• Re: TODAY: Europe Replaces Google & Microsoft With Quant, Linux Etc.

    From s|b@me@privacy.invalid to alt.comp.os.windows-11 on Sun Jun 7 21:29:16 2026
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    On Sat, 6 Jun 2026 21:45:00 +0100, John Smith wrote:

    Their intelligence agency switched to Linux years ago IIRC.

    They can do it because they only use computers for email and web
    browsing.

    Where's your source on this? Intelligence agencies do a lot more than
    e-mail and web browsing. And the rest of the government will do a lot
    more than that. Have you even read the article?

    Commercial businesses can't do the same because they need
    computers to run accounting and tax software, as well as Adobe products.
    I mentioned these three products because they are the ones I use most,
    so Windows is necessary for me.

    Maybe for you, but not for France clearly.

    Linux developers need to start seriously working on developing
    accounting and tax software, but this is not going to happen in the near future. Currently, most people using Linux systems are hobbyists, enthusiasts and students learning to write their first 'Hello World!' program.

    An entire country is switching its government to Linux, surely it's more
    than a hobby project.

    <https://truelist.co/blog/linux-statistics/>

    <quote>

    47% of professional developers use Linux-based operating systems.
    ...
    SpaceX has used Linux-supported systems to complete 65 missions so far.
    ...
    About 90% of Hollywood special effects rely on Linux.
    ...
    85% of smartphones are Linux-powered.
    ...
    As of 2017, about 90% of cloud infrastructure operates on Linux.
    ...
    96.3% of the top one million web servers are running Linux.

    </quote>

    Are still going to claim Linux is just for hobbyists, enthusiasts and
    students? They all running those servers during their free time?

    It's surprising that nobody in the Linux community is developing
    accounting and tax software. They just need to replicate the database
    schema from Windows software and then work on the UI. Linux is pretty
    good at supporting databases, and there are many free options available.
    If the project is successful, corporations will, of course, be prepared
    to pay for all the hard work involved.

    You seem to be fixated on taxes and accounting.
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    s|b
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  • From T@T@invalid.invalid to alt.comp.os.windows-11 on Mon Jun 8 03:47:27 2026
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    On 6/7/26 5:39 AM, Carlos E.R. wrote:
    In my country, ... And accounting software in Linux does exist,
    but it is peculiar to the regulations of each country.

    In the USA, Intuit's QuickBooks is the standard. The desktop
    version only runs on Windows. There was a Mac version at one
    time, but it was so horrible (bugs) that I had to tell customers
    they had to get a Windows machine. Intuit is trying to push
    users to their cloud version. The bookkeepers I work with
    do not care at all for the cloud version.

    At one time QuickBooks had competition: M$ Money, PeachTree,
    MYOB. They are all gone now. (I think MYOB is still running
    in Austrilia.)

    For my own Linux, I use GnuCash. GnuCash is in your face
    double balanced accounting. Unfortunately it does not
    support payroll or inventory management.

    I also wrote my own business accounting 33 years ago in
    Lotus Approach, which I run under Wine. My inventory
    accounting is "specific identification".

    This is what ChatGPT has to say about Linux accounting
    software that completes with QuickBooks:

    Closest Linux Replacements for QuickBooks:

    Software Best Match to QuickBooks Linux Native
    Manager Excellent Yes
    Akaunting Excellent Via browser
    GnuCash Good Yes
    ERPNext Excellent Yes (self-hosted)
    Dolibarr Very Good Yes
    Odoo Excellent Yes
    KMyMoney Fair Yes

    Recommendations by Business Type:

    Freelancer / Consultant: Manager or GnuCash

    Small retail business: ERPNext or Dolibarr

    Service company with employees: Odoo or ERPNext

    Power user who likes open source: GnuCash

    Need a QuickBooks-like experience without Windows:
    Manager or Akaunting


    The big problem here is the "I CAN'T LEARN ANYTHING NEW !!!"
    crowd and finding an accountant what will work with you
    if you are not running QuickBooks.



