Now I am no stranger to programming, I have done it for year with
several different languages. Power Shell has to be the worst thought
out contraction I have ever come across. Rube Goldberg would adore it.
On Wed, 16 Sep 2026 12:05:46 -0700, T wrote:
Now I am no stranger to programming, I have done it for year with
several different languages. Power Shell has to be the worst thought
out contraction I have ever come across. Rube Goldberg would adore it.
My relationship with PowerShell has been cut'n'paste commands that I hope aren't going to brick the system. I'm not big on verbose.
I finally got around to applying this months patches to the Win 11 laptop.
It only rebooted 4 times, with interludes of a screen saying 100% done
while the worm chased his tail for a couple of minutes. Task accomplished, laptop powered down until next month.
Hi All,
W11 Pro 25H2
I had a customer's PC what used WMIC.exe on some custom software.
As of last week it completely stopped functioning.-a M$ use
to let you reinstall WMIC as an optional app, but not any more.
Not in the app list and dism can install it either.
WMI does still appear on the system.
When I restored WMIC.exe from backup, into
-a-a-a-a C:\Windows\SysWOW64\wbem
neither cmd nor File Explorer could find it.
SuperFinder-a did find it right where I put it.
I still could not run it.-a When placed somewhere else, I
could run it, but did not return anything for any command.
So, I switched the program section over to a Power Shell
call to get around the m$ sabotage.
Now I am no stranger to programming, I have done it for year
with several different languages.-a Power Shell has to be
the worst thought out contraction I have ever come across.
Rube Goldberg would adore it.
It is a living.
-T
Hi All,
W11 Pro 25H2
I had a customer's PC what used WMIC.exe on some custom software.
As of last week it completely stopped functioning. M$ use
to let you reinstall WMIC as an optional app, but not any more.
Not in the app list and dism can install it either.
WMI does still appear on the system.
When I restored WMIC.exe from backup, into
C:\Windows\SysWOW64\wbem
neither cmd nor File Explorer could find it.
SuperFinder did find it right where I put it.
I still could not run it. When placed somewhere else, I
could run it, but did not return anything for any command.
I got a notice that Fedora 45 is in Beta testing now.
Where have you been?-a Deprecation started 5 yrs ago. [...]wmic.exe is gone, but there's nothing stopping you calling WMI/CIM from Powershell ... it's a pretty mechanical translation.
2026: The WMIC utility has been removed from currently supported
versions of Windows 11.
My relationship with PowerShell has been cut'n'paste commands that I hope aren't going to brick the system. I'm not big on verbose.
"....winston" wrote:
Where have you been?-a Deprecation started 5 yrs ago. [...]wmic.exe is gone, but there's nothing stopping you calling WMI/CIM from Powershell ... it's a pretty mechanical translation.
2026: The WMIC utility has been removed from currently supported
versions of Windows 11.
$cim = new-cimSession;
get-cimInstance -cimSession $cim -className win32_bios |
-a select select manufacturer, name, serialNumber;
rbowman wrote:
My relationship with PowerShell has been cut'n'paste commands that I hope
aren't going to brick the system. I'm not big on verbose.
I now use Powershell in preference to cmd.exe or cscript.exe for
"system scripts" such as automating imports, or transfers.-a I try to
avoid spawning out to running other command line tools, but use cmdlets wherever possible, that avoids having to parse stdout columns into fields.
Hi All,
W11 Pro 25H2
I had a customer's PC what used WMIC.exe on some custom software.
As of last week it completely stopped functioning.-a M$ use
to let you reinstall WMIC as an optional app, but not any more.
Not in the app list and dism can install it either.
WMI does still appear on the system.
When I restored WMIC.exe from backup, into
-a-a-a-a C:\Windows\SysWOW64\wbem
neither cmd nor File Explorer could find it.
SuperFinder-a did find it right where I put it.
I still could not run it.-a When placed somewhere else, I
could run it, but did not return anything for any command.
So, I switched the program section over to a Power Shell
call to get around the m$ sabotage.
