• burgerr war

    From Noah Sombrero@fedora@fea.st to alt.buddha.short.fat.guy on Wed Jun 24 22:51:05 2026
    From Newsgroup: alt.buddha.short.fat.guy


    NY Times,

    June 24, 2026

    Why does our seemingly competitive two-party system produce so much
    stagnation and corruption?

    By David French

    ThereAs a line from a speech that I keep thinking about.

    I wrote about it last month. Shane Massey, the Republican majority
    leader in the South Carolina Senate, spoke against a Trump-inspired
    plan to redistrict the state.

    oI will tell my Republican friends: Republicans are stronger when the
    Democrat Party is vibrant and viable,o Massey said. oWe are.
    Competition makes you better, yAall.o

    IAm reminded of a conversation I had many years ago with a friend who
    was then a senior executive at McDonaldAs (my favorite restaurant).
    When we spoke it was obvious that McDonaldAs had decisively won the
    burger wars, and that its chief competitors, Burger King and WendyAs,
    were no longer threats to dislodge Ronald McDonald from the Throne of
    Fries.

    I asked him if there was a sense of satisfaction at the company, and
    his response surprised me. oI have mixed feelings,o he said. oWe were
    a great company when the competition was intense.o

    The innovation and energy required to stave off a challenger was
    invigorating and perhaps most crucially, it staved off stagnation.

    So why isnAt this happening in American politics? Our nation has two
    parties of near-identical size and power, at least in theory. Control
    of the national government routinely flips back and forth, and even
    when one side wins full control its margins of victory are extremely
    narrow.

    And yet, instead of creating innovation and energy, our political
    competition seems to be yielding stagnation and corruption. I donAt
    believe that stagnation and corruption exist equally on both sides of
    the aisle, but itAs hard to find anyone who believes the Democratic
    Party is healthy and vibrant, especially after two losses to Donald
    Trump.

    Even if the two parties arenAt equally corrupt, they do share a
    different common characteristic: TheyAre equally repulsive to the
    public.

    A Gallup poll in January found that 45 percent of Americans identify
    as independents, a record since Gallup began regular polling in 1988.
    Equal percentages of adults, 27 percent, identify as Republicans or as Democrats.

    This doesnAt mean that neither side can win. When the public is
    disgusted with the current leadership, it has but one other
    alternative. Many voters are voting against incumbents more than
    theyAre endorsing their challengers.

    If the competition between McDonaldAs and Burger King gave us tastier
    fries, somehow the competition between Republicans and Democrats is
    giving us rotten politics.

    But what if we donAt actually have a competitive two-party system?
    What if our nation actually has two one-party systems, instead? And if
    the United States has two one-party systems, then that means that each
    way they turn voters are confronted with the arrogance, stagnation and corruption that almost always disfigures single-party rule.

    The best illustration of this reality is found in state government
    otrifectas.o ThatAs the term for a state where one party controls the governorAs mansion and both houses of the state legislature. As of
    this month, there are 23 Republican trifectas and 16 Democratic ones.
    That leaves 11 states with divided governments.

    Republicans may govern more states, but Democratic states tend to be
    more populous. As a result, a roughly equal percentage of Americans
    live under total red or blue rule. As of January, 39.1 percent of
    Americans lived in blue trifecta states, and 41.5 percent lived in red
    trifecta states, which means that less than 20 percent of the
    population lives in a divided state.

    Combine trifecta state control with aggressive partisan gerrymanders,
    and you have exactly the situation in Congress that my colleague Tom
    Edsall described this week: oAn overwhelming majority of House members
    run in districts that are safe in the general election, where the only
    threat to an incumbent is from a more ideologically extreme challenger
    in the primary.o

    Another way of putting it is that the other side is so weak in so many
    states and congressional districts that politicians can build entire
    careers without having to appeal to voters on the other side of the
    aisle.

    For example, even in a year of remarkable public discontent, in which
    the House may well change hands, the vast majority of members of
    Congress are completely safe. The Cook Political Report lists 186
    districts as solid Republican and 182 districts as solid Democrat.
    There are only 18 tossup races. If you add in the 20 races that merely
    lean in one direction or the other, that gives you a grand total of 38 competitive races in a 435-member House of Representatives.

    As a result, one-party politicians are often born in the partiesA
    bases and inept at reaching anyone even a few inches to their
    ideological right or left. In fact, the very effort to reach out to
    the opposition is usually interpreted as weakness, a misguided
    compromise against an uncompromising foe.

    The art of compromise vanishes before our eyes. After all, generations
    of politicians now come from the roughly 80 percent of the country
    where compromise is almost always unnecessary. Compromises are
    internal only, as the party negotiates with itself. The opposition
    might as well not exist.

    The partisan majority in a single-party state will often radicalize.
    As IAve explained before, the law of group polarization suggests that
    when like-minded people deliberate, they tend to become more extreme.
    Red bubbles get redder, Blue bubbles get bluer.

    ItAs not just that the two sides separate ideologically. They also
    develop very different political cultures u to the extent that each
    side is completely convinced that the other side is just, well, weird.
    Our nation is full of radicalized people who donAt fully understand
    that theyAre radical because everyone they know agrees with everything
    they say.

    IAve heard Republicans and Democrats use exactly the same oStar Warso
    reference to describe the other side. TheyAll say the other sideAs
    convention, for example, is like the Mos Eisley Cantina, the bar in
    oStar Warso filled with bizarre creatures from across the galaxy.

    Compounding the problem, the sheer size of the red and blue trifectas
    mean that they define the nature of the respective parties, not
    swing-state politicians u even though swing-state politicians are
    indispensable to party control. The single-party partisans tell us
    what it means to be a orealo Republican or a orealo Democrat and often
    despise the rare politicians from their own party who can win on
    hostile ground. TheyAre the squishes, after all.

    Politics is always vulnerable to corruption, but single-party rule can
    be a virtual petri dish for favoritism and graft. We all know that
    institutions tend to be terrible at policing themselves, and when one
    party possesses complete control, it is rarely as vigilant at
    punishing its own as it is at pummeling the other side.

    Even swing states arenAt immune from the maladies of one-party rule.
    The states themselves are often carved up into one-party enclaves.

    President Trump is perhaps the ultimate example of what one-party rule
    in a two-party nation can produce. While he governs for himself (as
    many one-party politicians do), heAs also vicious and vengeful to the
    other side, and so long as he keeps attacking the hated Democratic
    foe, his party will gladly cover for his corruption and graft.

    But if the Democrats challenge Trump with the products of their own
    one-party rule, with a candidate who canAt even begin to speak the
    language of the swing voter, much less the language of the disaffected Republican, then weAre setting ourselves up for yet another lurch back
    to the competing extreme.

    There is no easy way for Americans to change this dynamic. But perhaps
    u just perhaps u we can start by turning to those politicians whoAve
    proven that theyAre culturally and politically bilingual. They can win
    on hostile (or purple) ground. One can think of Andy Beshear, the
    governor of Kentucky, or Josh Shapiro, the governor of Pennsylvania.
    On the Republican side, I can still remember when Charlie Baker, as
    governor of Massachusetts, was by some counts the most popular
    governor in America. In 2022, he recorded a stunning 74 percent
    approval rating.

    All of these politicians, though, suffer from the same vulnerability.
    The partisan base can believe theyAre weak, that theyAre not real
    Democrats or Republicans, mere DINOs or RINOs. But a party shouldnAt
    be defined by its most zealous ideologues. Why would a progressive in
    Brooklyn be a more authentic representative of the Democratic Party
    than a moderate in Tennessee? The same analysis applies to
    Republicans. You are not more Republican the more guns you own or the
    more often you go to church u that makes you a type of Republican, but
    not the ideal form.

    There are many, many Republicans, for example, who will rejoice if
    Susan Collins loses in Maine. She voted to convict Trump, and which
    real Republican would do that? There should be no such thing as the
    model ideological candidate.

    To quote the Apostle Paul in 1 Corinthians, one body has many parts,
    and othe eye cannot say to the hand, aI donAt need you!A And the head
    cannot say to the feet, aI donAt need you!Ao The parties need
    ideological diversity. Groupthink is dangerous, no matter where it is
    found.

    IAd like to end a rather bleak newsletter with a dash of optimism. As
    the Gallup poll indicates, present trends cannot continue forever. If
    the number of independents continues to grow, and the share of
    partisans continues to shrink, the present system will grow more
    unstable. A diminishing percentage of Americans will not be able to
    hold the same amount of power.

    One-party rule can look imposing, but it is often fragile. It wasnAt
    that long ago, for example, when there was a different kind of
    one-party rule in the South, and then it shifted from Democratic to
    Republican. It wasnAt that long ago that California was a swing state,
    or that Iowa was briefly part of the Democratic PartyAs blue wall.

    It might take time u far too much time u but when the single party
    fails, eventually the dormant second party revives, the logjam breaks
    and the system resets. But until then our one-party politics is
    undermining our two-party system, and our competition is reduced to
    determining which broken party will prevail.
    --
    Noah Sombrero mustachioed villain
    Don't get political with me young man
    or I'll tie you to a railroad track and
    <<<talk>>> to <<<YOOooooo>>>
    Who dares to talk to El Sombrero?
    dares: Ned
    does not dare: Julian shrinks in horror and warns others away

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  • From dart200@user7160@newsgrouper.org.invalid to alt.buddha.short.fat.guy,alt.messianic on Wed Jun 24 20:39:28 2026
    From Newsgroup: alt.buddha.short.fat.guy

    On 6/24/26 7:51 PM, Noah Sombrero wrote:

    NY Times,

    June 24, 2026

    Why does our seemingly competitive two-party system produce so much stagnation and corruption?

    because a duopoly isn't competition,

    and because it's actually one club of people: oligarchs


    By David French

    ThererCOs a line from a speech that I keep thinking about.

    I wrote about it last month. Shane Massey, the Republican majority
    leader in the South Carolina Senate, spoke against a Trump-inspired
    plan to redistrict the state.

    rCLI will tell my Republican friends: Republicans are stronger when the Democrat Party is vibrant and viable,rCY Massey said. rCLWe are.
    Competition makes you better, yrCOall.rCY

    IrCOm reminded of a conversation I had many years ago with a friend who
    was then a senior executive at McDonaldrCOs (my favorite restaurant).

    (imagine ur favorite restaurant being mcdonalds Efnu)

    When we spoke it was obvious that McDonaldrCOs had decisively won the
    burger wars, and that its chief competitors, Burger King and WendyrCOs,
    were no longer threats to dislodge Ronald McDonald from the Throne of
    Fries.

    I asked him if there was a sense of satisfaction at the company, and
    his response surprised me. rCLI have mixed feelings,rCY he said. rCLWe were
    a great company when the competition was intense.rCY

    The innovation and energy required to stave off a challenger was
    invigorating and perhaps most crucially, it staved off stagnation.

    So why isnrCOt this happening in American politics? Our nation has two parties of near-identical size and power, at least in theory. Control
    of the national government routinely flips back and forth, and even
    when one side wins full control its margins of victory are extremely
    narrow.

    And yet, instead of creating innovation and energy, our political
    competition seems to be yielding stagnation and corruption. I donrCOt
    believe that stagnation and corruption exist equally on both sides of
    the aisle, but itrCOs hard to find anyone who believes the Democratic
    Party is healthy and vibrant, especially after two losses to Donald
    Trump.

    Even if the two parties arenrCOt equally corrupt, they do share a
    different common characteristic: TheyrCOre equally repulsive to the
    public.

    A Gallup poll in January found that 45 percent of Americans identify
    as independents, a record since Gallup began regular polling in 1988.
    Equal percentages of adults, 27 percent, identify as Republicans or as Democrats.

    This doesnrCOt mean that neither side can win. When the public is
    disgusted with the current leadership, it has but one other
    alternative. Many voters are voting against incumbents more than
    theyrCOre endorsing their challengers.

    If the competition between McDonaldrCOs and Burger King gave us tastier fries, somehow the competition between Republicans and Democrats is
    giving us rotten politics.

    But what if we donrCOt actually have a competitive two-party system?
    What if our nation actually has two one-party systems, instead? And if
    the United States has two one-party systems, then that means that each
    way they turn voters are confronted with the arrogance, stagnation and corruption that almost always disfigures single-party rule.

    The best illustration of this reality is found in state government rCLtrifectas.rCY ThatrCOs the term for a state where one party controls the governorrCOs mansion and both houses of the state legislature. As of
    this month, there are 23 Republican trifectas and 16 Democratic ones.
    That leaves 11 states with divided governments.

    Republicans may govern more states, but Democratic states tend to be
    more populous. As a result, a roughly equal percentage of Americans
    live under total red or blue rule. As of January, 39.1 percent of
    Americans lived in blue trifecta states, and 41.5 percent lived in red trifecta states, which means that less than 20 percent of the
    population lives in a divided state.

    Combine trifecta state control with aggressive partisan gerrymanders,
    and you have exactly the situation in Congress that my colleague Tom
    Edsall described this week: rCLAn overwhelming majority of House members
    run in districts that are safe in the general election, where the only
    threat to an incumbent is from a more ideologically extreme challenger
    in the primary.rCY

    Another way of putting it is that the other side is so weak in so many
    states and congressional districts that politicians can build entire
    careers without having to appeal to voters on the other side of the
    aisle.

    For example, even in a year of remarkable public discontent, in which
    the House may well change hands, the vast majority of members of
    Congress are completely safe. The Cook Political Report lists 186
    districts as solid Republican and 182 districts as solid Democrat.
    There are only 18 tossup races. If you add in the 20 races that merely
    lean in one direction or the other, that gives you a grand total of 38 competitive races in a 435-member House of Representatives.

    As a result, one-party politicians are often born in the partiesrCO
    bases and inept at reaching anyone even a few inches to their
    ideological right or left. In fact, the very effort to reach out to
    the opposition is usually interpreted as weakness, a misguided
    compromise against an uncompromising foe.

