• (American Booze ban) The irony eh :P

    From Tara@tsm@fastmail.ca to alt.buddha.short.fat.guy on Sat Aug 8 16:08:12 2026
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    Trump really wants U.S. booze back on Canadian shelves. 18 months ago we
    pulled American booze off our shelves in responce to 25% American tariffs on Canadian goods.

    Now Trump is making it part of the 'deal' on trade and threatens 50% tariffs
    on free trade goods tied to USMCA or as we call it in Canada CUSMA. A big American demand in (non) negotiations is American booze back on our shelves.

    funny though, how some things come back and bite you in the arse.


    From CBC Aug. 8/26

    "U.S. booze might end up back on Canadian shelves, but have we lost the taste for it?
    Majority of Canadians say they won't buy American alcohol if it becomes available again, recent poll shows

    Two signs reading, 'Buy Canadian instead', in front of rows of Jack Daniel's whisky.
    A sign at a Vancouver liqour store in February last year encourages customers to consider purchasing Canadian alcohol. British Columbia and several other provinces have since pulled top selling American products from liquor store shelves in response to U.S. President Donald Trump's tariffs. (Ethan
    Cairns/The Canadian Press)
    Social Sharing

    Deb Anderson can't remember the last time she bought a product from the United States.

    Like many Canadians, the 65 year old from Prospect, N.S., said she's been alarmed by U.S. President Donald Trump's repeated threats against Canada rCo and
    she's been boycotting American goods in protest.

    So when she read on Friday that Canada was prepared to lift a ban on American alcohol sales as part of its trade negotiations with the Trump administration, Anderson says she felt disappointed.

    "But just because it goes back on the shelves doesn't mean that sales are
    going to go back to where they were. The damage has been done," she told CBC
    in an interview.

    Anderson says the "constant badgering and unfair negotiation practices" from the U.S. have "really give us a bad taste for all things American."

    Anderson doesn't appear to be alone in her feelings: Sixty-nine per cent of Canadians said they weren't likely to buy American alcohol if it goes back on store shelves, according to a Nanos Research poll published last month.

    Support for a continued boycott of U.S. alcohol was highest in British Columbia, where 80.9 per cent of respondents said they were unlikely or somewhat unlikely to buy U.S. booze again if it's made available.

    That was followed by 74.7 per cent of people in Ontario and 73.9 per cent of Quebecers who said the same, the poll found.

    With most Canadian provinces vowing to keep U.S. alcohol off store shelves in response to President Donald TrumprCOs latest tariff threats, CBCrCOs Eli Glasner
    asks: are the booze bans an effective pressure tactic or merely political symbolism rCo and an inconvenience for consumers.
    Steep decline in U.S. alcohol imports

    Industry sources with knowledge of Canada-U.S. trade negotiations told CBC
    News that the Canadian government was prepared to lift bans on alcohol sales
    as it negotiates possible concessions in exchange for U.S. tariff relief.

    Trump has threatened to impose 50 per cent tariffs on some Canadian goods on Aug. 19 if Canada fails to lift some retaliatory trade measures against the U.S., including the alcohol bans.

    Those bans date back to early last year, when several provinces removed U.S. alcohol from the shelves at their respective liquor boards in response to
    Trump slapping a 25-per-cent tariff on Canadian goods.

    Ivan Gedz, who owns the bar Union Local 613 in Ottawa, says his stockpile of American booze ran out two months after U.S. supplies were taken off the shelves at the Liquor Control Board of Ontario (LCBO) last year.

    But Gedz says customers at the bar, which had previously offered a wide range of American spirits, didn't bat an eye at not having access to bourbon and other alcohol made south of the border.

    Instead, the U.S. alcohol ban encouraged patrons to try booze they'd never had before.

    "There's nothing I love more than giving someone an Indian whisky and they're like, 'India? I didn't even know India made whisky,' " Gedz told CBC News in
    an interview. "They're producing excellent stuff rCo it's just we don't get a ton of it."
    A person's hands lift bottles of whisky off a shelf.
    A proposal to halt provincial bans on American booze was revealed Friday as negotiators race to reach a deal before new U.S. tariffs take effect on Aug. 19. However, a poll last month suggested 69 per cent of Canadians said they weren't likely to buy U.S. alcohol even if it returns to shelves. (Ethan Cairns/The Canadian Press)
    Changing tastes?

    The need to seek out alternatives is something that was seen in other parts of Canada, too.

    Quebec's liquor board, the Soci|-t|- des alcools du Qu|-bec (SAQ), said in its 2026 annual report that "fans of U.S. wines have turned to counterparts from other regions" amid the ban.

    "Canadian wines, including Quebec wines, have gained popularity and now rank ahead of Australia's," the report said, adding that Austrian wines were also becoming more popular in "a sign that customers are curious and open to discovering new countries of origin."

    Nicole Raufeisen is director of operations at Grape Witches, a bar and wine bottle shop in Toronto that continued to sell U.S. wines it already had
    stocked when the ban came into effect.

    "We've slowly ticked away through those products. I think we're down to maybe just one or two different wines," she told CBC in an interview on Friday.


    If the ban is lifted, Raufeisen says she expects customers will again reach
    for wines they enjoy from the U.S., such as fuller-bodied reds from
    California. "People will go back because those wines are good, that market share is well-trodden, so to speak, and the visibility there is high."

    But she added that demand for American wines can also be attributed to trade barriers between provinces.

    While nine provincial premiers announced last month that they would introduce direct-to-consumer alcohol sales between provinces, Raufeisen says
    restrictions on wholesale wine sales between provinces remain a major challenge.

    "If there were no interprovincial barriers to the wholesale movement of wines, then it's possible that no one would miss any of the American wines," she
    said, noting that B.C. wines are comparable to those from California.

    Back in Ottawa, Gedz says Union Local 613 would probably bring U.S. booze back if the ban is lifted as part of a wider trade agreement between the two countries.

    But he says he doesn't expect American alcohol to be as popular as it once was because many Canadians "have exposed themselves to products that they may not have tried" without the ban in place."

    "I'm just hoping that those customers maintain their willingness for experimentation," Gedz said. "And you know what? If we stick it to the Americans for a little while longer, I'm cool with that."
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  • From dart200@user7160@newsgrouper.org.invalid to alt.buddha.short.fat.guy,alt.messianic on Sat Aug 8 09:16:06 2026
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    On 8/8/26 9:08 AM, Tara wrote:
    Trump really wants U.S. booze back on Canadian shelves. 18 months ago we pulled American booze off our shelves in responce to 25% American tariffs on Canadian goods.

    Now Trump is making it part of the 'deal' on trade and threatens 50% tariffs on free trade goods tied to USMCA or as we call it in Canada CUSMA. A big American demand in (non) negotiations is American booze back on our shelves.

    funny though, how some things come back and bite you in the arse.


    From CBC Aug. 8/26

    "U.S. booze might end up back on Canadian shelves, but have we lost the taste for it?
    Majority of Canadians say they won't buy American alcohol if it becomes available again, recent poll shows

    Two signs reading, 'Buy Canadian instead', in front of rows of Jack Daniel's whisky.
    A sign at a Vancouver liqour store in February last year encourages customers to consider purchasing Canadian alcohol. British Columbia and several other provinces have since pulled top selling American products from liquor store shelves in response to U.S. President Donald Trump's tariffs. (Ethan Cairns/The Canadian Press)
    Social Sharing

    Deb Anderson can't remember the last time she bought a product from the United
    States.

    Like many Canadians, the 65 year old from Prospect, N.S., said she's been alarmed by U.S. President Donald Trump's repeated threats against Canada rCo and
    she's been boycotting American goods in protest.

    So when she read on Friday that Canada was prepared to lift a ban on American alcohol sales as part of its trade negotiations with the Trump administration,
    Anderson says she felt disappointed.

