• Where has midiworld gone ? !

    From casagiannoni@casagiannoni@optonline.net to alt.comp.os.windows-11 on Mon Apr 27 15:51:45 2026
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    https://www.midiworld.com/files/

    can't be found.

    Anyone ?
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  • From Stan Brown@someone@example.com to alt.comp.os.windows-11 on Mon Apr 27 15:19:48 2026
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    On Mon, 27 Apr 2026 15:51:45 -0400, casagiannoni@optonline.net wrote:

    https://www.midiworld.com/files/

    can't be found.

    Anyone ?

    I'm not sure what this has to do with Windows 11, but ...

    Both the URL you gave and the root URL https://www.midiworld.com/
    return an error "SQLSTATE[HY000] [2002] No such file or directory".

    You can enter your URL in https://archive.org/web and select a recent
    backup.
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  • From Paul@nospam@needed.invalid to alt.comp.os.windows-11 on Mon Apr 27 19:57:16 2026
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    On Mon, 4/27/2026 3:51 PM, casagiannoni@optonline.net wrote:
    https://www.midiworld.com/files/

    can't be found.

    Anyone ?


    Because of the constant bombardment of LLM-AI, using up all
    the server bandwidth, the administrators of some servers
    have shut them down. The main web site may answer a ping,
    but the gigabytes of content are no longer accessible.

    The problem with the LLM-AI, is after they have scraped a site,
    they will turn around 12 hours later and do it again... without end.
    The AI are not on a mission, this is not "agentic" scraping. It is
    content scraping, and one copy of the content should be sufficient
    for any normal person. But the AI fanatics at the companies that
    are full of sucker-money, they don't care, and they leave their
    table saw running 24 hours a day, seven days a week.

    Google claimed in a recent court filing that "the Internet is dead",
    and... this is remarkably prescient of them. The owner of the
    Framework computer business claims "personal computing is dead",
    and again, there is a degree of truth to this.

    If you were wondering why everything is going to shit, just
    look around you and it isn't hard to figure out.

    The information for what is going on at the servers, is in
    discussion threads on the forums they run. The administrator
    is run ragged trying to shore up the server defenses, but at
    some point they've had enough and they pull the plug.

    Paul
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  • From rbowman@bowman@montana.com to alt.comp.os.windows-11 on Tue Apr 28 04:05:37 2026
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    On Mon, 27 Apr 2026 19:57:16 -0400, Paul wrote:

    The problem with the LLM-AI, is after they have scraped a site, they
    will turn around 12 hours later and do it again... without end.
    The AI are not on a mission, this is not "agentic" scraping. It is
    content scraping, and one copy of the content should be sufficient for
    any normal person. But the AI fanatics at the companies that are full of sucker-money, they don't care, and they leave their table saw running 24 hours a day, seven days a week.

    Back when this all started ChatGPT was clueless about anything that
    happened past 2021, iirc, because that's when they scraped the web and
    trained the model. I'm not surprised that in an attempt to remain current they've turned it into a continuous process. Training the model is what
    takes the most resources.

    I'm hoping Musk's suit clips Scam Altman's wings.
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  • From Mr. Man-wai Chang@toylet.toylet@gmail.com to alt.comp.os.windows-11 on Tue Apr 28 13:53:50 2026
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    On 4/28/2026 3:51 AM, casagiannoni@optonline.net wrote:
    https://www.midiworld.com/files/
    can't be found.
    Anyone ?


    You talking about MIDI the music instruments protcol?

    midi files - Google Search
    https://www.google.com/search?q=midi+files

    midiworld website closed - Google Search <https://www.google.com/search?q=midiworld+website+closed>
    --

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    / v \ May the Force and farces be with you! Live long and prosper!!
    /( _ )\ https://sites.google.com/site/changmw/
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  • From Paul@nospam@needed.invalid to alt.comp.os.windows-11 on Tue Apr 28 13:24:21 2026
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    On Tue, 4/28/2026 12:05 AM, rbowman wrote:
    On Mon, 27 Apr 2026 19:57:16 -0400, Paul wrote:

    The problem with the LLM-AI, is after they have scraped a site, they
    will turn around 12 hours later and do it again... without end.
    The AI are not on a mission, this is not "agentic" scraping. It is
    content scraping, and one copy of the content should be sufficient for
    any normal person. But the AI fanatics at the companies that are full of
    sucker-money, they don't care, and they leave their table saw running 24
    hours a day, seven days a week.

