At its core, free enterprise and a market economy can be reduced in many ways to an economic ideology centered around private property.-a It gives
me extraordinary joy to see how our founders, in writing the Declaration
of Independence, declared that all men were "endowed by their Creator
with certain unalienable rights, among them are life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness."
Here, the founders took the natural rights John Locke wrote about in his Second Treatise of Government in 1690 rCo "lives, liberties, and estates, which I call by the general name, property," and broadened it.-a They presupposed that property was necessary for liberty and that the greater aspiration behind private property was "pursuit of happiness" (what we
call "human flourishing" in my tradition).
Just weeks before the Declaration of Independence was written, George
Mason had codified in the Virginia Declaration of Rights that "the
enjoyment of life and liberty, with the means of acquiring and
possessing property" were predicates to "pursuing and obtaining
happiness and safety."-a The founding fathers were not waxing and waning philosophically rCo well, they were not /only/ doing that rCo they were expressing the lived experience of the settlers in the new world.
The lived experience that served as the bedrock of our nation was one of private ownership driving incentives, of communal ownership discouraging productive work, and one where resentment was inevitable when rewards
were equal, but effort was not.-a Communal ownership of property had
failed in practice because it was first a failed theory.
Private property is a natural right that flows from our ability to earn, hold, possess, retain, and manage the fruits of our own labor.-a It
produces responsibility, stewardship, and abundance that align with
human nature.
David L. Bahnsen
On 8/9/2026 8:45 AM, Wilson wrote:
At its core, free enterprise and a market economy can be reduced in many
ways to an economic ideology centered around private property.a It gives
me extraordinary joy to see how our founders, in writing the Declaration
of Independence, declared that all men were "endowed by their Creator
with certain unalienable rights, among them are life, liberty, and the
pursuit of happiness."
Here, the founders took the natural rights John Locke wrote about in his
Second Treatise of Government in 1690 u "lives, liberties, and estates,
which I call by the general name, property," and broadened it.a They
presupposed that property was necessary for liberty and that the greater
aspiration behind private property was "pursuit of happiness" (what we
call "human flourishing" in my tradition).
Just weeks before the Declaration of Independence was written, George
Mason had codified in the Virginia Declaration of Rights that "the
enjoyment of life and liberty, with the means of acquiring and
possessing property" were predicates to "pursuing and obtaining
happiness and safety."a The founding fathers were not waxing and waning
philosophically u well, they were not /only/ doing that u they were
expressing the lived experience of the settlers in the new world.
The lived experience that served as the bedrock of our nation was one of
private ownership driving incentives, of communal ownership discouraging
productive work, and one where resentment was inevitable when rewards
were equal, but effort was not.a Communal ownership of property had
failed in practice because it was first a failed theory.
Private property is a natural right that flows from our ability to earn,
hold, possess, retain, and manage the fruits of our own labor.a It
produces responsibility, stewardship, and abundance that align with
human nature.
--David L. BahnsenWe studied this in school: The French Revolution
The revolution ended noble land monopolies and peasant dues in 1789.. >Established private property as a basic human right. How?
By abolishing feudal land rights and establishing legal protections for >individual ownership in the Declaration of the Rights of Man.
On Sun, 9 Aug 2026 09:03:41 -0700, Dude <punditster@gmail.com> wrote:
On 8/9/2026 8:45 AM, Wilson wrote:
At its core, free enterprise and a market economy can be reduced in many >>> ways to an economic ideology centered around private property.-a It gives >>> me extraordinary joy to see how our founders, in writing the Declaration >>> of Independence, declared that all men were "endowed by their Creator
with certain unalienable rights, among them are life, liberty, and the
pursuit of happiness."
Here, the founders took the natural rights John Locke wrote about in his >>> Second Treatise of Government in 1690 rCo "lives, liberties, and estates, >>> which I call by the general name, property," and broadened it.-a They
presupposed that property was necessary for liberty and that the greater >>> aspiration behind private property was "pursuit of happiness" (what we
call "human flourishing" in my tradition).
Just weeks before the Declaration of Independence was written, George
Mason had codified in the Virginia Declaration of Rights that "the
enjoyment of life and liberty, with the means of acquiring and
possessing property" were predicates to "pursuing and obtaining
happiness and safety."-a The founding fathers were not waxing and waning >>> philosophically rCo well, they were not /only/ doing that rCo they were
expressing the lived experience of the settlers in the new world.
The lived experience that served as the bedrock of our nation was one of >>> private ownership driving incentives, of communal ownership discouraging >>> productive work, and one where resentment was inevitable when rewards
were equal, but effort was not.-a Communal ownership of property had
failed in practice because it was first a failed theory.
Private property is a natural right that flows from our ability to earn, >>> hold, possess, retain, and manage the fruits of our own labor.-a It
produces responsibility, stewardship, and abundance that align with
human nature.
It can be defined that way...or not.
David L. BahnsenWe studied this in school: The French Revolution
The revolution ended noble land monopolies and peasant dues in 1789..
Established private property as a basic human right. How?
By abolishing feudal land rights and establishing legal protections for
individual ownership in the Declaration of the Rights of Man.
At its core, free enterprise and a market economy can be reduced in many ways to an economic ideology centered around private property.-a It gives
me extraordinary joy to see how our founders, in writing the Declaration
of Independence, declared that all men were "endowed by their Creator
with certain unalienable rights, among them are life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness."
Here, the founders took the natural rights John Locke wrote about in his Second Treatise of Government in 1690 rCo "lives, liberties, and estates, which I call by the general name, property," and broadened it.-a They presupposed that property was necessary for liberty and that the greater aspiration behind private property was "pursuit of happiness" (what we
call "human flourishing" in my tradition).
Just weeks before the Declaration of Independence was written, George
Mason had codified in the Virginia Declaration of Rights that "the
enjoyment of life and liberty, with the means of acquiring and
possessing property" were predicates to "pursuing and obtaining
happiness and safety."-a The founding fathers were not waxing and waning philosophically rCo well, they were not /only/ doing that rCo they were expressing the lived experience of the settlers in the new world.
The lived experience that served as the bedrock of our nation was one of private ownership driving incentives, of communal ownership discouraging productive work, and one where resentment was inevitable when rewards
were equal, but effort was not.-a Communal ownership of property had
failed in practice because it was first a failed theory.
Private property is a natural right that flows from our ability to earn, hold, possess, retain, and manage the fruits of our own labor.-a It
produces responsibility, stewardship, and abundance that align with
human nature.
David L. Bahnsen
On 8/9/2026 9:18 AM, Noah Sombrero wrote:
On Sun, 9 Aug 2026 09:03:41 -0700, Dude <punditster@gmail.com> wrote:
On 8/9/2026 8:45 AM, Wilson wrote:
At its core, free enterprise and a market economy can be reduced in many >>>> ways to an economic ideology centered around private property.a It gives >>>> me extraordinary joy to see how our founders, in writing the Declaration >>>> of Independence, declared that all men were "endowed by their Creator
with certain unalienable rights, among them are life, liberty, and the >>>> pursuit of happiness."
Here, the founders took the natural rights John Locke wrote about in his >>>> Second Treatise of Government in 1690 u "lives, liberties, and estates, >>>> which I call by the general name, property," and broadened it.a They
presupposed that property was necessary for liberty and that the greater >>>> aspiration behind private property was "pursuit of happiness" (what we >>>> call "human flourishing" in my tradition).
Just weeks before the Declaration of Independence was written, George
Mason had codified in the Virginia Declaration of Rights that "the
enjoyment of life and liberty, with the means of acquiring and
possessing property" were predicates to "pursuing and obtaining
happiness and safety."a The founding fathers were not waxing and waning >>>> philosophically u well, they were not /only/ doing that u they were
expressing the lived experience of the settlers in the new world.
The lived experience that served as the bedrock of our nation was one of >>>> private ownership driving incentives, of communal ownership discouraging >>>> productive work, and one where resentment was inevitable when rewards
were equal, but effort was not.a Communal ownership of property had
failed in practice because it was first a failed theory.
Private property is a natural right that flows from our ability to earn, >>>> hold, possess, retain, and manage the fruits of our own labor.a It
produces responsibility, stewardship, and abundance that align with
human nature.
It can be defined that way...or not.
Did you complete 5th grade history class?
There is nothing a priori about it.
You're cutting out again. A natural human right is a priori, that's why
it is called a natural right, meaning from birth.
We studied this in school: The French Revolution
The revolution ended noble land monopolies and peasant dues in 1789.. >Established private property as a basic human right. How?
By abolishing feudal land rights and establishing legal protections for >individual ownership in the Declaration of the Rights of Man.
--David L. BahnsenWe studied this in school: The French Revolution
The revolution ended noble land monopolies and peasant dues in 1789..
Established private property as a basic human right. How?
By abolishing feudal land rights and establishing legal protections for
individual ownership in the Declaration of the Rights of Man.
On 8/9/26 8:45 AM, Wilson wrote:
At its core, free enterprise and a market economy can be reduced in
many ways to an economic ideology centered around private property.
It gives me extraordinary joy to see how our founders, in writing the
Declaration of Independence, declared that all men were "endowed by
their Creator with certain unalienable rights, among them are life,
liberty, and the pursuit of happiness."
Here, the founders took the natural rights John Locke wrote about in
his Second Treatise of Government in 1690 rCo "lives, liberties, and
estates, which I call by the general name, property," and broadened
it.-a They presupposed that property was necessary for liberty and that
the greater aspiration behind private property was "pursuit of
happiness" (what we call "human flourishing" in my tradition).
Just weeks before the Declaration of Independence was written, George
Mason had codified in the Virginia Declaration of Rights that "the
enjoyment of life and liberty, with the means of acquiring and
possessing property" were predicates to "pursuing and obtaining
happiness and safety."-a The founding fathers were not waxing and
waning philosophically rCo well, they were not /only/ doing that rCo they >> were expressing the lived experience of the settlers in the new world.
The lived experience that served as the bedrock of our nation was one
of private ownership driving incentives, of communal ownership
discouraging productive work, and one where resentment was inevitable
when rewards were equal, but effort was not.-a Communal ownership of
property had failed in practice because it was first a failed theory.
Private property is a natural right that flows from our ability to
earn, hold, possess, retain, and manage the fruits of our own labor.
It produces responsibility, stewardship, and abundance that align with
human nature.
David L. Bahnsen
i love how capitalists love to jerk themselves off about freedom and flourishing endlessly while ignoring the fact 7/8 are enslaved to a nation-state system that coercively interferes with basic freedom of movement
this world is a travesty of authoritarian control all you can do is keep crying endlessly about private property, as violently owning stuff is
the _only_ principle you actually care about
On Sun, 9 Aug 2026 09:32:33 -0700, Dude <punditster@gmail.com> wrote:
On 8/9/2026 9:18 AM, Noah Sombrero wrote:
On Sun, 9 Aug 2026 09:03:41 -0700, Dude <punditster@gmail.com> wrote:Did you complete 5th grade history class?
On 8/9/2026 8:45 AM, Wilson wrote:
At its core, free enterprise and a market economy can be reduced in many >>>>> ways to an economic ideology centered around private property.-a It gives >>>>> me extraordinary joy to see how our founders, in writing the Declaration >>>>> of Independence, declared that all men were "endowed by their Creator >>>>> with certain unalienable rights, among them are life, liberty, and the >>>>> pursuit of happiness."
Here, the founders took the natural rights John Locke wrote about in his >>>>> Second Treatise of Government in 1690 rCo "lives, liberties, and estates, >>>>> which I call by the general name, property," and broadened it.-a They >>>>> presupposed that property was necessary for liberty and that the greater >>>>> aspiration behind private property was "pursuit of happiness" (what we >>>>> call "human flourishing" in my tradition).
Just weeks before the Declaration of Independence was written, George >>>>> Mason had codified in the Virginia Declaration of Rights that "the
enjoyment of life and liberty, with the means of acquiring and
possessing property" were predicates to "pursuing and obtaining
happiness and safety."-a The founding fathers were not waxing and waning >>>>> philosophically rCo well, they were not /only/ doing that rCo they were >>>>> expressing the lived experience of the settlers in the new world.
The lived experience that served as the bedrock of our nation was one of >>>>> private ownership driving incentives, of communal ownership discouraging >>>>> productive work, and one where resentment was inevitable when rewards >>>>> were equal, but effort was not.-a Communal ownership of property had >>>>> failed in practice because it was first a failed theory.
Private property is a natural right that flows from our ability to earn, >>>>> hold, possess, retain, and manage the fruits of our own labor.-a It
produces responsibility, stewardship, and abundance that align with
human nature.
It can be defined that way...or not.
There is nothing a priori about it.
You're cutting out again. A natural human right is a priori, that's why
it is called a natural right, meaning from birth.
You can define it that way if you insist. I insist otherwise.
--- Synchronet 3.22a-Linux NewsLink 1.2We studied this in school: The French Revolution
The revolution ended noble land monopolies and peasant dues in 1789..
Established private property as a basic human right. How?
By abolishing feudal land rights and establishing legal protections for
individual ownership in the Declaration of the Rights of Man.
On 8/9/2026 1:34 PM, dart200 wrote:
On 8/9/26 8:45 AM, Wilson wrote:
At its core, free enterprise and a market economy can be reduced in
many ways to an economic ideology centered around private property.
It gives me extraordinary joy to see how our founders, in writing the
Declaration of Independence, declared that all men were "endowed by
their Creator with certain unalienable rights, among them are life,
liberty, and the pursuit of happiness."
Here, the founders took the natural rights John Locke wrote about in
his Second Treatise of Government in 1690 rCo "lives, liberties, and
estates, which I call by the general name, property," and broadened
it.-a They presupposed that property was necessary for liberty and
that the greater aspiration behind private property was "pursuit of
happiness" (what we call "human flourishing" in my tradition).
Just weeks before the Declaration of Independence was written, George
Mason had codified in the Virginia Declaration of Rights that "the
enjoyment of life and liberty, with the means of acquiring and
possessing property" were predicates to "pursuing and obtaining
happiness and safety."-a The founding fathers were not waxing and
waning philosophically rCo well, they were not /only/ doing that rCo they >>> were expressing the lived experience of the settlers in the new world.
The lived experience that served as the bedrock of our nation was one
of private ownership driving incentives, of communal ownership
discouraging productive work, and one where resentment was inevitable
when rewards were equal, but effort was not.-a Communal ownership of
property had failed in practice because it was first a failed theory.
Private property is a natural right that flows from our ability to
earn, hold, possess, retain, and manage the fruits of our own labor.
It produces responsibility, stewardship, and abundance that align
with human nature.
David L. Bahnsen
i love how capitalists love to jerk themselves off about freedom and
flourishing endlessly while ignoring the fact 7/8 are enslaved to a
nation-state system that coercively interferes with basic freedom of
movement
this world is a travesty of authoritarian control all you can do is
keep crying endlessly about private property, as violently owning
stuff is the _only_ principle you actually care about
Self-defense is not the initiation of violence, and as it is oriented towards the protection of life and the thriving of the human person, it
is a natural human right.
Property as gained by the effort and work of a human being is inherently
a part of that person's life. As such, defense of that property is also
a human right.
Anyone who attempts to take away one's property or other natural rights
is an enabler of tyranny, and therefore an enemy of life and of humanity.
On 8/9/26 8:45 AM, Wilson wrote:
At its core, free enterprise and a market economy can be reduced in
many ways to an economic ideology centered around private property.
It gives me extraordinary joy to see how our founders, in writing the
Declaration of Independence, declared that all men were "endowed by
their Creator with certain unalienable rights, among them are life,
liberty, and the pursuit of happiness."
Here, the founders took the natural rights John Locke wrote about in
his Second Treatise of Government in 1690 rCo "lives, liberties, and
estates, which I call by the general name, property," and broadened
it.-a They presupposed that property was necessary for liberty and that
the greater aspiration behind private property was "pursuit of
happiness" (what we call "human flourishing" in my tradition).
Just weeks before the Declaration of Independence was written, George
Mason had codified in the Virginia Declaration of Rights that "the
enjoyment of life and liberty, with the means of acquiring and
possessing property" were predicates to "pursuing and obtaining
happiness and safety."-a The founding fathers were not waxing and
waning philosophically rCo well, they were not /only/ doing that rCo they >> were expressing the lived experience of the settlers in the new world.
The lived experience that served as the bedrock of our nation was one
of private ownership driving incentives, of communal ownership
discouraging productive work, and one where resentment was inevitable
when rewards were equal, but effort was not.-a Communal ownership of
property had failed in practice because it was first a failed theory.
Private property is a natural right that flows from our ability to
earn, hold, possess, retain, and manage the fruits of our own labor.
It produces responsibility, stewardship, and abundance that align with
human nature.
David L. Bahnsen
i love how capitalists love to jerk themselves off about freedom and flourishing endlessly while ignoring the fact 7/8 are enslaved to a nation-state system that coercively interferes with basic freedom of movement
this world is a travesty of authoritarian control all you can do is keep crying endlessly about private property, as violently owning stuff is
the _only_ principle you actually care about
It's nothing to be ashamed of, Nick.what disgustingly creepy inhumane fuck you are
#god
On 8/9/2026 1:34 PM, dart200 wrote:
On 8/9/26 8:45 AM, Wilson wrote:
At its core, free enterprise and a market economy can be reduced in
many ways to an economic ideology centered around private property.
It gives me extraordinary joy to see how our founders, in writing the
Declaration of Independence, declared that all men were "endowed by
their Creator with certain unalienable rights, among them are life,
liberty, and the pursuit of happiness."
Here, the founders took the natural rights John Locke wrote about in
his Second Treatise of Government in 1690 rCo "lives, liberties, and
estates, which I call by the general name, property," and broadened
it.-a They presupposed that property was necessary for liberty and
that the greater aspiration behind private property was "pursuit of
happiness" (what we call "human flourishing" in my tradition).
Just weeks before the Declaration of Independence was written, George
Mason had codified in the Virginia Declaration of Rights that "the
enjoyment of life and liberty, with the means of acquiring and
possessing property" were predicates to "pursuing and obtaining
happiness and safety."-a The founding fathers were not waxing and
waning philosophically rCo well, they were not /only/ doing that rCo they >>> were expressing the lived experience of the settlers in the new world.
The lived experience that served as the bedrock of our nation was one
of private ownership driving incentives, of communal ownership
discouraging productive work, and one where resentment was inevitable
when rewards were equal, but effort was not.-a Communal ownership of
property had failed in practice because it was first a failed theory.
Private property is a natural right that flows from our ability to
earn, hold, possess, retain, and manage the fruits of our own labor.
It produces responsibility, stewardship, and abundance that align
with human nature.
David L. Bahnsen
i love how capitalists love to jerk themselves off about freedom and
flourishing endlessly while ignoring the fact 7/8 are enslaved to a
nation-state system that coercively interferes with basic freedom of
movement
this world is a travesty of authoritarian control all you can do is
keep crying endlessly about private property, as violently owning
stuff is the _only_ principle you actually care about
Self-defense is not the initiation of violence, and as it is oriented towards the protection of life and the thriving of the human person, it
is a natural human right.
Property as gained by the effort and work of a human being is inherently
a part of that person's life. As such, defense of that property is also
a human right.
Anyone who attempts to take away one's property or other natural rights
is an enabler of tyranny, and therefore an enemy of life and of humanity.
On 8/9/2026 10:34 AM, dart200 wrote:
On 8/9/26 8:45 AM, Wilson wrote:You are not responsible for anyone jerking themselves off, or not.
At its core, free enterprise and a market economy can be reduced in
many ways to an economic ideology centered around private property.
It gives me extraordinary joy to see how our founders, in writing the
Declaration of Independence, declared that all men were "endowed by
their Creator with certain unalienable rights, among them are life,
liberty, and the pursuit of happiness."
Here, the founders took the natural rights John Locke wrote about in
his Second Treatise of Government in 1690 rCo "lives, liberties, and
estates, which I call by the general name, property," and broadened
it.-a They presupposed that property was necessary for liberty and
that the greater aspiration behind private property was "pursuit of
happiness" (what we call "human flourishing" in my tradition).
Just weeks before the Declaration of Independence was written, George
Mason had codified in the Virginia Declaration of Rights that "the
enjoyment of life and liberty, with the means of acquiring and
possessing property" were predicates to "pursuing and obtaining
happiness and safety."-a The founding fathers were not waxing and
waning philosophically rCo well, they were not /only/ doing that rCo they >>> were expressing the lived experience of the settlers in the new world.
The lived experience that served as the bedrock of our nation was one
of private ownership driving incentives, of communal ownership
discouraging productive work, and one where resentment was inevitable
when rewards were equal, but effort was not.-a Communal ownership of
property had failed in practice because it was first a failed theory.
Private property is a natural right that flows from our ability to
earn, hold, possess, retain, and manage the fruits of our own labor.
It produces responsibility, stewardship, and abundance that align
with human nature.
David L. Bahnsen
i love how capitalists love to jerk themselves off about freedom and
flourishing endlessly while ignoring the fact 7/8 are enslaved to a
nation-state system that coercively interferes with basic freedom of
movement
You are responsible only for your own jerking off - hopefully at home on your own time, maybe in the bathroom. Hopefully nobody is forcing you to stoop to self abuse, but that happens in marriage, especially just after giving birth. YMMV.
this world is a travesty of authoritarian control all you can do isYou have my sympathies. It's tough getting cut off! Remember, you have a human right to pleasure yourself!
keep crying endlessly about private property, as violently owning
stuff is the _only_ principle you actually care about
-a-a> what disgustingly creepy inhumane fuck you areIt's nothing to be ashamed of, Nick.
-a-a> #godHope this helps.
On 8/9/26 11:28 AM, Wilson wrote:
On 8/9/2026 1:34 PM, dart200 wrote:
On 8/9/26 8:45 AM, Wilson wrote:
At its core, free enterprise and a market economy can be reduced in
many ways to an economic ideology centered around private property.
It gives me extraordinary joy to see how our founders, in writing
the Declaration of Independence, declared that all men were "endowed
by their Creator with certain unalienable rights, among them are
life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness."
Here, the founders took the natural rights John Locke wrote about in
his Second Treatise of Government in 1690 rCo "lives, liberties, and
estates, which I call by the general name, property," and broadened
it.-a They presupposed that property was necessary for liberty and
that the greater aspiration behind private property was "pursuit of
happiness" (what we call "human flourishing" in my tradition).
Just weeks before the Declaration of Independence was written,
George Mason had codified in the Virginia Declaration of Rights that
"the enjoyment of life and liberty, with the means of acquiring and
possessing property" were predicates to "pursuing and obtaining
happiness and safety."-a The founding fathers were not waxing and
waning philosophically rCo well, they were not /only/ doing that rCo
they were expressing the lived experience of the settlers in the new
world.
The lived experience that served as the bedrock of our nation was
one of private ownership driving incentives, of communal ownership
discouraging productive work, and one where resentment was
inevitable when rewards were equal, but effort was not.-a Communal
ownership of property had failed in practice because it was first a
failed theory.
Private property is a natural right that flows from our ability to
earn, hold, possess, retain, and manage the fruits of our own labor.
It produces responsibility, stewardship, and abundance that align
with human nature.
David L. Bahnsen
i love how capitalists love to jerk themselves off about freedom and
flourishing endlessly while ignoring the fact 7/8 are enslaved to a
nation-state system that coercively interferes with basic freedom of
movement
this world is a travesty of authoritarian control all you can do is
keep crying endlessly about private property, as violently owning
stuff is the _only_ principle you actually care about
Self-defense is not the initiation of violence, and as it is oriented
towards the protection of life and the thriving of the human person,
it is a natural human right.
you are _not_ your property
Property as gained by the effort and work of a human being is
inherently a part of that person's life. As such, defense of that
property is also a human right.
even the person who first came up with that predicated that right to
mixing labor with land to claim property, on there being enough common
lands left for all to utilize...
which we've gone so far past that you want to keep 7/8 people on this
planet chained to the nation state they were born in without even the permission to leave.
Anyone who attempts to take away one's property or other natural
rights is an enabler of tyranny, and therefore an enemy of life and of
humanity.
On 8/9/2026 6:12 PM, dart200 wrote:
On 8/9/26 11:28 AM, Wilson wrote:
On 8/9/2026 1:34 PM, dart200 wrote:
On 8/9/26 8:45 AM, Wilson wrote:
At its core, free enterprise and a market economy can be reduced in >>>>> many ways to an economic ideology centered around private property. >>>>> It gives me extraordinary joy to see how our founders, in writing
the Declaration of Independence, declared that all men were "endowed >>>>> by their Creator with certain unalienable rights, among them are
life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness."
Here, the founders took the natural rights John Locke wrote about in >>>>> his Second Treatise of Government in 1690 u "lives, liberties, and
estates, which I call by the general name, property," and broadened >>>>> it.a They presupposed that property was necessary for liberty and
that the greater aspiration behind private property was "pursuit of >>>>> happiness" (what we call "human flourishing" in my tradition).
Just weeks before the Declaration of Independence was written,
George Mason had codified in the Virginia Declaration of Rights that >>>>> "the enjoyment of life and liberty, with the means of acquiring and >>>>> possessing property" were predicates to "pursuing and obtaining
happiness and safety."a The founding fathers were not waxing and
waning philosophically u well, they were not /only/ doing that u
they were expressing the lived experience of the settlers in the new >>>>> world.
The lived experience that served as the bedrock of our nation was
one of private ownership driving incentives, of communal ownership
discouraging productive work, and one where resentment was
inevitable when rewards were equal, but effort was not.a Communal
ownership of property had failed in practice because it was first a >>>>> failed theory.
Private property is a natural right that flows from our ability to
earn, hold, possess, retain, and manage the fruits of our own labor. >>>>> It produces responsibility, stewardship, and abundance that align
with human nature.
David L. Bahnsen
i love how capitalists love to jerk themselves off about freedom and
flourishing endlessly while ignoring the fact 7/8 are enslaved to a
nation-state system that coercively interferes with basic freedom of
movement
this world is a travesty of authoritarian control all you can do is
keep crying endlessly about private property, as violently owning
stuff is the _only_ principle you actually care about
Self-defense is not the initiation of violence, and as it is oriented
towards the protection of life and the thriving of the human person,
it is a natural human right.
you are _not_ your property
Property as gained by the effort and work of a human being is
inherently a part of that person's life. As such, defense of that
property is also a human right.
even the person who first came up with that predicated that right to
mixing labor with land to claim property, on there being enough common
lands left for all to utilize...
which we've gone so far past that you want to keep 7/8 people on this
planet chained to the nation state they were born in without even the
permission to leave.
Anyone who attempts to take away one's property or other natural
rights is an enabler of tyranny, and therefore an enemy of life and of
humanity.
I'm not keeping them in their home countries. They just can't all come
here, that's all.
On Mon, 10 Aug 2026 11:43:59 -0400, Wilson <Wilson@nowhere.invalid>
wrote:
On 8/9/2026 6:12 PM, dart200 wrote:
On 8/9/26 11:28 AM, Wilson wrote:
On 8/9/2026 1:34 PM, dart200 wrote:
On 8/9/26 8:45 AM, Wilson wrote:
At its core, free enterprise and a market economy can be reduced in >>>>>> many ways to an economic ideology centered around private property. >>>>>> It gives me extraordinary joy to see how our founders, in writing
the Declaration of Independence, declared that all men were "endowed >>>>>> by their Creator with certain unalienable rights, among them are
life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness."
Here, the founders took the natural rights John Locke wrote about in >>>>>> his Second Treatise of Government in 1690 rCo "lives, liberties, and >>>>>> estates, which I call by the general name, property," and broadened >>>>>> it.-a They presupposed that property was necessary for liberty and >>>>>> that the greater aspiration behind private property was "pursuit of >>>>>> happiness" (what we call "human flourishing" in my tradition).
Just weeks before the Declaration of Independence was written,
George Mason had codified in the Virginia Declaration of Rights that >>>>>> "the enjoyment of life and liberty, with the means of acquiring and >>>>>> possessing property" were predicates to "pursuing and obtaining
happiness and safety."-a The founding fathers were not waxing and
waning philosophically rCo well, they were not /only/ doing that rCo >>>>>> they were expressing the lived experience of the settlers in the new >>>>>> world.
The lived experience that served as the bedrock of our nation was
one of private ownership driving incentives, of communal ownership >>>>>> discouraging productive work, and one where resentment was
inevitable when rewards were equal, but effort was not.-a Communal >>>>>> ownership of property had failed in practice because it was first a >>>>>> failed theory.
Private property is a natural right that flows from our ability to >>>>>> earn, hold, possess, retain, and manage the fruits of our own labor. >>>>>> It produces responsibility, stewardship, and abundance that align
with human nature.
David L. Bahnsen
i love how capitalists love to jerk themselves off about freedom and >>>>> flourishing endlessly while ignoring the fact 7/8 are enslaved to a
nation-state system that coercively interferes with basic freedom of >>>>> movement
this world is a travesty of authoritarian control all you can do is
keep crying endlessly about private property, as violently owning
stuff is the _only_ principle you actually care about
Self-defense is not the initiation of violence, and as it is oriented
towards the protection of life and the thriving of the human person,
it is a natural human right.
you are _not_ your property
Property as gained by the effort and work of a human being is
inherently a part of that person's life. As such, defense of that
property is also a human right.
even the person who first came up with that predicated that right to
mixing labor with land to claim property, on there being enough common
lands left for all to utilize...
which we've gone so far past that you want to keep 7/8 people on this
planet chained to the nation state they were born in without even the
permission to leave.