    "But just because it goes back on the shelves doesn't mean that sales are going to go back to where they were. The damage has been done," she told CBC in an interview.

    Anderson says the "constant badgering and unfair negotiation practices" from the U.S. have "really give us a bad taste for all things American."

    Anderson doesn't appear to be alone in her feelings: Sixty-nine per cent of Canadians said they weren't likely to buy American alcohol if it goes back on store shelves, according to a Nanos Research poll published last month.

    Support for a continued boycott of U.S. alcohol was highest in British Columbia, where 80.9 per cent of respondents said they were unlikely or somewhat unlikely to buy U.S. booze again if it's made available.

    That was followed by 74.7 per cent of people in Ontario and 73.9 per cent of Quebecers who said the same, the poll found.

    With most Canadian provinces vowing to keep U.S. alcohol off store shelves in response to President Donald TrumprCOs latest tariff threats, CBCrCOs Eli Glasner
    asks: are the booze bans an effective pressure tactic or merely political symbolism rCo and an inconvenience for consumers.
    Steep decline in U.S. alcohol imports

    Industry sources with knowledge of Canada-U.S. trade negotiations told CBC News that the Canadian government was prepared to lift bans on alcohol sales as it negotiates possible concessions in exchange for U.S. tariff relief.

    Trump has threatened to impose 50 per cent tariffs on some Canadian goods on Aug. 19 if Canada fails to lift some retaliatory trade measures against the U.S., including the alcohol bans.

    Those bans date back to early last year, when several provinces removed U.S. alcohol from the shelves at their respective liquor boards in response to Trump slapping a 25-per-cent tariff on Canadian goods.

    Ivan Gedz, who owns the bar Union Local 613 in Ottawa, says his stockpile of American booze ran out two months after U.S. supplies were taken off the shelves at the Liquor Control Board of Ontario (LCBO) last year.

    But Gedz says customers at the bar, which had previously offered a wide range of American spirits, didn't bat an eye at not having access to bourbon and other alcohol made south of the border.

    Instead, the U.S. alcohol ban encouraged patrons to try booze they'd never had
    before.

    "There's nothing I love more than giving someone an Indian whisky and they're like, 'India? I didn't even know India made whisky,' " Gedz told CBC News in an interview. "They're producing excellent stuff rCo it's just we don't get a ton of it."
    A person's hands lift bottles of whisky off a shelf.
    A proposal to halt provincial bans on American booze was revealed Friday as negotiators race to reach a deal before new U.S. tariffs take effect on Aug. 19. However, a poll last month suggested 69 per cent of Canadians said they weren't likely to buy U.S. alcohol even if it returns to shelves. (Ethan Cairns/The Canadian Press)
    Changing tastes?

    The need to seek out alternatives is something that was seen in other parts of
    Canada, too.

    Quebec's liquor board, the Soci|-t|- des alcools du Qu|-bec (SAQ), said in its
    2026 annual report that "fans of U.S. wines have turned to counterparts from other regions" amid the ban.

    "Canadian wines, including Quebec wines, have gained popularity and now rank ahead of Australia's," the report said, adding that Austrian wines were also becoming more popular in "a sign that customers are curious and open to discovering new countries of origin."

    Nicole Raufeisen is director of operations at Grape Witches, a bar and wine bottle shop in Toronto that continued to sell U.S. wines it already had stocked when the ban came into effect.

    "We've slowly ticked away through those products. I think we're down to maybe just one or two different wines," she told CBC in an interview on Friday.


    If the ban is lifted, Raufeisen says she expects customers will again reach for wines they enjoy from the U.S., such as fuller-bodied reds from California. "People will go back because those wines are good, that market share is well-trodden, so to speak, and the visibility there is high."

    But she added that demand for American wines can also be attributed to trade barriers between provinces.

    While nine provincial premiers announced last month that they would introduce direct-to-consumer alcohol sales between provinces, Raufeisen says restrictions on wholesale wine sales between provinces remain a major challenge.

    "If there were no interprovincial barriers to the wholesale movement of wines,
    then it's possible that no one would miss any of the American wines," she said, noting that B.C. wines are comparable to those from California.

    Back in Ottawa, Gedz says Union Local 613 would probably bring U.S. booze back
    if the ban is lifted as part of a wider trade agreement between the two countries.

    But he says he doesn't expect American alcohol to be as popular as it once was
    because many Canadians "have exposed themselves to products that they may not have tried" without the ban in place."

    "I'm just hoping that those customers maintain their willingness for experimentation," Gedz said. "And you know what? If we stick it to the Americans for a little while longer, I'm cool with that."

    alcohol is a drug u fking addicts
    --
    why are we god?
    let's end war EfOa

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  • From Julian@julianlzb87@gmail.com to alt.buddha.short.fat.guy on Sat Aug 8 17:21:00 2026
    From Newsgroup: alt.buddha.short.fat.guy

    On 08/08/2026 17:08, Tara wrote:
    Trump really wants U.S. booze back on Canadian shelves. 18 months ago we pulled American booze off our shelves in responce to 25% American tariffs on Canadian goods.

    Now Trump is making it part of the 'deal' on trade and threatens 50% tariffs on free trade goods tied to USMCA or as we call it in Canada CUSMA. A big American demand in (non) negotiations is American booze back on our shelves.

    funny though, how some things come back and bite you in the arse.


    From CBC Aug. 8/26

    "U.S. booze might end up back on Canadian shelves, but have we lost the taste for it?
    Majority of Canadians say they won't buy American alcohol if it becomes available again, recent poll shows

    Two signs reading, 'Buy Canadian instead', in front of rows of Jack Daniel's whisky.
    A sign at a Vancouver liqour store in February last year encourages customers to consider purchasing Canadian alcohol. British Columbia and several other provinces have since pulled top selling American products from liquor store shelves in response to U.S. President Donald Trump's tariffs. (Ethan Cairns/The Canadian Press)
    Social Sharing

    Deb Anderson can't remember the last time she bought a product from the United
    States.

    Like many Canadians, the 65 year old from Prospect, N.S., said she's been alarmed by U.S. President Donald Trump's repeated threats against Canada rCo and
    she's been boycotting American goods in protest.

    So when she read on Friday that Canada was prepared to lift a ban on American alcohol sales as part of its trade negotiations with the Trump administration,
    Anderson says she felt disappointed.

    "But just because it goes back on the shelves doesn't mean that sales are going to go back to where they were. The damage has been done," she told CBC in an interview.

    Anderson says the "constant badgering and unfair negotiation practices" from the U.S. have "really give us a bad taste for all things American."

    Anderson doesn't appear to be alone in her feelings: Sixty-nine per cent of Canadians said they weren't likely to buy American alcohol if it goes back on store shelves, according to a Nanos Research poll published last month.

    Support for a continued boycott of U.S. alcohol was highest in British Columbia, where 80.9 per cent of respondents said they were unlikely or somewhat unlikely to buy U.S. booze again if it's made available.

    That was followed by 74.7 per cent of people in Ontario and 73.9 per cent of Quebecers who said the same, the poll found.

    With most Canadian provinces vowing to keep U.S. alcohol off store shelves in response to President Donald TrumprCOs latest tariff threats, CBCrCOs Eli Glasner
    asks: are the booze bans an effective pressure tactic or merely political symbolism rCo and an inconvenience for consumers.
    Steep decline in U.S. alcohol imports

    Industry sources with knowledge of Canada-U.S. trade negotiations told CBC News that the Canadian government was prepared to lift bans on alcohol sales as it negotiates possible concessions in exchange for U.S. tariff relief.

    Trump has threatened to impose 50 per cent tariffs on some Canadian goods on Aug. 19 if Canada fails to lift some retaliatory trade measures against the U.S., including the alcohol bans.

