why haven't we managed to arm to world's people against tyranny yet???
seriously if ~350 million citizens globally have guns rights while
roughly 8 billion people don't...
who's actually keeping the tyranny at bay???
dart200 <user7160@newsgrouper.org.invalid> posted:
why haven't we managed to arm to world's people against tyranny yet???Because it's not a good idea to arm your enemies? YMMV.
seriously if ~350 million citizens globally have guns rights while
roughly 8 billion people don't...
who's actually keeping the tyranny at bay???
On 8/12/26 10:52 AM, Dude wrote:
dart200 <user7160@newsgrouper.org.invalid> posted:
why haven't we managed to arm to world's people against tyranny yet???Because it's not a good idea to arm your enemies? YMMV.
seriously if ~350 million citizens globally have guns rights while
roughly 8 billion people don't...
who's actually keeping the tyranny at bay???
lol, so that's how you see the rest of the 8 billion people on this
planet, as your enemy? and therefore you're just going to leave the 8 billion human being also experiencing this reality, to fester without
the protection of rights necessary to keep tyranny at bay?? do you
believe in anything beyond helping urself dud???
dart200 <user7160@newsgrouper.org.invalid> posted:
On 8/12/26 10:52 AM, Dude wrote:"I'm not voting for anyone who thinks the wrong side won the Cold War or cheers for the Intifada like it's the World Cup."
dart200 <user7160@newsgrouper.org.invalid> posted:
why haven't we managed to arm to world's people against tyranny yet??? >>>>Because it's not a good idea to arm your enemies? YMMV.
seriously if ~350 million citizens globally have guns rights while
roughly 8 billion people don't...
who's actually keeping the tyranny at bay???
lol, so that's how you see the rest of the 8 billion people on this
planet, as your enemy? and therefore you're just going to leave the 8
billion human being also experiencing this reality, to fester without
the protection of rights necessary to keep tyranny at bay?? do you
believe in anything beyond helping urself dud???
- Bill Maher, Jul 31, 2026
On 8/12/26 12:26 PM, Dude wrote:
dart200 <user7160@newsgrouper.org.invalid> posted:
On 8/12/26 10:52 AM, Dude wrote:"I'm not voting for anyone who thinks the wrong side won the Cold War or
dart200 <user7160@newsgrouper.org.invalid> posted:
why haven't we managed to arm to world's people against tyranny yet??? >>>>>Because it's not a good idea to arm your enemies? YMMV.
seriously if ~350 million citizens globally have guns rights while
roughly 8 billion people don't...
who's actually keeping the tyranny at bay???
lol, so that's how you see the rest of the 8 billion people on this
planet, as your enemy? and therefore you're just going to leave the 8
billion human being also experiencing this reality, to fester without
the protection of rights necessary to keep tyranny at bay?? do you
believe in anything beyond helping urself dud???
cheers for the Intifada like it's the World Cup."
- Bill Maher, Jul 31, 2026
wow dud ur really that much of a halfwit? so instead of working towards giving people the rights required to keep tyranny at bay ...
ur gunna suggest we leave them without the rights because giving them
the power to keep tyranny at bay is somehow a risk to us???
how is other people having basic human rights a liability to us???
On 8/12/2026 12:44 PM, dart200 wrote:
On 8/12/26 12:26 PM, Dude wrote:The narco-terrorists involved in the human trafficking are not citizens
dart200 <user7160@newsgrouper.org.invalid> posted:
On 8/12/26 10:52 AM, Dude wrote:"I'm not voting for anyone who thinks the wrong side won the Cold War or >>> cheers for the Intifada like it's the World Cup."
dart200 <user7160@newsgrouper.org.invalid> posted:
why haven't we managed to arm to world's people against tyrannyBecause it's not a good idea to arm your enemies? YMMV.
yet???
seriously if ~350 million citizens globally have guns rights while >>>>>> roughly 8 billion people don't...
who's actually keeping the tyranny at bay???
lol, so that's how you see the rest of the 8 billion people on this
planet, as your enemy? and therefore you're just going to leave the 8
billion human being also experiencing this reality, to fester without
the protection of rights necessary to keep tyranny at bay?? do you
believe in anything beyond helping urself dud???
- Bill Maher, Jul 31, 2026
wow dud ur really that much of a halfwit? so instead of working
towards giving people the rights required to keep tyranny at bay ...
ur gunna suggest we leave them without the rights because giving them
the power to keep tyranny at bay is somehow a risk to us???
how is other people having basic human rights a liability to us???
that have gun rights in Mexico, or anywhere else. Seriously?
"I'm not voting for anyone who thinks the wrong side won the Spanish American War or cheers for the Sinaloa Cartel like it's the World Cup."--
- Dude
On 8/12/26 3:32 PM, Dude wrote:
On 8/12/2026 12:44 PM, dart200 wrote:
On 8/12/26 12:26 PM, Dude wrote:The narco-terrorists involved in the human trafficking are not
dart200 <user7160@newsgrouper.org.invalid> posted:
On 8/12/26 10:52 AM, Dude wrote:"I'm not voting for anyone who thinks the wrong side won the Cold
dart200 <user7160@newsgrouper.org.invalid> posted:
why haven't we managed to arm to world's people against tyranny >>>>>>> yet???Because it's not a good idea to arm your enemies? YMMV.
seriously if ~350 million citizens globally have guns rights while >>>>>>> roughly 8 billion people don't...
who's actually keeping the tyranny at bay???
lol, so that's how you see the rest of the 8 billion people on this
planet, as your enemy? and therefore you're just going to leave the 8 >>>>> billion human being also experiencing this reality, to fester without >>>>> the protection of rights necessary to keep tyranny at bay?? do you
believe in anything beyond helping urself dud???
War or
cheers for the Intifada like it's the World Cup."
- Bill Maher, Jul 31, 2026
wow dud ur really that much of a halfwit? so instead of working
towards giving people the rights required to keep tyranny at bay ...
ur gunna suggest we leave them without the rights because giving them
the power to keep tyranny at bay is somehow a risk to us???
how is other people having basic human rights a liability to us???
citizens that have gun rights in Mexico, or anywhere else. Seriously?
are you insinuating that the rest of the 8 billion people on this planet
are narco-terrorists???
"I'm not voting for anyone who thinks the wrong side won the Spanish
American War or cheers for the Sinaloa Cartel like it's the World Cup."
- Dude
On 8/12/2026 4:20 PM, dart200 wrote:
On 8/12/26 3:32 PM, Dude wrote:
On 8/12/2026 12:44 PM, dart200 wrote:
On 8/12/26 12:26 PM, Dude wrote:The narco-terrorists involved in the human trafficking are not
dart200 <user7160@newsgrouper.org.invalid> posted:
On 8/12/26 10:52 AM, Dude wrote:"I'm not voting for anyone who thinks the wrong side won the Cold
dart200 <user7160@newsgrouper.org.invalid> posted:
why haven't we managed to arm to world's people against tyranny >>>>>>>> yet???Because it's not a good idea to arm your enemies? YMMV.
seriously if ~350 million citizens globally have guns rights while >>>>>>>> roughly 8 billion people don't...
who's actually keeping the tyranny at bay???
lol, so that's how you see the rest of the 8 billion people on this >>>>>> planet, as your enemy? and therefore you're just going to leave the 8 >>>>>> billion human being also experiencing this reality, to fester without >>>>>> the protection of rights necessary to keep tyranny at bay?? do you >>>>>> believe in anything beyond helping urself dud???
War or
cheers for the Intifada like it's the World Cup."
- Bill Maher, Jul 31, 2026
wow dud ur really that much of a halfwit? so instead of working
towards giving people the rights required to keep tyranny at bay ...
ur gunna suggest we leave them without the rights because giving
them the power to keep tyranny at bay is somehow a risk to us???
how is other people having basic human rights a liability to us???
citizens that have gun rights in Mexico, or anywhere else. Seriously?
are you insinuating that the rest of the 8 billion people on this
planet are narco-terrorists???
Probably more.
For example, over 99.9% of all the people in Arabia support the intifada!
"I'm not voting for anyone who thinks the wrong side won the Spanish
American War or cheers for the Sinaloa Cartel like it's the World Cup."
- Dude
On 8/12/26 6:07 PM, Dude wrote:
On 8/12/2026 4:20 PM, dart200 wrote:
On 8/12/26 3:32 PM, Dude wrote:Probably more.
On 8/12/2026 12:44 PM, dart200 wrote:
On 8/12/26 12:26 PM, Dude wrote:The narco-terrorists involved in the human trafficking are not
dart200 <user7160@newsgrouper.org.invalid> posted:
On 8/12/26 10:52 AM, Dude wrote:"I'm not voting for anyone who thinks the wrong side won the Cold >>>>>> War or
dart200 <user7160@newsgrouper.org.invalid> posted:
why haven't we managed to arm to world's people against tyranny >>>>>>>>> yet???Because it's not a good idea to arm your enemies? YMMV.
seriously if ~350 million citizens globally have guns rights while >>>>>>>>> roughly 8 billion people don't...
who's actually keeping the tyranny at bay???
lol, so that's how you see the rest of the 8 billion people on this >>>>>>> planet, as your enemy? and therefore you're just going to leave >>>>>>> the 8
billion human being also experiencing this reality, to fester
without
the protection of rights necessary to keep tyranny at bay?? do you >>>>>>> believe in anything beyond helping urself dud???
cheers for the Intifada like it's the World Cup."
- Bill Maher, Jul 31, 2026
wow dud ur really that much of a halfwit? so instead of working
towards giving people the rights required to keep tyranny at bay ... >>>>>
ur gunna suggest we leave them without the rights because giving
them the power to keep tyranny at bay is somehow a risk to us???
how is other people having basic human rights a liability to us???
citizens that have gun rights in Mexico, or anywhere else. Seriously?
are you insinuating that the rest of the 8 billion people on this
planet are narco-terrorists???
For example, over 99.9% of all the people in Arabia support the intifada!
yeah well if they had had guns in the first place, could joos have just
gone up and kicked the palestinians right off their lands??? probably
not! drat! basic human rights wins again!
fuck you dud. fuck you and the fucking endless "rights for me and none
for thee" you fucking decrepit piece of narcissistic godshit
clearly ur incapable of feeling anymore,
but may ur children, and ur children's children, suffer until they
correct the ungodly sins you refuse to address EfOAEfOAEfOA
"I'm not voting for anyone who thinks the wrong side won the Spanish
American War or cheers for the Sinaloa Cartel like it's the World Cup." >>>> - Dude
On 8/12/2026 6:41 PM, dart200 wrote:
On 8/12/26 6:07 PM, Dude wrote:Apparently, 99.9% of all Israeli citizens are armed to the teeth. Don't
On 8/12/2026 4:20 PM, dart200 wrote:
On 8/12/26 3:32 PM, Dude wrote:Probably more.
On 8/12/2026 12:44 PM, dart200 wrote:are you insinuating that the rest of the 8 billion people on this
On 8/12/26 12:26 PM, Dude wrote:The narco-terrorists involved in the human trafficking are not
dart200 <user7160@newsgrouper.org.invalid> posted:
On 8/12/26 10:52 AM, Dude wrote:"I'm not voting for anyone who thinks the wrong side won the Cold >>>>>>> War or
dart200 <user7160@newsgrouper.org.invalid> posted:
why haven't we managed to arm to world's people againstBecause it's not a good idea to arm your enemies? YMMV.
tyranny yet???
seriously if ~350 million citizens globally have guns rights >>>>>>>>>> while
roughly 8 billion people don't...
who's actually keeping the tyranny at bay???
lol, so that's how you see the rest of the 8 billion people on this >>>>>>>> planet, as your enemy? and therefore you're just going to leave >>>>>>>> the 8
billion human being also experiencing this reality, to fester >>>>>>>> without
the protection of rights necessary to keep tyranny at bay?? do you >>>>>>>> believe in anything beyond helping urself dud???
cheers for the Intifada like it's the World Cup."
- Bill Maher, Jul 31, 2026
wow dud ur really that much of a halfwit? so instead of working
towards giving people the rights required to keep tyranny at bay ... >>>>>>
ur gunna suggest we leave them without the rights because giving
them the power to keep tyranny at bay is somehow a risk to us???
how is other people having basic human rights a liability to us??? >>>>>>
citizens that have gun rights in Mexico, or anywhere else. Seriously? >>>>
planet are narco-terrorists???