Anyone who attempts to take away one's property or other natural
rights is an enabler of tyranny, and therefore an enemy of life and of >>>> humanity.
I'm not keeping them in their home countries. They just can't all come
here, that's all.
Ok, lets change the wording a little.
"you want to keep 7/8 people on this
planet chained to nation states where they can have no future, no hope
of improvement in their lives without even the permission to go
somewhere better."
Same undeserved condemnation.
Regardless, coming to the us is no longer the good deal that it once
was. Too many people like wilson have no empathy for them for one
thing, and are unwilling to let them even pull carrots or clean
toilets.
On 8/10/2026 12:03 PM, Noah Sombrero wrote:
On Mon, 10 Aug 2026 11:43:59 -0400, Wilson <Wilson@nowhere.invalid>
wrote:
On 8/9/2026 6:12 PM, dart200 wrote:
On 8/9/26 11:28 AM, Wilson wrote:
On 8/9/2026 1:34 PM, dart200 wrote:
On 8/9/26 8:45 AM, Wilson wrote:
At its core, free enterprise and a market economy can be reduced in >>>>>>> many ways to an economic ideology centered around private property. >>>>>>> It gives me extraordinary joy to see how our founders, in writing >>>>>>> the Declaration of Independence, declared that all men were "endowed >>>>>>> by their Creator with certain unalienable rights, among them are >>>>>>> life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness."
Here, the founders took the natural rights John Locke wrote about in >>>>>>> his Second Treatise of Government in 1690 u "lives, liberties, and >>>>>>> estates, which I call by the general name, property," and broadened >>>>>>> it.a They presupposed that property was necessary for liberty and >>>>>>> that the greater aspiration behind private property was "pursuit of >>>>>>> happiness" (what we call "human flourishing" in my tradition).
Just weeks before the Declaration of Independence was written,
George Mason had codified in the Virginia Declaration of Rights that >>>>>>> "the enjoyment of life and liberty, with the means of acquiring and >>>>>>> possessing property" were predicates to "pursuing and obtaining
happiness and safety."a The founding fathers were not waxing and >>>>>>> waning philosophically u well, they were not /only/ doing that u >>>>>>> they were expressing the lived experience of the settlers in the new >>>>>>> world.
The lived experience that served as the bedrock of our nation was >>>>>>> one of private ownership driving incentives, of communal ownership >>>>>>> discouraging productive work, and one where resentment was
inevitable when rewards were equal, but effort was not.a Communal >>>>>>> ownership of property had failed in practice because it was first a >>>>>>> failed theory.
Private property is a natural right that flows from our ability to >>>>>>> earn, hold, possess, retain, and manage the fruits of our own labor. >>>>>>> It produces responsibility, stewardship, and abundance that align >>>>>>> with human nature.
David L. Bahnsen
i love how capitalists love to jerk themselves off about freedom and >>>>>> flourishing endlessly while ignoring the fact 7/8 are enslaved to a >>>>>> nation-state system that coercively interferes with basic freedom of >>>>>> movement
this world is a travesty of authoritarian control all you can do is >>>>>> keep crying endlessly about private property, as violently owning
stuff is the _only_ principle you actually care about
Self-defense is not the initiation of violence, and as it is oriented >>>>> towards the protection of life and the thriving of the human person, >>>>> it is a natural human right.
you are _not_ your property
Property as gained by the effort and work of a human being is
inherently a part of that person's life. As such, defense of that
property is also a human right.
even the person who first came up with that predicated that right to
mixing labor with land to claim property, on there being enough common >>>> lands left for all to utilize...
which we've gone so far past that you want to keep 7/8 people on this
planet chained to the nation state they were born in without even the
permission to leave.
Anyone who attempts to take away one's property or other natural
rights is an enabler of tyranny, and therefore an enemy of life and of >>>>> humanity.
I'm not keeping them in their home countries. They just can't all come
here, that's all.
Ok, lets change the wording a little.
"you want to keep 7/8 people on this
planet chained to nation states where they can have no future, no hope
of improvement in their lives without even the permission to go
somewhere better."
No, I don't want to keep them "chained to nation states". As far as I'm >concerned they are free to go anywhere that's willing to accept them.
I'm not even that attached to the idea of nation-states and kind of like
the idea of free places that are outside of the nation-state.
In any case, no place is obligated to accept everyone that wants to go >there. The current citizens get a say in the matter.
Same undeserved condemnation.
Regardless, coming to the us is no longer the good deal that it once
was. Too many people like wilson have no empathy for them for one
thing, and are unwilling to let them even pull carrots or clean
toilets.
You keep bringing that up and seem strangely focused on getting some >wage-slaves to pick your veggies and clean your toilets.
On Mon, 10 Aug 2026 11:43:59 -0400, Wilson <Wilson@nowhere.invalid>
wrote:
On 8/9/2026 6:12 PM, dart200 wrote:
On 8/9/26 11:28 AM, Wilson wrote:
On 8/9/2026 1:34 PM, dart200 wrote:
On 8/9/26 8:45 AM, Wilson wrote:
At its core, free enterprise and a market economy can be reduced in >>>>>> many ways to an economic ideology centered around private property. >>>>>> It gives me extraordinary joy to see how our founders, in writing
the Declaration of Independence, declared that all men were "endowed >>>>>> by their Creator with certain unalienable rights, among them are
life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness."
Here, the founders took the natural rights John Locke wrote about in >>>>>> his Second Treatise of Government in 1690 rCo "lives, liberties, and >>>>>> estates, which I call by the general name, property," and broadened >>>>>> it.-a They presupposed that property was necessary for liberty and >>>>>> that the greater aspiration behind private property was "pursuit of >>>>>> happiness" (what we call "human flourishing" in my tradition).
Just weeks before the Declaration of Independence was written,
George Mason had codified in the Virginia Declaration of Rights that >>>>>> "the enjoyment of life and liberty, with the means of acquiring and >>>>>> possessing property" were predicates to "pursuing and obtaining
happiness and safety."-a The founding fathers were not waxing and
waning philosophically rCo well, they were not /only/ doing that rCo >>>>>> they were expressing the lived experience of the settlers in the new >>>>>> world.
The lived experience that served as the bedrock of our nation was
one of private ownership driving incentives, of communal ownership >>>>>> discouraging productive work, and one where resentment was
inevitable when rewards were equal, but effort was not.-a Communal >>>>>> ownership of property had failed in practice because it was first a >>>>>> failed theory.
Private property is a natural right that flows from our ability to >>>>>> earn, hold, possess, retain, and manage the fruits of our own labor. >>>>>> It produces responsibility, stewardship, and abundance that align
with human nature.
David L. Bahnsen
i love how capitalists love to jerk themselves off about freedom and >>>>> flourishing endlessly while ignoring the fact 7/8 are enslaved to a
nation-state system that coercively interferes with basic freedom of >>>>> movement
this world is a travesty of authoritarian control all you can do is
keep crying endlessly about private property, as violently owning
stuff is the _only_ principle you actually care about
Self-defense is not the initiation of violence, and as it is oriented
towards the protection of life and the thriving of the human person,
it is a natural human right.
you are _not_ your property
Property as gained by the effort and work of a human being is
inherently a part of that person's life. As such, defense of that
property is also a human right.
even the person who first came up with that predicated that right to
mixing labor with land to claim property, on there being enough common
lands left for all to utilize...
which we've gone so far past that you want to keep 7/8 people on this
planet chained to the nation state they were born in without even the
permission to leave.
Anyone who attempts to take away one's property or other natural
rights is an enabler of tyranny, and therefore an enemy of life and of >>>> humanity.
I'm not keeping them in their home countries. They just can't all come
here, that's all.
Ok, lets change the wording a little.
"you want to keep 7/8 people on this
planet chained to nation states where they can have no future, no hope
of improvement in their lives without even the permission to go
somewhere better."
Same undeserved condemnation.
Regardless, coming to the us is no longer the good deal that it once
was. Too many people like wilson have no empathy for them for one
thing, and are unwilling to let them even pull carrots or clean
toilets.
On Mon, 10 Aug 2026 12:26:39 -0400, Wilson <Wilson@nowhere.invalid>
wrote:
On 8/10/2026 12:03 PM, Noah Sombrero wrote:
On Mon, 10 Aug 2026 11:43:59 -0400, Wilson <Wilson@nowhere.invalid>
wrote:
On 8/9/2026 6:12 PM, dart200 wrote:
On 8/9/26 11:28 AM, Wilson wrote:
On 8/9/2026 1:34 PM, dart200 wrote:
On 8/9/26 8:45 AM, Wilson wrote:
At its core, free enterprise and a market economy can be reduced in >>>>>>>> many ways to an economic ideology centered around private property. >>>>>>>> It gives me extraordinary joy to see how our founders, in writing >>>>>>>> the Declaration of Independence, declared that all men were "endowed >>>>>>>> by their Creator with certain unalienable rights, among them are >>>>>>>> life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness."
Here, the founders took the natural rights John Locke wrote about in >>>>>>>> his Second Treatise of Government in 1690 rCo "lives, liberties, and >>>>>>>> estates, which I call by the general name, property," and broadened >>>>>>>> it.-a They presupposed that property was necessary for liberty and >>>>>>>> that the greater aspiration behind private property was "pursuit of >>>>>>>> happiness" (what we call "human flourishing" in my tradition). >>>>>>>>
Just weeks before the Declaration of Independence was written, >>>>>>>> George Mason had codified in the Virginia Declaration of Rights that >>>>>>>> "the enjoyment of life and liberty, with the means of acquiring and >>>>>>>> possessing property" were predicates to "pursuing and obtaining >>>>>>>> happiness and safety."-a The founding fathers were not waxing and >>>>>>>> waning philosophically rCo well, they were not /only/ doing that rCo >>>>>>>> they were expressing the lived experience of the settlers in the new >>>>>>>> world.
The lived experience that served as the bedrock of our nation was >>>>>>>> one of private ownership driving incentives, of communal ownership >>>>>>>> discouraging productive work, and one where resentment was
inevitable when rewards were equal, but effort was not.-a Communal >>>>>>>> ownership of property had failed in practice because it was first a >>>>>>>> failed theory.
Private property is a natural right that flows from our ability to >>>>>>>> earn, hold, possess, retain, and manage the fruits of our own labor. >>>>>>>> It produces responsibility, stewardship, and abundance that align >>>>>>>> with human nature.
David L. Bahnsen
i love how capitalists love to jerk themselves off about freedom and >>>>>>> flourishing endlessly while ignoring the fact 7/8 are enslaved to a >>>>>>> nation-state system that coercively interferes with basic freedom of >>>>>>> movement
this world is a travesty of authoritarian control all you can do is >>>>>>> keep crying endlessly about private property, as violently owning >>>>>>> stuff is the _only_ principle you actually care about
Self-defense is not the initiation of violence, and as it is oriented >>>>>> towards the protection of life and the thriving of the human person, >>>>>> it is a natural human right.
you are _not_ your property
Property as gained by the effort and work of a human being is
inherently a part of that person's life. As such, defense of that
property is also a human right.
even the person who first came up with that predicated that right to >>>>> mixing labor with land to claim property, on there being enough common >>>>> lands left for all to utilize...
which we've gone so far past that you want to keep 7/8 people on this >>>>> planet chained to the nation state they were born in without even the >>>>> permission to leave.
Anyone who attempts to take away one's property or other natural
rights is an enabler of tyranny, and therefore an enemy of life and of >>>>>> humanity.
I'm not keeping them in their home countries. They just can't all come >>>> here, that's all.
Ok, lets change the wording a little.
"you want to keep 7/8 people on this
planet chained to nation states where they can have no future, no hope
of improvement in their lives without even the permission to go
somewhere better."
No, I don't want to keep them "chained to nation states". As far as I'm
concerned they are free to go anywhere that's willing to accept them.
I'm not even that attached to the idea of nation-states and kind of like
the idea of free places that are outside of the nation-state.
In any case, no place is obligated to accept everyone that wants to go
there. The current citizens get a say in the matter.
You mean they get to say no.
Unless they happen to suffer the handicap of having a conscience.
Same undeserved condemnation.
Regardless, coming to the us is no longer the good deal that it once
was. Too many people like wilson have no empathy for them for one
thing, and are unwilling to let them even pull carrots or clean
toilets.
You keep bringing that up and seem strangely focused on getting some
wage-slaves to pick your veggies and clean your toilets.
I am glad to say that from the vantage point of my basement office in
a small house in a small town in Ontario, I have no carrots to pull
and not toilets to clean.
But if I did, I would probably let them drive the tractors and trucks
and make guys like you do the nitty-gritty cause that is the mean
kinda guy I am.
On 8/9/26 3:21 PM, Dude wrote:
On 8/9/2026 10:34 AM, dart200 wrote:
On 8/9/26 8:45 AM, Wilson wrote:You are not responsible for anyone jerking themselves off, or not.
At its core, free enterprise and a market economy can be reduced in
many ways to an economic ideology centered around private property.
It gives me extraordinary joy to see how our founders, in writing
the Declaration of Independence, declared that all men were "endowed
by their Creator with certain unalienable rights, among them are
life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness."
Here, the founders took the natural rights John Locke wrote about in
his Second Treatise of Government in 1690 rCo "lives, liberties, and
estates, which I call by the general name, property," and broadened
it.-a They presupposed that property was necessary for liberty and
that the greater aspiration behind private property was "pursuit of
happiness" (what we call "human flourishing" in my tradition).
Just weeks before the Declaration of Independence was written,
George Mason had codified in the Virginia Declaration of Rights that
"the enjoyment of life and liberty, with the means of acquiring and
possessing property" were predicates to "pursuing and obtaining
happiness and safety."-a The founding fathers were not waxing and
waning philosophically rCo well, they were not /only/ doing that rCo
they were expressing the lived experience of the settlers in the new
world.
The lived experience that served as the bedrock of our nation was
one of private ownership driving incentives, of communal ownership
discouraging productive work, and one where resentment was
inevitable when rewards were equal, but effort was not.-a Communal
ownership of property had failed in practice because it was first a
failed theory.
Private property is a natural right that flows from our ability to
earn, hold, possess, retain, and manage the fruits of our own labor.
It produces responsibility, stewardship, and abundance that align
with human nature.
David L. Bahnsen
i love how capitalists love to jerk themselves off about freedom and
flourishing endlessly while ignoring the fact 7/8 are enslaved to a
nation-state system that coercively interferes with basic freedom of
movement
You are responsible only for your own jerking off - hopefully at home
on your own time, maybe in the bathroom. Hopefully nobody is forcing
you to stoop to self abuse, but that happens in marriage, especially
just after giving birth. YMMV.
You have my sympathies. It's tough getting cut off! Remember, you have
this world is a travesty of authoritarian control all you can do is
keep crying endlessly about private property, as violently owning
stuff is the _only_ principle you actually care about
a human right to pleasure yourself!
It's nothing to be ashamed of, Nick.
-a-a> what disgustingly creepy inhumane fuck you are
Hope this helps.
-a-a> #god
nice how you just ignored how capitalism went and chained 7/8 people of
the entire planet to their respective nation states in service of the
only principle they actually care about: private property
fuck you you dumb boomer cunt
get rebirthed into a 3rd world shithole
#god
On 8/9/2026 3:39 PM, dart200 wrote:
On 8/9/26 3:21 PM, Dude wrote:You are incorrect. 99.9% of all people on earth live in nation states.
On 8/9/2026 10:34 AM, dart200 wrote:
On 8/9/26 8:45 AM, Wilson wrote:You are not responsible for anyone jerking themselves off, or not.
At its core, free enterprise and a market economy can be reduced in >>>>> many ways to an economic ideology centered around private property. >>>>> It gives me extraordinary joy to see how our founders, in writing
the Declaration of Independence, declared that all men were
"endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable rights, among
them are life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness."
Here, the founders took the natural rights John Locke wrote about
in his Second Treatise of Government in 1690 rCo "lives, liberties, >>>>> and estates, which I call by the general name, property," and
broadened it.-a They presupposed that property was necessary for
liberty and that the greater aspiration behind private property was >>>>> "pursuit of happiness" (what we call "human flourishing" in my
tradition).
Just weeks before the Declaration of Independence was written,
George Mason had codified in the Virginia Declaration of Rights
that "the enjoyment of life and liberty, with the means of
acquiring and possessing property" were predicates to "pursuing and >>>>> obtaining happiness and safety."-a The founding fathers were not
waxing and waning philosophically rCo well, they were not /only/
doing that rCo they were expressing the lived experience of the
settlers in the new world.
The lived experience that served as the bedrock of our nation was
one of private ownership driving incentives, of communal ownership
discouraging productive work, and one where resentment was
inevitable when rewards were equal, but effort was not.-a Communal
ownership of property had failed in practice because it was first a >>>>> failed theory.
Private property is a natural right that flows from our ability to
earn, hold, possess, retain, and manage the fruits of our own
labor. It produces responsibility, stewardship, and abundance that
align with human nature.
David L. Bahnsen
i love how capitalists love to jerk themselves off about freedom and
flourishing endlessly while ignoring the fact 7/8 are enslaved to a
nation-state system that coercively interferes with basic freedom of
movement
You are responsible only for your own jerking off - hopefully at home
on your own time, maybe in the bathroom. Hopefully nobody is forcing
you to stoop to self abuse, but that happens in marriage, especially
just after giving birth. YMMV.
You have my sympathies. It's tough getting cut off! Remember, you
this world is a travesty of authoritarian control all you can do is
keep crying endlessly about private property, as violently owning
stuff is the _only_ principle you actually care about
have a human right to pleasure yourself!
It's nothing to be ashamed of, Nick.
-a-a> what disgustingly creepy inhumane fuck you are
Hope this helps.
-a-a> #god
nice how you just ignored how capitalism went and chained 7/8 people
of the entire planet to their respective nation states in service of
the only principle they actually care about: private property
You snipped this out:
The United Nations explicitly states that humans have rights from birth
in Article 1 of the Universal Declaration of Human Rights, which
proclaims that "all human beings are born free and equal in dignity and rights".
fuck you you dumb boomer cuntYou snipped something out and cross-posted. Let me repeat:
We studied this in school: The French Revolution
The revolution ended noble land monopolies and peasant dues in 1789.. Established private property as a basic human right. How?
By abolishing feudal land rights and establishing legal protections for individual ownership in the Declaration of the Rights of Man.
-a-a> get rebirthed into a 3rd world shithole
-a-a>
-a-a> #god
On 8/10/2026 12:03 PM, Noah Sombrero wrote:
On Mon, 10 Aug 2026 11:43:59 -0400, Wilson <Wilson@nowhere.invalid>
wrote:
On 8/9/2026 6:12 PM, dart200 wrote:
On 8/9/26 11:28 AM, Wilson wrote:
On 8/9/2026 1:34 PM, dart200 wrote:
On 8/9/26 8:45 AM, Wilson wrote:
At its core, free enterprise and a market economy can be reduced in >>>>>>> many ways to an economic ideology centered around private property. >>>>>>> It gives me extraordinary joy to see how our founders, in writing >>>>>>> the Declaration of Independence, declared that all men were "endowed >>>>>>> by their Creator with certain unalienable rights, among them are >>>>>>> life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness."
Here, the founders took the natural rights John Locke wrote about in >>>>>>> his Second Treatise of Government in 1690 rCo "lives, liberties, and >>>>>>> estates, which I call by the general name, property," and broadened >>>>>>> it.-a They presupposed that property was necessary for liberty and >>>>>>> that the greater aspiration behind private property was "pursuit of >>>>>>> happiness" (what we call "human flourishing" in my tradition).
Just weeks before the Declaration of Independence was written,
George Mason had codified in the Virginia Declaration of Rights that >>>>>>> "the enjoyment of life and liberty, with the means of acquiring and >>>>>>> possessing property" were predicates to "pursuing and obtaining
happiness and safety."-a The founding fathers were not waxing and >>>>>>> waning philosophically rCo well, they were not /only/ doing that rCo >>>>>>> they were expressing the lived experience of the settlers in the new >>>>>>> world.
The lived experience that served as the bedrock of our nation was >>>>>>> one of private ownership driving incentives, of communal ownership >>>>>>> discouraging productive work, and one where resentment was
inevitable when rewards were equal, but effort was not.-a Communal >>>>>>> ownership of property had failed in practice because it was first a >>>>>>> failed theory.
Private property is a natural right that flows from our ability to >>>>>>> earn, hold, possess, retain, and manage the fruits of our own labor. >>>>>>> It produces responsibility, stewardship, and abundance that align >>>>>>> with human nature.
David L. Bahnsen
i love how capitalists love to jerk themselves off about freedom and >>>>>> flourishing endlessly while ignoring the fact 7/8 are enslaved to a >>>>>> nation-state system that coercively interferes with basic freedom of >>>>>> movement
this world is a travesty of authoritarian control all you can do is >>>>>> keep crying endlessly about private property, as violently owning
stuff is the _only_ principle you actually care about
Self-defense is not the initiation of violence, and as it is oriented >>>>> towards the protection of life and the thriving of the human person, >>>>> it is a natural human right.
you are _not_ your property
Property as gained by the effort and work of a human being is
inherently a part of that person's life. As such, defense of that
property is also a human right.
even the person who first came up with that predicated that right to
mixing labor with land to claim property, on there being enough common >>>> lands left for all to utilize...
which we've gone so far past that you want to keep 7/8 people on this
planet chained to the nation state they were born in without even the
permission to leave.
Anyone who attempts to take away one's property or other natural
rights is an enabler of tyranny, and therefore an enemy of life and of >>>>> humanity.
I'm not keeping them in their home countries. They just can't all come
here, that's all.
Ok, lets change the wording a little.
"you want to keep 7/8 people on this
planet chained to nation states where they can have no future, no hope
of improvement in their lives without even the permission to go
somewhere better."
No, I don't want to keep them "chained to nation states". As far as I'm concerned they are free to go anywhere that's willing to accept them.
I'm not even that attached to the idea of nation-states and kind of like
the idea of free places that are outside of the nation-state.
In any case, no place is obligated to accept everyone that wants to go there. The current citizens get a say in the matter.
Same undeserved condemnation.
Regardless, coming to the us is no longer the good deal that it once
was.-a Too many people like wilson have no empathy for them for one
thing, and are unwilling to let them even pull carrots or clean
toilets.
You keep bringing that up and seem strangely focused on getting some wage-slaves to pick your veggies and clean your toilets.
On 8/10/26 10:37 AM, Dude wrote:
On 8/9/2026 3:39 PM, dart200 wrote:
On 8/9/26 3:21 PM, Dude wrote:You are incorrect. 99.9% of all people on earth live in nation states.
On 8/9/2026 10:34 AM, dart200 wrote:
On 8/9/26 8:45 AM, Wilson wrote:You are not responsible for anyone jerking themselves off, or not.
At its core, free enterprise and a market economy can be reduced
in many ways to an economic ideology centered around private
property. It gives me extraordinary joy to see how our founders,
in writing the Declaration of Independence, declared that all men >>>>>> were "endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable rights,
among them are life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness."
Here, the founders took the natural rights John Locke wrote about >>>>>> in his Second Treatise of Government in 1690 rCo "lives, liberties, >>>>>> and estates, which I call by the general name, property," and
broadened it.-a They presupposed that property was necessary for
liberty and that the greater aspiration behind private property
was "pursuit of happiness" (what we call "human flourishing" in my >>>>>> tradition).
Just weeks before the Declaration of Independence was written,
George Mason had codified in the Virginia Declaration of Rights
that "the enjoyment of life and liberty, with the means of
acquiring and possessing property" were predicates to "pursuing
and obtaining happiness and safety."-a The founding fathers were
not waxing and waning philosophically rCo well, they were not /only/ >>>>>> doing that rCo they were expressing the lived experience of the
settlers in the new world.
The lived experience that served as the bedrock of our nation was >>>>>> one of private ownership driving incentives, of communal ownership >>>>>> discouraging productive work, and one where resentment was
inevitable when rewards were equal, but effort was not.-a Communal >>>>>> ownership of property had failed in practice because it was first >>>>>> a failed theory.
Private property is a natural right that flows from our ability to >>>>>> earn, hold, possess, retain, and manage the fruits of our own
labor. It produces responsibility, stewardship, and abundance that >>>>>> align with human nature.
David L. Bahnsen
i love how capitalists love to jerk themselves off about freedom
and flourishing endlessly while ignoring the fact 7/8 are enslaved
to a nation-state system that coercively interferes with basic
freedom of movement
You are responsible only for your own jerking off - hopefully at
home on your own time, maybe in the bathroom. Hopefully nobody is
forcing you to stoop to self abuse, but that happens in marriage,
especially just after giving birth. YMMV.
You have my sympathies. It's tough getting cut off! Remember, you
this world is a travesty of authoritarian control all you can do is >>>>> keep crying endlessly about private property, as violently owning
stuff is the _only_ principle you actually care about
have a human right to pleasure yourself!
It's nothing to be ashamed of, Nick.
-a-a> what disgustingly creepy inhumane fuck you are
Hope this helps.
-a-a> #god
nice how you just ignored how capitalism went and chained 7/8 people
of the entire planet to their respective nation states in service of
the only principle they actually care about: private property
you are retarded
You snipped this out:
The United Nations explicitly states that humans have rights from
birth in Article 1 of the Universal Declaration of Human Rights, which
proclaims that "all human beings are born free and equal in dignity
and rights".
well we've clearly failed to achieve that since most humans are chained
to their nation states and lack equal freedom of movement
fuck you you dumb boomer cuntYou snipped something out and cross-posted. Let me repeat:
We studied this in school: The French Revolution
The revolution ended noble land monopolies and peasant dues in 1789..
Established private property as a basic human right. How?
By abolishing feudal land rights and establishing legal protections
for individual ownership in the Declaration of the Rights of Man.
see what i mean? ur still defending property instead of addressing the
fact 7/8 on this planet are not free enough to simply walk around freely
-a-a> get rebirthed into a 3rd world shithole
-a-a>
-a-a> #god
On 8/10/2026 11:37 AM, dart200 wrote:
On 8/10/26 10:37 AM, Dude wrote:When the United Nations General Assembly adopted the Universal
On 8/9/2026 3:39 PM, dart200 wrote:
On 8/9/26 3:21 PM, Dude wrote:You are incorrect. 99.9% of all people on earth live in nation states.
On 8/9/2026 10:34 AM, dart200 wrote:
On 8/9/26 8:45 AM, Wilson wrote:You are not responsible for anyone jerking themselves off, or not.
At its core, free enterprise and a market economy can be reduced >>>>>>> in many ways to an economic ideology centered around private
property. It gives me extraordinary joy to see how our founders, >>>>>>> in writing the Declaration of Independence, declared that all men >>>>>>> were "endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable rights, >>>>>>> among them are life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness."
Here, the founders took the natural rights John Locke wrote about >>>>>>> in his Second Treatise of Government in 1690 rCo "lives, liberties, >>>>>>> and estates, which I call by the general name, property," and
broadened it.-a They presupposed that property was necessary for >>>>>>> liberty and that the greater aspiration behind private property >>>>>>> was "pursuit of happiness" (what we call "human flourishing" in >>>>>>> my tradition).
Just weeks before the Declaration of Independence was written,
George Mason had codified in the Virginia Declaration of Rights >>>>>>> that "the enjoyment of life and liberty, with the means of
acquiring and possessing property" were predicates to "pursuing >>>>>>> and obtaining happiness and safety."-a The founding fathers were >>>>>>> not waxing and waning philosophically rCo well, they were not / >>>>>>> only/ doing that rCo they were expressing the lived experience of >>>>>>> the settlers in the new world.
The lived experience that served as the bedrock of our nation was >>>>>>> one of private ownership driving incentives, of communal
ownership discouraging productive work, and one where resentment >>>>>>> was inevitable when rewards were equal, but effort was not.
Communal ownership of property had failed in practice because it >>>>>>> was first a failed theory.
Private property is a natural right that flows from our ability >>>>>>> to earn, hold, possess, retain, and manage the fruits of our own >>>>>>> labor. It produces responsibility, stewardship, and abundance
that align with human nature.
David L. Bahnsen
i love how capitalists love to jerk themselves off about freedom
and flourishing endlessly while ignoring the fact 7/8 are enslaved >>>>>> to a nation-state system that coercively interferes with basic
freedom of movement
You are responsible only for your own jerking off - hopefully at
home on your own time, maybe in the bathroom. Hopefully nobody is
forcing you to stoop to self abuse, but that happens in marriage,
especially just after giving birth. YMMV.
You have my sympathies. It's tough getting cut off! Remember, you
this world is a travesty of authoritarian control all you can do
is keep crying endlessly about private property, as violently
owning stuff is the _only_ principle you actually care about
have a human right to pleasure yourself!
