• Rod Liddle on Schooling

    From Dude@punditster@gmail.com to alt.buddha.short.fat.guy on Thu Aug 6 09:33:45 2026
    From Newsgroup: alt.buddha.short.fat.guy

    Posted: by Julian, Jun 23, 2023, 11:45:25rC>AM:

    The trouble with teachers by Rod Liddle

    A teacher once told me that he couldnrCOt stand Pakistanis rCybecause of the smellrCO. I was 13 at the time and it was during a classroom debate about immigration: he was very much agin, I was for. It struck me, suddenly,
    that he was very stupid rCo an astonishing realisation, as I was
    accustomed to believing teachers to be full of wisdom, a delusion
    inculcated in me by my parents.

    This all took place in a very large comprehensive school in the
    north-east of England rCo a good school by and large, but almost entirely white. Of the 1,800 pupils only one was not: a quiet lad of Chinese
    Malay extraction, I think, who was known to all the pupils and a good
    few of the teachers as rCyFu ManchurCO. In fact, there was another non-white face in the crowd, but we didnrCOt know it at the time. It was only 20
    years later that I realised my friend Jim was half Indian. He kept that
    pretty quiet.

    All of this dates me fairly precisely. Such racist attitudes would today
    be front-page news and there would be government inquiries. Just as
    dated is my parentsrCO deference, and the deference shown by society in general, towards teachers. Over the intervening 50 years, society has
    become more diverse and so necessarily more tolerant and accepting rCo
    and, by some sort of strange inversion, teachers have become far more
    stupid. They had their stupidities then, of course, but not on a par
    with the sort of stuff we see today. That is one reason why parents are disinclined to show them deference. Another is that deference is pretty
    much dead meat rCo gone the way of similarly despised qualities such as discipline, respect, obedience etc.

    Should there be any hope, it lies with the children rCo certainly if the
    Church of England school, Rye College, in East Sussex, is anything to go
    by. Two Year 8 pupils (what we used to call second years) recorded a
    truly cretinous teacher hectoring and bullying them about their views
    regarding gender. The kids had made the eminently reasonable observation
    that a fellow pupil who wished to identify as a cat was seriously
    mentally unwell and should not be indulged in her delusion by the staff.
    The teacher reacted with fury, heightened when the girls insisted that
    there were two genders and that you could not be rCyagenderrCO. She shouted: rCyWhat do you mean you canrCOt have it? ItrCOs not a lawrCa Cisgender is not necessarily the way to be. You are talking about the fact that cisgender
    is the norm, that you identify with the gender of the sexual organ you
    were born with or yourCOre weird, thatrCOs basically what yourCOre saying, which is really despicable.rCO She then said she would be reporting the
    girls to the assistant head and suggested that if they continued to
    think in that manner they should find another school.

    Obviously, the teacher should be sacked rCo and the head too, given the schoolrCOs refusal to accept that what this teacher did was not merely
    stupid, but evil. You do not call your pupils rCydespicablerCO and tell them
    to find another school when they are simply telling the truth rCo a very
    easily demonstrable truth.

    So, let us raise a glass to these two canny schoolgirls who recognised
    that their teacher was a halfwit dedicated to lying to her charges and
    had the perspicacity to record her doing so. But maybe there is a
    general rebellion under way, because after a bit of digging, the Daily Telegraph, which first reported the story, discovered that in schools up
    and down the country, loads of children are cheerfully identifying as
    animals. They include one child who identifies as a dinosaur and, best
    of all, thererCOs another who identifies as a moon.

    I daresay a small number of these kids are genuinely disturbed, but my suspicion is that the majority of them are indulging in that excellent
    British pastime of taking the piss. They are aware that the whole self-identification thing is a counter-rational absurdity which has been swallowed whole by the idiots who teach them every day and they are
    determined to have a good laugh at the expense of the staff.

    It all made me terribly nostalgic for my schooldays and the fun I might
    have today at, say, Rye College, if I were a second-year pupil. I can
    imagine identifying as having handed in my homework, for a start,
    despite comprehensive evidence to the contrary. I would inform the
    teaching staff that while I was entirely relaxed about what pronouns
    should be used when addressing me, I did insist upon the teachers using
    my preferred adjectives. In future I should be addressed directly, and
    referred to, as rCythe stupendously brilliant Rod LiddlerCO. I would also demand the right to run in girlsrCO sports races and use whatever lavatory
    I fancied, depending on which of the several hundred imagined genders I
    was identifying as on that particular day. I would exhort all the
    children to do likewise rCo and thus utterly destroy this ludicrous and damaging ideology by exposing its obvious inconsistencies and
    unrealities, laughing at teacher as they do so.

    Teachers regularly complain that their biggest bugbear is the parents rCo
    and as I mentioned, it is true that these days parents are more inclined
    to take the side of their kids in disputes. Back in the 1970s, by
    contrast, if I was punished for wrongdoing in school, my parents would
    simply say I deserved it and probably punish me a bit more for good measure.

    But one of the reasons this shift has taken place is that, captured by a fatuous ideology to which only a tiny minority of the population
    adheres, the teachers have encroached upon territory which more properly
    should lie in the domain of the parents rCo and they are rightly resented
    for it. That, and the fact that seemingly many of them are that very
    worst of combinations: dim and totalitarian.

    Rod Liddle

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  • From Tara@tsm@fastmail.ca to alt.buddha.short.fat.guy on Thu Aug 6 17:12:02 2026
    From Newsgroup: alt.buddha.short.fat.guy

    On Aug 6, 2026 at 12:33:45rC>PM EDT, "Dude" <punditster@gmail.com> wrote:

    Posted: by Julian, Jun 23, 2023, 11:45:25rC>AM:

    The trouble with teachers by Rod Liddle

    A teacher once told me that he couldnrCOt stand Pakistanis rCybecause of the smellrCO. I was 13 at the time and it was during a classroom debate about immigration: he was very much agin, I was for. It struck me, suddenly,
    that he was very stupid rCo an astonishing realisation, as I was
    accustomed to believing teachers to be full of wisdom, a delusion
    inculcated in me by my parents.

    This all took place in a very large comprehensive school in the
    north-east of England rCo a good school by and large, but almost entirely white. Of the 1,800 pupils only one was not: a quiet lad of Chinese
    Malay extraction, I think, who was known to all the pupils and a good
    few of the teachers as rCyFu ManchurCO. In fact, there was another non-white face in the crowd, but we didnrCOt know it at the time. It was only 20
    years later that I realised my friend Jim was half Indian. He kept that pretty quiet.

    All of this dates me fairly precisely. Such racist attitudes would today
    be front-page news and there would be government inquiries. Just as
    dated is my parentsrCO deference, and the deference shown by society in general, towards teachers. Over the intervening 50 years, society has
    become more diverse and so necessarily more tolerant and accepting rCo
    and, by some sort of strange inversion, teachers have become far more
    stupid. They had their stupidities then, of course, but not on a par
    with the sort of stuff we see today. That is one reason why parents are disinclined to show them deference. Another is that deference is pretty
    much dead meat rCo gone the way of similarly despised qualities such as discipline, respect, obedience etc.

    Should there be any hope, it lies with the children rCo certainly if the Church of England school, Rye College, in East Sussex, is anything to go
    by. Two Year 8 pupils (what we used to call second years) recorded a
    truly cretinous teacher hectoring and bullying them about their views regarding gender. The kids had made the eminently reasonable observation
    that a fellow pupil who wished to identify as a cat was seriously
    mentally unwell and should not be indulged in her delusion by the staff.
    The teacher reacted with fury, heightened when the girls insisted that
    there were two genders and that you could not be rCyagenderrCO. She shouted: rCyWhat do you mean you canrCOt have it? ItrCOs not a lawrCa Cisgender is not necessarily the way to be. You are talking about the fact that cisgender
    is the norm, that you identify with the gender of the sexual organ you
    were born with or yourCOre weird, thatrCOs basically what yourCOre saying, which is really despicable.rCO She then said she would be reporting the
    girls to the assistant head and suggested that if they continued to
    think in that manner they should find another school.

    Obviously, the teacher should be sacked rCo and the head too, given the schoolrCOs refusal to accept that what this teacher did was not merely stupid, but evil. You do not call your pupils rCydespicablerCO and tell them to find another school when they are simply telling the truth rCo a very easily demonstrable truth.

    So, let us raise a glass to these two canny schoolgirls who recognised
    that their teacher was a halfwit dedicated to lying to her charges and
    had the perspicacity to record her doing so. But maybe there is a
    general rebellion under way, because after a bit of digging, the Daily Telegraph, which first reported the story, discovered that in schools up
    and down the country, loads of children are cheerfully identifying as animals. They include one child who identifies as a dinosaur and, best
    of all, thererCOs another who identifies as a moon.

    I daresay a small number of these kids are genuinely disturbed, but my suspicion is that the majority of them are indulging in that excellent British pastime of taking the piss. They are aware that the whole self-identification thing is a counter-rational absurdity which has been swallowed whole by the idiots who teach them every day and they are determined to have a good laugh at the expense of the staff.

    It all made me terribly nostalgic for my schooldays and the fun I might
    have today at, say, Rye College, if I were a second-year pupil. I can
    imagine identifying as having handed in my homework, for a start,
    despite comprehensive evidence to the contrary. I would inform the
    teaching staff that while I was entirely relaxed about what pronouns
    should be used when addressing me, I did insist upon the teachers using
    my preferred adjectives. In future I should be addressed directly, and referred to, as rCythe stupendously brilliant Rod LiddlerCO. I would also demand the right to run in girlsrCO sports races and use whatever lavatory
    I fancied, depending on which of the several hundred imagined genders I
    was identifying as on that particular day. I would exhort all the
    children to do likewise rCo and thus utterly destroy this ludicrous and damaging ideology by exposing its obvious inconsistencies and
    unrealities, laughing at teacher as they do so.

    Teachers regularly complain that their biggest bugbear is the parents rCo
    and as I mentioned, it is true that these days parents are more inclined
    to take the side of their kids in disputes. Back in the 1970s, by
    contrast, if I was punished for wrongdoing in school, my parents would
    simply say I deserved it and probably punish me a bit more for good measure.

    But one of the reasons this shift has taken place is that, captured by a fatuous ideology to which only a tiny minority of the population
    adheres, the teachers have encroached upon territory which more properly should lie in the domain of the parents rCo and they are rightly resented
    for it. That, and the fact that seemingly many of them are that very
    worst of combinations: dim and totalitarian.

    Rod Liddle

    If it's true, and I think it may be, that only a tiny minority of the population adhere to this ideology, why is it as dominent as it is in schools. When an ideology becomes as entrenched as it is (in Canada as well), it's really difficult to turn it around. Maybe the generation who are 'taking the piss' now will do it.
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  • From Julian@julianlzb87@gmail.com to alt.buddha.short.fat.guy on Thu Aug 6 18:30:46 2026
    From Newsgroup: alt.buddha.short.fat.guy

    On 06/08/2026 18:12, Tara wrote:
    On Aug 6, 2026 at 12:33:45rC>PM EDT, "Dude" <punditster@gmail.com> wrote:

    Posted: by Julian, Jun 23, 2023, 11:45:25rC>AM:

    The trouble with teachers by Rod Liddle

    A teacher once told me that he couldnrCOt stand Pakistanis rCybecause of the >> smellrCO. I was 13 at the time and it was during a classroom debate about
    immigration: he was very much agin, I was for. It struck me, suddenly,
    that he was very stupid rCo an astonishing realisation, as I was
    accustomed to believing teachers to be full of wisdom, a delusion
    inculcated in me by my parents.