For example, over 99.9% of all the people in Arabia support the
intifada!
yeah well if they had had guns in the first place, could joos have
just gone up and kicked the palestinians right off their lands???
probably not! drat! basic human rights wins again!
fuck with them!
fuck you dud. fuck you and the fucking endless "rights for me and noneThat should be a wrap - you wrapped up your own thread. Good work!
for thee" you fucking decrepit piece of narcissistic godshit
clearly ur incapable of feeling anymore,To repeat:
The narco-terrorists involved in the human trafficking are not citizens
that have gun rights in Mexico, or anywhere else.
"I'm not voting for anyone who thinks the wrong side won the Cold War or cheers for the Intifada like it's the World Cup." - Bill Maher
YMMV.
but may ur children, and ur children's children, suffer until they
correct the ungodly sins you refuse to address EfOAEfOAEfOA
"I'm not voting for anyone who thinks the wrong side won the
Spanish American War or cheers for the Sinaloa Cartel like it's the >>>>> World Cup."
- Dude
On 8/13/26 10:15 AM, Dude wrote:
"I'm not voting for anyone who thinks the wrong side won the Cold War or
cheers for the Intifada like it's the World Cup." - Bill Maher
i'm not voting for anyone who doesn't think gun rights are universal you stupid anti-freedom turd
On 8/13/2026 4:42 PM, dart200 wrote:
On 8/13/26 10:15 AM, Dude wrote:
"I'm not voting for anyone who thinks the wrong side won the Cold War or >>> cheers for the Intifada like it's the World Cup." - Bill Maher
i'm not voting for anyone who doesn't think gun rights are universal
you stupid anti-freedom turd
How is it that you understand self-defense (which is the basis of gun rights) is a universal right but somehow /property/ does not rise to the same level?
Do you even ever think about the reality that guns are in fact property?
Your belief system is a bundle of contradictions.
On 8/13/26 1:52 PM, Wilson wrote:
On 8/13/2026 4:42 PM, dart200 wrote:
On 8/13/26 10:15 AM, Dude wrote:
"I'm not voting for anyone who thinks the wrong side won the Cold
War or
cheers for the Intifada like it's the World Cup." - Bill Maher
i'm not voting for anyone who doesn't think gun rights are universal
you stupid anti-freedom turd
How is it that you understand self-defense (which is the basis of gun
rights) is a universal right but somehow /property/ does not rise to
the same level?
because they aren't the same thing, and do not have the same properties
self-defense is inherently self-limiting to to oneself. unlike property rights it does not expand arbitrarily. the unbounded expansions of
property rights, on the other hand, then can interfere with the basic freedoms of others, whereas defense of one's actual self does not
nvm the fact that gun rights aren't even about self-defense like cons endlessly bleat on about EfOaEfOaEfOa, that is best left to a legal/policing system. gun rights are fundamentally about democratizing /common
defense/ against tyranny (both internally and externally), not "self- defense"
Do you even ever think about the reality that guns are in fact property?
gun ownership is very much not zero-sum, unlike the kinds of property ownership that can then interfere with the freedoms of others
So, I'm not convinced Nick has thought through.Your belief system is a bundle of contradictions.
u don't have something worthy of being called "a belief system", as it's
not established upon principles that u actually uphold generally
On 8/13/2026 4:42 PM, dart200 wrote:
On 8/13/26 10:15 AM, Dude wrote:
"I'm not voting for anyone who thinks the wrong side won the Cold War or >>> cheers for the Intifada like it's the World Cup." - Bill Maher
i'm not voting for anyone who doesn't think gun rights are universal
you stupid anti-freedom turd
How is it that you understand self-defense (which is the basis of gun rights) is a universal right but somehow /property/ does not rise to the same level?
Do you even ever think about the reality that guns are in fact property?
Your belief system is a bundle of contradictions.
On 8/13/2026 8:49 PM, dart200 wrote:
On 8/13/26 1:52 PM, Wilson wrote:
On 8/13/2026 4:42 PM, dart200 wrote:
On 8/13/26 10:15 AM, Dude wrote:
"I'm not voting for anyone who thinks the wrong side won the Cold
War or
cheers for the Intifada like it's the World Cup." - Bill Maher
i'm not voting for anyone who doesn't think gun rights are universal
you stupid anti-freedom turd
How is it that you understand self-defense (which is the basis of gun
rights) is a universal right but somehow /property/ does not rise to
the same level?
because they aren't the same thing, and do not have the same properties
self-defense is inherently self-limiting to to oneself. unlike
property rights it does not expand arbitrarily. the unbounded
expansions of property rights, on the other hand, then can interfere
with the basic freedoms of others, whereas defense of one's actual
self does not
nvm the fact that gun rights aren't even about self-defense like cons
endlessly bleat on about EfOaEfOaEfOa, that is best left to a legal/policing
system. gun rights are fundamentally about democratizing /common
defense/ against tyranny (both internally and externally), not "self-
defense"
Defending against a tyrannical government is just self defense.
Do you even ever think about the reality that guns are in fact property?
gun ownership is very much not zero-sum, unlike the kinds of property
ownership that can then interfere with the freedoms of others
Your belief system is a bundle of contradictions.
u don't have something worthy of being called "a belief system", as
it's not established upon principles that u actually uphold generally
So you see guns as being a special kind of property.
What if someone can't afford a gun? In that case it's pretty clear your ethics would require you to redistribute partial ownership of your gun
to him. He can't afford to get one of his own so you need to share.
You should be glad to do it.
On 8/14/26 9:38 AM, Wilson wrote:
On 8/13/2026 8:49 PM, dart200 wrote:
On 8/13/26 1:52 PM, Wilson wrote:
On 8/13/2026 4:42 PM, dart200 wrote:
On 8/13/26 10:15 AM, Dude wrote:
"I'm not voting for anyone who thinks the wrong side won the Cold >>>>>> War or
cheers for the Intifada like it's the World Cup." - Bill Maher
i'm not voting for anyone who doesn't think gun rights are
universal you stupid anti-freedom turd
How is it that you understand self-defense (which is the basis of
gun rights) is a universal right but somehow /property/ does not
rise to the same level?
because they aren't the same thing, and do not have the same properties
self-defense is inherently self-limiting to to oneself. unlike
property rights it does not expand arbitrarily. the unbounded
expansions of property rights, on the other hand, then can interfere
with the basic freedoms of others, whereas defense of one's actual
self does not
nvm the fact that gun rights aren't even about self-defense like cons
endlessly bleat on about EfOaEfOaEfOa, that is best left to a legal/
policing system. gun rights are fundamentally about democratizing /
common defense/ against tyranny (both internally and externally), not
"self- defense"
Defending against a tyrannical government is just self defense.
except it's not /just/ self-defense because tyranny functions at the collective level rather than just the interpersonal one.
i get that u don't acknowledge the existence of collective dynamics.
Do you even ever think about the reality that guns are in fact
property?
gun ownership is very much not zero-sum, unlike the kinds of property
ownership that can then interfere with the freedoms of others
Your belief system is a bundle of contradictions.
u don't have something worthy of being called "a belief system", as
it's not established upon principles that u actually uphold generally
So you see guns as being a special kind of property.
What if someone can't afford a gun? In that case it's pretty clear
your ethics would require you to redistribute partial ownership of
your gun to him. He can't afford to get one of his own so you need to
share.
You should be glad to do it.
i do advocate for _free_ guns u moron, so yes i do think we should
actively train and arm the population (to some high percentage). and i
think we should do so on the taxpayers dime because it's advantageous
for the preservation of liberty, to have a distributed the common
defense against tyranny. we have than enough gun production to achieve this
On 8/14/26 9:38 AM, Wilson wrote:
On 8/13/2026 8:49 PM, dart200 wrote:
On 8/13/26 1:52 PM, Wilson wrote:
On 8/13/2026 4:42 PM, dart200 wrote:
i'm not voting for anyone who doesn't think gun rights are
universal you stupid anti-freedom turd
How is it that you understand self-defense (which is the basis of
gun rights) is a universal right but somehow /property/ does not
rise to the same level?
because they aren't the same thing, and do not have the same properties
self-defense is inherently self-limiting to to oneself. unlike
property rights it does not expand arbitrarily. the unbounded
expansions of property rights, on the other hand, then can interfere
with the basic freedoms of others, whereas defense of one's actual
self does not
nvm the fact that gun rights aren't even about self-defense like cons
endlessly bleat on about EfOaEfOaEfOa, that is best left to a legal/
policing system. gun rights are fundamentally about democratizing /
common defense/ against tyranny (both internally and externally), not
"self- defense"
Defending against a tyrannical government is just self defense.
except it's not /just/ self-defense because tyranny functions at the collective level rather than just the interpersonal one.
i get that u don't acknowledge the existence of collective dynamics.
Do you even ever think about the reality that guns are in fact
property?
gun ownership is very much not zero-sum, unlike the kinds of property
ownership that can then interfere with the freedoms of others
Your belief system is a bundle of contradictions.
u don't have something worthy of being called "a belief system", as
it's not established upon principles that u actually uphold generally
So you see guns as being a special kind of property.
What if someone can't afford a gun? In that case it's pretty clear
your ethics would require you to redistribute partial ownership of
your gun to him. He can't afford to get one of his own so you need to
share.
You should be glad to do it.
i do advocate for _free_ guns u moron, so yes i do think we should
actively train and arm the population (to some high percentage). and i
think we should do so on the taxpayers dime because it's advantageous
for the preservation of liberty, to have a distributed the common
defense against tyranny. we have than enough gun production to achieve this
On 8/14/2026 5:34 PM, dart200 wrote:
On 8/14/26 9:38 AM, Wilson wrote:
On 8/13/2026 8:49 PM, dart200 wrote:
On 8/13/26 1:52 PM, Wilson wrote:
On 8/13/2026 4:42 PM, dart200 wrote:
i'm not voting for anyone who doesn't think gun rights are
universal you stupid anti-freedom turd
How is it that you understand self-defense (which is the basis of
gun rights) is a universal right but somehow /property/ does not
rise to the same level?
because they aren't the same thing, and do not have the same properties >>>>
self-defense is inherently self-limiting to to oneself. unlike
property rights it does not expand arbitrarily. the unbounded
expansions of property rights, on the other hand, then can interfere
with the basic freedoms of others, whereas defense of one's actual
self does not
nvm the fact that gun rights aren't even about self-defense like
cons endlessly bleat on about EfOaEfOaEfOa, that is best left to a legal/ >>>> policing system. gun rights are fundamentally about democratizing /
common defense/ against tyranny (both internally and externally),
not "self- defense"
Defending against a tyrannical government is just self defense.
except it's not /just/ self-defense because tyranny functions at the
collective level rather than just the interpersonal one.
i get that u don't acknowledge the existence of collective dynamics.
Whether is a bunch of people or a single individual the principle is the same.
Do you even ever think about the reality that guns are in fact
property?
gun ownership is very much not zero-sum, unlike the kinds of
property ownership that can then interfere with the freedoms of others >>>>
Your belief system is a bundle of contradictions.
u don't have something worthy of being called "a belief system", as
it's not established upon principles that u actually uphold generally
So you see guns as being a special kind of property.
What if someone can't afford a gun? In that case it's pretty clear
your ethics would require you to redistribute partial ownership of
your gun to him. He can't afford to get one of his own so you need to
share.
You should be glad to do it.
i do advocate for _free_ guns u moron, so yes i do think we should
actively train and arm the population (to some high percentage). and i
think we should do so on the taxpayers dime because it's advantageous
for the preservation of liberty, to have a distributed the common
defense against tyranny. we have than enough gun production to achieve
this
And who would be paying for the "free" guns and that training?