It's nothing to be ashamed of, Nick.
-a-a> what disgustingly creepy inhumane fuck you are
Hope this helps.
-a-a> #god
nice how you just ignored how capitalism went and chained 7/8 people
of the entire planet to their respective nation states in service of
the only principle they actually care about: private property
you are retarded
You snipped this out:
The United Nations explicitly states that humans have rights from
birth in Article 1 of the Universal Declaration of Human Rights,
which proclaims that "all human beings are born free and equal in
dignity and rights".
well we've clearly failed to achieve that since most humans are
chained to their nation states and lack equal freedom of movement
Declaration of Human Rights, out of the 58 member states at the time, 48 voted in favor, none voted against, 8 abstained, and 2 were absent.
fuck you you dumb boomer cuntYou snipped something out and cross-posted. Let me repeat:
We studied this in school: The French Revolution
The revolution ended noble land monopolies and peasant dues in 1789..
Established private property as a basic human right. How?
By abolishing feudal land rights and establishing legal protections
for individual ownership in the Declaration of the Rights of Man.
see what i mean? ur still defending property instead of addressing the
fact 7/8 on this planet are not free enough to simply walk around freely
The 8 Abstaining Countries:
Saudi Arabia (objected to certain articles, such as freedom of religion
and the right to change one's religion, viewing them as contrary to
Islamic law)South Africa (abstained due to its apartheid system, which conflicted with the declaration's principles on racial equality)
Soviet Union
Belarus
Ukrainian
Czechoslovakia
Poland
-a-a> get rebirthed into a 3rd world shithole
-a-a>
-a-a> #god
On 8/10/26 9:26 AM, Wilson wrote:
On 8/10/2026 12:03 PM, Noah Sombrero wrote:
On Mon, 10 Aug 2026 11:43:59 -0400, Wilson <Wilson@nowhere.invalid>
wrote:
On 8/9/2026 6:12 PM, dart200 wrote:
On 8/9/26 11:28 AM, Wilson wrote:
On 8/9/2026 1:34 PM, dart200 wrote:
On 8/9/26 8:45 AM, Wilson wrote:
At its core, free enterprise and a market economy can be reduced in >>>>>>>> many ways to an economic ideology centered around private property. >>>>>>>> It gives me extraordinary joy to see how our founders, in writing >>>>>>>> the Declaration of Independence, declared that all men were
"endowed
by their Creator with certain unalienable rights, among them are >>>>>>>> life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness."
Here, the founders took the natural rights John Locke wrote
about in
his Second Treatise of Government in 1690 rCo "lives, liberties, and >>>>>>>> estates, which I call by the general name, property," and broadened >>>>>>>> it.-a They presupposed that property was necessary for liberty and >>>>>>>> that the greater aspiration behind private property was "pursuit of >>>>>>>> happiness" (what we call "human flourishing" in my tradition). >>>>>>>>
Just weeks before the Declaration of Independence was written, >>>>>>>> George Mason had codified in the Virginia Declaration of Rights >>>>>>>> that
"the enjoyment of life and liberty, with the means of acquiring and >>>>>>>> possessing property" were predicates to "pursuing and obtaining >>>>>>>> happiness and safety."-a The founding fathers were not waxing and >>>>>>>> waning philosophically rCo well, they were not /only/ doing that rCo >>>>>>>> they were expressing the lived experience of the settlers in the >>>>>>>> new
world.
The lived experience that served as the bedrock of our nation was >>>>>>>> one of private ownership driving incentives, of communal ownership >>>>>>>> discouraging productive work, and one where resentment was
inevitable when rewards were equal, but effort was not.-a Communal >>>>>>>> ownership of property had failed in practice because it was first a >>>>>>>> failed theory.
Private property is a natural right that flows from our ability to >>>>>>>> earn, hold, possess, retain, and manage the fruits of our own >>>>>>>> labor.
It produces responsibility, stewardship, and abundance that align >>>>>>>> with human nature.
David L. Bahnsen
i love how capitalists love to jerk themselves off about freedom and >>>>>>> flourishing endlessly while ignoring the fact 7/8 are enslaved to a >>>>>>> nation-state system that coercively interferes with basic freedom of >>>>>>> movement
this world is a travesty of authoritarian control all you can do is >>>>>>> keep crying endlessly about private property, as violently owning >>>>>>> stuff is the _only_ principle you actually care about
Self-defense is not the initiation of violence, and as it is oriented >>>>>> towards the protection of life and the thriving of the human person, >>>>>> it is a natural human right.
you are _not_ your property
Property as gained by the effort and work of a human being is
inherently a part of that person's life. As such, defense of that
property is also a human right.
even the person who first came up with that predicated that right to >>>>> mixing labor with land to claim property, on there being enough common >>>>> lands left for all to utilize...
which we've gone so far past that you want to keep 7/8 people on this >>>>> planet chained to the nation state they were born in without even the >>>>> permission to leave.
Anyone who attempts to take away one's property or other natural
rights is an enabler of tyranny, and therefore an enemy of life
and of
humanity.
I'm not keeping them in their home countries. They just can't all come >>>> here, that's all.
Ok, lets change the wording a little.
"you want to keep 7/8 people on this
planet chained to nation states where they can have no future, no hope
of improvement in their lives without even the permission to go
somewhere better."
No, I don't want to keep them "chained to nation states". As far as
I'm concerned they are free to go anywhere that's willing to accept them.
my god the endless stupidity of capitalist morons refusing to accept responsibility for the bullshit they preach...
which ofc is expected. a honest person cannot hold the positions of sheeplefried capitalists.
I'm not even that attached to the idea of nation-states and kind of
like the idea of free places that are outside of the nation-state.
In any case, no place is obligated to accept everyone that wants to go
there. The current citizens get a say in the matter.
you _are_ the fucking problem wilson. if the richest country on the
planet can't "afford" basic freedom of movement, then how in the fuck do
you expect others to follow???
ur pathetic "well-wishings" are meaningless platitudes compares to the subethical positions you hold, which are directly causal in chaining 7/8 people on the planet to the nation states of their birth, something they have _zero_ choice
Same undeserved condemnation.
Regardless, coming to the us is no longer the good deal that it once
was.-a Too many people like wilson have no empathy for them for one
thing, and are unwilling to let them even pull carrots or clean
toilets.
You keep bringing that up and seem strangely focused on getting some
wage-slaves to pick your veggies and clean your toilets.
On 8/10/26 2:36 PM, Dude wrote:
On 8/10/2026 11:37 AM, dart200 wrote:
On 8/10/26 10:37 AM, Dude wrote:When the United Nations General Assembly adopted the Universal
On 8/9/2026 3:39 PM, dart200 wrote:
On 8/9/26 3:21 PM, Dude wrote:You are incorrect. 99.9% of all people on earth live in nation states.
On 8/9/2026 10:34 AM, dart200 wrote:
On 8/9/26 8:45 AM, Wilson wrote:You are not responsible for anyone jerking themselves off, or not. >>>>>>
At its core, free enterprise and a market economy can be reduced >>>>>>>> in many ways to an economic ideology centered around private
property. It gives me extraordinary joy to see how our founders, >>>>>>>> in writing the Declaration of Independence, declared that all >>>>>>>> men were "endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable
rights, among them are life, liberty, and the pursuit of
happiness."
Here, the founders took the natural rights John Locke wrote
about in his Second Treatise of Government in 1690 rCo "lives, >>>>>>>> liberties, and estates, which I call by the general name,
property," and broadened it.-a They presupposed that property was >>>>>>>> necessary for liberty and that the greater aspiration behind
private property was "pursuit of happiness" (what we call "human >>>>>>>> flourishing" in my tradition).
Just weeks before the Declaration of Independence was written, >>>>>>>> George Mason had codified in the Virginia Declaration of Rights >>>>>>>> that "the enjoyment of life and liberty, with the means of
acquiring and possessing property" were predicates to "pursuing >>>>>>>> and obtaining happiness and safety."-a The founding fathers were >>>>>>>> not waxing and waning philosophically rCo well, they were not / >>>>>>>> only/ doing that rCo they were expressing the lived experience of >>>>>>>> the settlers in the new world.
The lived experience that served as the bedrock of our nation >>>>>>>> was one of private ownership driving incentives, of communal
ownership discouraging productive work, and one where resentment >>>>>>>> was inevitable when rewards were equal, but effort was not.
Communal ownership of property had failed in practice because it >>>>>>>> was first a failed theory.
Private property is a natural right that flows from our ability >>>>>>>> to earn, hold, possess, retain, and manage the fruits of our own >>>>>>>> labor. It produces responsibility, stewardship, and abundance >>>>>>>> that align with human nature.
David L. Bahnsen
i love how capitalists love to jerk themselves off about freedom >>>>>>> and flourishing endlessly while ignoring the fact 7/8 are
enslaved to a nation-state system that coercively interferes with >>>>>>> basic freedom of movement
You are responsible only for your own jerking off - hopefully at
home on your own time, maybe in the bathroom. Hopefully nobody is >>>>>> forcing you to stoop to self abuse, but that happens in marriage, >>>>>> especially just after giving birth. YMMV.
You have my sympathies. It's tough getting cut off! Remember, you >>>>>> have a human right to pleasure yourself!
this world is a travesty of authoritarian control all you can do >>>>>>> is keep crying endlessly about private property, as violently
owning stuff is the _only_ principle you actually care about
It's nothing to be ashamed of, Nick.
-a-a> what disgustingly creepy inhumane fuck you are
Hope this helps.
-a-a> #god
nice how you just ignored how capitalism went and chained 7/8
people of the entire planet to their respective nation states in
service of the only principle they actually care about: private
property
you are retarded
You snipped this out:
The United Nations explicitly states that humans have rights from
birth in Article 1 of the Universal Declaration of Human Rights,
which proclaims that "all human beings are born free and equal in
dignity and rights".
well we've clearly failed to achieve that since most humans are
chained to their nation states and lack equal freedom of movement
Declaration of Human Rights, out of the 58 member states at the time,
48 voted in favor, none voted against, 8 abstained, and 2 were absent.
fuck you you dumb boomer cuntYou snipped something out and cross-posted. Let me repeat:
We studied this in school: The French Revolution
The revolution ended noble land monopolies and peasant dues in
1789.. Established private property as a basic human right. How?
By abolishing feudal land rights and establishing legal protections
for individual ownership in the Declaration of the Rights of Man.
see what i mean? ur still defending property instead of addressing
the fact 7/8 on this planet are not free enough to simply walk around
freely
The 8 Abstaining Countries:
Saudi Arabia (objected to certain articles, such as freedom of
religion and the right to change one's religion, viewing them as
contrary to Islamic law)South Africa (abstained due to its apartheid
system, which conflicted with the declaration's principles on racial
equality)
Soviet Union
Belarus
Ukrainian
Czechoslovakia
Poland
is this supposed to somehow defend the rest of world which hasn't
managed basic freedom or movement??? idgaf what anyone signed dud,
actions speak louder than signatures
#god
On 8/10/2026 1:06 PM, dart200 wrote:
On 8/10/26 9:26 AM, Wilson wrote:We studied...
On 8/10/2026 12:03 PM, Noah Sombrero wrote:
On Mon, 10 Aug 2026 11:43:59 -0400, Wilson <Wilson@nowhere.invalid>
wrote:
On 8/9/2026 6:12 PM, dart200 wrote:
On 8/9/26 11:28 AM, Wilson wrote:
On 8/9/2026 1:34 PM, dart200 wrote:
On 8/9/26 8:45 AM, Wilson wrote:
At its core, free enterprise and a market economy can be
reduced in
many ways to an economic ideology centered around private
property.
It gives me extraordinary joy to see how our founders, in writing >>>>>>>>> the Declaration of Independence, declared that all men were >>>>>>>>> "endowed
by their Creator with certain unalienable rights, among them are >>>>>>>>> life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness."
Here, the founders took the natural rights John Locke wrote >>>>>>>>> about in
his Second Treatise of Government in 1690 rCo "lives, liberties, and >>>>>>>>> estates, which I call by the general name, property," and
broadened
it.-a They presupposed that property was necessary for liberty and >>>>>>>>> that the greater aspiration behind private property was
"pursuit of
happiness" (what we call "human flourishing" in my tradition). >>>>>>>>>
Just weeks before the Declaration of Independence was written, >>>>>>>>> George Mason had codified in the Virginia Declaration of Rights >>>>>>>>> that
"the enjoyment of life and liberty, with the means of acquiring >>>>>>>>> and
possessing property" were predicates to "pursuing and obtaining >>>>>>>>> happiness and safety."-a The founding fathers were not waxing and >>>>>>>>> waning philosophically rCo well, they were not /only/ doing that rCo >>>>>>>>> they were expressing the lived experience of the settlers in >>>>>>>>> the new
world.
The lived experience that served as the bedrock of our nation was >>>>>>>>> one of private ownership driving incentives, of communal ownership >>>>>>>>> discouraging productive work, and one where resentment was
inevitable when rewards were equal, but effort was not.-a Communal >>>>>>>>> ownership of property had failed in practice because it was >>>>>>>>> first a
failed theory.
Private property is a natural right that flows from our ability to >>>>>>>>> earn, hold, possess, retain, and manage the fruits of our own >>>>>>>>> labor.
It produces responsibility, stewardship, and abundance that align >>>>>>>>> with human nature.
David L. Bahnsen
i love how capitalists love to jerk themselves off about freedom >>>>>>>> and
flourishing endlessly while ignoring the fact 7/8 are enslaved to a >>>>>>>> nation-state system that coercively interferes with basic
freedom of
movement
this world is a travesty of authoritarian control all you can do is >>>>>>>> keep crying endlessly about private property, as violently owning >>>>>>>> stuff is the _only_ principle you actually care about
Self-defense is not the initiation of violence, and as it is
oriented
towards the protection of life and the thriving of the human person, >>>>>>> it is a natural human right.
you are _not_ your property
Property as gained by the effort and work of a human being is
inherently a part of that person's life. As such, defense of that >>>>>>> property is also a human right.
even the person who first came up with that predicated that right to >>>>>> mixing labor with land to claim property, on there being enough
common
lands left for all to utilize...
which we've gone so far past that you want to keep 7/8 people on this >>>>>> planet chained to the nation state they were born in without even the >>>>>> permission to leave.
Anyone who attempts to take away one's property or other natural >>>>>>> rights is an enabler of tyranny, and therefore an enemy of life >>>>>>> and of
humanity.
I'm not keeping them in their home countries. They just can't all come >>>>> here, that's all.
Ok, lets change the wording a little.
"you want to keep 7/8 people on this
planet chained to nation states where they can have no future, no hope >>>> of improvement in their lives without even the permission to go
somewhere better."
No, I don't want to keep them "chained to nation states". As far as
I'm concerned they are free to go anywhere that's willing to accept
them.
my god the endless stupidity of capitalist morons refusing to accept
responsibility for the bullshit they preach...
On 8/10/2026 2:41 PM, dart200 wrote:
On 8/10/26 2:36 PM, Dude wrote:Like I said:
On 8/10/2026 11:37 AM, dart200 wrote:
On 8/10/26 10:37 AM, Dude wrote:When the United Nations General Assembly adopted the Universal
On 8/9/2026 3:39 PM, dart200 wrote:you are retarded
On 8/9/26 3:21 PM, Dude wrote:You are incorrect. 99.9% of all people on earth live in nation states. >>>>
On 8/9/2026 10:34 AM, dart200 wrote:
On 8/9/26 8:45 AM, Wilson wrote:You are not responsible for anyone jerking themselves off, or not. >>>>>>>
At its core, free enterprise and a market economy can be
reduced in many ways to an economic ideology centered around >>>>>>>>> private property. It gives me extraordinary joy to see how our >>>>>>>>> founders, in writing the Declaration of Independence, declared >>>>>>>>> that all men were "endowed by their Creator with certain
unalienable rights, among them are life, liberty, and the
pursuit of happiness."
Here, the founders took the natural rights John Locke wrote >>>>>>>>> about in his Second Treatise of Government in 1690 rCo "lives, >>>>>>>>> liberties, and estates, which I call by the general name,
property," and broadened it.-a They presupposed that property >>>>>>>>> was necessary for liberty and that the greater aspiration
behind private property was "pursuit of happiness" (what we >>>>>>>>> call "human flourishing" in my tradition).
Just weeks before the Declaration of Independence was written, >>>>>>>>> George Mason had codified in the Virginia Declaration of Rights >>>>>>>>> that "the enjoyment of life and liberty, with the means of
acquiring and possessing property" were predicates to "pursuing >>>>>>>>> and obtaining happiness and safety."-a The founding fathers were >>>>>>>>> not waxing and waning philosophically rCo well, they were not / >>>>>>>>> only/ doing that rCo they were expressing the lived experience of >>>>>>>>> the settlers in the new world.
The lived experience that served as the bedrock of our nation >>>>>>>>> was one of private ownership driving incentives, of communal >>>>>>>>> ownership discouraging productive work, and one where
resentment was inevitable when rewards were equal, but effort >>>>>>>>> was not. Communal ownership of property had failed in practice >>>>>>>>> because it was first a failed theory.
Private property is a natural right that flows from our ability >>>>>>>>> to earn, hold, possess, retain, and manage the fruits of our >>>>>>>>> own labor. It produces responsibility, stewardship, and
abundance that align with human nature.
David L. Bahnsen
i love how capitalists love to jerk themselves off about freedom >>>>>>>> and flourishing endlessly while ignoring the fact 7/8 are
enslaved to a nation-state system that coercively interferes
with basic freedom of movement
You are responsible only for your own jerking off - hopefully at >>>>>>> home on your own time, maybe in the bathroom. Hopefully nobody is >>>>>>> forcing you to stoop to self abuse, but that happens in marriage, >>>>>>> especially just after giving birth. YMMV.
You have my sympathies. It's tough getting cut off! Remember, you >>>>>>> have a human right to pleasure yourself!
this world is a travesty of authoritarian control all you can do >>>>>>>> is keep crying endlessly about private property, as violently >>>>>>>> owning stuff is the _only_ principle you actually care about
It's nothing to be ashamed of, Nick.
-a-a> what disgustingly creepy inhumane fuck you are
Hope this helps.
-a-a> #god
nice how you just ignored how capitalism went and chained 7/8
people of the entire planet to their respective nation states in
service of the only principle they actually care about: private
property
You snipped this out:
The United Nations explicitly states that humans have rights from
birth in Article 1 of the Universal Declaration of Human Rights,
which proclaims that "all human beings are born free and equal in
dignity and rights".
well we've clearly failed to achieve that since most humans are
chained to their nation states and lack equal freedom of movement
Declaration of Human Rights, out of the 58 member states at the time,
48 voted in favor, none voted against, 8 abstained, and 2 were absent.
fuck you you dumb boomer cuntYou snipped something out and cross-posted. Let me repeat:
We studied this in school: The French Revolution
The revolution ended noble land monopolies and peasant dues in
1789.. Established private property as a basic human right. How?
By abolishing feudal land rights and establishing legal protections >>>>> for individual ownership in the Declaration of the Rights of Man.
see what i mean? ur still defending property instead of addressing
the fact 7/8 on this planet are not free enough to simply walk
around freely
The 8 Abstaining Countries:
Saudi Arabia (objected to certain articles, such as freedom of
religion and the right to change one's religion, viewing them as
contrary to Islamic law)South Africa (abstained due to its apartheid
system, which conflicted with the declaration's principles on racial
equality)
Soviet Union
Belarus
Ukrainian
Czechoslovakia
Poland
is this supposed to somehow defend the rest of world which hasn't
managed basic freedom or movement??? idgaf what anyone signed dud,
On 8/10/2026 1:06 PM, dart200 wrote:
you _are_ the fucking problem wilson. if the richest country on theSo, Wilson is your problem. You can't have open borders in a welfare state.
planet can't "afford" basic freedom of movement, then how in the fuck
do you expect others to follow???
On 8/10/26 9:26 AM, Wilson wrote:
On 8/10/2026 12:03 PM, Noah Sombrero wrote:
On Mon, 10 Aug 2026 11:43:59 -0400, Wilson <Wilson@nowhere.invalid>
wrote:
On 8/9/2026 6:12 PM, dart200 wrote:
On 8/9/26 11:28 AM, Wilson wrote:
On 8/9/2026 1:34 PM, dart200 wrote:
On 8/9/26 8:45 AM, Wilson wrote:
At its core, free enterprise and a market economy can be reduced in >>>>>>>> many ways to an economic ideology centered around private property. >>>>>>>> It gives me extraordinary joy to see how our founders, in writing >>>>>>>> the Declaration of Independence, declared that all men were
"endowed
by their Creator with certain unalienable rights, among them are >>>>>>>> life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness."
Here, the founders took the natural rights John Locke wrote
about in
his Second Treatise of Government in 1690 rCo "lives, liberties, and >>>>>>>> estates, which I call by the general name, property," and broadened >>>>>>>> it.-a They presupposed that property was necessary for liberty and >>>>>>>> that the greater aspiration behind private property was "pursuit of >>>>>>>> happiness" (what we call "human flourishing" in my tradition). >>>>>>>>
Just weeks before the Declaration of Independence was written, >>>>>>>> George Mason had codified in the Virginia Declaration of Rights >>>>>>>> that
"the enjoyment of life and liberty, with the means of acquiring and >>>>>>>> possessing property" were predicates to "pursuing and obtaining >>>>>>>> happiness and safety."-a The founding fathers were not waxing and >>>>>>>> waning philosophically rCo well, they were not /only/ doing that rCo >>>>>>>> they were expressing the lived experience of the settlers in the >>>>>>>> new
world.
The lived experience that served as the bedrock of our nation was >>>>>>>> one of private ownership driving incentives, of communal ownership >>>>>>>> discouraging productive work, and one where resentment was
inevitable when rewards were equal, but effort was not.-a Communal >>>>>>>> ownership of property had failed in practice because it was first a >>>>>>>> failed theory.
Private property is a natural right that flows from our ability to >>>>>>>> earn, hold, possess, retain, and manage the fruits of our own >>>>>>>> labor.
It produces responsibility, stewardship, and abundance that align >>>>>>>> with human nature.
David L. Bahnsen
i love how capitalists love to jerk themselves off about freedom and >>>>>>> flourishing endlessly while ignoring the fact 7/8 are enslaved to a >>>>>>> nation-state system that coercively interferes with basic freedom of >>>>>>> movement
this world is a travesty of authoritarian control all you can do is >>>>>>> keep crying endlessly about private property, as violently owning >>>>>>> stuff is the _only_ principle you actually care about
Self-defense is not the initiation of violence, and as it is oriented >>>>>> towards the protection of life and the thriving of the human person, >>>>>> it is a natural human right.
you are _not_ your property
Property as gained by the effort and work of a human being is
inherently a part of that person's life. As such, defense of that
property is also a human right.
even the person who first came up with that predicated that right to >>>>> mixing labor with land to claim property, on there being enough common >>>>> lands left for all to utilize...
which we've gone so far past that you want to keep 7/8 people on this >>>>> planet chained to the nation state they were born in without even the >>>>> permission to leave.
Anyone who attempts to take away one's property or other natural
rights is an enabler of tyranny, and therefore an enemy of life
and of
humanity.
I'm not keeping them in their home countries. They just can't all come >>>> here, that's all.
Ok, lets change the wording a little.
"you want to keep 7/8 people on this
planet chained to nation states where they can have no future, no hope
of improvement in their lives without even the permission to go
somewhere better."
No, I don't want to keep them "chained to nation states". As far as
I'm concerned they are free to go anywhere that's willing to accept them.
my god the endless stupidity of capitalist morons refusing to accept responsibility for the bullshit they preach...
which ofc is expected. a honest person cannot hold the positions of sheeplefried capitalists.
I'm not even that attached to the idea of nation-states and kind of
like the idea of free places that are outside of the nation-state.
In any case, no place is obligated to accept everyone that wants to go
there. The current citizens get a say in the matter.
you _are_ the fucking problem wilson. if the richest country on the
planet can't "afford" basic freedom of movement, then how in the fuck do
you expect others to follow???
ur pathetic "well-wishings" are meaningless platitudes compares to the subethical positions you hold, which are directly causal in chaining 7/8 people on the planet to the nation states of their birth, something they have _zero_ choice
On 8/10/2026 4:06 PM, dart200 wrote:
On 8/10/26 9:26 AM, Wilson wrote:
On 8/10/2026 12:03 PM, Noah Sombrero wrote:
On Mon, 10 Aug 2026 11:43:59 -0400, Wilson <Wilson@nowhere.invalid>
wrote:
On 8/9/2026 6:12 PM, dart200 wrote:
On 8/9/26 11:28 AM, Wilson wrote:
On 8/9/2026 1:34 PM, dart200 wrote:
On 8/9/26 8:45 AM, Wilson wrote:
At its core, free enterprise and a market economy can be
reduced in
many ways to an economic ideology centered around private
property.
It gives me extraordinary joy to see how our founders, in writing >>>>>>>>> the Declaration of Independence, declared that all men were >>>>>>>>> "endowed
by their Creator with certain unalienable rights, among them are >>>>>>>>> life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness."
Here, the founders took the natural rights John Locke wrote >>>>>>>>> about in
his Second Treatise of Government in 1690 rCo "lives, liberties, and >>>>>>>>> estates, which I call by the general name, property," and
broadened
it.-a They presupposed that property was necessary for liberty and >>>>>>>>> that the greater aspiration behind private property was
"pursuit of
happiness" (what we call "human flourishing" in my tradition). >>>>>>>>>
Just weeks before the Declaration of Independence was written, >>>>>>>>> George Mason had codified in the Virginia Declaration of Rights >>>>>>>>> that
"the enjoyment of life and liberty, with the means of acquiring >>>>>>>>> and
possessing property" were predicates to "pursuing and obtaining >>>>>>>>> happiness and safety."-a The founding fathers were not waxing and >>>>>>>>> waning philosophically rCo well, they were not /only/ doing that rCo >>>>>>>>> they were expressing the lived experience of the settlers in >>>>>>>>> the new
world.
The lived experience that served as the bedrock of our nation was >>>>>>>>> one of private ownership driving incentives, of communal ownership >>>>>>>>> discouraging productive work, and one where resentment was
inevitable when rewards were equal, but effort was not.-a Communal >>>>>>>>> ownership of property had failed in practice because it was >>>>>>>>> first a
failed theory.
Private property is a natural right that flows from our ability to >>>>>>>>> earn, hold, possess, retain, and manage the fruits of our own >>>>>>>>> labor.
It produces responsibility, stewardship, and abundance that align >>>>>>>>> with human nature.
David L. Bahnsen
i love how capitalists love to jerk themselves off about freedom >>>>>>>> and
flourishing endlessly while ignoring the fact 7/8 are enslaved to a >>>>>>>> nation-state system that coercively interferes with basic
freedom of
movement
this world is a travesty of authoritarian control all you can do is >>>>>>>> keep crying endlessly about private property, as violently owning >>>>>>>> stuff is the _only_ principle you actually care about
Self-defense is not the initiation of violence, and as it is
oriented
towards the protection of life and the thriving of the human person, >>>>>>> it is a natural human right.
you are _not_ your property
Property as gained by the effort and work of a human being is
inherently a part of that person's life. As such, defense of that >>>>>>> property is also a human right.
even the person who first came up with that predicated that right to >>>>>> mixing labor with land to claim property, on there being enough
common
lands left for all to utilize...
which we've gone so far past that you want to keep 7/8 people on this >>>>>> planet chained to the nation state they were born in without even the >>>>>> permission to leave.
Anyone who attempts to take away one's property or other natural >>>>>>> rights is an enabler of tyranny, and therefore an enemy of life >>>>>>> and of
humanity.
I'm not keeping them in their home countries. They just can't all come >>>>> here, that's all.
Ok, lets change the wording a little.
"you want to keep 7/8 people on this
planet chained to nation states where they can have no future, no hope >>>> of improvement in their lives without even the permission to go
somewhere better."
No, I don't want to keep them "chained to nation states". As far as
I'm concerned they are free to go anywhere that's willing to accept
them.
my god the endless stupidity of capitalist morons refusing to accept
responsibility for the bullshit they preach...
which ofc is expected. a honest person cannot hold the positions of
sheeplefried capitalists.
I'm not even that attached to the idea of nation-states and kind of
like the idea of free places that are outside of the nation-state.
In any case, no place is obligated to accept everyone that wants to
go there. The current citizens get a say in the matter.
you _are_ the fucking problem wilson. if the richest country on the
planet can't "afford" basic freedom of movement, then how in the fuck
do you expect others to follow???
ur pathetic "well-wishings" are meaningless platitudes compares to the
subethical positions you hold, which are directly causal in chaining
7/8 people on the planet to the nation states of their birth,
something they have _zero_ choice
Go get your consensus and then get back to me.