    The art of compromise vanishes before our eyes. After all, generations
    of politicians now come from the roughly 80 percent of the country
    where compromise is almost always unnecessary. Compromises are
    internal only, as the party negotiates with itself. The opposition
    might as well not exist.

    The partisan majority in a single-party state will often radicalize.
    As IrCOve explained before, the law of group polarization suggests that
    when like-minded people deliberate, they tend to become more extreme.
    Red bubbles get redder, Blue bubbles get bluer.

    ItrCOs not just that the two sides separate ideologically. They also
    develop very different political cultures rCo to the extent that each
    side is completely convinced that the other side is just, well, weird.
    Our nation is full of radicalized people who donrCOt fully understand
    that theyrCOre radical because everyone they know agrees with everything
    they say.

    IrCOve heard Republicans and Democrats use exactly the same rCLStar WarsrCY reference to describe the other side. TheyrCOll say the other siderCOs convention, for example, is like the Mos Eisley Cantina, the bar in
    rCLStar WarsrCY filled with bizarre creatures from across the galaxy.

    Compounding the problem, the sheer size of the red and blue trifectas
    mean that they define the nature of the respective parties, not
    swing-state politicians rCo even though swing-state politicians are indispensable to party control. The single-party partisans tell us
    what it means to be a rCLrealrCY Republican or a rCLrealrCY Democrat and often
    despise the rare politicians from their own party who can win on
    hostile ground. TheyrCOre the squishes, after all.

    Politics is always vulnerable to corruption, but single-party rule can
    be a virtual petri dish for favoritism and graft. We all know that institutions tend to be terrible at policing themselves, and when one
    party possesses complete control, it is rarely as vigilant at
    punishing its own as it is at pummeling the other side.

    Even swing states arenrCOt immune from the maladies of one-party rule.
    The states themselves are often carved up into one-party enclaves.

    President Trump is perhaps the ultimate example of what one-party rule
    in a two-party nation can produce. While he governs for himself (as
    many one-party politicians do), herCOs also vicious and vengeful to the
    other side, and so long as he keeps attacking the hated Democratic
    foe, his party will gladly cover for his corruption and graft.

    But if the Democrats challenge Trump with the products of their own
    one-party rule, with a candidate who canrCOt even begin to speak the
    language of the swing voter, much less the language of the disaffected Republican, then werCOre setting ourselves up for yet another lurch back
    to the competing extreme.

    There is no easy way for Americans to change this dynamic. But perhaps
    rCo just perhaps rCo we can start by turning to those politicians whorCOve proven that theyrCOre culturally and politically bilingual. They can win
    on hostile (or purple) ground. One can think of Andy Beshear, the
    governor of Kentucky, or Josh Shapiro, the governor of Pennsylvania.
    On the Republican side, I can still remember when Charlie Baker, as
    governor of Massachusetts, was by some counts the most popular
    governor in America. In 2022, he recorded a stunning 74 percent
    approval rating.

    All of these politicians, though, suffer from the same vulnerability.
    The partisan base can believe theyrCOre weak, that theyrCOre not real Democrats or Republicans, mere DINOs or RINOs. But a party shouldnrCOt
    be defined by its most zealous ideologues. Why would a progressive in Brooklyn be a more authentic representative of the Democratic Party
    than a moderate in Tennessee? The same analysis applies to
    Republicans. You are not more Republican the more guns you own or the
    more often you go to church rCo that makes you a type of Republican, but
    not the ideal form.

    There are many, many Republicans, for example, who will rejoice if
    Susan Collins loses in Maine. She voted to convict Trump, and which
    real Republican would do that? There should be no such thing as the
    model ideological candidate.

    To quote the Apostle Paul in 1 Corinthians, one body has many parts,
    and rCLthe eye cannot say to the hand, rCyI donrCOt need you!rCO And the head cannot say to the feet, rCyI donrCOt need you!rCOrCY The parties need ideological diversity. Groupthink is dangerous, no matter where it is
    found.

    IrCOd like to end a rather bleak newsletter with a dash of optimism. As
    the Gallup poll indicates, present trends cannot continue forever. If
    the number of independents continues to grow, and the share of
    partisans continues to shrink, the present system will grow more
    unstable. A diminishing percentage of Americans will not be able to
    hold the same amount of power.

    One-party rule can look imposing, but it is often fragile. It wasnrCOt
    that long ago, for example, when there was a different kind of
    one-party rule in the South, and then it shifted from Democratic to Republican. It wasnrCOt that long ago that California was a swing state,
    or that Iowa was briefly part of the Democratic PartyrCOs blue wall.

    It might take time rCo far too much time rCo but when the single party
    fails, eventually the dormant second party revives, the logjam breaks
    and the system resets. But until then our one-party politics is
    undermining our two-party system, and our competition is reduced to determining which broken party will prevail.

    dissolve the senate, it was just a needless check on actual democracy

    reform the executive presidency into an executive council (5 reps from 3 parties: 2,2,1) requiring consensus decision making where each can vote pass/neg/block - majority to pass, no blocking votes
    --
    why are we god?
    let's end war EfOa

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  • From Noah Sombrero@fedora@fea.st to alt.buddha.short.fat.guy on Thu Jun 25 00:17:40 2026
    From Newsgroup: alt.buddha.short.fat.guy

    On Wed, 24 Jun 2026 20:39:28 -0700, dart200
    <user7160@newsgrouper.org.invalid> wrote:

    On 6/24/26 7:51 PM, Noah Sombrero wrote:

    NY Times,

    June 24, 2026

    Why does our seemingly competitive two-party system produce so much
    stagnation and corruption?

    because a duopoly isn't competition,

    and because it's actually one club of people: oligarchs


    By David French

    ThereAs a line from a speech that I keep thinking about.

    I wrote about it last month. Shane Massey, the Republican majority
    leader in the South Carolina Senate, spoke against a Trump-inspired
    plan to redistrict the state.

    oI will tell my Republican friends: Republicans are stronger when the
    Democrat Party is vibrant and viable,o Massey said. oWe are.
    Competition makes you better, yAall.o

    IAm reminded of a conversation I had many years ago with a friend who
    was then a senior executive at McDonaldAs (my favorite restaurant).

    (imagine ur favorite restaurant being mcdonalds ?)

    When we spoke it was obvious that McDonaldAs had decisively won the
    burger wars, and that its chief competitors, Burger King and WendyAs,
    were no longer threats to dislodge Ronald McDonald from the Throne of
    Fries.

    I asked him if there was a sense of satisfaction at the company, and
    his response surprised me. oI have mixed feelings,o he said. oWe were
    a great company when the competition was intense.o

    The innovation and energy required to stave off a challenger was
    invigorating and perhaps most crucially, it staved off stagnation.

    So why isnAt this happening in American politics? Our nation has two
    parties of near-identical size and power, at least in theory. Control
    of the national government routinely flips back and forth, and even
    when one side wins full control its margins of victory are extremely
    narrow.

    And yet, instead of creating innovation and energy, our political
    competition seems to be yielding stagnation and corruption. I donAt
    believe that stagnation and corruption exist equally on both sides of
    the aisle, but itAs hard to find anyone who believes the Democratic
    Party is healthy and vibrant, especially after two losses to Donald
    Trump.

    Even if the two parties arenAt equally corrupt, they do share a
    different common characteristic: TheyAre equally repulsive to the
    public.

    A Gallup poll in January found that 45 percent of Americans identify
    as independents, a record since Gallup began regular polling in 1988.
    Equal percentages of adults, 27 percent, identify as Republicans or as
    Democrats.

    This doesnAt mean that neither side can win. When the public is
    disgusted with the current leadership, it has but one other
    alternative. Many voters are voting against incumbents more than
    theyAre endorsing their challengers.

    If the competition between McDonaldAs and Burger King gave us tastier
    fries, somehow the competition between Republicans and Democrats is
    giving us rotten politics.

    But what if we donAt actually have a competitive two-party system?
    What if our nation actually has two one-party systems, instead? And if
    the United States has two one-party systems, then that means that each
    way they turn voters are confronted with the arrogance, stagnation and
    corruption that almost always disfigures single-party rule.

    The best illustration of this reality is found in state government
    otrifectas.o ThatAs the term for a state where one party controls the
    governorAs mansion and both houses of the state legislature. As of
    this month, there are 23 Republican trifectas and 16 Democratic ones.
    That leaves 11 states with divided governments.

    Republicans may govern more states, but Democratic states tend to be
    more populous. As a result, a roughly equal percentage of Americans
    live under total red or blue rule. As of January, 39.1 percent of
    Americans lived in blue trifecta states, and 41.5 percent lived in red
    trifecta states, which means that less than 20 percent of the
    population lives in a divided state.

    Combine trifecta state control with aggressive partisan gerrymanders,
    and you have exactly the situation in Congress that my colleague Tom
    Edsall described this week: oAn overwhelming majority of House members
    run in districts that are safe in the general election, where the only
    threat to an incumbent is from a more ideologically extreme challenger
    in the primary.o

    Another way of putting it is that the other side is so weak in so many
    states and congressional districts that politicians can build entire
    careers without having to appeal to voters on the other side of the
    aisle.

    For example, even in a year of remarkable public discontent, in which
    the House may well change hands, the vast majority of members of
    Congress are completely safe. The Cook Political Report lists 186
    districts as solid Republican and 182 districts as solid Democrat.
    There are only 18 tossup races. If you add in the 20 races that merely
    lean in one direction or the other, that gives you a grand total of 38
    competitive races in a 435-member House of Representatives.

    As a result, one-party politicians are often born in the partiesA
    bases and inept at reaching anyone even a few inches to their
    ideological right or left. In fact, the very effort to reach out to
    the opposition is usually interpreted as weakness, a misguided
    compromise against an uncompromising foe.

    The art of compromise vanishes before our eyes. After all, generations
    of politicians now come from the roughly 80 percent of the country
    where compromise is almost always unnecessary. Compromises are
    internal only, as the party negotiates with itself. The opposition
    might as well not exist.

    The partisan majority in a single-party state will often radicalize.
    As IAve explained before, the law of group polarization suggests that
    when like-minded people deliberate, they tend to become more extreme.
    Red bubbles get redder, Blue bubbles get bluer.

    ItAs not just that the two sides separate ideologically. They also
    develop very different political cultures u to the extent that each
    side is completely convinced that the other side is just, well, weird.
    Our nation is full of radicalized people who donAt fully understand
    that theyAre radical because everyone they know agrees with everything
    they say.

    IAve heard Republicans and Democrats use exactly the same oStar Warso
    reference to describe the other side. TheyAll say the other sideAs
    convention, for example, is like the Mos Eisley Cantina, the bar in
    oStar Warso filled with bizarre creatures from across the galaxy.

    Compounding the problem, the sheer size of the red and blue trifectas
    mean that they define the nature of the respective parties, not
    swing-state politicians u even though swing-state politicians are
    indispensable to party control. The single-party partisans tell us
    what it means to be a orealo Republican or a orealo Democrat and often
    despise the rare politicians from their own party who can win on
    hostile ground. TheyAre the squishes, after all.

    Politics is always vulnerable to corruption, but single-party rule can
    be a virtual petri dish for favoritism and graft. We all know that
    institutions tend to be terrible at policing themselves, and when one
    party possesses complete control, it is rarely as vigilant at
    punishing its own as it is at pummeling the other side.

    Even swing states arenAt immune from the maladies of one-party rule.
    The states themselves are often carved up into one-party enclaves.

    President Trump is perhaps the ultimate example of what one-party rule
    in a two-party nation can produce. While he governs for himself (as
    many one-party politicians do), heAs also vicious and vengeful to the
    other side, and so long as he keeps attacking the hated Democratic
    foe, his party will gladly cover for his corruption and graft.

    But if the Democrats challenge Trump with the products of their own
    one-party rule, with a candidate who canAt even begin to speak the
    language of the swing voter, much less the language of the disaffected
    Republican, then weAre setting ourselves up for yet another lurch back
    to the competing extreme.

    There is no easy way for Americans to change this dynamic. But perhaps
    u just perhaps u we can start by turning to those politicians whoAve
    proven that theyAre culturally and politically bilingual. They can win
    on hostile (or purple) ground. One can think of Andy Beshear, the
    governor of Kentucky, or Josh Shapiro, the governor of Pennsylvania.
    On the Republican side, I can still remember when Charlie Baker, as
    governor of Massachusetts, was by some counts the most popular
    governor in America. In 2022, he recorded a stunning 74 percent
    approval rating.

    All of these politicians, though, suffer from the same vulnerability.
    The partisan base can believe theyAre weak, that theyAre not real
    Democrats or Republicans, mere DINOs or RINOs. But a party shouldnAt
    be defined by its most zealous ideologues. Why would a progressive in
    Brooklyn be a more authentic representative of the Democratic Party
    than a moderate in Tennessee? The same analysis applies to
    Republicans. You are not more Republican the more guns you own or the
    more often you go to church u that makes you a type of Republican, but
    not the ideal form.

    There are many, many Republicans, for example, who will rejoice if
    Susan Collins loses in Maine. She voted to convict Trump, and which
    real Republican would do that? There should be no such thing as the
    model ideological candidate.

    To quote the Apostle Paul in 1 Corinthians, one body has many parts,
    and othe eye cannot say to the hand, aI donAt need you!A And the head
    cannot say to the feet, aI donAt need you!Ao The parties need
    ideological diversity. Groupthink is dangerous, no matter where it is
    found.

    IAd like to end a rather bleak newsletter with a dash of optimism. As
    the Gallup poll indicates, present trends cannot continue forever. If
    the number of independents continues to grow, and the share of
    partisans continues to shrink, the present system will grow more
    unstable. A diminishing percentage of Americans will not be able to
    hold the same amount of power.

