask ChatGPT.-a So far the advice
    I get back and the explanations are wonderful.

    Just write something you need.-a Then when you get stuck,
    ask ChatGTP.

    He is not so good at finding punctuation errors though.
    I am forever gettig mixed up with my brackets.


    Why not ask the machine for a syntax check ? :-)

    It should, actually, be good at punctuation.
    There is a logic to it, there are plenty of examples
    (reinforcement) in the training set.

    *******

    For extra comedy, ask your LLM-AI to write you a

    Raku lint checker

    and then you would have a standalone tool to check
    your Raku source. You could have it write that
    in some other language if you want, remembering
    that it "likes to write Python programs". I thought that
    was comedy gold, when I asked it what language it
    "liked" to write computer programs in, and it
    waxed on and on about Python. The answer looked
    like an advert. I was expecting an "I can do anything"
    kind of answer, and I was shocked when it somehow
    decided Python was the One Language.

    The machine likes to do anything which is within the
    training set. For example, don't ask it to write APL
    programs, because at the time, there seemed to be nothing
    substantive in the training set.

    It has poor measuring qualities, and it has no idea
    what is in the training set. It can only figure
    that out, indirectly, via High Reasoning mode.
    It can detect it is guessing, while High Reasoning.

    When writing programs, it seems to write a series of comments first.
    Then it fleshes out each comment and writes code. If it doesn't
    have the wherewithall to write a particular subroutine, it can
    leave that as a comment, like it was a lazy student or something.

    subroutine sqrt(x)
    {
    // Put square root code here
    }

    This is one reason, you must skim-read any programs it gives
    you, as it is too sneaky to admit "I whiffed on parts of my assignment".
    It just quietly leaves divots in the turf like that.

    Paul


    My work around it to create the structure first
    with all the brackets in place, then fill the inners
    in.

    Where I get in trouble is with
    if 0 { say "no" } elsif False { say "NO" } else { say "yes" };

    when there are if statement inside the elsif's.

    Raku has no "case" statement, like bash.

    And the syntax checkers tell me here is something wrong
    with the last line of the program instead of where I forgot
    a closing "}". Raku says they are working on it,



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  • From T@T@invalid.invalid to comp.mobile.android,alt.comp.os.windows-10,alt.comp.microsoft.windows on Wed Sep 16 13:12:23 2026
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    On 9/16/26 12:13 PM, T wrote:
    On 9/16/26 1:16 AM, Paul wrote:
    On Tue, 9/15/2026 7:55 PM, T wrote:
    On 9/15/26 1:43 PM, Maria Sophia wrote:
    AI test. Write an app. What app should we write? It needs to be useful. >>>
    I write a bit in Raku (Perl 6).-a When I get stuck,
    I typically will ask ChatGPT.-a So far the advice
    I get back and the explanations are wonderful.

    Just write something you need.-a Then when you get stuck,
    ask ChatGTP.

    He is not so good at finding punctuation errors though.
    I am forever gettig mixed up with my brackets.


    Why not ask the machine for a syntax check ?-a :-)

    It should, actually, be good at punctuation.
    There is a logic to it, there are plenty of examples
    (reinforcement) in the training set.

    *******

    For extra comedy, ask your LLM-AI to write you a

    -a-a-a-a Raku lint checker

    and then you would have a standalone tool to check
    your Raku source. You could have it write that
    in some other language if you want, remembering
    that it "likes to write Python programs". I thought that
    was comedy gold, when I asked it what language it
    "liked" to write computer programs in, and it
    waxed on and on about Python. The answer looked
    like an advert. I was expecting an "I can do anything"
    kind of answer, and I was shocked when it somehow
    decided Python was the One Language.

    The machine likes to do anything which is within the
    training set. For example, don't ask it to write APL
    programs, because at the time, there seemed to be nothing
    substantive in the training set.

    It has poor measuring qualities, and it has no idea
    what is in the training set. It can only figure
    that out, indirectly, via High Reasoning mode.
    It can detect it is guessing, while High Reasoning.

    When writing programs, it seems to write a series of comments first.
    Then it fleshes out each comment and writes code. If it doesn't
    have the wherewithall to write a particular subroutine, it can
    leave that as a comment, like it was a lazy student or something.

    -a-a-a-a subroutine sqrt(x)
    -a-a-a-a {
    -a-a-a-a-a-a-a // Put square root code here
    -a-a-a-a }

    This is one reason, you must skim-read any programs it gives
    you, as it is too sneaky to admit "I whiffed on parts of my assignment".
    It just quietly leaves divots in the turf like that.

    -a-a-a Paul


    My work around it to create the structure first
    with all the brackets in place, then fill the inners
    in.

    Where I get in trouble is with
    -a-a-a if 0 { say "no" } elsif False { say "NO" } else { say "yes" };

    when there are if statement inside the elsif's.

    Raku has no "case" statement, like bash.

    And the syntax checkers tell me here is something wrong
    with the last line of the program instead of where I forgot
    a closing "}".-a Raku says they are working on it,
    It is also my clue it is time to start putting results
    of if and elsif into separate subroutine where the sub
    can "if" to death and I can not get lost.

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  • From Chris@ithinkiam@gmail.com to comp.mobile.android,alt.comp.os.windows-10,alt.comp.microsoft.windows on Thu Sep 17 07:22:38 2026
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    Paul <nospam@needed.invalid> wrote:
    On Tue, 9/15/2026 7:55 PM, T wrote:
    On 9/15/26 1:43 PM, Maria Sophia wrote:
    AI test. Write an app. What app should we write? It needs to be useful.

    I write a bit in Raku (Perl 6).-a When I get stuck,
    I typically will ask ChatGPT.-a So far the advice
    I get back and the explanations are wonderful.

    Just write something you need.-a Then when you get stuck,
    ask ChatGTP.

    He is not so good at finding punctuation errors though.
    I am forever gettig mixed up with my brackets.


    Why not ask the machine for a syntax check ? :-)

    It should, actually, be good at punctuation.
    There is a logic to it, there are plenty of examples
    (reinforcement) in the training set.

    perl is not a closed language and in many circumstances brackets and parentheses are optional. That's what made perl one-liners so powerful.
    This was in perl 5 days and I know perl6 is a different beast so maybe
    it'll work better.

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