    This all took place in a very large comprehensive school in the
    north-east of England rCo a good school by and large, but almost entirely
    white. Of the 1,800 pupils only one was not: a quiet lad of Chinese
    Malay extraction, I think, who was known to all the pupils and a good
    few of the teachers as rCyFu ManchurCO. In fact, there was another non-white >> face in the crowd, but we didnrCOt know it at the time. It was only 20
    years later that I realised my friend Jim was half Indian. He kept that
    pretty quiet.

    All of this dates me fairly precisely. Such racist attitudes would today
    be front-page news and there would be government inquiries. Just as
    dated is my parentsrCO deference, and the deference shown by society in
    general, towards teachers. Over the intervening 50 years, society has
    become more diverse and so necessarily more tolerant and accepting rCo
    and, by some sort of strange inversion, teachers have become far more
    stupid. They had their stupidities then, of course, but not on a par
    with the sort of stuff we see today. That is one reason why parents are
    disinclined to show them deference. Another is that deference is pretty
    much dead meat rCo gone the way of similarly despised qualities such as
    discipline, respect, obedience etc.

    Should there be any hope, it lies with the children rCo certainly if the
    Church of England school, Rye College, in East Sussex, is anything to go
    by. Two Year 8 pupils (what we used to call second years) recorded a
    truly cretinous teacher hectoring and bullying them about their views
    regarding gender. The kids had made the eminently reasonable observation
    that a fellow pupil who wished to identify as a cat was seriously
    mentally unwell and should not be indulged in her delusion by the staff.
    The teacher reacted with fury, heightened when the girls insisted that
    there were two genders and that you could not be rCyagenderrCO. She shouted: >> rCyWhat do you mean you canrCOt have it? ItrCOs not a lawrCa Cisgender is not
    necessarily the way to be. You are talking about the fact that cisgender
    is the norm, that you identify with the gender of the sexual organ you
    were born with or yourCOre weird, thatrCOs basically what yourCOre saying, >> which is really despicable.rCO She then said she would be reporting the
    girls to the assistant head and suggested that if they continued to
    think in that manner they should find another school.

    Obviously, the teacher should be sacked rCo and the head too, given the
    schoolrCOs refusal to accept that what this teacher did was not merely
    stupid, but evil. You do not call your pupils rCydespicablerCO and tell them >> to find another school when they are simply telling the truth rCo a very
    easily demonstrable truth.

    So, let us raise a glass to these two canny schoolgirls who recognised
    that their teacher was a halfwit dedicated to lying to her charges and
    had the perspicacity to record her doing so. But maybe there is a
    general rebellion under way, because after a bit of digging, the Daily
    Telegraph, which first reported the story, discovered that in schools up
    and down the country, loads of children are cheerfully identifying as
    animals. They include one child who identifies as a dinosaur and, best
    of all, thererCOs another who identifies as a moon.

    I daresay a small number of these kids are genuinely disturbed, but my
    suspicion is that the majority of them are indulging in that excellent
    British pastime of taking the piss. They are aware that the whole
    self-identification thing is a counter-rational absurdity which has been
    swallowed whole by the idiots who teach them every day and they are
    determined to have a good laugh at the expense of the staff.

    It all made me terribly nostalgic for my schooldays and the fun I might
    have today at, say, Rye College, if I were a second-year pupil. I can
    imagine identifying as having handed in my homework, for a start,
    despite comprehensive evidence to the contrary. I would inform the
    teaching staff that while I was entirely relaxed about what pronouns
    should be used when addressing me, I did insist upon the teachers using
    my preferred adjectives. In future I should be addressed directly, and
    referred to, as rCythe stupendously brilliant Rod LiddlerCO. I would also
    demand the right to run in girlsrCO sports races and use whatever lavatory >> I fancied, depending on which of the several hundred imagined genders I
    was identifying as on that particular day. I would exhort all the
    children to do likewise rCo and thus utterly destroy this ludicrous and
    damaging ideology by exposing its obvious inconsistencies and
    unrealities, laughing at teacher as they do so.

    Teachers regularly complain that their biggest bugbear is the parents rCo
    and as I mentioned, it is true that these days parents are more inclined
    to take the side of their kids in disputes. Back in the 1970s, by
    contrast, if I was punished for wrongdoing in school, my parents would
    simply say I deserved it and probably punish me a bit more for good measure. >>
    But one of the reasons this shift has taken place is that, captured by a
    fatuous ideology to which only a tiny minority of the population
    adheres, the teachers have encroached upon territory which more properly
    should lie in the domain of the parents rCo and they are rightly resented
    for it. That, and the fact that seemingly many of them are that very
    worst of combinations: dim and totalitarian.

    Rod Liddle

    If it's true, and I think it may be, that only a tiny minority of the population adhere to this ideology, why is it as dominent as it is in schools.

    To thrive and survive in the profession you have to play the game.

    Talent is a ball and chain.

    For generations, think Hippy shit, from top to bottom rank,
    the education system (blob) has grown up and compromised with
    the ideology. Like with many institutions if you point out the
    emperor is naked your career is over.

    The technical term is Ideological Subversion https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z1EA2ohrt5Q
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  • From Tara@tsm@fastmail.ca to alt.buddha.short.fat.guy on Thu Aug 6 18:21:46 2026
    From Newsgroup: alt.buddha.short.fat.guy

    On Aug 6, 2026 at 1:30:46rC>PM EDT, "Julian" <julianlzb87@gmail.com> wrote:

    On 06/08/2026 18:12, Tara wrote:
    On Aug 6, 2026 at 12:33:45rC>PM EDT, "Dude" <punditster@gmail.com> wrote:

    Posted: by Julian, Jun 23, 2023, 11:45:25rC>AM:

    The trouble with teachers by Rod Liddle

    A teacher once told me that he couldnrCOt stand Pakistanis rCybecause of the
    smellrCO. I was 13 at the time and it was during a classroom debate about >>> immigration: he was very much agin, I was for. It struck me, suddenly,
    that he was very stupid rCo an astonishing realisation, as I was
    accustomed to believing teachers to be full of wisdom, a delusion
    inculcated in me by my parents.

    This all took place in a very large comprehensive school in the
    north-east of England rCo a good school by and large, but almost entirely >>> white. Of the 1,800 pupils only one was not: a quiet lad of Chinese
    Malay extraction, I think, who was known to all the pupils and a good
    few of the teachers as rCyFu ManchurCO. In fact, there was another non-white
    face in the crowd, but we didnrCOt know it at the time. It was only 20
    years later that I realised my friend Jim was half Indian. He kept that
    pretty quiet.

    All of this dates me fairly precisely. Such racist attitudes would today >>> be front-page news and there would be government inquiries. Just as
    dated is my parentsrCO deference, and the deference shown by society in
    general, towards teachers. Over the intervening 50 years, society has
    become more diverse and so necessarily more tolerant and accepting rCo
    and, by some sort of strange inversion, teachers have become far more
    stupid. They had their stupidities then, of course, but not on a par
    with the sort of stuff we see today. That is one reason why parents are
    disinclined to show them deference. Another is that deference is pretty
    much dead meat rCo gone the way of similarly despised qualities such as
    discipline, respect, obedience etc.

    Should there be any hope, it lies with the children rCo certainly if the >>> Church of England school, Rye College, in East Sussex, is anything to go >>> by. Two Year 8 pupils (what we used to call second years) recorded a
    truly cretinous teacher hectoring and bullying them about their views
    regarding gender. The kids had made the eminently reasonable observation >>> that a fellow pupil who wished to identify as a cat was seriously
    mentally unwell and should not be indulged in her delusion by the staff. >>> The teacher reacted with fury, heightened when the girls insisted that
    there were two genders and that you could not be rCyagenderrCO. She shouted:
    rCyWhat do you mean you canrCOt have it? ItrCOs not a lawrCa Cisgender is not
    necessarily the way to be. You are talking about the fact that cisgender >>> is the norm, that you identify with the gender of the sexual organ you
    were born with or yourCOre weird, thatrCOs basically what yourCOre saying, >>> which is really despicable.rCO She then said she would be reporting the
    girls to the assistant head and suggested that if they continued to
    think in that manner they should find another school.

    Obviously, the teacher should be sacked rCo and the head too, given the
    schoolrCOs refusal to accept that what this teacher did was not merely
    stupid, but evil. You do not call your pupils rCydespicablerCO and tell them
    to find another school when they are simply telling the truth rCo a very >>> easily demonstrable truth.

    So, let us raise a glass to these two canny schoolgirls who recognised
    that their teacher was a halfwit dedicated to lying to her charges and
    had the perspicacity to record her doing so. But maybe there is a
    general rebellion under way, because after a bit of digging, the Daily
    Telegraph, which first reported the story, discovered that in schools up >>> and down the country, loads of children are cheerfully identifying as
    animals. They include one child who identifies as a dinosaur and, best
    of all, thererCOs another who identifies as a moon.

    I daresay a small number of these kids are genuinely disturbed, but my
    suspicion is that the majority of them are indulging in that excellent
    British pastime of taking the piss. They are aware that the whole
    self-identification thing is a counter-rational absurdity which has been >>> swallowed whole by the idiots who teach them every day and they are
    determined to have a good laugh at the expense of the staff.

    It all made me terribly nostalgic for my schooldays and the fun I might
    have today at, say, Rye College, if I were a second-year pupil. I can
    imagine identifying as having handed in my homework, for a start,
    despite comprehensive evidence to the contrary. I would inform the
    teaching staff that while I was entirely relaxed about what pronouns
    should be used when addressing me, I did insist upon the teachers using
    my preferred adjectives. In future I should be addressed directly, and
    referred to, as rCythe stupendously brilliant Rod LiddlerCO. I would also >>> demand the right to run in girlsrCO sports races and use whatever lavatory >>> I fancied, depending on which of the several hundred imagined genders I
    was identifying as on that particular day. I would exhort all the
    children to do likewise rCo and thus utterly destroy this ludicrous and
    damaging ideology by exposing its obvious inconsistencies and
    unrealities, laughing at teacher as they do so.

    Teachers regularly complain that their biggest bugbear is the parents rCo >>> and as I mentioned, it is true that these days parents are more inclined >>> to take the side of their kids in disputes. Back in the 1970s, by
    contrast, if I was punished for wrongdoing in school, my parents would
    simply say I deserved it and probably punish me a bit more for good measure.

    But one of the reasons this shift has taken place is that, captured by a >>> fatuous ideology to which only a tiny minority of the population
    adheres, the teachers have encroached upon territory which more properly >>> should lie in the domain of the parents rCo and they are rightly resented >>> for it. That, and the fact that seemingly many of them are that very
    worst of combinations: dim and totalitarian.

    Rod Liddle

    If it's true, and I think it may be, that only a tiny minority of the
    population adhere to this ideology, why is it as dominent as it is in schools.

    To thrive and survive in the profession you have to play the game.

    Talent is a ball and chain.

    For generations, think Hippy shit, from top to bottom rank,
    the education system (blob) has grown up and compromised with
    the ideology. Like with many institutions if you point out the
    emperor is naked your career is over.