    Those bans date back to early last year, when several provinces removed U.S. alcohol from the shelves at their respective liquor boards in response to Trump slapping a 25-per-cent tariff on Canadian goods.

    Ivan Gedz, who owns the bar Union Local 613 in Ottawa, says his stockpile of American booze ran out two months after U.S. supplies were taken off the shelves at the Liquor Control Board of Ontario (LCBO) last year.

    But Gedz says customers at the bar, which had previously offered a wide range of American spirits, didn't bat an eye at not having access to bourbon and other alcohol made south of the border.

    Instead, the U.S. alcohol ban encouraged patrons to try booze they'd never had
    before.

    "There's nothing I love more than giving someone an Indian whisky and they're like, 'India? I didn't even know India made whisky,' " Gedz told CBC News in an interview. "They're producing excellent stuff rCo it's just we don't get a ton of it."
    A person's hands lift bottles of whisky off a shelf.
    A proposal to halt provincial bans on American booze was revealed Friday as negotiators race to reach a deal before new U.S. tariffs take effect on Aug. 19. However, a poll last month suggested 69 per cent of Canadians said they weren't likely to buy U.S. alcohol even if it returns to shelves. (Ethan Cairns/The Canadian Press)
    Changing tastes?

    The need to seek out alternatives is something that was seen in other parts of
    Canada, too.

    Quebec's liquor board, the Soci|-t|- des alcools du Qu|-bec (SAQ), said in its
    2026 annual report that "fans of U.S. wines have turned to counterparts from other regions" amid the ban.

    "Canadian wines, including Quebec wines, have gained popularity and now rank ahead of Australia's," the report said, adding that Austrian wines were also becoming more popular in "a sign that customers are curious and open to discovering new countries of origin."

    Nicole Raufeisen is director of operations at Grape Witches, a bar and wine bottle shop in Toronto that continued to sell U.S. wines it already had stocked when the ban came into effect.

    "We've slowly ticked away through those products. I think we're down to maybe just one or two different wines," she told CBC in an interview on Friday.


    If the ban is lifted, Raufeisen says she expects customers will again reach for wines they enjoy from the U.S., such as fuller-bodied reds from California. "People will go back because those wines are good, that market share is well-trodden, so to speak, and the visibility there is high."

    But she added that demand for American wines can also be attributed to trade barriers between provinces.

    While nine provincial premiers announced last month that they would introduce direct-to-consumer alcohol sales between provinces, Raufeisen says restrictions on wholesale wine sales between provinces remain a major challenge.

    "If there were no interprovincial barriers to the wholesale movement of wines,
    then it's possible that no one would miss any of the American wines," she said, noting that B.C. wines are comparable to those from California.

    Back in Ottawa, Gedz says Union Local 613 would probably bring U.S. booze back
    if the ban is lifted as part of a wider trade agreement between the two countries.

    But he says he doesn't expect American alcohol to be as popular as it once was
    because many Canadians "have exposed themselves to products that they may not have tried" without the ban in place."

    "I'm just hoping that those customers maintain their willingness for experimentation," Gedz said. "And you know what? If we stick it to the Americans for a little while longer, I'm cool with that."

    They are desperate to sell it. The USA booze market is being
    decimated by a perfect storm of increasingly sober young, weed,
    tirzepatides and semaglutides.
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  • From Tara@tsm@fastmail.ca to alt.buddha.short.fat.guy on Sat Aug 8 16:45:32 2026
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    On Aug 8, 2026 at 12:21:00rC>PM EDT, "Julian" <julianlzb87@gmail.com> wrote:

    On 08/08/2026 17:08, Tara wrote:
    Trump really wants U.S. booze back on Canadian shelves. 18 months ago we
    pulled American booze off our shelves in responce to 25% American tariffs on >> Canadian goods.

    Now Trump is making it part of the 'deal' on trade and threatens 50% tariffs >> on free trade goods tied to USMCA or as we call it in Canada CUSMA. A big
    American demand in (non) negotiations is American booze back on our shelves. >>
    funny though, how some things come back and bite you in the arse.


    From CBC Aug. 8/26

    "U.S. booze might end up back on Canadian shelves, but have we lost the taste
    for it?
    Majority of Canadians say they won't buy American alcohol if it becomes
    available again, recent poll shows

    Two signs reading, 'Buy Canadian instead', in front of rows of Jack Daniel's >> whisky.
    A sign at a Vancouver liqour store in February last year encourages customers
    to consider purchasing Canadian alcohol. British Columbia and several other >> provinces have since pulled top selling American products from liquor store >> shelves in response to U.S. President Donald Trump's tariffs. (Ethan
    Cairns/The Canadian Press)
    Social Sharing

    Deb Anderson can't remember the last time she bought a product from the United
    States.

    Like many Canadians, the 65 year old from Prospect, N.S., said she's been
    alarmed by U.S. President Donald Trump's repeated threats against Canada rCo and
    she's been boycotting American goods in protest.

    So when she read on Friday that Canada was prepared to lift a ban on American
    alcohol sales as part of its trade negotiations with the Trump administration,
    Anderson says she felt disappointed.

    "But just because it goes back on the shelves doesn't mean that sales are
    going to go back to where they were. The damage has been done," she told CBC >> in an interview.

    Anderson says the "constant badgering and unfair negotiation practices" from >> the U.S. have "really give us a bad taste for all things American."

    Anderson doesn't appear to be alone in her feelings: Sixty-nine per cent of
    Canadians said they weren't likely to buy American alcohol if it goes back on
    store shelves, according to a Nanos Research poll published last month.

    Support for a continued boycott of U.S. alcohol was highest in British
    Columbia, where 80.9 per cent of respondents said they were unlikely or
    somewhat unlikely to buy U.S. booze again if it's made available.

    That was followed by 74.7 per cent of people in Ontario and 73.9 per cent of >> Quebecers who said the same, the poll found.

    With most Canadian provinces vowing to keep U.S. alcohol off store shelves in
    response to President Donald TrumprCOs latest tariff threats, CBCrCOs Eli Glasner
    asks: are the booze bans an effective pressure tactic or merely political
    symbolism rCo and an inconvenience for consumers.
    Steep decline in U.S. alcohol imports

    Industry sources with knowledge of Canada-U.S. trade negotiations told CBC >> News that the Canadian government was prepared to lift bans on alcohol sales >> as it negotiates possible concessions in exchange for U.S. tariff relief.

    Trump has threatened to impose 50 per cent tariffs on some Canadian goods on >> Aug. 19 if Canada fails to lift some retaliatory trade measures against the >> U.S., including the alcohol bans.

    Those bans date back to early last year, when several provinces removed U.S. >> alcohol from the shelves at their respective liquor boards in response to
    Trump slapping a 25-per-cent tariff on Canadian goods.

    Ivan Gedz, who owns the bar Union Local 613 in Ottawa, says his stockpile of >> American booze ran out two months after U.S. supplies were taken off the
    shelves at the Liquor Control Board of Ontario (LCBO) last year.

    But Gedz says customers at the bar, which had previously offered a wide range
    of American spirits, didn't bat an eye at not having access to bourbon and >> other alcohol made south of the border.

    Instead, the U.S. alcohol ban encouraged patrons to try booze they'd never had
    before.

    "There's nothing I love more than giving someone an Indian whisky and they're
    like, 'India? I didn't even know India made whisky,' " Gedz told CBC News in >> an interview. "They're producing excellent stuff rCo it's just we don't get a
    ton of it."
    A person's hands lift bottles of whisky off a shelf.
    A proposal to halt provincial bans on American booze was revealed Friday as >> negotiators race to reach a deal before new U.S. tariffs take effect on Aug. >> 19. However, a poll last month suggested 69 per cent of Canadians said they >> weren't likely to buy U.S. alcohol even if it returns to shelves. (Ethan
    Cairns/The Canadian Press)
    Changing tastes?