    Back when this all started ChatGPT was clueless about anything that
    happened past 2021, iirc, because that's when they scraped the web and trained the model. I'm not surprised that in an attempt to remain current they've turned it into a continuous process. Training the model is what takes the most resources.

    I'm hoping Musk's suit clips Scam Altman's wings.


    I'm hoping the bubble bursts, and they're all turned into stone.

    They're proposing building datacenters, on any land surface where
    the regulations are lax enough to support 9GW of natural gas turbines.
    If there is any level of government they can bribe to get their
    way, they will do it.

    Paul
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  • From casagiannoni@casagiannoni@optonline.net to alt.comp.os.windows-11 on Tue Apr 28 13:41:46 2026
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    Appreciate all the responces, although with my limited knowledge can't
    follow much.

    Sure going to miss midiworld.

    Anywhere else to get midi music ?
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  • From casagiannoni@casagiannoni@optonline.net to alt.comp.os.windows-11 on Tue Apr 28 14:07:02 2026
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    Appreciate all the responses although with my limited knowledge can't
    follow much.

    Sure going to miss midiworld.

    Anywhere else to get midi music ?
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  • From Paul@nospam@needed.invalid to alt.comp.os.windows-11 on Tue Apr 28 18:22:18 2026
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    On Tue, 4/28/2026 2:07 PM, casagiannoni@optonline.net wrote:
    Appreciate all the responses although with my limited knowledge can't
    follow much.

    Sure going to miss midiworld.

    Anywhere else to get midi music ?


    The Archive may have some of them. This is one thing that saves
    civilization from stupidity.

    https://web.archive.org/web/20251109163109/https://www.midiworld.com/files/

    Paul

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  • From Stan Brown@someone@example.com to alt.comp.os.windows-11 on Tue Apr 28 18:57:41 2026
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    On Tue, 28 Apr 2026 13:41:46 -0400, casagiannoni@optonline.net wrote:
    Appreciate all the responces, although with my limited knowledge can't
    follow much.

    Sure going to miss midiworld.

    Anywhere else to get midi music ?


    It looks like you haven't paid any attention to the answer I posted
    yesterday.
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    those who don't have it." --George Bernard Shaw
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  • From Stan Brown@someone@example.com to alt.comp.os.windows-11 on Tue Apr 28 18:59:22 2026
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    On Tue, 28 Apr 2026 18:22:18 -0400, Paul wrote:
    On Tue, 4/28/2026 2:07 PM, casagiannoni@optonline.net wrote:
    [quoted text muted]
    Sure going to miss midiworld.

    Anywhere else to get midi music ?


    The Archive may have some of them. This is one thing that saves
    civilization from stupidity.

    https://web.archive.org/web/20251109163109/https://www.midiworld.com/files/


    I posted as much yesterday, but the OP apparently ignored it. It
    really is disappointing when a poster with a legitimate question
    doesn't pay any attention to the answers that people took the trouble
    to send.
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    those who don't have it." --George Bernard Shaw
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  • From Paul@nospam@needed.invalid to alt.comp.os.windows-11 on Wed Apr 29 07:56:30 2026
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    On Tue, 4/28/2026 9:59 PM, Stan Brown wrote:
    On Tue, 28 Apr 2026 18:22:18 -0400, Paul wrote:
    On Tue, 4/28/2026 2:07 PM, casagiannoni@optonline.net wrote:
    [quoted text muted]
    Sure going to miss midiworld.

    Anywhere else to get midi music ?


    The Archive may have some of them. This is one thing that saves
    civilization from stupidity.

    https://web.archive.org/web/20251109163109/https://www.midiworld.com/files/


    I posted as much yesterday, but the OP apparently ignored it. It
    really is disappointing when a poster with a legitimate question
    doesn't pay any attention to the answers that people took the trouble
    to send.


    Hey, I got a nice "Also_Sprach_Zarathustra" .mid while I was there.

    And because that particular .mid is all over the place, when
    you Google on that string, you also get a bunch of MIDI websites.

    Also_Sprach_Zarathustra .mid

    Even if the MIDI content is likely a duplicate of MIDIworld.