Now I am no stranger to programming, I have done it for year
with several different languages.-a Power Shell has to be
the worst thought out contraction I have ever come across.
Rube Goldberg would adore it.
It is a living.
-T
"....winston" wrote:<winston is killfiled>
$cim = new-cimSession;
get-cimInstance -cimSession $cim -className win32_bios |
-a select select manufacturer, name, serialNumber;
On 9/16/26 12:05 PM, T wrote:
Hi All,
W11 Pro 25H2
I had a customer's PC what used WMIC.exe on some custom software.
As of last week it completely stopped functioning.-a M$ use
to let you reinstall WMIC as an optional app, but not any more.
Not in the app list and dism can install it either.
WMI does still appear on the system.
When I restored WMIC.exe from backup, into
-a-a-a-a-a C:\Windows\SysWOW64\wbem
neither cmd nor File Explorer could find it.
SuperFinder-a did find it right where I put it.
I still could not run it.-a When placed somewhere else, I
could run it, but did not return anything for any command.
So, I switched the program section over to a Power Shell
call to get around the m$ sabotage.
Now I am no stranger to programming, I have done it for year
with several different languages.-a Power Shell has to be
the worst thought out contraction I have ever come across.
Rube Goldberg would adore it.
It is a living.
-T
Just got another call on it today.-a Jeezzz.-a Linux lets you
keep around whatever utilities you want.
On Thu, 9/17/2026 9:21 PM, T wrote:
On 9/16/26 12:05 PM, T wrote:
Hi All,
W11 Pro 25H2
I had a customer's PC what used WMIC.exe on some custom software.
As of last week it completely stopped functioning.-a M$ use
to let you reinstall WMIC as an optional app, but not any more.
Not in the app list and dism can install it either.
WMI does still appear on the system.
When I restored WMIC.exe from backup, into
-a-a-a-a-a C:\Windows\SysWOW64\wbem
neither cmd nor File Explorer could find it.
SuperFinder-a did find it right where I put it.
I still could not run it.-a When placed somewhere else, I
could run it, but did not return anything for any command.
So, I switched the program section over to a Power Shell
call to get around the m$ sabotage.
Now I am no stranger to programming, I have done it for year
with several different languages.-a Power Shell has to be
the worst thought out contraction I have ever come across.
Rube Goldberg would adore it.
It is a living.
-T
Just got another call on it today.-a Jeezzz.-a Linux lets you
keep around whatever utilities you want.
On Linux, any utility that does not have a maintainer, gets removed. Otherwise, it is termed "abandoned".
Everything needs a nominal maintainer, and they have to be
skilled enough to handle security issues.
Some maintainers will tell you flat out, they're only there to
correct spelling mistakes. If there is a major fire, a
need to "rewrite the C in RUST", they'll disappear just
like that.
Xeyes will not be around forever. Will you be rewriting it
so it works in vanilla Wayland/Weston ? That's part of the
problem too, is that "stable/mature" utilities like TVTime,
they needed the sound to be rewritten for PulseAudio and
the graphics have to be rewritten for Wayland. The maintainer
didn't do anything, to deserve that kind of abuse. But
that's what you face, if attempting to keep the same program
or utility around for 40 years.
There are 50,000 packages, and each one has a story...
Yes, GREP has a maintainer.
https://www.gnu.org/software/grep/
https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Category:Jim_Meyering
Paul
Hi All,
W11 Pro 25H2
I had a customer's PC what used WMIC.exe on some custom software.
As of last week it completely stopped functioning.-a M$ use
to let you reinstall WMIC as an optional app, but not any more.
Not in the app list and dism can install it either.
WMI does still appear on the system.
When I restored WMIC.exe from backup, into
-a-a-a-a C:\Windows\SysWOW64\wbem
neither cmd nor File Explorer could find it.
SuperFinder-a did find it right where I put it.
I still could not run it.-a When placed somewhere else, I
could run it, but did not return anything for any command.
So, I switched the program section over to a Power Shell
call to get around the m$ sabotage.
Now I am no stranger to programming, I have done it for year
with several different languages.-a Power Shell has to be
the worst thought out contraction I have ever come across.