    The technical term is Ideological Subversion https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z1EA2ohrt5Q

    All true.
    However, there are a lot of teachers in my area, on my street and those I've known and know through friends. It's about 50-50 I think, who believe in and practice the woke ideology willingly in school and in their parenting with the other half playing the game.. :(. But it's gradually turning around :)
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  • From Julian@julianlzb87@gmail.com to alt.buddha.short.fat.guy on Thu Aug 6 19:44:37 2026
    From Newsgroup: alt.buddha.short.fat.guy

    On 06/08/2026 19:21, Tara wrote:
    On Aug 6, 2026 at 1:30:46rC>PM EDT, "Julian" <julianlzb87@gmail.com> wrote:

    On 06/08/2026 18:12, Tara wrote:
    On Aug 6, 2026 at 12:33:45rC>PM EDT, "Dude" <punditster@gmail.com> wrote: >>>
    Posted: by Julian, Jun 23, 2023, 11:45:25rC>AM:

    The trouble with teachers by Rod Liddle

    A teacher once told me that he couldnrCOt stand Pakistanis rCybecause of the
    smellrCO. I was 13 at the time and it was during a classroom debate about >>>> immigration: he was very much agin, I was for. It struck me, suddenly, >>>> that he was very stupid rCo an astonishing realisation, as I was
    accustomed to believing teachers to be full of wisdom, a delusion
    inculcated in me by my parents.

    This all took place in a very large comprehensive school in the
    north-east of England rCo a good school by and large, but almost entirely >>>> white. Of the 1,800 pupils only one was not: a quiet lad of Chinese
    Malay extraction, I think, who was known to all the pupils and a good
    few of the teachers as rCyFu ManchurCO. In fact, there was another non-white
    face in the crowd, but we didnrCOt know it at the time. It was only 20 >>>> years later that I realised my friend Jim was half Indian. He kept that >>>> pretty quiet.

    All of this dates me fairly precisely. Such racist attitudes would today >>>> be front-page news and there would be government inquiries. Just as
    dated is my parentsrCO deference, and the deference shown by society in >>>> general, towards teachers. Over the intervening 50 years, society has
    become more diverse and so necessarily more tolerant and accepting rCo >>>> and, by some sort of strange inversion, teachers have become far more
    stupid. They had their stupidities then, of course, but not on a par
    with the sort of stuff we see today. That is one reason why parents are >>>> disinclined to show them deference. Another is that deference is pretty >>>> much dead meat rCo gone the way of similarly despised qualities such as >>>> discipline, respect, obedience etc.

    Should there be any hope, it lies with the children rCo certainly if the >>>> Church of England school, Rye College, in East Sussex, is anything to go >>>> by. Two Year 8 pupils (what we used to call second years) recorded a
    truly cretinous teacher hectoring and bullying them about their views
    regarding gender. The kids had made the eminently reasonable observation >>>> that a fellow pupil who wished to identify as a cat was seriously
    mentally unwell and should not be indulged in her delusion by the staff. >>>> The teacher reacted with fury, heightened when the girls insisted that >>>> there were two genders and that you could not be rCyagenderrCO. She shouted:
    rCyWhat do you mean you canrCOt have it? ItrCOs not a lawrCa Cisgender is not
    necessarily the way to be. You are talking about the fact that cisgender >>>> is the norm, that you identify with the gender of the sexual organ you >>>> were born with or yourCOre weird, thatrCOs basically what yourCOre saying, >>>> which is really despicable.rCO She then said she would be reporting the >>>> girls to the assistant head and suggested that if they continued to
    think in that manner they should find another school.

    Obviously, the teacher should be sacked rCo and the head too, given the >>>> schoolrCOs refusal to accept that what this teacher did was not merely >>>> stupid, but evil. You do not call your pupils rCydespicablerCO and tell them
    to find another school when they are simply telling the truth rCo a very >>>> easily demonstrable truth.

    So, let us raise a glass to these two canny schoolgirls who recognised >>>> that their teacher was a halfwit dedicated to lying to her charges and >>>> had the perspicacity to record her doing so. But maybe there is a
    general rebellion under way, because after a bit of digging, the Daily >>>> Telegraph, which first reported the story, discovered that in schools up >>>> and down the country, loads of children are cheerfully identifying as
    animals. They include one child who identifies as a dinosaur and, best >>>> of all, thererCOs another who identifies as a moon.

    I daresay a small number of these kids are genuinely disturbed, but my >>>> suspicion is that the majority of them are indulging in that excellent >>>> British pastime of taking the piss. They are aware that the whole
    self-identification thing is a counter-rational absurdity which has been >>>> swallowed whole by the idiots who teach them every day and they are
    determined to have a good laugh at the expense of the staff.

    It all made me terribly nostalgic for my schooldays and the fun I might >>>> have today at, say, Rye College, if I were a second-year pupil. I can
    imagine identifying as having handed in my homework, for a start,
    despite comprehensive evidence to the contrary. I would inform the
    teaching staff that while I was entirely relaxed about what pronouns
    should be used when addressing me, I did insist upon the teachers using >>>> my preferred adjectives. In future I should be addressed directly, and >>>> referred to, as rCythe stupendously brilliant Rod LiddlerCO. I would also >>>> demand the right to run in girlsrCO sports races and use whatever lavatory >>>> I fancied, depending on which of the several hundred imagined genders I >>>> was identifying as on that particular day. I would exhort all the
    children to do likewise rCo and thus utterly destroy this ludicrous and >>>> damaging ideology by exposing its obvious inconsistencies and
    unrealities, laughing at teacher as they do so.

    Teachers regularly complain that their biggest bugbear is the parents rCo >>>> and as I mentioned, it is true that these days parents are more inclined >>>> to take the side of their kids in disputes. Back in the 1970s, by
    contrast, if I was punished for wrongdoing in school, my parents would >>>> simply say I deserved it and probably punish me a bit more for good measure.

    But one of the reasons this shift has taken place is that, captured by a >>>> fatuous ideology to which only a tiny minority of the population
    adheres, the teachers have encroached upon territory which more properly >>>> should lie in the domain of the parents rCo and they are rightly resented >>>> for it. That, and the fact that seemingly many of them are that very
    worst of combinations: dim and totalitarian.

    Rod Liddle

    If it's true, and I think it may be, that only a tiny minority of the
    population adhere to this ideology, why is it as dominent as it is in schools.

    To thrive and survive in the profession you have to play the game.

    Talent is a ball and chain.

    For generations, think Hippy shit, from top to bottom rank,
    the education system (blob) has grown up and compromised with
    the ideology. Like with many institutions if you point out the
    emperor is naked your career is over.

    The technical term is Ideological Subversion
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z1EA2ohrt5Q

    All true.
    However, there are a lot of teachers in my area, on my street and those I've known and know through friends. It's about 50-50 I think, who believe in and practice the woke ideology willingly in school and in their parenting with the
    other half playing the game.. :(. But it's gradually turning around :)

    Yes, the teachers aren't the major problem as to an extent they're
    accessible to parents. The major problem is the massive ship of the
    education administration which, even if you could pirate in a skilled
    navigator the careerists would mutiny at every touch of the tiller.

    BTW Our new Education Sec is questioning the value of reading and
    writing even in English. The last one was happy just to cancel Latin.
    There's a bit of Pol Pot in this one. https://order-order.com/2026/07/28/education-secretary-says-spelling-and-grammar-tests-are-too-obscure-and-takes-aim-at-exams-and-ofsted/
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  • From Tara@tsm@fastmail.ca to alt.buddha.short.fat.guy on Thu Aug 6 19:06:06 2026
    From Newsgroup: alt.buddha.short.fat.guy

    On Aug 6, 2026 at 2:44:37rC>PM EDT, "Julian" <julianlzb87@gmail.com> wrote:

    On 06/08/2026 19:21, Tara wrote:
    On Aug 6, 2026 at 1:30:46rC>PM EDT, "Julian" <julianlzb87@gmail.com> wrote: >>
    On 06/08/2026 18:12, Tara wrote:
    On Aug 6, 2026 at 12:33:45rC>PM EDT, "Dude" <punditster@gmail.com> wrote: >>>>
    Posted: by Julian, Jun 23, 2023, 11:45:25rC>AM:

    The trouble with teachers by Rod Liddle

    A teacher once told me that he couldnrCOt stand Pakistanis rCybecause of the
    smellrCO. I was 13 at the time and it was during a classroom debate about >>>>> immigration: he was very much agin, I was for. It struck me, suddenly, >>>>> that he was very stupid rCo an astonishing realisation, as I was
    accustomed to believing teachers to be full of wisdom, a delusion
    inculcated in me by my parents.

    This all took place in a very large comprehensive school in the
    north-east of England rCo a good school by and large, but almost entirely >>>>> white. Of the 1,800 pupils only one was not: a quiet lad of Chinese
    Malay extraction, I think, who was known to all the pupils and a good >>>>> few of the teachers as rCyFu ManchurCO. In fact, there was another non-white
    face in the crowd, but we didnrCOt know it at the time. It was only 20 >>>>> years later that I realised my friend Jim was half Indian. He kept that >>>>> pretty quiet.

    All of this dates me fairly precisely. Such racist attitudes would today >>>>> be front-page news and there would be government inquiries. Just as
    dated is my parentsrCO deference, and the deference shown by society in >>>>> general, towards teachers. Over the intervening 50 years, society has >>>>> become more diverse and so necessarily more tolerant and accepting rCo >>>>> and, by some sort of strange inversion, teachers have become far more >>>>> stupid. They had their stupidities then, of course, but not on a par >>>>> with the sort of stuff we see today. That is one reason why parents are >>>>> disinclined to show them deference. Another is that deference is pretty >>>>> much dead meat rCo gone the way of similarly despised qualities such as >>>>> discipline, respect, obedience etc.

    Should there be any hope, it lies with the children rCo certainly if the >>>>> Church of England school, Rye College, in East Sussex, is anything to go >>>>> by. Two Year 8 pupils (what we used to call second years) recorded a >>>>> truly cretinous teacher hectoring and bullying them about their views >>>>> regarding gender. The kids had made the eminently reasonable observation >>>>> that a fellow pupil who wished to identify as a cat was seriously
    mentally unwell and should not be indulged in her delusion by the staff. >>>>> The teacher reacted with fury, heightened when the girls insisted that >>>>> there were two genders and that you could not be rCyagenderrCO. She shouted:
    rCyWhat do you mean you canrCOt have it? ItrCOs not a lawrCa Cisgender is not
    necessarily the way to be. You are talking about the fact that cisgender >>>>> is the norm, that you identify with the gender of the sexual organ you >>>>> were born with or yourCOre weird, thatrCOs basically what yourCOre saying,
    which is really despicable.rCO She then said she would be reporting the >>>>> girls to the assistant head and suggested that if they continued to
    think in that manner they should find another school.

    Obviously, the teacher should be sacked rCo and the head too, given the >>>>> schoolrCOs refusal to accept that what this teacher did was not merely >>>>> stupid, but evil. You do not call your pupils rCydespicablerCO and tell them
    to find another school when they are simply telling the truth rCo a very >>>>> easily demonstrable truth.

    So, let us raise a glass to these two canny schoolgirls who recognised >>>>> that their teacher was a halfwit dedicated to lying to her charges and >>>>> had the perspicacity to record her doing so. But maybe there is a
    general rebellion under way, because after a bit of digging, the Daily >>>>> Telegraph, which first reported the story, discovered that in schools up >>>>> and down the country, loads of children are cheerfully identifying as >>>>> animals. They include one child who identifies as a dinosaur and, best >>>>> of all, thererCOs another who identifies as a moon.