    One-party rule can look imposing, but it is often fragile. It wasnAt
    that long ago, for example, when there was a different kind of
    one-party rule in the South, and then it shifted from Democratic to
    Republican. It wasnAt that long ago that California was a swing state,
    or that Iowa was briefly part of the Democratic PartyAs blue wall.

    It might take time u far too much time u but when the single party
    fails, eventually the dormant second party revives, the logjam breaks
    and the system resets. But until then our one-party politics is
    undermining our two-party system, and our competition is reduced to
    determining which broken party will prevail.

    dissolve the senate, it was just a needless check on actual democracy

    reform the executive presidency into an executive council (5 reps from 3 >parties: 2,2,1) requiring consensus decision making where each can vote >pass/neg/block - majority to pass, no blocking votes

    Shared power has been tried a number of times since the romans tried
    it first. So far it has not worked well.

    The problem that govt's mostly fail to address is what to do with
    people with towering ambition? Lock them up and allow them no access
    to media?
    --
    Noah Sombrero mustachioed villain
    Don't get political with me young man
    or I'll tie you to a railroad track and
    <<<talk>>> to <<<YOOooooo>>>
    Who dares to talk to El Sombrero?
    dares: Ned
    does not dare: Julian shrinks in horror and warns others away

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  • From dart200@user7160@newsgrouper.org.invalid to alt.buddha.short.fat.guy on Wed Jun 24 21:26:41 2026
    From Newsgroup: alt.buddha.short.fat.guy

    On 6/24/26 9:17 PM, Noah Sombrero wrote:
    On Wed, 24 Jun 2026 20:39:28 -0700, dart200 <user7160@newsgrouper.org.invalid> wrote:

    On 6/24/26 7:51 PM, Noah Sombrero wrote:

    NY Times,

    June 24, 2026

    Why does our seemingly competitive two-party system produce so much
    stagnation and corruption?

    because a duopoly isn't competition,

    and because it's actually one club of people: oligarchs


    By David French

    ThererCOs a line from a speech that I keep thinking about.

    I wrote about it last month. Shane Massey, the Republican majority
    leader in the South Carolina Senate, spoke against a Trump-inspired
    plan to redistrict the state.

    rCLI will tell my Republican friends: Republicans are stronger when the
    Democrat Party is vibrant and viable,rCY Massey said. rCLWe are.
    Competition makes you better, yrCOall.rCY

    IrCOm reminded of a conversation I had many years ago with a friend who
    was then a senior executive at McDonaldrCOs (my favorite restaurant).

    (imagine ur favorite restaurant being mcdonalds ?)

    When we spoke it was obvious that McDonaldrCOs had decisively won the
    burger wars, and that its chief competitors, Burger King and WendyrCOs,
    were no longer threats to dislodge Ronald McDonald from the Throne of
    Fries.

    I asked him if there was a sense of satisfaction at the company, and
    his response surprised me. rCLI have mixed feelings,rCY he said. rCLWe were >>> a great company when the competition was intense.rCY

    The innovation and energy required to stave off a challenger was
    invigorating and perhaps most crucially, it staved off stagnation.

    So why isnrCOt this happening in American politics? Our nation has two
    parties of near-identical size and power, at least in theory. Control
    of the national government routinely flips back and forth, and even
    when one side wins full control its margins of victory are extremely
    narrow.

    And yet, instead of creating innovation and energy, our political
    competition seems to be yielding stagnation and corruption. I donrCOt
    believe that stagnation and corruption exist equally on both sides of
    the aisle, but itrCOs hard to find anyone who believes the Democratic
    Party is healthy and vibrant, especially after two losses to Donald
    Trump.

    Even if the two parties arenrCOt equally corrupt, they do share a
    different common characteristic: TheyrCOre equally repulsive to the
    public.

    A Gallup poll in January found that 45 percent of Americans identify
    as independents, a record since Gallup began regular polling in 1988.
    Equal percentages of adults, 27 percent, identify as Republicans or as
    Democrats.

    This doesnrCOt mean that neither side can win. When the public is
    disgusted with the current leadership, it has but one other
    alternative. Many voters are voting against incumbents more than
    theyrCOre endorsing their challengers.

    If the competition between McDonaldrCOs and Burger King gave us tastier
    fries, somehow the competition between Republicans and Democrats is
    giving us rotten politics.

    But what if we donrCOt actually have a competitive two-party system?
    What if our nation actually has two one-party systems, instead? And if
    the United States has two one-party systems, then that means that each
    way they turn voters are confronted with the arrogance, stagnation and
    corruption that almost always disfigures single-party rule.

    The best illustration of this reality is found in state government
    rCLtrifectas.rCY ThatrCOs the term for a state where one party controls the >>> governorrCOs mansion and both houses of the state legislature. As of
    this month, there are 23 Republican trifectas and 16 Democratic ones.
    That leaves 11 states with divided governments.

    Republicans may govern more states, but Democratic states tend to be
    more populous. As a result, a roughly equal percentage of Americans
    live under total red or blue rule. As of January, 39.1 percent of
    Americans lived in blue trifecta states, and 41.5 percent lived in red
    trifecta states, which means that less than 20 percent of the
    population lives in a divided state.

    Combine trifecta state control with aggressive partisan gerrymanders,
    and you have exactly the situation in Congress that my colleague Tom
    Edsall described this week: rCLAn overwhelming majority of House members >>> run in districts that are safe in the general election, where the only
    threat to an incumbent is from a more ideologically extreme challenger
    in the primary.rCY

    Another way of putting it is that the other side is so weak in so many
    states and congressional districts that politicians can build entire
    careers without having to appeal to voters on the other side of the
    aisle.

    For example, even in a year of remarkable public discontent, in which
    the House may well change hands, the vast majority of members of
    Congress are completely safe. The Cook Political Report lists 186
    districts as solid Republican and 182 districts as solid Democrat.
    There are only 18 tossup races. If you add in the 20 races that merely
    lean in one direction or the other, that gives you a grand total of 38
    competitive races in a 435-member House of Representatives.

    As a result, one-party politicians are often born in the partiesrCO
    bases and inept at reaching anyone even a few inches to their
    ideological right or left. In fact, the very effort to reach out to
    the opposition is usually interpreted as weakness, a misguided
    compromise against an uncompromising foe.

    The art of compromise vanishes before our eyes. After all, generations
    of politicians now come from the roughly 80 percent of the country
    where compromise is almost always unnecessary. Compromises are
    internal only, as the party negotiates with itself. The opposition
    might as well not exist.

    The partisan majority in a single-party state will often radicalize.
    As IrCOve explained before, the law of group polarization suggests that
    when like-minded people deliberate, they tend to become more extreme.
    Red bubbles get redder, Blue bubbles get bluer.

    ItrCOs not just that the two sides separate ideologically. They also
    develop very different political cultures rCo to the extent that each
    side is completely convinced that the other side is just, well, weird.
    Our nation is full of radicalized people who donrCOt fully understand
    that theyrCOre radical because everyone they know agrees with everything >>> they say.

    IrCOve heard Republicans and Democrats use exactly the same rCLStar WarsrCY >>> reference to describe the other side. TheyrCOll say the other siderCOs
    convention, for example, is like the Mos Eisley Cantina, the bar in
    rCLStar WarsrCY filled with bizarre creatures from across the galaxy.

    Compounding the problem, the sheer size of the red and blue trifectas
    mean that they define the nature of the respective parties, not
    swing-state politicians rCo even though swing-state politicians are
    indispensable to party control. The single-party partisans tell us
    what it means to be a rCLrealrCY Republican or a rCLrealrCY Democrat and often
    despise the rare politicians from their own party who can win on
    hostile ground. TheyrCOre the squishes, after all.

    Politics is always vulnerable to corruption, but single-party rule can
    be a virtual petri dish for favoritism and graft. We all know that
    institutions tend to be terrible at policing themselves, and when one
    party possesses complete control, it is rarely as vigilant at
    punishing its own as it is at pummeling the other side.

    Even swing states arenrCOt immune from the maladies of one-party rule.
    The states themselves are often carved up into one-party enclaves.

    President Trump is perhaps the ultimate example of what one-party rule
    in a two-party nation can produce. While he governs for himself (as
    many one-party politicians do), herCOs also vicious and vengeful to the
    other side, and so long as he keeps attacking the hated Democratic
    foe, his party will gladly cover for his corruption and graft.

    But if the Democrats challenge Trump with the products of their own
    one-party rule, with a candidate who canrCOt even begin to speak the
    language of the swing voter, much less the language of the disaffected
    Republican, then werCOre setting ourselves up for yet another lurch back >>> to the competing extreme.

    There is no easy way for Americans to change this dynamic. But perhaps
    rCo just perhaps rCo we can start by turning to those politicians whorCOve >>> proven that theyrCOre culturally and politically bilingual. They can win >>> on hostile (or purple) ground. One can think of Andy Beshear, the
    governor of Kentucky, or Josh Shapiro, the governor of Pennsylvania.
    On the Republican side, I can still remember when Charlie Baker, as
    governor of Massachusetts, was by some counts the most popular
    governor in America. In 2022, he recorded a stunning 74 percent
    approval rating.

    All of these politicians, though, suffer from the same vulnerability.
    The partisan base can believe theyrCOre weak, that theyrCOre not real
    Democrats or Republicans, mere DINOs or RINOs. But a party shouldnrCOt
    be defined by its most zealous ideologues. Why would a progressive in
    Brooklyn be a more authentic representative of the Democratic Party
    than a moderate in Tennessee? The same analysis applies to
    Republicans. You are not more Republican the more guns you own or the
    more often you go to church rCo that makes you a type of Republican, but >>> not the ideal form.

    There are many, many Republicans, for example, who will rejoice if
    Susan Collins loses in Maine. She voted to convict Trump, and which
    real Republican would do that? There should be no such thing as the
    model ideological candidate.

    To quote the Apostle Paul in 1 Corinthians, one body has many parts,
    and rCLthe eye cannot say to the hand, rCyI donrCOt need you!rCO And the head
    cannot say to the feet, rCyI donrCOt need you!rCOrCY The parties need
    ideological diversity. Groupthink is dangerous, no matter where it is
    found.

    IrCOd like to end a rather bleak newsletter with a dash of optimism. As
    the Gallup poll indicates, present trends cannot continue forever. If
    the number of independents continues to grow, and the share of
    partisans continues to shrink, the present system will grow more
    unstable. A diminishing percentage of Americans will not be able to
    hold the same amount of power.

    One-party rule can look imposing, but it is often fragile. It wasnrCOt
    that long ago, for example, when there was a different kind of
    one-party rule in the South, and then it shifted from Democratic to
    Republican. It wasnrCOt that long ago that California was a swing state, >>> or that Iowa was briefly part of the Democratic PartyrCOs blue wall.

    It might take time rCo far too much time rCo but when the single party
    fails, eventually the dormant second party revives, the logjam breaks
    and the system resets. But until then our one-party politics is
    undermining our two-party system, and our competition is reduced to
    determining which broken party will prevail.

    dissolve the senate, it was just a needless check on actual democracy

    reform the executive presidency into an executive council (5 reps from 3
    parties: 2,2,1) requiring consensus decision making where each can vote
    pass/neg/block - majority to pass, no blocking votes

    Shared power has been tried a number of times since the romans tried
    it first. So far it has not worked well.

    working pretty well in switzerland


    The problem that govt's mostly fail to address is what to do with
    people with towering ambition? Lock them up and allow them no access
    to media?
    --
    hi, i'm nick!
    let's end war EfOa

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  • From dart200@user7160@newsgrouper.org.invalid to alt.buddha.short.fat.guy on Wed Jun 24 21:40:10 2026
    From Newsgroup: alt.buddha.short.fat.guy

    On 6/24/26 9:17 PM, Noah Sombrero wrote:
    On Wed, 24 Jun 2026 20:39:28 -0700, dart200 <user7160@newsgrouper.org.invalid> wrote:

    On 6/24/26 7:51 PM, Noah Sombrero wrote:

    NY Times,

    June 24, 2026

    Why does our seemingly competitive two-party system produce so much
    stagnation and corruption?

    because a duopoly isn't competition,

    and because it's actually one club of people: oligarchs


    By David French

    ThererCOs a line from a speech that I keep thinking about.

    I wrote about it last month. Shane Massey, the Republican majority
    leader in the South Carolina Senate, spoke against a Trump-inspired
    plan to redistrict the state.

    rCLI will tell my Republican friends: Republicans are stronger when the
    Democrat Party is vibrant and viable,rCY Massey said. rCLWe are.
    Competition makes you better, yrCOall.rCY

    IrCOm reminded of a conversation I had many years ago with a friend who
    was then a senior executive at McDonaldrCOs (my favorite restaurant).

    (imagine ur favorite restaurant being mcdonalds ?)

    When we spoke it was obvious that McDonaldrCOs had decisively won the
    burger wars, and that its chief competitors, Burger King and WendyrCOs,
    were no longer threats to dislodge Ronald McDonald from the Throne of
    Fries.

    I asked him if there was a sense of satisfaction at the company, and
    his response surprised me. rCLI have mixed feelings,rCY he said. rCLWe were >>> a great company when the competition was intense.rCY

    The innovation and energy required to stave off a challenger was
    invigorating and perhaps most crucially, it staved off stagnation.

    So why isnrCOt this happening in American politics? Our nation has two
    parties of near-identical size and power, at least in theory. Control
    of the national government routinely flips back and forth, and even
    when one side wins full control its margins of victory are extremely
    narrow.

    And yet, instead of creating innovation and energy, our political
    competition seems to be yielding stagnation and corruption. I donrCOt
    believe that stagnation and corruption exist equally on both sides of
    the aisle, but itrCOs hard to find anyone who believes the Democratic
    Party is healthy and vibrant, especially after two losses to Donald
    Trump.

    Even if the two parties arenrCOt equally corrupt, they do share a
    different common characteristic: TheyrCOre equally repulsive to the
    public.