    The need to seek out alternatives is something that was seen in other parts of
    Canada, too.

    Quebec's liquor board, the Soci|-t|- des alcools du Qu|-bec (SAQ), said in its
    2026 annual report that "fans of U.S. wines have turned to counterparts from >> other regions" amid the ban.

    "Canadian wines, including Quebec wines, have gained popularity and now rank >> ahead of Australia's," the report said, adding that Austrian wines were also >> becoming more popular in "a sign that customers are curious and open to
    discovering new countries of origin."

    Nicole Raufeisen is director of operations at Grape Witches, a bar and wine >> bottle shop in Toronto that continued to sell U.S. wines it already had
    stocked when the ban came into effect.

    "We've slowly ticked away through those products. I think we're down to maybe
    just one or two different wines," she told CBC in an interview on Friday.


    If the ban is lifted, Raufeisen says she expects customers will again reach >> for wines they enjoy from the U.S., such as fuller-bodied reds from
    California. "People will go back because those wines are good, that market >> share is well-trodden, so to speak, and the visibility there is high."

    But she added that demand for American wines can also be attributed to trade >> barriers between provinces.

    While nine provincial premiers announced last month that they would introduce
    direct-to-consumer alcohol sales between provinces, Raufeisen says
    restrictions on wholesale wine sales between provinces remain a major
    challenge.

    "If there were no interprovincial barriers to the wholesale movement of wines,
    then it's possible that no one would miss any of the American wines," she
    said, noting that B.C. wines are comparable to those from California.

    Back in Ottawa, Gedz says Union Local 613 would probably bring U.S. booze back
    if the ban is lifted as part of a wider trade agreement between the two
    countries.

    But he says he doesn't expect American alcohol to be as popular as it once was
    because many Canadians "have exposed themselves to products that they may not
    have tried" without the ban in place."

    "I'm just hoping that those customers maintain their willingness for
    experimentation," Gedz said. "And you know what? If we stick it to the
    Americans for a little while longer, I'm cool with that."

    They are desperate to sell it. The USA booze market is being
    decimated by a perfect storm of increasingly sober young, weed,
    tirzepatides and semaglutides.

    Haha
    Here as well - certainly tirzepatides and semaglutides.
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  • From Dude@punditster@gmail.com to alt.buddha.short.fat.guy on Sat Aug 8 10:55:52 2026
    From Newsgroup: alt.buddha.short.fat.guy

    On 8/8/2026 9:45 AM, Tara wrote:
    On Aug 8, 2026 at 12:21:00rC>PM EDT, "Julian" <julianlzb87@gmail.com> wrote:

    On 08/08/2026 17:08, Tara wrote:
    Trump really wants U.S. booze back on Canadian shelves. 18 months ago we >>> pulled American booze off our shelves in responce to 25% American tariffs on
    Canadian goods.

    Now Trump is making it part of the 'deal' on trade and threatens 50% tariffs
    on free trade goods tied to USMCA or as we call it in Canada CUSMA. A big >>> American demand in (non) negotiations is American booze back on our shelves.

    funny though, how some things come back and bite you in the arse.


    From CBC Aug. 8/26

    "U.S. booze might end up back on Canadian shelves, but have we lost the taste
    for it?
    Majority of Canadians say they won't buy American alcohol if it becomes
    available again, recent poll shows

    Two signs reading, 'Buy Canadian instead', in front of rows of Jack Daniel's
    whisky.
    A sign at a Vancouver liqour store in February last year encourages customers
    to consider purchasing Canadian alcohol. British Columbia and several other >>> provinces have since pulled top selling American products from liquor store >>> shelves in response to U.S. President Donald Trump's tariffs. (Ethan
    Cairns/The Canadian Press)
    Social Sharing

    Deb Anderson can't remember the last time she bought a product from the United
    States.

    Like many Canadians, the 65 year old from Prospect, N.S., said she's been >>> alarmed by U.S. President Donald Trump's repeated threats against Canada rCo and
    she's been boycotting American goods in protest.

    So when she read on Friday that Canada was prepared to lift a ban on American
    alcohol sales as part of its trade negotiations with the Trump administration,
    Anderson says she felt disappointed.

    "But just because it goes back on the shelves doesn't mean that sales are >>> going to go back to where they were. The damage has been done," she told CBC
    in an interview.

    Anderson says the "constant badgering and unfair negotiation practices" from
    the U.S. have "really give us a bad taste for all things American."

    Anderson doesn't appear to be alone in her feelings: Sixty-nine per cent of
    Canadians said they weren't likely to buy American alcohol if it goes back on
    store shelves, according to a Nanos Research poll published last month.

    Support for a continued boycott of U.S. alcohol was highest in British
    Columbia, where 80.9 per cent of respondents said they were unlikely or
    somewhat unlikely to buy U.S. booze again if it's made available.

    That was followed by 74.7 per cent of people in Ontario and 73.9 per cent of
    Quebecers who said the same, the poll found.

    With most Canadian provinces vowing to keep U.S. alcohol off store shelves in
    response to President Donald TrumprCOs latest tariff threats, CBCrCOs Eli Glasner
    asks: are the booze bans an effective pressure tactic or merely political >>> symbolism rCo and an inconvenience for consumers.
    Steep decline in U.S. alcohol imports

    Industry sources with knowledge of Canada-U.S. trade negotiations told CBC >>> News that the Canadian government was prepared to lift bans on alcohol sales
    as it negotiates possible concessions in exchange for U.S. tariff relief. >>>
    Trump has threatened to impose 50 per cent tariffs on some Canadian goods on
    Aug. 19 if Canada fails to lift some retaliatory trade measures against the >>> U.S., including the alcohol bans.

    Those bans date back to early last year, when several provinces removed U.S.
    alcohol from the shelves at their respective liquor boards in response to >>> Trump slapping a 25-per-cent tariff on Canadian goods.

    Ivan Gedz, who owns the bar Union Local 613 in Ottawa, says his stockpile of
    American booze ran out two months after U.S. supplies were taken off the >>> shelves at the Liquor Control Board of Ontario (LCBO) last year.

    But Gedz says customers at the bar, which had previously offered a wide range
    of American spirits, didn't bat an eye at not having access to bourbon and >>> other alcohol made south of the border.

    Instead, the U.S. alcohol ban encouraged patrons to try booze they'd never had
    before.

    "There's nothing I love more than giving someone an Indian whisky and they're
    like, 'India? I didn't even know India made whisky,' " Gedz told CBC News in
    an interview. "They're producing excellent stuff rCo it's just we don't get a
    ton of it."
    A person's hands lift bottles of whisky off a shelf.
    A proposal to halt provincial bans on American booze was revealed Friday as >>> negotiators race to reach a deal before new U.S. tariffs take effect on Aug.
    19. However, a poll last month suggested 69 per cent of Canadians said they >>> weren't likely to buy U.S. alcohol even if it returns to shelves. (Ethan >>> Cairns/The Canadian Press)
    Changing tastes?

    The need to seek out alternatives is something that was seen in other parts of
    Canada, too.

    Quebec's liquor board, the Soci|-t|- des alcools du Qu|-bec (SAQ), said in its
    2026 annual report that "fans of U.S. wines have turned to counterparts from
    other regions" amid the ban.

    "Canadian wines, including Quebec wines, have gained popularity and now rank
    ahead of Australia's," the report said, adding that Austrian wines were also
    becoming more popular in "a sign that customers are curious and open to
    discovering new countries of origin."

    Nicole Raufeisen is director of operations at Grape Witches, a bar and wine >>> bottle shop in Toronto that continued to sell U.S. wines it already had
    stocked when the ban came into effect.

    "We've slowly ticked away through those products. I think we're down to maybe
    just one or two different wines," she told CBC in an interview on Friday. >>>

    If the ban is lifted, Raufeisen says she expects customers will again reach >>> for wines they enjoy from the U.S., such as fuller-bodied reds from
    California. "People will go back because those wines are good, that market >>> share is well-trodden, so to speak, and the visibility there is high."

