• 2 Recoveries

    From Bill Bradshaw@bradshaw@gci.net to alt.comp.os.windows-11 on Sat Jun 27 09:07:35 2026
    From Newsgroup: alt.comp.os.windows-11

    So I am not sure if Windows 11 needs 2 recoveries. I would like to combine these. Is one of them surplus and not active?
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    <Bill>

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  • From Paul@nospam@needed.invalid to alt.comp.os.windows-11 on Sat Jun 27 20:44:55 2026
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    On Sat, 6/27/2026 1:07 PM, Bill Bradshaw wrote:
    So I am not sure if Windows 11 needs 2 recoveries. I would like to combine these. Is one of them surplus and not active?
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    <Bill>

    Brought to you from Anchorage, Alaska



    This depends on the position. In this case, both recover partitions
    could be attempts at valid ones.

    +----------+---------------------+----------+---------------------+
    | Win10 | Recovery Partition | Win11 | Recovery Partition |
    +----------+---------------------+----------+---------------------+

    In this case, the one closes to the OS is the valid one.

    +----------+---------------------------+---------------------------+
    | Win10 | 768MB Recovery Partition | 2.0GB Recovery Partition |
    +----------+---------------------------+---------------------------+
    Created 21H2 --> 22H2 User fixed during 21H2
    Can be removed now

    But before you remove anything, or for that matter, make any rash moves,
    you verify the situation on both OSes.

    Admin window

    PS C:\WINDOWS\system32> reagentc /info
    Windows Recovery Environment (Windows RE) and system reset configuration
    Information:

    Windows RE status: Enabled
    Windows RE location: \\?\GLOBALROOT\device\harddisk0\partition4\Recovery\WindowsRE
    Boot Configuration Data (BCD) identifier: 497fe39f-30d1-11f1-8a51-e8ea6a0992ff
    Recovery image location:
    Recovery image index: 0
    Custom image location:
    Custom image index: 0
    Windows RE Version: 10.0.26100.8655

    REAGENTC.EXE: Operation Successful.

    In diskpart.exe (command line), you check the partitions

    DISKPART> list part

    Partition ### Type Size Offset
    ------------- ---------------- ------- -------
    Partition 1 System 100 MB 1024 KB
    Partition 2 Reserved 16 MB 101 MB <=== Cannot see this in Disk Management
    Partition 3 Primary 118 GB 117 MB
    Partition 4 Recovery 1024 MB 118 GB <=== This is my "Enabled" partition4.
    Partition 5 Primary 128 GB 119 GB
    Partition 6 Recovery 1025 MB 248 GB

    If there had been a Partition 5 which was also a Recovery Partition, chances are
    it can be removed. However, consider my Windows 10. His
    reagentc says Partition6 is a Recovery Partition. If I removed a partition somewhere to the left of Partition 5 (Windows 10) then the partition
    numbering would change, and the Windows 10 Recovery Partition would
    be instantly invalidated and need a PBR (PushButtonReset).

    Summary: While it is fun to pretend you are in charge of your machine,
    you are merely a disinterested audience member. Doing a job
    properly will take more time than it's worth. Like, if the scheme
    had been designed *properly*, would it have these sorts of glaring issues ?
    Imagine, for example instead of using this flavor of namespace

    \\?\GLOBALROOT\device\harddisk0\partition4\Recovery\WindowsRE

    I had used a GUID of the partition, such that no matter what its
    position on the disk, it would still be valid. Then, when you ask me
    whether the <unused> partition could be removed, I would not have
    to give you bomb squad answers regarding cutting the red wire or
    the blue wire. You could just do it.

    If you have *ONE* OS on the HDD, then yes, now you can whack at those
    things all you want. Use your reagentc /info to verify which one
    is the valid one. If the reagentc command gives you some "disabled"
    answer anyway, or "cannot enable", then you may end up doing a PBR
    anyway. It is when you have more complex setups, that the additional
    iffs and butts arise.

    Paul
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