    I daresay a small number of these kids are genuinely disturbed, but my >>>>> suspicion is that the majority of them are indulging in that excellent >>>>> British pastime of taking the piss. They are aware that the whole
    self-identification thing is a counter-rational absurdity which has been >>>>> swallowed whole by the idiots who teach them every day and they are
    determined to have a good laugh at the expense of the staff.

    It all made me terribly nostalgic for my schooldays and the fun I might >>>>> have today at, say, Rye College, if I were a second-year pupil. I can >>>>> imagine identifying as having handed in my homework, for a start,
    despite comprehensive evidence to the contrary. I would inform the
    teaching staff that while I was entirely relaxed about what pronouns >>>>> should be used when addressing me, I did insist upon the teachers using >>>>> my preferred adjectives. In future I should be addressed directly, and >>>>> referred to, as rCythe stupendously brilliant Rod LiddlerCO. I would also >>>>> demand the right to run in girlsrCO sports races and use whatever lavatory
    I fancied, depending on which of the several hundred imagined genders I >>>>> was identifying as on that particular day. I would exhort all the
    children to do likewise rCo and thus utterly destroy this ludicrous and >>>>> damaging ideology by exposing its obvious inconsistencies and
    unrealities, laughing at teacher as they do so.

    Teachers regularly complain that their biggest bugbear is the parents rCo >>>>> and as I mentioned, it is true that these days parents are more inclined >>>>> to take the side of their kids in disputes. Back in the 1970s, by
    contrast, if I was punished for wrongdoing in school, my parents would >>>>> simply say I deserved it and probably punish me a bit more for good measure.

    But one of the reasons this shift has taken place is that, captured by a >>>>> fatuous ideology to which only a tiny minority of the population
    adheres, the teachers have encroached upon territory which more properly >>>>> should lie in the domain of the parents rCo and they are rightly resented >>>>> for it. That, and the fact that seemingly many of them are that very >>>>> worst of combinations: dim and totalitarian.

    Rod Liddle

    If it's true, and I think it may be, that only a tiny minority of the
    population adhere to this ideology, why is it as dominent as it is in schools.

    To thrive and survive in the profession you have to play the game.

    Talent is a ball and chain.

    For generations, think Hippy shit, from top to bottom rank,
    the education system (blob) has grown up and compromised with
    the ideology. Like with many institutions if you point out the
    emperor is naked your career is over.

    The technical term is Ideological Subversion
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z1EA2ohrt5Q

    All true.
    However, there are a lot of teachers in my area, on my street and those I've >> known and know through friends. It's about 50-50 I think, who believe in and >> practice the woke ideology willingly in school and in their parenting with the
    other half playing the game.. :(. But it's gradually turning around :)

    Yes, the teachers aren't the major problem as to an extent they're
    accessible to parents. The major problem is the massive ship of the
    education administration which, even if you could pirate in a skilled navigator the careerists would mutiny at every touch of the tiller.

    BTW Our new Education Sec is questioning the value of reading and
    writing even in English. The last one was happy just to cancel Latin.
    There's a bit of Pol Pot in this one. https://order-order.com/2026/07/28/education-secretary-says-spelling-and-grammar-tests-are-too-obscure-and-takes-aim-at-exams-and-ofsted/

    When you actually read what they say and think, you know its real and almost bloody unbelievable.

    One little stupid:

    Oxford was too academic: rCLI just didnrCOt get on at Oxford. I mean it was academically very, very hard as well to be honest with you. Not that I wasnrCOt able to do that, but it was, it was quite, it was, those, those eras I think itrCOs got a bit better since then in that era. Academically it was a quite sink
    or swim. There was a lot of self-teaching, self-learning which I wasnrCOt really
    used to. And I, I found myself just in a, in an environment I wasnrCOt reallyrCa
    used to.rCY

    I mean, that's the point for gods sake - to teach self discipline and self-reliance just wow!
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  • From Julian@julianlzb87@gmail.com to alt.buddha.short.fat.guy on Thu Aug 6 20:36:55 2026
    From Newsgroup: alt.buddha.short.fat.guy

    On 06/08/2026 20:06, Tara wrote:
    On Aug 6, 2026 at 2:44:37rC>PM EDT, "Julian" <julianlzb87@gmail.com> wrote:

    On 06/08/2026 19:21, Tara wrote:
    On Aug 6, 2026 at 1:30:46rC>PM EDT, "Julian" <julianlzb87@gmail.com> wrote: >>>
    On 06/08/2026 18:12, Tara wrote:
    On Aug 6, 2026 at 12:33:45rC>PM EDT, "Dude" <punditster@gmail.com> wrote: >>>>>
    Posted: by Julian, Jun 23, 2023, 11:45:25rC>AM:

    The trouble with teachers by Rod Liddle

    A teacher once told me that he couldnrCOt stand Pakistanis rCybecause of the
    smellrCO. I was 13 at the time and it was during a classroom debate about
    immigration: he was very much agin, I was for. It struck me, suddenly, >>>>>> that he was very stupid rCo an astonishing realisation, as I was
    accustomed to believing teachers to be full of wisdom, a delusion
    inculcated in me by my parents.

    This all took place in a very large comprehensive school in the
    north-east of England rCo a good school by and large, but almost entirely
    white. Of the 1,800 pupils only one was not: a quiet lad of Chinese >>>>>> Malay extraction, I think, who was known to all the pupils and a good >>>>>> few of the teachers as rCyFu ManchurCO. In fact, there was another non-white
    face in the crowd, but we didnrCOt know it at the time. It was only 20 >>>>>> years later that I realised my friend Jim was half Indian. He kept that >>>>>> pretty quiet.

    All of this dates me fairly precisely. Such racist attitudes would today >>>>>> be front-page news and there would be government inquiries. Just as >>>>>> dated is my parentsrCO deference, and the deference shown by society in >>>>>> general, towards teachers. Over the intervening 50 years, society has >>>>>> become more diverse and so necessarily more tolerant and accepting rCo >>>>>> and, by some sort of strange inversion, teachers have become far more >>>>>> stupid. They had their stupidities then, of course, but not on a par >>>>>> with the sort of stuff we see today. That is one reason why parents are >>>>>> disinclined to show them deference. Another is that deference is pretty >>>>>> much dead meat rCo gone the way of similarly despised qualities such as >>>>>> discipline, respect, obedience etc.

    Should there be any hope, it lies with the children rCo certainly if the >>>>>> Church of England school, Rye College, in East Sussex, is anything to go >>>>>> by. Two Year 8 pupils (what we used to call second years) recorded a >>>>>> truly cretinous teacher hectoring and bullying them about their views >>>>>> regarding gender. The kids had made the eminently reasonable observation >>>>>> that a fellow pupil who wished to identify as a cat was seriously
    mentally unwell and should not be indulged in her delusion by the staff. >>>>>> The teacher reacted with fury, heightened when the girls insisted that >>>>>> there were two genders and that you could not be rCyagenderrCO. She shouted:
    rCyWhat do you mean you canrCOt have it? ItrCOs not a lawrCa Cisgender is not
    necessarily the way to be. You are talking about the fact that cisgender >>>>>> is the norm, that you identify with the gender of the sexual organ you >>>>>> were born with or yourCOre weird, thatrCOs basically what yourCOre saying,
    which is really despicable.rCO She then said she would be reporting the >>>>>> girls to the assistant head and suggested that if they continued to >>>>>> think in that manner they should find another school.

    Obviously, the teacher should be sacked rCo and the head too, given the >>>>>> schoolrCOs refusal to accept that what this teacher did was not merely >>>>>> stupid, but evil. You do not call your pupils rCydespicablerCO and tell them
    to find another school when they are simply telling the truth rCo a very >>>>>> easily demonstrable truth.

    So, let us raise a glass to these two canny schoolgirls who recognised >>>>>> that their teacher was a halfwit dedicated to lying to her charges and >>>>>> had the perspicacity to record her doing so. But maybe there is a
    general rebellion under way, because after a bit of digging, the Daily >>>>>> Telegraph, which first reported the story, discovered that in schools up >>>>>> and down the country, loads of children are cheerfully identifying as >>>>>> animals. They include one child who identifies as a dinosaur and, best >>>>>> of all, thererCOs another who identifies as a moon.

    I daresay a small number of these kids are genuinely disturbed, but my >>>>>> suspicion is that the majority of them are indulging in that excellent >>>>>> British pastime of taking the piss. They are aware that the whole
    self-identification thing is a counter-rational absurdity which has been >>>>>> swallowed whole by the idiots who teach them every day and they are >>>>>> determined to have a good laugh at the expense of the staff.

    It all made me terribly nostalgic for my schooldays and the fun I might >>>>>> have today at, say, Rye College, if I were a second-year pupil. I can >>>>>> imagine identifying as having handed in my homework, for a start,
    despite comprehensive evidence to the contrary. I would inform the >>>>>> teaching staff that while I was entirely relaxed about what pronouns >>>>>> should be used when addressing me, I did insist upon the teachers using >>>>>> my preferred adjectives. In future I should be addressed directly, and >>>>>> referred to, as rCythe stupendously brilliant Rod LiddlerCO. I would also
    demand the right to run in girlsrCO sports races and use whatever lavatory
    I fancied, depending on which of the several hundred imagined genders I >>>>>> was identifying as on that particular day. I would exhort all the
    children to do likewise rCo and thus utterly destroy this ludicrous and >>>>>> damaging ideology by exposing its obvious inconsistencies and
    unrealities, laughing at teacher as they do so.

    Teachers regularly complain that their biggest bugbear is the parents rCo
    and as I mentioned, it is true that these days parents are more inclined >>>>>> to take the side of their kids in disputes. Back in the 1970s, by
    contrast, if I was punished for wrongdoing in school, my parents would >>>>>> simply say I deserved it and probably punish me a bit more for good measure.

    But one of the reasons this shift has taken place is that, captured by a >>>>>> fatuous ideology to which only a tiny minority of the population
    adheres, the teachers have encroached upon territory which more properly >>>>>> should lie in the domain of the parents rCo and they are rightly resented
    for it. That, and the fact that seemingly many of them are that very >>>>>> worst of combinations: dim and totalitarian.

    Rod Liddle

    If it's true, and I think it may be, that only a tiny minority of the >>>>> population adhere to this ideology, why is it as dominent as it is in schools.

    To thrive and survive in the profession you have to play the game.

    Talent is a ball and chain.

    For generations, think Hippy shit, from top to bottom rank,
    the education system (blob) has grown up and compromised with
    the ideology. Like with many institutions if you point out the
    emperor is naked your career is over.

    The technical term is Ideological Subversion
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z1EA2ohrt5Q

    All true.
    However, there are a lot of teachers in my area, on my street and those I've
    known and know through friends. It's about 50-50 I think, who believe in and
    practice the woke ideology willingly in school and in their parenting with the
    other half playing the game.. :(. But it's gradually turning around :)

    Yes, the teachers aren't the major problem as to an extent they're
    accessible to parents. The major problem is the massive ship of the
    education administration which, even if you could pirate in a skilled
    navigator the careerists would mutiny at every touch of the tiller.

    BTW Our new Education Sec is questioning the value of reading and
    writing even in English. The last one was happy just to cancel Latin.
    There's a bit of Pol Pot in this one.
    https://order-order.com/2026/07/28/education-secretary-says-spelling-and-grammar-tests-are-too-obscure-and-takes-aim-at-exams-and-ofsted/

    When you actually read what they say and think, you know its real and almost bloody unbelievable.