On 8/15/26 9:25 AM, Wilson wrote:So you're counting on the government to fund the thing that will stop
On 8/14/2026 5:34 PM, dart200 wrote:
On 8/14/26 9:38 AM, Wilson wrote:
On 8/13/2026 8:49 PM, dart200 wrote:
On 8/13/26 1:52 PM, Wilson wrote:
On 8/13/2026 4:42 PM, dart200 wrote:
i'm not voting for anyone who doesn't think gun rights are
universal you stupid anti-freedom turd
How is it that you understand self-defense (which is the basis of >>>>>> gun rights) is a universal right but somehow /property/ does not
rise to the same level?
because they aren't the same thing, and do not have the same
properties
self-defense is inherently self-limiting to to oneself. unlike
property rights it does not expand arbitrarily. the unbounded
expansions of property rights, on the other hand, then can
interfere with the basic freedoms of others, whereas defense of
one's actual self does not
nvm the fact that gun rights aren't even about self-defense like
cons endlessly bleat on about EfOaEfOaEfOa, that is best left to a legal/
policing system. gun rights are fundamentally about democratizing / >>>>> common defense/ against tyranny (both internally and externally),
not "self- defense"
Defending against a tyrannical government is just self defense.
except it's not /just/ self-defense because tyranny functions at the
collective level rather than just the interpersonal one.
i get that u don't acknowledge the existence of collective dynamics.
Whether is a bunch of people or a single individual the principle is
the same.
except they aren't cause you can't use orgs like the police to deal with common defense against internal tyranny since they would be the agents
of tyranny...
u can you use orgs like the police to deal with mere criminals, and it
is in fact a better paradigm than wantonly dumping a bunch of guns in society like brain dead americunts who can't accept basic facts measured across various societies insist we keep doing
So you see guns as being a special kind of property.
Do you even ever think about the reality that guns are in fact
property?
gun ownership is very much not zero-sum, unlike the kinds of
property ownership that can then interfere with the freedoms of others >>>>>
Your belief system is a bundle of contradictions.
u don't have something worthy of being called "a belief system", as >>>>> it's not established upon principles that u actually uphold generally >>>>
What if someone can't afford a gun? In that case it's pretty clear
your ethics would require you to redistribute partial ownership of
your gun to him. He can't afford to get one of his own so you need
to share.
You should be glad to do it.
i do advocate for _free_ guns u moron, so yes i do think we should
actively train and arm the population (to some high percentage). and
i think we should do so on the taxpayers dime because it's
advantageous for the preservation of liberty, to have a distributed
the common defense against tyranny. we have than enough gun
production to achieve this
And who would be paying for the "free" guns and that training?
progressive taxes, like how we pay for the military already dud
On 8/16/26 10:37 AM, Wilson wrote:
On 8/16/2026 1:58 AM, dart200 wrote:
On 8/15/26 9:25 AM, Wilson wrote:So you're counting on the government to fund the thing that will stop
On 8/14/2026 5:34 PM, dart200 wrote:
On 8/14/26 9:38 AM, Wilson wrote:
On 8/13/2026 8:49 PM, dart200 wrote:
On 8/13/26 1:52 PM, Wilson wrote:
Do you even ever think about the reality that guns are in fact >>>>>>>> property?
gun ownership is very much not zero-sum, unlike the kinds of
property ownership that can then interfere with the freedoms of >>>>>>> others
Your belief system is a bundle of contradictions.
u don't have something worthy of being called "a belief system", >>>>>>> as it's not established upon principles that u actually uphold
generally
So you see guns as being a special kind of property.
What if someone can't afford a gun? In that case it's pretty clear >>>>>> your ethics would require you to redistribute partial ownership of >>>>>> your gun to him. He can't afford to get one of his own so you need >>>>>> to share.
You should be glad to do it.
i do advocate for _free_ guns u moron, so yes i do think we should
actively train and arm the population (to some high percentage).
and i think we should do so on the taxpayers dime because it's
advantageous for the preservation of liberty, to have a distributed >>>>> the common defense against tyranny. we have than enough gun
production to achieve this
And who would be paying for the "free" guns and that training?
progressive taxes, like how we pay for the military already dud
the government if they get too despotic and authoritarian.
state level taxes my dud, i don't think the federal govt even has the
power to fund state militia. and yes, i expect having each state funding their own militia to be a robust enough protection against federal tyranny
On 8/16/2026 1:58 AM, dart200 wrote:
On 8/15/26 9:25 AM, Wilson wrote:So you're counting on the government to fund the thing that will stop
On 8/14/2026 5:34 PM, dart200 wrote:
On 8/14/26 9:38 AM, Wilson wrote:
On 8/13/2026 8:49 PM, dart200 wrote:
On 8/13/26 1:52 PM, Wilson wrote:
On 8/13/2026 4:42 PM, dart200 wrote:
i'm not voting for anyone who doesn't think gun rights are
universal you stupid anti-freedom turd
How is it that you understand self-defense (which is the basis of >>>>>>> gun rights) is a universal right but somehow /property/ does not >>>>>>> rise to the same level?
because they aren't the same thing, and do not have the same
properties
self-defense is inherently self-limiting to to oneself. unlike
property rights it does not expand arbitrarily. the unbounded
expansions of property rights, on the other hand, then can
interfere with the basic freedoms of others, whereas defense of
one's actual self does not
nvm the fact that gun rights aren't even about self-defense like
cons endlessly bleat on about ???, that is best left to a legal/
policing system. gun rights are fundamentally about democratizing / >>>>>> common defense/ against tyranny (both internally and externally), >>>>>> not "self- defense"
Defending against a tyrannical government is just self defense.
except it's not /just/ self-defense because tyranny functions at the
collective level rather than just the interpersonal one.
i get that u don't acknowledge the existence of collective dynamics.
Whether is a bunch of people or a single individual the principle is
the same.
except they aren't cause you can't use orgs like the police to deal with
common defense against internal tyranny since they would be the agents
of tyranny...
u can you use orgs like the police to deal with mere criminals, and it
is in fact a better paradigm than wantonly dumping a bunch of guns in
society like brain dead americunts who can't accept basic facts measured
across various societies insist we keep doing
So you see guns as being a special kind of property.
Do you even ever think about the reality that guns are in fact
property?
gun ownership is very much not zero-sum, unlike the kinds of
property ownership that can then interfere with the freedoms of others >>>>>>
Your belief system is a bundle of contradictions.
u don't have something worthy of being called "a belief system", as >>>>>> it's not established upon principles that u actually uphold generally >>>>>
What if someone can't afford a gun? In that case it's pretty clear
your ethics would require you to redistribute partial ownership of
your gun to him. He can't afford to get one of his own so you need
to share.
You should be glad to do it.
i do advocate for _free_ guns u moron, so yes i do think we should
actively train and arm the population (to some high percentage). and
i think we should do so on the taxpayers dime because it's
advantageous for the preservation of liberty, to have a distributed
the common defense against tyranny. we have than enough gun
production to achieve this
And who would be paying for the "free" guns and that training?
progressive taxes, like how we pay for the military already dud
the government if they get too despotic and authoritarian.
On 8/16/2026 1:46 PM, dart200 wrote:
On 8/16/26 10:37 AM, Wilson wrote:
On 8/16/2026 1:58 AM, dart200 wrote:
On 8/15/26 9:25 AM, Wilson wrote:So you're counting on the government to fund the thing that will stop
On 8/14/2026 5:34 PM, dart200 wrote:
On 8/14/26 9:38 AM, Wilson wrote:
On 8/13/2026 8:49 PM, dart200 wrote:
On 8/13/26 1:52 PM, Wilson wrote:
Do you even ever think about the reality that guns are in fact >>>>>>>>> property?
gun ownership is very much not zero-sum, unlike the kinds of
property ownership that can then interfere with the freedoms of >>>>>>>> others
Your belief system is a bundle of contradictions.
u don't have something worthy of being called "a belief system", >>>>>>>> as it's not established upon principles that u actually uphold >>>>>>>> generally
So you see guns as being a special kind of property.
What if someone can't afford a gun? In that case it's pretty
clear your ethics would require you to redistribute partial
ownership of your gun to him. He can't afford to get one of his >>>>>>> own so you need to share.
You should be glad to do it.
i do advocate for _free_ guns u moron, so yes i do think we should >>>>>> actively train and arm the population (to some high percentage).
and i think we should do so on the taxpayers dime because it's
advantageous for the preservation of liberty, to have a
distributed the common defense against tyranny. we have than
enough gun production to achieve this
And who would be paying for the "free" guns and that training?
progressive taxes, like how we pay for the military already dud
the government if they get too despotic and authoritarian.
state level taxes my dud, i don't think the federal govt even has the
power to fund state militia. and yes, i expect having each state
funding their own militia to be a robust enough protection against
federal tyranny
Okay. Good luck with that.
On 8/16/26 11:20 AM, Wilson wrote:
On 8/16/2026 1:46 PM, dart200 wrote:
On 8/16/26 10:37 AM, Wilson wrote:
On 8/16/2026 1:58 AM, dart200 wrote:
On 8/15/26 9:25 AM, Wilson wrote:So you're counting on the government to fund the thing that will
On 8/14/2026 5:34 PM, dart200 wrote:
On 8/14/26 9:38 AM, Wilson wrote:
On 8/13/2026 8:49 PM, dart200 wrote:
On 8/13/26 1:52 PM, Wilson wrote:
Do you even ever think about the reality that guns are in fact >>>>>>>>>> property?
gun ownership is very much not zero-sum, unlike the kinds of >>>>>>>>> property ownership that can then interfere with the freedoms of >>>>>>>>> others
Your belief system is a bundle of contradictions.
u don't have something worthy of being called "a belief
system", as it's not established upon principles that u
actually uphold generally
So you see guns as being a special kind of property.
What if someone can't afford a gun? In that case it's pretty
clear your ethics would require you to redistribute partial
ownership of your gun to him. He can't afford to get one of his >>>>>>>> own so you need to share.
You should be glad to do it.
i do advocate for _free_ guns u moron, so yes i do think we
should actively train and arm the population (to some high
percentage). and i think we should do so on the taxpayers dime
because it's advantageous for the preservation of liberty, to
have a distributed the common defense against tyranny. we have
than enough gun production to achieve this
And who would be paying for the "free" guns and that training?
progressive taxes, like how we pay for the military already dud
stop the government if they get too despotic and authoritarian.
state level taxes my dud, i don't think the federal govt even has the
power to fund state militia. and yes, i expect having each state
funding their own militia to be a robust enough protection against
federal tyranny
Okay. Good luck with that.
i put every cop's and kid's death from guns squarely on the fucking
retarded cons who refuse to deal with the massive liability that are gun rights
it's ur fault u evil motherfucker
On 8/16/2026 2:38 PM, dart200 wrote:
On 8/16/26 11:20 AM, Wilson wrote:
On 8/16/2026 1:46 PM, dart200 wrote:
On 8/16/26 10:37 AM, Wilson wrote:
On 8/16/2026 1:58 AM, dart200 wrote:
On 8/15/26 9:25 AM, Wilson wrote:So you're counting on the government to fund the thing that will
On 8/14/2026 5:34 PM, dart200 wrote:
On 8/14/26 9:38 AM, Wilson wrote:
On 8/13/2026 8:49 PM, dart200 wrote:
On 8/13/26 1:52 PM, Wilson wrote:
Do you even ever think about the reality that guns are in >>>>>>>>>>> fact property?
gun ownership is very much not zero-sum, unlike the kinds of >>>>>>>>>> property ownership that can then interfere with the freedoms >>>>>>>>>> of others
Your belief system is a bundle of contradictions.
u don't have something worthy of being called "a belief
system", as it's not established upon principles that u
actually uphold generally
So you see guns as being a special kind of property.
What if someone can't afford a gun? In that case it's pretty >>>>>>>>> clear your ethics would require you to redistribute partial >>>>>>>>> ownership of your gun to him. He can't afford to get one of his >>>>>>>>> own so you need to share.
You should be glad to do it.
i do advocate for _free_ guns u moron, so yes i do think we
should actively train and arm the population (to some high
percentage). and i think we should do so on the taxpayers dime >>>>>>>> because it's advantageous for the preservation of liberty, to >>>>>>>> have a distributed the common defense against tyranny. we have >>>>>>>> than enough gun production to achieve this
And who would be paying for the "free" guns and that training?
progressive taxes, like how we pay for the military already dud
stop the government if they get too despotic and authoritarian.
state level taxes my dud, i don't think the federal govt even has
the power to fund state militia. and yes, i expect having each state
funding their own militia to be a robust enough protection against
federal tyranny
Okay. Good luck with that.
i put every cop's and kid's death from guns squarely on the fucking
retarded cons who refuse to deal with the massive liability that are
gun rights
it's ur fault u evil motherfucker
No one cares about your evil fantasies.