    Paul
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  • From Mr. Man-wai Chang@toylet.toylet@gmail.com to alt.comp.os.windows-11 on Wed Apr 29 21:03:43 2026
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    On 4/29/2026 2:07 AM, casagiannoni@optonline.net wrote:
    Appreciate all the responses although with my limited knowledge can't
    follow much.

    Sure going to miss midiworld.

    Anywhere else to get midi music ?


    Did that website go down because of copyright??? Something like 3D
    printer files.... :)
    --

    @~@ Simplicity is Beauty! Remain silent! Drink, Blink, Stretch!
    / v \ May the Force and farces be with you! Live long and prosper!!
    /( _ )\ https://sites.google.com/site/changmw/
    ^ ^ https://github.com/changmw/changmw
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  • From casagiannoni@casagiannoni@optonline.net to alt.comp.os.windows-11 on Wed Apr 29 14:28:44 2026
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    On Tue, 28 Apr 2026 18:22:18 -0400, Paul <nospam@needed.invalid>
    wrote:

    On Tue, 4/28/2026 2:07 PM, casagiannoni@optonline.net wrote:
    Appreciate all the responses although with my limited knowledge can't
    follow much.

    Sure going to miss midiworld.

    Anywhere else to get midi music ?


    The Archive may have some of them. This is one thing that saves
    civilization from stupidity.

    https://web.archive.org/web/20251109163109/https://www.midiworld.com/files/

    Paul

    Thanks Paul.

    May seem dumb but I'm not familiar with the archive.

    What's 20251109163109 etc. ?

    Any simple / easy / short explanation ?
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  • From Andy Burns@usenet@andyburns.uk to alt.comp.os.windows-11 on Wed Apr 29 19:44:00 2026
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    casagiannoni wrote:

    May seem dumb but I'm not familiar with the archive.
    What's 20251109163109 etc. ?
    YYYYMMDDHHMMSS

    but you don't have to enter it yourself, there's a picker.

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  • From Paul@nospam@needed.invalid to alt.comp.os.windows-11 on Wed Apr 29 15:21:24 2026
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    On Wed, 4/29/2026 2:44 PM, Andy Burns wrote:
    casagiannoni wrote:

    May seem dumb but I'm not familiar with the archive.
    What's 20251109163109 etc. ?
    -a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a YYYYMMDDHHMMSS

    but you don't have to enter it yourself, there's a picker.


    https://web.archive.org/web/20251109163109/https://www.midiworld.com/files/

    Change it like this, and you will get to see the picker.

    https://web.archive.org/web/*/https://www.midiworld.com/files/

    The numeric field is a specific date code, of the web site capture.

    Replacing the date field with a wildcard "*" causes all the captures
    done, to be listed for you in the picker. Once you have selected
    a particular date and hour, the field changes back to the numeric identifier.

    *******

    Many captures of the site were done. I selected a date code
    which I suspected would be safe for consumption.

    Using the picker, you can select any date code. The dots are
    colored. You might see blue and green dots. One color is a failed
    capture. The other color is a success capture. The dots (a dot
    is a day-selection), the menu can show multiple "hours"
    of capture, and you can select a specific hour out of the list
    of hours.

    Captures can be quite infrequent, like once every two years.
    Or, when a company makes a deal with archive.org, there can
    be a recording of the site every day. Since the machine uses
    de-duplication, if the checksum of the file has not changed
    in 20 years, there would be only one real copy of the file
    on archive.org , but it would be available/listed via the picker,
    on just about any colored dot you selected. That's how
    archive.org does not run out of space. It checks whether the
    files are modified, and tries to avoid making duplicates.
    The "dots" then, are practically speaking, Incremental Backups.

    I think they had around 5500 disk drives, some years ago, but
    the site is much larger than that now.

    Paul
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  • From casagiannoni@casagiannoni@optonline.net to alt.comp.os.windows-11 on Fri May 1 14:42:02 2026
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    Paul,

    ( dumb of me not to figure out the time designation )


    but you don't have to enter it yourself, there's a picker.


    https://web.archive.org/web/20251109163109/https://www.midiworld.com/files/

    Change it like this, and you will get to see the picker.

    https://web.archive.org/web/*/https://www.midiworld.com/files/

    ( snip)

    Don"t know what a picker is

    Your references don't seem to go anywhere I can follow

    Can't seem to get the picker to work

    ( big snip )

    Thanks again for help and any further easy coments welcome

    Steve
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  • From Andy Burns@usenet@andyburns.uk to alt.comp.os.windows-11 on Fri May 1 19:56:18 2026
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    casagiannoni wrote:

    Paul wrote:

    Change it like this, and you will get to see the picker.
    https://web.archive.org/web/*/https://www.midiworld.com/files/

    Don"t know what a picker is
    You can pick the year, date and time graphically, to see a snapshot at
    that time.