    But she added that demand for American wines can also be attributed to trade
    barriers between provinces.

    While nine provincial premiers announced last month that they would introduce
    direct-to-consumer alcohol sales between provinces, Raufeisen says
    restrictions on wholesale wine sales between provinces remain a major
    challenge.

    "If there were no interprovincial barriers to the wholesale movement of wines,
    then it's possible that no one would miss any of the American wines," she >>> said, noting that B.C. wines are comparable to those from California.

    Back in Ottawa, Gedz says Union Local 613 would probably bring U.S. booze back
    if the ban is lifted as part of a wider trade agreement between the two
    countries.

    But he says he doesn't expect American alcohol to be as popular as it once was
    because many Canadians "have exposed themselves to products that they may not
    have tried" without the ban in place."

    "I'm just hoping that those customers maintain their willingness for
    experimentation," Gedz said. "And you know what? If we stick it to the
    Americans for a little while longer, I'm cool with that."

    They are desperate to sell it. The USA booze market is being
    decimated by a perfect storm of increasingly sober young, weed,
    tirzepatides and semaglutides.

    Haha
    Here as well - certainly tirzepatides and semaglutides.

    Apparently, there are exemptions on commodities like energy, potash fertilizer, fish, and critical minerals are excluded from the US tariffs.

    Core Trade Complaints: The U.S. objects to Canadian taxes and quotas on American motor vehicles and parts, which the administration argues
    unfairly favor domestic Canadian production.
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  • From Dude@punditster@gmail.com to alt.buddha.short.fat.guy,alt.messianic on Sat Aug 8 13:15:21 2026
    From Newsgroup: alt.buddha.short.fat.guy

    On 8/8/2026 9:16 AM, dart200 wrote:
    On 8/8/26 9:08 AM, Tara wrote:
    Trump really wants U.S. booze back on Canadian shelves. 18 months ago we
    pulled American booze off our shelves in responce to 25% American
    tariffs on
    Canadian goods.

    Now Trump is making it part of the 'deal' on trade and threatens 50%
    tariffs
    on free trade goods tied to USMCA or as we call it in Canada CUSMA. A big
    American demand in (non) negotiations is American booze back on our
    shelves.

    funny though,-a how some things come back and bite you in the arse.


    -aFrom-a CBC Aug. 8/26

    "U.S. booze might end up back on Canadian shelves, but have we lost
    the taste
    for it?
    Majority of Canadians say they won't buy American alcohol if it becomes
    available again, recent poll shows

    Two signs reading, 'Buy Canadian instead', in front of rows of Jack
    Daniel's
    whisky.
    A sign at a Vancouver liqour store in February last year encourages
    customers
    to consider purchasing Canadian alcohol. British Columbia and several
    other
    provinces have since pulled top selling American products from liquor
    store
    shelves in response to U.S. President Donald Trump's tariffs. (Ethan
    Cairns/The Canadian Press)
    Social Sharing

    Deb Anderson can't remember the last time she bought a product from
    the United
    States.

    Like many Canadians, the 65 year old from Prospect, N.S., said she's been
    alarmed by U.S. President Donald Trump's repeated threats against
    Canada rCo and
    she's been boycotting American goods in protest.

    So when she read on Friday that Canada was prepared to lift a ban on
    American
    alcohol sales as part of its trade negotiations with the Trump
    administration,
    Anderson says she felt disappointed.

    "But just because it goes back on the shelves doesn't mean that sales are
    going to go back to where they were. The damage has been done," she
    told CBC
    in an interview.

    Anderson says the "constant badgering and unfair negotiation
    practices" from
    the U.S. have "really give us a bad taste for all things American."

    -a Anderson doesn't appear to be alone in her feelings: Sixty-nine per
    cent of
    Canadians said they weren't likely to buy American alcohol if it goes
    back on
    store shelves, according to a Nanos Research poll published last month.

    Support for a continued boycott of U.S. alcohol was highest in British
    Columbia, where 80.9 per cent of respondents said they were unlikely or
    somewhat unlikely to buy U.S. booze again if it's made available.

    That was followed by 74.7 per cent of people in Ontario and 73.9 per
    cent of
    Quebecers who said the same, the poll found.

    With most Canadian provinces vowing to keep U.S. alcohol off store
    shelves in
    response to President Donald TrumprCOs latest tariff threats, CBCrCOs Eli >> Glasner
    asks: are the booze bans an effective pressure tactic or merely political
    symbolism rCo and an inconvenience for consumers.
    Steep decline in U.S. alcohol imports

    Industry sources with knowledge of Canada-U.S. trade negotiations told
    CBC
    News that the Canadian government was prepared to lift bans on alcohol
    sales
    as it negotiates possible concessions in exchange for U.S. tariff relief.

    Trump has threatened to impose 50 per cent tariffs on some Canadian
    goods on
    Aug. 19 if Canada fails to lift some retaliatory trade measures
    against the
    U.S., including the alcohol bans.

    Those bans date back to early last year, when several provinces
    removed U.S.
    alcohol from the shelves at their respective liquor boards in response to
    Trump slapping a 25-per-cent tariff on Canadian goods.

    Ivan Gedz, who owns the bar Union Local 613 in Ottawa, says his
    stockpile of
    American booze ran out two months after U.S. supplies were taken off the
    shelves at the Liquor Control Board of Ontario (LCBO) last year.

    But Gedz says customers at the bar, which had previously offered a
    wide range
    of American spirits, didn't bat an eye at not having access to bourbon
    and
    other alcohol made south of the border.

    Instead, the U.S. alcohol ban encouraged patrons to try booze they'd
    never had
    before.

    "There's nothing I love more than giving someone an Indian whisky and
    they're
    like, 'India? I didn't even know India made whisky,' " Gedz told CBC
    News in
    an interview. "They're producing excellent stuff rCo it's just we don't
    get a
    ton of it."
    A person's hands lift bottles of whisky off a shelf.
    A proposal to halt provincial bans on American booze was revealed
    Friday as
    negotiators race to reach a deal before new U.S. tariffs take effect
    on Aug.
    19. However, a poll last month suggested 69 per cent of Canadians said
    they
    weren't likely to buy U.S. alcohol even if it returns to shelves. (Ethan
    Cairns/The Canadian Press)
    Changing tastes?

    The need to seek out alternatives is something that was seen in other
    parts of
    Canada, too.

    Quebec's liquor board, the Soci|-t|- des alcools du Qu|-bec (SAQ), said
    in its
    2026 annual report that "fans of U.S. wines have turned to
    counterparts from
    other regions" amid the ban.

    "Canadian wines, including Quebec wines, have gained popularity and
    now rank
    ahead of Australia's," the report said, adding that Austrian wines
    were also
    becoming more popular in "a sign that customers are curious and open to
    discovering new countries of origin."

    Nicole Raufeisen is director of operations at Grape Witches, a bar and
    wine
    bottle shop in Toronto that continued to sell U.S. wines it already had
    stocked when the ban came into effect.

    "We've slowly ticked away through those products. I think we're down
    to maybe
    just one or two different wines," she told CBC in an interview on Friday.

    If the ban is lifted, Raufeisen says she expects customers will again
    reach
    for wines they enjoy from the U.S., such as fuller-bodied reds from
    California. "People will go back because those wines are good, that
    market
    share is well-trodden, so to speak, and the visibility there is high."

    But she added that demand for American wines can also be attributed to
    trade
    barriers between provinces.

    While nine provincial premiers announced last month that they would
    introduce
    direct-to-consumer alcohol sales between provinces, Raufeisen says
    restrictions on wholesale wine sales between provinces remain a major
    challenge.