On 8/10/26 5:25 PM, Dude wrote:
On 8/10/2026 2:41 PM, dart200 wrote:
On 8/10/26 2:36 PM, Dude wrote:Like I said:
On 8/10/2026 11:37 AM, dart200 wrote:
On 8/10/26 10:37 AM, Dude wrote:When the United Nations General Assembly adopted the Universal
On 8/9/2026 3:39 PM, dart200 wrote:
On 8/9/26 3:21 PM, Dude wrote:You are incorrect. 99.9% of all people on earth live in nation
On 8/9/2026 10:34 AM, dart200 wrote:
On 8/9/26 8:45 AM, Wilson wrote:You are not responsible for anyone jerking themselves off, or not. >>>>>>>>
At its core, free enterprise and a market economy can be
reduced in many ways to an economic ideology centered around >>>>>>>>>> private property. It gives me extraordinary joy to see how our >>>>>>>>>> founders, in writing the Declaration of Independence, declared >>>>>>>>>> that all men were "endowed by their Creator with certain
unalienable rights, among them are life, liberty, and the >>>>>>>>>> pursuit of happiness."
Here, the founders took the natural rights John Locke wrote >>>>>>>>>> about in his Second Treatise of Government in 1690 rCo "lives, >>>>>>>>>> liberties, and estates, which I call by the general name, >>>>>>>>>> property," and broadened it.-a They presupposed that property >>>>>>>>>> was necessary for liberty and that the greater aspiration >>>>>>>>>> behind private property was "pursuit of happiness" (what we >>>>>>>>>> call "human flourishing" in my tradition).
Just weeks before the Declaration of Independence was written, >>>>>>>>>> George Mason had codified in the Virginia Declaration of
Rights that "the enjoyment of life and liberty, with the means >>>>>>>>>> of acquiring and possessing property" were predicates to
"pursuing and obtaining happiness and safety."-a The founding >>>>>>>>>> fathers were not waxing and waning philosophically rCo well, >>>>>>>>>> they were not / only/ doing that rCo they were expressing the >>>>>>>>>> lived experience of the settlers in the new world.
The lived experience that served as the bedrock of our nation >>>>>>>>>> was one of private ownership driving incentives, of communal >>>>>>>>>> ownership discouraging productive work, and one where
resentment was inevitable when rewards were equal, but effort >>>>>>>>>> was not. Communal ownership of property had failed in practice >>>>>>>>>> because it was first a failed theory.
Private property is a natural right that flows from our
ability to earn, hold, possess, retain, and manage the fruits >>>>>>>>>> of our own labor. It produces responsibility, stewardship, and >>>>>>>>>> abundance that align with human nature.
David L. Bahnsen
i love how capitalists love to jerk themselves off about
freedom and flourishing endlessly while ignoring the fact 7/8 >>>>>>>>> are enslaved to a nation-state system that coercively
interferes with basic freedom of movement
You are responsible only for your own jerking off - hopefully at >>>>>>>> home on your own time, maybe in the bathroom. Hopefully nobody >>>>>>>> is forcing you to stoop to self abuse, but that happens in
marriage, especially just after giving birth. YMMV.
You have my sympathies. It's tough getting cut off! Remember, >>>>>>>> you have a human right to pleasure yourself!
this world is a travesty of authoritarian control all you can >>>>>>>>> do is keep crying endlessly about private property, as
violently owning stuff is the _only_ principle you actually >>>>>>>>> care about
It's nothing to be ashamed of, Nick.
-a-a> what disgustingly creepy inhumane fuck you are
Hope this helps.
-a-a> #god
nice how you just ignored how capitalism went and chained 7/8
people of the entire planet to their respective nation states in >>>>>>> service of the only principle they actually care about: private >>>>>>> property
states.
you are retarded
You snipped this out:
The United Nations explicitly states that humans have rights from >>>>>> birth in Article 1 of the Universal Declaration of Human Rights,
which proclaims that "all human beings are born free and equal in >>>>>> dignity and rights".
well we've clearly failed to achieve that since most humans are
chained to their nation states and lack equal freedom of movement
Declaration of Human Rights, out of the 58 member states at the
time, 48 voted in favor, none voted against, 8 abstained, and 2 were
absent.
fuck you you dumb boomer cuntYou snipped something out and cross-posted. Let me repeat:
We studied this in school: The French Revolution
The revolution ended noble land monopolies and peasant dues in
1789.. Established private property as a basic human right. How?
By abolishing feudal land rights and establishing legal
protections for individual ownership in the Declaration of the
Rights of Man.
see what i mean? ur still defending property instead of addressing
the fact 7/8 on this planet are not free enough to simply walk
around freely
The 8 Abstaining Countries:
Saudi Arabia (objected to certain articles, such as freedom of
religion and the right to change one's religion, viewing them as
contrary to Islamic law)South Africa (abstained due to its apartheid
system, which conflicted with the declaration's principles on racial
equality)
Soviet Union
Belarus
Ukrainian
Czechoslovakia
Poland
is this supposed to somehow defend the rest of world which hasn't
managed basic freedom or movement??? idgaf what anyone signed dud,
ur an absolute fucking unrepentant sinner unworthy of the air you breath dud. find a grave and sit in it
On 8/10/26 5:20 PM, Dude wrote:
On 8/10/2026 1:06 PM, dart200 wrote:
On 8/10/26 9:26 AM, Wilson wrote:We studied...
On 8/10/2026 12:03 PM, Noah Sombrero wrote:
On Mon, 10 Aug 2026 11:43:59 -0400, Wilson <Wilson@nowhere.invalid>
wrote:
On 8/9/2026 6:12 PM, dart200 wrote:
On 8/9/26 11:28 AM, Wilson wrote:
On 8/9/2026 1:34 PM, dart200 wrote:
On 8/9/26 8:45 AM, Wilson wrote:
At its core, free enterprise and a market economy can be
reduced in
many ways to an economic ideology centered around private >>>>>>>>>> property.
It gives me extraordinary joy to see how our founders, in writing >>>>>>>>>> the Declaration of Independence, declared that all men were >>>>>>>>>> "endowed
by their Creator with certain unalienable rights, among them are >>>>>>>>>> life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness."
Here, the founders took the natural rights John Locke wrote >>>>>>>>>> about in
his Second Treatise of Government in 1690 rCo "lives, liberties, >>>>>>>>>> and
estates, which I call by the general name, property," and >>>>>>>>>> broadened
it.-a They presupposed that property was necessary for liberty and >>>>>>>>>> that the greater aspiration behind private property was
"pursuit of
happiness" (what we call "human flourishing" in my tradition). >>>>>>>>>>
Just weeks before the Declaration of Independence was written, >>>>>>>>>> George Mason had codified in the Virginia Declaration of
Rights that
"the enjoyment of life and liberty, with the means of
acquiring and
possessing property" were predicates to "pursuing and obtaining >>>>>>>>>> happiness and safety."-a The founding fathers were not waxing and >>>>>>>>>> waning philosophically rCo well, they were not /only/ doing that rCo >>>>>>>>>> they were expressing the lived experience of the settlers in >>>>>>>>>> the new
world.
The lived experience that served as the bedrock of our nation was >>>>>>>>>> one of private ownership driving incentives, of communal
ownership
discouraging productive work, and one where resentment was >>>>>>>>>> inevitable when rewards were equal, but effort was not.-a Communal >>>>>>>>>> ownership of property had failed in practice because it was >>>>>>>>>> first a
failed theory.
Private property is a natural right that flows from our
ability to
earn, hold, possess, retain, and manage the fruits of our own >>>>>>>>>> labor.
It produces responsibility, stewardship, and abundance that align >>>>>>>>>> with human nature.
David L. Bahnsen
i love how capitalists love to jerk themselves off about
freedom and
flourishing endlessly while ignoring the fact 7/8 are enslaved >>>>>>>>> to a
nation-state system that coercively interferes with basic
freedom of
movement
this world is a travesty of authoritarian control all you can >>>>>>>>> do is
keep crying endlessly about private property, as violently owning >>>>>>>>> stuff is the _only_ principle you actually care about
Self-defense is not the initiation of violence, and as it is
oriented
towards the protection of life and the thriving of the human
person,
it is a natural human right.
you are _not_ your property
Property as gained by the effort and work of a human being is
inherently a part of that person's life. As such, defense of that >>>>>>>> property is also a human right.
even the person who first came up with that predicated that right to >>>>>>> mixing labor with land to claim property, on there being enough >>>>>>> common
lands left for all to utilize...
which we've gone so far past that you want to keep 7/8 people on >>>>>>> this
planet chained to the nation state they were born in without even >>>>>>> the
permission to leave.
Anyone who attempts to take away one's property or other natural >>>>>>>> rights is an enabler of tyranny, and therefore an enemy of life >>>>>>>> and of
humanity.
I'm not keeping them in their home countries. They just can't all >>>>>> come
here, that's all.
Ok, lets change the wording a little.
"you want to keep 7/8 people on this
planet chained to nation states where they can have no future, no hope >>>>> of improvement in their lives without even the permission to go
somewhere better."
No, I don't want to keep them "chained to nation states". As far as
I'm concerned they are free to go anywhere that's willing to accept
them.
my god the endless stupidity of capitalist morons refusing to accept
responsibility for the bullshit they preach...
i don't care what u studied you stupid fucking dip shit
the reality is 7/8 are enslaved to their nation states cause of ur
perverse obsession with violently owning stuff
go fuck yourself with a knife and die already
On 8/10/2026 9:55 PM, dart200 wrote:
On 8/10/26 5:20 PM, Dude wrote:We studied this in school: The French Revolution
On 8/10/2026 1:06 PM, dart200 wrote:
On 8/10/26 9:26 AM, Wilson wrote:We studied...
On 8/10/2026 12:03 PM, Noah Sombrero wrote:
On Mon, 10 Aug 2026 11:43:59 -0400, Wilson <Wilson@nowhere.invalid> >>>>>> wrote:
On 8/9/2026 6:12 PM, dart200 wrote:
On 8/9/26 11:28 AM, Wilson wrote:
On 8/9/2026 1:34 PM, dart200 wrote:
On 8/9/26 8:45 AM, Wilson wrote:
At its core, free enterprise and a market economy can be >>>>>>>>>>> reduced in
many ways to an economic ideology centered around private >>>>>>>>>>> property.
It gives me extraordinary joy to see how our founders, in >>>>>>>>>>> writing
the Declaration of Independence, declared that all men were >>>>>>>>>>> "endowed
by their Creator with certain unalienable rights, among them are >>>>>>>>>>> life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness."
Here, the founders took the natural rights John Locke wrote >>>>>>>>>>> about in
his Second Treatise of Government in 1690 rCo "lives,
liberties, and
estates, which I call by the general name, property," and >>>>>>>>>>> broadened
it.-a They presupposed that property was necessary for liberty >>>>>>>>>>> and
that the greater aspiration behind private property was >>>>>>>>>>> "pursuit of
happiness" (what we call "human flourishing" in my tradition). >>>>>>>>>>>
Just weeks before the Declaration of Independence was written, >>>>>>>>>>> George Mason had codified in the Virginia Declaration of >>>>>>>>>>> Rights that
"the enjoyment of life and liberty, with the means of
acquiring and
possessing property" were predicates to "pursuing and obtaining >>>>>>>>>>> happiness and safety."-a The founding fathers were not waxing and >>>>>>>>>>> waning philosophically rCo well, they were not /only/ doing that rCo
they were expressing the lived experience of the settlers in >>>>>>>>>>> the new
world.
The lived experience that served as the bedrock of our nation >>>>>>>>>>> was
one of private ownership driving incentives, of communal >>>>>>>>>>> ownership
discouraging productive work, and one where resentment was >>>>>>>>>>> inevitable when rewards were equal, but effort was not. >>>>>>>>>>> Communal
ownership of property had failed in practice because it was >>>>>>>>>>> first a
failed theory.
Private property is a natural right that flows from our >>>>>>>>>>> ability to
earn, hold, possess, retain, and manage the fruits of our own >>>>>>>>>>> labor.
It produces responsibility, stewardship, and abundance that >>>>>>>>>>> align
with human nature.
David L. Bahnsen
i love how capitalists love to jerk themselves off about
freedom and
flourishing endlessly while ignoring the fact 7/8 are enslaved >>>>>>>>>> to a
nation-state system that coercively interferes with basic >>>>>>>>>> freedom of
movement
this world is a travesty of authoritarian control all you can >>>>>>>>>> do is
keep crying endlessly about private property, as violently owning >>>>>>>>>> stuff is the _only_ principle you actually care about
Self-defense is not the initiation of violence, and as it is >>>>>>>>> oriented
towards the protection of life and the thriving of the human >>>>>>>>> person,
it is a natural human right.
you are _not_ your property
Property as gained by the effort and work of a human being is >>>>>>>>> inherently a part of that person's life. As such, defense of that >>>>>>>>> property is also a human right.
even the person who first came up with that predicated that
right to
mixing labor with land to claim property, on there being enough >>>>>>>> common
lands left for all to utilize...
which we've gone so far past that you want to keep 7/8 people on >>>>>>>> this
planet chained to the nation state they were born in without
even the
permission to leave.
Anyone who attempts to take away one's property or other natural >>>>>>>>> rights is an enabler of tyranny, and therefore an enemy of life >>>>>>>>> and of
humanity.
I'm not keeping them in their home countries. They just can't all >>>>>>> come
here, that's all.
Ok, lets change the wording a little.
"you want to keep 7/8 people on this
planet chained to nation states where they can have no future, no >>>>>> hope
of improvement in their lives without even the permission to go
somewhere better."
No, I don't want to keep them "chained to nation states". As far as >>>>> I'm concerned they are free to go anywhere that's willing to accept >>>>> them.
my god the endless stupidity of capitalist morons refusing to accept
responsibility for the bullshit they preach...
i don't care what u studied you stupid fucking dip shit
The revolution ended noble land monopolies and peasant dues in 1789.. Established private property as a basic human right. How?
the reality is 7/8 are enslaved to their nation states cause of urLike I said: 99.9% of all people live in nation states. There only a
perverse obsession with violently owning stuff
very tiny minority of people that are stateless.
So, let me say this:go fuck yourself with a knife and die already
By abolishing feudal land rights and establishing legal protections for individual ownership in the Declaration of the Rights of Man.
On 8/11/2026 10:35 AM, Wilson wrote:
On 8/10/2026 4:06 PM, dart200 wrote:Over 99.9% of all people live in nation states. It's up to them to take
On 8/10/26 9:26 AM, Wilson wrote:
On 8/10/2026 12:03 PM, Noah Sombrero wrote:
On Mon, 10 Aug 2026 11:43:59 -0400, Wilson <Wilson@nowhere.invalid>
wrote:
On 8/9/2026 6:12 PM, dart200 wrote:
On 8/9/26 11:28 AM, Wilson wrote:
On 8/9/2026 1:34 PM, dart200 wrote:
On 8/9/26 8:45 AM, Wilson wrote:
At its core, free enterprise and a market economy can be
reduced in
many ways to an economic ideology centered around private >>>>>>>>>> property.
It gives me extraordinary joy to see how our founders, in writing >>>>>>>>>> the Declaration of Independence, declared that all men were >>>>>>>>>> "endowed
by their Creator with certain unalienable rights, among them are >>>>>>>>>> life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness."
Here, the founders took the natural rights John Locke wrote >>>>>>>>>> about in
his Second Treatise of Government in 1690 rCo "lives, liberties, >>>>>>>>>> and
estates, which I call by the general name, property," and >>>>>>>>>> broadened
it.-a They presupposed that property was necessary for liberty and >>>>>>>>>> that the greater aspiration behind private property was
"pursuit of
happiness" (what we call "human flourishing" in my tradition). >>>>>>>>>>
Just weeks before the Declaration of Independence was written, >>>>>>>>>> George Mason had codified in the Virginia Declaration of
Rights that
"the enjoyment of life and liberty, with the means of
acquiring and
possessing property" were predicates to "pursuing and obtaining >>>>>>>>>> happiness and safety."-a The founding fathers were not waxing and >>>>>>>>>> waning philosophically rCo well, they were not /only/ doing that rCo >>>>>>>>>> they were expressing the lived experience of the settlers in >>>>>>>>>> the new
world.
The lived experience that served as the bedrock of our nation was >>>>>>>>>> one of private ownership driving incentives, of communal
ownership
discouraging productive work, and one where resentment was >>>>>>>>>> inevitable when rewards were equal, but effort was not.-a Communal >>>>>>>>>> ownership of property had failed in practice because it was >>>>>>>>>> first a
failed theory.
Private property is a natural right that flows from our
ability to
earn, hold, possess, retain, and manage the fruits of our own >>>>>>>>>> labor.
It produces responsibility, stewardship, and abundance that align >>>>>>>>>> with human nature.
David L. Bahnsen
i love how capitalists love to jerk themselves off about
freedom and
flourishing endlessly while ignoring the fact 7/8 are enslaved >>>>>>>>> to a
nation-state system that coercively interferes with basic
freedom of
movement
this world is a travesty of authoritarian control all you can >>>>>>>>> do is
keep crying endlessly about private property, as violently owning >>>>>>>>> stuff is the _only_ principle you actually care about
Self-defense is not the initiation of violence, and as it is
oriented
towards the protection of life and the thriving of the human
person,
it is a natural human right.
you are _not_ your property
Property as gained by the effort and work of a human being is
inherently a part of that person's life. As such, defense of that >>>>>>>> property is also a human right.
even the person who first came up with that predicated that right to >>>>>>> mixing labor with land to claim property, on there being enough >>>>>>> common
lands left for all to utilize...
which we've gone so far past that you want to keep 7/8 people on >>>>>>> this
planet chained to the nation state they were born in without even >>>>>>> the
permission to leave.
Anyone who attempts to take away one's property or other natural >>>>>>>> rights is an enabler of tyranny, and therefore an enemy of life >>>>>>>> and of
humanity.
I'm not keeping them in their home countries. They just can't all >>>>>> come
here, that's all.
Ok, lets change the wording a little.
"you want to keep 7/8 people on this
planet chained to nation states where they can have no future, no hope >>>>> of improvement in their lives without even the permission to go
somewhere better."
No, I don't want to keep them "chained to nation states". As far as
I'm concerned they are free to go anywhere that's willing to accept
them.
my god the endless stupidity of capitalist morons refusing to accept
responsibility for the bullshit they preach...
which ofc is expected. a honest person cannot hold the positions of
sheeplefried capitalists.
I'm not even that attached to the idea of nation-states and kind of
like the idea of free places that are outside of the nation-state.
In any case, no place is obligated to accept everyone that wants to
go there. The current citizens get a say in the matter.
you _are_ the fucking problem wilson. if the richest country on the
planet can't "afford" basic freedom of movement, then how in the fuck
do you expect others to follow???
ur pathetic "well-wishings" are meaningless platitudes compares to
the subethical positions you hold, which are directly causal in
chaining 7/8 people on the planet to the nation states of their
birth, something they have _zero_ choice
Go get your consensus and then get back to me.
care of their own, or not.
The US has no business interfering with any nation states and their
private property or internal affairs.
On 8/10/2026 4:06 PM, dart200 wrote:
On 8/10/26 9:26 AM, Wilson wrote:
On 8/10/2026 12:03 PM, Noah Sombrero wrote:
On Mon, 10 Aug 2026 11:43:59 -0400, Wilson <Wilson@nowhere.invalid>
wrote:
On 8/9/2026 6:12 PM, dart200 wrote:
On 8/9/26 11:28 AM, Wilson wrote:
On 8/9/2026 1:34 PM, dart200 wrote:
On 8/9/26 8:45 AM, Wilson wrote:
At its core, free enterprise and a market economy can be
reduced in
many ways to an economic ideology centered around private
property.
It gives me extraordinary joy to see how our founders, in writing >>>>>>>>> the Declaration of Independence, declared that all men were >>>>>>>>> "endowed
by their Creator with certain unalienable rights, among them are >>>>>>>>> life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness."
Here, the founders took the natural rights John Locke wrote >>>>>>>>> about in
his Second Treatise of Government in 1690 rCo "lives, liberties, and >>>>>>>>> estates, which I call by the general name, property," and
broadened
it.-a They presupposed that property was necessary for liberty and >>>>>>>>> that the greater aspiration behind private property was
"pursuit of
happiness" (what we call "human flourishing" in my tradition). >>>>>>>>>
Just weeks before the Declaration of Independence was written, >>>>>>>>> George Mason had codified in the Virginia Declaration of Rights >>>>>>>>> that
"the enjoyment of life and liberty, with the means of acquiring >>>>>>>>> and
possessing property" were predicates to "pursuing and obtaining >>>>>>>>> happiness and safety."-a The founding fathers were not waxing and >>>>>>>>> waning philosophically rCo well, they were not /only/ doing that rCo >>>>>>>>> they were expressing the lived experience of the settlers in >>>>>>>>> the new
world.
The lived experience that served as the bedrock of our nation was >>>>>>>>> one of private ownership driving incentives, of communal ownership >>>>>>>>> discouraging productive work, and one where resentment was
inevitable when rewards were equal, but effort was not.-a Communal >>>>>>>>> ownership of property had failed in practice because it was >>>>>>>>> first a
failed theory.
Private property is a natural right that flows from our ability to >>>>>>>>> earn, hold, possess, retain, and manage the fruits of our own >>>>>>>>> labor.
It produces responsibility, stewardship, and abundance that align >>>>>>>>> with human nature.
David L. Bahnsen
i love how capitalists love to jerk themselves off about freedom >>>>>>>> and
flourishing endlessly while ignoring the fact 7/8 are enslaved to a >>>>>>>> nation-state system that coercively interferes with basic
freedom of
movement
this world is a travesty of authoritarian control all you can do is >>>>>>>> keep crying endlessly about private property, as violently owning >>>>>>>> stuff is the _only_ principle you actually care about
Self-defense is not the initiation of violence, and as it is
oriented
towards the protection of life and the thriving of the human person, >>>>>>> it is a natural human right.
you are _not_ your property
Property as gained by the effort and work of a human being is
inherently a part of that person's life. As such, defense of that >>>>>>> property is also a human right.
even the person who first came up with that predicated that right to >>>>>> mixing labor with land to claim property, on there being enough
common
lands left for all to utilize...
which we've gone so far past that you want to keep 7/8 people on this >>>>>> planet chained to the nation state they were born in without even the >>>>>> permission to leave.
Anyone who attempts to take away one's property or other natural >>>>>>> rights is an enabler of tyranny, and therefore an enemy of life >>>>>>> and of
humanity.
I'm not keeping them in their home countries. They just can't all come >>>>> here, that's all.
Ok, lets change the wording a little.
"you want to keep 7/8 people on this
planet chained to nation states where they can have no future, no hope >>>> of improvement in their lives without even the permission to go
somewhere better."
No, I don't want to keep them "chained to nation states". As far as
I'm concerned they are free to go anywhere that's willing to accept
them.
my god the endless stupidity of capitalist morons refusing to accept
responsibility for the bullshit they preach...
which ofc is expected. a honest person cannot hold the positions of
sheeplefried capitalists.
I'm not even that attached to the idea of nation-states and kind of
like the idea of free places that are outside of the nation-state.
In any case, no place is obligated to accept everyone that wants to
go there. The current citizens get a say in the matter.
you _are_ the fucking problem wilson. if the richest country on the
planet can't "afford" basic freedom of movement, then how in the fuck
do you expect others to follow???
ur pathetic "well-wishings" are meaningless platitudes compares to the
subethical positions you hold, which are directly causal in chaining
7/8 people on the planet to the nation states of their birth,
something they have _zero_ choice
Go get your consensus and then get back to me.
On 8/10/2026 9:56 PM, dart200 wrote:
On 8/10/26 5:25 PM, Dude wrote:Like I said:
On 8/10/2026 2:41 PM, dart200 wrote:
On 8/10/26 2:36 PM, Dude wrote:Like I said:
On 8/10/2026 11:37 AM, dart200 wrote:
On 8/10/26 10:37 AM, Dude wrote:When the United Nations General Assembly adopted the Universal
On 8/9/2026 3:39 PM, dart200 wrote:
On 8/9/26 3:21 PM, Dude wrote:You are incorrect. 99.9% of all people on earth live in nation
On 8/9/2026 10:34 AM, dart200 wrote:
On 8/9/26 8:45 AM, Wilson wrote:You are not responsible for anyone jerking themselves off, or not. >>>>>>>>>
At its core, free enterprise and a market economy can be >>>>>>>>>>> reduced in many ways to an economic ideology centered around >>>>>>>>>>> private property. It gives me extraordinary joy to see how >>>>>>>>>>> our founders, in writing the Declaration of Independence, >>>>>>>>>>> declared that all men were "endowed by their Creator with >>>>>>>>>>> certain unalienable rights, among them are life, liberty, and >>>>>>>>>>> the pursuit of happiness."
Here, the founders took the natural rights John Locke wrote >>>>>>>>>>> about in his Second Treatise of Government in 1690 rCo "lives, >>>>>>>>>>> liberties, and estates, which I call by the general name, >>>>>>>>>>> property," and broadened it.-a They presupposed that property >>>>>>>>>>> was necessary for liberty and that the greater aspiration >>>>>>>>>>> behind private property was "pursuit of happiness" (what we >>>>>>>>>>> call "human flourishing" in my tradition).
Just weeks before the Declaration of Independence was
written, George Mason had codified in the Virginia
Declaration of Rights that "the enjoyment of life and
liberty, with the means of acquiring and possessing property" >>>>>>>>>>> were predicates to "pursuing and obtaining happiness and >>>>>>>>>>> safety."-a The founding fathers were not waxing and waning >>>>>>>>>>> philosophically rCo well, they were not / only/ doing that rCo >>>>>>>>>>> they were expressing the lived experience of the settlers in >>>>>>>>>>> the new world.
The lived experience that served as the bedrock of our nation >>>>>>>>>>> was one of private ownership driving incentives, of communal >>>>>>>>>>> ownership discouraging productive work, and one where
resentment was inevitable when rewards were equal, but effort >>>>>>>>>>> was not. Communal ownership of property had failed in
practice because it was first a failed theory.
Private property is a natural right that flows from our >>>>>>>>>>> ability to earn, hold, possess, retain, and manage the fruits >>>>>>>>>>> of our own labor. It produces responsibility, stewardship, >>>>>>>>>>> and abundance that align with human nature.
David L. Bahnsen
i love how capitalists love to jerk themselves off about
freedom and flourishing endlessly while ignoring the fact 7/8 >>>>>>>>>> are enslaved to a nation-state system that coercively
interferes with basic freedom of movement
You are responsible only for your own jerking off - hopefully >>>>>>>>> at home on your own time, maybe in the bathroom. Hopefully
nobody is forcing you to stoop to self abuse, but that happens >>>>>>>>> in marriage, especially just after giving birth. YMMV.
You have my sympathies. It's tough getting cut off! Remember, >>>>>>>>> you have a human right to pleasure yourself!
this world is a travesty of authoritarian control all you can >>>>>>>>>> do is keep crying endlessly about private property, as
violently owning stuff is the _only_ principle you actually >>>>>>>>>> care about
It's nothing to be ashamed of, Nick.
-a-a> what disgustingly creepy inhumane fuck you are
Hope this helps.
-a-a> #god
nice how you just ignored how capitalism went and chained 7/8 >>>>>>>> people of the entire planet to their respective nation states in >>>>>>>> service of the only principle they actually care about: private >>>>>>>> property
states.
you are retarded
You snipped this out:
The United Nations explicitly states that humans have rights from >>>>>>> birth in Article 1 of the Universal Declaration of Human Rights, >>>>>>> which proclaims that "all human beings are born free and equal in >>>>>>> dignity and rights".
well we've clearly failed to achieve that since most humans are
chained to their nation states and lack equal freedom of movement
Declaration of Human Rights, out of the 58 member states at the
time, 48 voted in favor, none voted against, 8 abstained, and 2
were absent.
fuck you you dumb boomer cuntYou snipped something out and cross-posted. Let me repeat:
We studied this in school: The French Revolution
The revolution ended noble land monopolies and peasant dues in
1789.. Established private property as a basic human right. How? >>>>>>>
By abolishing feudal land rights and establishing legal
protections for individual ownership in the Declaration of the
Rights of Man.
see what i mean? ur still defending property instead of addressing >>>>>> the fact 7/8 on this planet are not free enough to simply walk
around freely
The 8 Abstaining Countries:
Saudi Arabia (objected to certain articles, such as freedom of
religion and the right to change one's religion, viewing them as
contrary to Islamic law)South Africa (abstained due to its
apartheid system, which conflicted with the declaration's
principles on racial equality)
Soviet Union
Belarus
Ukrainian
Czechoslovakia
Poland
is this supposed to somehow defend the rest of world which hasn't
managed basic freedom or movement??? idgaf what anyone signed dud,
ur an absolute fucking unrepentant sinner unworthy of the air you
breath dud. find a grave and sit in it
On 8/11/26 11:57 AM, Dude wrote:
On 8/10/2026 9:55 PM, dart200 wrote:
On 8/10/26 5:20 PM, Dude wrote:We studied this in school: The French Revolution
On 8/10/2026 1:06 PM, dart200 wrote:
On 8/10/26 9:26 AM, Wilson wrote:We studied...
