• America is still an English country

    From Julian@julianlzb87@gmail.com to alt.buddha.short.fat.guy on Wed Jul 1 08:56:46 2026
    From Newsgroup: alt.buddha.short.fat.guy

    Americans have been enjoined, as we approach our countryrCOs 250th anniversary, to be a bit more grateful. Good advice. It is not just the freedom of speech and the purple mountainsrCO majesties we should be
    taking stock of. It is also our knack, in recent decades, for
    miseducating ourselves, failing to read the signs of the times, making
    wrong choices rCo and then profiting from the fallout.

    In the global financial crisis that ran for a decade after 2008,
    blunders in American financial engineering, from complex derivatives to mortgage-backed securities, bankrupted debtor countries and cost several others their sovereignty, most notoriously Greece. The worldrCOs investors responded with the so-called rCyflight to quality,rCO pouring their national savings into American financial products and enriching the very bastards
    who broke the world economy. After 2019, the Covid epidemic arose in
    China from another foolish American idea, rCygain-of-functionrCO research, which set scientists the task of making dangerous viruses more
    dangerous, the better to design vaccines for them. The pandemic killed millions and idled billions, but it will wind up earning trillions for
    the American biotech industry.

    So, although it is a cause for worry, it is not necessarily a cause for despair that we are approaching our quarter-millennium mark under the
    shadow of the craziest foreign-policy error in American history. When a
    head of state, without ever laying out a coherent war aim, dresses
    himself up as the Prince of Peace while threatening to exterminate an
    entire civilisationrCa well, that does go beyond the predictable forms of hubris to which all empires are liable.

    The Iran war will exact a high price for the United States if thererCOs
    any justice in international relations. Luckily for us, that remains a
    big rCyifrCO. Misreading situations has become a habit. As Haven Hamilton,
    the preposterously bespangled country-and-western crooner played by
    Henry Gibson in Robert AltmanrCOs Nashville, sang in 1976, rCyWe must be
    doing something right to last 200 yearsrCO rCo but he didnrCOt know what that something was, and we have no clearer idea half a century later. We tend
    to think of the United States as the greatest common denominator of all
    the worldrCOs virtues, particularly those involving freedom. rCyWe think theyrCOre American values,rCO said Hillary Clinton in 2014 when she was promoting a book about her time as secretary of state, rCybut in my view, theyrCOre universal values and we need to stand up for them.rCO Of course,
    if they really were universal values we wouldnrCOt need to stand up for them.

    Lyndon B. Johnson had similar thoughts. rCyThe land flourished because it
    was fed from so many sources,rCO he said in the mid-1960s. But thatrCOs not true, either. Culturally speaking, the US is a varied place rCo at least during its periodic bursts of uncontrolled immigration. But as a constitutional matter it is not diverse at all. What makes the US great
    is a very specific set of institutions, intuitions and cultural habits
    that it inherited from one country: England.

    Constitutionally, America is still an English place: Lockean in peace, Hobbesian in war. That is why it has managed to last for 250 years while
    both infuriating other western nations and inciting their envy. The
    English are an outlier among European peoples, especially in their idea
    of liberty, which was until quite recently as absolutist as ours and
    difficult for other quite advanced civilisations to understand. (This
    was before Keir Starmer began sending armed police to arrest pensioners
    for their Facebook posts.)

    No continental nation has ever been so strongly allergic to political censorship as the British were a century after their own civil war, when
    we were writing our First Amendment. Nor was there ever a nation-state
    with the reverence for unfettered trade that the English had rCo
    especially with the first stirrings of the Industrial Revolution, which
    came as the American Revolution was beginning. (The other great thing
    that happened in 1776, coincidentally or not, was the publication of the Scotsman Adam SmithrCOs The Wealth of Nations.) In the 18th century, those most inclined to agitate for commercial adventurism were the very Whigs
    who made up the revolutionary elites of the 13 colonies. When the
    revolution succeeded, their ideals were radicalised by the fact that the conservative opposition to them had been chucked out. So American ways
    are not wispy universalisms. They are cultural achievements, if we can
    use that word for the fervently held prejudices of the most acquisitive subgroup of the most irrational people in Europe.