On 8/16/26 11:51 AM, Wilson wrote:
On 8/16/2026 2:38 PM, dart200 wrote:
On 8/16/26 11:20 AM, Wilson wrote:
On 8/16/2026 1:46 PM, dart200 wrote:
On 8/16/26 10:37 AM, Wilson wrote:
On 8/16/2026 1:58 AM, dart200 wrote:
On 8/15/26 9:25 AM, Wilson wrote:So you're counting on the government to fund the thing that will
On 8/14/2026 5:34 PM, dart200 wrote:
On 8/14/26 9:38 AM, Wilson wrote:
On 8/13/2026 8:49 PM, dart200 wrote:
On 8/13/26 1:52 PM, Wilson wrote:
Do you even ever think about the reality that guns are in >>>>>>>>>>> fact property?
gun ownership is very much not zero-sum, unlike the kinds of >>>>>>>>>> property ownership that can then interfere with the freedoms >>>>>>>>>> of others
Your belief system is a bundle of contradictions.
u don't have something worthy of being called "a belief >>>>>>>>>> system", as it's not established upon principles that u >>>>>>>>>> actually uphold generally
So you see guns as being a special kind of property.
What if someone can't afford a gun? In that case it's pretty >>>>>>>>> clear your ethics would require you to redistribute partial >>>>>>>>> ownership of your gun to him. He can't afford to get one of his >>>>>>>>> own so you need to share.
You should be glad to do it.
i do advocate for _free_ guns u moron, so yes i do think we >>>>>>>> should actively train and arm the population (to some high
percentage). and i think we should do so on the taxpayers dime >>>>>>>> because it's advantageous for the preservation of liberty, to >>>>>>>> have a distributed the common defense against tyranny. we have >>>>>>>> than enough gun production to achieve this
And who would be paying for the "free" guns and that training?
progressive taxes, like how we pay for the military already dud
stop the government if they get too despotic and authoritarian.
state level taxes my dud, i don't think the federal govt even has
the power to fund state militia. and yes, i expect having each state >>>> funding their own militia to be a robust enough protection against
federal tyranny
Okay. Good luck with that.
i put every cop's and kid's death from guns squarely on the fucking
retarded cons who refuse to deal with the massive liability that are
gun rights
it's ur fault u evil motherfucker
No one cares about your evil fantasies.
YES, YOU DON'T FUCKING CARE ABOUT THE GUN DEATHS U EVIL MOTHERFUCKER
On 8/16/26 11:51 AM, Wilson wrote:
On 8/16/2026 2:38 PM, dart200 wrote:
On 8/16/26 11:20 AM, Wilson wrote:
On 8/16/2026 1:46 PM, dart200 wrote:
On 8/16/26 10:37 AM, Wilson wrote:
On 8/16/2026 1:58 AM, dart200 wrote:
On 8/15/26 9:25 AM, Wilson wrote:So you're counting on the government to fund the thing that will
On 8/14/2026 5:34 PM, dart200 wrote:
On 8/14/26 9:38 AM, Wilson wrote:
On 8/13/2026 8:49 PM, dart200 wrote:
On 8/13/26 1:52 PM, Wilson wrote:
Do you even ever think about the reality that guns are in >>>>>>>>>>>> fact property?
gun ownership is very much not zero-sum, unlike the kinds of >>>>>>>>>>> property ownership that can then interfere with the freedoms >>>>>>>>>>> of others
Your belief system is a bundle of contradictions.
u don't have something worthy of being called "a belief >>>>>>>>>>> system", as it's not established upon principles that u >>>>>>>>>>> actually uphold generally
So you see guns as being a special kind of property.
What if someone can't afford a gun? In that case it's pretty >>>>>>>>>> clear your ethics would require you to redistribute partial >>>>>>>>>> ownership of your gun to him. He can't afford to get one of >>>>>>>>>> his own so you need to share.
You should be glad to do it.
i do advocate for _free_ guns u moron, so yes i do think we >>>>>>>>> should actively train and arm the population (to some high
percentage). and i think we should do so on the taxpayers dime >>>>>>>>> because it's advantageous for the preservation of liberty, to >>>>>>>>> have a distributed the common defense against tyranny. we have >>>>>>>>> than enough gun production to achieve this
And who would be paying for the "free" guns and that training?
progressive taxes, like how we pay for the military already dud
stop the government if they get too despotic and authoritarian.
state level taxes my dud, i don't think the federal govt even has
the power to fund state militia. and yes, i expect having each
state funding their own militia to be a robust enough protection
against federal tyranny
Okay. Good luck with that.
i put every cop's and kid's death from guns squarely on the fucking
retarded cons who refuse to deal with the massive liability that are
gun rights
it's ur fault u evil motherfucker
No one cares about your evil fantasies.
YES, YOU DON'T FUCKING CARE ABOUT THE GUN DEATHS U EVIL MOTHERFUCKER
On 8/16/2026 3:02 PM, dart200 wrote:
On 8/16/26 11:51 AM, Wilson wrote:
On 8/16/2026 2:38 PM, dart200 wrote:
On 8/16/26 11:20 AM, Wilson wrote:
On 8/16/2026 1:46 PM, dart200 wrote:
On 8/16/26 10:37 AM, Wilson wrote:
On 8/16/2026 1:58 AM, dart200 wrote:
On 8/15/26 9:25 AM, Wilson wrote:
On 8/14/2026 5:34 PM, dart200 wrote:progressive taxes, like how we pay for the military already dud >>>>>>> So you're counting on the government to fund the thing that will >>>>>>> stop the government if they get too despotic and authoritarian.
On 8/14/26 9:38 AM, Wilson wrote:
On 8/13/2026 8:49 PM, dart200 wrote:
On 8/13/26 1:52 PM, Wilson wrote:
Do you even ever think about the reality that guns are in >>>>>>>>>>>>> fact property?
gun ownership is very much not zero-sum, unlike the kinds of >>>>>>>>>>>> property ownership that can then interfere with the freedoms >>>>>>>>>>>> of others
Your belief system is a bundle of contradictions.
u don't have something worthy of being called "a belief >>>>>>>>>>>> system", as it's not established upon principles that u >>>>>>>>>>>> actually uphold generally
So you see guns as being a special kind of property.
What if someone can't afford a gun? In that case it's pretty >>>>>>>>>>> clear your ethics would require you to redistribute partial >>>>>>>>>>> ownership of your gun to him. He can't afford to get one of >>>>>>>>>>> his own so you need to share.
You should be glad to do it.
i do advocate for _free_ guns u moron, so yes i do think we >>>>>>>>>> should actively train and arm the population (to some high >>>>>>>>>> percentage). and i think we should do so on the taxpayers dime >>>>>>>>>> because it's advantageous for the preservation of liberty, to >>>>>>>>>> have a distributed the common defense against tyranny. we have >>>>>>>>>> than enough gun production to achieve this
And who would be paying for the "free" guns and that training? >>>>>>>>
state level taxes my dud, i don't think the federal govt even has >>>>>> the power to fund state militia. and yes, i expect having each
state funding their own militia to be a robust enough protection
against federal tyranny
Okay. Good luck with that.
i put every cop's and kid's death from guns squarely on the fucking
retarded cons who refuse to deal with the massive liability that are
gun rights
it's ur fault u evil motherfucker
No one cares about your evil fantasies.
YES, YOU DON'T FUCKING CARE ABOUT THE GUN DEATHS U EVIL MOTHERFUCKER
I dont care about your evil fantasies.
On 8/16/26 12:29 PM, Wilson wrote:
On 8/16/2026 3:02 PM, dart200 wrote:
On 8/16/26 11:51 AM, Wilson wrote:
On 8/16/2026 2:38 PM, dart200 wrote:
On 8/16/26 11:20 AM, Wilson wrote:
On 8/16/2026 1:46 PM, dart200 wrote:
On 8/16/26 10:37 AM, Wilson wrote:
On 8/16/2026 1:58 AM, dart200 wrote:state level taxes my dud, i don't think the federal govt even has >>>>>>> the power to fund state militia. and yes, i expect having each
On 8/15/26 9:25 AM, Wilson wrote:
On 8/14/2026 5:34 PM, dart200 wrote:progressive taxes, like how we pay for the military already dud >>>>>>>> So you're counting on the government to fund the thing that will >>>>>>>> stop the government if they get too despotic and authoritarian. >>>>>>>
On 8/14/26 9:38 AM, Wilson wrote:
On 8/13/2026 8:49 PM, dart200 wrote:
On 8/13/26 1:52 PM, Wilson wrote:
Do you even ever think about the reality that guns are in >>>>>>>>>>>>>> fact property?
gun ownership is very much not zero-sum, unlike the kinds of >>>>>>>>>>>>> property ownership that can then interfere with the freedoms >>>>>>>>>>>>> of others
Your belief system is a bundle of contradictions.
u don't have something worthy of being called "a belief >>>>>>>>>>>>> system", as it's not established upon principles that u >>>>>>>>>>>>> actually uphold generally
So you see guns as being a special kind of property.
What if someone can't afford a gun? In that case it's pretty >>>>>>>>>>>> clear your ethics would require you to redistribute partial >>>>>>>>>>>> ownership of your gun to him. He can't afford to get one of >>>>>>>>>>>> his own so you need to share.
You should be glad to do it.
i do advocate for _free_ guns u moron, so yes i do think we >>>>>>>>>>> should actively train and arm the population (to some high >>>>>>>>>>> percentage). and i think we should do so on the taxpayers dime >>>>>>>>>>> because it's advantageous for the preservation of liberty, to >>>>>>>>>>> have a distributed the common defense against tyranny. we have >>>>>>>>>>> than enough gun production to achieve this
And who would be paying for the "free" guns and that training? >>>>>>>>>
state funding their own militia to be a robust enough protection >>>>>>> against federal tyranny
Okay. Good luck with that.
i put every cop's and kid's death from guns squarely on the fucking
retarded cons who refuse to deal with the massive liability that are >>>>> gun rights
it's ur fault u evil motherfucker
No one cares about your evil fantasies.
YES, YOU DON'T FUCKING CARE ABOUT THE GUN DEATHS U EVIL MOTHERFUCKER
I dont care about your evil fantasies.
the guns deaths in country are far from fantasies u evil denialist fuck
On Aug 16, 2026 at 3:39:03rC>PM EDT, "dart200" <user7160@newsgrouper.org.invalid> wrote:
On 8/16/26 12:29 PM, Wilson wrote:
On 8/16/2026 3:02 PM, dart200 wrote:
On 8/16/26 11:51 AM, Wilson wrote:
On 8/16/2026 2:38 PM, dart200 wrote:
On 8/16/26 11:20 AM, Wilson wrote:
On 8/16/2026 1:46 PM, dart200 wrote:
On 8/16/26 10:37 AM, Wilson wrote:
On 8/16/2026 1:58 AM, dart200 wrote:state level taxes my dud, i don't think the federal govt even has >>>>>>>> the power to fund state militia. and yes, i expect having each >>>>>>>> state funding their own militia to be a robust enough protection >>>>>>>> against federal tyranny
On 8/15/26 9:25 AM, Wilson wrote:
On 8/14/2026 5:34 PM, dart200 wrote:progressive taxes, like how we pay for the military already dud >>>>>>>>> So you're counting on the government to fund the thing that will >>>>>>>>> stop the government if they get too despotic and authoritarian. >>>>>>>>
On 8/14/26 9:38 AM, Wilson wrote:
On 8/13/2026 8:49 PM, dart200 wrote:
On 8/13/26 1:52 PM, Wilson wrote:
Do you even ever think about the reality that guns are in >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> fact property?
gun ownership is very much not zero-sum, unlike the kinds of >>>>>>>>>>>>>> property ownership that can then interfere with the freedoms >>>>>>>>>>>>>> of others
Your belief system is a bundle of contradictions. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>u don't have something worthy of being called "a belief >>>>>>>>>>>>>> system", as it's not established upon principles that u >>>>>>>>>>>>>> actually uphold generally
So you see guns as being a special kind of property. >>>>>>>>>>>>>
What if someone can't afford a gun? In that case it's pretty >>>>>>>>>>>>> clear your ethics would require you to redistribute partial >>>>>>>>>>>>> ownership of your gun to him. He can't afford to get one of >>>>>>>>>>>>> his own so you need to share.