    One little stupid:

    Oxford was too academic: rCLI just didnrCOt get on at Oxford. I mean it was academically very, very hard as well to be honest with you. Not that I wasnrCOt
    able to do that, but it was, it was quite, it was, those, those eras I think itrCOs got a bit better since then in that era. Academically it was a quite sink
    or swim. There was a lot of self-teaching, self-learning which I wasnrCOt really
    used to. And I, I found myself just in a, in an environment I wasnrCOt reallyrCa
    used to.rCY

    I mean, that's the point for gods sake - to teach self discipline and self-reliance just wow!

    That's why Blair diluted the national treasure by tripling the intake.
    Self discipline and self-discipline are kryptonite to their ideology.


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  • From Tara@tsm@fastmail.ca to alt.buddha.short.fat.guy on Thu Aug 6 19:43:23 2026
    From Newsgroup: alt.buddha.short.fat.guy

    On Aug 6, 2026 at 3:36:55rC>PM EDT, "Julian" <julianlzb87@gmail.com> wrote:

    On 06/08/2026 20:06, Tara wrote:
    On Aug 6, 2026 at 2:44:37rC>PM EDT, "Julian" <julianlzb87@gmail.com> wrote: >>
    On 06/08/2026 19:21, Tara wrote:
    On Aug 6, 2026 at 1:30:46rC>PM EDT, "Julian" <julianlzb87@gmail.com> wrote:

    On 06/08/2026 18:12, Tara wrote:
    On Aug 6, 2026 at 12:33:45rC>PM EDT, "Dude" <punditster@gmail.com> wrote:

    Posted: by Julian, Jun 23, 2023, 11:45:25rC>AM:

    The trouble with teachers by Rod Liddle

    A teacher once told me that he couldnrCOt stand Pakistanis rCybecause of the
    smellrCO. I was 13 at the time and it was during a classroom debate about
    immigration: he was very much agin, I was for. It struck me, suddenly, >>>>>>> that he was very stupid rCo an astonishing realisation, as I was >>>>>>> accustomed to believing teachers to be full of wisdom, a delusion >>>>>>> inculcated in me by my parents.

    This all took place in a very large comprehensive school in the
    north-east of England rCo a good school by and large, but almost entirely
    white. Of the 1,800 pupils only one was not: a quiet lad of Chinese >>>>>>> Malay extraction, I think, who was known to all the pupils and a good >>>>>>> few of the teachers as rCyFu ManchurCO. In fact, there was another non-white
    face in the crowd, but we didnrCOt know it at the time. It was only 20 >>>>>>> years later that I realised my friend Jim was half Indian. He kept that >>>>>>> pretty quiet.

    All of this dates me fairly precisely. Such racist attitudes would today
    be front-page news and there would be government inquiries. Just as >>>>>>> dated is my parentsrCO deference, and the deference shown by society in >>>>>>> general, towards teachers. Over the intervening 50 years, society has >>>>>>> become more diverse and so necessarily more tolerant and accepting rCo >>>>>>> and, by some sort of strange inversion, teachers have become far more >>>>>>> stupid. They had their stupidities then, of course, but not on a par >>>>>>> with the sort of stuff we see today. That is one reason why parents are >>>>>>> disinclined to show them deference. Another is that deference is pretty >>>>>>> much dead meat rCo gone the way of similarly despised qualities such as >>>>>>> discipline, respect, obedience etc.

    Should there be any hope, it lies with the children rCo certainly if the
    Church of England school, Rye College, in East Sussex, is anything to go
    by. Two Year 8 pupils (what we used to call second years) recorded a >>>>>>> truly cretinous teacher hectoring and bullying them about their views >>>>>>> regarding gender. The kids had made the eminently reasonable observation
    that a fellow pupil who wished to identify as a cat was seriously >>>>>>> mentally unwell and should not be indulged in her delusion by the staff.
    The teacher reacted with fury, heightened when the girls insisted that >>>>>>> there were two genders and that you could not be rCyagenderrCO. She shouted:
    rCyWhat do you mean you canrCOt have it? ItrCOs not a lawrCa Cisgender is not
    necessarily the way to be. You are talking about the fact that cisgender
    is the norm, that you identify with the gender of the sexual organ you >>>>>>> were born with or yourCOre weird, thatrCOs basically what yourCOre saying,
    which is really despicable.rCO She then said she would be reporting the >>>>>>> girls to the assistant head and suggested that if they continued to >>>>>>> think in that manner they should find another school.

    Obviously, the teacher should be sacked rCo and the head too, given the >>>>>>> schoolrCOs refusal to accept that what this teacher did was not merely >>>>>>> stupid, but evil. You do not call your pupils rCydespicablerCO and tell them
    to find another school when they are simply telling the truth rCo a very
    easily demonstrable truth.

    So, let us raise a glass to these two canny schoolgirls who recognised >>>>>>> that their teacher was a halfwit dedicated to lying to her charges and >>>>>>> had the perspicacity to record her doing so. But maybe there is a >>>>>>> general rebellion under way, because after a bit of digging, the Daily >>>>>>> Telegraph, which first reported the story, discovered that in schools up
    and down the country, loads of children are cheerfully identifying as >>>>>>> animals. They include one child who identifies as a dinosaur and, best >>>>>>> of all, thererCOs another who identifies as a moon.

    I daresay a small number of these kids are genuinely disturbed, but my >>>>>>> suspicion is that the majority of them are indulging in that excellent >>>>>>> British pastime of taking the piss. They are aware that the whole >>>>>>> self-identification thing is a counter-rational absurdity which has been
    swallowed whole by the idiots who teach them every day and they are >>>>>>> determined to have a good laugh at the expense of the staff.

    It all made me terribly nostalgic for my schooldays and the fun I might >>>>>>> have today at, say, Rye College, if I were a second-year pupil. I can >>>>>>> imagine identifying as having handed in my homework, for a start, >>>>>>> despite comprehensive evidence to the contrary. I would inform the >>>>>>> teaching staff that while I was entirely relaxed about what pronouns >>>>>>> should be used when addressing me, I did insist upon the teachers using >>>>>>> my preferred adjectives. In future I should be addressed directly, and >>>>>>> referred to, as rCythe stupendously brilliant Rod LiddlerCO. I would also
    demand the right to run in girlsrCO sports races and use whatever lavatory
    I fancied, depending on which of the several hundred imagined genders I >>>>>>> was identifying as on that particular day. I would exhort all the >>>>>>> children to do likewise rCo and thus utterly destroy this ludicrous and >>>>>>> damaging ideology by exposing its obvious inconsistencies and
    unrealities, laughing at teacher as they do so.

    Teachers regularly complain that their biggest bugbear is the parents rCo
    and as I mentioned, it is true that these days parents are more inclined
    to take the side of their kids in disputes. Back in the 1970s, by >>>>>>> contrast, if I was punished for wrongdoing in school, my parents would >>>>>>> simply say I deserved it and probably punish me a bit more for good measure.

    But one of the reasons this shift has taken place is that, captured by a
    fatuous ideology to which only a tiny minority of the population >>>>>>> adheres, the teachers have encroached upon territory which more properly
    should lie in the domain of the parents rCo and they are rightly resented
    for it. That, and the fact that seemingly many of them are that very >>>>>>> worst of combinations: dim and totalitarian.

    Rod Liddle

    If it's true, and I think it may be, that only a tiny minority of the >>>>>> population adhere to this ideology, why is it as dominent as it is in schools.

    To thrive and survive in the profession you have to play the game.

    Talent is a ball and chain.

    For generations, think Hippy shit, from top to bottom rank,
    the education system (blob) has grown up and compromised with
    the ideology. Like with many institutions if you point out the
    emperor is naked your career is over.

    The technical term is Ideological Subversion
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z1EA2ohrt5Q

    All true.
    However, there are a lot of teachers in my area, on my street and those I've
    known and know through friends. It's about 50-50 I think, who believe in and
    practice the woke ideology willingly in school and in their parenting with the
    other half playing the game.. :(. But it's gradually turning around :)

    Yes, the teachers aren't the major problem as to an extent they're
    accessible to parents. The major problem is the massive ship of the
    education administration which, even if you could pirate in a skilled
    navigator the careerists would mutiny at every touch of the tiller.

    BTW Our new Education Sec is questioning the value of reading and
    writing even in English. The last one was happy just to cancel Latin.
    There's a bit of Pol Pot in this one.
    https://order-order.com/2026/07/28/education-secretary-says-spelling-and-grammar-tests-are-too-obscure-and-takes-aim-at-exams-and-ofsted/

    When you actually read what they say and think, you know its real and almost >> bloody unbelievable.

    One little stupid:

    Oxford was too academic: rCLI just didnrCOt get on at Oxford. I mean it was >> academically very, very hard as well to be honest with you. Not that I wasnrCOt
    able to do that, but it was, it was quite, it was, those, those eras I think >> itrCOs got a bit better since then in that era. Academically it was a quite sink
    or swim. There was a lot of self-teaching, self-learning which I wasnrCOt really
    used to. And I, I found myself just in a, in an environment I wasnrCOt reallyrCa
    used to.rCY

    I mean, that's the point for gods sake - to teach self discipline and
    self-reliance just wow!

    That's why Blair diluted the national treasure by tripling the intake.
    Self discipline and self-discipline are kryptonite to their ideology.

    :(

    And she's the Education Secretary! I hadn't realized it was that bad there. My sympathies.
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  • From Dude@punditster@gmail.com to alt.buddha.short.fat.guy on Thu Aug 6 13:06:22 2026
    From Newsgroup: alt.buddha.short.fat.guy

    On 8/6/2026 12:06 PM, Tara wrote:
    On Aug 6, 2026 at 2:44:37rC>PM EDT, "Julian" <julianlzb87@gmail.com> wrote:

    On 06/08/2026 19:21, Tara wrote:
    On Aug 6, 2026 at 1:30:46rC>PM EDT, "Julian" <julianlzb87@gmail.com> wrote: >>>
    On 06/08/2026 18:12, Tara wrote:
    On Aug 6, 2026 at 12:33:45rC>PM EDT, "Dude" <punditster@gmail.com> wrote: >>>>>
    Posted: by Julian, Jun 23, 2023, 11:45:25rC>AM:

    The trouble with teachers by Rod Liddle

    A teacher once told me that he couldnrCOt stand Pakistanis rCybecause of the
    smellrCO. I was 13 at the time and it was during a classroom debate about
    immigration: he was very much agin, I was for. It struck me, suddenly, >>>>>> that he was very stupid rCo an astonishing realisation, as I was
    accustomed to believing teachers to be full of wisdom, a delusion
    inculcated in me by my parents.

    This all took place in a very large comprehensive school in the
    north-east of England rCo a good school by and large, but almost entirely
    white. Of the 1,800 pupils only one was not: a quiet lad of Chinese >>>>>> Malay extraction, I think, who was known to all the pupils and a good >>>>>> few of the teachers as rCyFu ManchurCO. In fact, there was another non-white
    face in the crowd, but we didnrCOt know it at the time. It was only 20 >>>>>> years later that I realised my friend Jim was half Indian. He kept that >>>>>> pretty quiet.

