• Re: What does "libre" refer to in the context of a software license?

    From Mr. Man-wai Chang@toylet.toylet@gmail.com to alt.comp.freeware,alt.os.linux.mint,comp.os.linux.misc,alt.comp.os.windows-11,alt.comp.os.windows-10 on Tue Jun 30 01:44:56 2026
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    On 6/29/2026 8:59 PM, John C. wrote:

    In software licensing, "libre" refers to freedom, not price. Borrowed
    from Romance languages, it is used to specifically distinguish ...

    LibreOffice - Wikipedia
    <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/LibreOffice>

    LibreOffice vs OpenOffice rCo LibreOffice <https://www.libreoffice.org/libreoffice-vs-openoffice/>
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  • From german newsgroups@usualsuspectrider@gmail.com to alt.comp.freeware,alt.os.linux.mint,comp.os.linux.misc,alt.comp.os.windows-11,alt.comp.os.windows-10 on Tue Jun 30 06:51:27 2026
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    Le 29/06/2026 |a 19:44, Mr. Man-wai Chang a |-crit-a:
    On 6/29/2026 8:59 PM, John C. wrote:

    In software licensing, "libre" refers to freedom, not price. Borrowed
    from Romance languages, it is used to specifically distinguish ...

    LibreOffice - Wikipedia
    <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/LibreOffice>

    LibreOffice vs OpenOffice rCo LibreOffice <https://www.libreoffice.org/libreoffice-vs-openoffice/>


    free means if you want, you could get the source, rewrite it
    et do a another version of the software !
    may be the name will be "caca version" because, a team is
    10000 peoples !
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    Frenchy Friendly, & French touch !

    german
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  • From Mr. Man-wai Chang@toylet.toylet@gmail.com to alt.comp.freeware,alt.os.linux.mint,comp.os.linux.misc,alt.comp.os.windows-11,alt.comp.os.windows-10 on Tue Jun 30 16:04:58 2026
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    On 6/30/2026 12:51 PM, german newsgroups wrote:

    free means if you want, you could get the source, rewrite it
    et do a another version of the software !
    may be the name will be "caca version" because, a team is
    10000 peoples !
    Let me introduce you an english word that's
    very hard to spell and remember:

    ESPIONAGEE+!uuc(t|Uo2o)t++*!>N+Uoeiu-i*-Roa+ <https://dictionary.cambridge.org/zht/%E8%A9%9E%E5%85%B8/%E8%8B%B1%E8%AA%9E-%E6%BC%A2%E8%AA%9E-%E7%B9%81%E9%AB%94/espionage>

    Espionage - Wikipedia
    <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Espionage>

    Meow.... The game is afoot!! :)
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  • From Daniel70@daniel47@nomail.afraid.org to alt.comp.freeware,alt.os.linux.mint,comp.os.linux.misc,alt.comp.os.windows-11,alt.comp.os.windows-10 on Tue Jun 30 20:05:53 2026
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    On 30/06/2026 2:51 pm, german newsgroups wrote:
    Le 29/06/2026 |a 19:44, Mr. Man-wai Chang a |-crit-a:
    On 6/29/2026 8:59 PM, John C. wrote:

    In software licensing, "libre" refers to freedom, not price. Borrowed
    from Romance languages, it is used to specifically distinguish ...

    LibreOffice - Wikipedia
    <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/LibreOffice>

    LibreOffice vs OpenOffice rCo LibreOffice
    <https://www.libreoffice.org/libreoffice-vs-openoffice/>


    free means if you want, you could get the source, rewrite it
    et do a another version of the software !
    may be the name will be "caca version" because, a team is
    10000 peoples !

    Does caca really mean 10,000 (i.e. 100 x 100)??