    As prejudices go, these are ancient ones. The Englishmen of the 13
    colonies took up universal male suffrage long before anyone in the old
    country thought to. We codified the duties of our chief executive before
    the French declared an end to kings in 1789. As a result, America, for
    all its superficial modernity, is more tightly bound than other western countries to more traditional forms of social organisation. It was set
    up when peoplerCOs ideas of right and wrong owed as much to the
    Renaissance as to the Enlightenment. A mix of monarchical sentiment and classical republican ideals was coursing through the hearts of the early columnists, as the Harvard historian Eric Nelson showed in his 2014 book
    The Royalist Revolution.

    NelsonrCOs Harvard colleague, the political theorist Harvey Mansfield,
    called American liberal democracy a rCymixed regimerCO, balancing the Aristotelian categories of democracy, oligarchy and monarchy. The
    historians Rowland Berthoff and John M. Murrin argued 50 years ago that
    the FoundersrCO understanding of classical republican virtues was indeed
    in vogue in the 18th century, but in the early part of the century. So
    by the 1780s, these ideas were already a bit fogey-ish, and certain
    patriots might have professed them as a defence against accelerating
    change. Today, the persistence of American hegemony even in the face of
    the countryrCOs economic and cultural decline mystifies many people. But perhaps AmericarCOs antique, pre-democratic elements suit it to a period
    in which we seem to be witnessing the close of the 250-year-long
    Enlightenment parenthesis.

    Europeans, including Brits, have older cultures than ours, but newer
    political cultures. In recent years they have been slower to take up the American progressive brainstorms of the post-Cold War era rCo from
    wokeness to gender ideology rCo but have clung to them even as those
    novelties have grown slightly ridiculous in the US. Why is this? We
    should recall what we were saying about the radicalising effect of
    expelling an opposition. America, after the flight of the Tories in the
    1770s and 1780s, became a narrower-minded but more purposeful, more streamlined Britain.

    History offers plenty of other examples. Consider the sudden
    conservatism of Francisco FrancorCOs Spain rCo which had been for more than
    a century a hotbed of anti-clericalism rCo after its Civil War ended in
    1939. Or consider the way Russia has evolved in a more nationalist
    direction since the Ukraine war, with the self-exile of its cosmopolitan elites to Berlin, Istanbul and elsewhere. (It was one of Vladimir
    PutinrCOs more savvy acts of statesmanship that, rather than insisting his adversaries share the sacrifice of the war, he let them flee it, and
    with it their share in the running of the state.)

    In the wake of the second world war, the countries of western Europe
    were refounded in such a way as to exclude those elements incompatible
    with international rules laid down by the US. These rules were devised
    by the most gifted State Department diplomats of the generation of
    George F. Kennan and Dean Acheson, and elaborated by the most gifted
    nonprofit technocrats of the generation of George Soros. The result has
    been the remaking of the civilised world as liberal AmericarCOs
    caricature. Does Germany, for instance, owe more to Frederick the Great
    and Bismarck than it does to JFK and LBJ? No one who witnessed the
    adulation of Barack Obama on the streets of Berlin in 2008 will consider
    the answer obvious.

    Elements of populist America, and not just Donald Trump, have grown
    uneasy with the progressive drift of Europe, its evolution into a
    borderless and even nationless space. American conservativesrCO more
    general preoccupation about Europe is of longer standing. If Christopher
    Lasch is right that liberalism is parasitical on conservatism, relying
    on it for stability, predictability and common sense, then the American
    Empire depends similarly on cues from the more traditional cultures out
    of which it was built. Victory in the Cold War robbed the US of this
    resource, unleashing the character-sapping, empire-eroding power of consumerism, much as the Spanish discovery of silver in Potos|! unleashed
    the character-sapping, empire-eroding power of inflation. Too bad.
    Preserving republics has been understood through most of history to mean preserving specific peoples and their specific virtues.