You should be glad to do it.
i do advocate for _free_ guns u moron, so yes i do think we >>>>>>>>>>>> should actively train and arm the population (to some high >>>>>>>>>>>> percentage). and i think we should do so on the taxpayers dime >>>>>>>>>>>> because it's advantageous for the preservation of liberty, to >>>>>>>>>>>> have a distributed the common defense against tyranny. we have >>>>>>>>>>>> than enough gun production to achieve this
And who would be paying for the "free" guns and that training? >>>>>>>>>>
Okay. Good luck with that.
i put every cop's and kid's death from guns squarely on the fucking >>>>>> retarded cons who refuse to deal with the massive liability that are >>>>>> gun rights
it's ur fault u evil motherfucker
No one cares about your evil fantasies.
YES, YOU DON'T FUCKING CARE ABOUT THE GUN DEATHS U EVIL MOTHERFUCKER
I dont care about your evil fantasies.
the guns deaths in country are far from fantasies u evil denialist fuck
Try to imagine if guns weren't allowed in the United States. What do you think
the statistics would look like?
The gun death rate per capita in the United States is typically 7 to 8 times higherrCothan the rate in Canada.
Overall Rates:
United States: The total firearm mortality rate is roughly 13.7 to 14+ deaths
per 100,000 people (according to data compiled by organizations like the Giffords Law Center).
Canada: The total firearm death rate is notably lower, historically hovering around 0.5 to 2.0 per 100,000 people depending on whether you look strictly at
homicides or total firearm deaths (suicides, accidents, and homicides combined).
On 8/16/26 12:29 PM, Wilson wrote:
On 8/16/2026 3:02 PM, dart200 wrote:
On 8/16/26 11:51 AM, Wilson wrote:
On 8/16/2026 2:38 PM, dart200 wrote:
On 8/16/26 11:20 AM, Wilson wrote:
On 8/16/2026 1:46 PM, dart200 wrote:
On 8/16/26 10:37 AM, Wilson wrote:
On 8/16/2026 1:58 AM, dart200 wrote:state level taxes my dud, i don't think the federal govt even has >>>>>>> the power to fund state militia. and yes, i expect having each
On 8/15/26 9:25 AM, Wilson wrote:
On 8/14/2026 5:34 PM, dart200 wrote:progressive taxes, like how we pay for the military already dud >>>>>>>> So you're counting on the government to fund the thing that will >>>>>>>> stop the government if they get too despotic and authoritarian. >>>>>>>
And who would be paying for the "free" guns and that training? >>>>>>>>>
i do advocate for _free_ guns u moron, so yes i do think we >>>>>>>>>>> should actively train and arm the population (to some high >>>>>>>>>>> percentage). and i think we should do so on the taxpayers >>>>>>>>>>> dime because it's advantageous for the preservation of
liberty, to have a distributed the common defense against >>>>>>>>>>> tyranny. we have than enough gun production to achieve this >>>>>>>>>>
state funding their own militia to be a robust enough protection >>>>>>> against federal tyranny
Okay. Good luck with that.
i put every cop's and kid's death from guns squarely on the fucking >>>>> retarded cons who refuse to deal with the massive liability that
are gun rights
it's ur fault u evil motherfucker
No one cares about your evil fantasies.
YES, YOU DON'T FUCKING CARE ABOUT THE GUN DEATHS U EVIL MOTHERFUCKER
I dont care about your evil fantasies.
the guns deaths in country are far from fantasies u evil denialist fuck
At Sun, 16 Aug 2026 12:02:49 -0700, dart200 <user7160@newsgrouper.org.invalid> wrote:
On 8/16/26 11:51 AM, Wilson wrote:
On 8/16/2026 2:38 PM, dart200 wrote:
On 8/16/26 11:20 AM, Wilson wrote:
On 8/16/2026 1:46 PM, dart200 wrote:
On 8/16/26 10:37 AM, Wilson wrote:
On 8/16/2026 1:58 AM, dart200 wrote:
On 8/15/26 9:25 AM, Wilson wrote:
On 8/14/2026 5:34 PM, dart200 wrote:progressive taxes, like how we pay for the military already dud >>>>>>> So you're counting on the government to fund the thing that will >>>>>>> stop the government if they get too despotic and authoritarian.
On 8/14/26 9:38 AM, Wilson wrote:
On 8/13/2026 8:49 PM, dart200 wrote:
On 8/13/26 1:52 PM, Wilson wrote:
Do you even ever think about the reality that guns are in >>>>>>>>>>>>> fact property?
gun ownership is very much not zero-sum, unlike the kinds of >>>>>>>>>>>> property ownership that can then interfere with the freedoms >>>>>>>>>>>> of others
Your belief system is a bundle of contradictions.
u don't have something worthy of being called "a belief >>>>>>>>>>>> system", as it's not established upon principles that u >>>>>>>>>>>> actually uphold generally
So you see guns as being a special kind of property.
What if someone can't afford a gun? In that case it's pretty >>>>>>>>>>> clear your ethics would require you to redistribute partial >>>>>>>>>>> ownership of your gun to him. He can't afford to get one of his >>>>>>>>>>> own so you need to share.
You should be glad to do it.
i do advocate for _free_ guns u moron, so yes i do think we >>>>>>>>>> should actively train and arm the population (to some high >>>>>>>>>> percentage). and i think we should do so on the taxpayers dime >>>>>>>>>> because it's advantageous for the preservation of liberty, to >>>>>>>>>> have a distributed the common defense against tyranny. we have >>>>>>>>>> than enough gun production to achieve this
And who would be paying for the "free" guns and that training? >>>>>>>>
state level taxes my dud, i don't think the federal govt even has
the power to fund state militia. and yes, i expect having each state >>>>>> funding their own militia to be a robust enough protection against >>>>>> federal tyranny
Okay. Good luck with that.
i put every cop's and kid's death from guns squarely on the fucking
retarded cons who refuse to deal with the massive liability that are
gun rights
it's ur fault u evil motherfucker
No one cares about your evil fantasies.
YES, YOU DON'T FUCKING CARE ABOUT THE GUN DEATHS U EVIL MOTHERFUCKER
https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/RulesOfTheInternet
Rule 39: CAPS LOCK IS CRUISE CONTROL FOR COOL.
Rule 40: EVEN WITH CRUISE CONTROL YOU STILL HAVE TO STEER
A simple syllogism:
1) Self-defense is a human right.
2) Bad guys have deadly weapons.
Therefore:
3) Good guys also have deadly weapons.
Because out at the ranch: When seconds count, the sheriff is
minutes away.
On 8/16/2026 3:39 PM, dart200 wrote:
On 8/16/26 12:29 PM, Wilson wrote:
On 8/16/2026 3:02 PM, dart200 wrote:
On 8/16/26 11:51 AM, Wilson wrote:
On 8/16/2026 2:38 PM, dart200 wrote:
On 8/16/26 11:20 AM, Wilson wrote:
On 8/16/2026 1:46 PM, dart200 wrote:
On 8/16/26 10:37 AM, Wilson wrote:
On 8/16/2026 1:58 AM, dart200 wrote:
On 8/15/26 9:25 AM, Wilson wrote:authoritarian.
On 8/14/2026 5:34 PM, dart200 wrote:progressive taxes, like how we pay for the military already dud >>>>>>>>> So you're counting on the government to fund the thing that >>>>>>>>> will stop the government if they get too despotic and
And who would be paying for the "free" guns and that training? >>>>>>>>>>
i do advocate for _free_ guns u moron, so yes i do think we >>>>>>>>>>>> should actively train and arm the population (to some high >>>>>>>>>>>> percentage). and i think we should do so on the taxpayers >>>>>>>>>>>> dime because it's advantageous for the preservation of >>>>>>>>>>>> liberty, to have a distributed the common defense against >>>>>>>>>>>> tyranny. we have than enough gun production to achieve this >>>>>>>>>>>
state level taxes my dud, i don't think the federal govt even >>>>>>>> has the power to fund state militia. and yes, i expect having >>>>>>>> each state funding their own militia to be a robust enough
protection against federal tyranny
Okay. Good luck with that.
i put every cop's and kid's death from guns squarely on the
fucking retarded cons who refuse to deal with the massive
liability that are gun rights
it's ur fault u evil motherfucker
No one cares about your evil fantasies.
YES, YOU DON'T FUCKING CARE ABOUT THE GUN DEATHS U EVIL MOTHERFUCKER
I dont care about your evil fantasies.
the guns deaths in country are far from fantasies u evil denialist fuck
And you swallow the propaganda that it's law abiding people with guns
who are causing that death?
On 8/16/2026 3:39 PM, dart200 wrote:
On 8/16/26 12:29 PM, Wilson wrote:
On 8/16/2026 3:02 PM, dart200 wrote:
On 8/16/26 11:51 AM, Wilson wrote:
On 8/16/2026 2:38 PM, dart200 wrote:
On 8/16/26 11:20 AM, Wilson wrote:
On 8/16/2026 1:46 PM, dart200 wrote:
On 8/16/26 10:37 AM, Wilson wrote:
On 8/16/2026 1:58 AM, dart200 wrote:state level taxes my dud, i don't think the federal govt even has >>>>>>>> the power to fund state militia. and yes, i expect having each >>>>>>>> state funding their own militia to be a robust enough protection >>>>>>>> against federal tyranny
On 8/15/26 9:25 AM, Wilson wrote:
On 8/14/2026 5:34 PM, dart200 wrote:progressive taxes, like how we pay for the military already dud >>>>>>>>> So you're counting on the government to fund the thing that will >>>>>>>>> stop the government if they get too despotic and authoritarian. >>>>>>>>
And who would be paying for the "free" guns and that training? >>>>>>>>>>
i do advocate for _free_ guns u moron, so yes i do think we >>>>>>>>>>>> should actively train and arm the population (to some high >>>>>>>>>>>> percentage). and i think we should do so on the taxpayers >>>>>>>>>>>> dime because it's advantageous for the preservation of >>>>>>>>>>>> liberty, to have a distributed the common defense against >>>>>>>>>>>> tyranny. we have than enough gun production to achieve this >>>>>>>>>>>
Okay. Good luck with that.
i put every cop's and kid's death from guns squarely on the fucking >>>>>> retarded cons who refuse to deal with the massive liability that
are gun rights
it's ur fault u evil motherfucker
No one cares about your evil fantasies.
YES, YOU DON'T FUCKING CARE ABOUT THE GUN DEATHS U EVIL MOTHERFUCKER
I dont care about your evil fantasies.
the guns deaths in country are far from fantasies u evil denialist fuck
And you swallow the propaganda that it's law abiding people with guns
who are causing that death?
Wilson <Wilson@nowhere.invalid> wrote:
On 8/16/2026 3:39 PM, dart200 wrote:
On 8/16/26 12:29 PM, Wilson wrote:
On 8/16/2026 3:02 PM, dart200 wrote:
On 8/16/26 11:51 AM, Wilson wrote:
On 8/16/2026 2:38 PM, dart200 wrote:
On 8/16/26 11:20 AM, Wilson wrote:
On 8/16/2026 1:46 PM, dart200 wrote:
On 8/16/26 10:37 AM, Wilson wrote:
On 8/16/2026 1:58 AM, dart200 wrote:state level taxes my dud, i don't think the federal govt even has >>>>>>>>> the power to fund state militia. and yes, i expect having each >>>>>>>>> state funding their own militia to be a robust enough protection >>>>>>>>> against federal tyranny
On 8/15/26 9:25 AM, Wilson wrote:
On 8/14/2026 5:34 PM, dart200 wrote:progressive taxes, like how we pay for the military already dud >>>>>>>>>> So you're counting on the government to fund the thing that will >>>>>>>>>> stop the government if they get too despotic and authoritarian. >>>>>>>>>
And who would be paying for the "free" guns and that training? >>>>>>>>>>>
i do advocate for _free_ guns u moron, so yes i do think we >>>>>>>>>>>>> should actively train and arm the population (to some high >>>>>>>>>>>>> percentage). and i think we should do so on the taxpayers >>>>>>>>>>>>> dime because it's advantageous for the preservation of >>>>>>>>>>>>> liberty, to have a distributed the common defense against >>>>>>>>>>>>> tyranny. we have than enough gun production to achieve this >>>>>>>>>>>>
Okay. Good luck with that.
i put every cop's and kid's death from guns squarely on the fucking >>>>>>> retarded cons who refuse to deal with the massive liability that >>>>>>> are gun rights
it's ur fault u evil motherfucker
No one cares about your evil fantasies.