    Assuming the midi collection grew over time (with few or no files ever removed) just use the last snapshot before it got killed ...

    <https://web.archive.org/web/20260306223313/https://www.midiworld.com/files/>


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  • From Paul@nospam@needed.invalid to alt.comp.os.windows-11 on Fri May 1 15:44:15 2026
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    On Fri, 5/1/2026 2:56 PM, Andy Burns wrote:
    casagiannoni wrote:

    Paul wrote:

    Change it like this, and you will get to see the picker.
    -a-a https://web.archive.org/web/*/https://www.midiworld.com/files/

    Don"t know what a picker is
    You can pick the year, date and time graphically, to see a snapshot at that time.

    Assuming the midi collection grew over time (with few or no files ever removed) just use the last snapshot before it got killed ...

    <https://web.archive.org/web/20260306223313/https://www.midiworld.com/files/>



    We can start with this, and take a picture of it.

    https://web.archive.org/web/*/https://www.midiworld.com/files/

    This is a picture of my browser.

    [Picture] archive-org-date-picker-demo.png

    https://postimg.cc/Mft8yzT3

    After you have picked the hour, it looks like this URL.
    The date field has the information, as to which date
    the info was collected on.

    https://web.archive.org/web/20260306223313/https://www.midiworld.com/files/

    Paul

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  • From casagiannoni@casagiannoni@optonline.net to alt.comp.os.windows-11 on Fri May 1 18:54:51 2026
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    Paul,

    We can start with this, and take a picture of it.

    https://web.archive.org/web/*/https://www.midiworld.com/files/


    This only yields something called WayBack Machine showing some year by
    year graphics like line.

    Don't know what to do next.

    Nothing seems to work.

    Further guidance etc. ?

    Thanks,
    Steve
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  • From Brian Gregory@void-invalid-dead-dontuse@email.invalid to alt.comp.os.windows-11 on Sat May 2 00:40:03 2026
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    On 01/05/2026 23:54, casagiannoni@optonline.net wrote:
    Paul,

    We can start with this, and take a picture of it.

    https://web.archive.org/web/*/https://www.midiworld.com/files/


    This only yields something called WayBack Machine showing some year by
    year graphics like line.

    Don't know what to do next.

    Nothing seems to work.

    Further guidance etc. ?

    Thanks,
    Steve

    FFS just click on one of the original links suggested.
    I doesn't matter what date you use, it's been abandons and untouched
    since about 2007 so any date will do.

    It was fine at the beginning of 2025 so try:

    https://web.archive.org/web/20250101000000/https://www.midiworld.com/
    --
    Brian Gregory (in England).
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  • From Brian Gregory@void-invalid-dead-dontuse@email.invalid to alt.comp.os.windows-11 on Sat May 2 00:41:46 2026
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    On 29/04/2026 14:03, Mr. Man-wai Chang wrote:
    On 4/29/2026 2:07 AM, casagiannoni@optonline.net wrote:
    Appreciate all the responses although with my limited knowledge can't
    follow much.

    Sure going to miss midiworld.

    Anywhere else to get midi music ?


    Did that website go down because of copyright??? Something like 3D
    printer files.... :)


    Most likely it just fell apart.
    It's been abandoned for nearly 20 years.
    --
    Brian Gregory (in England).
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  • From Andy Burns@usenet@andyburns.uk to alt.comp.os.windows-11 on Sat May 2 08:28:47 2026
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    casagiannoni wrote:

    https://web.archive.org/web/*/https://www.midiworld.com/files/

    This only yields something called WayBack Machine showing some year by
    year graphics like line.

    Don't know what to do next.

    Nothing seems to work.

    Further guidance etc. ?
    I'm sorry, if you can't work our how to use wayback's archive of
    midiworld, how did you ever manage to use midiworld itself?
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  • From Paul@nospam@needed.invalid to alt.comp.os.windows-11 on Sat May 2 04:02:33 2026
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    On Fri, 5/1/2026 6:54 PM, casagiannoni@optonline.net wrote:
    Paul,

    We can start with this, and take a picture of it.

    https://web.archive.org/web/*/https://www.midiworld.com/files/


    This only yields something called WayBack Machine showing some year by
    year graphics like line.

