• tip: how to set up a local account at initial installation

    From T@T@invalid.invalid to alt.comp.os.windows-11 on Fri Apr 17 05:23:32 2026
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    Hi All,

    I have seen s few remarks about being forced to set up a
    spyware account with your email at the initial Windows
    11 installation.

    Here is how to get around it. Print this out and have
    it at the ready:

    -T



    Windows 11 M$ Account Bypass: 2025-04-03

    Reference:
    https://memstechtips.com/best-windows-11-microsoft-account-bypass/


    [1] at the "Let's add your Microsoft account" screen,
    press <shift><f10> (or <shift><Fn><f10> on laptops) to open a
    command shell

    [2] Enter the following command:
    start ms-cxh:localonly

    [3] a new window will open allowing you to create a local user account directly
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  • From Paul@nospam@needed.invalid to alt.comp.os.windows-11 on Fri Apr 17 09:06:40 2026
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    On Fri, 4/17/2026 8:23 AM, T wrote:
    Hi All,

    I have seen s few remarks about being forced to set up a
    spyware account with your email at the initial Windows
    11 installation.

    Here is how to get around it.-a Print this out and have
    it at the ready:

    -T



    Windows 11 M$ Account Bypass: 2025-04-03

    Reference:
    -a-a https://memstechtips.com/best-windows-11-microsoft-account-bypass/


    [1] at the "Let's add your Microsoft account" screen,
    -a-a-a press <shift><f10> (or <shift><Fn><f10> on laptops) to open a command shell

    [2] Enter the following command:
    -a-a-a start ms-cxh:localonly

    [3] a new window will open allowing you to create a local user account directly



    The techniques will gradually age out. It won't be any different for Rufus.
    If a mechanism is gone, then a tick box cannot be offered.

    https://www.reddit.com/r/GeekSquad/comments/1o0idi3/microsoft_disabling_use_of_start_mscxhlocalonly/

    On the other hand, we have articles like this, equally jaw dropping and unbelievable.

    https://www.zdnet.com/article/windows-11-local-account-microsoft-account/

    What a time to be alive. So many grifters. Even my HVAC company tried to grift me a week ago.

    Paul
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  • From Andy Burns@usenet@andyburns.uk to alt.comp.os.windows-11 on Fri Apr 17 15:28:44 2026
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    T wrote:

    Here is how to get around it.

    ... this week.

    Maybe 26H2 will break that, whereas the ability to create a temporary
    MSA, then trash it afterwards leaving local accounts behind will remain
    the same ...



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  • From AJL@noemail@none.com to alt.comp.os.windows-11 on Fri Apr 17 16:27:24 2026
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    On 4/17/26 5:23 AM, T wrote:
    Hi All,

    I have seen s few remarks about being forced to set up a
    spyware account with your email at the initial Windows
    11 installation.

    My latest Windows toy (a CHUWI 2-in-1 Touchscreen Laptop 10.51", 16GB RAM
    512GB SSD, Intel N150, Windows 11, Portable Mini Laptop, 2K FHD IPS
    Display, Backlit Keyboard, WiFi 6, BT 5.2, Camera, Ty-C-|--i) surprised me by
    initially setting me up with with a local account with not even a choice
    for a MSA. And boy did MS complain later. Then in one of their later
    updates they slipped it in. Sneaky. I didn't notice until they were several
    pages in and wanted my personal info. No biggie. I just used my fake name
    and email (initials AJL - don't tell anyone) as before. MS said they were
    happy to have me back. And to be honest I did kinda miss the store...
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  • From T@T@invalid.invalid to alt.comp.os.windows-11 on Sat Apr 18 18:52:28 2026
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    On 4/17/26 06:06, Paul wrote:
    The techniques will gradually age out. It won't be any different for Rufus. If a mechanism is gone, then a tick box cannot be offered.

    https://www.reddit.com/r/GeekSquad/comments/1o0idi3/ microsoft_disabling_use_of_start_mscxhlocalonly/

    M$ really, really, really wants the user to be the "product" not the "customer"

    I would presume that if M$ wants anyone without an Internet
    connection to be able top use the trash, they will have to
    have some mechanism available.


