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On 8/3/2026 1:24 PM, dart200 wrote:
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On 8/2/26 9:48 AM, Wilson wrote:
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On 8/1/26 10:17 AM, Julian wrote:
Ursula von der Leyen doesnrCOt seem to care about the tide of >>>>>>>> people rushing the Spanish border. Voters in Britain will
If any of us were in doubt about the scale of the problem facing >>>>>>>> our borders, that ended in half an hour on Thursday. Thousands >>>>>>>> of topless Moroccan men were filmed scrambling over rocks,
pushing over walls and setting things on fire as they rushed
into Ceuta, the Spanish exclave in north Africa.
To watch the footage was, simply, to be boggled. How many people >>>>>>>> were in that frame? Why were they doing this? Who even were they? >>>>>>>>
And what about the people of Ceuta, a city with a population
smaller than Eastbourne on the coast near Tangier, long governed >>>>>>>> by Spain? What would we do if Eastbourne was overrun by 60,000 >>>>>>>> foreign berserkers?
Some would argue it already has been.
IrCOve written a lot about Nigel Farage, the movement of people >>>>>>>> and the threat of small boats. And, to be honest, IrCOve always >>>>>>>> been a bit embarrassed doing it. You donrCOt have to have watched >>>>>>>> The Odyssey to know that human decency says you must at least >>>>>>>> try to welcome refugees and migrants, especially if yourCOre one >>>>>>>> of the richest countries in the world and theyrCOre victims of >>>>>>>> wars yourCOve started or meddled in rCo which is, of course, in the >>>>>>>> end, most of the wars. This has always been EuroperCOs position. >>>>>>>>
Yet, looking at the surging crowds, I thought: hasnrCOt it gone a >>>>>>>> bit far now? Europe wants us to do what?
They want us to just deal with thousands more illegals, on top >>>>>>>> of the thousands who have already come here on boats this year rCo >>>>>>>> 752 on Wednesday alone rCo because they simply canrCOt be bothered >>>>>>>> to stop them or, worse, expect us to actually welcome them in, >>>>>>>> as they do? To give them free houses, taxis, mobile phones,
allow scores of dependants to also come across rCo because: human >>>>>>>> rights rCo when there are barely enough houses for the people who >>>>>>>> are already here, when taxes are this high, when the NHS is
messy, dysfunctional and killing people?
Are we just expected to take it?
For Ursula von der Leyen, the useless, robo-haired functionary >>>>>>>> at the top of the European Commission, the answer is yes. She >>>>>>>> couldnrCOt have cared less about the Ceuta stampede. At most, for >>>>>>>> her, thousands of gleeful men romping up metal railings, raiding >>>>>>>> shops and then sleeping, half-naked, out in the open, were a
mere HR/ health and safety issue.
rCLDangerous crossingsrCY must not happen, she tweeted on Friday. rCLI
tasked two commissioners to support to control the situation.rCY >>>>>>>>
I looked up the commissioners. One was a wet-looking Austrian >>>>>>>> ninth- tier politician, a holder of the Grand Cross of
Liechtenstein. The other was a former mayor of Dubrovnik and
recipient of the 2006 World Mayor Award. Are they real people? >>>>>>>> ItrCOs like sending Gareth and Dawn from The Office.
Europe has never been serious about stopping migration.
Philosophically, itrCOs not their thing. Effective returns of >>>>>>>> people who flood into Greece, Spain, Italy, France and so on
bump along at only 28 per cent. SpainrCOs prime minister, Pedro >>>>>>>> S|inchez, whose recent policies made the rush on Ceuta possible, >>>>>>>> could not, when he addressed the press on Friday, even bring
himself to use the word rCLborderrCY. The police would put a
rCLphysical containment barrierrCY in the sea, he said, to stop >>>>>>>> migrants swimming the three miles from Morocco to Spain.
How about telling them they simply wonrCOt be welcome? How about >>>>>>>> not promising an amnesty, as he did this year, prompting the
surge? How about seeing a huge body of random people just over >>>>>>>> the border and not automatically thinking, what can I do to make >>>>>>>> it even easier for these people to enter my territory? What can >>>>>>>> I give them? Shall I pass them a lifejacket, a cup of tea, a
credit card, an SUV and a four-bedroom house in Kilburn?
These people arenrCOt refugees, by the way, or asylum seekers. >>>>>>>> TheyrCOre economic migrants, chancing it. As one of them put it, >>>>>>>> when the borderrCOs down theyrCOll try anything, because: rCLSalaries >>>>>>>> are very low in Morocco. ItrCOs dead, Morocco is dead.rCY
For them, CeutarCOs a jaunty day trip.