    The US has, over the past 250 years, followed much the same course as
    Britain, only slightly later. We, like the British, built an empire in
    the 19th century rCo we just tend not to notice it because it turned into
    our country. From the present perspective, the quarter-millennium of US history breaks down into three periods of roughly 80 years apiece,
    separated by two ruptures. There is the constitutional era that was
    ended by the Civil War rCo LincolnrCOs refounding of the country. There was
    an industrial era, ruled over by railroad men and Wall Street
    financiers, that reached its culmination with the second world war rCo Franklin RooseveltrCOs refounding. This brought an imperial era, ruled
    over by technocrats and techies. As in Britain a century ago, a debate
    seems set to begin on whether this empire, too, has run its course.


    Christopher Caldwell
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  • From Noah Sombrero@fedora@fea.st to alt.buddha.short.fat.guy on Wed Jul 1 12:09:25 2026
    From Newsgroup: alt.buddha.short.fat.guy

    On Wed, 1 Jul 2026 08:56:46 +0100, Julian <julianlzb87@gmail.com>
    wrote:

    Americans have been enjoined, as we approach our countryAs 250th >anniversary, to be a bit more grateful. Good advice. It is not just the >freedom of speech and the purple mountainsA majesties we should be
    taking stock of. It is also our knack, in recent decades, for
    miseducating ourselves, failing to read the signs of the times, making
    wrong choices u and then profiting from the fallout.

    In the global financial crisis that ran for a decade after 2008,
    blunders in American financial engineering, from complex derivatives to >mortgage-backed securities, bankrupted debtor countries and cost several >others their sovereignty, most notoriously Greece. The worldAs investors >responded with the so-called aflight to quality,A pouring their national >savings into American financial products and enriching the very bastards
    who broke the world economy. After 2019, the Covid epidemic arose in
    China from another foolish American idea, again-of-functionA research,
    which set scientists the task of making dangerous viruses more
    dangerous, the better to design vaccines for them. The pandemic killed >millions and idled billions, but it will wind up earning trillions for
    the American biotech industry.

    So, although it is a cause for worry, it is not necessarily a cause for >despair that we are approaching our quarter-millennium mark under the
    shadow of the craziest foreign-policy error in American history. When a
    head of state, without ever laying out a coherent war aim, dresses
    himself up as the Prince of Peace while threatening to exterminate an
    entire civilisationa well, that does go beyond the predictable forms of >hubris to which all empires are liable.

    The Iran war will exact a high price for the United States if thereAs
    any justice in international relations. Luckily for us, that remains a
    big aifA. Misreading situations has become a habit. As Haven Hamilton,
    the preposterously bespangled country-and-western crooner played by
    Henry Gibson in Robert AltmanAs Nashville, sang in 1976, aWe must be
    doing something right to last 200 yearsA u but he didnAt know what that >something was, and we have no clearer idea half a century later. We tend
    to think of the United States as the greatest common denominator of all
    the worldAs virtues, particularly those involving freedom. aWe think
    theyAre American values,A said Hillary Clinton in 2014 when she was >promoting a book about her time as secretary of state, abut in my view, >theyAre universal values and we need to stand up for them.A Of course,
    if they really were universal values we wouldnAt need to stand up for them.

    Lyndon B. Johnson had similar thoughts. aThe land flourished because it
    was fed from so many sources,A he said in the mid-1960s. But thatAs not >true, either. Culturally speaking, the US is a varied place u at least >during its periodic bursts of uncontrolled immigration. But as a >constitutional matter it is not diverse at all. What makes the US great
    is a very specific set of institutions, intuitions and cultural habits
    that it inherited from one country: England.