    A Gallup poll in January found that 45 percent of Americans identify
    as independents, a record since Gallup began regular polling in 1988.
    Equal percentages of adults, 27 percent, identify as Republicans or as
    Democrats.

    This doesnrCOt mean that neither side can win. When the public is
    disgusted with the current leadership, it has but one other
    alternative. Many voters are voting against incumbents more than
    theyrCOre endorsing their challengers.

    If the competition between McDonaldrCOs and Burger King gave us tastier
    fries, somehow the competition between Republicans and Democrats is
    giving us rotten politics.

    But what if we donrCOt actually have a competitive two-party system?
    What if our nation actually has two one-party systems, instead? And if
    the United States has two one-party systems, then that means that each
    way they turn voters are confronted with the arrogance, stagnation and
    corruption that almost always disfigures single-party rule.

    The best illustration of this reality is found in state government
    rCLtrifectas.rCY ThatrCOs the term for a state where one party controls the >>> governorrCOs mansion and both houses of the state legislature. As of
    this month, there are 23 Republican trifectas and 16 Democratic ones.
    That leaves 11 states with divided governments.

    Republicans may govern more states, but Democratic states tend to be
    more populous. As a result, a roughly equal percentage of Americans
    live under total red or blue rule. As of January, 39.1 percent of
    Americans lived in blue trifecta states, and 41.5 percent lived in red
    trifecta states, which means that less than 20 percent of the
    population lives in a divided state.

    Combine trifecta state control with aggressive partisan gerrymanders,
    and you have exactly the situation in Congress that my colleague Tom
    Edsall described this week: rCLAn overwhelming majority of House members >>> run in districts that are safe in the general election, where the only
    threat to an incumbent is from a more ideologically extreme challenger
    in the primary.rCY

    Another way of putting it is that the other side is so weak in so many
    states and congressional districts that politicians can build entire
    careers without having to appeal to voters on the other side of the
    aisle.

    For example, even in a year of remarkable public discontent, in which
    the House may well change hands, the vast majority of members of
    Congress are completely safe. The Cook Political Report lists 186
    districts as solid Republican and 182 districts as solid Democrat.
    There are only 18 tossup races. If you add in the 20 races that merely
    lean in one direction or the other, that gives you a grand total of 38
    competitive races in a 435-member House of Representatives.

    As a result, one-party politicians are often born in the partiesrCO
    bases and inept at reaching anyone even a few inches to their
    ideological right or left. In fact, the very effort to reach out to
    the opposition is usually interpreted as weakness, a misguided
    compromise against an uncompromising foe.

    The art of compromise vanishes before our eyes. After all, generations
    of politicians now come from the roughly 80 percent of the country
    where compromise is almost always unnecessary. Compromises are
    internal only, as the party negotiates with itself. The opposition
    might as well not exist.

    The partisan majority in a single-party state will often radicalize.
    As IrCOve explained before, the law of group polarization suggests that
    when like-minded people deliberate, they tend to become more extreme.
    Red bubbles get redder, Blue bubbles get bluer.

    ItrCOs not just that the two sides separate ideologically. They also
    develop very different political cultures rCo to the extent that each
    side is completely convinced that the other side is just, well, weird.
    Our nation is full of radicalized people who donrCOt fully understand
    that theyrCOre radical because everyone they know agrees with everything >>> they say.

    IrCOve heard Republicans and Democrats use exactly the same rCLStar WarsrCY >>> reference to describe the other side. TheyrCOll say the other siderCOs
    convention, for example, is like the Mos Eisley Cantina, the bar in
    rCLStar WarsrCY filled with bizarre creatures from across the galaxy.

    Compounding the problem, the sheer size of the red and blue trifectas
    mean that they define the nature of the respective parties, not
    swing-state politicians rCo even though swing-state politicians are
    indispensable to party control. The single-party partisans tell us
    what it means to be a rCLrealrCY Republican or a rCLrealrCY Democrat and often
    despise the rare politicians from their own party who can win on
    hostile ground. TheyrCOre the squishes, after all.

    Politics is always vulnerable to corruption, but single-party rule can
    be a virtual petri dish for favoritism and graft. We all know that
    institutions tend to be terrible at policing themselves, and when one
    party possesses complete control, it is rarely as vigilant at
    punishing its own as it is at pummeling the other side.

    Even swing states arenrCOt immune from the maladies of one-party rule.
    The states themselves are often carved up into one-party enclaves.

    President Trump is perhaps the ultimate example of what one-party rule
    in a two-party nation can produce. While he governs for himself (as
    many one-party politicians do), herCOs also vicious and vengeful to the
    other side, and so long as he keeps attacking the hated Democratic
    foe, his party will gladly cover for his corruption and graft.

    But if the Democrats challenge Trump with the products of their own
    one-party rule, with a candidate who canrCOt even begin to speak the
    language of the swing voter, much less the language of the disaffected
    Republican, then werCOre setting ourselves up for yet another lurch back >>> to the competing extreme.

    There is no easy way for Americans to change this dynamic. But perhaps
    rCo just perhaps rCo we can start by turning to those politicians whorCOve >>> proven that theyrCOre culturally and politically bilingual. They can win >>> on hostile (or purple) ground. One can think of Andy Beshear, the
    governor of Kentucky, or Josh Shapiro, the governor of Pennsylvania.
    On the Republican side, I can still remember when Charlie Baker, as
    governor of Massachusetts, was by some counts the most popular
    governor in America. In 2022, he recorded a stunning 74 percent
    approval rating.

    All of these politicians, though, suffer from the same vulnerability.
    The partisan base can believe theyrCOre weak, that theyrCOre not real
    Democrats or Republicans, mere DINOs or RINOs. But a party shouldnrCOt
    be defined by its most zealous ideologues. Why would a progressive in
    Brooklyn be a more authentic representative of the Democratic Party
    than a moderate in Tennessee? The same analysis applies to
    Republicans. You are not more Republican the more guns you own or the
    more often you go to church rCo that makes you a type of Republican, but >>> not the ideal form.

    There are many, many Republicans, for example, who will rejoice if
    Susan Collins loses in Maine. She voted to convict Trump, and which
    real Republican would do that? There should be no such thing as the
    model ideological candidate.

    To quote the Apostle Paul in 1 Corinthians, one body has many parts,
    and rCLthe eye cannot say to the hand, rCyI donrCOt need you!rCO And the head
    cannot say to the feet, rCyI donrCOt need you!rCOrCY The parties need
    ideological diversity. Groupthink is dangerous, no matter where it is
    found.

    IrCOd like to end a rather bleak newsletter with a dash of optimism. As
    the Gallup poll indicates, present trends cannot continue forever. If
    the number of independents continues to grow, and the share of
    partisans continues to shrink, the present system will grow more
    unstable. A diminishing percentage of Americans will not be able to
    hold the same amount of power.

    One-party rule can look imposing, but it is often fragile. It wasnrCOt
    that long ago, for example, when there was a different kind of
    one-party rule in the South, and then it shifted from Democratic to
    Republican. It wasnrCOt that long ago that California was a swing state, >>> or that Iowa was briefly part of the Democratic PartyrCOs blue wall.

    It might take time rCo far too much time rCo but when the single party
    fails, eventually the dormant second party revives, the logjam breaks
    and the system resets. But until then our one-party politics is
    undermining our two-party system, and our competition is reduced to
    determining which broken party will prevail.

    dissolve the senate, it was just a needless check on actual democracy

    reform the executive presidency into an executive council (5 reps from 3
    parties: 2,2,1) requiring consensus decision making where each can vote
    pass/neg/block - majority to pass, no blocking votes

    Shared power has been tried a number of times since the romans tried
    it first. So far it has not worked well.

    i'm literally just recommending what is currently working out well in switzerland

    and there no division of territory here, they are not ruling and making decrees from different locations like the romans tried several times in
    their later stages. they deliberating as a council until consensus with
    each other is reached, and any one of them can block a policy entirely.


    The problem that govt's mostly fail to address is what to do with
    people with towering ambition? Lock them up and allow them no access
    to media?
    --
    hi, i'm nick!
    let's end war EfOa

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  • From Dude@punditster@gmail.com to alt.buddha.short.fat.guy,alt.messianic on Thu Jun 25 08:58:42 2026
    From Newsgroup: alt.buddha.short.fat.guy

    On 6/24/2026 8:39 PM, dart200 wrote:
    On 6/24/26 7:51 PM, Noah Sombrero wrote:

    NY Times,

    June 24, 2026

    Why does our seemingly competitive two-party system produce so much
    stagnation and corruption?

    because a duopoly isn't competition,

    A top-poster now, eh?

    and because it's actually one club of people: oligarchs

    Yes. I think that's what David French wrote, except he left out the word "oligarchs" - probably because he does not write biased opinions that
    confuse his readers. Oligarchs are in Russia - there's no parties - it"s
    an oligarchy.



    By David French

    ThererCOs a line from a speech that I keep thinking about.

    I wrote about it last month. Shane Massey, the Republican majority
    leader in the South Carolina Senate, spoke against a Trump-inspired
    plan to redistrict the state.

    rCLI will tell my Republican friends: Republicans are stronger when the
    Democrat Party is vibrant and viable,rCY Massey said. rCLWe are.
    Competition makes you better, yrCOall.rCY

    IrCOm reminded of a conversation I had many years ago with a friend who
    was then a senior executive at McDonaldrCOs (my favorite restaurant).

    (imagine ur favorite restaurant being mcdonalds Efnu)

    When we spoke it was obvious that McDonaldrCOs had decisively won the
    burger wars, and that its chief competitors, Burger King and WendyrCOs,
    were no longer threats to dislodge Ronald McDonald from the Throne of
    Fries.

    I asked him if there was a sense of satisfaction at the company, and
    his response surprised me. rCLI have mixed feelings,rCY he said. rCLWe were >> a great company when the competition was intense.rCY

    The innovation and energy required to stave off a challenger was
    invigorating and perhaps most crucially, it staved off stagnation.

    So why isnrCOt this happening in American politics? Our nation has two
    parties of near-identical size and power, at least in theory. Control
    of the national government routinely flips back and forth, and even
    when one side wins full control its margins of victory are extremely
    narrow.

    And yet, instead of creating innovation and energy, our political
    competition seems to be yielding stagnation and corruption. I donrCOt
    believe that stagnation and corruption exist equally on both sides of
    the aisle, but itrCOs hard to find anyone who believes the Democratic
    Party is healthy and vibrant, especially after two losses to Donald
    Trump.

    Even if the two parties arenrCOt equally corrupt, they do share a
    different common characteristic: TheyrCOre equally repulsive to the
    public.

    A Gallup poll in January found that 45 percent of Americans identify
    as independents, a record since Gallup began regular polling in 1988.
    Equal percentages of adults, 27 percent, identify as Republicans or as
    Democrats.

    This doesnrCOt mean that neither side can win. When the public is
    disgusted with the current leadership, it has but one other
    alternative. Many voters are voting against incumbents more than
    theyrCOre endorsing their challengers.

    If the competition between McDonaldrCOs and Burger King gave us tastier
    fries, somehow the competition between Republicans and Democrats is
    giving us rotten politics.

    But what if we donrCOt actually have a competitive two-party system?
    What if our nation actually has two one-party systems, instead? And if
    the United States has two one-party systems, then that means that each
    way they turn voters are confronted with the arrogance, stagnation and
    corruption that almost always disfigures single-party rule.

    The best illustration of this reality is found in state government
    rCLtrifectas.rCY ThatrCOs the term for a state where one party controls the >> governorrCOs mansion and both houses of the state legislature. As of
    this month, there are 23 Republican trifectas and 16 Democratic ones.
    That leaves 11 states with divided governments.

    Republicans may govern more states, but Democratic states tend to be
    more populous. As a result, a roughly equal percentage of Americans
    live under total red or blue rule. As of January, 39.1 percent of
    Americans lived in blue trifecta states, and 41.5 percent lived in red
    trifecta states, which means that less than 20 percent of the
    population lives in a divided state.

    Combine trifecta state control with aggressive partisan gerrymanders,
    and you have exactly the situation in Congress that my colleague Tom
    Edsall described this week: rCLAn overwhelming majority of House members
    run in districts that are safe in the general election, where the only
    threat to an incumbent is from a more ideologically extreme challenger
    in the primary.rCY

    Another way of putting it is that the other side is so weak in so many
    states and congressional districts that politicians can build entire
    careers without having to appeal to voters on the other side of the
    aisle.

    For example, even in a year of remarkable public discontent, in which
    the House may well change hands, the vast majority of members of
    Congress are completely safe. The Cook Political Report lists 186
    districts as solid Republican and 182 districts as solid Democrat.
    There are only 18 tossup races. If you add in the 20 races that merely
    lean in one direction or the other, that gives you a grand total of 38
    competitive races in a 435-member House of Representatives.

    As a result, one-party politicians are often born in the partiesrCO
    bases and inept at reaching anyone even a few inches to their
    ideological right or left. In fact, the very effort to reach out to
    the opposition is usually interpreted as weakness, a misguided
    compromise against an uncompromising foe.

    The art of compromise vanishes before our eyes. After all, generations
    of politicians now come from the roughly 80 percent of the country
    where compromise is almost always unnecessary. Compromises are
    internal only, as the party negotiates with itself. The opposition
    might as well not exist.

    The partisan majority in a single-party state will often radicalize.
    As IrCOve explained before, the law of group polarization suggests that
    when like-minded people deliberate, they tend to become more extreme.
    Red bubbles get redder, Blue bubbles get bluer.

    ItrCOs not just that the two sides separate ideologically. They also
    develop very different political cultures rCo to the extent that each
    side is completely convinced that the other side is just, well, weird.
    Our nation is full of radicalized people who donrCOt fully understand
    that theyrCOre radical because everyone they know agrees with everything
    they say.

