Just tell the Truth.
Will someone, anyone, tell me the Truth? For God's sake. Just spell out
the whole goddamned absolute truth! Or, just keep on lying. Lying to yourself! YMMV.
At Fri, 14 Aug 2026 20:00:49 -0700, Dude <punditster@gmail.com> wrote:
Just tell the Truth.
Will someone, anyone, tell me the Truth? For God's sake. Just spell out
the whole goddamned absolute truth! Or, just keep on lying. Lying to
yourself! YMMV.
"In the beginning was the Word..."[*]
"Logos", thought by some pre-Socratic philosophers to mean
"the divine order" -- that is to say, the Laws of Nature.[***]
[*] Literally, "Logos"[**]
[**] An idea that had been around longer that 500 years before
the author of the fourth gospel tried to claim Jesus was its
personification.
[***] A close reading of _A Brief History of Time_ will find
Dr. Hawking appears to agree.
...Um, wait -- were you talking about "truth" or "TRVTH"?
On Sat, 15 Aug 2026 06:54:10 +0000, Creon <creon@creon.earth> wrote:
At Fri, 14 Aug 2026 20:00:49 -0700, Dude <punditster@gmail.com> wrote:
Just tell the Truth.
Will someone, anyone, tell me the Truth? For God's sake. Just spell out
the whole goddamned absolute truth! Or, just keep on lying. Lying to
yourself! YMMV.
"In the beginning was the Word..."[*]
"Logos", thought by some pre-Socratic philosophers to mean
"the divine order" -- that is to say, the Laws of Nature.[***]
[*] Literally, "Logos"[**]
[**] An idea that had been around longer that 500 years before
the author of the fourth gospel tried to claim Jesus was its
personification.
[***] A close reading of _A Brief History of Time_ will find
Dr. Hawking appears to agree.
...Um, wait -- were you talking about "truth" or "TRVTH"?
Only a LIAR asks what is TRVTH? - Pilate.
On Sat, 15 Aug 2026 06:54:10 +0000, Creon <creon@creon.earth> wrote:
At Fri, 14 Aug 2026 20:00:49 -0700, Dude <punditster@gmail.com> wrote:
Just tell the Truth.
Will someone, anyone, tell me the Truth? For God's sake. Just spell out >> the whole goddamned absolute truth! Or, just keep on lying. Lying to
yourself! YMMV.
"In the beginning was the Word..."[*]
"Logos", thought by some pre-Socratic philosophers to mean
"the divine order" -- that is to say, the Laws of Nature.[***]
[*] Literally, "Logos"[**]
[**] An idea that had been around longer that 500 years before
the author of the fourth gospel tried to claim Jesus was its >personification.
[***] A close reading of _A Brief History of Time_ will find
Dr. Hawking appears to agree.
...Um, wait -- were you talking about "truth" or "TRVTH"?
Only a LIAR asks what is TRVTH? - Pilate.
On 8/15/2026 6:57 AM, Noah Sombrero wrote:
On Sat, 15 Aug 2026 06:54:10 +0000, Creon <creon@creon.earth> wrote:
At Fri, 14 Aug 2026 20:00:49 -0700, Dude <punditster@gmail.com>
wrote:
Just tell the Truth.
Will someone, anyone, tell me the Truth? For God's sake. Just
spell out the whole goddamned absolute truth! Or, just keep on
lying. Lying to yourself! YMMV.
"In the beginning was the Word..."[*]
"Logos", thought by some pre-Socratic philosophers to mean
"the divine order" -- that is to say, the Laws of Nature.[***]
[*] Literally, "Logos"[**]
[**] An idea that had been around longer that 500 years before
the author of the fourth gospel tried to claim Jesus was its
personification.
[***] A close reading of _A Brief History of Time_ will find
Dr. Hawking appears to agree.
...Um, wait -- were you talking about "truth" or "TRVTH"?
Only a LIAR asks what is TRVTH? - Pilate.
You are soaking in it!
"Here is a metaphorical version of how I feel about lying free speech.
See, god decided that babylon had gotten out of control and it looked
to him like humans might become like gods. So, he scrambled their
speech to different languages to make them unable to talk with each
other.
It could be that something sorta like that happened in ages past,
except that it could have been simply a matter of dispersal of human
groups whose languages then tended to drift apart. Maybe sorta.
So now here we are in the post truth era where many humans don't
really care about truth, the point of communication is to discredit
some other group, and if it isn't true, lies will do that well enough.
So it is that humans could have become god like in their powers over
their own biology and that of other creatures. And once again we are scattering, becoming unable to know what is true and what not. One
could again say, that it was our own doing. The effect came out of
our own natural tendencies.
Not that I think there is any point in trying to do anything about you
and your pals mr crook.
Laguages are scattered, and truth is no more, irrevocably."
- Noah Sombrero
At Sat, 15 Aug 2026 09:57:22 -0400, Noah Sombrero <fedora@fea.st> wrote:
On Sat, 15 Aug 2026 06:54:10 +0000, Creon <creon@creon.earth> wrote:
At Fri, 14 Aug 2026 20:00:49 -0700, Dude <punditster@gmail.com> wrote:
Just tell the Truth.
Will someone, anyone, tell me the Truth? For God's sake. Just spell out >> the whole goddamned absolute truth! Or, just keep on lying. Lying to
yourself! YMMV.
"In the beginning was the Word..."[*]
"Logos", thought by some pre-Socratic philosophers to mean
"the divine order" -- that is to say, the Laws of Nature.[***]
[*] Literally, "Logos"[**]
[**] An idea that had been around longer that 500 years before
the author of the fourth gospel tried to claim Jesus was its >personification.