YES, YOU DON'T FUCKING CARE ABOUT THE GUN DEATHS U EVIL MOTHERFUCKER
I dont care about your evil fantasies.
the guns deaths in country are far from fantasies u evil denialist fuck
And you swallow the propaganda that it's law abiding people with guns
who are causing that death?
If the bad guys didnrCOt have access to guns, the law abiding people wouldnrCOt
need guns to protect them from the bad guys.
Simplistic I know but thatrCOs how it works in countries that restrict gun ownership. They just arenrCOt available for anyone, good or bad guys. (Unless in CanadarCOs case theyrCOre smuggled across the border. :( but thats minimal.)
Even if there was a ban on guns in the U S., the guns are already there and are an integrated part of your culture.
I wonder if enough of the US population wanted a gun free country, it would be possible to have one.
On Aug 16, 2026 at 3:53:17rC>PM EDT, "Tara" <tsm@fastmail.ca> wrote:
Try to imagine if guns weren't allowed in the United States. What do you think
the statistics would look like?
The gun death rate per capita in the United States is typically 7 to 8 times >> higherrCothan the rate in Canada.
Overall Rates:
United States: The total firearm mortality rate is roughly 13.7 to 14+ deaths
per 100,000 people (according to data compiled by organizations like the
Giffords Law Center).
Canada: The total firearm death rate is notably lower, historically hovering >> around 0.5 to 2.0 per 100,000 people depending on whether you look strictly at
homicides or total firearm deaths (suicides, accidents, and homicides
combined).
and this:
Homicide and Firearm Breakdown Firearm Homicides:
According to a comparative analysis by Statistics Canada, 76% of all homicides
in the United States in recent years were firearm-related, compared to 38% in Canada.
Non-Firearm Homicides: Interestingly, when firearm-related homicides are excluded, the non-firearm homicide rates in both countries are nearly identical (about 1.24 per 100,000 in the U.S. vs. 1.18 in Canada), meaning the
vast gap in total homicide and violent death rates is driven almost entirely by access to and use of firearms.For more in-depth comparative data, read the full report via Statistics Canada or explore summaries at CBC News.
On 16/08/2026 23:24, Tara wrote:
Wilson <Wilson@nowhere.invalid> wrote:
On 8/16/2026 3:39 PM, dart200 wrote:
On 8/16/26 12:29 PM, Wilson wrote:
On 8/16/2026 3:02 PM, dart200 wrote:
On 8/16/26 11:51 AM, Wilson wrote:I dont care about your evil fantasies.
On 8/16/2026 2:38 PM, dart200 wrote:
On 8/16/26 11:20 AM, Wilson wrote:
On 8/16/2026 1:46 PM, dart200 wrote:
On 8/16/26 10:37 AM, Wilson wrote:
On 8/16/2026 1:58 AM, dart200 wrote:state level taxes my dud, i don't think the federal govt even has >>>>>>>>>> the power to fund state militia. and yes, i expect having each >>>>>>>>>> state funding their own militia to be a robust enough protection >>>>>>>>>> against federal tyranny
On 8/15/26 9:25 AM, Wilson wrote:
On 8/14/2026 5:34 PM, dart200 wrote:progressive taxes, like how we pay for the military already dud >>>>>>>>>>> So you're counting on the government to fund the thing that will >>>>>>>>>>> stop the government if they get too despotic and authoritarian. >>>>>>>>>>
And who would be paying for the "free" guns and that training? >>>>>>>>>>>>
i do advocate for _free_ guns u moron, so yes i do think we >>>>>>>>>>>>>> should actively train and arm the population (to some high >>>>>>>>>>>>>> percentage). and i think we should do so on the taxpayers >>>>>>>>>>>>>> dime because it's advantageous for the preservation of >>>>>>>>>>>>>> liberty, to have a distributed the common defense against >>>>>>>>>>>>>> tyranny. we have than enough gun production to achieve this >>>>>>>>>>>>>
Okay. Good luck with that.
i put every cop's and kid's death from guns squarely on the fucking >>>>>>>> retarded cons who refuse to deal with the massive liability that >>>>>>>> are gun rights
it's ur fault u evil motherfucker
No one cares about your evil fantasies.
YES, YOU DON'T FUCKING CARE ABOUT THE GUN DEATHS U EVIL MOTHERFUCKER >>>>>
the guns deaths in country are far from fantasies u evil denialist fuck >>>>
And you swallow the propaganda that it's law abiding people with guns
who are causing that death?
If the bad guys didnrCOt have access to guns, the law abiding people
wouldnrCOt
need guns to protect them from the bad guys.
Simplistic I know but thatrCOs how it works in countries that restrict gun >> ownership. They just arenrCOt available for anyone, good or bad guys.
(Unless
in CanadarCOs case theyrCOre smuggled across the border. :( but thats
minimal.)
Even if there was a ban on guns in the U S., the guns are already
there and
are an integrated part of your culture.
I wonder if enough of the US population wanted a gun free country, it
would
be possible to have one.
They'd have to shoot everyone, not necessarily kill but surely
incapacitate, who insisted in keeping their weapon. Besides, a
government with such power would be impossible to rein in on
less wholesome issues... say enough people wanted a Jew free
country.
Wilson <Wilson@nowhere.invalid> wrote:
On 8/16/2026 3:39 PM, dart200 wrote:
On 8/16/26 12:29 PM, Wilson wrote:
On 8/16/2026 3:02 PM, dart200 wrote:
On 8/16/26 11:51 AM, Wilson wrote:
On 8/16/2026 2:38 PM, dart200 wrote:
On 8/16/26 11:20 AM, Wilson wrote:
On 8/16/2026 1:46 PM, dart200 wrote:
On 8/16/26 10:37 AM, Wilson wrote:
On 8/16/2026 1:58 AM, dart200 wrote:state level taxes my dud, i don't think the federal govt even has >>>>>>>>> the power to fund state militia. and yes, i expect having each >>>>>>>>> state funding their own militia to be a robust enough protection >>>>>>>>> against federal tyranny
On 8/15/26 9:25 AM, Wilson wrote:
On 8/14/2026 5:34 PM, dart200 wrote:progressive taxes, like how we pay for the military already dud >>>>>>>>>> So you're counting on the government to fund the thing that will >>>>>>>>>> stop the government if they get too despotic and authoritarian. >>>>>>>>>
And who would be paying for the "free" guns and that training? >>>>>>>>>>>
i do advocate for _free_ guns u moron, so yes i do think we >>>>>>>>>>>>> should actively train and arm the population (to some high >>>>>>>>>>>>> percentage). and i think we should do so on the taxpayers >>>>>>>>>>>>> dime because it's advantageous for the preservation of >>>>>>>>>>>>> liberty, to have a distributed the common defense against >>>>>>>>>>>>> tyranny. we have than enough gun production to achieve this >>>>>>>>>>>>
Okay. Good luck with that.
i put every cop's and kid's death from guns squarely on the fucking >>>>>>> retarded cons who refuse to deal with the massive liability that >>>>>>> are gun rights
it's ur fault u evil motherfucker
No one cares about your evil fantasies.
YES, YOU DON'T FUCKING CARE ABOUT THE GUN DEATHS U EVIL MOTHERFUCKER
I dont care about your evil fantasies.
the guns deaths in country are far from fantasies u evil denialist fuck
And you swallow the propaganda that it's law abiding people with guns
who are causing that death?
If the bad guys didnrCOt have access to guns, the law abiding people wouldnrCOt
need guns to protect them from the bad guys.
Simplistic I know but thatrCOs how it works in countries that restrict gun ownership. They just arenrCOt available for anyone, good or bad guys. (Unless in CanadarCOs case theyrCOre smuggled across the border. :( but thats minimal.)
Even if there was a ban on guns in the U S., the guns are already there and are an integrated part of your culture.
I wonder if enough of the US population wanted a gun free country, it would be possible to have one.
On 16/08/2026 23:24, Tara wrote:
Wilson <Wilson@nowhere.invalid> wrote:
On 8/16/2026 3:39 PM, dart200 wrote:
On 8/16/26 12:29 PM, Wilson wrote:
On 8/16/2026 3:02 PM, dart200 wrote:
On 8/16/26 11:51 AM, Wilson wrote:I dont care about your evil fantasies.
On 8/16/2026 2:38 PM, dart200 wrote:
On 8/16/26 11:20 AM, Wilson wrote:
On 8/16/2026 1:46 PM, dart200 wrote:
On 8/16/26 10:37 AM, Wilson wrote:
On 8/16/2026 1:58 AM, dart200 wrote:state level taxes my dud, i don't think the federal govt even has >>>>>>>>>> the power to fund state militia. and yes, i expect having each >>>>>>>>>> state funding their own militia to be a robust enough protection >>>>>>>>>> against federal tyranny
On 8/15/26 9:25 AM, Wilson wrote:
On 8/14/2026 5:34 PM, dart200 wrote:progressive taxes, like how we pay for the military already dud >>>>>>>>>>> So you're counting on the government to fund the thing that will >>>>>>>>>>> stop the government if they get too despotic and authoritarian. >>>>>>>>>>
And who would be paying for the "free" guns and that training? >>>>>>>>>>>>
i do advocate for _free_ guns u moron, so yes i do think we >>>>>>>>>>>>>> should actively train and arm the population (to some high >>>>>>>>>>>>>> percentage). and i think we should do so on the taxpayers >>>>>>>>>>>>>> dime because it's advantageous for the preservation of >>>>>>>>>>>>>> liberty, to have a distributed the common defense against >>>>>>>>>>>>>> tyranny. we have than enough gun production to achieve this >>>>>>>>>>>>>
Okay. Good luck with that.
i put every cop's and kid's death from guns squarely on the fucking >>>>>>>> retarded cons who refuse to deal with the massive liability that >>>>>>>> are gun rights
it's ur fault u evil motherfucker
No one cares about your evil fantasies.
YES, YOU DON'T FUCKING CARE ABOUT THE GUN DEATHS U EVIL MOTHERFUCKER >>>>>
the guns deaths in country are far from fantasies u evil denialist fuck >>>>
And you swallow the propaganda that it's law abiding people with guns
who are causing that death?
If the bad guys didnrCOt have access to guns, the law abiding people
wouldnrCOt
need guns to protect them from the bad guys.
Simplistic I know but thatrCOs how it works in countries that restrict gun >> ownership. They just arenrCOt available for anyone, good or bad guys.
(Unless
in CanadarCOs case theyrCOre smuggled across the border. :( but thats
minimal.)
Even if there was a ban on guns in the U S., the guns are already
there and
are an integrated part of your culture.
I wonder if enough of the US population wanted a gun free country, it
would
be possible to have one.
They'd have to shoot everyone, not necessarily kill but surely
incapacitate, who insisted in keeping their weapon. Besides, a
government with such power would be impossible to rein in on
less wholesome issues... say enough people wanted a Jew free
country.
On 8/16/26 3:39 PM, Julian wrote:
On 16/08/2026 23:24, Tara wrote:
Wilson <Wilson@nowhere.invalid> wrote:
On 8/16/2026 3:39 PM, dart200 wrote:
On 8/16/26 12:29 PM, Wilson wrote:
On 8/16/2026 3:02 PM, dart200 wrote:
On 8/16/26 11:51 AM, Wilson wrote:I dont care about your evil fantasies.