    IrCOve heard Republicans and Democrats use exactly the same rCLStar WarsrCY >> reference to describe the other side. TheyrCOll say the other siderCOs
    convention, for example, is like the Mos Eisley Cantina, the bar in
    rCLStar WarsrCY filled with bizarre creatures from across the galaxy.

    Compounding the problem, the sheer size of the red and blue trifectas
    mean that they define the nature of the respective parties, not
    swing-state politicians rCo even though swing-state politicians are
    indispensable to party control. The single-party partisans tell us
    what it means to be a rCLrealrCY Republican or a rCLrealrCY Democrat and often
    despise the rare politicians from their own party who can win on
    hostile ground. TheyrCOre the squishes, after all.

    Politics is always vulnerable to corruption, but single-party rule can
    be a virtual petri dish for favoritism and graft. We all know that
    institutions tend to be terrible at policing themselves, and when one
    party possesses complete control, it is rarely as vigilant at
    punishing its own as it is at pummeling the other side.

    Even swing states arenrCOt immune from the maladies of one-party rule.
    The states themselves are often carved up into one-party enclaves.

    President Trump is perhaps the ultimate example of what one-party rule
    in a two-party nation can produce. While he governs for himself (as
    many one-party politicians do), herCOs also vicious and vengeful to the
    other side, and so long as he keeps attacking the hated Democratic
    foe, his party will gladly cover for his corruption and graft.

    But if the Democrats challenge Trump with the products of their own
    one-party rule, with a candidate who canrCOt even begin to speak the
    language of the swing voter, much less the language of the disaffected
    Republican, then werCOre setting ourselves up for yet another lurch back
    to the competing extreme.

    There is no easy way for Americans to change this dynamic. But perhaps
    rCo just perhaps rCo we can start by turning to those politicians whorCOve >> proven that theyrCOre culturally and politically bilingual. They can win
    on hostile (or purple) ground. One can think of Andy Beshear, the
    governor of Kentucky, or Josh Shapiro, the governor of Pennsylvania.
    On the Republican side, I can still remember when Charlie Baker, as
    governor of Massachusetts, was by some counts the most popular
    governor in America. In 2022, he recorded a stunning 74 percent
    approval rating.

    All of these politicians, though, suffer from the same vulnerability.
    The partisan base can believe theyrCOre weak, that theyrCOre not real
    Democrats or Republicans, mere DINOs or RINOs. But a party shouldnrCOt
    be defined by its most zealous ideologues. Why would a progressive in
    Brooklyn be a more authentic representative of the Democratic Party
    than a moderate in Tennessee? The same analysis applies to
    Republicans. You are not more Republican the more guns you own or the
    more often you go to church rCo that makes you a type of Republican, but
    not the ideal form.

    There are many, many Republicans, for example, who will rejoice if
    Susan Collins loses in Maine. She voted to convict Trump, and which
    real Republican would do that? There should be no such thing as the
    model ideological candidate.

    To quote the Apostle Paul in 1 Corinthians, one body has many parts,
    and rCLthe eye cannot say to the hand, rCyI donrCOt need you!rCO And the head
    cannot say to the feet, rCyI donrCOt need you!rCOrCY The parties need
    ideological diversity. Groupthink is dangerous, no matter where it is
    found.

    IrCOd like to end a rather bleak newsletter with a dash of optimism. As
    the Gallup poll indicates, present trends cannot continue forever. If
    the number of independents continues to grow, and the share of
    partisans continues to shrink, the present system will grow more
    unstable. A diminishing percentage of Americans will not be able to
    hold the same amount of power.

    One-party rule can look imposing, but it is often fragile. It wasnrCOt
    that long ago, for example, when there was a different kind of
    one-party rule in the South, and then it shifted from Democratic to
    Republican. It wasnrCOt that long ago that California was a swing state,
    or that Iowa was briefly part of the Democratic PartyrCOs blue wall.

    It might take time rCo far too much time rCo but when the single party
    fails, eventually the dormant second party revives, the logjam breaks
    and the system resets. But until then our one-party politics is
    undermining our two-party system, and our competition is reduced to
    determining which broken party will prevail.

    dissolve the senate, it was just a needless check on actual democracy

    reform the executive presidency into an executive council (5 reps from 3 parties: 2,2,1) requiring consensus decision making where each can vote pass/neg/block - majority to pass, no blocking votes


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  • From Dude@punditster@gmail.com to alt.buddha.short.fat.guy on Thu Jun 25 09:04:08 2026
    From Newsgroup: alt.buddha.short.fat.guy

    On 6/24/2026 9:17 PM, Noah Sombrero wrote:
    On Wed, 24 Jun 2026 20:39:28 -0700, dart200 <user7160@newsgrouper.org.invalid> wrote:

    On 6/24/26 7:51 PM, Noah Sombrero wrote:

    NY Times,

    June 24, 2026

    Why does our seemingly competitive two-party system produce so much
    stagnation and corruption?

    because a duopoly isn't competition,

    and because it's actually one club of people: oligarchs


    By David French

    ThererCOs a line from a speech that I keep thinking about.

    I wrote about it last month. Shane Massey, the Republican majority
    leader in the South Carolina Senate, spoke against a Trump-inspired
    plan to redistrict the state.

    rCLI will tell my Republican friends: Republicans are stronger when the
    Democrat Party is vibrant and viable,rCY Massey said. rCLWe are.
    Competition makes you better, yrCOall.rCY

    IrCOm reminded of a conversation I had many years ago with a friend who
    was then a senior executive at McDonaldrCOs (my favorite restaurant).

    (imagine ur favorite restaurant being mcdonalds ?)

    When we spoke it was obvious that McDonaldrCOs had decisively won the
    burger wars, and that its chief competitors, Burger King and WendyrCOs,
    were no longer threats to dislodge Ronald McDonald from the Throne of
    Fries.

    I asked him if there was a sense of satisfaction at the company, and
    his response surprised me. rCLI have mixed feelings,rCY he said. rCLWe were >>> a great company when the competition was intense.rCY

    The innovation and energy required to stave off a challenger was
    invigorating and perhaps most crucially, it staved off stagnation.

    So why isnrCOt this happening in American politics? Our nation has two
    parties of near-identical size and power, at least in theory. Control
    of the national government routinely flips back and forth, and even
    when one side wins full control its margins of victory are extremely
    narrow.

    And yet, instead of creating innovation and energy, our political
    competition seems to be yielding stagnation and corruption. I donrCOt
    believe that stagnation and corruption exist equally on both sides of
    the aisle, but itrCOs hard to find anyone who believes the Democratic
    Party is healthy and vibrant, especially after two losses to Donald
    Trump.

    Even if the two parties arenrCOt equally corrupt, they do share a
    different common characteristic: TheyrCOre equally repulsive to the
    public.

    A Gallup poll in January found that 45 percent of Americans identify
    as independents, a record since Gallup began regular polling in 1988.
    Equal percentages of adults, 27 percent, identify as Republicans or as
    Democrats.

    This doesnrCOt mean that neither side can win. When the public is
    disgusted with the current leadership, it has but one other
    alternative. Many voters are voting against incumbents more than
    theyrCOre endorsing their challengers.

    If the competition between McDonaldrCOs and Burger King gave us tastier
    fries, somehow the competition between Republicans and Democrats is
    giving us rotten politics.

    But what if we donrCOt actually have a competitive two-party system?
    What if our nation actually has two one-party systems, instead? And if
    the United States has two one-party systems, then that means that each
    way they turn voters are confronted with the arrogance, stagnation and
    corruption that almost always disfigures single-party rule.

    The best illustration of this reality is found in state government
    rCLtrifectas.rCY ThatrCOs the term for a state where one party controls the >>> governorrCOs mansion and both houses of the state legislature. As of
    this month, there are 23 Republican trifectas and 16 Democratic ones.
    That leaves 11 states with divided governments.

    Republicans may govern more states, but Democratic states tend to be
    more populous. As a result, a roughly equal percentage of Americans
    live under total red or blue rule. As of January, 39.1 percent of
    Americans lived in blue trifecta states, and 41.5 percent lived in red
    trifecta states, which means that less than 20 percent of the
    population lives in a divided state.

    Combine trifecta state control with aggressive partisan gerrymanders,
    and you have exactly the situation in Congress that my colleague Tom
    Edsall described this week: rCLAn overwhelming majority of House members >>> run in districts that are safe in the general election, where the only
    threat to an incumbent is from a more ideologically extreme challenger
    in the primary.rCY

    Another way of putting it is that the other side is so weak in so many
    states and congressional districts that politicians can build entire
    careers without having to appeal to voters on the other side of the
    aisle.

    For example, even in a year of remarkable public discontent, in which
    the House may well change hands, the vast majority of members of
    Congress are completely safe. The Cook Political Report lists 186
    districts as solid Republican and 182 districts as solid Democrat.
    There are only 18 tossup races. If you add in the 20 races that merely
    lean in one direction or the other, that gives you a grand total of 38
    competitive races in a 435-member House of Representatives.

    As a result, one-party politicians are often born in the partiesrCO
    bases and inept at reaching anyone even a few inches to their
    ideological right or left. In fact, the very effort to reach out to
    the opposition is usually interpreted as weakness, a misguided
    compromise against an uncompromising foe.

    The art of compromise vanishes before our eyes. After all, generations
    of politicians now come from the roughly 80 percent of the country
    where compromise is almost always unnecessary. Compromises are
    internal only, as the party negotiates with itself. The opposition
    might as well not exist.

    The partisan majority in a single-party state will often radicalize.
    As IrCOve explained before, the law of group polarization suggests that
    when like-minded people deliberate, they tend to become more extreme.
    Red bubbles get redder, Blue bubbles get bluer.

    ItrCOs not just that the two sides separate ideologically. They also
    develop very different political cultures rCo to the extent that each
    side is completely convinced that the other side is just, well, weird.
    Our nation is full of radicalized people who donrCOt fully understand
    that theyrCOre radical because everyone they know agrees with everything >>> they say.

    IrCOve heard Republicans and Democrats use exactly the same rCLStar WarsrCY >>> reference to describe the other side. TheyrCOll say the other siderCOs
    convention, for example, is like the Mos Eisley Cantina, the bar in
    rCLStar WarsrCY filled with bizarre creatures from across the galaxy.

    Compounding the problem, the sheer size of the red and blue trifectas
    mean that they define the nature of the respective parties, not
    swing-state politicians rCo even though swing-state politicians are
    indispensable to party control. The single-party partisans tell us
    what it means to be a rCLrealrCY Republican or a rCLrealrCY Democrat and often
    despise the rare politicians from their own party who can win on
    hostile ground. TheyrCOre the squishes, after all.

    Politics is always vulnerable to corruption, but single-party rule can
    be a virtual petri dish for favoritism and graft. We all know that
    institutions tend to be terrible at policing themselves, and when one
    party possesses complete control, it is rarely as vigilant at
    punishing its own as it is at pummeling the other side.

    Even swing states arenrCOt immune from the maladies of one-party rule.
    The states themselves are often carved up into one-party enclaves.

    President Trump is perhaps the ultimate example of what one-party rule
    in a two-party nation can produce. While he governs for himself (as
    many one-party politicians do), herCOs also vicious and vengeful to the
    other side, and so long as he keeps attacking the hated Democratic
    foe, his party will gladly cover for his corruption and graft.

    But if the Democrats challenge Trump with the products of their own
    one-party rule, with a candidate who canrCOt even begin to speak the
    language of the swing voter, much less the language of the disaffected
    Republican, then werCOre setting ourselves up for yet another lurch back >>> to the competing extreme.

    There is no easy way for Americans to change this dynamic. But perhaps
    rCo just perhaps rCo we can start by turning to those politicians whorCOve >>> proven that theyrCOre culturally and politically bilingual. They can win >>> on hostile (or purple) ground. One can think of Andy Beshear, the
    governor of Kentucky, or Josh Shapiro, the governor of Pennsylvania.
    On the Republican side, I can still remember when Charlie Baker, as
    governor of Massachusetts, was by some counts the most popular
    governor in America. In 2022, he recorded a stunning 74 percent
    approval rating.

    All of these politicians, though, suffer from the same vulnerability.
    The partisan base can believe theyrCOre weak, that theyrCOre not real
    Democrats or Republicans, mere DINOs or RINOs. But a party shouldnrCOt
    be defined by its most zealous ideologues. Why would a progressive in
    Brooklyn be a more authentic representative of the Democratic Party
    than a moderate in Tennessee? The same analysis applies to
    Republicans. You are not more Republican the more guns you own or the
    more often you go to church rCo that makes you a type of Republican, but >>> not the ideal form.

    There are many, many Republicans, for example, who will rejoice if
    Susan Collins loses in Maine. She voted to convict Trump, and which
    real Republican would do that? There should be no such thing as the
    model ideological candidate.

    To quote the Apostle Paul in 1 Corinthians, one body has many parts,
    and rCLthe eye cannot say to the hand, rCyI donrCOt need you!rCO And the head
    cannot say to the feet, rCyI donrCOt need you!rCOrCY The parties need
    ideological diversity. Groupthink is dangerous, no matter where it is
    found.

    IrCOd like to end a rather bleak newsletter with a dash of optimism. As
    the Gallup poll indicates, present trends cannot continue forever. If
    the number of independents continues to grow, and the share of
    partisans continues to shrink, the present system will grow more
    unstable. A diminishing percentage of Americans will not be able to
    hold the same amount of power.

    One-party rule can look imposing, but it is often fragile. It wasnrCOt
    that long ago, for example, when there was a different kind of
    one-party rule in the South, and then it shifted from Democratic to
    Republican. It wasnrCOt that long ago that California was a swing state, >>> or that Iowa was briefly part of the Democratic PartyrCOs blue wall.