[***] A close reading of _A Brief History of Time_ will find
Dr. Hawking appears to agree.
...Um, wait -- were you talking about "truth" or "TRVTH"?
Only a LIAR asks what is TRVTH? - Pilate.
I constructed that whole post, and _that's_ what you
came out with on the other end? smdh.
Some of us (TINU), for whom the "truth" has become synonymous with
"TRVTH", have learned to *survive* by pulling the wool over our
_own_ eyes.
All we can do is try to leverage what time we have left, to try
to make the world a better place.
(And here it is, almost 2 in the morning, and I'm taking the
time to explain that. For more fun, I joust windmills.)
"Doc Hammerslack" <dochammerslack@creon.earth> posted:
At Sat, 15 Aug 2026 09:57:22 -0400, Noah Sombrero <fedora@fea.st>
wrote:
On Sat, 15 Aug 2026 06:54:10 +0000, Creon <creon@creon.earth>
wrote:
At Fri, 14 Aug 2026 20:00:49 -0700, Dude <punditster@gmail.com>
wrote:
Just tell the Truth.
Will someone, anyone, tell me the Truth? For God's sake. Just
spell out the whole goddamned absolute truth! Or, just keep on
lying. Lying to yourself! YMMV.
"In the beginning was the Word..."[*]
"Logos", thought by some pre-Socratic philosophers to mean
"the divine order" -- that is to say, the Laws of Nature.[***]
[*] Literally, "Logos"[**]
[**] An idea that had been around longer that 500 years before
the author of the fourth gospel tried to claim Jesus was its >personification.
[***] A close reading of _A Brief History of Time_ will find
Dr. Hawking appears to agree.
...Um, wait -- were you talking about "truth" or "TRVTH"?
Only a LIAR asks what is TRVTH? - Pilate.
I constructed that whole post, and _that's_ what you
came out with on the other end? smdh.
Some of us (TINU), for whom the "truth" has become synonymous with
"TRVTH", have learned to *survive* by pulling the wool over our
_own_ eyes.
All we can do is try to leverage what time we have left, to try
to make the world a better place.
(And here it is, almost 2 in the morning, and I'm taking the
time to explain that. For more fun, I joust windmills.)
It should go without saying, that the absolute truth can't be put
into words.
Having said that, there are actually two truths: there is relative
truth and there is absolute truth.
Just saying.
Since 1993, thousands have come here to get enlightened. Never
underestimate the power of very short spans of time. In a flash of
insight, you could be new all through. It could happen to you.
At Sun, 16 Aug 2026 21:48:27 GMT, Dude
<user2891@newsgrouper.org.invalid> wrote:
"Doc Hammerslack" <dochammerslack@creon.earth> posted:
At Sat, 15 Aug 2026 09:57:22 -0400, Noah Sombrero <fedora@fea.st>It should go without saying, that the absolute truth can't be put
wrote:
On Sat, 15 Aug 2026 06:54:10 +0000, Creon <creon@creon.earth>
wrote:
At Fri, 14 Aug 2026 20:00:49 -0700, Dude <punditster@gmail.com>
wrote:
Just tell the Truth.
Will someone, anyone, tell me the Truth? For God's sake. Just
spell out the whole goddamned absolute truth! Or, just keep on
lying. Lying to yourself! YMMV.
"In the beginning was the Word..."[*]
"Logos", thought by some pre-Socratic philosophers to mean
"the divine order" -- that is to say, the Laws of Nature.[***]
[*] Literally, "Logos"[**]
[**] An idea that had been around longer that 500 years before
the author of the fourth gospel tried to claim Jesus was its
personification.
[***] A close reading of _A Brief History of Time_ will find
Dr. Hawking appears to agree.
...Um, wait -- were you talking about "truth" or "TRVTH"?
Only a LIAR asks what is TRVTH? - Pilate.
I constructed that whole post, and _that's_ what you
came out with on the other end? smdh.
Some of us (TINU), for whom the "truth" has become synonymous with
"TRVTH", have learned to *survive* by pulling the wool over our
_own_ eyes.
All we can do is try to leverage what time we have left, to try
to make the world a better place.
(And here it is, almost 2 in the morning, and I'm taking the
time to explain that. For more fun, I joust windmills.)
into words.
Having said that, there are actually two truths: there is relative
truth and there is absolute truth.
Just saying.
Since 1993, thousands have come here to get enlightened. Never
underestimate the power of very short spans of time. In a flash of
insight, you could be new all through. It could happen to you.
You know just as well as I do that there are different types
of "enlightenment".
Kensho is one. I don't think people come here for that -- or do they?
(Beats me.)
We talked about this at our UU men's alpha group recently, where
the topic of discussion rolled around to people who self-report
certain things, such as "I am enlightened" or "I am not conscious."
(Personally, I think if someone reports themself as "not conscious",
you should believe them, and take it as an opportunity to really
talk with them about what it means to be a verifiable "philosophical zombie".)
One of the guys, a wise old sage, said, "Alright, you've found
me out -- I am 'enlightened'. Prove me wrong." Later he also
revealed he was a space alien sent to Earth to study our species.
Then he let on that he was kidding about the latter, and that he
was thinking of starting a blog with that premise.
Oh, and finally: "dart200", you could have your own blog for
the low, low price of $5/mo at Digital Ocean. (Of course, if it
gets popular, you'll need a bigger vps than the starter kit...)
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