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  • From ....winston@winstonmvp@gmail.com to alt.comp.os.windows-11 on Mon Jun 8 12:53:33 2026
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    On 06/08/2026 6:47 AM, T wrote:
    On 6/7/26 5:39 AM, Carlos E.R. wrote:
    In my country, ... And accounting software in Linux does exist, but it
    is peculiar to the regulations of each country.

    In the USA, Intuit's QuickBooks is the standard.-a The desktop
    version only runs on Windows.

    The big problem here is the "I CAN'T LEARN ANYTHING NEW !!!"
    crowd and finding an accountant what will work with you
    if you are not running QuickBooks.




    Considering QB has over 80%-85% of the market share, the 'I can't learn anything new crowd' is minuscule(and nowhere representative of the
    'other' 15-20% market share).

    With respect to accountants - counting beans is relevant, yet
    recommending and providing training on software(and its solution[s]) are
    the primary services...thus suggesting QB continued use or adoption is consistent and aligns with software that clients are already using.

    i.e. no matter how many Linux versions exist, disappear, or future released...the picture will be the same for the foreseeable future.
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    ...w-i|#-o-#-n|#
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  • From Graham J@nobody@nowhere.co.uk to alt.comp.os.windows-11 on Tue Jun 9 07:59:09 2026
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    T wrote:
    On 6/7/26 5:39 AM, Carlos E.R. wrote:
    In my country, ... And accounting software in Linux does exist, but it
    is peculiar to the regulations of each country.

    In the USA, Intuit's QuickBooks is the standard.-a The desktop
    version only runs on Windows.-a There was a Mac version at one
    time, but it was so horrible (bugs) that I had to tell customers
    they had to get a Windows machine.-a Intuit is trying to push
    users to their cloud version.-a The bookkeepers I work with
    do not care at all for the cloud version.


    [snip]

    Here in the UK probably the most used accounting software is Sage. More horrible than QB and so far as I know equally restricted to Windows
    platforms.
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    Graham J
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  • From T@T@invalid.invalid to alt.comp.os.windows-11 on Tue Jun 9 02:26:32 2026
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    On 6/8/26 11:59 PM, Graham J wrote:
    T wrote:
    On 6/7/26 5:39 AM, Carlos E.R. wrote:
    In my country, ... And accounting software in Linux does exist, but
    it is peculiar to the regulations of each country.

    In the USA, Intuit's QuickBooks is the standard.-a The desktop
    version only runs on Windows.-a There was a Mac version at one
    time, but it was so horrible (bugs) that I had to tell customers
    they had to get a Windows machine.-a Intuit is trying to push
    users to their cloud version.-a The bookkeepers I work with
    do not care at all for the cloud version.


    [snip]

    Here in the UK probably the most used accounting software is Sage.-a More horrible than QB and so far as I know equally restricted to Windows platforms.


    I had a customer about ten years ago with a Point of Sale
    system that included Sage woven into part of it. It was
    gum and tape Frankenstein programming. Terrible stuff.
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  • From Fritz Wuehler@fritz@spamexpire-202606.rodent.frell.theremailer.net to alt.comp.os.windows-11, alt.privacy.anon-server, misc.phone.mobile.iphone on Tue Jun 16 00:49:01 2026
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    As an American. I 100% approve the move and we should all do
    the same. Thank you El :)

    https://www.qwant.com/?l=en (no tracking of data)

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OcQy1zaflbw

    Didn't one/some of the European countries move from Windows to Linux
    (or was it from MSOffice to OpenOffice/something) some years ago??

    Yes, I remember it well. But the European computer users started
    crying about having to use the Linux systems, so the company CEOs
    tucked tail and ran back to the Windows.
    I love the thought of Gates crying himself to sleep every ight for his
    own stupidity. This immature little twat rich boy and Microsoft's
    exceedingly arrogant CEO have destroyed their company. Their desire to enslave everyone to their own control was the height of hubris. I say
    death to Windows.

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  • From Chris@ithinkiam@gmail.com to alt.privacy.anon-server,alt.comp.os.windows-11 on Tue Jun 16 07:01:50 2026
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    Daniel70 <daniel47@nomail.afraid.org> wrote:
    On 6/06/2026 8:44 am, Anonymous wrote:
    As an American. I 100% approve the move and we should all do
    the same. Thank you El :)

    https://www.qwant.com/?l=en (no tracking of data)

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OcQy1zaflbw

    Didn't one/some of the European countries move from Windows to Linux (or
    was it from MSOffice to OpenOffice/something) some years ago??