    "If there were no interprovincial barriers to the wholesale movement
    of wines,
    then it's possible that no one would miss any of the American wines," she
    said, noting that B.C. wines are comparable to those from California.

    Back in Ottawa, Gedz says Union Local 613 would probably bring U.S.
    booze back
    if the ban is lifted as part of a wider trade agreement between the two
    countries.

    But he says he doesn't expect American alcohol to be as popular as it
    once was
    because many Canadians "have exposed themselves to products that they
    may not
    have tried" without the ban in place."

    "I'm just hoping that those customers maintain their willingness for
    experimentation," Gedz said. "And you know what? If we stick it to the
    Americans for a little while longer, I'm cool with that."

    alcohol is a drug u fking addicts

    You are soaking in it.
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  • From Dude@punditster@gmail.com to alt.buddha.short.fat.guy on Sat Aug 8 14:12:45 2026
    From Newsgroup: alt.buddha.short.fat.guy

    On 8/8/2026 9:21 AM, Julian wrote:
    On 08/08/2026 17:08, Tara wrote:
    Trump really wants U.S. booze back on Canadian shelves. 18 months ago we
    pulled American booze off our shelves in responce to 25% American
    tariffs on
    Canadian goods.

    Now Trump is making it part of the 'deal' on trade and threatens 50%
    tariffs
    on free trade goods tied to USMCA or as we call it in Canada CUSMA. A big
    American demand in (non) negotiations is American booze back on our
    shelves.

    funny though,-a how some things come back and bite you in the arse.


    -aFrom-a CBC Aug. 8/26

    "U.S. booze might end up back on Canadian shelves, but have we lost
    the taste
    for it?
    Majority of Canadians say they won't buy American alcohol if it becomes
    available again, recent poll shows

    Two signs reading, 'Buy Canadian instead', in front of rows of Jack
    Daniel's
    whisky.
    A sign at a Vancouver liqour store in February last year encourages
    customers
    to consider purchasing Canadian alcohol. British Columbia and several
    other
    provinces have since pulled top selling American products from liquor
    store
    shelves in response to U.S. President Donald Trump's tariffs. (Ethan
    Cairns/The Canadian Press)
    Social Sharing

    Deb Anderson can't remember the last time she bought a product from
    the United
    States.

    Like many Canadians, the 65 year old from Prospect, N.S., said she's been
    alarmed by U.S. President Donald Trump's repeated threats against
    Canada rCo and
    she's been boycotting American goods in protest.

    So when she read on Friday that Canada was prepared to lift a ban on
    American
    alcohol sales as part of its trade negotiations with the Trump
    administration,
    Anderson says she felt disappointed.

    "But just because it goes back on the shelves doesn't mean that sales are
    going to go back to where they were. The damage has been done," she
    told CBC
    in an interview.

    Anderson says the "constant badgering and unfair negotiation
    practices" from
    the U.S. have "really give us a bad taste for all things American."

    -a Anderson doesn't appear to be alone in her feelings: Sixty-nine per
    cent of
    Canadians said they weren't likely to buy American alcohol if it goes
    back on
    store shelves, according to a Nanos Research poll published last month.

    Support for a continued boycott of U.S. alcohol was highest in British
    Columbia, where 80.9 per cent of respondents said they were unlikely or
    somewhat unlikely to buy U.S. booze again if it's made available.

    That was followed by 74.7 per cent of people in Ontario and 73.9 per
    cent of
    Quebecers who said the same, the poll found.

    With most Canadian provinces vowing to keep U.S. alcohol off store
    shelves in
    response to President Donald TrumprCOs latest tariff threats, CBCrCOs Eli >> Glasner
    asks: are the booze bans an effective pressure tactic or merely political
    symbolism rCo and an inconvenience for consumers.
    Steep decline in U.S. alcohol imports

    Industry sources with knowledge of Canada-U.S. trade negotiations told
    CBC
    News that the Canadian government was prepared to lift bans on alcohol
    sales
    as it negotiates possible concessions in exchange for U.S. tariff relief.

    Trump has threatened to impose 50 per cent tariffs on some Canadian
    goods on
    Aug. 19 if Canada fails to lift some retaliatory trade measures
    against the
    U.S., including the alcohol bans.

    Those bans date back to early last year, when several provinces
    removed U.S.
    alcohol from the shelves at their respective liquor boards in response to
    Trump slapping a 25-per-cent tariff on Canadian goods.

    Ivan Gedz, who owns the bar Union Local 613 in Ottawa, says his
    stockpile of
    American booze ran out two months after U.S. supplies were taken off the
    shelves at the Liquor Control Board of Ontario (LCBO) last year.

    But Gedz says customers at the bar, which had previously offered a
    wide range
    of American spirits, didn't bat an eye at not having access to bourbon
    and
    other alcohol made south of the border.

    Instead, the U.S. alcohol ban encouraged patrons to try booze they'd
    never had
    before.

    "There's nothing I love more than giving someone an Indian whisky and
    they're
    like, 'India? I didn't even know India made whisky,' " Gedz told CBC
    News in
    an interview. "They're producing excellent stuff rCo it's just we don't
    get a
    ton of it."
    A person's hands lift bottles of whisky off a shelf.
    A proposal to halt provincial bans on American booze was revealed
    Friday as
    negotiators race to reach a deal before new U.S. tariffs take effect
    on Aug.
    19. However, a poll last month suggested 69 per cent of Canadians said
    they
    weren't likely to buy U.S. alcohol even if it returns to shelves. (Ethan
    Cairns/The Canadian Press)
    Changing tastes?

    The need to seek out alternatives is something that was seen in other
    parts of
    Canada, too.

    Quebec's liquor board, the Soci|-t|- des alcools du Qu|-bec (SAQ), said
    in its
    2026 annual report that "fans of U.S. wines have turned to
    counterparts from
    other regions" amid the ban.

    "Canadian wines, including Quebec wines, have gained popularity and
    now rank
    ahead of Australia's," the report said, adding that Austrian wines
    were also
    becoming more popular in "a sign that customers are curious and open to
    discovering new countries of origin."

    Nicole Raufeisen is director of operations at Grape Witches, a bar and
    wine
    bottle shop in Toronto that continued to sell U.S. wines it already had
    stocked when the ban came into effect.

    "We've slowly ticked away through those products. I think we're down
    to maybe
    just one or two different wines," she told CBC in an interview on Friday.

    If the ban is lifted, Raufeisen says she expects customers will again
    reach
    for wines they enjoy from the U.S., such as fuller-bodied reds from
    California. "People will go back because those wines are good, that
    market
    share is well-trodden, so to speak, and the visibility there is high."

    But she added that demand for American wines can also be attributed to
    trade
    barriers between provinces.

    While nine provincial premiers announced last month that they would
    introduce
    direct-to-consumer alcohol sales between provinces, Raufeisen says
    restrictions on wholesale wine sales between provinces remain a major
    challenge.

    "If there were no interprovincial barriers to the wholesale movement
    of wines,
    then it's possible that no one would miss any of the American wines," she
    said, noting that B.C. wines are comparable to those from California.

    Back in Ottawa, Gedz says Union Local 613 would probably bring U.S.
    booze back
    if the ban is lifted as part of a wider trade agreement between the two
    countries.

    But he says he doesn't expect American alcohol to be as popular as it
    once was
    because many Canadians "have exposed themselves to products that they
    may not
    have tried" without the ban in place."

    "I'm just hoping that those customers maintain their willingness for
    experimentation," Gedz said. "And you know what? If we stick it to the
    Americans for a little while longer, I'm cool with that."

    They are desperate to sell it. The USA booze market is being
    decimated by a perfect storm of increasingly sober young, weed,
    tirzepatides and semaglutides.

    That being said, Jack Daniel's is widely considered the most popular and best-selling American whiskey brand in the United States by retail
    dominance.