On 8/10/2026 12:03 PM, Noah Sombrero wrote:
On Mon, 10 Aug 2026 11:43:59 -0400, Wilson <Wilson@nowhere.invalid> >>>>>>> wrote:
On 8/9/2026 6:12 PM, dart200 wrote:
On 8/9/26 11:28 AM, Wilson wrote:
On 8/9/2026 1:34 PM, dart200 wrote:
On 8/9/26 8:45 AM, Wilson wrote:
At its core, free enterprise and a market economy can be >>>>>>>>>>>> reduced in
many ways to an economic ideology centered around private >>>>>>>>>>>> property.
It gives me extraordinary joy to see how our founders, in >>>>>>>>>>>> writing
the Declaration of Independence, declared that all men were >>>>>>>>>>>> "endowed
by their Creator with certain unalienable rights, among them >>>>>>>>>>>> are
life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness."
Here, the founders took the natural rights John Locke wrote >>>>>>>>>>>> about in
his Second Treatise of Government in 1690 rCo "lives, >>>>>>>>>>>> liberties, and
estates, which I call by the general name, property," and >>>>>>>>>>>> broadened
it.-a They presupposed that property was necessary for >>>>>>>>>>>> liberty and
that the greater aspiration behind private property was >>>>>>>>>>>> "pursuit of
happiness" (what we call "human flourishing" in my tradition). >>>>>>>>>>>>
Just weeks before the Declaration of Independence was written, >>>>>>>>>>>> George Mason had codified in the Virginia Declaration of >>>>>>>>>>>> Rights that
"the enjoyment of life and liberty, with the means of >>>>>>>>>>>> acquiring and
possessing property" were predicates to "pursuing and obtaining >>>>>>>>>>>> happiness and safety."-a The founding fathers were not waxing >>>>>>>>>>>> and
waning philosophically rCo well, they were not /only/ doing >>>>>>>>>>>> that rCo
they were expressing the lived experience of the settlers in >>>>>>>>>>>> the new
world.
The lived experience that served as the bedrock of our >>>>>>>>>>>> nation was
one of private ownership driving incentives, of communal >>>>>>>>>>>> ownership
discouraging productive work, and one where resentment was >>>>>>>>>>>> inevitable when rewards were equal, but effort was not. >>>>>>>>>>>> Communal
ownership of property had failed in practice because it was >>>>>>>>>>>> first a
failed theory.
Private property is a natural right that flows from our >>>>>>>>>>>> ability to
earn, hold, possess, retain, and manage the fruits of our >>>>>>>>>>>> own labor.
It produces responsibility, stewardship, and abundance that >>>>>>>>>>>> align
with human nature.
David L. Bahnsen
i love how capitalists love to jerk themselves off about >>>>>>>>>>> freedom and
flourishing endlessly while ignoring the fact 7/8 are
enslaved to a
nation-state system that coercively interferes with basic >>>>>>>>>>> freedom of
movement
this world is a travesty of authoritarian control all you can >>>>>>>>>>> do is
keep crying endlessly about private property, as violently >>>>>>>>>>> owning
stuff is the _only_ principle you actually care about
Self-defense is not the initiation of violence, and as it is >>>>>>>>>> oriented
towards the protection of life and the thriving of the human >>>>>>>>>> person,
it is a natural human right.
you are _not_ your property
Property as gained by the effort and work of a human being is >>>>>>>>>> inherently a part of that person's life. As such, defense of that >>>>>>>>>> property is also a human right.
even the person who first came up with that predicated that >>>>>>>>> right to
mixing labor with land to claim property, on there being enough >>>>>>>>> common
lands left for all to utilize...
which we've gone so far past that you want to keep 7/8 people >>>>>>>>> on this
planet chained to the nation state they were born in without >>>>>>>>> even the
permission to leave.
Anyone who attempts to take away one's property or other natural >>>>>>>>>> rights is an enabler of tyranny, and therefore an enemy of >>>>>>>>>> life and of
humanity.
I'm not keeping them in their home countries. They just can't >>>>>>>> all come
here, that's all.
Ok, lets change the wording a little.
"you want to keep 7/8 people on this
planet chained to nation states where they can have no future, no >>>>>>> hope
of improvement in their lives without even the permission to go
somewhere better."
No, I don't want to keep them "chained to nation states". As far
as I'm concerned they are free to go anywhere that's willing to
accept them.
my god the endless stupidity of capitalist morons refusing to
accept responsibility for the bullshit they preach...
i don't care what u studied you stupid fucking dip shit
The revolution ended noble land monopolies and peasant dues in 1789..
Established private property as a basic human right. How?
Like I said: 99.9% of all people live in nation states. There only a
the reality is 7/8 are enslaved to their nation states cause of ur
perverse obsession with violently owning stuff
very tiny minority of people that are stateless.
So, let me say this:go fuck yourself with a knife and die already
By abolishing feudal land rights and establishing legal protections
for individual ownership in the Declaration of the Rights of Man.
go fuck yourself with a knife and die already dud
On 8/11/26 11:49 AM, Dude wrote:
On 8/11/2026 10:35 AM, Wilson wrote:
On 8/10/2026 4:06 PM, dart200 wrote:Over 99.9% of all people live in nation states. It's up to them to
On 8/10/26 9:26 AM, Wilson wrote:
On 8/10/2026 12:03 PM, Noah Sombrero wrote:
On Mon, 10 Aug 2026 11:43:59 -0400, Wilson <Wilson@nowhere.invalid> >>>>>> wrote:
On 8/9/2026 6:12 PM, dart200 wrote:
On 8/9/26 11:28 AM, Wilson wrote:
On 8/9/2026 1:34 PM, dart200 wrote:
On 8/9/26 8:45 AM, Wilson wrote:
At its core, free enterprise and a market economy can be >>>>>>>>>>> reduced in
many ways to an economic ideology centered around private >>>>>>>>>>> property.
It gives me extraordinary joy to see how our founders, in >>>>>>>>>>> writing
the Declaration of Independence, declared that all men were >>>>>>>>>>> "endowed
by their Creator with certain unalienable rights, among them are >>>>>>>>>>> life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness."
Here, the founders took the natural rights John Locke wrote >>>>>>>>>>> about in
his Second Treatise of Government in 1690 rCo "lives,
liberties, and
estates, which I call by the general name, property," and >>>>>>>>>>> broadened
it.-a They presupposed that property was necessary for liberty >>>>>>>>>>> and
that the greater aspiration behind private property was >>>>>>>>>>> "pursuit of
happiness" (what we call "human flourishing" in my tradition). >>>>>>>>>>>
Just weeks before the Declaration of Independence was written, >>>>>>>>>>> George Mason had codified in the Virginia Declaration of >>>>>>>>>>> Rights that
"the enjoyment of life and liberty, with the means of
acquiring and
possessing property" were predicates to "pursuing and obtaining >>>>>>>>>>> happiness and safety."-a The founding fathers were not waxing and >>>>>>>>>>> waning philosophically rCo well, they were not /only/ doing that rCo
they were expressing the lived experience of the settlers in >>>>>>>>>>> the new
world.
The lived experience that served as the bedrock of our nation >>>>>>>>>>> was
one of private ownership driving incentives, of communal >>>>>>>>>>> ownership
discouraging productive work, and one where resentment was >>>>>>>>>>> inevitable when rewards were equal, but effort was not. >>>>>>>>>>> Communal
ownership of property had failed in practice because it was >>>>>>>>>>> first a
failed theory.
Private property is a natural right that flows from our >>>>>>>>>>> ability to
earn, hold, possess, retain, and manage the fruits of our own >>>>>>>>>>> labor.
It produces responsibility, stewardship, and abundance that >>>>>>>>>>> align
with human nature.
David L. Bahnsen
i love how capitalists love to jerk themselves off about
freedom and
flourishing endlessly while ignoring the fact 7/8 are enslaved >>>>>>>>>> to a
nation-state system that coercively interferes with basic >>>>>>>>>> freedom of
movement
this world is a travesty of authoritarian control all you can >>>>>>>>>> do is
keep crying endlessly about private property, as violently owning >>>>>>>>>> stuff is the _only_ principle you actually care about
Self-defense is not the initiation of violence, and as it is >>>>>>>>> oriented
towards the protection of life and the thriving of the human >>>>>>>>> person,
it is a natural human right.
you are _not_ your property
Property as gained by the effort and work of a human being is >>>>>>>>> inherently a part of that person's life. As such, defense of that >>>>>>>>> property is also a human right.
even the person who first came up with that predicated that
right to
mixing labor with land to claim property, on there being enough >>>>>>>> common
lands left for all to utilize...
which we've gone so far past that you want to keep 7/8 people on >>>>>>>> this
planet chained to the nation state they were born in without
even the
permission to leave.
Anyone who attempts to take away one's property or other natural >>>>>>>>> rights is an enabler of tyranny, and therefore an enemy of life >>>>>>>>> and of
humanity.
I'm not keeping them in their home countries. They just can't all >>>>>>> come
here, that's all.
Ok, lets change the wording a little.
"you want to keep 7/8 people on this
planet chained to nation states where they can have no future, no >>>>>> hope
of improvement in their lives without even the permission to go
somewhere better."
No, I don't want to keep them "chained to nation states". As far as >>>>> I'm concerned they are free to go anywhere that's willing to accept >>>>> them.
my god the endless stupidity of capitalist morons refusing to accept
responsibility for the bullshit they preach...
which ofc is expected. a honest person cannot hold the positions of
sheeplefried capitalists.
I'm not even that attached to the idea of nation-states and kind of >>>>> like the idea of free places that are outside of the nation-state.
In any case, no place is obligated to accept everyone that wants to >>>>> go there. The current citizens get a say in the matter.
you _are_ the fucking problem wilson. if the richest country on the
planet can't "afford" basic freedom of movement, then how in the
fuck do you expect others to follow???
ur pathetic "well-wishings" are meaningless platitudes compares to
the subethical positions you hold, which are directly causal in
chaining 7/8 people on the planet to the nation states of their
birth, something they have _zero_ choice
Go get your consensus and then get back to me.
take care of their own, or not.
The US has no business interfering with any nation states and their
private property or internal affairs.
the US spent most a century interfering with internal affairs to ensure private property stands as a global norm, no matter the cost. it's the _only_ thing u fucking braindead apes care about
On 8/11/26 10:35 AM, Wilson wrote:
On 8/10/2026 4:06 PM, dart200 wrote:
On 8/10/26 9:26 AM, Wilson wrote:
On 8/10/2026 12:03 PM, Noah Sombrero wrote:
On Mon, 10 Aug 2026 11:43:59 -0400, Wilson <Wilson@nowhere.invalid>
wrote:
On 8/9/2026 6:12 PM, dart200 wrote:
On 8/9/26 11:28 AM, Wilson wrote:
On 8/9/2026 1:34 PM, dart200 wrote:
On 8/9/26 8:45 AM, Wilson wrote:
At its core, free enterprise and a market economy can be
reduced in
many ways to an economic ideology centered around private >>>>>>>>>> property.
It gives me extraordinary joy to see how our founders, in writing >>>>>>>>>> the Declaration of Independence, declared that all men were >>>>>>>>>> "endowed
by their Creator with certain unalienable rights, among them are >>>>>>>>>> life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness."
Here, the founders took the natural rights John Locke wrote >>>>>>>>>> about in
his Second Treatise of Government in 1690 rCo "lives, liberties, >>>>>>>>>> and
estates, which I call by the general name, property," and >>>>>>>>>> broadened
it.-a They presupposed that property was necessary for liberty and >>>>>>>>>> that the greater aspiration behind private property was
"pursuit of
happiness" (what we call "human flourishing" in my tradition). >>>>>>>>>>
Just weeks before the Declaration of Independence was written, >>>>>>>>>> George Mason had codified in the Virginia Declaration of
Rights that
"the enjoyment of life and liberty, with the means of
acquiring and
possessing property" were predicates to "pursuing and obtaining >>>>>>>>>> happiness and safety."-a The founding fathers were not waxing and >>>>>>>>>> waning philosophically rCo well, they were not /only/ doing that rCo >>>>>>>>>> they were expressing the lived experience of the settlers in >>>>>>>>>> the new
world.
The lived experience that served as the bedrock of our nation was >>>>>>>>>> one of private ownership driving incentives, of communal
ownership
discouraging productive work, and one where resentment was >>>>>>>>>> inevitable when rewards were equal, but effort was not.-a Communal >>>>>>>>>> ownership of property had failed in practice because it was >>>>>>>>>> first a
failed theory.
Private property is a natural right that flows from our
ability to
earn, hold, possess, retain, and manage the fruits of our own >>>>>>>>>> labor.
It produces responsibility, stewardship, and abundance that align >>>>>>>>>> with human nature.
David L. Bahnsen
i love how capitalists love to jerk themselves off about
freedom and
flourishing endlessly while ignoring the fact 7/8 are enslaved >>>>>>>>> to a
nation-state system that coercively interferes with basic
freedom of
movement
this world is a travesty of authoritarian control all you can >>>>>>>>> do is
keep crying endlessly about private property, as violently owning >>>>>>>>> stuff is the _only_ principle you actually care about
Self-defense is not the initiation of violence, and as it is
oriented
towards the protection of life and the thriving of the human
person,
it is a natural human right.
you are _not_ your property
Property as gained by the effort and work of a human being is
inherently a part of that person's life. As such, defense of that >>>>>>>> property is also a human right.
even the person who first came up with that predicated that right to >>>>>>> mixing labor with land to claim property, on there being enough >>>>>>> common
lands left for all to utilize...
which we've gone so far past that you want to keep 7/8 people on >>>>>>> this
planet chained to the nation state they were born in without even >>>>>>> the
permission to leave.
Anyone who attempts to take away one's property or other natural >>>>>>>> rights is an enabler of tyranny, and therefore an enemy of life >>>>>>>> and of
humanity.
I'm not keeping them in their home countries. They just can't all >>>>>> come
here, that's all.
Ok, lets change the wording a little.
"you want to keep 7/8 people on this
planet chained to nation states where they can have no future, no hope >>>>> of improvement in their lives without even the permission to go
somewhere better."
No, I don't want to keep them "chained to nation states". As far as
I'm concerned they are free to go anywhere that's willing to accept
them.
my god the endless stupidity of capitalist morons refusing to accept
responsibility for the bullshit they preach...
which ofc is expected. a honest person cannot hold the positions of
sheeplefried capitalists.
I'm not even that attached to the idea of nation-states and kind of
like the idea of free places that are outside of the nation-state.
In any case, no place is obligated to accept everyone that wants to
go there. The current citizens get a say in the matter.
you _are_ the fucking problem wilson. if the richest country on the
planet can't "afford" basic freedom of movement, then how in the fuck
do you expect others to follow???
ur pathetic "well-wishings" are meaningless platitudes compares to
the subethical positions you hold, which are directly causal in
chaining 7/8 people on the planet to the nation states of their
birth, something they have _zero_ choice
Go get your consensus and then get back to me.
why do i have to fix the mess the coercive mess your fucking ungodly ideology created???
where do u think ur next life will end up, eh???
On 8/11/2026 1:40 PM, dart200 wrote:
On 8/11/26 11:57 AM, Dude wrote:There's just not much an individual ...
On 8/10/2026 9:55 PM, dart200 wrote:
On 8/10/26 5:20 PM, Dude wrote:We studied this in school: The French Revolution
On 8/10/2026 1:06 PM, dart200 wrote:
On 8/10/26 9:26 AM, Wilson wrote:We studied...
On 8/10/2026 12:03 PM, Noah Sombrero wrote:
On Mon, 10 Aug 2026 11:43:59 -0400, Wilson <Wilson@nowhere.invalid> >>>>>>>> wrote:
On 8/9/2026 6:12 PM, dart200 wrote:
On 8/9/26 11:28 AM, Wilson wrote:
On 8/9/2026 1:34 PM, dart200 wrote:
On 8/9/26 8:45 AM, Wilson wrote:
At its core, free enterprise and a market economy can be >>>>>>>>>>>>> reduced in
many ways to an economic ideology centered around private >>>>>>>>>>>>> property.
It gives me extraordinary joy to see how our founders, in >>>>>>>>>>>>> writing
the Declaration of Independence, declared that all men were >>>>>>>>>>>>> "endowed
by their Creator with certain unalienable rights, among >>>>>>>>>>>>> them are
life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness."
Here, the founders took the natural rights John Locke wrote >>>>>>>>>>>>> about in
his Second Treatise of Government in 1690 rCo "lives, >>>>>>>>>>>>> liberties, and
estates, which I call by the general name, property," and >>>>>>>>>>>>> broadened
it.-a They presupposed that property was necessary for >>>>>>>>>>>>> liberty and
that the greater aspiration behind private property was >>>>>>>>>>>>> "pursuit of
happiness" (what we call "human flourishing" in my tradition). >>>>>>>>>>>>>
Just weeks before the Declaration of Independence was written, >>>>>>>>>>>>> George Mason had codified in the Virginia Declaration of >>>>>>>>>>>>> Rights that
"the enjoyment of life and liberty, with the means of >>>>>>>>>>>>> acquiring and
possessing property" were predicates to "pursuing and >>>>>>>>>>>>> obtaining
happiness and safety."-a The founding fathers were not >>>>>>>>>>>>> waxing and
waning philosophically rCo well, they were not /only/ doing >>>>>>>>>>>>> that rCo
they were expressing the lived experience of the settlers >>>>>>>>>>>>> in the new
world.
The lived experience that served as the bedrock of our >>>>>>>>>>>>> nation was
one of private ownership driving incentives, of communal >>>>>>>>>>>>> ownership
discouraging productive work, and one where resentment was >>>>>>>>>>>>> inevitable when rewards were equal, but effort was not. >>>>>>>>>>>>> Communal
ownership of property had failed in practice because it was >>>>>>>>>>>>> first a
failed theory.
Private property is a natural right that flows from our >>>>>>>>>>>>> ability to
earn, hold, possess, retain, and manage the fruits of our >>>>>>>>>>>>> own labor.
It produces responsibility, stewardship, and abundance that >>>>>>>>>>>>> align
with human nature.
David L. Bahnsen
i love how capitalists love to jerk themselves off about >>>>>>>>>>>> freedom and
flourishing endlessly while ignoring the fact 7/8 are >>>>>>>>>>>> enslaved to a
nation-state system that coercively interferes with basic >>>>>>>>>>>> freedom of
movement
this world is a travesty of authoritarian control all you >>>>>>>>>>>> can do is
keep crying endlessly about private property, as violently >>>>>>>>>>>> owning
stuff is the _only_ principle you actually care about
Self-defense is not the initiation of violence, and as it is >>>>>>>>>>> oriented
towards the protection of life and the thriving of the human >>>>>>>>>>> person,
it is a natural human right.
you are _not_ your property
Property as gained by the effort and work of a human being is >>>>>>>>>>> inherently a part of that person's life. As such, defense of >>>>>>>>>>> that
property is also a human right.
even the person who first came up with that predicated that >>>>>>>>>> right to
mixing labor with land to claim property, on there being
enough common
lands left for all to utilize...
which we've gone so far past that you want to keep 7/8 people >>>>>>>>>> on this
planet chained to the nation state they were born in without >>>>>>>>>> even the
permission to leave.
Anyone who attempts to take away one's property or other natural >>>>>>>>>>> rights is an enabler of tyranny, and therefore an enemy of >>>>>>>>>>> life and of
humanity.
I'm not keeping them in their home countries. They just can't >>>>>>>>> all come
here, that's all.
Ok, lets change the wording a little.
"you want to keep 7/8 people on this
planet chained to nation states where they can have no future, >>>>>>>> no hope
of improvement in their lives without even the permission to go >>>>>>>> somewhere better."
No, I don't want to keep them "chained to nation states". As far >>>>>>> as I'm concerned they are free to go anywhere that's willing to >>>>>>> accept them.
my god the endless stupidity of capitalist morons refusing to
accept responsibility for the bullshit they preach...
i don't care what u studied you stupid fucking dip shit
The revolution ended noble land monopolies and peasant dues in 1789..
Established private property as a basic human right. How?
Like I said: 99.9% of all people live in nation states. There only a
the reality is 7/8 are enslaved to their nation states cause of ur
perverse obsession with violently owning stuff
very tiny minority of people that are stateless.
So, let me say this:go fuck yourself with a knife and die already
By abolishing feudal land rights and establishing legal protections
for individual ownership in the Declaration of the Rights of Man.
go fuck yourself with a knife and die already dud
On 8/11/2026 1:43 PM, dart200 wrote:
On 8/11/26 11:49 AM, Dude wrote:Let me be clear:
On 8/11/2026 10:35 AM, Wilson wrote:
On 8/10/2026 4:06 PM, dart200 wrote:Over 99.9% of all people live in nation states. It's up to them to
On 8/10/26 9:26 AM, Wilson wrote:
On 8/10/2026 12:03 PM, Noah Sombrero wrote:
On Mon, 10 Aug 2026 11:43:59 -0400, Wilson <Wilson@nowhere.invalid> >>>>>>> wrote:
On 8/9/2026 6:12 PM, dart200 wrote:
On 8/9/26 11:28 AM, Wilson wrote:
On 8/9/2026 1:34 PM, dart200 wrote:
On 8/9/26 8:45 AM, Wilson wrote:
At its core, free enterprise and a market economy can be >>>>>>>>>>>> reduced in
many ways to an economic ideology centered around private >>>>>>>>>>>> property.
It gives me extraordinary joy to see how our founders, in >>>>>>>>>>>> writing
the Declaration of Independence, declared that all men were >>>>>>>>>>>> "endowed
by their Creator with certain unalienable rights, among them >>>>>>>>>>>> are
life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness."
Here, the founders took the natural rights John Locke wrote >>>>>>>>>>>> about in
his Second Treatise of Government in 1690 rCo "lives, >>>>>>>>>>>> liberties, and
estates, which I call by the general name, property," and >>>>>>>>>>>> broadened
it.-a They presupposed that property was necessary for >>>>>>>>>>>> liberty and
that the greater aspiration behind private property was >>>>>>>>>>>> "pursuit of
happiness" (what we call "human flourishing" in my tradition). >>>>>>>>>>>>
Just weeks before the Declaration of Independence was written, >>>>>>>>>>>> George Mason had codified in the Virginia Declaration of >>>>>>>>>>>> Rights that
"the enjoyment of life and liberty, with the means of >>>>>>>>>>>> acquiring and
possessing property" were predicates to "pursuing and obtaining >>>>>>>>>>>> happiness and safety."-a The founding fathers were not waxing >>>>>>>>>>>> and
waning philosophically rCo well, they were not /only/ doing >>>>>>>>>>>> that rCo
they were expressing the lived experience of the settlers in >>>>>>>>>>>> the new
world.
The lived experience that served as the bedrock of our >>>>>>>>>>>> nation was
one of private ownership driving incentives, of communal >>>>>>>>>>>> ownership
discouraging productive work, and one where resentment was >>>>>>>>>>>> inevitable when rewards were equal, but effort was not. >>>>>>>>>>>> Communal
ownership of property had failed in practice because it was >>>>>>>>>>>> first a
failed theory.
Private property is a natural right that flows from our >>>>>>>>>>>> ability to
earn, hold, possess, retain, and manage the fruits of our >>>>>>>>>>>> own labor.
It produces responsibility, stewardship, and abundance that >>>>>>>>>>>> align
with human nature.
David L. Bahnsen
i love how capitalists love to jerk themselves off about >>>>>>>>>>> freedom and
flourishing endlessly while ignoring the fact 7/8 are
enslaved to a
nation-state system that coercively interferes with basic >>>>>>>>>>> freedom of
movement
this world is a travesty of authoritarian control all you can >>>>>>>>>>> do is
keep crying endlessly about private property, as violently >>>>>>>>>>> owning
stuff is the _only_ principle you actually care about
Self-defense is not the initiation of violence, and as it is >>>>>>>>>> oriented
towards the protection of life and the thriving of the human >>>>>>>>>> person,
it is a natural human right.
you are _not_ your property
Property as gained by the effort and work of a human being is >>>>>>>>>> inherently a part of that person's life. As such, defense of that >>>>>>>>>> property is also a human right.
even the person who first came up with that predicated that >>>>>>>>> right to
mixing labor with land to claim property, on there being enough >>>>>>>>> common
lands left for all to utilize...
which we've gone so far past that you want to keep 7/8 people >>>>>>>>> on this
planet chained to the nation state they were born in without >>>>>>>>> even the
permission to leave.
Anyone who attempts to take away one's property or other natural >>>>>>>>>> rights is an enabler of tyranny, and therefore an enemy of >>>>>>>>>> life and of
humanity.
I'm not keeping them in their home countries. They just can't >>>>>>>> all come
here, that's all.
Ok, lets change the wording a little.
"you want to keep 7/8 people on this
planet chained to nation states where they can have no future, no >>>>>>> hope
of improvement in their lives without even the permission to go
somewhere better."
No, I don't want to keep them "chained to nation states". As far
as I'm concerned they are free to go anywhere that's willing to
accept them.
my god the endless stupidity of capitalist morons refusing to
accept responsibility for the bullshit they preach...
which ofc is expected. a honest person cannot hold the positions of >>>>> sheeplefried capitalists.
I'm not even that attached to the idea of nation-states and kind
of like the idea of free places that are outside of the nation-state. >>>>>>
In any case, no place is obligated to accept everyone that wants
to go there. The current citizens get a say in the matter.
you _are_ the fucking problem wilson. if the richest country on the >>>>> planet can't "afford" basic freedom of movement, then how in the
fuck do you expect others to follow???
ur pathetic "well-wishings" are meaningless platitudes compares to
the subethical positions you hold, which are directly causal in
chaining 7/8 people on the planet to the nation states of their
birth, something they have _zero_ choice
Go get your consensus and then get back to me.
take care of their own, or not.
The US has no business interfering with any nation states and their
private property or internal affairs.
the US spent most a century interfering with internal affairs to
ensure private property stands as a global norm, no matter the cost.
it's the _only_ thing u fucking braindead apes care about
Libertarians strongly support staying out of international wars and
foreign affairs. We believe in a foreign policy of non-intervention, peaceful trade, and a strong national defense - rather than foreign
military involvement or nation-building.
On 8/11/2026 1:44 PM, dart200 wrote:
On 8/11/26 10:35 AM, Wilson wrote:There's just not much an individual can do to fix the mess you created.
On 8/10/2026 4:06 PM, dart200 wrote:
On 8/10/26 9:26 AM, Wilson wrote:
On 8/10/2026 12:03 PM, Noah Sombrero wrote:
On Mon, 10 Aug 2026 11:43:59 -0400, Wilson <Wilson@nowhere.invalid> >>>>>> wrote:
On 8/9/2026 6:12 PM, dart200 wrote:
On 8/9/26 11:28 AM, Wilson wrote:
On 8/9/2026 1:34 PM, dart200 wrote:
On 8/9/26 8:45 AM, Wilson wrote:
At its core, free enterprise and a market economy can be >>>>>>>>>>> reduced in
many ways to an economic ideology centered around private >>>>>>>>>>> property.
It gives me extraordinary joy to see how our founders, in >>>>>>>>>>> writing
the Declaration of Independence, declared that all men were >>>>>>>>>>> "endowed
by their Creator with certain unalienable rights, among them are >>>>>>>>>>> life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness."
Here, the founders took the natural rights John Locke wrote >>>>>>>>>>> about in
his Second Treatise of Government in 1690 rCo "lives,
liberties, and
estates, which I call by the general name, property," and >>>>>>>>>>> broadened
it.-a They presupposed that property was necessary for liberty >>>>>>>>>>> and
that the greater aspiration behind private property was >>>>>>>>>>> "pursuit of
happiness" (what we call "human flourishing" in my tradition). >>>>>>>>>>>
Just weeks before the Declaration of Independence was written, >>>>>>>>>>> George Mason had codified in the Virginia Declaration of >>>>>>>>>>> Rights that
"the enjoyment of life and liberty, with the means of
acquiring and
possessing property" were predicates to "pursuing and obtaining >>>>>>>>>>> happiness and safety."-a The founding fathers were not waxing and >>>>>>>>>>> waning philosophically rCo well, they were not /only/ doing that rCo
they were expressing the lived experience of the settlers in >>>>>>>>>>> the new
world.
The lived experience that served as the bedrock of our nation >>>>>>>>>>> was
one of private ownership driving incentives, of communal >>>>>>>>>>> ownership
discouraging productive work, and one where resentment was >>>>>>>>>>> inevitable when rewards were equal, but effort was not. >>>>>>>>>>> Communal
ownership of property had failed in practice because it was >>>>>>>>>>> first a
failed theory.
Private property is a natural right that flows from our >>>>>>>>>>> ability to
earn, hold, possess, retain, and manage the fruits of our own >>>>>>>>>>> labor.
It produces responsibility, stewardship, and abundance that >>>>>>>>>>> align
with human nature.