    I thought 'caca' might have meant what you might find in a Baby's
    nappy!! ;-P .... so a 'caca version' might have been pretty sh%$
    --
    Daniel70
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  • From Charlie Gibbs@cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid to alt.comp.freeware,alt.os.linux.mint,comp.os.linux.misc,alt.comp.os.windows-11,alt.comp.os.windows-10 on Tue Jun 30 18:51:04 2026
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    On 2026-06-30, german newsgroups <usualsuspectrider@gmail.com> wrote:

    Le 29/06/2026 |a 19:44, Mr. Man-wai Chang a |-crit-a:

    On 6/29/2026 8:59 PM, John C. wrote:

    In software licensing, "libre" refers to freedom, not price. Borrowed
    from Romance languages, it is used to specifically distinguish ...

    LibreOffice - Wikipedia
    <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/LibreOffice>

    LibreOffice vs OpenOffice rCo LibreOffice
    <https://www.libreoffice.org/libreoffice-vs-openoffice/>

    free means if you want, you could get the source, rewrite it
    et do a another version of the software !
    may be the name will be "caca version" because, a team is
    10000 peoples !

    Compare "free as in speech" with "free as in beer".
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  • From Daniel70@daniel47@nomail.afraid.org to alt.comp.freeware,alt.os.linux.mint,comp.os.linux.misc,alt.comp.os.windows-11,alt.comp.os.windows-10 on Wed Jul 1 20:28:50 2026
    From Newsgroup: alt.comp.os.windows-11

    On 1/07/2026 4:51 am, Charlie Gibbs wrote:
    On 2026-06-30, german newsgroups <usualsuspectrider@gmail.com> wrote:
    Le 29/06/2026 |a 19:44, Mr. Man-wai Chang a |-crit-a:
    On 6/29/2026 8:59 PM, John C. wrote:

    In software licensing, "libre" refers to freedom, not price. Borrowed
    from Romance languages, it is used to specifically distinguish ...

    LibreOffice - Wikipedia
    <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/LibreOffice>

    LibreOffice vs OpenOffice rCo LibreOffice
    <https://www.libreoffice.org/libreoffice-vs-openoffice/>

    free means if you want, you could get the source, rewrite it
    et do a another version of the software !
    may be the name will be "caca version" because, a team is
    10000 peoples !

    Compare "free as in speech" with "free as in beer".

    To me, "free as in speech" is ME being able to say whatever I want .... whereas with "free as in beer" that's someone wanting to get my
    attention to SELL me something (maybe a brand of beer!!).

    Am I wrong??
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    Daniel70
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  • From J. P. Gilliver@G6JPG@255soft.uk to alt.comp.freeware,alt.os.linux.mint,comp.os.linux.misc,alt.comp.os.windows-11,alt.comp.os.windows-10 on Wed Jul 1 13:20:23 2026
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    On 2026/7/1 11:28:50, Daniel70 wrote:
    On 1/07/2026 4:51 am, Charlie Gibbs wrote:
    On 2026-06-30, german newsgroups <usualsuspectrider@gmail.com> wrote:
    []
    free means if you want, you could get the source, rewrite it
    et do a another version of the software !
    may be the name will be "caca version" because, a team is
    10000 peoples !

    Compare "free as in speech" with "free as in beer".

    To me, "free as in speech" is ME being able to say whatever I want .... whereas with "free as in beer" that's someone wanting to get my
    attention to SELL me something (maybe a brand of beer!!).

    Am I wrong??

    In practice, yes.

    The two "free"s are usually brought up in the context of software; that
    which is "free as in speech", usually applied to open source, means you
    are free to do whatever you want with it, including changing all sorts
    of settings; it usually doesn't cost anything either, though sometimes
    (e. g. some Linux distributions, AIUI) there is a minor charge for the convenience; the point usually being made when the two "free"s are
    brought up is that it's not cost that is the main freedom being
    considered. Free as in beer would be software that's free to download
    and use, but over which you may have little choice about how it works (including settings), or even information on how it works - it usually
    _isn't_ source-code available, for example. A _good_ (IMO) example of free-as-in-beer software is IrfanView (for private use - though Irfan
    does accept donations); there are plenty of bad examples, such as those
    that include malware or at least ad.s and information-grathering (I
    think many "app"s, and browser add-ons, are such). I'll leave others to
    give examples of good (and bad - there must be some!) free-as-in-speech softwares.
    --
    J. P. Gilliver. UMRA: 1960/<1985 MB++G()ALIS-Ch++(p)Ar++T+H+Sh0!:`)DNAf