Rube Goldberg would adore it.
It is a living.
-T
On 9/18/26 2:22 AM, Paul wrote:
On Thu, 9/17/2026 9:21 PM, T wrote:
On 9/16/26 12:05 PM, T wrote:
Hi All,
W11 Pro 25H2
I had a customer's PC what used WMIC.exe on some custom software.
As of last week it completely stopped functioning.-a M$ use
to let you reinstall WMIC as an optional app, but not any more.
Not in the app list and dism can install it either.
WMI does still appear on the system.
When I restored WMIC.exe from backup, into
-a-a-a-a-a-a C:\Windows\SysWOW64\wbem
neither cmd nor File Explorer could find it.
SuperFinder-a did find it right where I put it.
I still could not run it.-a When placed somewhere else, I
could run it, but did not return anything for any command.
So, I switched the program section over to a Power Shell
call to get around the m$ sabotage.
Now I am no stranger to programming, I have done it for year
with several different languages.-a Power Shell has to be
the worst thought out contraction I have ever come across.
Rube Goldberg would adore it.
It is a living.
-T
Just got another call on it today.-a Jeezzz.-a Linux lets you
keep around whatever utilities you want.
On Linux, any utility that does not have a maintainer, gets removed.
Otherwise, it is termed "abandoned".
Everything needs a nominal maintainer, and they have to be
skilled enough to handle security issues.
Some maintainers will tell you flat out, they're only there to
correct spelling mistakes. If there is a major fire, a
need to "rewrite the C in RUST", they'll disappear just
like that.
Xeyes will not be around forever. Will you be rewriting it
so it works in vanilla Wayland/Weston ? That's part of the
problem too, is that "stable/mature" utilities like TVTime,
they needed the sound to be rewritten for PulseAudio and
the graphics have to be rewritten for Wayland. The maintainer
didn't do anything, to deserve that kind of abuse. But
that's what you face, if attempting to keep the same program
or utility around for 40 years.
There are 50,000 packages, and each one has a story...
Yes, GREP has a maintainer.
-a-a https://www.gnu.org/software/grep/
-a-a https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Category:Jim_Meyering
-a-a-a-a-a Paul
Mostly.-a It depends on how often it gets asked for.-a And you
can go back in the repos and get the SRPM and recompile
it yourself.-a And Linux will not deliberately block you
for using it.
For instance, I use Leafpad ALL THE TIME,-a It is a text only
editor and I can copy and paste trash into it and it remove
all the weird formatting and just give me UTF8.-a Then I can
recopy were I want without crazy things happening.-a Leafpad
has not been maintained for years.
I actually have Leafpad in my right click context menu.
And if you want to use it, they do not put thighs in place
to deny its use, like M$ did with wmic.exe
On 2026-09-23 00:08, T wrote:
And if you want to use it, they do not put thighs in place
to deny its use, like M$ did with wmic.exe
Depending on whose thighs, I might not object to that ...
On 9/22/26 4:29 PM, Java Jive wrote:
On 2026-09-23 00:08, T wrote:
And if you want to use it, they do not put thighs in place
to deny its use, like M$ did with wmic.exe
Depending on whose thighs, I might not object to that ...
Hysterical typo.-a I even proof read it!
On Tue, 9/22/2026 9:58 PM, T wrote:
On 9/22/26 4:29 PM, Java Jive wrote:
On 2026-09-23 00:08, T wrote:
And if you want to use it, they do not put thighs in place
to deny its use, like M$ did with wmic.exe
Depending on whose thighs, I might not object to that ...
Hysterical typo.-a I even proof read it!
If you no longer want to pay staff to do
security maintenance on an executable, then
you have to remove it. I think that's why it is
removed.
In the same way as part of iTunes was considered
too expensive for Apple to keep secure, so they
re-jigged the feature set of iTunes slightly
to make it happen. Maybe that was the QuickTime
video decoder.
Say we were discussing the MicrosoftStore.App .
Since they make money off that, continuity and
maintenance are easy to justify.
Paul
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