On 8/16/2026 2:38 PM, dart200 wrote:
On 8/16/26 11:20 AM, Wilson wrote:
On 8/16/2026 1:46 PM, dart200 wrote:
On 8/16/26 10:37 AM, Wilson wrote:
On 8/16/2026 1:58 AM, dart200 wrote:state level taxes my dud, i don't think the federal govt even >>>>>>>>>>> has
On 8/15/26 9:25 AM, Wilson wrote:So you're counting on the government to fund the thing that >>>>>>>>>>>> will
On 8/14/2026 5:34 PM, dart200 wrote:
And who would be paying for the "free" guns and that >>>>>>>>>>>>>> training?
i do advocate for _free_ guns u moron, so yes i do think we >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> should actively train and arm the population (to some high >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> percentage). and i think we should do so on the taxpayers >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> dime because it's advantageous for the preservation of >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> liberty, to have a distributed the common defense against >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> tyranny. we have than enough gun production to achieve this >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
progressive taxes, like how we pay for the military already >>>>>>>>>>>>> dud
stop the government if they get too despotic and authoritarian. >>>>>>>>>>>
the power to fund state militia. and yes, i expect having each >>>>>>>>>>> state funding their own militia to be a robust enough protection >>>>>>>>>>> against federal tyranny
Okay. Good luck with that.
i put every cop's and kid's death from guns squarely on the >>>>>>>>> fucking
retarded cons who refuse to deal with the massive liability that >>>>>>>>> are gun rights
it's ur fault u evil motherfucker
No one cares about your evil fantasies.
YES, YOU DON'T FUCKING CARE ABOUT THE GUN DEATHS U EVIL MOTHERFUCKER >>>>>>
the guns deaths in country are far from fantasies u evil denialist
fuck
And you swallow the propaganda that it's law abiding people with guns
who are causing that death?
If the bad guys didnrCOt have access to guns, the law abiding people
wouldnrCOt
need guns to protect them from the bad guys.
Simplistic I know but thatrCOs how it works in countries that restrict gun >>> ownership. They just arenrCOt available for anyone, good or bad guys.
(Unless
in CanadarCOs case theyrCOre smuggled across the border. :( but thats
minimal.)
Even if there was a ban on guns in the U S., the guns are already
there and
are an integrated part of your culture.
I wonder if enough of the US population wanted a gun free country, it
would
be possible to have one.
They'd have to shoot everyone, not necessarily kill but surely
incapacitate, who insisted in keeping their weapon. Besides, a
government with such power would be impossible to rein in on
less wholesome issues... say enough people wanted a Jew free
country.
ofc joolian brings a joo to the gunfight EfOa
On 8/16/2026 3:55 PM, Tara wrote:
On Aug 16, 2026 at 3:53:17?PM EDT, "Tara" <tsm@fastmail.ca> wrote:
Try to imagine if guns weren't allowed in the United States. What do you think
the statistics would look like?
The gun death rate per capita in the United States is typically 7 to 8 times
higheruthan the rate in Canada.
Overall Rates:
United States: The total firearm mortality rate is roughly 13.7 to 14+ deaths
per 100,000 people (according to data compiled by organizations like the >>> Giffords Law Center).
Canada: The total firearm death rate is notably lower, historically hovering
around 0.5 to 2.0 per 100,000 people depending on whether you look strictly at
homicides or total firearm deaths (suicides, accidents, and homicides
combined).
and this:
Homicide and Firearm Breakdown Firearm Homicides:
According to a comparative analysis by Statistics Canada, 76% of all homicides
in the United States in recent years were firearm-related, compared to 38% in
Canada.
Non-Firearm Homicides: Interestingly, when firearm-related homicides are
excluded, the non-firearm homicide rates in both countries are nearly
identical (about 1.24 per 100,000 in the U.S. vs. 1.18 in Canada), meaning the
vast gap in total homicide and violent death rates is driven almost entirely >> by access to and use of firearms.For more in-depth comparative data, read the
full report via Statistics Canada or explore summaries at CBC News.
Gun homicides have reportedly decreased significantly in the past two
years. Especially in the Northeast and the West.
Now look at who is actually doing the killing. There's a specific >demographic and specific ages, in particular.
https://cde.ucr.cjis.gov/LATEST/webapp/#/pages/explorer/crime/shr
For context on the percentage of each group see the chart here: >https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Race_and_ethnicity_in_the_United_States#Census-designated_ethnicities:_Hispanic_or_Latino_origin
Don't blame me, all of those are federal government stats.
On 8/16/2026 3:39 PM, dart200 wrote:
On 8/16/26 12:29 PM, Wilson wrote:
On 8/16/2026 3:02 PM, dart200 wrote:
On 8/16/26 11:51 AM, Wilson wrote:
On 8/16/2026 2:38 PM, dart200 wrote:
On 8/16/26 11:20 AM, Wilson wrote:
On 8/16/2026 1:46 PM, dart200 wrote:
On 8/16/26 10:37 AM, Wilson wrote:
On 8/16/2026 1:58 AM, dart200 wrote:state level taxes my dud, i don't think the federal govt even has >>>>>>>> the power to fund state militia. and yes, i expect having each >>>>>>>> state funding their own militia to be a robust enough protection >>>>>>>> against federal tyranny
On 8/15/26 9:25 AM, Wilson wrote:
On 8/14/2026 5:34 PM, dart200 wrote:progressive taxes, like how we pay for the military already dud >>>>>>>>> So you're counting on the government to fund the thing that will >>>>>>>>> stop the government if they get too despotic and authoritarian. >>>>>>>>
And who would be paying for the "free" guns and that training? >>>>>>>>>>
i do advocate for _free_ guns u moron, so yes i do think we >>>>>>>>>>>> should actively train and arm the population (to some high >>>>>>>>>>>> percentage). and i think we should do so on the taxpayers >>>>>>>>>>>> dime because it's advantageous for the preservation of >>>>>>>>>>>> liberty, to have a distributed the common defense against >>>>>>>>>>>> tyranny. we have than enough gun production to achieve this >>>>>>>>>>>
Okay. Good luck with that.
i put every cop's and kid's death from guns squarely on the fucking >>>>>> retarded cons who refuse to deal with the massive liability that
are gun rights
it's ur fault u evil motherfucker
No one cares about your evil fantasies.
YES, YOU DON'T FUCKING CARE ABOUT THE GUN DEATHS U EVIL MOTHERFUCKER
I dont care about your evil fantasies.
the guns deaths in country are far from fantasies u evil denialist fuck
And you swallow the propaganda that it's law abiding people with guns
who are causing that death?
On 8/16/26 11:20 AM, Wilson wrote:<snip>
On 8/16/2026 1:46 PM, dart200 wrote:
So you're counting on the government to fund the thing that will
And who would be paying for the "free" guns and that training?
progressive taxes, like how we pay for the military already dud
stop the government if they get too despotic and authoritarian.
state level taxes my dud, i don't think the federal govt even has the
power to fund state militia. and yes, i expect having each state
funding their own militia to be a robust enough protection against
federal tyranny
Okay. Good luck with that.
i put every cop's and kid's death from guns squarely on the fucking
retarded cons who refuse to deal with the massive liability that are gun rights
it's ur fault u evil motherfucker
On 8/16/26 12:25 PM, Creon wrote:
At Sun, 16 Aug 2026 12:02:49 -0700, dart200 <user7160@newsgrouper.org.invalid> wrote:
On 8/16/26 11:51 AM, Wilson wrote:
On 8/16/2026 2:38 PM, dart200 wrote:
On 8/16/26 11:20 AM, Wilson wrote:
On 8/16/2026 1:46 PM, dart200 wrote:
On 8/16/26 10:37 AM, Wilson wrote:
On 8/16/2026 1:58 AM, dart200 wrote:
On 8/15/26 9:25 AM, Wilson wrote:So you're counting on the government to fund the thing that
On 8/14/2026 5:34 PM, dart200 wrote:
On 8/14/26 9:38 AM, Wilson wrote:
On 8/13/2026 8:49 PM, dart200 wrote:
On 8/13/26 1:52 PM, Wilson wrote:
Do you even ever think about the reality that guns are >>>>>>>>>>>>> in fact property?
gun ownership is very much not zero-sum, unlike the
kinds of property ownership that can then interfere with >>>>>>>>>>>> the freedoms of others
Your belief system is a bundle of contradictions.
u don't have something worthy of being called "a belief >>>>>>>>>>>> system", as it's not established upon principles that u >>>>>>>>>>>> actually uphold generally
So you see guns as being a special kind of property.
What if someone can't afford a gun? In that case it's
pretty clear your ethics would require you to
redistribute partial ownership of your gun to him. He
can't afford to get one of his own so you need to share. >>>>>>>>>>>
You should be glad to do it.
i do advocate for _free_ guns u moron, so yes i do think >>>>>>>>>> we should actively train and arm the population (to some >>>>>>>>>> high percentage). and i think we should do so on the
taxpayers dime because it's advantageous for the
preservation of liberty, to have a distributed the common >>>>>>>>>> defense against tyranny. we have than enough gun
production to achieve this
And who would be paying for the "free" guns and that
training?
progressive taxes, like how we pay for the military already
dud
will stop the government if they get too despotic and
authoritarian.
state level taxes my dud, i don't think the federal govt even
has the power to fund state militia. and yes, i expect having
each state funding their own militia to be a robust enough
protection against federal tyranny
Okay. Good luck with that.
i put every cop's and kid's death from guns squarely on the
fucking retarded cons who refuse to deal with the massive
liability that are gun rights
it's ur fault u evil motherfucker
No one cares about your evil fantasies.
YES, YOU DON'T FUCKING CARE ABOUT THE GUN DEATHS U EVIL
MOTHERFUCKER
https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/RulesOfTheInternet
Rule 39: CAPS LOCK IS CRUISE CONTROL FOR COOL.
Rule 40: EVEN WITH CRUISE CONTROL YOU STILL HAVE TO STEER
A simple syllogism:
1) Self-defense is a human right.
2) Bad guys have deadly weapons.
Therefore:
3) Good guys also have deadly weapons.
Because out at the ranch: When seconds count, the sheriff is
minutes away.
moronic arguments like this are why u lump you in with the rest of the
cons festering in the shitshow of ignorance that is this group
At Sun, 16 Aug 2026 14:57:48 -0700, dart200 <user7160@newsgrouper.org.invalid> wrote:
On 8/16/26 12:25 PM, Creon wrote:
At Sun, 16 Aug 2026 12:02:49 -0700, dart200
<user7160@newsgrouper.org.invalid> wrote:
On 8/16/26 11:51 AM, Wilson wrote:
On 8/16/2026 2:38 PM, dart200 wrote:
On 8/16/26 11:20 AM, Wilson wrote:
On 8/16/2026 1:46 PM, dart200 wrote:
On 8/16/26 10:37 AM, Wilson wrote:
On 8/16/2026 1:58 AM, dart200 wrote:
On 8/15/26 9:25 AM, Wilson wrote:So you're counting on the government to fund the thing that
On 8/14/2026 5:34 PM, dart200 wrote:
On 8/14/26 9:38 AM, Wilson wrote:
On 8/13/2026 8:49 PM, dart200 wrote:
On 8/13/26 1:52 PM, Wilson wrote:
Do you even ever think about the reality that guns are >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> in fact property?
gun ownership is very much not zero-sum, unlike the >>>>>>>>>>>>>> kinds of property ownership that can then interfere with >>>>>>>>>>>>>> the freedoms of others
Your belief system is a bundle of contradictions. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>u don't have something worthy of being called "a belief >>>>>>>>>>>>>> system", as it's not established upon principles that u >>>>>>>>>>>>>> actually uphold generally
So you see guns as being a special kind of property. >>>>>>>>>>>>>
What if someone can't afford a gun? In that case it's >>>>>>>>>>>>> pretty clear your ethics would require you to
redistribute partial ownership of your gun to him. He >>>>>>>>>>>>> can't afford to get one of his own so you need to share. >>>>>>>>>>>>>
You should be glad to do it.
i do advocate for _free_ guns u moron, so yes i do think >>>>>>>>>>>> we should actively train and arm the population (to some >>>>>>>>>>>> high percentage). and i think we should do so on the
taxpayers dime because it's advantageous for the
preservation of liberty, to have a distributed the common >>>>>>>>>>>> defense against tyranny. we have than enough gun
production to achieve this
And who would be paying for the "free" guns and that
training?
progressive taxes, like how we pay for the military already >>>>>>>>>> dud
will stop the government if they get too despotic and
authoritarian.
state level taxes my dud, i don't think the federal govt even
has the power to fund state militia. and yes, i expect having
each state funding their own militia to be a robust enough
protection against federal tyranny
Okay. Good luck with that.
i put every cop's and kid's death from guns squarely on the
fucking retarded cons who refuse to deal with the massive
liability that are gun rights
it's ur fault u evil motherfucker
No one cares about your evil fantasies.