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  • From T@T@invalid.invalid to alt.comp.os.windows-11 on Sat Apr 18 18:54:14 2026
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    On 4/17/26 07:28, Andy Burns wrote:
    T wrote:

    Here is how to get around it.

    ... this week.

    Maybe 26H2 will break that, whereas the ability to create a temporary
    MSA, then trash it afterwards leaving local accounts behind will remain
    the same ...


    On no fooling! Do yo remember when it was just as easy as
    putting in aaa.bbb.com for the eMail address?

    I can't wait to see what M$ pulls on the customer
    with Windows 12 !!!
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  • From T@T@invalid.invalid to alt.comp.os.windows-11 on Sat Apr 18 18:55:33 2026
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    On 4/17/26 09:27, AJL wrote:
    On 4/17/26 5:23 AM, T wrote:
    Hi All,

    I have seen s few remarks about being forced to set up a
    spyware account with your email at the initial Windows
    11 installation.

    My latest Windows toy (a CHUWI 2-in-1 Touchscreen Laptop 10.51", 16GB RAM 512GB SSD, Intel N150, Windows 11, Portable Mini Laptop, 2K FHD IPS
    Display, Backlit Keyboard, WiFi 6, BT 5.2, Camera, Ty-C-|--i) surprised me by initially setting me up with with a local account with not even a choice
    for a MSA. And boy did MS complain later. Then in one of their later
    updates they slipped it in. Sneaky. I didn't notice until they were several pages in and wanted my personal info. No biggie. I just used my fake name
    and email (initials AJL - don't tell anyone) as before. MS said they were happy to have me back. And to be honest I did kinda miss the store...


    I've seen that on a couple of Lenovo laptops. I was proud
    of Lenovo. Glad to see it migrating to other places
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  • From T@T@invalid.invalid to alt.comp.os.windows-11 on Sat Apr 18 18:58:27 2026
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    On 4/17/26 06:06, Paul wrote:
    On the other hand, we have articles like this, equally jaw dropping and unbelievable.

    https://www.zdnet.com/article/windows-11-local-account-microsoft-account/


    "Now, a Microsoft VP has hinted that he's working on a
    way around this annoyance."

    I second your "unbelievable" remark. M$ likes to lie
    their asses off. "Vista the most reliable and fastest
    Windows yet!"
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  • From wasbit@wasbit@REMOVEhotmail.com to alt.comp.os.windows-11 on Sun Apr 19 09:10:25 2026
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    On 19/04/2026 02:58, T wrote:
    On 4/17/26 06:06, Paul wrote:
    On the other hand, we have articles like this, equally jaw dropping
    and unbelievable.


    https://www.zdnet.com/article/windows-11-local-account-microsoft-account/


    -a-a-a-a "Now, a Microsoft VP has hinted that he's working on a
    -a-a-a-a way around this annoyance."

    I second your "unbelievable" remark.-a M$ likes to lie
    their asses off.-a "Vista the most reliable and fastest
    Windows yet!"

    FYI: Windows Vista ran fine if you gave it 2GB RAM.
    Microsoft downgraded the minimum requirements to 1GB when manufacturers whinged about their profit margins.
    --
    Regards
    wasbit
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  • From T@T@invalid.invalid to alt.comp.os.windows-11 on Sun Apr 19 03:57:21 2026
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    On 4/19/26 01:10, wasbit wrote:
    FYI: Windows Vista ran fine if you gave it 2GB RAM.

    It ran like an unstable dog on my customers no
    matter how much ram it had.