    All of this dates me fairly precisely. Such racist attitudes would today >>>>>> be front-page news and there would be government inquiries. Just as >>>>>> dated is my parentsrCO deference, and the deference shown by society in >>>>>> general, towards teachers. Over the intervening 50 years, society has >>>>>> become more diverse and so necessarily more tolerant and accepting rCo >>>>>> and, by some sort of strange inversion, teachers have become far more >>>>>> stupid. They had their stupidities then, of course, but not on a par >>>>>> with the sort of stuff we see today. That is one reason why parents are >>>>>> disinclined to show them deference. Another is that deference is pretty >>>>>> much dead meat rCo gone the way of similarly despised qualities such as >>>>>> discipline, respect, obedience etc.

    Should there be any hope, it lies with the children rCo certainly if the >>>>>> Church of England school, Rye College, in East Sussex, is anything to go >>>>>> by. Two Year 8 pupils (what we used to call second years) recorded a >>>>>> truly cretinous teacher hectoring and bullying them about their views >>>>>> regarding gender. The kids had made the eminently reasonable observation >>>>>> that a fellow pupil who wished to identify as a cat was seriously
    mentally unwell and should not be indulged in her delusion by the staff. >>>>>> The teacher reacted with fury, heightened when the girls insisted that >>>>>> there were two genders and that you could not be rCyagenderrCO. She shouted:
    rCyWhat do you mean you canrCOt have it? ItrCOs not a lawrCa Cisgender is not
    necessarily the way to be. You are talking about the fact that cisgender >>>>>> is the norm, that you identify with the gender of the sexual organ you >>>>>> were born with or yourCOre weird, thatrCOs basically what yourCOre saying,
    which is really despicable.rCO She then said she would be reporting the >>>>>> girls to the assistant head and suggested that if they continued to >>>>>> think in that manner they should find another school.

    Obviously, the teacher should be sacked rCo and the head too, given the >>>>>> schoolrCOs refusal to accept that what this teacher did was not merely >>>>>> stupid, but evil. You do not call your pupils rCydespicablerCO and tell them
    to find another school when they are simply telling the truth rCo a very >>>>>> easily demonstrable truth.

    So, let us raise a glass to these two canny schoolgirls who recognised >>>>>> that their teacher was a halfwit dedicated to lying to her charges and >>>>>> had the perspicacity to record her doing so. But maybe there is a
    general rebellion under way, because after a bit of digging, the Daily >>>>>> Telegraph, which first reported the story, discovered that in schools up >>>>>> and down the country, loads of children are cheerfully identifying as >>>>>> animals. They include one child who identifies as a dinosaur and, best >>>>>> of all, thererCOs another who identifies as a moon.

    I daresay a small number of these kids are genuinely disturbed, but my >>>>>> suspicion is that the majority of them are indulging in that excellent >>>>>> British pastime of taking the piss. They are aware that the whole
    self-identification thing is a counter-rational absurdity which has been >>>>>> swallowed whole by the idiots who teach them every day and they are >>>>>> determined to have a good laugh at the expense of the staff.

    It all made me terribly nostalgic for my schooldays and the fun I might >>>>>> have today at, say, Rye College, if I were a second-year pupil. I can >>>>>> imagine identifying as having handed in my homework, for a start,
    despite comprehensive evidence to the contrary. I would inform the >>>>>> teaching staff that while I was entirely relaxed about what pronouns >>>>>> should be used when addressing me, I did insist upon the teachers using >>>>>> my preferred adjectives. In future I should be addressed directly, and >>>>>> referred to, as rCythe stupendously brilliant Rod LiddlerCO. I would also
    demand the right to run in girlsrCO sports races and use whatever lavatory
    I fancied, depending on which of the several hundred imagined genders I >>>>>> was identifying as on that particular day. I would exhort all the
    children to do likewise rCo and thus utterly destroy this ludicrous and >>>>>> damaging ideology by exposing its obvious inconsistencies and
    unrealities, laughing at teacher as they do so.

    Teachers regularly complain that their biggest bugbear is the parents rCo
    and as I mentioned, it is true that these days parents are more inclined >>>>>> to take the side of their kids in disputes. Back in the 1970s, by
    contrast, if I was punished for wrongdoing in school, my parents would >>>>>> simply say I deserved it and probably punish me a bit more for good measure.

    But one of the reasons this shift has taken place is that, captured by a >>>>>> fatuous ideology to which only a tiny minority of the population
    adheres, the teachers have encroached upon territory which more properly >>>>>> should lie in the domain of the parents rCo and they are rightly resented
    for it. That, and the fact that seemingly many of them are that very >>>>>> worst of combinations: dim and totalitarian.

    Rod Liddle

    If it's true, and I think it may be, that only a tiny minority of the >>>>> population adhere to this ideology, why is it as dominent as it is in schools.

    To thrive and survive in the profession you have to play the game.

    Talent is a ball and chain.

    For generations, think Hippy shit, from top to bottom rank,
    the education system (blob) has grown up and compromised with
    the ideology. Like with many institutions if you point out the
    emperor is naked your career is over.

    The technical term is Ideological Subversion
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z1EA2ohrt5Q

    All true.
    However, there are a lot of teachers in my area, on my street and those I've
    known and know through friends. It's about 50-50 I think, who believe in and
    practice the woke ideology willingly in school and in their parenting with the
    other half playing the game.. :(. But it's gradually turning around :)

    Yes, the teachers aren't the major problem as to an extent they're
    accessible to parents. The major problem is the massive ship of the
    education administration which, even if you could pirate in a skilled
    navigator the careerists would mutiny at every touch of the tiller.

    BTW Our new Education Sec is questioning the value of reading and
    writing even in English. The last one was happy just to cancel Latin.
    There's a bit of Pol Pot in this one.
    https://order-order.com/2026/07/28/education-secretary-says-spelling-and-grammar-tests-are-too-obscure-and-takes-aim-at-exams-and-ofsted/

    When you actually read what they say and think, you know its real and almost bloody unbelievable.

    One little stupid:

    Oxford was too academic: rCLI just didnrCOt get on at Oxford. I mean it was academically very, very hard as well to be honest with you. Not that I wasnrCOt
    able to do that, but it was, it was quite, it was, those, those eras I think itrCOs got a bit better since then in that era. Academically it was a quite sink
    or swim. There was a lot of self-teaching, self-learning which I wasnrCOt really
    used to. And I, I found myself just in a, in an environment I wasnrCOt reallyrCa
    used to.rCY

    I mean, that's the point for gods sake - to teach self discipline and self-reliance just wow!

    A decades-long campaign to elevate people based on arbitrary
    characteristics (race, gender, sexual orientation) instead of merit.
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  • From Noah Sombrero@fedora@fea.st to alt.buddha.short.fat.guy on Thu Aug 6 16:15:36 2026
    From Newsgroup: alt.buddha.short.fat.guy

    On Thu, 6 Aug 2026 13:06:22 -0700, Dude <punditster@gmail.com> wrote:

    On 8/6/2026 12:06 PM, Tara wrote:
    On Aug 6, 2026 at 2:44:37?PM EDT, "Julian" <julianlzb87@gmail.com> wrote:

    On 06/08/2026 19:21, Tara wrote:
    On Aug 6, 2026 at 1:30:46?PM EDT, "Julian" <julianlzb87@gmail.com> wrote: >>>>
    On 06/08/2026 18:12, Tara wrote:
    On Aug 6, 2026 at 12:33:45?PM EDT, "Dude" <punditster@gmail.com> wrote: >>>>>>
    Posted: by Julian, Jun 23, 2023, 11:45:25?AM:

    The trouble with teachers by Rod Liddle

    A teacher once told me that he couldnAt stand Pakistanis abecause of the
    smellA. I was 13 at the time and it was during a classroom debate about >>>>>>> immigration: he was very much agin, I was for. It struck me, suddenly, >>>>>>> that he was very stupid u an astonishing realisation, as I was
    accustomed to believing teachers to be full of wisdom, a delusion >>>>>>> inculcated in me by my parents.

    This all took place in a very large comprehensive school in the
    north-east of England u a good school by and large, but almost entirely >>>>>>> white. Of the 1,800 pupils only one was not: a quiet lad of Chinese >>>>>>> Malay extraction, I think, who was known to all the pupils and a good >>>>>>> few of the teachers as aFu ManchuA. In fact, there was another non-white
    face in the crowd, but we didnAt know it at the time. It was only 20 >>>>>>> years later that I realised my friend Jim was half Indian. He kept that >>>>>>> pretty quiet.

    All of this dates me fairly precisely. Such racist attitudes would today
    be front-page news and there would be government inquiries. Just as >>>>>>> dated is my parentsA deference, and the deference shown by society in >>>>>>> general, towards teachers. Over the intervening 50 years, society has >>>>>>> become more diverse and so necessarily more tolerant and accepting u >>>>>>> and, by some sort of strange inversion, teachers have become far more >>>>>>> stupid. They had their stupidities then, of course, but not on a par >>>>>>> with the sort of stuff we see today. That is one reason why parents are >>>>>>> disinclined to show them deference. Another is that deference is pretty >>>>>>> much dead meat u gone the way of similarly despised qualities such as >>>>>>> discipline, respect, obedience etc.

    Should there be any hope, it lies with the children u certainly if the >>>>>>> Church of England school, Rye College, in East Sussex, is anything to go
    by. Two Year 8 pupils (what we used to call second years) recorded a >>>>>>> truly cretinous teacher hectoring and bullying them about their views >>>>>>> regarding gender. The kids had made the eminently reasonable observation
    that a fellow pupil who wished to identify as a cat was seriously >>>>>>> mentally unwell and should not be indulged in her delusion by the staff.
    The teacher reacted with fury, heightened when the girls insisted that >>>>>>> there were two genders and that you could not be aagenderA. She shouted:
    aWhat do you mean you canAt have it? ItAs not a lawa Cisgender is not >>>>>>> necessarily the way to be. You are talking about the fact that cisgender
    is the norm, that you identify with the gender of the sexual organ you >>>>>>> were born with or youAre weird, thatAs basically what youAre saying, >>>>>>> which is really despicable.A She then said she would be reporting the >>>>>>> girls to the assistant head and suggested that if they continued to >>>>>>> think in that manner they should find another school.

    Obviously, the teacher should be sacked u and the head too, given the >>>>>>> schoolAs refusal to accept that what this teacher did was not merely >>>>>>> stupid, but evil. You do not call your pupils adespicableA and tell them
    to find another school when they are simply telling the truth u a very >>>>>>> easily demonstrable truth.

    So, let us raise a glass to these two canny schoolgirls who recognised >>>>>>> that their teacher was a halfwit dedicated to lying to her charges and >>>>>>> had the perspicacity to record her doing so. But maybe there is a >>>>>>> general rebellion under way, because after a bit of digging, the Daily >>>>>>> Telegraph, which first reported the story, discovered that in schools up
    and down the country, loads of children are cheerfully identifying as >>>>>>> animals. They include one child who identifies as a dinosaur and, best >>>>>>> of all, thereAs another who identifies as a moon.

    I daresay a small number of these kids are genuinely disturbed, but my >>>>>>> suspicion is that the majority of them are indulging in that excellent >>>>>>> British pastime of taking the piss. They are aware that the whole >>>>>>> self-identification thing is a counter-rational absurdity which has been
    swallowed whole by the idiots who teach them every day and they are >>>>>>> determined to have a good laugh at the expense of the staff.