    It might take time rCo far too much time rCo but when the single party
    fails, eventually the dormant second party revives, the logjam breaks
    and the system resets. But until then our one-party politics is
    undermining our two-party system, and our competition is reduced to
    determining which broken party will prevail.

    dissolve the senate, it was just a needless check on actual democracy

    reform the executive presidency into an executive council (5 reps from 3
    parties: 2,2,1) requiring consensus decision making where each can vote
    pass/neg/block - majority to pass, no blocking votes

    Shared power has been tried a number of times since the romans tried
    it first. So far it has not worked well.

    The problem that govt's mostly fail to address is what to do with
    people with towering ambition?

    What would you do with someone like Elon Musk? YMMV.

    Lock them up and allow them no access to media?

    That's one solution. Another solution you might like is assassination.
    Look what they did to Julius Caesar! So far there have been two or three attempts.
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  • From Dude@punditster@gmail.com to alt.buddha.short.fat.guy on Thu Jun 25 09:21:18 2026
    From Newsgroup: alt.buddha.short.fat.guy

    On 6/24/2026 9:26 PM, dart200 wrote:
    On 6/24/26 9:17 PM, Noah Sombrero wrote:
    On Wed, 24 Jun 2026 20:39:28 -0700, dart200
    <user7160@newsgrouper.org.invalid> wrote:

    On 6/24/26 7:51 PM, Noah Sombrero wrote:

    NY Times,

    June 24, 2026

    Why does our seemingly competitive two-party system produce so much
    stagnation and corruption?

    because a duopoly isn't competition,

    and because it's actually one club of people: oligarchs


    By David French

    ThererCOs a line from a speech that I keep thinking about.

    I wrote about it last month. Shane Massey, the Republican majority
    leader in the South Carolina Senate, spoke against a Trump-inspired
    plan to redistrict the state.

    rCLI will tell my Republican friends: Republicans are stronger when the >>>> Democrat Party is vibrant and viable,rCY Massey said. rCLWe are.
    Competition makes you better, yrCOall.rCY

    IrCOm reminded of a conversation I had many years ago with a friend who >>>> was then a senior executive at McDonaldrCOs (my favorite restaurant).

    (imagine ur favorite restaurant being mcdonalds ?)

    When we spoke it was obvious that McDonaldrCOs had decisively won the
    burger wars, and that its chief competitors, Burger King and WendyrCOs, >>>> were no longer threats to dislodge Ronald McDonald from the Throne of
    Fries.

    I asked him if there was a sense of satisfaction at the company, and
    his response surprised me. rCLI have mixed feelings,rCY he said. rCLWe were
    a great company when the competition was intense.rCY

    The innovation and energy required to stave off a challenger was
    invigorating and perhaps most crucially, it staved off stagnation.

    So why isnrCOt this happening in American politics? Our nation has two >>>> parties of near-identical size and power, at least in theory. Control
    of the national government routinely flips back and forth, and even
    when one side wins full control its margins of victory are extremely
    narrow.

    And yet, instead of creating innovation and energy, our political
    competition seems to be yielding stagnation and corruption. I donrCOt
    believe that stagnation and corruption exist equally on both sides of
    the aisle, but itrCOs hard to find anyone who believes the Democratic
    Party is healthy and vibrant, especially after two losses to Donald
    Trump.

    Even if the two parties arenrCOt equally corrupt, they do share a
    different common characteristic: TheyrCOre equally repulsive to the
    public.

    A Gallup poll in January found that 45 percent of Americans identify
    as independents, a record since Gallup began regular polling in 1988.
    Equal percentages of adults, 27 percent, identify as Republicans or as >>>> Democrats.

    This doesnrCOt mean that neither side can win. When the public is
    disgusted with the current leadership, it has but one other
    alternative. Many voters are voting against incumbents more than
    theyrCOre endorsing their challengers.

    If the competition between McDonaldrCOs and Burger King gave us tastier >>>> fries, somehow the competition between Republicans and Democrats is
    giving us rotten politics.

    But what if we donrCOt actually have a competitive two-party system?
    What if our nation actually has two one-party systems, instead? And if >>>> the United States has two one-party systems, then that means that each >>>> way they turn voters are confronted with the arrogance, stagnation and >>>> corruption that almost always disfigures single-party rule.

    The best illustration of this reality is found in state government
    rCLtrifectas.rCY ThatrCOs the term for a state where one party controls the
    governorrCOs mansion and both houses of the state legislature. As of
    this month, there are 23 Republican trifectas and 16 Democratic ones.
    That leaves 11 states with divided governments.

    Republicans may govern more states, but Democratic states tend to be
    more populous. As a result, a roughly equal percentage of Americans
    live under total red or blue rule. As of January, 39.1 percent of
    Americans lived in blue trifecta states, and 41.5 percent lived in red >>>> trifecta states, which means that less than 20 percent of the
    population lives in a divided state.

    Combine trifecta state control with aggressive partisan gerrymanders,
    and you have exactly the situation in Congress that my colleague Tom
    Edsall described this week: rCLAn overwhelming majority of House members >>>> run in districts that are safe in the general election, where the only >>>> threat to an incumbent is from a more ideologically extreme challenger >>>> in the primary.rCY

    Another way of putting it is that the other side is so weak in so many >>>> states and congressional districts that politicians can build entire
    careers without having to appeal to voters on the other side of the
    aisle.

    For example, even in a year of remarkable public discontent, in which
    the House may well change hands, the vast majority of members of
    Congress are completely safe. The Cook Political Report lists 186
    districts as solid Republican and 182 districts as solid Democrat.
    There are only 18 tossup races. If you add in the 20 races that merely >>>> lean in one direction or the other, that gives you a grand total of 38 >>>> competitive races in a 435-member House of Representatives.

    As a result, one-party politicians are often born in the partiesrCO
    bases and inept at reaching anyone even a few inches to their
    ideological right or left. In fact, the very effort to reach out to
    the opposition is usually interpreted as weakness, a misguided
    compromise against an uncompromising foe.

    The art of compromise vanishes before our eyes. After all, generations >>>> of politicians now come from the roughly 80 percent of the country
    where compromise is almost always unnecessary. Compromises are
    internal only, as the party negotiates with itself. The opposition
    might as well not exist.

    The partisan majority in a single-party state will often radicalize.
    As IrCOve explained before, the law of group polarization suggests that >>>> when like-minded people deliberate, they tend to become more extreme.
    Red bubbles get redder, Blue bubbles get bluer.

    ItrCOs not just that the two sides separate ideologically. They also
    develop very different political cultures rCo to the extent that each
    side is completely convinced that the other side is just, well, weird. >>>> Our nation is full of radicalized people who donrCOt fully understand
    that theyrCOre radical because everyone they know agrees with everything >>>> they say.

    IrCOve heard Republicans and Democrats use exactly the same rCLStar WarsrCY
    reference to describe the other side. TheyrCOll say the other siderCOs >>>> convention, for example, is like the Mos Eisley Cantina, the bar in
    rCLStar WarsrCY filled with bizarre creatures from across the galaxy.

    Compounding the problem, the sheer size of the red and blue trifectas
    mean that they define the nature of the respective parties, not
    swing-state politicians rCo even though swing-state politicians are
    indispensable to party control. The single-party partisans tell us
    what it means to be a rCLrealrCY Republican or a rCLrealrCY Democrat and often
    despise the rare politicians from their own party who can win on
    hostile ground. TheyrCOre the squishes, after all.

    Politics is always vulnerable to corruption, but single-party rule can >>>> be a virtual petri dish for favoritism and graft. We all know that
    institutions tend to be terrible at policing themselves, and when one
    party possesses complete control, it is rarely as vigilant at
    punishing its own as it is at pummeling the other side.

    Even swing states arenrCOt immune from the maladies of one-party rule. >>>> The states themselves are often carved up into one-party enclaves.

    President Trump is perhaps the ultimate example of what one-party rule >>>> in a two-party nation can produce. While he governs for himself (as
    many one-party politicians do), herCOs also vicious and vengeful to the >>>> other side, and so long as he keeps attacking the hated Democratic
    foe, his party will gladly cover for his corruption and graft.

    But if the Democrats challenge Trump with the products of their own
    one-party rule, with a candidate who canrCOt even begin to speak the
    language of the swing voter, much less the language of the disaffected >>>> Republican, then werCOre setting ourselves up for yet another lurch back >>>> to the competing extreme.

    There is no easy way for Americans to change this dynamic. But perhaps >>>> rCo just perhaps rCo we can start by turning to those politicians whorCOve >>>> proven that theyrCOre culturally and politically bilingual. They can win >>>> on hostile (or purple) ground. One can think of Andy Beshear, the
    governor of Kentucky, or Josh Shapiro, the governor of Pennsylvania.
    On the Republican side, I can still remember when Charlie Baker, as
    governor of Massachusetts, was by some counts the most popular
    governor in America. In 2022, he recorded a stunning 74 percent
    approval rating.

    All of these politicians, though, suffer from the same vulnerability.
    The partisan base can believe theyrCOre weak, that theyrCOre not real
    Democrats or Republicans, mere DINOs or RINOs. But a party shouldnrCOt >>>> be defined by its most zealous ideologues. Why would a progressive in
    Brooklyn be a more authentic representative of the Democratic Party
    than a moderate in Tennessee? The same analysis applies to
    Republicans. You are not more Republican the more guns you own or the
    more often you go to church rCo that makes you a type of Republican, but >>>> not the ideal form.

    There are many, many Republicans, for example, who will rejoice if
    Susan Collins loses in Maine. She voted to convict Trump, and which
    real Republican would do that? There should be no such thing as the
    model ideological candidate.

    To quote the Apostle Paul in 1 Corinthians, one body has many parts,
    and rCLthe eye cannot say to the hand, rCyI donrCOt need you!rCO And the head
    cannot say to the feet, rCyI donrCOt need you!rCOrCY The parties need
    ideological diversity. Groupthink is dangerous, no matter where it is
    found.

    IrCOd like to end a rather bleak newsletter with a dash of optimism. As >>>> the Gallup poll indicates, present trends cannot continue forever. If
    the number of independents continues to grow, and the share of
    partisans continues to shrink, the present system will grow more
    unstable. A diminishing percentage of Americans will not be able to
    hold the same amount of power.

    One-party rule can look imposing, but it is often fragile. It wasnrCOt >>>> that long ago, for example, when there was a different kind of
    one-party rule in the South, and then it shifted from Democratic to
    Republican. It wasnrCOt that long ago that California was a swing state, >>>> or that Iowa was briefly part of the Democratic PartyrCOs blue wall.

    It might take time rCo far too much time rCo but when the single party >>>> fails, eventually the dormant second party revives, the logjam breaks
    and the system resets. But until then our one-party politics is
    undermining our two-party system, and our competition is reduced to
    determining which broken party will prevail.

    dissolve the senate, it was just a needless check on actual democracy

    reform the executive presidency into an executive council (5 reps from 3 >>> parties: 2,2,1) requiring consensus decision making where each can vote
    pass/neg/block - majority to pass, no blocking votes

    Shared power has been tried a number of times since the romans tried
    it first.-a So far it has not worked well.

    working pretty well in switzerland

    Let's try to make sense out of this, since Nick insists on interjecting
    his one-liners in a top-post about oligarchs.

    Then, reading back down to David French, he says nothing about oligarchs running the country. So, in comes Noah changing the topic to the Roman
    Empire. Then, here comes Nick back, posting in a reply at the bottom
    about Switzerland.

    So, what we have here is a total vindication of what Wilson has been
    saying here for years!

    Apparently Switzerland is a Libertarian free market mix of social and
    cultural conservatism with strong economic and political liberalism.

    Swiss conservatism is generally cautious and traditional (resisting
    rapid changes), while its liberalism favors free-market economics,
    robust civil liberties, and the world's most extensive system of direct democracy." - Wikipedia

    The problem that govt's mostly fail to address is what to do with
    people with towering ambition?-a Lock them up and allow them no access
    to media?


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  • From Noah Sombrero@fedora@fea.st to alt.buddha.short.fat.guy on Thu Jun 25 12:25:35 2026
    From Newsgroup: alt.buddha.short.fat.guy

    On Wed, 24 Jun 2026 21:26:41 -0700, dart200
    <user7160@newsgrouper.org.invalid> wrote:

    On 6/24/26 9:17 PM, Noah Sombrero wrote:
    On Wed, 24 Jun 2026 20:39:28 -0700, dart200
    <user7160@newsgrouper.org.invalid> wrote:

    On 6/24/26 7:51 PM, Noah Sombrero wrote:

    NY Times,

    June 24, 2026

    Why does our seemingly competitive two-party system produce so much
    stagnation and corruption?

    because a duopoly isn't competition,

    and because it's actually one club of people: oligarchs


    By David French

    ThereAs a line from a speech that I keep thinking about.

    I wrote about it last month. Shane Massey, the Republican majority
    leader in the South Carolina Senate, spoke against a Trump-inspired
    plan to redistrict the state.

    oI will tell my Republican friends: Republicans are stronger when the
    Democrat Party is vibrant and viable,o Massey said. oWe are.
    Competition makes you better, yAall.o

    IAm reminded of a conversation I had many years ago with a friend who
    was then a senior executive at McDonaldAs (my favorite restaurant).

    (imagine ur favorite restaurant being mcdonalds ?)

    When we spoke it was obvious that McDonaldAs had decisively won the
    burger wars, and that its chief competitors, Burger King and WendyAs,
    were no longer threats to dislodge Ronald McDonald from the Throne of
    Fries.

    I asked him if there was a sense of satisfaction at the company, and
    his response surprised me. oI have mixed feelings,o he said. oWe were
    a great company when the competition was intense.o

    The innovation and energy required to stave off a challenger was
    invigorating and perhaps most crucially, it staved off stagnation.

    So why isnAt this happening in American politics? Our nation has two
    parties of near-identical size and power, at least in theory. Control
    of the national government routinely flips back and forth, and even
    when one side wins full control its margins of victory are extremely
    narrow.