    Having said that:

    While Jim Beam leads in global volume, Jack Daniel's holds the sales
    crown within the U.S. market.

    Just saying.
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  • From Tara@tsm@fastmail.ca to alt.buddha.short.fat.guy on Sat Aug 8 21:59:46 2026
    From Newsgroup: alt.buddha.short.fat.guy

    Dude <punditster@gmail.com> wrote:
    .

    That being said, Jack Daniel's is widely considered the most popular and best-selling American whiskey brand in the United States by retail dominance.

    Having said that:

    While Jim Beam leads in global volume, Jack Daniel's holds the sales
    crown within the U.S. market.

    Just saying.


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    bold character of rye creates flavor profiles that stand apart from Scotch barley or American corn-based whiskies. Canadian distillers have developed techniques for coaxing incredible flavor from rye that other countries
    cannot replicate.

    Top Canadian Whiskies.

    1. Crown Royal

    Crown Royal stands as the flagship brand of Canadian whisky. The distillery produces several expressions, but the flagship blend remains the benchmark against which other Canadian whiskies are measured. Founded in 1939 to commemorate the royal tour of King George VI, the brand has maintained its reputation for consistent quality over the decades.

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  • From Julian@julianlzb87@gmail.com to alt.buddha.short.fat.guy on Sat Aug 8 23:01:27 2026
    From Newsgroup: alt.buddha.short.fat.guy

    On 08/08/2026 22:12, Dude wrote:
    On 8/8/2026 9:21 AM, Julian wrote:
    On 08/08/2026 17:08, Tara wrote:
    Trump really wants U.S. booze back on Canadian shelves. 18 months ago we >>> pulled American booze off our shelves in responce to 25% American
    tariffs on
    Canadian goods.

    Now Trump is making it part of the 'deal' on trade and threatens 50%
    tariffs
    on free trade goods tied to USMCA or as we call it in Canada CUSMA. A
    big
    American demand in (non) negotiations is American booze back on our
    shelves.

    funny though,-a how some things come back and bite you in the arse.


    -aFrom-a CBC Aug. 8/26

    "U.S. booze might end up back on Canadian shelves, but have we lost
    the taste
    for it?
    Majority of Canadians say they won't buy American alcohol if it becomes
    available again, recent poll shows

    Two signs reading, 'Buy Canadian instead', in front of rows of Jack
    Daniel's
    whisky.
    A sign at a Vancouver liqour store in February last year encourages
    customers
    to consider purchasing Canadian alcohol. British Columbia and several
    other
    provinces have since pulled top selling American products from liquor
    store
    shelves in response to U.S. President Donald Trump's tariffs. (Ethan
    Cairns/The Canadian Press)
    Social Sharing

    Deb Anderson can't remember the last time she bought a product from
    the United
    States.

    Like many Canadians, the 65 year old from Prospect, N.S., said she's
    been
    alarmed by U.S. President Donald Trump's repeated threats against
    Canada rCo and
    she's been boycotting American goods in protest.

    So when she read on Friday that Canada was prepared to lift a ban on
    American
    alcohol sales as part of its trade negotiations with the Trump
    administration,
    Anderson says she felt disappointed.

    "But just because it goes back on the shelves doesn't mean that sales
    are
    going to go back to where they were. The damage has been done," she
    told CBC
    in an interview.

    Anderson says the "constant badgering and unfair negotiation
    practices" from
    the U.S. have "really give us a bad taste for all things American."

    -a Anderson doesn't appear to be alone in her feelings: Sixty-nine per
    cent of
    Canadians said they weren't likely to buy American alcohol if it goes
    back on
    store shelves, according to a Nanos Research poll published last month.

    Support for a continued boycott of U.S. alcohol was highest in British
    Columbia, where 80.9 per cent of respondents said they were unlikely or
    somewhat unlikely to buy U.S. booze again if it's made available.

    That was followed by 74.7 per cent of people in Ontario and 73.9 per
    cent of
    Quebecers who said the same, the poll found.

    With most Canadian provinces vowing to keep U.S. alcohol off store
    shelves in
    response to President Donald TrumprCOs latest tariff threats, CBCrCOs Eli >>> Glasner
    asks: are the booze bans an effective pressure tactic or merely
    political
    symbolism rCo and an inconvenience for consumers.
    Steep decline in U.S. alcohol imports

    Industry sources with knowledge of Canada-U.S. trade negotiations
    told CBC
    News that the Canadian government was prepared to lift bans on
    alcohol sales
    as it negotiates possible concessions in exchange for U.S. tariff
    relief.

    Trump has threatened to impose 50 per cent tariffs on some Canadian
    goods on
    Aug. 19 if Canada fails to lift some retaliatory trade measures
    against the
    U.S., including the alcohol bans.

    Those bans date back to early last year, when several provinces
    removed U.S.
    alcohol from the shelves at their respective liquor boards in
    response to
    Trump slapping a 25-per-cent tariff on Canadian goods.

    Ivan Gedz, who owns the bar Union Local 613 in Ottawa, says his
    stockpile of
    American booze ran out two months after U.S. supplies were taken off the >>> shelves at the Liquor Control Board of Ontario (LCBO) last year.

    But Gedz says customers at the bar, which had previously offered a
    wide range
    of American spirits, didn't bat an eye at not having access to
    bourbon and
    other alcohol made south of the border.

    Instead, the U.S. alcohol ban encouraged patrons to try booze they'd
    never had
    before.

    "There's nothing I love more than giving someone an Indian whisky and
    they're
    like, 'India? I didn't even know India made whisky,' " Gedz told CBC
    News in
    an interview. "They're producing excellent stuff rCo it's just we don't >>> get a
    ton of it."
    A person's hands lift bottles of whisky off a shelf.
    A proposal to halt provincial bans on American booze was revealed
    Friday as
    negotiators race to reach a deal before new U.S. tariffs take effect
    on Aug.
    19. However, a poll last month suggested 69 per cent of Canadians
    said they
    weren't likely to buy U.S. alcohol even if it returns to shelves. (Ethan >>> Cairns/The Canadian Press)
    Changing tastes?

    The need to seek out alternatives is something that was seen in other
    parts of
    Canada, too.

    Quebec's liquor board, the Soci|-t|- des alcools du Qu|-bec (SAQ), said >>> in its
    2026 annual report that "fans of U.S. wines have turned to
    counterparts from
    other regions" amid the ban.

    "Canadian wines, including Quebec wines, have gained popularity and
    now rank
    ahead of Australia's," the report said, adding that Austrian wines
    were also
    becoming more popular in "a sign that customers are curious and open to
    discovering new countries of origin."

    Nicole Raufeisen is director of operations at Grape Witches, a bar
    and wine
    bottle shop in Toronto that continued to sell U.S. wines it already had
    stocked when the ban came into effect.

    "We've slowly ticked away through those products. I think we're down
    to maybe
    just one or two different wines," she told CBC in an interview on
    Friday.

    If the ban is lifted, Raufeisen says she expects customers will again
    reach
    for wines they enjoy from the U.S., such as fuller-bodied reds from
    California. "People will go back because those wines are good, that
    market
    share is well-trodden, so to speak, and the visibility there is high."

    But she added that demand for American wines can also be attributed
    to trade
    barriers between provinces.

    While nine provincial premiers announced last month that they would
    introduce
    direct-to-consumer alcohol sales between provinces, Raufeisen says
    restrictions on wholesale wine sales between provinces remain a major
    challenge.

    "If there were no interprovincial barriers to the wholesale movement
    of wines,
    then it's possible that no one would miss any of the American wines,"
    she
    said, noting that B.C. wines are comparable to those from California.

    Back in Ottawa, Gedz says Union Local 613 would probably bring U.S.
    booze back
    if the ban is lifted as part of a wider trade agreement between the two
    countries.