    Constitutionally, America is still an English place: Lockean in peace, >Hobbesian in war. That is why it has managed to last for 250 years while >both infuriating other western nations and inciting their envy. The
    English are an outlier among European peoples, especially in their idea
    of liberty, which was until quite recently as absolutist as ours and >difficult for other quite advanced civilisations to understand. (This
    was before Keir Starmer began sending armed police to arrest pensioners
    for their Facebook posts.)

    No continental nation has ever been so strongly allergic to political >censorship as the British were a century after their own civil war, when
    we were writing our First Amendment. Nor was there ever a nation-state
    with the reverence for unfettered trade that the English had u
    especially with the first stirrings of the Industrial Revolution, which
    came as the American Revolution was beginning. (The other great thing
    that happened in 1776, coincidentally or not, was the publication of the >Scotsman Adam SmithAs The Wealth of Nations.) In the 18th century, those >most inclined to agitate for commercial adventurism were the very Whigs
    who made up the revolutionary elites of the 13 colonies. When the
    revolution succeeded, their ideals were radicalised by the fact that the >conservative opposition to them had been chucked out. So American ways
    are not wispy universalisms. They are cultural achievements, if we can
    use that word for the fervently held prejudices of the most acquisitive >subgroup of the most irrational people in Europe.

    As prejudices go, these are ancient ones. The Englishmen of the 13
    colonies took up universal male suffrage long before anyone in the old >country thought to. We codified the duties of our chief executive before
    the French declared an end to kings in 1789. As a result, America, for
    all its superficial modernity, is more tightly bound than other western >countries to more traditional forms of social organisation. It was set
    up when peopleAs ideas of right and wrong owed as much to the
    Renaissance as to the Enlightenment. A mix of monarchical sentiment and >classical republican ideals was coursing through the hearts of the early >columnists, as the Harvard historian Eric Nelson showed in his 2014 book
    The Royalist Revolution.

    NelsonAs Harvard colleague, the political theorist Harvey Mansfield,
    called American liberal democracy a amixed regimeA, balancing the >Aristotelian categories of democracy, oligarchy and monarchy. The
    historians Rowland Berthoff and John M. Murrin argued 50 years ago that
    the FoundersA understanding of classical republican virtues was indeed
    in vogue in the 18th century, but in the early part of the century. So
    by the 1780s, these ideas were already a bit fogey-ish, and certain
    patriots might have professed them as a defence against accelerating
    change. Today, the persistence of American hegemony even in the face of
    the countryAs economic and cultural decline mystifies many people. But >perhaps AmericaAs antique, pre-democratic elements suit it to a period
    in which we seem to be witnessing the close of the 250-year-long >Enlightenment parenthesis.

    Europeans, including Brits, have older cultures than ours, but newer >political cultures. In recent years they have been slower to take up the >American progressive brainstorms of the post-Cold War era u from
    wokeness to gender ideology u but have clung to them even as those
    novelties have grown slightly ridiculous in the US. Why is this? We
    should recall what we were saying about the radicalising effect of
    expelling an opposition. America, after the flight of the Tories in the >1770s and 1780s, became a narrower-minded but more purposeful, more >streamlined Britain.

    History offers plenty of other examples. Consider the sudden
    conservatism of Francisco FrancoAs Spain u which had been for more than
    a century a hotbed of anti-clericalism u after its Civil War ended in
    1939. Or consider the way Russia has evolved in a more nationalist
    direction since the Ukraine war, with the self-exile of its cosmopolitan >elites to Berlin, Istanbul and elsewhere. (It was one of Vladimir
    PutinAs more savvy acts of statesmanship that, rather than insisting his >adversaries share the sacrifice of the war, he let them flee it, and
    with it their share in the running of the state.)