    It all made me terribly nostalgic for my schooldays and the fun I might >>>>>>> have today at, say, Rye College, if I were a second-year pupil. I can >>>>>>> imagine identifying as having handed in my homework, for a start, >>>>>>> despite comprehensive evidence to the contrary. I would inform the >>>>>>> teaching staff that while I was entirely relaxed about what pronouns >>>>>>> should be used when addressing me, I did insist upon the teachers using >>>>>>> my preferred adjectives. In future I should be addressed directly, and >>>>>>> referred to, as athe stupendously brilliant Rod LiddleA. I would also >>>>>>> demand the right to run in girlsA sports races and use whatever lavatory
    I fancied, depending on which of the several hundred imagined genders I >>>>>>> was identifying as on that particular day. I would exhort all the >>>>>>> children to do likewise u and thus utterly destroy this ludicrous and >>>>>>> damaging ideology by exposing its obvious inconsistencies and
    unrealities, laughing at teacher as they do so.

    Teachers regularly complain that their biggest bugbear is the parents u >>>>>>> and as I mentioned, it is true that these days parents are more inclined
    to take the side of their kids in disputes. Back in the 1970s, by >>>>>>> contrast, if I was punished for wrongdoing in school, my parents would >>>>>>> simply say I deserved it and probably punish me a bit more for good measure.

    But one of the reasons this shift has taken place is that, captured by a
    fatuous ideology to which only a tiny minority of the population >>>>>>> adheres, the teachers have encroached upon territory which more properly
    should lie in the domain of the parents u and they are rightly resented >>>>>>> for it. That, and the fact that seemingly many of them are that very >>>>>>> worst of combinations: dim and totalitarian.

    Rod Liddle

    If it's true, and I think it may be, that only a tiny minority of the >>>>>> population adhere to this ideology, why is it as dominent as it is in schools.

    To thrive and survive in the profession you have to play the game.

    Talent is a ball and chain.

    For generations, think Hippy shit, from top to bottom rank,
    the education system (blob) has grown up and compromised with
    the ideology. Like with many institutions if you point out the
    emperor is naked your career is over.

    The technical term is Ideological Subversion
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z1EA2ohrt5Q

    All true.
    However, there are a lot of teachers in my area, on my street and those I've
    known and know through friends. It's about 50-50 I think, who believe in and
    practice the woke ideology willingly in school and in their parenting with the
    other half playing the game.. :(. But it's gradually turning around :)

    Yes, the teachers aren't the major problem as to an extent they're
    accessible to parents. The major problem is the massive ship of the
    education administration which, even if you could pirate in a skilled
    navigator the careerists would mutiny at every touch of the tiller.

    BTW Our new Education Sec is questioning the value of reading and
    writing even in English. The last one was happy just to cancel Latin.
    There's a bit of Pol Pot in this one.
    https://order-order.com/2026/07/28/education-secretary-says-spelling-and-grammar-tests-are-too-obscure-and-takes-aim-at-exams-and-ofsted/

    When you actually read what they say and think, you know its real and almost >> bloody unbelievable.

    One little stupid:

    Oxford was too academic: oI just didnAt get on at Oxford. I mean it was
    academically very, very hard as well to be honest with you. Not that I wasnAt
    able to do that, but it was, it was quite, it was, those, those eras I think >> itAs got a bit better since then in that era. Academically it was a quite sink
    or swim. There was a lot of self-teaching, self-learning which I wasnAt really
    used to. And I, I found myself just in a, in an environment I wasnAt reallya >> used to.o

    I mean, that's the point for gods sake - to teach self discipline and
    self-reliance just wow!

    A decades-long campaign to elevate people based on arbitrary
    characteristics (race, gender, sexual orientation) instead of merit.

    So that they can acquire merit.
    --
    Noah Sombrero mustachioed villain
    Don't get political with me young man
    or I'll tie you to a railroad track and
    <<<talk>>> to <<<YOOooooo>>>
    Who dares to talk to El Sombrero?
    dares: Ned
    does not dare: Julian shrinks in horror and warns others away

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  • From Dude@punditster@gmail.com to alt.buddha.short.fat.guy on Thu Aug 6 19:20:35 2026
    From Newsgroup: alt.buddha.short.fat.guy

    On 8/6/2026 1:15 PM, Noah Sombrero wrote:
    On Thu, 6 Aug 2026 13:06:22 -0700, Dude <punditster@gmail.com> wrote:

    On 8/6/2026 12:06 PM, Tara wrote:
    On Aug 6, 2026 at 2:44:37?PM EDT, "Julian" <julianlzb87@gmail.com> wrote: >>>
    On 06/08/2026 19:21, Tara wrote:
    On Aug 6, 2026 at 1:30:46?PM EDT, "Julian" <julianlzb87@gmail.com> wrote: >>>>>
    On 06/08/2026 18:12, Tara wrote:
    On Aug 6, 2026 at 12:33:45?PM EDT, "Dude" <punditster@gmail.com> wrote: >>>>>>>
    Posted: by Julian, Jun 23, 2023, 11:45:25?AM:

    The trouble with teachers by Rod Liddle

    A teacher once told me that he couldnrCOt stand Pakistanis rCybecause of the
    smellrCO. I was 13 at the time and it was during a classroom debate about
    immigration: he was very much agin, I was for. It struck me, suddenly, >>>>>>>> that he was very stupid rCo an astonishing realisation, as I was >>>>>>>> accustomed to believing teachers to be full of wisdom, a delusion >>>>>>>> inculcated in me by my parents.

    This all took place in a very large comprehensive school in the >>>>>>>> north-east of England rCo a good school by and large, but almost entirely
    white. Of the 1,800 pupils only one was not: a quiet lad of Chinese >>>>>>>> Malay extraction, I think, who was known to all the pupils and a good >>>>>>>> few of the teachers as rCyFu ManchurCO. In fact, there was another non-white
    face in the crowd, but we didnrCOt know it at the time. It was only 20 >>>>>>>> years later that I realised my friend Jim was half Indian. He kept that
    pretty quiet.

    All of this dates me fairly precisely. Such racist attitudes would today
    be front-page news and there would be government inquiries. Just as >>>>>>>> dated is my parentsrCO deference, and the deference shown by society in
    general, towards teachers. Over the intervening 50 years, society has >>>>>>>> become more diverse and so necessarily more tolerant and accepting rCo >>>>>>>> and, by some sort of strange inversion, teachers have become far more >>>>>>>> stupid. They had their stupidities then, of course, but not on a par >>>>>>>> with the sort of stuff we see today. That is one reason why parents are
    disinclined to show them deference. Another is that deference is pretty
    much dead meat rCo gone the way of similarly despised qualities such as
    discipline, respect, obedience etc.

    Should there be any hope, it lies with the children rCo certainly if the
    Church of England school, Rye College, in East Sussex, is anything to go
    by. Two Year 8 pupils (what we used to call second years) recorded a >>>>>>>> truly cretinous teacher hectoring and bullying them about their views >>>>>>>> regarding gender. The kids had made the eminently reasonable observation
    that a fellow pupil who wished to identify as a cat was seriously >>>>>>>> mentally unwell and should not be indulged in her delusion by the staff.
    The teacher reacted with fury, heightened when the girls insisted that >>>>>>>> there were two genders and that you could not be rCyagenderrCO. She shouted:
    rCyWhat do you mean you canrCOt have it? ItrCOs not a lawrCa Cisgender is not
    necessarily the way to be. You are talking about the fact that cisgender
    is the norm, that you identify with the gender of the sexual organ you >>>>>>>> were born with or yourCOre weird, thatrCOs basically what yourCOre saying,
    which is really despicable.rCO She then said she would be reporting the
    girls to the assistant head and suggested that if they continued to >>>>>>>> think in that manner they should find another school.

    Obviously, the teacher should be sacked rCo and the head too, given the
    schoolrCOs refusal to accept that what this teacher did was not merely >>>>>>>> stupid, but evil. You do not call your pupils rCydespicablerCO and tell them
    to find another school when they are simply telling the truth rCo a very
    easily demonstrable truth.

    So, let us raise a glass to these two canny schoolgirls who recognised >>>>>>>> that their teacher was a halfwit dedicated to lying to her charges and >>>>>>>> had the perspicacity to record her doing so. But maybe there is a >>>>>>>> general rebellion under way, because after a bit of digging, the Daily >>>>>>>> Telegraph, which first reported the story, discovered that in schools up
    and down the country, loads of children are cheerfully identifying as >>>>>>>> animals. They include one child who identifies as a dinosaur and, best >>>>>>>> of all, thererCOs another who identifies as a moon.

    I daresay a small number of these kids are genuinely disturbed, but my >>>>>>>> suspicion is that the majority of them are indulging in that excellent >>>>>>>> British pastime of taking the piss. They are aware that the whole >>>>>>>> self-identification thing is a counter-rational absurdity which has been
    swallowed whole by the idiots who teach them every day and they are >>>>>>>> determined to have a good laugh at the expense of the staff.

    It all made me terribly nostalgic for my schooldays and the fun I might
    have today at, say, Rye College, if I were a second-year pupil. I can >>>>>>>> imagine identifying as having handed in my homework, for a start, >>>>>>>> despite comprehensive evidence to the contrary. I would inform the >>>>>>>> teaching staff that while I was entirely relaxed about what pronouns >>>>>>>> should be used when addressing me, I did insist upon the teachers using
    my preferred adjectives. In future I should be addressed directly, and >>>>>>>> referred to, as rCythe stupendously brilliant Rod LiddlerCO. I would also
    demand the right to run in girlsrCO sports races and use whatever lavatory
    I fancied, depending on which of the several hundred imagined genders I
    was identifying as on that particular day. I would exhort all the >>>>>>>> children to do likewise rCo and thus utterly destroy this ludicrous and
    damaging ideology by exposing its obvious inconsistencies and
    unrealities, laughing at teacher as they do so.

    Teachers regularly complain that their biggest bugbear is the parents rCo
    and as I mentioned, it is true that these days parents are more inclined
    to take the side of their kids in disputes. Back in the 1970s, by >>>>>>>> contrast, if I was punished for wrongdoing in school, my parents would >>>>>>>> simply say I deserved it and probably punish me a bit more for good measure.

    But one of the reasons this shift has taken place is that, captured by a
    fatuous ideology to which only a tiny minority of the population >>>>>>>> adheres, the teachers have encroached upon territory which more properly
    should lie in the domain of the parents rCo and they are rightly resented
    for it. That, and the fact that seemingly many of them are that very >>>>>>>> worst of combinations: dim and totalitarian.

    Rod Liddle

    If it's true, and I think it may be, that only a tiny minority of the >>>>>>> population adhere to this ideology, why is it as dominent as it is in schools.

    To thrive and survive in the profession you have to play the game. >>>>>>
    Talent is a ball and chain.

    For generations, think Hippy shit, from top to bottom rank,
    the education system (blob) has grown up and compromised with
    the ideology. Like with many institutions if you point out the
    emperor is naked your career is over.

    The technical term is Ideological Subversion
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z1EA2ohrt5Q

    All true.
    However, there are a lot of teachers in my area, on my street and those I've
    known and know through friends. It's about 50-50 I think, who believe in and
    practice the woke ideology willingly in school and in their parenting with the
    other half playing the game.. :(. But it's gradually turning around :) >>>>
    Yes, the teachers aren't the major problem as to an extent they're
    accessible to parents. The major problem is the massive ship of the
    education administration which, even if you could pirate in a skilled
    navigator the careerists would mutiny at every touch of the tiller.