    Don't know what to do next.

    Nothing seems to work.

    Further guidance etc. ?

    Thanks,
    Steve


    Try some Chicago. Their compositions are relatively easy to convert to MID. (Some of the other content on Midiworld is just awful.)

    https://web.archive.org/web/20251115095040/https://www.midiworld.com/files/170/

    Does Anybody Really Know [what time it is] -- Download Link

    https://web.archive.org/web/20251115095040/https://www.midiworld.com/download/304

    Name: Chicago_-_Does_Anybody_Really_Know.mid
    Size: 34327 bytes (33 KiB)

    You need a modern browser for everything to work OK.
    We can't tell what you can see or cannot see on your screen.

    I thought maybe the Roland GS Soundbank would sound better, but
    there isn't that much difference between listening to these on Win7
    versus Win11.

    Paul


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  • From JJ@jj4public@gmail.com to alt.comp.os.windows-11 on Sat May 2 15:09:29 2026
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    On Sat, 2 May 2026 08:28:47 +0100, Andy Burns wrote:
    casagiannoni wrote:

    https://web.archive.org/web/*/https://www.midiworld.com/files/

    This only yields something called WayBack Machine showing some year by
    year graphics like line.

    Don't know what to do next.

    Nothing seems to work.

    Further guidance etc. ?
    I'm sorry, if you can't work our how to use wayback's archive of
    midiworld, how did you ever manage to use midiworld itself?

    Dude, Wayback Machine is much less accesibility friendly than midiworld and most non JS driven HTML-only sites.
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  • From casagiannoni@casagiannoni@optonline.net to alt.comp.os.windows-11 on Sun May 3 15:13:03 2026
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    ( snip )

    Try some Chicago. Their compositions are relatively easy to convert to MID. >(Some of the other content on Midiworld is just awful.)

    https://web.archive.org/web/20251115095040/https://www.midiworld.com/files/170/

    Does Anybody Really Know [what time it is] -- Download Link

    https://web.archive.org/web/20251115095040/https://www.midiworld.com/download/304

    Name: Chicago_-_Does_Anybody_Really_Know.mid
    Size: 34327 bytes (33 KiB)

    You need a modern browser for everything to work OK.
    We can't tell what you can see or cannot see on your screen.

    I thought maybe the Roland GS Soundbank would sound better, but
    there isn't that much difference between listening to these on Win7
    versus Win11.

    Paul

    Thanks for all the info, although with my very limited knowlerge I may
    not be able to do justice to it ...

    Really appreciate your effort.

    Steve
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  • From Kerr-Mudd, John@admin@127.0.0.1 to alt.comp.os.windows-11 on Sun May 3 22:12:51 2026
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    On Sat, 2 May 2026 04:02:33 -0400
    Paul <nospam@needed.invalid> wrote:

    On Fri, 5/1/2026 6:54 PM, casagiannoni@optonline.net wrote:
    Paul,

    We can start with this, and take a picture of it.

    https://web.archive.org/web/*/https://www.midiworld.com/files/


    This only yields something called WayBack Machine showing some year by
    year graphics like line.

    Don't know what to do next.

    Nothing seems to work.

    Further guidance etc. ?

    Thanks,
    Steve


    Try some Chicago. Their compositions are relatively easy to convert to MID. (Some of the other content on Midiworld is just awful.)

    https://web.archive.org/web/20251115095040/https://www.midiworld.com/files/170/

    Does Anybody Really Know [what time it is] -- Download Link

    https://web.archive.org/web/20251115095040/https://www.midiworld.com/download/304

    Name: Chicago_-_Does_Anybody_Really_Know.mid
    Size: 34327 bytes (33 KiB)

    You need a modern browser for everything to work OK.
    We can't tell what you can see or cannot see on your screen.


    Feh, mine's olde but Let's Go!

    https://web.archive.org/web/20240916085319/https://www.midiworld.com/download/2116

    I thought maybe the Roland GS Soundbank would sound better, but
    there isn't that much difference between listening to these on Win7
    versus Win11.

    Paul


    --
    Bah, and indeed Humbug.
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