    In the wake of the second world war, the countries of western Europe
    were refounded in such a way as to exclude those elements incompatible
    with international rules laid down by the US. These rules were devised
    by the most gifted State Department diplomats of the generation of
    George F. Kennan and Dean Acheson, and elaborated by the most gifted >nonprofit technocrats of the generation of George Soros. The result has
    been the remaking of the civilised world as liberal AmericaAs
    caricature. Does Germany, for instance, owe more to Frederick the Great
    and Bismarck than it does to JFK and LBJ? No one who witnessed the
    adulation of Barack Obama on the streets of Berlin in 2008 will consider
    the answer obvious.

    Elements of populist America, and not just Donald Trump, have grown
    uneasy with the progressive drift of Europe, its evolution into a
    borderless and even nationless space. American conservativesA more
    general preoccupation about Europe is of longer standing. If Christopher >Lasch is right that liberalism is parasitical on conservatism, relying
    on it for stability, predictability and common sense, then the American >Empire depends similarly on cues from the more traditional cultures out
    of which it was built. Victory in the Cold War robbed the US of this >resource, unleashing the character-sapping, empire-eroding power of >consumerism, much as the Spanish discovery of silver in Potos0 unleashed
    the character-sapping, empire-eroding power of inflation. Too bad. >Preserving republics has been understood through most of history to mean >preserving specific peoples and their specific virtues.

    The US has, over the past 250 years, followed much the same course as >Britain, only slightly later. We, like the British, built an empire in
    the 19th century u we just tend not to notice it because it turned into
    our country. From the present perspective, the quarter-millennium of US >history breaks down into three periods of roughly 80 years apiece,
    separated by two ruptures. There is the constitutional era that was
    ended by the Civil War u LincolnAs refounding of the country. There was
    an industrial era, ruled over by railroad men and Wall Street
    financiers, that reached its culmination with the second world war u >Franklin RooseveltAs refounding. This brought an imperial era, ruled
    over by technocrats and techies. As in Britain a century ago, a debate
    seems set to begin on whether this empire, too, has run its course.


    Christopher Caldwell

    Thoughty. Thanks julian. More of that and less political trashing
    would be nice. Make short fat guy great again.
    --
    Noah Sombrero mustachioed villain
    Don't get political with me young man
    or I'll tie you to a railroad track and
    <<<talk>>> to <<<YOOooooo>>>
    Who dares to talk to El Sombrero?
    dares: Ned
    does not dare: Julian shrinks in horror and warns others away

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  • From Dude@punditster@gmail.com to alt.buddha.short.fat.guy on Wed Jul 1 10:44:43 2026
    From Newsgroup: alt.buddha.short.fat.guy

    On 7/1/2026 9:09 AM, Noah Sombrero wrote:
    On Wed, 1 Jul 2026 08:56:46 +0100, Julian <julianlzb87@gmail.com>
    wrote:

    Americans have been enjoined, as we approach our countryrCOs 250th
    anniversary, to be a bit more grateful. Good advice. It is not just the
    freedom of speech and the purple mountainsrCO majesties we should be
    taking stock of. It is also our knack, in recent decades, for
    miseducating ourselves, failing to read the signs of the times, making
    wrong choices rCo and then profiting from the fallout.

    In the global financial crisis that ran for a decade after 2008,
    blunders in American financial engineering, from complex derivatives to
    mortgage-backed securities, bankrupted debtor countries and cost several
    others their sovereignty, most notoriously Greece. The worldrCOs investors >> responded with the so-called rCyflight to quality,rCO pouring their national >> savings into American financial products and enriching the very bastards
    who broke the world economy. After 2019, the Covid epidemic arose in
    China from another foolish American idea, rCygain-of-functionrCO research, >> which set scientists the task of making dangerous viruses more
    dangerous, the better to design vaccines for them. The pandemic killed
    millions and idled billions, but it will wind up earning trillions for
    the American biotech industry.