Any serious attempt to deal with the many millions who flood in >>>>>>>> is resisted with psychotic anger in the European parliament. Its >>>>>>>> recent plan to create rCLreturn hubsrCY was met with scorn. One >>>>>>>> commissioner, two weeks ago, said-a that-a rCLextraterritorial >>>>>>>> centresrCY had bad human rights records. AustraliarCOs plans led to >>>>>>>> rCLyears of arbitrary detention in inhuman conditionsrCY. Similar >>>>>>>> plans by Israel (itrCOs always Israel) left asylum seekers in >>>>>>>> rCLlegal limborCY.
Fear of legal limbo rCo is that a reason to desecrate an entire >>>>>>>> continent? These politicians are consumed by madness and guilt. >>>>>>>> They are embarrassed by EuroperCOs wealth, its global standing and >>>>>>>> its relative ease of life. They feel it is their mission to tear >>>>>>>> this down by waving in thousands of people who shouldnrCOt be >>>>>>>> here. And those people know this, which is why thousands still >>>>>>>> tip up in Italy each month, to Giorgia MelonirCOs horror. S|inchez >>>>>>>> himself has said that Spain will welcome 500,000-a migrants. This >>>>>>>> will tear Europe apart.
Some of these arrivals will head out of Spain and go north,
attracted by our better healthcare, education system and free >>>>>>>> houses.
We pay the French -u662 million to stop them coming here from >>>>>>>> Calais, but, as Chris Philp, the shadow home secretary, found >>>>>>>> out on Tuesday, like every EU official with a lifejacket they >>>>>>>> donrCOt do the job.
Philp was mocked for running up and down the French coast,
asking the gendarmerie why they were doing rCLabsolutely nothingrCY >>>>>>>> to stop people- smugglers loading up hundreds on boats in front >>>>>>>> of them. rCLOur order is to let them go like that,rCY shrugged one. >>>>>>>> rCLWe just have to say to them, donrCOt do that, itrCOs dangerous.rCY >>>>>>>>
As I said: mere health and safety.
The strange thing about migration is that it should be the
easiest thing in the world to manage. There is nothing more
simple than securing the borders of onerCOs country. Yet many >>>>>>>> politicians seem unable to speak on this matter. Andy Burnham >>>>>>>> and Ed Miliband, the foreign secretary rCo all tongue-tied.
On other subjects, the prime minister wonrCOt shut up: poetry, >>>>>>>> tea, pubs, education, bus fares, electricity, who herCOs going >>>>>>>> tax, why he felt Cambridge let him down. On Europe, he couldnrCOt >>>>>>>> be clearer: he wants an rCLeven closerrCY relationship. On
immigration, though, nothing.
At some point, perhaps when he sees his TikToks falling off a >>>>>>>> cliff as eyeballs race to the astonishing pictures of Moroccans >>>>>>>> marching in relentless columns across Spanish soil, he may
realise that however much the EU tries to obfuscate the reality >>>>>>>> of what is happening, however much they try to tidy it away
(rCL50,000 have gone back nowrCY), however much they pretend that >>>>>>>> what happened on Thursday wasnrCOt their Tiananmen Square rCo an >>>>>>>> event we can never unsee rCo there are only two subjects that will >>>>>>>> interest people at the next election. Money, and this.
The longer Burnham prevaricates and utters soundbites, the
longer Labour tries to pretend the matter is in hand when it
isnrCOt, the more people will come across, the more our seaside >>>>>>>> towns will be destroyed, the more stories will leak out about >>>>>>>> migrants bringing over 18 members of their families and/or
raping people. Is he ready for it?
Camilla Long
capitalists and crying about free association: name a more ironic >>>>>>> duo
Do the citizens of Ceuta get a say in who they associate with?
this is like idiot reddit admins claiming censorship is actually
free speech. god u sheeple are truly that fucking retarded
everywhere, eh???
and no wilson: free association means that the "citizens of cueta"
do not get a say in barring each other from freely associating.
otherwise that's not free association, it's association limited by
wherever the fuck u happened to be born.
idk why u insist on endless mental gymnastics, but it's clear u
don't actually support free association. u support coercively
barring association based on what u feel is in your best interest.
Get serious! Now you're claiming to be be a social scientist?
You probably never even heard of a country named Ceuta, Spain before
yesterday.
Let's face it. Nick is not smarter than a 5th grader.
ur a complete fucking idiot dud
You snipped out this, you rascal!
oh did i now???
When you do that you open yourself to charges of unfair text
manipulation in a debate. You must be new to Usenet and social media.
This is supposed to be a fair debate. Let's not get personal.
In fact, modern Andalusians are not Arab; they are a European regional population of Spain. While the historical region of Al-Andalus was under Muslim rule from 711 to 1492 and shaped by Arab and Berber leadership,
the local population remained predominantly native Iberian.
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