    But he says he doesn't expect American alcohol to be as popular as it
    once was
    because many Canadians "have exposed themselves to products that they
    may not
    have tried" without the ban in place."

    "I'm just hoping that those customers maintain their willingness for
    experimentation," Gedz said. "And you know what? If we stick it to the
    Americans for a little while longer, I'm cool with that."

    They are desperate to sell it. The USA booze market is being
    decimated by a perfect storm of increasingly sober young, weed,
    tirzepatides and semaglutides.

    That being said, Jack Daniel's is widely considered the most popular and best-selling American whiskey brand in the United States by retail dominance.

    Having said that:

    While Jim Beam leads in global volume, Jack Daniel's holds the sales
    crown within the U.S. market.

    Just saying.
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gx6KFhupgHM
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  • From dart200@user7160@newsgrouper.org.invalid to alt.buddha.short.fat.guy,alt.messianic on Sat Aug 8 15:21:49 2026
    From Newsgroup: alt.buddha.short.fat.guy

    On 8/8/26 1:15 PM, Dude wrote:
    On 8/8/2026 9:16 AM, dart200 wrote:
    On 8/8/26 9:08 AM, Tara wrote:
    Trump really wants U.S. booze back on Canadian shelves. 18 months ago we >>> pulled American booze off our shelves in responce to 25% American
    tariffs on
    Canadian goods.

    Now Trump is making it part of the 'deal' on trade and threatens 50%
    tariffs
    on free trade goods tied to USMCA or as we call it in Canada CUSMA. A
    big
    American demand in (non) negotiations is American booze back on our
    shelves.

    funny though,-a how some things come back and bite you in the arse.


    -aFrom-a CBC Aug. 8/26

    "U.S. booze might end up back on Canadian shelves, but have we lost
    the taste
    for it?
    Majority of Canadians say they won't buy American alcohol if it becomes
    available again, recent poll shows

    Two signs reading, 'Buy Canadian instead', in front of rows of Jack
    Daniel's
    whisky.
    A sign at a Vancouver liqour store in February last year encourages
    customers
    to consider purchasing Canadian alcohol. British Columbia and several
    other
    provinces have since pulled top selling American products from liquor
    store
    shelves in response to U.S. President Donald Trump's tariffs. (Ethan
    Cairns/The Canadian Press)
    Social Sharing

    Deb Anderson can't remember the last time she bought a product from
    the United
    States.

    Like many Canadians, the 65 year old from Prospect, N.S., said she's
    been
    alarmed by U.S. President Donald Trump's repeated threats against
    Canada rCo and
    she's been boycotting American goods in protest.

    So when she read on Friday that Canada was prepared to lift a ban on
    American
    alcohol sales as part of its trade negotiations with the Trump
    administration,
    Anderson says she felt disappointed.

    "But just because it goes back on the shelves doesn't mean that sales
    are
    going to go back to where they were. The damage has been done," she
    told CBC
    in an interview.

    Anderson says the "constant badgering and unfair negotiation
    practices" from
    the U.S. have "really give us a bad taste for all things American."

    -a Anderson doesn't appear to be alone in her feelings: Sixty-nine per
    cent of
    Canadians said they weren't likely to buy American alcohol if it goes
    back on
    store shelves, according to a Nanos Research poll published last month.

    Support for a continued boycott of U.S. alcohol was highest in British
    Columbia, where 80.9 per cent of respondents said they were unlikely or
    somewhat unlikely to buy U.S. booze again if it's made available.

    That was followed by 74.7 per cent of people in Ontario and 73.9 per
    cent of
    Quebecers who said the same, the poll found.

    With most Canadian provinces vowing to keep U.S. alcohol off store
    shelves in
    response to President Donald TrumprCOs latest tariff threats, CBCrCOs Eli >>> Glasner
    asks: are the booze bans an effective pressure tactic or merely
    political
    symbolism rCo and an inconvenience for consumers.
    Steep decline in U.S. alcohol imports

    Industry sources with knowledge of Canada-U.S. trade negotiations
    told CBC
    News that the Canadian government was prepared to lift bans on
    alcohol sales
    as it negotiates possible concessions in exchange for U.S. tariff
    relief.

    Trump has threatened to impose 50 per cent tariffs on some Canadian
    goods on
    Aug. 19 if Canada fails to lift some retaliatory trade measures
    against the
    U.S., including the alcohol bans.

    Those bans date back to early last year, when several provinces
    removed U.S.
    alcohol from the shelves at their respective liquor boards in
    response to
    Trump slapping a 25-per-cent tariff on Canadian goods.

    Ivan Gedz, who owns the bar Union Local 613 in Ottawa, says his
    stockpile of
    American booze ran out two months after U.S. supplies were taken off the >>> shelves at the Liquor Control Board of Ontario (LCBO) last year.

    But Gedz says customers at the bar, which had previously offered a
    wide range
    of American spirits, didn't bat an eye at not having access to
    bourbon and
    other alcohol made south of the border.

    Instead, the U.S. alcohol ban encouraged patrons to try booze they'd
    never had
    before.

    "There's nothing I love more than giving someone an Indian whisky and
    they're
    like, 'India? I didn't even know India made whisky,' " Gedz told CBC
    News in
    an interview. "They're producing excellent stuff rCo it's just we don't >>> get a
    ton of it."
    A person's hands lift bottles of whisky off a shelf.
    A proposal to halt provincial bans on American booze was revealed
    Friday as
    negotiators race to reach a deal before new U.S. tariffs take effect
    on Aug.
    19. However, a poll last month suggested 69 per cent of Canadians
    said they
    weren't likely to buy U.S. alcohol even if it returns to shelves. (Ethan >>> Cairns/The Canadian Press)
    Changing tastes?

    The need to seek out alternatives is something that was seen in other
    parts of
    Canada, too.

    Quebec's liquor board, the Soci|-t|- des alcools du Qu|-bec (SAQ), said >>> in its
    2026 annual report that "fans of U.S. wines have turned to
    counterparts from
    other regions" amid the ban.

    "Canadian wines, including Quebec wines, have gained popularity and
    now rank
    ahead of Australia's," the report said, adding that Austrian wines
    were also
    becoming more popular in "a sign that customers are curious and open to
    discovering new countries of origin."

    Nicole Raufeisen is director of operations at Grape Witches, a bar
    and wine
    bottle shop in Toronto that continued to sell U.S. wines it already had
    stocked when the ban came into effect.

    "We've slowly ticked away through those products. I think we're down
    to maybe
    just one or two different wines," she told CBC in an interview on
    Friday.

    If the ban is lifted, Raufeisen says she expects customers will again
    reach
    for wines they enjoy from the U.S., such as fuller-bodied reds from
    California. "People will go back because those wines are good, that
    market
    share is well-trodden, so to speak, and the visibility there is high."

    But she added that demand for American wines can also be attributed
    to trade
    barriers between provinces.

    While nine provincial premiers announced last month that they would
    introduce
    direct-to-consumer alcohol sales between provinces, Raufeisen says
    restrictions on wholesale wine sales between provinces remain a major
    challenge.

    "If there were no interprovincial barriers to the wholesale movement
    of wines,
    then it's possible that no one would miss any of the American wines,"
    she
    said, noting that B.C. wines are comparable to those from California.

    Back in Ottawa, Gedz says Union Local 613 would probably bring U.S.
    booze back
    if the ban is lifted as part of a wider trade agreement between the two
    countries.

    But he says he doesn't expect American alcohol to be as popular as it
    once was
    because many Canadians "have exposed themselves to products that they
    may not
    have tried" without the ban in place."

    "I'm just hoping that those customers maintain their willingness for
    experimentation," Gedz said. "And you know what? If we stick it to the
    Americans for a little while longer, I'm cool with that."

    alcohol is a drug u fking addicts

    You are soaking in it.

    i'm not tho ...
    --
    why are we god?
    let's end war EfOa

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