    So, although it is a cause for worry, it is not necessarily a cause for
    despair that we are approaching our quarter-millennium mark under the
    shadow of the craziest foreign-policy error in American history. When a
    head of state, without ever laying out a coherent war aim, dresses
    himself up as the Prince of Peace while threatening to exterminate an
    entire civilisationrCa well, that does go beyond the predictable forms of
    hubris to which all empires are liable.

    The Iran war will exact a high price for the United States if thererCOs
    any justice in international relations. Luckily for us, that remains a
    big rCyifrCO. Misreading situations has become a habit. As Haven Hamilton, >> the preposterously bespangled country-and-western crooner played by
    Henry Gibson in Robert AltmanrCOs Nashville, sang in 1976, rCyWe must be
    doing something right to last 200 yearsrCO rCo but he didnrCOt know what that
    something was, and we have no clearer idea half a century later. We tend
    to think of the United States as the greatest common denominator of all
    the worldrCOs virtues, particularly those involving freedom. rCyWe think
    theyrCOre American values,rCO said Hillary Clinton in 2014 when she was
    promoting a book about her time as secretary of state, rCybut in my view,
    theyrCOre universal values and we need to stand up for them.rCO Of course, >> if they really were universal values we wouldnrCOt need to stand up for them.

    Lyndon B. Johnson had similar thoughts. rCyThe land flourished because it
    was fed from so many sources,rCO he said in the mid-1960s. But thatrCOs not >> true, either. Culturally speaking, the US is a varied place rCo at least
    during its periodic bursts of uncontrolled immigration. But as a
    constitutional matter it is not diverse at all. What makes the US great
    is a very specific set of institutions, intuitions and cultural habits
    that it inherited from one country: England.

    Constitutionally, America is still an English place: Lockean in peace,
    Hobbesian in war. That is why it has managed to last for 250 years while
    both infuriating other western nations and inciting their envy. The
    English are an outlier among European peoples, especially in their idea
    of liberty, which was until quite recently as absolutist as ours and
    difficult for other quite advanced civilisations to understand. (This
    was before Keir Starmer began sending armed police to arrest pensioners
    for their Facebook posts.)

    No continental nation has ever been so strongly allergic to political
    censorship as the British were a century after their own civil war, when
    we were writing our First Amendment. Nor was there ever a nation-state
    with the reverence for unfettered trade that the English had rCo
    especially with the first stirrings of the Industrial Revolution, which
    came as the American Revolution was beginning. (The other great thing
    that happened in 1776, coincidentally or not, was the publication of the
    Scotsman Adam SmithrCOs The Wealth of Nations.) In the 18th century, those >> most inclined to agitate for commercial adventurism were the very Whigs
    who made up the revolutionary elites of the 13 colonies. When the
    revolution succeeded, their ideals were radicalised by the fact that the
    conservative opposition to them had been chucked out. So American ways
    are not wispy universalisms. They are cultural achievements, if we can
    use that word for the fervently held prejudices of the most acquisitive
    subgroup of the most irrational people in Europe.

    As prejudices go, these are ancient ones. The Englishmen of the 13
    colonies took up universal male suffrage long before anyone in the old
    country thought to. We codified the duties of our chief executive before
    the French declared an end to kings in 1789. As a result, America, for
    all its superficial modernity, is more tightly bound than other western
    countries to more traditional forms of social organisation. It was set
    up when peoplerCOs ideas of right and wrong owed as much to the
    Renaissance as to the Enlightenment. A mix of monarchical sentiment and
    classical republican ideals was coursing through the hearts of the early
    columnists, as the Harvard historian Eric Nelson showed in his 2014 book
    The Royalist Revolution.