    And yet, instead of creating innovation and energy, our political
    competition seems to be yielding stagnation and corruption. I donAt
    believe that stagnation and corruption exist equally on both sides of
    the aisle, but itAs hard to find anyone who believes the Democratic
    Party is healthy and vibrant, especially after two losses to Donald
    Trump.

    Even if the two parties arenAt equally corrupt, they do share a
    different common characteristic: TheyAre equally repulsive to the
    public.

    A Gallup poll in January found that 45 percent of Americans identify
    as independents, a record since Gallup began regular polling in 1988.
    Equal percentages of adults, 27 percent, identify as Republicans or as >>>> Democrats.

    This doesnAt mean that neither side can win. When the public is
    disgusted with the current leadership, it has but one other
    alternative. Many voters are voting against incumbents more than
    theyAre endorsing their challengers.

    If the competition between McDonaldAs and Burger King gave us tastier
    fries, somehow the competition between Republicans and Democrats is
    giving us rotten politics.

    But what if we donAt actually have a competitive two-party system?
    What if our nation actually has two one-party systems, instead? And if >>>> the United States has two one-party systems, then that means that each >>>> way they turn voters are confronted with the arrogance, stagnation and >>>> corruption that almost always disfigures single-party rule.

    The best illustration of this reality is found in state government
    otrifectas.o ThatAs the term for a state where one party controls the
    governorAs mansion and both houses of the state legislature. As of
    this month, there are 23 Republican trifectas and 16 Democratic ones.
    That leaves 11 states with divided governments.

    Republicans may govern more states, but Democratic states tend to be
    more populous. As a result, a roughly equal percentage of Americans
    live under total red or blue rule. As of January, 39.1 percent of
    Americans lived in blue trifecta states, and 41.5 percent lived in red >>>> trifecta states, which means that less than 20 percent of the
    population lives in a divided state.

    Combine trifecta state control with aggressive partisan gerrymanders,
    and you have exactly the situation in Congress that my colleague Tom
    Edsall described this week: oAn overwhelming majority of House members >>>> run in districts that are safe in the general election, where the only >>>> threat to an incumbent is from a more ideologically extreme challenger >>>> in the primary.o

    Another way of putting it is that the other side is so weak in so many >>>> states and congressional districts that politicians can build entire
    careers without having to appeal to voters on the other side of the
    aisle.

    For example, even in a year of remarkable public discontent, in which
    the House may well change hands, the vast majority of members of
    Congress are completely safe. The Cook Political Report lists 186
    districts as solid Republican and 182 districts as solid Democrat.
    There are only 18 tossup races. If you add in the 20 races that merely >>>> lean in one direction or the other, that gives you a grand total of 38 >>>> competitive races in a 435-member House of Representatives.

    As a result, one-party politicians are often born in the partiesA
    bases and inept at reaching anyone even a few inches to their
    ideological right or left. In fact, the very effort to reach out to
    the opposition is usually interpreted as weakness, a misguided
    compromise against an uncompromising foe.

    The art of compromise vanishes before our eyes. After all, generations >>>> of politicians now come from the roughly 80 percent of the country
    where compromise is almost always unnecessary. Compromises are
    internal only, as the party negotiates with itself. The opposition
    might as well not exist.

    The partisan majority in a single-party state will often radicalize.
    As IAve explained before, the law of group polarization suggests that
    when like-minded people deliberate, they tend to become more extreme.
    Red bubbles get redder, Blue bubbles get bluer.

    ItAs not just that the two sides separate ideologically. They also
    develop very different political cultures u to the extent that each
    side is completely convinced that the other side is just, well, weird. >>>> Our nation is full of radicalized people who donAt fully understand
    that theyAre radical because everyone they know agrees with everything >>>> they say.

    IAve heard Republicans and Democrats use exactly the same oStar Warso
    reference to describe the other side. TheyAll say the other sideAs
    convention, for example, is like the Mos Eisley Cantina, the bar in
    oStar Warso filled with bizarre creatures from across the galaxy.

    Compounding the problem, the sheer size of the red and blue trifectas
    mean that they define the nature of the respective parties, not
    swing-state politicians u even though swing-state politicians are
    indispensable to party control. The single-party partisans tell us
    what it means to be a orealo Republican or a orealo Democrat and often >>>> despise the rare politicians from their own party who can win on
    hostile ground. TheyAre the squishes, after all.

    Politics is always vulnerable to corruption, but single-party rule can >>>> be a virtual petri dish for favoritism and graft. We all know that
    institutions tend to be terrible at policing themselves, and when one
    party possesses complete control, it is rarely as vigilant at
    punishing its own as it is at pummeling the other side.

    Even swing states arenAt immune from the maladies of one-party rule.
    The states themselves are often carved up into one-party enclaves.

    President Trump is perhaps the ultimate example of what one-party rule >>>> in a two-party nation can produce. While he governs for himself (as
    many one-party politicians do), heAs also vicious and vengeful to the
    other side, and so long as he keeps attacking the hated Democratic
    foe, his party will gladly cover for his corruption and graft.

    But if the Democrats challenge Trump with the products of their own
    one-party rule, with a candidate who canAt even begin to speak the
    language of the swing voter, much less the language of the disaffected >>>> Republican, then weAre setting ourselves up for yet another lurch back >>>> to the competing extreme.

    There is no easy way for Americans to change this dynamic. But perhaps >>>> u just perhaps u we can start by turning to those politicians whoAve
    proven that theyAre culturally and politically bilingual. They can win >>>> on hostile (or purple) ground. One can think of Andy Beshear, the
    governor of Kentucky, or Josh Shapiro, the governor of Pennsylvania.
    On the Republican side, I can still remember when Charlie Baker, as
    governor of Massachusetts, was by some counts the most popular
    governor in America. In 2022, he recorded a stunning 74 percent
    approval rating.

    All of these politicians, though, suffer from the same vulnerability.
    The partisan base can believe theyAre weak, that theyAre not real
    Democrats or Republicans, mere DINOs or RINOs. But a party shouldnAt
    be defined by its most zealous ideologues. Why would a progressive in
    Brooklyn be a more authentic representative of the Democratic Party
    than a moderate in Tennessee? The same analysis applies to
    Republicans. You are not more Republican the more guns you own or the
    more often you go to church u that makes you a type of Republican, but >>>> not the ideal form.

    There are many, many Republicans, for example, who will rejoice if
    Susan Collins loses in Maine. She voted to convict Trump, and which
    real Republican would do that? There should be no such thing as the
    model ideological candidate.

    To quote the Apostle Paul in 1 Corinthians, one body has many parts,
    and othe eye cannot say to the hand, aI donAt need you!A And the head
    cannot say to the feet, aI donAt need you!Ao The parties need
    ideological diversity. Groupthink is dangerous, no matter where it is
    found.

    IAd like to end a rather bleak newsletter with a dash of optimism. As
    the Gallup poll indicates, present trends cannot continue forever. If
    the number of independents continues to grow, and the share of
    partisans continues to shrink, the present system will grow more
    unstable. A diminishing percentage of Americans will not be able to
    hold the same amount of power.

    One-party rule can look imposing, but it is often fragile. It wasnAt
    that long ago, for example, when there was a different kind of
    one-party rule in the South, and then it shifted from Democratic to
    Republican. It wasnAt that long ago that California was a swing state, >>>> or that Iowa was briefly part of the Democratic PartyAs blue wall.

    It might take time u far too much time u but when the single party
    fails, eventually the dormant second party revives, the logjam breaks
    and the system resets. But until then our one-party politics is
    undermining our two-party system, and our competition is reduced to
    determining which broken party will prevail.

    dissolve the senate, it was just a needless check on actual democracy

    reform the executive presidency into an executive council (5 reps from 3 >>> parties: 2,2,1) requiring consensus decision making where each can vote
    pass/neg/block - majority to pass, no blocking votes

    Shared power has been tried a number of times since the romans tried
    it first. So far it has not worked well.

    working pretty well in switzerland

    Ok, what is the secret?


    The problem that govt's mostly fail to address is what to do with
    people with towering ambition? Lock them up and allow them no access
    to media?
    --
    Noah Sombrero mustachioed villain
    Don't get political with me young man
    or I'll tie you to a railroad track and
    <<<talk>>> to <<<YOOooooo>>>
    Who dares to talk to El Sombrero?
    dares: Ned
    does not dare: Julian shrinks in horror and warns others away

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  • From Noah Sombrero@fedora@fea.st to alt.buddha.short.fat.guy on Thu Jun 25 12:29:18 2026
    From Newsgroup: alt.buddha.short.fat.guy

    On Thu, 25 Jun 2026 09:21:18 -0700, Dude <punditster@gmail.com> wrote:

    On 6/24/2026 9:26 PM, dart200 wrote:
    On 6/24/26 9:17 PM, Noah Sombrero wrote:
    On Wed, 24 Jun 2026 20:39:28 -0700, dart200
    <user7160@newsgrouper.org.invalid> wrote:

    On 6/24/26 7:51 PM, Noah Sombrero wrote:

    NY Times,

    June 24, 2026

    Why does our seemingly competitive two-party system produce so much
    stagnation and corruption?

    because a duopoly isn't competition,

    and because it's actually one club of people: oligarchs


    By David French

    ThereAs a line from a speech that I keep thinking about.

    I wrote about it last month. Shane Massey, the Republican majority
    leader in the South Carolina Senate, spoke against a Trump-inspired
    plan to redistrict the state.

    oI will tell my Republican friends: Republicans are stronger when the >>>>> Democrat Party is vibrant and viable,o Massey said. oWe are.
    Competition makes you better, yAall.o

    IAm reminded of a conversation I had many years ago with a friend who >>>>> was then a senior executive at McDonaldAs (my favorite restaurant).

    (imagine ur favorite restaurant being mcdonalds ?)

    When we spoke it was obvious that McDonaldAs had decisively won the
    burger wars, and that its chief competitors, Burger King and WendyAs, >>>>> were no longer threats to dislodge Ronald McDonald from the Throne of >>>>> Fries.

    I asked him if there was a sense of satisfaction at the company, and >>>>> his response surprised me. oI have mixed feelings,o he said. oWe were >>>>> a great company when the competition was intense.o

    The innovation and energy required to stave off a challenger was
    invigorating and perhaps most crucially, it staved off stagnation.

    So why isnAt this happening in American politics? Our nation has two >>>>> parties of near-identical size and power, at least in theory. Control >>>>> of the national government routinely flips back and forth, and even
    when one side wins full control its margins of victory are extremely >>>>> narrow.

    And yet, instead of creating innovation and energy, our political
    competition seems to be yielding stagnation and corruption. I donAt
    believe that stagnation and corruption exist equally on both sides of >>>>> the aisle, but itAs hard to find anyone who believes the Democratic
    Party is healthy and vibrant, especially after two losses to Donald
    Trump.

    Even if the two parties arenAt equally corrupt, they do share a
    different common characteristic: TheyAre equally repulsive to the
    public.

    A Gallup poll in January found that 45 percent of Americans identify >>>>> as independents, a record since Gallup began regular polling in 1988. >>>>> Equal percentages of adults, 27 percent, identify as Republicans or as >>>>> Democrats.

    This doesnAt mean that neither side can win. When the public is
    disgusted with the current leadership, it has but one other
    alternative. Many voters are voting against incumbents more than
    theyAre endorsing their challengers.

    If the competition between McDonaldAs and Burger King gave us tastier >>>>> fries, somehow the competition between Republicans and Democrats is
    giving us rotten politics.

    But what if we donAt actually have a competitive two-party system?
    What if our nation actually has two one-party systems, instead? And if >>>>> the United States has two one-party systems, then that means that each >>>>> way they turn voters are confronted with the arrogance, stagnation and >>>>> corruption that almost always disfigures single-party rule.

    The best illustration of this reality is found in state government
    otrifectas.o ThatAs the term for a state where one party controls the >>>>> governorAs mansion and both houses of the state legislature. As of
    this month, there are 23 Republican trifectas and 16 Democratic ones. >>>>> That leaves 11 states with divided governments.

    Republicans may govern more states, but Democratic states tend to be >>>>> more populous. As a result, a roughly equal percentage of Americans
    live under total red or blue rule. As of January, 39.1 percent of
    Americans lived in blue trifecta states, and 41.5 percent lived in red >>>>> trifecta states, which means that less than 20 percent of the
    population lives in a divided state.

    Combine trifecta state control with aggressive partisan gerrymanders, >>>>> and you have exactly the situation in Congress that my colleague Tom >>>>> Edsall described this week: oAn overwhelming majority of House members >>>>> run in districts that are safe in the general election, where the only >>>>> threat to an incumbent is from a more ideologically extreme challenger >>>>> in the primary.o

    Another way of putting it is that the other side is so weak in so many >>>>> states and congressional districts that politicians can build entire >>>>> careers without having to appeal to voters on the other side of the
    aisle.

    For example, even in a year of remarkable public discontent, in which >>>>> the House may well change hands, the vast majority of members of
    Congress are completely safe. The Cook Political Report lists 186
    districts as solid Republican and 182 districts as solid Democrat.
    There are only 18 tossup races. If you add in the 20 races that merely >>>>> lean in one direction or the other, that gives you a grand total of 38 >>>>> competitive races in a 435-member House of Representatives.

    As a result, one-party politicians are often born in the partiesA
    bases and inept at reaching anyone even a few inches to their
    ideological right or left. In fact, the very effort to reach out to
    the opposition is usually interpreted as weakness, a misguided
    compromise against an uncompromising foe.

    The art of compromise vanishes before our eyes. After all, generations >>>>> of politicians now come from the roughly 80 percent of the country
    where compromise is almost always unnecessary. Compromises are
    internal only, as the party negotiates with itself. The opposition
    might as well not exist.

    The partisan majority in a single-party state will often radicalize. >>>>> As IAve explained before, the law of group polarization suggests that >>>>> when like-minded people deliberate, they tend to become more extreme. >>>>> Red bubbles get redder, Blue bubbles get bluer.