    This one minute video will explain it to you:
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zxpuNCJim3M


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  • From Frank Slootweg@this@ddress.is.invalid to alt.comp.os.windows-11 on Sun Apr 19 14:13:05 2026
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    wasbit <wasbit@removehotmail.com> wrote:
    On 19/04/2026 02:58, T wrote:
    On 4/17/26 06:06, Paul wrote:
    On the other hand, we have articles like this, equally jaw dropping
    and unbelievable.

    https://www.zdnet.com/article/windows-11-local-account-microsoft-account/

    aaaa "Now, a Microsoft VP has hinted that he's working on a
    aaaa way around this annoyance."

    I second your "unbelievable" remark.a M$ likes to lie
    their asses off.a "Vista the most reliable and fastest
    Windows yet!"

    FYI: Windows Vista ran fine if you gave it 2GB RAM.
    Microsoft downgraded the minimum requirements to 1GB when manufacturers whinged about their profit margins.

    Indeed. Vista was perfectly fine. Users not familiar with the new
    security model of course needed some time to adjust, but users of Real Operating Systems (TM) had very little problems.

    I just checked my notes and my machine indeed had 2GB RAM.
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  • From Paul@nospam@needed.invalid to alt.comp.os.windows-11 on Sun Apr 19 10:52:09 2026
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    On Sun, 4/19/2026 6:57 AM, T wrote:
    On 4/19/26 01:10, wasbit wrote:
    FYI: Windows Vista ran fine if you gave it 2GB RAM.

    It ran like an unstable dog on my customers no
    matter how much ram it had.

    This one minute video will explain it to you:
    -a-a-a https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zxpuNCJim3M



    Video isn't available here, perhaps this is similar ?

    # "Vista == We're All Going To Die!!"

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-IfnjBHtjHc

    The few times I've run Vista in a VM, it didn't seem
    noteworthy one way or another. Didn't crash on me,
    while I was trying to do Windows Update to an
    up-to-date result.

    The best way to test, would be on a machine with ECC,
    or at least, use one of the more modern RAM types
    (DDR3,DDR4,DDR5) so that RAM issues aren't the root cause.

    Also, my experience is, any time you're having a stability
    problem on Windows, run Linux on the same machine and compare.

    Paul
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  • From Paul@nospam@needed.invalid to alt.comp.os.windows-11 on Sun Apr 19 11:19:48 2026
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    On Sun, 4/19/2026 10:13 AM, Frank Slootweg wrote:
    wasbit <wasbit@removehotmail.com> wrote:
    On 19/04/2026 02:58, T wrote:
    On 4/17/26 06:06, Paul wrote:
    On the other hand, we have articles like this, equally jaw dropping
    and unbelievable.

    https://www.zdnet.com/article/windows-11-local-account-microsoft-account/ >>>
    -a-a-a-a "Now, a Microsoft VP has hinted that he's working on a
    -a-a-a-a way around this annoyance."

    I second your "unbelievable" remark.-a M$ likes to lie
    their asses off.-a "Vista the most reliable and fastest
    Windows yet!"

    FYI: Windows Vista ran fine if you gave it 2GB RAM.
    Microsoft downgraded the minimum requirements to 1GB when manufacturers
    whinged about their profit margins.

    Indeed. Vista was perfectly fine. Users not familiar with the new
    security model of course needed some time to adjust, but users of Real Operating Systems (TM) had very little problems.

    I just checked my notes and my machine indeed had 2GB RAM.


    There are also a couple settings you can use to cause
    the OS to not use all of the RAM. If you needed to reduce a 2GB machine
    to running off 1GB, you can do that without taking the side off.

    Innovations since WinXP are:

    1) Allowing the paged and unpaged pools to use close to the entire RAM
    on the machine. WinXP only allowed a percentage to be used, and
    my assumption is that garbage collection was what kept the machine
    running under those conditions. Your paged and unpaged pools were
    quite frequently full, so "something" must be happening behind
    the scenes to maintain the dynamic equilibrium of the pools.