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  • From Daniel70@daniel47@nomail.afraid.org to alt.comp.freeware,alt.os.linux.mint,comp.os.linux.misc,alt.comp.os.windows-11,alt.comp.os.windows-10 on Thu Jul 2 22:11:23 2026
    From Newsgroup: alt.comp.os.windows-11

    On 1/07/2026 10:20 pm, J. P. Gilliver wrote:
    On 2026/7/1 11:28:50, Daniel70 wrote:
    On 1/07/2026 4:51 am, Charlie Gibbs wrote:
    On 2026-06-30, german newsgroups <usualsuspectrider@gmail.com> wrote:
    []
    free means if you want, you could get the source, rewrite it
    et do a another version of the software !
    may be the name will be "caca version" because, a team is
    10000 peoples !

    Compare "free as in speech" with "free as in beer".

    To me, "free as in speech" is ME being able to say whatever I want ....
    whereas with "free as in beer" that's someone wanting to get my
    attention to SELL me something (maybe a brand of beer!!).

    Am I wrong??

    In practice, yes.

    The two "free"s are usually brought up in the context of software; that
    which is "free as in speech", usually applied to open source, means you
    are free to do whatever you want with it, including changing all sorts
    of settings; it usually doesn't cost anything either, though sometimes
    (e. g. some Linux distributions, AIUI) there is a minor charge for the convenience; the point usually being made when the two "free"s are
    brought up is that it's not cost that is the main freedom being
    considered. Free as in beer would be software that's free to download
    and use, but over which you may have little choice about how it works (including settings), or even information on how it works - it usually _isn't_ source-code available, for example. A _good_ (IMO) example of free-as-in-beer software is IrfanView (for private use - though Irfan
    does accept donations); there are plenty of bad examples, such as those
    that include malware or at least ad.s and information-grathering (I
    think many "app"s, and browser add-ons, are such). I'll leave others to
    give examples of good (and bad - there must be some!) free-as-in-speech softwares.

    Gee Whiz!! Didn't I just type that?? More succinct, or explicit, maybe,
    but the same. ;-P
    --
    Daniel70
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  • From Lawrence =?iso-8859-13?q?D=FFOliveiro?=@ldo@nz.invalid to alt.comp.freeware,alt.os.linux.mint,comp.os.linux.misc,alt.comp.os.windows-11,alt.comp.os.windows-10 on Thu Jul 2 21:07:43 2026
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    On Thu, 2 Jul 2026 22:11:23 +1000, Daniel70 wrote:

    Gee Whiz!! Didn't I just type that?? More succinct, or explicit, maybe,
    but the same. ;-P

    The Four Freedoms: <https://www.fsf.org/blogs/gnu-press/limited-time-only-get-our-new-four-freedoms-shirt-with-an-fsf-membership>
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  • From Lawrence =?iso-8859-13?q?D=FFOliveiro?=@ldo@nz.invalid to alt.comp.freeware,alt.os.linux.mint,comp.os.linux.misc,alt.comp.os.windows-11,alt.comp.os.windows-10 on Fri Jul 3 03:19:01 2026
    From Newsgroup: alt.comp.os.windows-11

    On Thu, 2 Jul 2026 22:11:23 +1000, Daniel70 wrote:

    Gee Whiz!! Didn't I just type that?? More succinct, or explicit,
    maybe, but the same. ;-P

    The Four Freedoms:
    <https://fsfe.org/freesoftware/freesoftware.en.html>.
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