David L. Bahnsen
i love how capitalists love to jerk themselves off about
freedom and
flourishing endlessly while ignoring the fact 7/8 are enslaved >>>>>>>>>> to a
nation-state system that coercively interferes with basic >>>>>>>>>> freedom of
movement
this world is a travesty of authoritarian control all you can >>>>>>>>>> do is
keep crying endlessly about private property, as violently owning >>>>>>>>>> stuff is the _only_ principle you actually care about
Self-defense is not the initiation of violence, and as it is >>>>>>>>> oriented
towards the protection of life and the thriving of the human >>>>>>>>> person,
it is a natural human right.
you are _not_ your property
Property as gained by the effort and work of a human being is >>>>>>>>> inherently a part of that person's life. As such, defense of that >>>>>>>>> property is also a human right.
even the person who first came up with that predicated that
right to
mixing labor with land to claim property, on there being enough >>>>>>>> common
lands left for all to utilize...
which we've gone so far past that you want to keep 7/8 people on >>>>>>>> this
planet chained to the nation state they were born in without
even the
permission to leave.
Anyone who attempts to take away one's property or other natural >>>>>>>>> rights is an enabler of tyranny, and therefore an enemy of life >>>>>>>>> and of
humanity.
I'm not keeping them in their home countries. They just can't all >>>>>>> come
here, that's all.
Ok, lets change the wording a little.
"you want to keep 7/8 people on this
planet chained to nation states where they can have no future, no >>>>>> hope
of improvement in their lives without even the permission to go
somewhere better."
No, I don't want to keep them "chained to nation states". As far as >>>>> I'm concerned they are free to go anywhere that's willing to accept >>>>> them.
my god the endless stupidity of capitalist morons refusing to accept
responsibility for the bullshit they preach...
which ofc is expected. a honest person cannot hold the positions of
sheeplefried capitalists.
I'm not even that attached to the idea of nation-states and kind of >>>>> like the idea of free places that are outside of the nation-state.
In any case, no place is obligated to accept everyone that wants to >>>>> go there. The current citizens get a say in the matter.
you _are_ the fucking problem wilson. if the richest country on the
planet can't "afford" basic freedom of movement, then how in the
fuck do you expect others to follow???
ur pathetic "well-wishings" are meaningless platitudes compares to
the subethical positions you hold, which are directly causal in
chaining 7/8 people on the planet to the nation states of their
birth, something they have _zero_ choice
Go get your consensus and then get back to me.
why do i have to fix the mess the coercive mess your fucking ungodly
ideology created???
where do u think ur next life will end up, eh???
On 8/11/26 1:53 PM, Dude wrote:
On 8/11/2026 1:40 PM, dart200 wrote:
On 8/11/26 11:57 AM, Dude wrote:There's just not much an individual ...
On 8/10/2026 9:55 PM, dart200 wrote:
On 8/10/26 5:20 PM, Dude wrote:We studied this in school: The French Revolution
On 8/10/2026 1:06 PM, dart200 wrote:
On 8/10/26 9:26 AM, Wilson wrote:We studied...
On 8/10/2026 12:03 PM, Noah Sombrero wrote:
On Mon, 10 Aug 2026 11:43:59 -0400, Wilson
<Wilson@nowhere.invalid>
wrote:
On 8/9/2026 6:12 PM, dart200 wrote:
On 8/9/26 11:28 AM, Wilson wrote:
On 8/9/2026 1:34 PM, dart200 wrote:
On 8/9/26 8:45 AM, Wilson wrote:Self-defense is not the initiation of violence, and as it is >>>>>>>>>>>> oriented
At its core, free enterprise and a market economy can be >>>>>>>>>>>>>> reduced in
many ways to an economic ideology centered around private >>>>>>>>>>>>>> property.
It gives me extraordinary joy to see how our founders, in >>>>>>>>>>>>>> writing
the Declaration of Independence, declared that all men >>>>>>>>>>>>>> were "endowed
by their Creator with certain unalienable rights, among >>>>>>>>>>>>>> them are
life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness."
Here, the founders took the natural rights John Locke >>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote about in
his Second Treatise of Government in 1690 rCo "lives, >>>>>>>>>>>>>> liberties, and
estates, which I call by the general name, property," and >>>>>>>>>>>>>> broadened
it.-a They presupposed that property was necessary for >>>>>>>>>>>>>> liberty and
that the greater aspiration behind private property was >>>>>>>>>>>>>> "pursuit of
happiness" (what we call "human flourishing" in my >>>>>>>>>>>>>> tradition).
Just weeks before the Declaration of Independence was >>>>>>>>>>>>>> written,
George Mason had codified in the Virginia Declaration of >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Rights that
"the enjoyment of life and liberty, with the means of >>>>>>>>>>>>>> acquiring and
possessing property" were predicates to "pursuing and >>>>>>>>>>>>>> obtaining
happiness and safety."-a The founding fathers were not >>>>>>>>>>>>>> waxing and
waning philosophically rCo well, they were not /only/ doing >>>>>>>>>>>>>> that rCo
they were expressing the lived experience of the settlers >>>>>>>>>>>>>> in the new
world.
The lived experience that served as the bedrock of our >>>>>>>>>>>>>> nation was
one of private ownership driving incentives, of communal >>>>>>>>>>>>>> ownership
discouraging productive work, and one where resentment was >>>>>>>>>>>>>> inevitable when rewards were equal, but effort was not. >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Communal
ownership of property had failed in practice because it >>>>>>>>>>>>>> was first a
failed theory.
Private property is a natural right that flows from our >>>>>>>>>>>>>> ability to
earn, hold, possess, retain, and manage the fruits of our >>>>>>>>>>>>>> own labor.
It produces responsibility, stewardship, and abundance >>>>>>>>>>>>>> that align
with human nature.
David L. Bahnsen
i love how capitalists love to jerk themselves off about >>>>>>>>>>>>> freedom and
flourishing endlessly while ignoring the fact 7/8 are >>>>>>>>>>>>> enslaved to a
nation-state system that coercively interferes with basic >>>>>>>>>>>>> freedom of
movement
this world is a travesty of authoritarian control all you >>>>>>>>>>>>> can do is
keep crying endlessly about private property, as violently >>>>>>>>>>>>> owning
stuff is the _only_ principle you actually care about >>>>>>>>>>>>
towards the protection of life and the thriving of the human >>>>>>>>>>>> person,
it is a natural human right.
you are _not_ your property
Property as gained by the effort and work of a human being is >>>>>>>>>>>> inherently a part of that person's life. As such, defense of >>>>>>>>>>>> that
property is also a human right.
even the person who first came up with that predicated that >>>>>>>>>>> right to
mixing labor with land to claim property, on there being >>>>>>>>>>> enough common
lands left for all to utilize...
which we've gone so far past that you want to keep 7/8 people >>>>>>>>>>> on this
planet chained to the nation state they were born in without >>>>>>>>>>> even the
permission to leave.
Anyone who attempts to take away one's property or other >>>>>>>>>>>> natural
rights is an enabler of tyranny, and therefore an enemy of >>>>>>>>>>>> life and of
humanity.
I'm not keeping them in their home countries. They just can't >>>>>>>>>> all come
here, that's all.
Ok, lets change the wording a little.
"you want to keep 7/8 people on this
planet chained to nation states where they can have no future, >>>>>>>>> no hope
of improvement in their lives without even the permission to go >>>>>>>>> somewhere better."
No, I don't want to keep them "chained to nation states". As far >>>>>>>> as I'm concerned they are free to go anywhere that's willing to >>>>>>>> accept them.
my god the endless stupidity of capitalist morons refusing to
accept responsibility for the bullshit they preach...
i don't care what u studied you stupid fucking dip shit
The revolution ended noble land monopolies and peasant dues in
1789.. Established private property as a basic human right. How?
Like I said: 99.9% of all people live in nation states. There only a
the reality is 7/8 are enslaved to their nation states cause of ur
perverse obsession with violently owning stuff
very tiny minority of people that are stateless.
So, let me say this:go fuck yourself with a knife and die already
By abolishing feudal land rights and establishing legal protections
for individual ownership in the Declaration of the Rights of Man.
go fuck yourself with a knife and die already dud
you could be arguing against idiots like wilson instead of supporting
him you stupid moron
go fuck yourself with a knife and die already dud
On 8/11/26 2:02 PM, Dude wrote:
On 8/11/2026 1:43 PM, dart200 wrote:
On 8/11/26 11:49 AM, Dude wrote:Let me be clear:
On 8/11/2026 10:35 AM, Wilson wrote:
On 8/10/2026 4:06 PM, dart200 wrote:Over 99.9% of all people live in nation states. It's up to them to
On 8/10/26 9:26 AM, Wilson wrote:
On 8/10/2026 12:03 PM, Noah Sombrero wrote:
On Mon, 10 Aug 2026 11:43:59 -0400, Wilson <Wilson@nowhere.invalid> >>>>>>>> wrote:
On 8/9/2026 6:12 PM, dart200 wrote:
On 8/9/26 11:28 AM, Wilson wrote:
On 8/9/2026 1:34 PM, dart200 wrote:
On 8/9/26 8:45 AM, Wilson wrote:
At its core, free enterprise and a market economy can be >>>>>>>>>>>>> reduced in
many ways to an economic ideology centered around private >>>>>>>>>>>>> property.
It gives me extraordinary joy to see how our founders, in >>>>>>>>>>>>> writing
the Declaration of Independence, declared that all men were >>>>>>>>>>>>> "endowed
by their Creator with certain unalienable rights, among >>>>>>>>>>>>> them are
life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness."
Here, the founders took the natural rights John Locke wrote >>>>>>>>>>>>> about in
his Second Treatise of Government in 1690 rCo "lives, >>>>>>>>>>>>> liberties, and
estates, which I call by the general name, property," and >>>>>>>>>>>>> broadened
it.-a They presupposed that property was necessary for >>>>>>>>>>>>> liberty and
that the greater aspiration behind private property was >>>>>>>>>>>>> "pursuit of
happiness" (what we call "human flourishing" in my tradition). >>>>>>>>>>>>>
Just weeks before the Declaration of Independence was written, >>>>>>>>>>>>> George Mason had codified in the Virginia Declaration of >>>>>>>>>>>>> Rights that
"the enjoyment of life and liberty, with the means of >>>>>>>>>>>>> acquiring and
possessing property" were predicates to "pursuing and >>>>>>>>>>>>> obtaining
happiness and safety."-a The founding fathers were not >>>>>>>>>>>>> waxing and
waning philosophically rCo well, they were not /only/ doing >>>>>>>>>>>>> that rCo
they were expressing the lived experience of the settlers >>>>>>>>>>>>> in the new
world.
The lived experience that served as the bedrock of our >>>>>>>>>>>>> nation was
one of private ownership driving incentives, of communal >>>>>>>>>>>>> ownership
discouraging productive work, and one where resentment was >>>>>>>>>>>>> inevitable when rewards were equal, but effort was not. >>>>>>>>>>>>> Communal
ownership of property had failed in practice because it was >>>>>>>>>>>>> first a
failed theory.
Private property is a natural right that flows from our >>>>>>>>>>>>> ability to
earn, hold, possess, retain, and manage the fruits of our >>>>>>>>>>>>> own labor.
It produces responsibility, stewardship, and abundance that >>>>>>>>>>>>> align
with human nature.
David L. Bahnsen
i love how capitalists love to jerk themselves off about >>>>>>>>>>>> freedom and
flourishing endlessly while ignoring the fact 7/8 are >>>>>>>>>>>> enslaved to a
nation-state system that coercively interferes with basic >>>>>>>>>>>> freedom of
movement
this world is a travesty of authoritarian control all you >>>>>>>>>>>> can do is
keep crying endlessly about private property, as violently >>>>>>>>>>>> owning
stuff is the _only_ principle you actually care about
Self-defense is not the initiation of violence, and as it is >>>>>>>>>>> oriented
towards the protection of life and the thriving of the human >>>>>>>>>>> person,
it is a natural human right.
you are _not_ your property
Property as gained by the effort and work of a human being is >>>>>>>>>>> inherently a part of that person's life. As such, defense of >>>>>>>>>>> that
property is also a human right.
even the person who first came up with that predicated that >>>>>>>>>> right to
mixing labor with land to claim property, on there being
enough common
lands left for all to utilize...
which we've gone so far past that you want to keep 7/8 people >>>>>>>>>> on this
planet chained to the nation state they were born in without >>>>>>>>>> even the
permission to leave.
Anyone who attempts to take away one's property or other natural >>>>>>>>>>> rights is an enabler of tyranny, and therefore an enemy of >>>>>>>>>>> life and of
humanity.
I'm not keeping them in their home countries. They just can't >>>>>>>>> all come
here, that's all.
Ok, lets change the wording a little.
"you want to keep 7/8 people on this
planet chained to nation states where they can have no future, >>>>>>>> no hope
of improvement in their lives without even the permission to go >>>>>>>> somewhere better."
No, I don't want to keep them "chained to nation states". As far >>>>>>> as I'm concerned they are free to go anywhere that's willing to >>>>>>> accept them.
my god the endless stupidity of capitalist morons refusing to
accept responsibility for the bullshit they preach...
which ofc is expected. a honest person cannot hold the positions
of sheeplefried capitalists.
I'm not even that attached to the idea of nation-states and kind >>>>>>> of like the idea of free places that are outside of the nation- >>>>>>> state.
In any case, no place is obligated to accept everyone that wants >>>>>>> to go there. The current citizens get a say in the matter.
you _are_ the fucking problem wilson. if the richest country on
the planet can't "afford" basic freedom of movement, then how in
the fuck do you expect others to follow???
ur pathetic "well-wishings" are meaningless platitudes compares to >>>>>> the subethical positions you hold, which are directly causal in
chaining 7/8 people on the planet to the nation states of their
birth, something they have _zero_ choice
Go get your consensus and then get back to me.
take care of their own, or not.
The US has no business interfering with any nation states and their
private property or internal affairs.
the US spent most a century interfering with internal affairs to
ensure private property stands as a global norm, no matter the cost.
it's the _only_ thing u fucking braindead apes care about
Libertarians strongly support staying out of international wars and
so why'd u elect trump dumbass?
foreign affairs. We believe in a foreign policy of non-intervention,
peaceful trade, and a strong national defense - rather than foreign
military involvement or nation-building.
you don't even believe in ending tariffs let alone opening borders
On 8/11/26 2:12 PM, Dude wrote:
On 8/11/2026 1:44 PM, dart200 wrote:
On 8/11/26 10:35 AM, Wilson wrote:There's just not much an individual can do to fix the mess you created.
On 8/10/2026 4:06 PM, dart200 wrote:
On 8/10/26 9:26 AM, Wilson wrote:
On 8/10/2026 12:03 PM, Noah Sombrero wrote:
On Mon, 10 Aug 2026 11:43:59 -0400, Wilson <Wilson@nowhere.invalid> >>>>>>> wrote:
On 8/9/2026 6:12 PM, dart200 wrote:
On 8/9/26 11:28 AM, Wilson wrote:
On 8/9/2026 1:34 PM, dart200 wrote:
On 8/9/26 8:45 AM, Wilson wrote:
At its core, free enterprise and a market economy can be >>>>>>>>>>>> reduced in
many ways to an economic ideology centered around private >>>>>>>>>>>> property.
It gives me extraordinary joy to see how our founders, in >>>>>>>>>>>> writing
the Declaration of Independence, declared that all men were >>>>>>>>>>>> "endowed
by their Creator with certain unalienable rights, among them >>>>>>>>>>>> are
life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness."
Here, the founders took the natural rights John Locke wrote >>>>>>>>>>>> about in
his Second Treatise of Government in 1690 rCo "lives, >>>>>>>>>>>> liberties, and
estates, which I call by the general name, property," and >>>>>>>>>>>> broadened
it.-a They presupposed that property was necessary for >>>>>>>>>>>> liberty and
that the greater aspiration behind private property was >>>>>>>>>>>> "pursuit of
happiness" (what we call "human flourishing" in my tradition). >>>>>>>>>>>>
Just weeks before the Declaration of Independence was written, >>>>>>>>>>>> George Mason had codified in the Virginia Declaration of >>>>>>>>>>>> Rights that
"the enjoyment of life and liberty, with the means of >>>>>>>>>>>> acquiring and
possessing property" were predicates to "pursuing and obtaining >>>>>>>>>>>> happiness and safety."-a The founding fathers were not waxing >>>>>>>>>>>> and
waning philosophically rCo well, they were not /only/ doing >>>>>>>>>>>> that rCo
they were expressing the lived experience of the settlers in >>>>>>>>>>>> the new
world.
The lived experience that served as the bedrock of our >>>>>>>>>>>> nation was
one of private ownership driving incentives, of communal >>>>>>>>>>>> ownership
discouraging productive work, and one where resentment was >>>>>>>>>>>> inevitable when rewards were equal, but effort was not. >>>>>>>>>>>> Communal
ownership of property had failed in practice because it was >>>>>>>>>>>> first a
failed theory.
Private property is a natural right that flows from our >>>>>>>>>>>> ability to
earn, hold, possess, retain, and manage the fruits of our >>>>>>>>>>>> own labor.
It produces responsibility, stewardship, and abundance that >>>>>>>>>>>> align
with human nature.
David L. Bahnsen
i love how capitalists love to jerk themselves off about >>>>>>>>>>> freedom and
flourishing endlessly while ignoring the fact 7/8 are
enslaved to a
nation-state system that coercively interferes with basic >>>>>>>>>>> freedom of
movement
this world is a travesty of authoritarian control all you can >>>>>>>>>>> do is
keep crying endlessly about private property, as violently >>>>>>>>>>> owning
stuff is the _only_ principle you actually care about
Self-defense is not the initiation of violence, and as it is >>>>>>>>>> oriented
towards the protection of life and the thriving of the human >>>>>>>>>> person,
it is a natural human right.
you are _not_ your property
Property as gained by the effort and work of a human being is >>>>>>>>>> inherently a part of that person's life. As such, defense of that >>>>>>>>>> property is also a human right.
even the person who first came up with that predicated that >>>>>>>>> right to
mixing labor with land to claim property, on there being enough >>>>>>>>> common
lands left for all to utilize...
which we've gone so far past that you want to keep 7/8 people >>>>>>>>> on this
planet chained to the nation state they were born in without >>>>>>>>> even the
permission to leave.
Anyone who attempts to take away one's property or other natural >>>>>>>>>> rights is an enabler of tyranny, and therefore an enemy of >>>>>>>>>> life and of
humanity.
I'm not keeping them in their home countries. They just can't >>>>>>>> all come
here, that's all.
Ok, lets change the wording a little.
"you want to keep 7/8 people on this
planet chained to nation states where they can have no future, no >>>>>>> hope
of improvement in their lives without even the permission to go
somewhere better."
No, I don't want to keep them "chained to nation states". As far
as I'm concerned they are free to go anywhere that's willing to
accept them.
my god the endless stupidity of capitalist morons refusing to
accept responsibility for the bullshit they preach...
which ofc is expected. a honest person cannot hold the positions of >>>>> sheeplefried capitalists.
I'm not even that attached to the idea of nation-states and kind
of like the idea of free places that are outside of the nation-state. >>>>>>
In any case, no place is obligated to accept everyone that wants
to go there. The current citizens get a say in the matter.
you _are_ the fucking problem wilson. if the richest country on the >>>>> planet can't "afford" basic freedom of movement, then how in the
fuck do you expect others to follow???
ur pathetic "well-wishings" are meaningless platitudes compares to
the subethical positions you hold, which are directly causal in
chaining 7/8 people on the planet to the nation states of their
birth, something they have _zero_ choice
Go get your consensus and then get back to me.
why do i have to fix the mess the coercive mess your fucking ungodly
ideology created???
where do u think ur next life will end up, eh???
you could start by advocating for it as a problem instead of endlessly denying it's a problem u stupid fuck
On 8/11/26 11:52 AM, Dude wrote:
On 8/10/2026 9:56 PM, dart200 wrote:
On 8/10/26 5:25 PM, Dude wrote:Like I said:
On 8/10/2026 2:41 PM, dart200 wrote:
On 8/10/26 2:36 PM, Dude wrote:Like I said:
On 8/10/2026 11:37 AM, dart200 wrote:
On 8/10/26 10:37 AM, Dude wrote:When the United Nations General Assembly adopted the Universal
On 8/9/2026 3:39 PM, dart200 wrote:
On 8/9/26 3:21 PM, Dude wrote:You are incorrect. 99.9% of all people on earth live in nation >>>>>>>> states.
On 8/9/2026 10:34 AM, dart200 wrote:
On 8/9/26 8:45 AM, Wilson wrote:You are not responsible for anyone jerking themselves off, or >>>>>>>>>> not.
At its core, free enterprise and a market economy can be >>>>>>>>>>>> reduced in many ways to an economic ideology centered around >>>>>>>>>>>> private property. It gives me extraordinary joy to see how >>>>>>>>>>>> our founders, in writing the Declaration of Independence, >>>>>>>>>>>> declared that all men were "endowed by their Creator with >>>>>>>>>>>> certain unalienable rights, among them are life, liberty, >>>>>>>>>>>> and the pursuit of happiness."
Here, the founders took the natural rights John Locke wrote >>>>>>>>>>>> about in his Second Treatise of Government in 1690 rCo "lives, >>>>>>>>>>>> liberties, and estates, which I call by the general name, >>>>>>>>>>>> property," and broadened it.-a They presupposed that property >>>>>>>>>>>> was necessary for liberty and that the greater aspiration >>>>>>>>>>>> behind private property was "pursuit of happiness" (what we >>>>>>>>>>>> call "human flourishing" in my tradition).
Just weeks before the Declaration of Independence was >>>>>>>>>>>> written, George Mason had codified in the Virginia
Declaration of Rights that "the enjoyment of life and >>>>>>>>>>>> liberty, with the means of acquiring and possessing
property" were predicates to "pursuing and obtaining
happiness and safety."-a The founding fathers were not waxing >>>>>>>>>>>> and waning philosophically rCo well, they were not / only/ >>>>>>>>>>>> doing that rCo they were expressing the lived experience of >>>>>>>>>>>> the settlers in the new world.
The lived experience that served as the bedrock of our >>>>>>>>>>>> nation was one of private ownership driving incentives, of >>>>>>>>>>>> communal ownership discouraging productive work, and one >>>>>>>>>>>> where resentment was inevitable when rewards were equal, but >>>>>>>>>>>> effort was not. Communal ownership of property had failed in >>>>>>>>>>>> practice because it was first a failed theory.
Private property is a natural right that flows from our >>>>>>>>>>>> ability to earn, hold, possess, retain, and manage the >>>>>>>>>>>> fruits of our own labor. It produces responsibility,
stewardship, and abundance that align with human nature. >>>>>>>>>>>>
David L. Bahnsen
i love how capitalists love to jerk themselves off about >>>>>>>>>>> freedom and flourishing endlessly while ignoring the fact 7/8 >>>>>>>>>>> are enslaved to a nation-state system that coercively
interferes with basic freedom of movement
You are responsible only for your own jerking off - hopefully >>>>>>>>>> at home on your own time, maybe in the bathroom. Hopefully >>>>>>>>>> nobody is forcing you to stoop to self abuse, but that happens >>>>>>>>>> in marriage, especially just after giving birth. YMMV.
You have my sympathies. It's tough getting cut off! Remember, >>>>>>>>>> you have a human right to pleasure yourself!
this world is a travesty of authoritarian control all you can >>>>>>>>>>> do is keep crying endlessly about private property, as
violently owning stuff is the _only_ principle you actually >>>>>>>>>>> care about
It's nothing to be ashamed of, Nick.
-a-a> what disgustingly creepy inhumane fuck you are
Hope this helps.
-a-a> #god
nice how you just ignored how capitalism went and chained 7/8 >>>>>>>>> people of the entire planet to their respective nation states >>>>>>>>> in service of the only principle they actually care about:
private property
you are retarded
You snipped this out:
The United Nations explicitly states that humans have rights
from birth in Article 1 of the Universal Declaration of Human >>>>>>>> Rights, which proclaims that "all human beings are born free and >>>>>>>> equal in dignity and rights".
well we've clearly failed to achieve that since most humans are >>>>>>> chained to their nation states and lack equal freedom of movement >>>>>>>
Declaration of Human Rights, out of the 58 member states at the
time, 48 voted in favor, none voted against, 8 abstained, and 2
were absent.
fuck you you dumb boomer cuntYou snipped something out and cross-posted. Let me repeat:
We studied this in school: The French Revolution
The revolution ended noble land monopolies and peasant dues in >>>>>>>> 1789.. Established private property as a basic human right. How? >>>>>>>>
By abolishing feudal land rights and establishing legal
protections for individual ownership in the Declaration of the >>>>>>>> Rights of Man.
see what i mean? ur still defending property instead of
addressing the fact 7/8 on this planet are not free enough to
simply walk around freely
The 8 Abstaining Countries:
Saudi Arabia (objected to certain articles, such as freedom of
religion and the right to change one's religion, viewing them as
contrary to Islamic law)South Africa (abstained due to its
apartheid system, which conflicted with the declaration's
principles on racial equality)
Soviet Union
Belarus
Ukrainian
Czechoslovakia
Poland
is this supposed to somehow defend the rest of world which hasn't
managed basic freedom or movement??? idgaf what anyone signed dud,
ur an absolute fucking unrepentant sinner unworthy of the air you
breath dud. find a grave and sit in it
choke on a large dick until you die u subhuman ape
On 8/11/2026 3:04 PM, dart200 wrote:
On 8/11/26 1:53 PM, Dude wrote:Like I said:
On 8/11/2026 1:40 PM, dart200 wrote:
On 8/11/26 11:57 AM, Dude wrote:There's just not much an individual ...
On 8/10/2026 9:55 PM, dart200 wrote:
On 8/10/26 5:20 PM, Dude wrote:We studied this in school: The French Revolution
On 8/10/2026 1:06 PM, dart200 wrote:
On 8/10/26 9:26 AM, Wilson wrote:We studied...
On 8/10/2026 12:03 PM, Noah Sombrero wrote:
On Mon, 10 Aug 2026 11:43:59 -0400, Wilson
<Wilson@nowhere.invalid>
wrote:
On 8/9/2026 6:12 PM, dart200 wrote:
On 8/9/26 11:28 AM, Wilson wrote:
On 8/9/2026 1:34 PM, dart200 wrote:
On 8/9/26 8:45 AM, Wilson wrote:Self-defense is not the initiation of violence, and as it >>>>>>>>>>>>> is oriented
At its core, free enterprise and a market economy can be >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> reduced in
many ways to an economic ideology centered around private >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> property.
It gives me extraordinary joy to see how our founders, in >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> writing
the Declaration of Independence, declared that all men >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> were "endowed
by their Creator with certain unalienable rights, among >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> them are
life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness."
Here, the founders took the natural rights John Locke >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote about in
his Second Treatise of Government in 1690 rCo "lives, >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> liberties, and
estates, which I call by the general name, property," and >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> broadened
it.-a They presupposed that property was necessary for >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> liberty and
that the greater aspiration behind private property was >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> "pursuit of
happiness" (what we call "human flourishing" in my >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> tradition).
Just weeks before the Declaration of Independence was >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> written,
George Mason had codified in the Virginia Declaration of >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Rights that
"the enjoyment of life and liberty, with the means of >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> acquiring and
possessing property" were predicates to "pursuing and >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> obtaining
happiness and safety."-a The founding fathers were not >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> waxing and
waning philosophically rCo well, they were not /only/ doing >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> that rCo
they were expressing the lived experience of the settlers >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> in the new
world.
The lived experience that served as the bedrock of our >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> nation was
one of private ownership driving incentives, of communal >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ownership
discouraging productive work, and one where resentment was >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> inevitable when rewards were equal, but effort was not. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Communal
ownership of property had failed in practice because it >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> was first a
failed theory.
Private property is a natural right that flows from our >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ability to
earn, hold, possess, retain, and manage the fruits of our >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> own labor.
It produces responsibility, stewardship, and abundance >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> that align
with human nature.
David L. Bahnsen
i love how capitalists love to jerk themselves off about >>>>>>>>>>>>>> freedom and
flourishing endlessly while ignoring the fact 7/8 are >>>>>>>>>>>>>> enslaved to a
nation-state system that coercively interferes with basic >>>>>>>>>>>>>> freedom of
movement
this world is a travesty of authoritarian control all you >>>>>>>>>>>>>> can do is
keep crying endlessly about private property, as violently >>>>>>>>>>>>>> owning
stuff is the _only_ principle you actually care about >>>>>>>>>>>>>
towards the protection of life and the thriving of the >>>>>>>>>>>>> human person,
it is a natural human right.
you are _not_ your property
Property as gained by the effort and work of a human being is >>>>>>>>>>>>> inherently a part of that person's life. As such, defense >>>>>>>>>>>>> of that
property is also a human right.
even the person who first came up with that predicated that >>>>>>>>>>>> right to
mixing labor with land to claim property, on there being >>>>>>>>>>>> enough common
lands left for all to utilize...
which we've gone so far past that you want to keep 7/8 >>>>>>>>>>>> people on this
planet chained to the nation state they were born in without >>>>>>>>>>>> even the
permission to leave.
Anyone who attempts to take away one's property or other >>>>>>>>>>>>> natural
rights is an enabler of tyranny, and therefore an enemy of >>>>>>>>>>>>> life and of
humanity.
I'm not keeping them in their home countries. They just can't >>>>>>>>>>> all come
here, that's all.
Ok, lets change the wording a little.