    BTW Our new Education Sec is questioning the value of reading and
    writing even in English. The last one was happy just to cancel Latin.
    There's a bit of Pol Pot in this one.
    https://order-order.com/2026/07/28/education-secretary-says-spelling-and-grammar-tests-are-too-obscure-and-takes-aim-at-exams-and-ofsted/

    When you actually read what they say and think, you know its real and almost
    bloody unbelievable.

    One little stupid:

    Oxford was too academic: rCLI just didnrCOt get on at Oxford. I mean it was >>> academically very, very hard as well to be honest with you. Not that I wasnrCOt
    able to do that, but it was, it was quite, it was, those, those eras I think
    itrCOs got a bit better since then in that era. Academically it was a quite sink
    or swim. There was a lot of self-teaching, self-learning which I wasnrCOt really
    used to. And I, I found myself just in a, in an environment I wasnrCOt reallyrCa
    used to.rCY

    I mean, that's the point for gods sake - to teach self discipline and
    self-reliance just wow!

    A decades-long campaign to elevate people based on arbitrary
    characteristics (race, gender, sexual orientation) instead of merit.

    So that they can acquire merit.

    Miss North Carolina dethroned weeks before Miss USA pageant, officials
    cite racism, homophobia and transphobia posts on social media.
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  • From Dude@punditster@gmail.com to alt.buddha.short.fat.guy on Tue Aug 11 13:07:52 2026
    From Newsgroup: alt.buddha.short.fat.guy

    On 8/6/2026 7:20 PM, Dude wrote:
    On 8/6/2026 1:15 PM, Noah Sombrero wrote:
    On Thu, 6 Aug 2026 13:06:22 -0700, Dude <punditster@gmail.com> wrote:

    On 8/6/2026 12:06 PM, Tara wrote:
    On Aug 6, 2026 at 2:44:37?PM EDT, "Julian" <julianlzb87@gmail.com>
    wrote:

    On 06/08/2026 19:21, Tara wrote:
    On Aug 6, 2026 at 1:30:46?PM EDT, "Julian" <julianlzb87@gmail.com> >>>>>> wrote:

    On 06/08/2026 18:12, Tara wrote:
    On Aug 6, 2026 at 12:33:45?PM EDT, "Dude" <punditster@gmail.com> >>>>>>>> wrote:

    Posted: by Julian, Jun 23, 2023, 11:45:25?AM:

    The trouble with teachers by Rod Liddle

    A teacher once told me that he couldnrCOt stand Pakistanis
    rCybecause of the
    smellrCO. I was 13 at the time and it was during a classroom >>>>>>>>> debate about
    immigration: he was very much agin, I was for. It struck me, >>>>>>>>> suddenly,
    that he was very stupid rCo an astonishing realisation, as I was >>>>>>>>> accustomed to believing teachers to be full of wisdom, a delusion >>>>>>>>> inculcated in me by my parents.

    This all took place in a very large comprehensive school in the >>>>>>>>> north-east of England rCo a good school by and large, but almost >>>>>>>>> entirely
    white. Of the 1,800 pupils only one was not: a quiet lad of >>>>>>>>> Chinese
    Malay extraction, I think, who was known to all the pupils and >>>>>>>>> a good
    few of the teachers as rCyFu ManchurCO. In fact, there was another >>>>>>>>> non-white
    face in the crowd, but we didnrCOt know it at the time. It was >>>>>>>>> only 20
    years later that I realised my friend Jim was half Indian. He >>>>>>>>> kept that
    pretty quiet.

    All of this dates me fairly precisely. Such racist attitudes >>>>>>>>> would today
    be front-page news and there would be government inquiries. >>>>>>>>> Just as
    dated is my parentsrCO deference, and the deference shown by >>>>>>>>> society in
    general, towards teachers. Over the intervening 50 years,
    society has
    become more diverse and so necessarily more tolerant and
    accepting rCo
    and, by some sort of strange inversion, teachers have become >>>>>>>>> far more
    stupid. They had their stupidities then, of course, but not on >>>>>>>>> a par
    with the sort of stuff we see today. That is one reason why >>>>>>>>> parents are
    disinclined to show them deference. Another is that deference >>>>>>>>> is pretty
    much dead meat rCo gone the way of similarly despised qualities >>>>>>>>> such as
    discipline, respect, obedience etc.

    Should there be any hope, it lies with the children rCo certainly >>>>>>>>> if the
    Church of England school, Rye College, in East Sussex, is
    anything to go
    by. Two Year 8 pupils (what we used to call second years)
    recorded a
    truly cretinous teacher hectoring and bullying them about their >>>>>>>>> views
    regarding gender. The kids had made the eminently reasonable >>>>>>>>> observation
    that a fellow pupil who wished to identify as a cat was seriously >>>>>>>>> mentally unwell and should not be indulged in her delusion by >>>>>>>>> the staff.
    The teacher reacted with fury, heightened when the girls
    insisted that
    there were two genders and that you could not be rCyagenderrCO. She >>>>>>>>> shouted:
    rCyWhat do you mean you canrCOt have it? ItrCOs not a lawrCa Cisgender
    is not
    necessarily the way to be. You are talking about the fact that >>>>>>>>> cisgender
    is the norm, that you identify with the gender of the sexual >>>>>>>>> organ you
    were born with or yourCOre weird, thatrCOs basically what yourCOre >>>>>>>>> saying,
    which is really despicable.rCO She then said she would be
    reporting the
    girls to the assistant head and suggested that if they
    continued to
    think in that manner they should find another school.

    Obviously, the teacher should be sacked rCo and the head too, >>>>>>>>> given the
    schoolrCOs refusal to accept that what this teacher did was not >>>>>>>>> merely
    stupid, but evil. You do not call your pupils rCydespicablerCO and >>>>>>>>> tell them
    to find another school when they are simply telling the truth rCo >>>>>>>>> a very
    easily demonstrable truth.

    So, let us raise a glass to these two canny schoolgirls who >>>>>>>>> recognised
    that their teacher was a halfwit dedicated to lying to her
    charges and
    had the perspicacity to record her doing so. But maybe there is a >>>>>>>>> general rebellion under way, because after a bit of digging, >>>>>>>>> the Daily
    Telegraph, which first reported the story, discovered that in >>>>>>>>> schools up
    and down the country, loads of children are cheerfully
    identifying as
    animals. They include one child who identifies as a dinosaur >>>>>>>>> and, best
    of all, thererCOs another who identifies as a moon.

    I daresay a small number of these kids are genuinely disturbed, >>>>>>>>> but my
    suspicion is that the majority of them are indulging in that >>>>>>>>> excellent
    British pastime of taking the piss. They are aware that the whole >>>>>>>>> self-identification thing is a counter-rational absurdity which >>>>>>>>> has been
    swallowed whole by the idiots who teach them every day and they >>>>>>>>> are
    determined to have a good laugh at the expense of the staff. >>>>>>>>>
    It all made me terribly nostalgic for my schooldays and the fun >>>>>>>>> I might
    have today at, say, Rye College, if I were a second-year pupil. >>>>>>>>> I can
    imagine identifying as having handed in my homework, for a start, >>>>>>>>> despite comprehensive evidence to the contrary. I would inform the >>>>>>>>> teaching staff that while I was entirely relaxed about what >>>>>>>>> pronouns
    should be used when addressing me, I did insist upon the
    teachers using
    my preferred adjectives. In future I should be addressed
    directly, and
    referred to, as rCythe stupendously brilliant Rod LiddlerCO. I >>>>>>>>> would also
    demand the right to run in girlsrCO sports races and use whatever >>>>>>>>> lavatory
    I fancied, depending on which of the several hundred imagined >>>>>>>>> genders I
    was identifying as on that particular day. I would exhort all the >>>>>>>>> children to do likewise rCo and thus utterly destroy this
    ludicrous and
    damaging ideology by exposing its obvious inconsistencies and >>>>>>>>> unrealities, laughing at teacher as they do so.

    Teachers regularly complain that their biggest bugbear is the >>>>>>>>> parents rCo
    and as I mentioned, it is true that these days parents are more >>>>>>>>> inclined
    to take the side of their kids in disputes. Back in the 1970s, by >>>>>>>>> contrast, if I was punished for wrongdoing in school, my
    parents would
    simply say I deserved it and probably punish me a bit more for >>>>>>>>> good measure.

    But one of the reasons this shift has taken place is that,
    captured by a
    fatuous ideology to which only a tiny minority of the population >>>>>>>>> adheres, the teachers have encroached upon territory which more >>>>>>>>> properly
    should lie in the domain of the parents rCo and they are rightly >>>>>>>>> resented
    for it. That, and the fact that seemingly many of them are that >>>>>>>>> very
    worst of combinations: dim and totalitarian.

    Rod Liddle

    If it's true, and I think it may be, that only a tiny minority >>>>>>>> of the
    population adhere to this ideology, why is it as dominent as it >>>>>>>> is in schools.

    To thrive and survive in the profession you have to play the game. >>>>>>>
    Talent is a ball and chain.

    For generations, think Hippy shit, from top to bottom rank,
    the education system (blob) has grown up and compromised with
    the ideology. Like with many institutions if you point out the
    emperor is naked your career is over.

    The technical term is Ideological Subversion
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z1EA2ohrt5Q

    All true.
    However, there are a lot of teachers in my area, on my street and >>>>>> those I've
    known and know through friends. It's about 50-50 I think, who
    believe in and
    practice the woke ideology willingly in school and in their
    parenting with the
    other half playing the game.. :(. But it's gradually turning
    around :)

    Yes, the teachers aren't the major problem as to an extent they're
    accessible to parents. The major problem is the massive ship of the
    education administration which, even if you could pirate in a skilled >>>>> navigator the careerists would mutiny at every touch of the tiller.

    BTW Our new Education Sec is questioning the value of reading and
    writing even in English. The last one was happy just to cancel Latin. >>>>> There's a bit of Pol Pot in this one.
    https://order-order.com/2026/07/28/education-secretary-says-
    spelling-and-grammar-tests-are-too-obscure-and-takes-aim-at-exams-
    and-ofsted/

    When you actually read what they say and think, you know its real
    and almost
    bloody unbelievable.

    One little stupid:

    Oxford was too academic: rCLI just didnrCOt get on at Oxford. I mean it was
    academically very, very hard as well to be honest with you. Not that
    I wasnrCOt
    able to do that, but it was, it was quite, it was, those, those eras
    I think
    itrCOs got a bit better since then in that era. Academically it was a >>>> quite sink
    or swim. There was a lot of self-teaching, self-learning which I
    wasnrCOt really
    used to. And I, I found myself just in a, in an environment I wasnrCOt >>>> reallyrCa
    used to.rCY

    I mean, that's the point for gods sake - to teach self discipline and
    self-reliance-a just wow!

    A decades-long campaign to elevate people based on arbitrary
    characteristics (race, gender, sexual orientation) instead of merit.

    So that they can acquire merit.

    Miss North Carolina dethroned weeks before Miss USA pageant, officials
    cite racism, homophobia and transphobia posts on social media.

    Former Miss North Carolina USA Brittany Boltinhouse says losing her
    crown may have been a rCLblessing in disguiserCYrCoand believes her conservative Christian convictions helped put her on the wrong side of
    pageant officials.

    The Miss USA Organization removed Boltinhouse on August 5, only weeks
    after her June 28 victory and less than a month before the national Miss
    USA competition.

    In a Friday interview with the Carolina Journal, Boltinhouse said:

    rCLI believe and think I was stripped from my title because of my
    political stance and my belief system as a conservative Christian woman.rCY
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