    Yes. Most famously it was the city of Munich for both linux and openoffice.
    It had ping ponged over the years - MS gave them a very good deal at one
    point - and are back with OSS currently, I believe. I think German law -
    for all government documents much be stored in open standards - was also
    the driver for microsoft to rush through the so-called open OOXML format.

    There are others, but Munich is the one that shows how challenging it is to make such a significant shift.

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  • From Chris@ithinkiam@gmail.com to alt.comp.os.windows-11 on Tue Jun 16 07:14:15 2026
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    Graham J <nobody@nowhere.co.uk> wrote:
    T wrote:
    On 6/7/26 5:39 AM, Carlos E.R. wrote:
    In my country, ... And accounting software in Linux does exist, but it
    is peculiar to the regulations of each country.

    In the USA, Intuit's QuickBooks is the standard.-a The desktop
    version only runs on Windows.-a There was a Mac version at one
    time, but it was so horrible (bugs) that I had to tell customers
    they had to get a Windows machine.-a Intuit is trying to push
    users to their cloud version.-a The bookkeepers I work with
    do not care at all for the cloud version.


    [snip]

    Here in the UK probably the most used accounting software is Sage. More horrible than QB and so far as I know equally restricted to Windows platforms.

    Like everything these days, Sage has moved to cloud.

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  • From bad sector@forgetski@_INVALID.net to alt.comp.os.windows-11,alt.privacy.anon-server,misc.phone.mobile.iphone on Wed Jun 17 06:21:45 2026
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    On 6/15/26 6:49 PM, Fritz Wuehler wrote:
    As an American. I 100% approve the move and we should all do
    the same. Thank you El :)

    https://www.qwant.com/?l=en (no tracking of data)

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OcQy1zaflbw

    Didn't one/some of the European countries move from Windows to Linux
    (or was it from MSOffice to OpenOffice/something) some years ago??

    Yes, I remember it well. But the European computer users started
    crying about having to use the Linux systems, so the company CEOs
    tucked tail and ran back to the Windows.
    I love the thought of Gates crying himself to sleep every ight for his
    own stupidity. This immature little twat rich boy and Microsoft's
    exceedingly arrogant CEO have destroyed their company. Their desire to enslave everyone to their own control was the height of hubris. I say
    death to Windows.


    If we had started teaching some linux in grade school twenty years ago humanity would have produced a dozen IT-genius youngsters by now, none
    of them offsprings of the 'let's enslave humanity for ourselves' _culture_.
    --
    "Military men are just dumb, stupid animals to be used as pawns in
    foreign policy." Kissinger.

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  • From Chris@ithinkiam@gmail.com to alt.comp.os.windows-11,alt.privacy.anon-server,misc.phone.mobile.iphone on Wed Jun 17 13:39:45 2026
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    bad sector <forgetski@_INVALID.net> wrote:
    On 6/15/26 6:49 PM, Fritz Wuehler wrote:
    As an American. I 100% approve the move and we should all do
    the same. Thank you El :)

    https://www.qwant.com/?l=en (no tracking of data)

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OcQy1zaflbw

    Didn't one/some of the European countries move from Windows to Linux
    (or was it from MSOffice to OpenOffice/something) some years ago??

    Yes, I remember it well. But the European computer users started
    crying about having to use the Linux systems, so the company CEOs
    tucked tail and ran back to the Windows.
    I love the thought of Gates crying himself to sleep every ight for his
    own stupidity. This immature little twat rich boy and Microsoft's
    exceedingly arrogant CEO have destroyed their company. Their desire to
    enslave everyone to their own control was the height of hubris. I say
    death to Windows.


    If we had started teaching some linux in grade school twenty years ago humanity would have produced a dozen IT-genius youngsters by now, none
    of them offsprings of the 'let's enslave humanity for ourselves' _culture_.




    Except business would have complained to government that schools weren't preparing students for real employment.

    That's why IT classes are more about ppt presentations and document
    formatting than writing a script.

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