"you want to keep 7/8 people on this
planet chained to nation states where they can have no future, >>>>>>>>>> no hope
of improvement in their lives without even the permission to go >>>>>>>>>> somewhere better."
No, I don't want to keep them "chained to nation states". As >>>>>>>>> far as I'm concerned they are free to go anywhere that's
willing to accept them.
my god the endless stupidity of capitalist morons refusing to >>>>>>>> accept responsibility for the bullshit they preach...
i don't care what u studied you stupid fucking dip shit
The revolution ended noble land monopolies and peasant dues in
1789.. Established private property as a basic human right. How?
Like I said: 99.9% of all people live in nation states. There only
the reality is 7/8 are enslaved to their nation states cause of ur >>>>>> perverse obsession with violently owning stuff
a very tiny minority of people that are stateless.
So, let me say this:go fuck yourself with a knife and die already
By abolishing feudal land rights and establishing legal protections >>>>> for individual ownership in the Declaration of the Rights of Man.
go fuck yourself with a knife and die already dud
you could be arguing against idiots like wilson instead of supporting
him you stupid moron
go fuck yourself with a knife and die already dud
There's just not much an individual can do to alter the private monetary system of free market capitalism. Over 99.9 of all nation states are in
the system 100% of all people n the planet are in it for the money.
We studied this in school: The French Revolution
The French Revolution ended noble land monopolies and peasant dues in
1789.. Established private property as a basic human right. How?
By abolishing feudal land rights and establishing legal protections for individual ownership in the Declaration of the Rights of Man.
By abolishing feudal land rights and establishing legal protections for individual ownership in the Declaration of the Rights of Man.
The United Nations explicitly states that humans have rights from birth
in Article 1 of the Universal Declaration of Human Rights, which
proclaims that "all human beings are born free and equal in dignity and rights."
Like I said:
99.9% of all people live in nation states. There only a very tiny
minority of people that are stateless, so go fuck yourself.
On 8/11/2026 3:06 PM, dart200 wrote:
On 8/11/26 2:12 PM, Dude wrote:You came here for enlightenment?
On 8/11/2026 1:44 PM, dart200 wrote:
On 8/11/26 10:35 AM, Wilson wrote:There's just not much an individual can do to fix the mess you created.
On 8/10/2026 4:06 PM, dart200 wrote:
On 8/10/26 9:26 AM, Wilson wrote:
On 8/10/2026 12:03 PM, Noah Sombrero wrote:
On Mon, 10 Aug 2026 11:43:59 -0400, Wilson <Wilson@nowhere.invalid> >>>>>>>> wrote:
On 8/9/2026 6:12 PM, dart200 wrote:
On 8/9/26 11:28 AM, Wilson wrote:
On 8/9/2026 1:34 PM, dart200 wrote:
On 8/9/26 8:45 AM, Wilson wrote:
At its core, free enterprise and a market economy can be >>>>>>>>>>>>> reduced in
many ways to an economic ideology centered around private >>>>>>>>>>>>> property.
It gives me extraordinary joy to see how our founders, in >>>>>>>>>>>>> writing
the Declaration of Independence, declared that all men were >>>>>>>>>>>>> "endowed
by their Creator with certain unalienable rights, among >>>>>>>>>>>>> them are
life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness."
Here, the founders took the natural rights John Locke wrote >>>>>>>>>>>>> about in
his Second Treatise of Government in 1690 rCo "lives, >>>>>>>>>>>>> liberties, and
estates, which I call by the general name, property," and >>>>>>>>>>>>> broadened
it.-a They presupposed that property was necessary for >>>>>>>>>>>>> liberty and
that the greater aspiration behind private property was >>>>>>>>>>>>> "pursuit of
happiness" (what we call "human flourishing" in my tradition). >>>>>>>>>>>>>
Just weeks before the Declaration of Independence was written, >>>>>>>>>>>>> George Mason had codified in the Virginia Declaration of >>>>>>>>>>>>> Rights that
"the enjoyment of life and liberty, with the means of >>>>>>>>>>>>> acquiring and
possessing property" were predicates to "pursuing and >>>>>>>>>>>>> obtaining
happiness and safety."-a The founding fathers were not >>>>>>>>>>>>> waxing and
waning philosophically rCo well, they were not /only/ doing >>>>>>>>>>>>> that rCo
they were expressing the lived experience of the settlers >>>>>>>>>>>>> in the new
world.
The lived experience that served as the bedrock of our >>>>>>>>>>>>> nation was
one of private ownership driving incentives, of communal >>>>>>>>>>>>> ownership
discouraging productive work, and one where resentment was >>>>>>>>>>>>> inevitable when rewards were equal, but effort was not. >>>>>>>>>>>>> Communal
ownership of property had failed in practice because it was >>>>>>>>>>>>> first a
failed theory.
Private property is a natural right that flows from our >>>>>>>>>>>>> ability to
earn, hold, possess, retain, and manage the fruits of our >>>>>>>>>>>>> own labor.
It produces responsibility, stewardship, and abundance that >>>>>>>>>>>>> align
with human nature.
David L. Bahnsen
i love how capitalists love to jerk themselves off about >>>>>>>>>>>> freedom and
flourishing endlessly while ignoring the fact 7/8 are >>>>>>>>>>>> enslaved to a
nation-state system that coercively interferes with basic >>>>>>>>>>>> freedom of
movement
this world is a travesty of authoritarian control all you >>>>>>>>>>>> can do is
keep crying endlessly about private property, as violently >>>>>>>>>>>> owning
stuff is the _only_ principle you actually care about
Self-defense is not the initiation of violence, and as it is >>>>>>>>>>> oriented
towards the protection of life and the thriving of the human >>>>>>>>>>> person,
it is a natural human right.
you are _not_ your property
Property as gained by the effort and work of a human being is >>>>>>>>>>> inherently a part of that person's life. As such, defense of >>>>>>>>>>> that
property is also a human right.
even the person who first came up with that predicated that >>>>>>>>>> right to
mixing labor with land to claim property, on there being
enough common
lands left for all to utilize...
which we've gone so far past that you want to keep 7/8 people >>>>>>>>>> on this
planet chained to the nation state they were born in without >>>>>>>>>> even the
permission to leave.
Anyone who attempts to take away one's property or other natural >>>>>>>>>>> rights is an enabler of tyranny, and therefore an enemy of >>>>>>>>>>> life and of
humanity.
I'm not keeping them in their home countries. They just can't >>>>>>>>> all come
here, that's all.
Ok, lets change the wording a little.
"you want to keep 7/8 people on this
planet chained to nation states where they can have no future, >>>>>>>> no hope
of improvement in their lives without even the permission to go >>>>>>>> somewhere better."
No, I don't want to keep them "chained to nation states". As far >>>>>>> as I'm concerned they are free to go anywhere that's willing to >>>>>>> accept them.
my god the endless stupidity of capitalist morons refusing to
accept responsibility for the bullshit they preach...
which ofc is expected. a honest person cannot hold the positions
of sheeplefried capitalists.
I'm not even that attached to the idea of nation-states and kind >>>>>>> of like the idea of free places that are outside of the nation- >>>>>>> state.
In any case, no place is obligated to accept everyone that wants >>>>>>> to go there. The current citizens get a say in the matter.
you _are_ the fucking problem wilson. if the richest country on
the planet can't "afford" basic freedom of movement, then how in
the fuck do you expect others to follow???
ur pathetic "well-wishings" are meaningless platitudes compares to >>>>>> the subethical positions you hold, which are directly causal in
chaining 7/8 people on the planet to the nation states of their
birth, something they have _zero_ choice
Go get your consensus and then get back to me.
why do i have to fix the mess the coercive mess your fucking ungodly
ideology created???
where do u think ur next life will end up, eh???
you could start by advocating for it as a problem instead of endlessly
denying it's a problem u stupid fuck
On 8/11/2026 3:04 PM, dart200 wrote:
On 8/11/26 1:53 PM, Dude wrote:Like I said:
On 8/11/2026 1:40 PM, dart200 wrote:
On 8/11/26 11:57 AM, Dude wrote:There's just not much an individual ...
On 8/10/2026 9:55 PM, dart200 wrote:
On 8/10/26 5:20 PM, Dude wrote:We studied this in school: The French Revolution
On 8/10/2026 1:06 PM, dart200 wrote:
On 8/10/26 9:26 AM, Wilson wrote:We studied...
On 8/10/2026 12:03 PM, Noah Sombrero wrote:
On Mon, 10 Aug 2026 11:43:59 -0400, Wilson
<Wilson@nowhere.invalid>
wrote:
On 8/9/2026 6:12 PM, dart200 wrote:
On 8/9/26 11:28 AM, Wilson wrote:
On 8/9/2026 1:34 PM, dart200 wrote:
On 8/9/26 8:45 AM, Wilson wrote:Self-defense is not the initiation of violence, and as it >>>>>>>>>>>>> is oriented
At its core, free enterprise and a market economy can be >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> reduced in
many ways to an economic ideology centered around private >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> property.
It gives me extraordinary joy to see how our founders, in >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> writing
the Declaration of Independence, declared that all men >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> were "endowed
by their Creator with certain unalienable rights, among >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> them are
life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness."
Here, the founders took the natural rights John Locke >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote about in
his Second Treatise of Government in 1690 rCo "lives, >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> liberties, and
estates, which I call by the general name, property," and >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> broadened
it.-a They presupposed that property was necessary for >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> liberty and
that the greater aspiration behind private property was >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> "pursuit of
happiness" (what we call "human flourishing" in my >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> tradition).
Just weeks before the Declaration of Independence was >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> written,
George Mason had codified in the Virginia Declaration of >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Rights that
"the enjoyment of life and liberty, with the means of >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> acquiring and
possessing property" were predicates to "pursuing and >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> obtaining
happiness and safety."-a The founding fathers were not >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> waxing and
waning philosophically rCo well, they were not /only/ doing >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> that rCo
they were expressing the lived experience of the settlers >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> in the new
world.
The lived experience that served as the bedrock of our >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> nation was
one of private ownership driving incentives, of communal >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ownership
discouraging productive work, and one where resentment was >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> inevitable when rewards were equal, but effort was not. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Communal
ownership of property had failed in practice because it >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> was first a
failed theory.
Private property is a natural right that flows from our >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ability to
earn, hold, possess, retain, and manage the fruits of our >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> own labor.
It produces responsibility, stewardship, and abundance >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> that align
with human nature.
David L. Bahnsen
i love how capitalists love to jerk themselves off about >>>>>>>>>>>>>> freedom and
flourishing endlessly while ignoring the fact 7/8 are >>>>>>>>>>>>>> enslaved to a
nation-state system that coercively interferes with basic >>>>>>>>>>>>>> freedom of
movement
this world is a travesty of authoritarian control all you >>>>>>>>>>>>>> can do is
keep crying endlessly about private property, as violently >>>>>>>>>>>>>> owning
stuff is the _only_ principle you actually care about >>>>>>>>>>>>>
towards the protection of life and the thriving of the >>>>>>>>>>>>> human person,
it is a natural human right.
you are _not_ your property
Property as gained by the effort and work of a human being is >>>>>>>>>>>>> inherently a part of that person's life. As such, defense >>>>>>>>>>>>> of that
property is also a human right.
even the person who first came up with that predicated that >>>>>>>>>>>> right to
mixing labor with land to claim property, on there being >>>>>>>>>>>> enough common
lands left for all to utilize...
which we've gone so far past that you want to keep 7/8 >>>>>>>>>>>> people on this
planet chained to the nation state they were born in without >>>>>>>>>>>> even the
permission to leave.
Anyone who attempts to take away one's property or other >>>>>>>>>>>>> natural
rights is an enabler of tyranny, and therefore an enemy of >>>>>>>>>>>>> life and of
humanity.
I'm not keeping them in their home countries. They just can't >>>>>>>>>>> all come
here, that's all.
Ok, lets change the wording a little.
"you want to keep 7/8 people on this
planet chained to nation states where they can have no future, >>>>>>>>>> no hope
of improvement in their lives without even the permission to go >>>>>>>>>> somewhere better."
No, I don't want to keep them "chained to nation states". As >>>>>>>>> far as I'm concerned they are free to go anywhere that's
willing to accept them.
my god the endless stupidity of capitalist morons refusing to >>>>>>>> accept responsibility for the bullshit they preach...
i don't care what u studied you stupid fucking dip shit
The revolution ended noble land monopolies and peasant dues in
1789.. Established private property as a basic human right. How?
Like I said: 99.9% of all people live in nation states. There only
the reality is 7/8 are enslaved to their nation states cause of ur >>>>>> perverse obsession with violently owning stuff
a very tiny minority of people that are stateless.
So, let me say this:go fuck yourself with a knife and die already
By abolishing feudal land rights and establishing legal protections >>>>> for individual ownership in the Declaration of the Rights of Man.
go fuck yourself with a knife and die already dud
you could be arguing against idiots like wilson instead of supporting
him you stupid moron
go fuck yourself with a knife and die already dud
There's just not much an individual can do to alter the private monetary system of free market capitalism. Over 99.9 of all nation states are in
the system 100% of all people n the planet are in it for the money.
We studied this in school: The French Revolution
The French Revolution ended noble land monopolies and peasant dues in
1789.. Established private property as a basic human right. How?
By abolishing feudal land rights and establishing legal protections for individual ownership in the Declaration of the Rights of Man.
By abolishing feudal land rights and establishing legal protections for individual ownership in the Declaration of the Rights of Man.
The United Nations explicitly states that humans have rights from birth
in Article 1 of the Universal Declaration of Human Rights, which
proclaims that "all human beings are born free and equal in dignity and rights."
Like I said:
99.9% of all people live in nation states. There only a very tiny
minority of people that are stateless, so go fuck yourself.
On 8/11/2026 1:45 PM, dart200 wrote:
On 8/11/26 11:52 AM, Dude wrote:We studied this in Elementary School:
On 8/10/2026 9:56 PM, dart200 wrote:
On 8/10/26 5:25 PM, Dude wrote:Like I said:
On 8/10/2026 2:41 PM, dart200 wrote:
On 8/10/26 2:36 PM, Dude wrote:Like I said:
On 8/10/2026 11:37 AM, dart200 wrote:
On 8/10/26 10:37 AM, Dude wrote:When the United Nations General Assembly adopted the Universal
On 8/9/2026 3:39 PM, dart200 wrote:
On 8/9/26 3:21 PM, Dude wrote:You are incorrect. 99.9% of all people on earth live in nation >>>>>>>>> states.
On 8/9/2026 10:34 AM, dart200 wrote:
On 8/9/26 8:45 AM, Wilson wrote:You are not responsible for anyone jerking themselves off, or >>>>>>>>>>> not.
At its core, free enterprise and a market economy can be >>>>>>>>>>>>> reduced in many ways to an economic ideology centered >>>>>>>>>>>>> around private property. It gives me extraordinary joy to >>>>>>>>>>>>> see how our founders, in writing the Declaration of >>>>>>>>>>>>> Independence, declared that all men were "endowed by their >>>>>>>>>>>>> Creator with certain unalienable rights, among them are >>>>>>>>>>>>> life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness."
Here, the founders took the natural rights John Locke wrote >>>>>>>>>>>>> about in his Second Treatise of Government in 1690 rCo >>>>>>>>>>>>> "lives, liberties, and estates, which I call by the general >>>>>>>>>>>>> name, property," and broadened it.-a They presupposed that >>>>>>>>>>>>> property was necessary for liberty and that the greater >>>>>>>>>>>>> aspiration behind private property was "pursuit of
happiness" (what we call "human flourishing" in my tradition). >>>>>>>>>>>>>
Just weeks before the Declaration of Independence was >>>>>>>>>>>>> written, George Mason had codified in the Virginia
Declaration of Rights that "the enjoyment of life and >>>>>>>>>>>>> liberty, with the means of acquiring and possessing >>>>>>>>>>>>> property" were predicates to "pursuing and obtaining >>>>>>>>>>>>> happiness and safety."-a The founding fathers were not >>>>>>>>>>>>> waxing and waning philosophically rCo well, they were not / >>>>>>>>>>>>> only/ doing that rCo they were expressing the lived >>>>>>>>>>>>> experience of the settlers in the new world.
The lived experience that served as the bedrock of our >>>>>>>>>>>>> nation was one of private ownership driving incentives, of >>>>>>>>>>>>> communal ownership discouraging productive work, and one >>>>>>>>>>>>> where resentment was inevitable when rewards were equal, >>>>>>>>>>>>> but effort was not. Communal ownership of property had >>>>>>>>>>>>> failed in practice because it was first a failed theory. >>>>>>>>>>>>>
Private property is a natural right that flows from our >>>>>>>>>>>>> ability to earn, hold, possess, retain, and manage the >>>>>>>>>>>>> fruits of our own labor. It produces responsibility, >>>>>>>>>>>>> stewardship, and abundance that align with human nature. >>>>>>>>>>>>>
David L. Bahnsen
i love how capitalists love to jerk themselves off about >>>>>>>>>>>> freedom and flourishing endlessly while ignoring the fact >>>>>>>>>>>> 7/8 are enslaved to a nation-state system that coercively >>>>>>>>>>>> interferes with basic freedom of movement
You are responsible only for your own jerking off - hopefully >>>>>>>>>>> at home on your own time, maybe in the bathroom. Hopefully >>>>>>>>>>> nobody is forcing you to stoop to self abuse, but that
happens in marriage, especially just after giving birth. YMMV. >>>>>>>>>>> -a>
this world is a travesty of authoritarian control all you >>>>>>>>>>>> can do is keep crying endlessly about private property, as >>>>>>>>>>>> violently owning stuff is the _only_ principle you actually >>>>>>>>>>>> care aboutYou have my sympathies. It's tough getting cut off! Remember, >>>>>>>>>>> you have a human right to pleasure yourself!
It's nothing to be ashamed of, Nick.
-a-a> what disgustingly creepy inhumane fuck you are
Hope this helps.
-a-a> #god
nice how you just ignored how capitalism went and chained 7/8 >>>>>>>>>> people of the entire planet to their respective nation states >>>>>>>>>> in service of the only principle they actually care about: >>>>>>>>>> private property
you are retarded
You snipped this out:
The United Nations explicitly states that humans have rights >>>>>>>>> from birth in Article 1 of the Universal Declaration of Human >>>>>>>>> Rights, which proclaims that "all human beings are born free >>>>>>>>> and equal in dignity and rights".
well we've clearly failed to achieve that since most humans are >>>>>>>> chained to their nation states and lack equal freedom of movement >>>>>>>>
Declaration of Human Rights, out of the 58 member states at the >>>>>>> time, 48 voted in favor, none voted against, 8 abstained, and 2 >>>>>>> were absent.
fuck you you dumb boomer cuntYou snipped something out and cross-posted. Let me repeat:
We studied this in school: The French Revolution
The revolution ended noble land monopolies and peasant dues in >>>>>>>>> 1789.. Established private property as a basic human right. How? >>>>>>>>>
By abolishing feudal land rights and establishing legal
protections for individual ownership in the Declaration of the >>>>>>>>> Rights of Man.
see what i mean? ur still defending property instead of
addressing the fact 7/8 on this planet are not free enough to >>>>>>>> simply walk around freely
The 8 Abstaining Countries:
Saudi Arabia (objected to certain articles, such as freedom of
religion and the right to change one's religion, viewing them as >>>>>>> contrary to Islamic law)South Africa (abstained due to its
apartheid system, which conflicted with the declaration's
principles on racial equality)
Soviet Union
Belarus
Ukrainian
Czechoslovakia
Poland
is this supposed to somehow defend the rest of world which hasn't >>>>>> managed basic freedom or movement??? idgaf what anyone signed dud, >>>>>>
ur an absolute fucking unrepentant sinner unworthy of the air you
breath dud. find a grave and sit in it
choke on a large dick until you die u subhuman ape
On 8/11/26 3:33 PM, Dude wrote:
On 8/11/2026 3:04 PM, dart200 wrote:
On 8/11/26 1:53 PM, Dude wrote:Like I said:
On 8/11/2026 1:40 PM, dart200 wrote:
On 8/11/26 11:57 AM, Dude wrote:There's just not much an individual ...
On 8/10/2026 9:55 PM, dart200 wrote:
On 8/10/26 5:20 PM, Dude wrote:We studied this in school: The French Revolution
On 8/10/2026 1:06 PM, dart200 wrote:
On 8/10/26 9:26 AM, Wilson wrote:We studied...
On 8/10/2026 12:03 PM, Noah Sombrero wrote:
On Mon, 10 Aug 2026 11:43:59 -0400, Wilson
<Wilson@nowhere.invalid>
wrote:
On 8/9/2026 6:12 PM, dart200 wrote:
On 8/9/26 11:28 AM, Wilson wrote:
On 8/9/2026 1:34 PM, dart200 wrote:
On 8/9/26 8:45 AM, Wilson wrote:Self-defense is not the initiation of violence, and as it >>>>>>>>>>>>>> is oriented
At its core, free enterprise and a market economy can be >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> reduced in
many ways to an economic ideology centered around >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> private property.
It gives me extraordinary joy to see how our founders, >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> in writing
the Declaration of Independence, declared that all men >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> were "endowed
by their Creator with certain unalienable rights, among >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> them are
life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness."
Here, the founders took the natural rights John Locke >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote about in
his Second Treatise of Government in 1690 rCo "lives, >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> liberties, and
estates, which I call by the general name, property," >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> and broadened
it.-a They presupposed that property was necessary for >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> liberty and
that the greater aspiration behind private property was >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> "pursuit of
happiness" (what we call "human flourishing" in my >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> tradition).
Just weeks before the Declaration of Independence was >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> written,
George Mason had codified in the Virginia Declaration of >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Rights that
"the enjoyment of life and liberty, with the means of >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> acquiring and
possessing property" were predicates to "pursuing and >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> obtaining
happiness and safety."-a The founding fathers were not >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> waxing and
waning philosophically rCo well, they were not /only/ >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> doing that rCo
they were expressing the lived experience of the >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> settlers in the new
world.
The lived experience that served as the bedrock of our >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> nation was
one of private ownership driving incentives, of communal >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ownership
discouraging productive work, and one where resentment was >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> inevitable when rewards were equal, but effort was not. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Communal
ownership of property had failed in practice because it >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> was first a
failed theory.
Private property is a natural right that flows from our >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ability to
earn, hold, possess, retain, and manage the fruits of >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> our own labor.
It produces responsibility, stewardship, and abundance >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> that align
with human nature.
David L. Bahnsen
i love how capitalists love to jerk themselves off about >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> freedom and
flourishing endlessly while ignoring the fact 7/8 are >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> enslaved to a
nation-state system that coercively interferes with basic >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> freedom of
movement
this world is a travesty of authoritarian control all you >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> can do is
keep crying endlessly about private property, as >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> violently owning
stuff is the _only_ principle you actually care about >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
towards the protection of life and the thriving of the >>>>>>>>>>>>>> human person,
it is a natural human right.
you are _not_ your property
Property as gained by the effort and work of a human being is >>>>>>>>>>>>>> inherently a part of that person's life. As such, defense >>>>>>>>>>>>>> of that
property is also a human right.
even the person who first came up with that predicated that >>>>>>>>>>>>> right to
mixing labor with land to claim property, on there being >>>>>>>>>>>>> enough common
lands left for all to utilize...
which we've gone so far past that you want to keep 7/8 >>>>>>>>>>>>> people on this
planet chained to the nation state they were born in >>>>>>>>>>>>> without even the
permission to leave.
Anyone who attempts to take away one's property or other >>>>>>>>>>>>>> natural
rights is an enabler of tyranny, and therefore an enemy of >>>>>>>>>>>>>> life and of
humanity.
I'm not keeping them in their home countries. They just >>>>>>>>>>>> can't all come
here, that's all.
Ok, lets change the wording a little.
"you want to keep 7/8 people on this
planet chained to nation states where they can have no
future, no hope
of improvement in their lives without even the permission to go >>>>>>>>>>> somewhere better."
No, I don't want to keep them "chained to nation states". As >>>>>>>>>> far as I'm concerned they are free to go anywhere that's
willing to accept them.
my god the endless stupidity of capitalist morons refusing to >>>>>>>>> accept responsibility for the bullshit they preach...
i don't care what u studied you stupid fucking dip shit
The revolution ended noble land monopolies and peasant dues in
1789.. Established private property as a basic human right. How?
Like I said: 99.9% of all people live in nation states. There only >>>>>> a very tiny minority of people that are stateless.
the reality is 7/8 are enslaved to their nation states cause of >>>>>>> ur perverse obsession with violently owning stuff
So, let me say this:go fuck yourself with a knife and die already
By abolishing feudal land rights and establishing legal
protections for individual ownership in the Declaration of the
Rights of Man.
go fuck yourself with a knife and die already dud
you could be arguing against idiots like wilson instead of supporting
him you stupid moron
go fuck yourself with a knife and die already dud
There's just not much an individual can do to alter the private
monetary system of free market capitalism. Over 99.9 of all nation
states are in the system 100% of all people n the planet are in it for
the money.
We studied this in school: The French Revolution
The French Revolution ended noble land monopolies and peasant dues in
1789.. Established private property as a basic human right. How?
By abolishing feudal land rights and establishing legal protections
for individual ownership in the Declaration of the Rights of Man.
By abolishing feudal land rights and establishing legal protections
for individual ownership in the Declaration of the Rights of Man.
The United Nations explicitly states that humans have rights from
birth in Article 1 of the Universal Declaration of Human Rights, which
proclaims that "all human beings are born free and equal in dignity
and rights."
Like I said:
99.9% of all people live in nation states. There only a very tiny
minority of people that are stateless, so go fuck yourself.
go fuck myself because ur fucking brain dead ideology went and
established a system which has enslaved 7/8 to working only within the nation state they happened to born in???
and you shrug it off by quoting things that don't even make sense??? IT DOESN'T MATTER WHAT ANYONE SIGNED IF PEOPLE AREN'T ACTUALLY FREE YOU
STUPID FUCK, SO STOP BRINGING IT UP!
stop telling me you can't do anything when you spent so many posts
aruging wE cAnT oPeN tHe bOrDeRs, ThAt wOuLd Be uNFaIr?!?!?!
you can _start_ by being on the right side of history instead of wrong
On 8/11/26 3:38 PM, Dude wrote:
On 8/11/2026 3:05 PM, dart200 wrote:
On 8/11/26 2:02 PM, Dude wrote:Obviously, extended conflicts and foreign entanglements lead to bigger
On 8/11/2026 1:43 PM, dart200 wrote:
On 8/11/26 11:49 AM, Dude wrote:Let me be clear:
On 8/11/2026 10:35 AM, Wilson wrote:
On 8/10/2026 4:06 PM, dart200 wrote:Over 99.9% of all people live in nation states. It's up to them to >>>>>> take care of their own, or not.
On 8/10/26 9:26 AM, Wilson wrote:
On 8/10/2026 12:03 PM, Noah Sombrero wrote:
On Mon, 10 Aug 2026 11:43:59 -0400, Wilson
<Wilson@nowhere.invalid>
wrote:
On 8/9/2026 6:12 PM, dart200 wrote:
On 8/9/26 11:28 AM, Wilson wrote:
On 8/9/2026 1:34 PM, dart200 wrote:
On 8/9/26 8:45 AM, Wilson wrote:Self-defense is not the initiation of violence, and as it >>>>>>>>>>>>> is oriented
At its core, free enterprise and a market economy can be >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> reduced in
many ways to an economic ideology centered around private >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> property.
It gives me extraordinary joy to see how our founders, in >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> writing
the Declaration of Independence, declared that all men >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> were "endowed
by their Creator with certain unalienable rights, among >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> them are
life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness."
Here, the founders took the natural rights John Locke >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote about in
his Second Treatise of Government in 1690 rCo "lives, >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> liberties, and
estates, which I call by the general name, property," and >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> broadened
it.-a They presupposed that property was necessary for >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> liberty and
that the greater aspiration behind private property was >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> "pursuit of
happiness" (what we call "human flourishing" in my >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> tradition).
Just weeks before the Declaration of Independence was >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> written,
George Mason had codified in the Virginia Declaration of >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Rights that
"the enjoyment of life and liberty, with the means of >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> acquiring and
possessing property" were predicates to "pursuing and >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> obtaining
happiness and safety."-a The founding fathers were not >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> waxing and
waning philosophically rCo well, they were not /only/ doing >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> that rCo
they were expressing the lived experience of the settlers >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> in the new
world.
The lived experience that served as the bedrock of our >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> nation was
one of private ownership driving incentives, of communal >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ownership
discouraging productive work, and one where resentment was >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> inevitable when rewards were equal, but effort was not. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Communal
ownership of property had failed in practice because it >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> was first a
failed theory.
Private property is a natural right that flows from our >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ability to
earn, hold, possess, retain, and manage the fruits of our >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> own labor.
It produces responsibility, stewardship, and abundance >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> that align
with human nature.