    2) Invention of the Memory Compressor, as an adjunct to having
    a pagefile. To view the Memory Compressor on your current OS,
    you can use Process Explorer from Sysinternals, as Task Manager
    refuses to display a process where certain metadata is missing.

    When the system RAM is "kernel-sized", the Memory Compressor stays
    railed on one core. When the system RAM is equal to the "recommended system minimum RAM", the Memory Compressor is normally stopped, as long as you
    are not launching new things. So one of the ways of "determining the minimum", is watching what the Memory Compressor is doing, or watching the fault rate
    in Process Explorer.

    Paul
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  • From T@T@invalid.invalid to alt.comp.os.windows-11 on Sun Apr 19 23:30:44 2026
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    On 4/19/26 07:52, Paul wrote:
    Also, my experience is, any time you're having a stability
    problem on Windows, run Linux on the same machine and compare.

    I do the same thing. Lest me test if the issue is
    hardware or software. 90% of the time it is
    software, but not always.

    I would not have a job if not for M$'s atrocious quality.
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  • From Nick@nick@koohii.invalid to alt.comp.os.windows-11 on Mon Apr 20 16:24:02 2026
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    On 20.04.2026 08:30, T wrote:
    On 4/19/26 07:52, Paul wrote:
    Also, my experience is, any time you're having a stability
    problem on Windows, run Linux on the same machine and compare.

    I do the same thing.-a Lest me test if the issue is
    hardware or software.-a 90% of the time it is
    software, but not always.

    I would not have a job if not for M$'s atrocious quality.

    I guess it was all on a case by case basis. It ran better than XP for me personally, with 1GB of ram. I remember having an issue on XP which
    would detect the available amount of memory wrong (It would say I had
    more than I did), and that caused a BSOD quite often. I tried updating
    the BIOS, changing the RAM sticks, the works.

    On the other hand, Vista detected it correctly right off the bat, and
    was almost rock solid for me. It even made me actually buy a Windows
    license, the first legal Windows I had. Used it until I upgraded that
    machine and switched to Win 7 at some point.

    I still miss Vista tbh.
    --
    -Nick

    Take care, it's a desert out there
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  • From T@T@invalid.invalid to alt.comp.os.windows-11 on Tue Apr 21 04:37:57 2026
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    On 4/20/26 07:24, Nick wrote:
    On 20.04.2026 08:30, T wrote:
    On 4/19/26 07:52, Paul wrote:
    Also, my experience is, any time you're having a stability
    problem on Windows, run Linux on the same machine and compare.

    I do the same thing.-a Lest me test if the issue is
    hardware or software.-a 90% of the time it is
    software, but not always.

    I would not have a job if not for M$'s atrocious quality.

    I guess it was all on a case by case basis. It ran better than XP for me personally, with 1GB of ram. I remember having an issue on XP which
    would detect the available amount of memory wrong (It would say I had
    more than I did), and that caused a BSOD quite often. I tried updating
    the BIOS, changing the RAM sticks, the works.

    On the other hand, Vista detected it correctly right off the bat, and
    was almost rock solid for me. It even made me actually buy a Windows license, the first legal Windows I had. Used it until I upgraded that machine and switched to Win 7 at some point.

    I still miss Vista tbh.


    Keep in mind, I only get called when things go wrong.

    I had numerous customers that bought new machines and
    begs me to back install XP from Vista.

    XP stunk when it first came out, but after service
    pack 3 was actually pretty stable, well, for an M$
    product. 7 was pretty good out the box. Same
    with Windows 8 after all the service packs and 8.1.
    We all missed Windows Nein. 10 has always been
    a bit flaky. 11 added to the flakiness.

    Thing about M$ is that they don't improve on what they
    have, they like to start over a lot. I can walk up to
    Fedora an not be able to tell which version with out
    asking the operating system. They improve on what
    they have. Same with weird old Mac OS (not sure about
    the improvement part).

    And very few folks can migrate to Linux due to the
    Linux Catch 22 problem.

    Can't wait for Windows 12!!!! :'(


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