    NelsonrCOs Harvard colleague, the political theorist Harvey Mansfield,
    called American liberal democracy a rCymixed regimerCO, balancing the
    Aristotelian categories of democracy, oligarchy and monarchy. The
    historians Rowland Berthoff and John M. Murrin argued 50 years ago that
    the FoundersrCO understanding of classical republican virtues was indeed
    in vogue in the 18th century, but in the early part of the century. So
    by the 1780s, these ideas were already a bit fogey-ish, and certain
    patriots might have professed them as a defence against accelerating
    change. Today, the persistence of American hegemony even in the face of
    the countryrCOs economic and cultural decline mystifies many people. But
    perhaps AmericarCOs antique, pre-democratic elements suit it to a period
    in which we seem to be witnessing the close of the 250-year-long
    Enlightenment parenthesis.

    Europeans, including Brits, have older cultures than ours, but newer
    political cultures. In recent years they have been slower to take up the
    American progressive brainstorms of the post-Cold War era rCo from
    wokeness to gender ideology rCo but have clung to them even as those
    novelties have grown slightly ridiculous in the US. Why is this? We
    should recall what we were saying about the radicalising effect of
    expelling an opposition. America, after the flight of the Tories in the
    1770s and 1780s, became a narrower-minded but more purposeful, more
    streamlined Britain.

    History offers plenty of other examples. Consider the sudden
    conservatism of Francisco FrancorCOs Spain rCo which had been for more than >> a century a hotbed of anti-clericalism rCo after its Civil War ended in
    1939. Or consider the way Russia has evolved in a more nationalist
    direction since the Ukraine war, with the self-exile of its cosmopolitan
    elites to Berlin, Istanbul and elsewhere. (It was one of Vladimir
    PutinrCOs more savvy acts of statesmanship that, rather than insisting his >> adversaries share the sacrifice of the war, he let them flee it, and
    with it their share in the running of the state.)

    In the wake of the second world war, the countries of western Europe
    were refounded in such a way as to exclude those elements incompatible
    with international rules laid down by the US. These rules were devised
    by the most gifted State Department diplomats of the generation of
    George F. Kennan and Dean Acheson, and elaborated by the most gifted
    nonprofit technocrats of the generation of George Soros. The result has
    been the remaking of the civilised world as liberal AmericarCOs
    caricature. Does Germany, for instance, owe more to Frederick the Great
    and Bismarck than it does to JFK and LBJ? No one who witnessed the
    adulation of Barack Obama on the streets of Berlin in 2008 will consider
    the answer obvious.

    Elements of populist America, and not just Donald Trump, have grown
    uneasy with the progressive drift of Europe, its evolution into a
    borderless and even nationless space. American conservativesrCO more
    general preoccupation about Europe is of longer standing. If Christopher
    Lasch is right that liberalism is parasitical on conservatism, relying
    on it for stability, predictability and common sense, then the American
    Empire depends similarly on cues from the more traditional cultures out
    of which it was built. Victory in the Cold War robbed the US of this
    resource, unleashing the character-sapping, empire-eroding power of
    consumerism, much as the Spanish discovery of silver in Potos|! unleashed
    the character-sapping, empire-eroding power of inflation. Too bad.
    Preserving republics has been understood through most of history to mean
    preserving specific peoples and their specific virtues.

    The US has, over the past 250 years, followed much the same course as
    Britain, only slightly later. We, like the British, built an empire in
    the 19th century rCo we just tend not to notice it because it turned into
    our country. From the present perspective, the quarter-millennium of US
    history breaks down into three periods of roughly 80 years apiece,
    separated by two ruptures. There is the constitutional era that was
    ended by the Civil War rCo LincolnrCOs refounding of the country. There was >> an industrial era, ruled over by railroad men and Wall Street
    financiers, that reached its culmination with the second world war rCo
    Franklin RooseveltrCOs refounding. This brought an imperial era, ruled
    over by technocrats and techies. As in Britain a century ago, a debate
    seems set to begin on whether this empire, too, has run its course.


    Christopher Caldwell

    Thoughty. Thanks julian. More of that and less political trashing
    would be nice. Make short fat guy great again.

    No Kings!
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