David L. Bahnsen
i love how capitalists love to jerk themselves off about >>>>>>>>>>>>>> freedom and
flourishing endlessly while ignoring the fact 7/8 are >>>>>>>>>>>>>> enslaved to a
nation-state system that coercively interferes with basic >>>>>>>>>>>>>> freedom of
movement
this world is a travesty of authoritarian control all you >>>>>>>>>>>>>> can do is
keep crying endlessly about private property, as violently >>>>>>>>>>>>>> owning
stuff is the _only_ principle you actually care about >>>>>>>>>>>>>
towards the protection of life and the thriving of the >>>>>>>>>>>>> human person,
it is a natural human right.
you are _not_ your property
Property as gained by the effort and work of a human being is >>>>>>>>>>>>> inherently a part of that person's life. As such, defense >>>>>>>>>>>>> of that
property is also a human right.
even the person who first came up with that predicated that >>>>>>>>>>>> right to
mixing labor with land to claim property, on there being >>>>>>>>>>>> enough common
lands left for all to utilize...
which we've gone so far past that you want to keep 7/8 >>>>>>>>>>>> people on this
planet chained to the nation state they were born in without >>>>>>>>>>>> even the
permission to leave.
Anyone who attempts to take away one's property or other >>>>>>>>>>>>> natural
rights is an enabler of tyranny, and therefore an enemy of >>>>>>>>>>>>> life and of
humanity.
I'm not keeping them in their home countries. They just can't >>>>>>>>>>> all come
here, that's all.
Ok, lets change the wording a little.
"you want to keep 7/8 people on this
planet chained to nation states where they can have no future, >>>>>>>>>> no hope
of improvement in their lives without even the permission to go >>>>>>>>>> somewhere better."
No, I don't want to keep them "chained to nation states". As >>>>>>>>> far as I'm concerned they are free to go anywhere that's
willing to accept them.
my god the endless stupidity of capitalist morons refusing to >>>>>>>> accept responsibility for the bullshit they preach...
which ofc is expected. a honest person cannot hold the positions >>>>>>>> of sheeplefried capitalists.
you _are_ the fucking problem wilson. if the richest country on >>>>>>>> the planet can't "afford" basic freedom of movement, then how in >>>>>>>> the fuck do you expect others to follow???
I'm not even that attached to the idea of nation-states and >>>>>>>>> kind of like the idea of free places that are outside of the >>>>>>>>> nation- state.
In any case, no place is obligated to accept everyone that
wants to go there. The current citizens get a say in the matter. >>>>>>>>
ur pathetic "well-wishings" are meaningless platitudes compares >>>>>>>> to the subethical positions you hold, which are directly causal >>>>>>>> in chaining 7/8 people on the planet to the nation states of
their birth, something they have _zero_ choice
Go get your consensus and then get back to me.
The US has no business interfering with any nation states and
their private property or internal affairs.
the US spent most a century interfering with internal affairs to
ensure private property stands as a global norm, no matter the
cost. it's the _only_ thing u fucking braindead apes care about
Libertarians strongly support staying out of international wars and
so why'd u elect trump dumbass?
foreign affairs. We believe in a foreign policy of non-intervention,
peaceful trade, and a strong national defense - rather than foreign
military involvement or nation-building.
you don't even believe in ending tariffs let alone opening borders
government power, higher taxes, and a loss of personal freedoms at home.
Take care of your own business.
part of my business is ensuring i keep arguing for a better world for my son, u halfwit retard
On 8/11/26 3:42 PM, Dude wrote:
On 8/11/2026 3:06 PM, dart200 wrote:
On 8/11/26 2:12 PM, Dude wrote:You came here for enlightenment?
On 8/11/2026 1:44 PM, dart200 wrote:you could start by advocating for it as a problem instead of
On 8/11/26 10:35 AM, Wilson wrote:There's just not much an individual can do to fix the mess you created. >>>
On 8/10/2026 4:06 PM, dart200 wrote:
On 8/10/26 9:26 AM, Wilson wrote:
On 8/10/2026 12:03 PM, Noah Sombrero wrote:
On Mon, 10 Aug 2026 11:43:59 -0400, Wilson
<Wilson@nowhere.invalid>
wrote:
On 8/9/2026 6:12 PM, dart200 wrote:
On 8/9/26 11:28 AM, Wilson wrote:
On 8/9/2026 1:34 PM, dart200 wrote:
On 8/9/26 8:45 AM, Wilson wrote:Self-defense is not the initiation of violence, and as it is >>>>>>>>>>>> oriented
At its core, free enterprise and a market economy can be >>>>>>>>>>>>>> reduced in
many ways to an economic ideology centered around private >>>>>>>>>>>>>> property.
It gives me extraordinary joy to see how our founders, in >>>>>>>>>>>>>> writing
the Declaration of Independence, declared that all men >>>>>>>>>>>>>> were "endowed
by their Creator with certain unalienable rights, among >>>>>>>>>>>>>> them are
life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness."
Here, the founders took the natural rights John Locke >>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote about in
his Second Treatise of Government in 1690 rCo "lives, >>>>>>>>>>>>>> liberties, and
estates, which I call by the general name, property," and >>>>>>>>>>>>>> broadened
it.-a They presupposed that property was necessary for >>>>>>>>>>>>>> liberty and
that the greater aspiration behind private property was >>>>>>>>>>>>>> "pursuit of
happiness" (what we call "human flourishing" in my >>>>>>>>>>>>>> tradition).
Just weeks before the Declaration of Independence was >>>>>>>>>>>>>> written,
George Mason had codified in the Virginia Declaration of >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Rights that
"the enjoyment of life and liberty, with the means of >>>>>>>>>>>>>> acquiring and
possessing property" were predicates to "pursuing and >>>>>>>>>>>>>> obtaining
happiness and safety."-a The founding fathers were not >>>>>>>>>>>>>> waxing and
waning philosophically rCo well, they were not /only/ doing >>>>>>>>>>>>>> that rCo
they were expressing the lived experience of the settlers >>>>>>>>>>>>>> in the new
world.
The lived experience that served as the bedrock of our >>>>>>>>>>>>>> nation was
one of private ownership driving incentives, of communal >>>>>>>>>>>>>> ownership
discouraging productive work, and one where resentment was >>>>>>>>>>>>>> inevitable when rewards were equal, but effort was not. >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Communal
ownership of property had failed in practice because it >>>>>>>>>>>>>> was first a
failed theory.
Private property is a natural right that flows from our >>>>>>>>>>>>>> ability to
earn, hold, possess, retain, and manage the fruits of our >>>>>>>>>>>>>> own labor.
It produces responsibility, stewardship, and abundance >>>>>>>>>>>>>> that align
with human nature.
David L. Bahnsen
i love how capitalists love to jerk themselves off about >>>>>>>>>>>>> freedom and
flourishing endlessly while ignoring the fact 7/8 are >>>>>>>>>>>>> enslaved to a
nation-state system that coercively interferes with basic >>>>>>>>>>>>> freedom of
movement
this world is a travesty of authoritarian control all you >>>>>>>>>>>>> can do is
keep crying endlessly about private property, as violently >>>>>>>>>>>>> owning
stuff is the _only_ principle you actually care about >>>>>>>>>>>>
towards the protection of life and the thriving of the human >>>>>>>>>>>> person,
it is a natural human right.
you are _not_ your property
Property as gained by the effort and work of a human being is >>>>>>>>>>>> inherently a part of that person's life. As such, defense of >>>>>>>>>>>> that
property is also a human right.
even the person who first came up with that predicated that >>>>>>>>>>> right to
mixing labor with land to claim property, on there being >>>>>>>>>>> enough common
lands left for all to utilize...
which we've gone so far past that you want to keep 7/8 people >>>>>>>>>>> on this
planet chained to the nation state they were born in without >>>>>>>>>>> even the
permission to leave.
Anyone who attempts to take away one's property or other >>>>>>>>>>>> natural
rights is an enabler of tyranny, and therefore an enemy of >>>>>>>>>>>> life and of
humanity.
I'm not keeping them in their home countries. They just can't >>>>>>>>>> all come
here, that's all.
Ok, lets change the wording a little.
"you want to keep 7/8 people on this
planet chained to nation states where they can have no future, >>>>>>>>> no hope
of improvement in their lives without even the permission to go >>>>>>>>> somewhere better."
No, I don't want to keep them "chained to nation states". As far >>>>>>>> as I'm concerned they are free to go anywhere that's willing to >>>>>>>> accept them.
my god the endless stupidity of capitalist morons refusing to
accept responsibility for the bullshit they preach...
which ofc is expected. a honest person cannot hold the positions >>>>>>> of sheeplefried capitalists.
I'm not even that attached to the idea of nation-states and kind >>>>>>>> of like the idea of free places that are outside of the nation- >>>>>>>> state.
In any case, no place is obligated to accept everyone that wants >>>>>>>> to go there. The current citizens get a say in the matter.
you _are_ the fucking problem wilson. if the richest country on >>>>>>> the planet can't "afford" basic freedom of movement, then how in >>>>>>> the fuck do you expect others to follow???
ur pathetic "well-wishings" are meaningless platitudes compares >>>>>>> to the subethical positions you hold, which are directly causal >>>>>>> in chaining 7/8 people on the planet to the nation states of
their birth, something they have _zero_ choice
Go get your consensus and then get back to me.
why do i have to fix the mess the coercive mess your fucking
ungodly ideology created???
where do u think ur next life will end up, eh???
endlessly denying it's a problem u stupid fuck
there we do dud: i give a suggestion and you just pathetically duck it
cause we both know you don't give a single fuck that the "freedom" of capitalism is chaining 7/8 out people to their nation of birth
On 8/11/2026 4:18 PM, dart200 wrote:
On 8/11/26 3:33 PM, Dude wrote:Over 99.9% of all the people living on earth in nation states have
On 8/11/2026 3:04 PM, dart200 wrote:
On 8/11/26 1:53 PM, Dude wrote:Like I said:
On 8/11/2026 1:40 PM, dart200 wrote:
On 8/11/26 11:57 AM, Dude wrote:There's just not much an individual ...
On 8/10/2026 9:55 PM, dart200 wrote:
On 8/10/26 5:20 PM, Dude wrote:We studied this in school: The French Revolution
On 8/10/2026 1:06 PM, dart200 wrote:
On 8/10/26 9:26 AM, Wilson wrote:We studied...
On 8/10/2026 12:03 PM, Noah Sombrero wrote:
On Mon, 10 Aug 2026 11:43:59 -0400, Wilson
<Wilson@nowhere.invalid>
wrote:
On 8/9/2026 6:12 PM, dart200 wrote:
On 8/9/26 11:28 AM, Wilson wrote:
On 8/9/2026 1:34 PM, dart200 wrote:
On 8/9/26 8:45 AM, Wilson wrote:Self-defense is not the initiation of violence, and as it >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> is oriented
At its core, free enterprise and a market economy can >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> be reduced in
many ways to an economic ideology centered around >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> private property.
It gives me extraordinary joy to see how our founders, >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> in writing
the Declaration of Independence, declared that all men >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> were "endowed
by their Creator with certain unalienable rights, among >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> them are
life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness." >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
Here, the founders took the natural rights John Locke >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote about in
his Second Treatise of Government in 1690 rCo "lives, >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> liberties, and
estates, which I call by the general name, property," >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> and broadened
it.-a They presupposed that property was necessary for >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> liberty and
that the greater aspiration behind private property was >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> "pursuit of
happiness" (what we call "human flourishing" in my >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> tradition).
Just weeks before the Declaration of Independence was >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> written,
George Mason had codified in the Virginia Declaration >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> of Rights that
"the enjoyment of life and liberty, with the means of >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> acquiring and
possessing property" were predicates to "pursuing and >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> obtaining
happiness and safety."-a The founding fathers were not >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> waxing and
waning philosophically rCo well, they were not /only/ >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> doing that rCo
they were expressing the lived experience of the >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> settlers in the new
world.
The lived experience that served as the bedrock of our >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> nation was
one of private ownership driving incentives, of >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> communal ownership
discouraging productive work, and one where resentment was >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> inevitable when rewards were equal, but effort was not. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Communal
ownership of property had failed in practice because it >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> was first a
failed theory.
Private property is a natural right that flows from our >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ability to
earn, hold, possess, retain, and manage the fruits of >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> our own labor.
It produces responsibility, stewardship, and abundance >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> that align
with human nature.
David L. Bahnsen
i love how capitalists love to jerk themselves off about >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> freedom and
flourishing endlessly while ignoring the fact 7/8 are >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> enslaved to a
nation-state system that coercively interferes with >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> basic freedom of
movement
this world is a travesty of authoritarian control all >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> you can do is
keep crying endlessly about private property, as >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> violently owning
stuff is the _only_ principle you actually care about >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
towards the protection of life and the thriving of the >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> human person,
it is a natural human right.
you are _not_ your property
Property as gained by the effort and work of a human >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> being is
inherently a part of that person's life. As such, defense >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> of that
property is also a human right.
even the person who first came up with that predicated >>>>>>>>>>>>>> that right to
mixing labor with land to claim property, on there being >>>>>>>>>>>>>> enough common
lands left for all to utilize...
which we've gone so far past that you want to keep 7/8 >>>>>>>>>>>>>> people on this
planet chained to the nation state they were born in >>>>>>>>>>>>>> without even the
permission to leave.
Anyone who attempts to take away one's property or other >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> natural
rights is an enabler of tyranny, and therefore an enemy >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> of life and of
humanity.
I'm not keeping them in their home countries. They just >>>>>>>>>>>>> can't all come
here, that's all.
Ok, lets change the wording a little.
"you want to keep 7/8 people on this
planet chained to nation states where they can have no >>>>>>>>>>>> future, no hope
of improvement in their lives without even the permission to go >>>>>>>>>>>> somewhere better."
No, I don't want to keep them "chained to nation states". As >>>>>>>>>>> far as I'm concerned they are free to go anywhere that's >>>>>>>>>>> willing to accept them.
my god the endless stupidity of capitalist morons refusing to >>>>>>>>>> accept responsibility for the bullshit they preach...
i don't care what u studied you stupid fucking dip shit
The revolution ended noble land monopolies and peasant dues in
1789.. Established private property as a basic human right. How? >>>>>>> -a>
the reality is 7/8 are enslaved to their nation states cause of >>>>>>>> ur perverse obsession with violently owning stuffLike I said: 99.9% of all people live in nation states. There
only a very tiny minority of people that are stateless.
So, let me say this:go fuck yourself with a knife and die already
By abolishing feudal land rights and establishing legal
protections for individual ownership in the Declaration of the
Rights of Man.
go fuck yourself with a knife and die already dud
you could be arguing against idiots like wilson instead of
supporting him you stupid moron
go fuck yourself with a knife and die already dud
There's just not much an individual can do to alter the private
monetary system of free market capitalism. Over 99.9 of all nation
states are in the system 100% of all people n the planet are in it
for the money.
We studied this in school: The French Revolution
The French Revolution ended noble land monopolies and peasant dues in
1789.. Established private property as a basic human right. How?
By abolishing feudal land rights and establishing legal protections
for individual ownership in the Declaration of the Rights of Man.
By abolishing feudal land rights and establishing legal protections
for individual ownership in the Declaration of the Rights of Man.
The United Nations explicitly states that humans have rights from
birth in Article 1 of the Universal Declaration of Human Rights,
which proclaims that "all human beings are born free and equal in
dignity and rights."
Like I said:
99.9% of all people live in nation states. There only a very tiny
minority of people that are stateless, so go fuck yourself.
go fuck myself because ur fucking brain dead ideology went and
established a system which has enslaved 7/8 to working only within the
nation state they happened to born in???
personal property. That is their right if they are born within their own nation state. There are only a tiny number of people that are stateless
and even they possess personal property.
So, the consensus is, that it's your right to own personal property.
Karl Marx agreed.
and you shrug it off by quoting things that don't even make sense???So, the question is, are we free or are we bound?
IT DOESN'T MATTER WHAT ANYONE SIGNED IF PEOPLE AREN'T ACTUALLY FREE
YOU STUPID FUCK, SO STOP BRINGING IT UP!
If free, no worries. If bound, by what means can we free ourselves?
That is what we'll find out on this board.
stop telling me you can't do anything when you spent so many postsYou can't have open borders in a welfare state.
aruging wE cAnT oPeN tHe bOrDeRs, ThAt wOuLd Be uNFaIr?!?!?!
you can _start_ by being on the right side of history instead of wrongYou came here? To be on the right side of history?
On 8/11/2026 4:15 PM, dart200 wrote:
On 8/11/26 3:38 PM, Dude wrote:You came here to argue for a better wrld?
On 8/11/2026 3:05 PM, dart200 wrote:
On 8/11/26 2:02 PM, Dude wrote:Obviously, extended conflicts and foreign entanglements lead to
On 8/11/2026 1:43 PM, dart200 wrote:
On 8/11/26 11:49 AM, Dude wrote:Let me be clear:
On 8/11/2026 10:35 AM, Wilson wrote:
On 8/10/2026 4:06 PM, dart200 wrote:Over 99.9% of all people live in nation states. It's up to them >>>>>>> to take care of their own, or not.
On 8/10/26 9:26 AM, Wilson wrote:
On 8/10/2026 12:03 PM, Noah Sombrero wrote:
On Mon, 10 Aug 2026 11:43:59 -0400, Wilson
<Wilson@nowhere.invalid>
wrote:
On 8/9/2026 6:12 PM, dart200 wrote:
On 8/9/26 11:28 AM, Wilson wrote:
On 8/9/2026 1:34 PM, dart200 wrote:
On 8/9/26 8:45 AM, Wilson wrote:Self-defense is not the initiation of violence, and as it >>>>>>>>>>>>>> is oriented
At its core, free enterprise and a market economy can be >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> reduced in
many ways to an economic ideology centered around >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> private property.
It gives me extraordinary joy to see how our founders, >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> in writing
the Declaration of Independence, declared that all men >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> were "endowed
by their Creator with certain unalienable rights, among >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> them are
life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness."
Here, the founders took the natural rights John Locke >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote about in
his Second Treatise of Government in 1690 rCo "lives, >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> liberties, and
estates, which I call by the general name, property," >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> and broadened
it.-a They presupposed that property was necessary for >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> liberty and
that the greater aspiration behind private property was >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> "pursuit of
happiness" (what we call "human flourishing" in my >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> tradition).
Just weeks before the Declaration of Independence was >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> written,
George Mason had codified in the Virginia Declaration of >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Rights that
"the enjoyment of life and liberty, with the means of >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> acquiring and
possessing property" were predicates to "pursuing and >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> obtaining
happiness and safety."-a The founding fathers were not >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> waxing and
waning philosophically rCo well, they were not /only/ >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> doing that rCo
they were expressing the lived experience of the >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> settlers in the new
world.
The lived experience that served as the bedrock of our >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> nation was
one of private ownership driving incentives, of communal >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ownership
discouraging productive work, and one where resentment was >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> inevitable when rewards were equal, but effort was not. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Communal
ownership of property had failed in practice because it >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> was first a
failed theory.
Private property is a natural right that flows from our >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ability to
earn, hold, possess, retain, and manage the fruits of >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> our own labor.
It produces responsibility, stewardship, and abundance >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> that align
with human nature.
David L. Bahnsen
i love how capitalists love to jerk themselves off about >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> freedom and
flourishing endlessly while ignoring the fact 7/8 are >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> enslaved to a
nation-state system that coercively interferes with basic >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> freedom of
movement
this world is a travesty of authoritarian control all you >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> can do is
keep crying endlessly about private property, as >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> violently owning
stuff is the _only_ principle you actually care about >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
towards the protection of life and the thriving of the >>>>>>>>>>>>>> human person,
it is a natural human right.
you are _not_ your property
Property as gained by the effort and work of a human being is >>>>>>>>>>>>>> inherently a part of that person's life. As such, defense >>>>>>>>>>>>>> of that
property is also a human right.
even the person who first came up with that predicated that >>>>>>>>>>>>> right to
mixing labor with land to claim property, on there being >>>>>>>>>>>>> enough common
lands left for all to utilize...
which we've gone so far past that you want to keep 7/8 >>>>>>>>>>>>> people on this
planet chained to the nation state they were born in >>>>>>>>>>>>> without even the
permission to leave.
Anyone who attempts to take away one's property or other >>>>>>>>>>>>>> natural
rights is an enabler of tyranny, and therefore an enemy of >>>>>>>>>>>>>> life and of
humanity.
I'm not keeping them in their home countries. They just >>>>>>>>>>>> can't all come
here, that's all.
Ok, lets change the wording a little.
"you want to keep 7/8 people on this
planet chained to nation states where they can have no
future, no hope
of improvement in their lives without even the permission to go >>>>>>>>>>> somewhere better."
No, I don't want to keep them "chained to nation states". As >>>>>>>>>> far as I'm concerned they are free to go anywhere that's
willing to accept them.
my god the endless stupidity of capitalist morons refusing to >>>>>>>>> accept responsibility for the bullshit they preach...
which ofc is expected. a honest person cannot hold the
positions of sheeplefried capitalists.
you _are_ the fucking problem wilson. if the richest country on >>>>>>>>> the planet can't "afford" basic freedom of movement, then how >>>>>>>>> in the fuck do you expect others to follow???
I'm not even that attached to the idea of nation-states and >>>>>>>>>> kind of like the idea of free places that are outside of the >>>>>>>>>> nation- state.
In any case, no place is obligated to accept everyone that >>>>>>>>>> wants to go there. The current citizens get a say in the matter. >>>>>>>>>
ur pathetic "well-wishings" are meaningless platitudes compares >>>>>>>>> to the subethical positions you hold, which are directly causal >>>>>>>>> in chaining 7/8 people on the planet to the nation states of >>>>>>>>> their birth, something they have _zero_ choice
Go get your consensus and then get back to me.
The US has no business interfering with any nation states and
their private property or internal affairs.
the US spent most a century interfering with internal affairs to
ensure private property stands as a global norm, no matter the
cost. it's the _only_ thing u fucking braindead apes care about
Libertarians strongly support staying out of international wars and
so why'd u elect trump dumbass?
foreign affairs. We believe in a foreign policy of non-
intervention, peaceful trade, and a strong national defense -
rather than foreign military involvement or nation-building.
you don't even believe in ending tariffs let alone opening borders
bigger government power, higher taxes, and a loss of personal
freedoms at home.
Take care of your own business.
part of my business is ensuring i keep arguing for a better world for
my son, u halfwit retard
Conservative libertarians argue that military force is strictly
legitimate only for direct national self-defense.
They apply the non-aggression principle to foreign policy, maintaining
that a nationrColike an individualrCohas an absolute right to use proportional violence to repel an overt, active invasion, but cannot
justify pre-emptive wars, foreign interventionism, or empire-building.
On 8/11/2026 4:17 PM, dart200 wrote:
On 8/11/26 3:42 PM, Dude wrote:Over 99.9% of all the people living in nation states support capitalism
On 8/11/2026 3:06 PM, dart200 wrote:
On 8/11/26 2:12 PM, Dude wrote:You came here for enlightenment?
On 8/11/2026 1:44 PM, dart200 wrote:
On 8/11/26 10:35 AM, Wilson wrote:There's just not much an individual can do to fix the mess you
On 8/10/2026 4:06 PM, dart200 wrote:
On 8/10/26 9:26 AM, Wilson wrote:
On 8/10/2026 12:03 PM, Noah Sombrero wrote:
On Mon, 10 Aug 2026 11:43:59 -0400, Wilson
<Wilson@nowhere.invalid>
wrote:
On 8/9/2026 6:12 PM, dart200 wrote:
On 8/9/26 11:28 AM, Wilson wrote:
On 8/9/2026 1:34 PM, dart200 wrote:
On 8/9/26 8:45 AM, Wilson wrote:Self-defense is not the initiation of violence, and as it >>>>>>>>>>>>> is oriented
At its core, free enterprise and a market economy can be >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> reduced in
many ways to an economic ideology centered around private >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> property.
It gives me extraordinary joy to see how our founders, in >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> writing
the Declaration of Independence, declared that all men >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> were "endowed
by their Creator with certain unalienable rights, among >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> them are
life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness."
Here, the founders took the natural rights John Locke >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote about in
his Second Treatise of Government in 1690 rCo "lives, >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> liberties, and
estates, which I call by the general name, property," and >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> broadened
it.-a They presupposed that property was necessary for >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> liberty and
that the greater aspiration behind private property was >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> "pursuit of
happiness" (what we call "human flourishing" in my >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> tradition).
Just weeks before the Declaration of Independence was >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> written,
George Mason had codified in the Virginia Declaration of >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Rights that
"the enjoyment of life and liberty, with the means of >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> acquiring and
possessing property" were predicates to "pursuing and >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> obtaining
happiness and safety."-a The founding fathers were not >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> waxing and
waning philosophically rCo well, they were not /only/ doing >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> that rCo
they were expressing the lived experience of the settlers >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> in the new
world.
The lived experience that served as the bedrock of our >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> nation was
one of private ownership driving incentives, of communal >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ownership
discouraging productive work, and one where resentment was >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> inevitable when rewards were equal, but effort was not. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Communal
ownership of property had failed in practice because it >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> was first a
failed theory.
Private property is a natural right that flows from our >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ability to
earn, hold, possess, retain, and manage the fruits of our >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> own labor.
It produces responsibility, stewardship, and abundance >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> that align
with human nature.
David L. Bahnsen
i love how capitalists love to jerk themselves off about >>>>>>>>>>>>>> freedom and
flourishing endlessly while ignoring the fact 7/8 are >>>>>>>>>>>>>> enslaved to a
nation-state system that coercively interferes with basic >>>>>>>>>>>>>> freedom of
movement
this world is a travesty of authoritarian control all you >>>>>>>>>>>>>> can do is
keep crying endlessly about private property, as violently >>>>>>>>>>>>>> owning
stuff is the _only_ principle you actually care about >>>>>>>>>>>>>
towards the protection of life and the thriving of the >>>>>>>>>>>>> human person,
it is a natural human right.
you are _not_ your property
Property as gained by the effort and work of a human being is >>>>>>>>>>>>> inherently a part of that person's life. As such, defense >>>>>>>>>>>>> of that
property is also a human right.
even the person who first came up with that predicated that >>>>>>>>>>>> right to
mixing labor with land to claim property, on there being >>>>>>>>>>>> enough common
lands left for all to utilize...
which we've gone so far past that you want to keep 7/8 >>>>>>>>>>>> people on this
planet chained to the nation state they were born in without >>>>>>>>>>>> even the
permission to leave.
Anyone who attempts to take away one's property or other >>>>>>>>>>>>> natural
rights is an enabler of tyranny, and therefore an enemy of >>>>>>>>>>>>> life and of
humanity.
I'm not keeping them in their home countries. They just can't >>>>>>>>>>> all come
here, that's all.
Ok, lets change the wording a little.
"you want to keep 7/8 people on this
planet chained to nation states where they can have no future, >>>>>>>>>> no hope
of improvement in their lives without even the permission to go >>>>>>>>>> somewhere better."
No, I don't want to keep them "chained to nation states". As >>>>>>>>> far as I'm concerned they are free to go anywhere that's
willing to accept them.
my god the endless stupidity of capitalist morons refusing to >>>>>>>> accept responsibility for the bullshit they preach...
which ofc is expected. a honest person cannot hold the positions >>>>>>>> of sheeplefried capitalists.
you _are_ the fucking problem wilson. if the richest country on >>>>>>>> the planet can't "afford" basic freedom of movement, then how in >>>>>>>> the fuck do you expect others to follow???
I'm not even that attached to the idea of nation-states and >>>>>>>>> kind of like the idea of free places that are outside of the >>>>>>>>> nation- state.
In any case, no place is obligated to accept everyone that
wants to go there. The current citizens get a say in the matter. >>>>>>>>
ur pathetic "well-wishings" are meaningless platitudes compares >>>>>>>> to the subethical positions you hold, which are directly causal >>>>>>>> in chaining 7/8 people on the planet to the nation states of
their birth, something they have _zero_ choice
Go get your consensus and then get back to me.
why do i have to fix the mess the coercive mess your fucking
ungodly ideology created???
where do u think ur next life will end up, eh???
created.
you could start by advocating for it as a problem instead of
endlessly denying it's a problem u stupid fuck
there we do dud: i give a suggestion and you just pathetically duck it
cause we both know you don't give a single fuck that the "freedom" of
capitalism is chaining 7/8 out people to their nation of birth
in one form or another in a mixed economy in a free market system.
On 8/11/26 4:01 PM, Dude wrote:<snip>
On 8/11/2026 1:45 PM, dart200 wrote:
We studied this in Elementary School:ur an absolute fucking unrepentant sinner unworthy of the air youLike I said:
breath dud. find a grave and sit in it
choke on a large dick until you die u subhuman ape
choke on a large dick until you die u subhuman ape
dart200 <user7160@newsgrouper.org.invalid> posted:
On 8/11/26 4:01 PM, Dude wrote:<snip>
On 8/11/2026 1:45 PM, dart200 wrote:
That should wrap up the discussion about private property!We studied this in Elementary School:ur an absolute fucking unrepentant sinner unworthy of the air youLike I said:
breath dud. find a grave and sit in it
choke on a large dick until you die u subhuman ape
choke on a large dick until you die u subhuman ape
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