YES, YOU DON'T FUCKING CARE ABOUT THE GUN DEATHS U EVIL
MOTHERFUCKER
https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/RulesOfTheInternet
Rule 39: CAPS LOCK IS CRUISE CONTROL FOR COOL.
Rule 40: EVEN WITH CRUISE CONTROL YOU STILL HAVE TO STEER
A simple syllogism:
1) Self-defense is a human right.
2) Bad guys have deadly weapons.
Therefore:
3) Good guys also have deadly weapons.
Because out at the ranch: When seconds count, the sheriff is
minutes away.
moronic arguments like this are why u lump you in with the rest of the
cons festering in the shitshow of ignorance that is this group
Since you have no counter to my argument, you attempt a blatant
ad hominem logical fallacy.
Study logic. Please. If not for your sake, then for posterity's
sake -- you're embarrassing yourself, and future descendants.
At Sun, 16 Aug 2026 14:57:48 -0700, dart200 <user7160@newsgrouper.org.invalid> wrote:
On 8/16/26 12:25 PM, Creon wrote:
At Sun, 16 Aug 2026 12:02:49 -0700, dart200
<user7160@newsgrouper.org.invalid> wrote:
On 8/16/26 11:51 AM, Wilson wrote:
On 8/16/2026 2:38 PM, dart200 wrote:
On 8/16/26 11:20 AM, Wilson wrote:
On 8/16/2026 1:46 PM, dart200 wrote:
On 8/16/26 10:37 AM, Wilson wrote:
On 8/16/2026 1:58 AM, dart200 wrote:
On 8/15/26 9:25 AM, Wilson wrote:So you're counting on the government to fund the thing that
On 8/14/2026 5:34 PM, dart200 wrote:
On 8/14/26 9:38 AM, Wilson wrote:
On 8/13/2026 8:49 PM, dart200 wrote:
On 8/13/26 1:52 PM, Wilson wrote:
Do you even ever think about the reality that guns are >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> in fact property?
gun ownership is very much not zero-sum, unlike the >>>>>>>>>>>>>> kinds of property ownership that can then interfere with >>>>>>>>>>>>>> the freedoms of others
Your belief system is a bundle of contradictions. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>u don't have something worthy of being called "a belief >>>>>>>>>>>>>> system", as it's not established upon principles that u >>>>>>>>>>>>>> actually uphold generally
So you see guns as being a special kind of property. >>>>>>>>>>>>>
What if someone can't afford a gun? In that case it's >>>>>>>>>>>>> pretty clear your ethics would require you to
redistribute partial ownership of your gun to him. He >>>>>>>>>>>>> can't afford to get one of his own so you need to share. >>>>>>>>>>>>>
You should be glad to do it.
i do advocate for _free_ guns u moron, so yes i do think >>>>>>>>>>>> we should actively train and arm the population (to some >>>>>>>>>>>> high percentage). and i think we should do so on the
taxpayers dime because it's advantageous for the
preservation of liberty, to have a distributed the common >>>>>>>>>>>> defense against tyranny. we have than enough gun
production to achieve this
And who would be paying for the "free" guns and that
training?
progressive taxes, like how we pay for the military already >>>>>>>>>> dud
will stop the government if they get too despotic and
authoritarian.
state level taxes my dud, i don't think the federal govt even
has the power to fund state militia. and yes, i expect having
each state funding their own militia to be a robust enough
protection against federal tyranny
Okay. Good luck with that.
i put every cop's and kid's death from guns squarely on the
fucking retarded cons who refuse to deal with the massive
liability that are gun rights
it's ur fault u evil motherfucker
No one cares about your evil fantasies.
YES, YOU DON'T FUCKING CARE ABOUT THE GUN DEATHS U EVIL
MOTHERFUCKER
https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/RulesOfTheInternet
Rule 39: CAPS LOCK IS CRUISE CONTROL FOR COOL.
Rule 40: EVEN WITH CRUISE CONTROL YOU STILL HAVE TO STEER
A simple syllogism:
1) Self-defense is a human right.
2) Bad guys have deadly weapons.
Therefore:
3) Good guys also have deadly weapons.
Because out at the ranch: When seconds count, the sheriff is
minutes away.
moronic arguments like this are why u lump you in with the rest of the
cons festering in the shitshow of ignorance that is this group
Since you have no counter to my argument, you attempt a blatant
ad hominem logical fallacy.
Study logic. Please. If not for your sake, then for posterity's
sake -- you're embarrassing yourself, and future descendants.
Wilson <Wilson@nowhere.invalid> wrote:
On 8/16/2026 3:39 PM, dart200 wrote:
On 8/16/26 12:29 PM, Wilson wrote:
On 8/16/2026 3:02 PM, dart200 wrote:
On 8/16/26 11:51 AM, Wilson wrote:
On 8/16/2026 2:38 PM, dart200 wrote:
On 8/16/26 11:20 AM, Wilson wrote:
On 8/16/2026 1:46 PM, dart200 wrote:
On 8/16/26 10:37 AM, Wilson wrote:
On 8/16/2026 1:58 AM, dart200 wrote:
On 8/15/26 9:25 AM, Wilson wrote:So you're counting on the government to fund the thing that >>>>>>>>> will stop the government if they get too despotic and
On 8/14/2026 5:34 PM, dart200 wrote:
i do advocate for _free_ guns u moron, so yes i do think >>>>>>>>>>>> we should actively train and arm the population (to some >>>>>>>>>>>> high percentage). and i think we should do so on the >>>>>>>>>>>> taxpayers dime because it's advantageous for the
preservation of liberty, to have a distributed the
common defense against tyranny. we have than enough gun >>>>>>>>>>>> production to achieve this
And who would be paying for the "free" guns and that
training?
progressive taxes, like how we pay for the military
already dud
authoritarian.
state level taxes my dud, i don't think the federal govt
even has the power to fund state militia. and yes, i expect
having each state funding their own militia to be a robust
enough protection against federal tyranny
Okay. Good luck with that.
i put every cop's and kid's death from guns squarely on the
fucking retarded cons who refuse to deal with the massive
liability that are gun rights
it's ur fault u evil motherfucker
No one cares about your evil fantasies.
YES, YOU DON'T FUCKING CARE ABOUT THE GUN DEATHS U EVIL
MOTHERFUCKER
I dont care about your evil fantasies.
the guns deaths in country are far from fantasies u evil denialist
fuck
And you swallow the propaganda that it's law abiding people with
guns who are causing that death?
If the bad guys didnrCOt have access to guns, the law abiding people wouldnrCOt need guns to protect them from the bad guys.
Simplistic I
know but thatrCOs how it works in countries that restrict gun
ownership.
They just arenrCOt available for anyone, good or bad guys.
(Unless in CanadarCOs case theyrCOre smuggled across the border. :( but
thats minimal.) Even if there was a ban on guns in the U S., the guns
are already there and are an integrated part of your culture.
I wonder if enough of the US population wanted a gun free country, it
would be possible to have one.
At Sun, 16 Aug 2026 22:24:45 -0000 (UTC), Tara <tsm@fastmail.ca> wrote:
Wilson <Wilson@nowhere.invalid> wrote:
On 8/16/2026 3:39 PM, dart200 wrote:
On 8/16/26 12:29 PM, Wilson wrote:
On 8/16/2026 3:02 PM, dart200 wrote:
On 8/16/26 11:51 AM, Wilson wrote:
On 8/16/2026 2:38 PM, dart200 wrote:
On 8/16/26 11:20 AM, Wilson wrote:
On 8/16/2026 1:46 PM, dart200 wrote:
On 8/16/26 10:37 AM, Wilson wrote:
On 8/16/2026 1:58 AM, dart200 wrote:
On 8/15/26 9:25 AM, Wilson wrote:So you're counting on the government to fund the thing that >>>>>>>>>>> will stop the government if they get too despotic and
On 8/14/2026 5:34 PM, dart200 wrote:
i do advocate for _free_ guns u moron, so yes i do think >>>>>>>>>>>>>> we should actively train and arm the population (to some >>>>>>>>>>>>>> high percentage). and i think we should do so on the >>>>>>>>>>>>>> taxpayers dime because it's advantageous for the
preservation of liberty, to have a distributed the >>>>>>>>>>>>>> common defense against tyranny. we have than enough gun >>>>>>>>>>>>>> production to achieve this
And who would be paying for the "free" guns and that >>>>>>>>>>>>> training?
progressive taxes, like how we pay for the military
already dud
authoritarian.
state level taxes my dud, i don't think the federal govt
even has the power to fund state militia. and yes, i expect >>>>>>>>>> having each state funding their own militia to be a robust >>>>>>>>>> enough protection against federal tyranny
Okay. Good luck with that.
i put every cop's and kid's death from guns squarely on the
fucking retarded cons who refuse to deal with the massive
liability that are gun rights
it's ur fault u evil motherfucker
No one cares about your evil fantasies.
YES, YOU DON'T FUCKING CARE ABOUT THE GUN DEATHS U EVIL
MOTHERFUCKER
I dont care about your evil fantasies.
the guns deaths in country are far from fantasies u evil denialist
fuck
And you swallow the propaganda that it's law abiding people with
guns who are causing that death?
If the bad guys didnrCOt have access to guns, the law abiding people
wouldnrCOt need guns to protect them from the bad guys.
So a bad guy attacks with a knife instead. What does Mother Jones
use to defend herself?
At Sun, 16 Aug 2026 22:24:45 -0000 (UTC), Tara <tsm@fastmail.ca> wrote:
Wilson <Wilson@nowhere.invalid> wrote:
On 8/16/2026 3:39 PM, dart200 wrote:
On 8/16/26 12:29 PM, Wilson wrote:
On 8/16/2026 3:02 PM, dart200 wrote:
On 8/16/26 11:51 AM, Wilson wrote:
On 8/16/2026 2:38 PM, dart200 wrote:
On 8/16/26 11:20 AM, Wilson wrote:
On 8/16/2026 1:46 PM, dart200 wrote:
On 8/16/26 10:37 AM, Wilson wrote:
On 8/16/2026 1:58 AM, dart200 wrote:
On 8/15/26 9:25 AM, Wilson wrote:So you're counting on the government to fund the thing that >>>>>>>>>>> will stop the government if they get too despotic and
On 8/14/2026 5:34 PM, dart200 wrote:
i do advocate for _free_ guns u moron, so yes i do think >>>>>>>>>>>>>> we should actively train and arm the population (to some >>>>>>>>>>>>>> high percentage). and i think we should do so on the >>>>>>>>>>>>>> taxpayers dime because it's advantageous for the
preservation of liberty, to have a distributed the >>>>>>>>>>>>>> common defense against tyranny. we have than enough gun >>>>>>>>>>>>>> production to achieve this
And who would be paying for the "free" guns and that >>>>>>>>>>>>> training?
progressive taxes, like how we pay for the military
already dud
authoritarian.
state level taxes my dud, i don't think the federal govt
even has the power to fund state militia. and yes, i expect >>>>>>>>>> having each state funding their own militia to be a robust >>>>>>>>>> enough protection against federal tyranny
Okay. Good luck with that.
i put every cop's and kid's death from guns squarely on the
fucking retarded cons who refuse to deal with the massive
liability that are gun rights
it's ur fault u evil motherfucker
No one cares about your evil fantasies.
YES, YOU DON'T FUCKING CARE ABOUT THE GUN DEATHS U EVIL
MOTHERFUCKER
I dont care about your evil fantasies.
the guns deaths in country are far from fantasies u evil denialist
fuck
And you swallow the propaganda that it's law abiding people with
guns who are causing that death?
If the bad guys didnrCOt have access to guns, the law abiding people
wouldnrCOt need guns to protect them from the bad guys.
So a bad guy attacks with a knife instead. What does Mother Jones
use to defend herself?
It's called an "equalizer".
In the UK, you can't even walk down the street with a lockblade
in your pocket.
Simplistic I
know but thatrCOs how it works in countries that restrict gun
ownership.
There are still deadly weapons, they just need more skill/muscle
to operate.
They just arenrCOt available for anyone, good or bad guys.
(Unless in CanadarCOs case theyrCOre smuggled across the border. :( but
thats minimal.) Even if there was a ban on guns in the U S., the guns
are already there and are an integrated part of your culture.
I wonder if enough of the US population wanted a gun free country, it
would be possible to have one.
Beats me.
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