    ItAs not just that the two sides separate ideologically. They also
    develop very different political cultures u to the extent that each
    side is completely convinced that the other side is just, well, weird. >>>>> Our nation is full of radicalized people who donAt fully understand
    that theyAre radical because everyone they know agrees with everything >>>>> they say.

    IAve heard Republicans and Democrats use exactly the same oStar Warso >>>>> reference to describe the other side. TheyAll say the other sideAs
    convention, for example, is like the Mos Eisley Cantina, the bar in
    oStar Warso filled with bizarre creatures from across the galaxy.

    Compounding the problem, the sheer size of the red and blue trifectas >>>>> mean that they define the nature of the respective parties, not
    swing-state politicians u even though swing-state politicians are
    indispensable to party control. The single-party partisans tell us
    what it means to be a orealo Republican or a orealo Democrat and often >>>>> despise the rare politicians from their own party who can win on
    hostile ground. TheyAre the squishes, after all.

    Politics is always vulnerable to corruption, but single-party rule can >>>>> be a virtual petri dish for favoritism and graft. We all know that
    institutions tend to be terrible at policing themselves, and when one >>>>> party possesses complete control, it is rarely as vigilant at
    punishing its own as it is at pummeling the other side.

    Even swing states arenAt immune from the maladies of one-party rule. >>>>> The states themselves are often carved up into one-party enclaves.

    President Trump is perhaps the ultimate example of what one-party rule >>>>> in a two-party nation can produce. While he governs for himself (as
    many one-party politicians do), heAs also vicious and vengeful to the >>>>> other side, and so long as he keeps attacking the hated Democratic
    foe, his party will gladly cover for his corruption and graft.

    But if the Democrats challenge Trump with the products of their own
    one-party rule, with a candidate who canAt even begin to speak the
    language of the swing voter, much less the language of the disaffected >>>>> Republican, then weAre setting ourselves up for yet another lurch back >>>>> to the competing extreme.

    There is no easy way for Americans to change this dynamic. But perhaps >>>>> u just perhaps u we can start by turning to those politicians whoAve >>>>> proven that theyAre culturally and politically bilingual. They can win >>>>> on hostile (or purple) ground. One can think of Andy Beshear, the
    governor of Kentucky, or Josh Shapiro, the governor of Pennsylvania. >>>>> On the Republican side, I can still remember when Charlie Baker, as
    governor of Massachusetts, was by some counts the most popular
    governor in America. In 2022, he recorded a stunning 74 percent
    approval rating.

    All of these politicians, though, suffer from the same vulnerability. >>>>> The partisan base can believe theyAre weak, that theyAre not real
    Democrats or Republicans, mere DINOs or RINOs. But a party shouldnAt >>>>> be defined by its most zealous ideologues. Why would a progressive in >>>>> Brooklyn be a more authentic representative of the Democratic Party
    than a moderate in Tennessee? The same analysis applies to
    Republicans. You are not more Republican the more guns you own or the >>>>> more often you go to church u that makes you a type of Republican, but >>>>> not the ideal form.

    There are many, many Republicans, for example, who will rejoice if
    Susan Collins loses in Maine. She voted to convict Trump, and which
    real Republican would do that? There should be no such thing as the
    model ideological candidate.

    To quote the Apostle Paul in 1 Corinthians, one body has many parts, >>>>> and othe eye cannot say to the hand, aI donAt need you!A And the head >>>>> cannot say to the feet, aI donAt need you!Ao The parties need
    ideological diversity. Groupthink is dangerous, no matter where it is >>>>> found.

    IAd like to end a rather bleak newsletter with a dash of optimism. As >>>>> the Gallup poll indicates, present trends cannot continue forever. If >>>>> the number of independents continues to grow, and the share of
    partisans continues to shrink, the present system will grow more
    unstable. A diminishing percentage of Americans will not be able to
    hold the same amount of power.

    One-party rule can look imposing, but it is often fragile. It wasnAt >>>>> that long ago, for example, when there was a different kind of
    one-party rule in the South, and then it shifted from Democratic to
    Republican. It wasnAt that long ago that California was a swing state, >>>>> or that Iowa was briefly part of the Democratic PartyAs blue wall.

    It might take time u far too much time u but when the single party
    fails, eventually the dormant second party revives, the logjam breaks >>>>> and the system resets. But until then our one-party politics is
    undermining our two-party system, and our competition is reduced to
    determining which broken party will prevail.

    dissolve the senate, it was just a needless check on actual democracy

    reform the executive presidency into an executive council (5 reps from 3 >>>> parties: 2,2,1) requiring consensus decision making where each can vote >>>> pass/neg/block - majority to pass, no blocking votes

    Shared power has been tried a number of times since the romans tried
    it first.a So far it has not worked well.

    working pretty well in switzerland

    Let's try to make sense out of this, since Nick insists on interjecting
    his one-liners in a top-post about oligarchs.

    Then, reading back down to David French, he says nothing about oligarchs >running the country. So, in comes Noah changing the topic to the Roman >Empire. Then, here comes Nick back, posting in a reply at the bottom
    about Switzerland.

    So, what we have here is a total vindication of what Wilson has been
    saying here for years!

    That following a thought can require various diversions to reach an understanding?

    Apparently Switzerland is a Libertarian free market mix of social and >cultural conservatism with strong economic and political liberalism.

    Swiss conservatism is generally cautious and traditional (resisting
    rapid changes), while its liberalism favors free-market economics,
    robust civil liberties, and the world's most extensive system of direct >democracy." - Wikipedia

    That must make you feel good. But it does not explain dart's
    assertion.


    The problem that govt's mostly fail to address is what to do with
    people with towering ambition?a Lock them up and allow them no access
    to media?

    --
    Noah Sombrero mustachioed villain
    Don't get political with me young man
    or I'll tie you to a railroad track and
    <<<talk>>> to <<<YOOooooo>>>
    Who dares to talk to El Sombrero?
    dares: Ned
    does not dare: Julian shrinks in horror and warns others away

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  • From Noah Sombrero@fedora@fea.st to alt.buddha.short.fat.guy on Thu Jun 25 12:35:52 2026
    From Newsgroup: alt.buddha.short.fat.guy

    On Wed, 24 Jun 2026 21:40:10 -0700, dart200
    <user7160@newsgrouper.org.invalid> wrote:

    On 6/24/26 9:17 PM, Noah Sombrero wrote:
    On Wed, 24 Jun 2026 20:39:28 -0700, dart200
    <user7160@newsgrouper.org.invalid> wrote:

    On 6/24/26 7:51 PM, Noah Sombrero wrote:

    NY Times,

    June 24, 2026

    Why does our seemingly competitive two-party system produce so much
    stagnation and corruption?

    because a duopoly isn't competition,

    and because it's actually one club of people: oligarchs


    By David French

    ThereAs a line from a speech that I keep thinking about.

    I wrote about it last month. Shane Massey, the Republican majority
    leader in the South Carolina Senate, spoke against a Trump-inspired
    plan to redistrict the state.

    oI will tell my Republican friends: Republicans are stronger when the
    Democrat Party is vibrant and viable,o Massey said. oWe are.
    Competition makes you better, yAall.o

    IAm reminded of a conversation I had many years ago with a friend who
    was then a senior executive at McDonaldAs (my favorite restaurant).

    (imagine ur favorite restaurant being mcdonalds ?)

    When we spoke it was obvious that McDonaldAs had decisively won the
    burger wars, and that its chief competitors, Burger King and WendyAs,
    were no longer threats to dislodge Ronald McDonald from the Throne of
    Fries.

    I asked him if there was a sense of satisfaction at the company, and
    his response surprised me. oI have mixed feelings,o he said. oWe were
    a great company when the competition was intense.o

    The innovation and energy required to stave off a challenger was
    invigorating and perhaps most crucially, it staved off stagnation.

    So why isnAt this happening in American politics? Our nation has two
    parties of near-identical size and power, at least in theory. Control
    of the national government routinely flips back and forth, and even
    when one side wins full control its margins of victory are extremely
    narrow.

    And yet, instead of creating innovation and energy, our political
    competition seems to be yielding stagnation and corruption. I donAt
    believe that stagnation and corruption exist equally on both sides of
    the aisle, but itAs hard to find anyone who believes the Democratic
    Party is healthy and vibrant, especially after two losses to Donald
    Trump.

    Even if the two parties arenAt equally corrupt, they do share a
    different common characteristic: TheyAre equally repulsive to the
    public.

    A Gallup poll in January found that 45 percent of Americans identify
    as independents, a record since Gallup began regular polling in 1988.
    Equal percentages of adults, 27 percent, identify as Republicans or as >>>> Democrats.

    This doesnAt mean that neither side can win. When the public is
    disgusted with the current leadership, it has but one other
    alternative. Many voters are voting against incumbents more than
    theyAre endorsing their challengers.

    If the competition between McDonaldAs and Burger King gave us tastier
    fries, somehow the competition between Republicans and Democrats is
    giving us rotten politics.

    But what if we donAt actually have a competitive two-party system?
    What if our nation actually has two one-party systems, instead? And if >>>> the United States has two one-party systems, then that means that each >>>> way they turn voters are confronted with the arrogance, stagnation and >>>> corruption that almost always disfigures single-party rule.

    The best illustration of this reality is found in state government
    otrifectas.o ThatAs the term for a state where one party controls the
    governorAs mansion and both houses of the state legislature. As of
    this month, there are 23 Republican trifectas and 16 Democratic ones.
    That leaves 11 states with divided governments.

    Republicans may govern more states, but Democratic states tend to be
    more populous. As a result, a roughly equal percentage of Americans
    live under total red or blue rule. As of January, 39.1 percent of
    Americans lived in blue trifecta states, and 41.5 percent lived in red >>>> trifecta states, which means that less than 20 percent of the
    population lives in a divided state.

    Combine trifecta state control with aggressive partisan gerrymanders,
    and you have exactly the situation in Congress that my colleague Tom
    Edsall described this week: oAn overwhelming majority of House members >>>> run in districts that are safe in the general election, where the only >>>> threat to an incumbent is from a more ideologically extreme challenger >>>> in the primary.o

    Another way of putting it is that the other side is so weak in so many >>>> states and congressional districts that politicians can build entire
    careers without having to appeal to voters on the other side of the
    aisle.

    For example, even in a year of remarkable public discontent, in which
    the House may well change hands, the vast majority of members of
    Congress are completely safe. The Cook Political Report lists 186
    districts as solid Republican and 182 districts as solid Democrat.
    There are only 18 tossup races. If you add in the 20 races that merely >>>> lean in one direction or the other, that gives you a grand total of 38 >>>> competitive races in a 435-member House of Representatives.

    As a result, one-party politicians are often born in the partiesA
    bases and inept at reaching anyone even a few inches to their
    ideological right or left. In fact, the very effort to reach out to
    the opposition is usually interpreted as weakness, a misguided
    compromise against an uncompromising foe.

    The art of compromise vanishes before our eyes. After all, generations >>>> of politicians now come from the roughly 80 percent of the country
    where compromise is almost always unnecessary. Compromises are
    internal only, as the party negotiates with itself. The opposition
    might as well not exist.

    The partisan majority in a single-party state will often radicalize.
    As IAve explained before, the law of group polarization suggests that
    when like-minded people deliberate, they tend to become more extreme.
    Red bubbles get redder, Blue bubbles get bluer.

    ItAs not just that the two sides separate ideologically. They also
    develop very different political cultures u to the extent that each
    side is completely convinced that the other side is just, well, weird. >>>> Our nation is full of radicalized people who donAt fully understand
    that theyAre radical because everyone they know agrees with everything >>>> they say.

    IAve heard Republicans and Democrats use exactly the same oStar Warso
    reference to describe the other side. TheyAll say the other sideAs
    convention, for example, is like the Mos Eisley Cantina, the bar in
    oStar Warso filled with bizarre creatures from across the galaxy.

    Compounding the problem, the sheer size of the red and blue trifectas
    mean that they define the nature of the respective parties, not
    swing-state politicians u even though swing-state politicians are
    indispensable to party control. The single-party partisans tell us
    what it means to be a orealo Republican or a orealo Democrat and often >>>> despise the rare politicians from their own party who can win on
    hostile ground. TheyAre the squishes, after all.

    Politics is always vulnerable to corruption, but single-party rule can >>>> be a virtual petri dish for favoritism and graft. We all know that
    institutions tend to be terrible at policing themselves, and when one
    party possesses complete control, it is rarely as vigilant at
    punishing its own as it is at pummeling the other side.

    Even swing states arenAt immune from the maladies of one-party rule.
    The states themselves are often carved up into one-party enclaves.

    President Trump is perhaps the ultimate example of what one-party rule >>>> in a two-party nation can produce. While he governs for himself (as
    many one-party politicians do), heAs also vicious and vengeful to the
    other side, and so long as he keeps attacking the hated Democratic
    foe, his party will gladly cover for his corruption and graft.

    But if the Democrats challenge Trump with the products of their own
    one-party rule, with a candidate who canAt even begin to speak the
    language of the swing voter, much less the language of the disaffected >>>> Republican, then weAre setting ourselves up for yet another lurch back >>>> to the competing extreme.

    There is no easy way for Americans to change this dynamic. But perhaps >>>> u just perhaps u we can start by turning to those politicians whoAve
    proven that theyAre culturally and politically bilingual. They can win >>>> on hostile (or purple) ground. One can think of Andy Beshear, the
    governor of Kentucky, or Josh Shapiro, the governor of Pennsylvania.
    On the Republican side, I can still remember when Charlie Baker, as
    governor of Massachusetts, was by some counts the most popular
    governor in America. In 2022, he recorded a stunning 74 percent
    approval rating.

    All of these politicians, though, suffer from the same vulnerability.
    The partisan base can believe theyAre weak, that theyAre not real
    Democrats or Republicans, mere DINOs or RINOs. But a party shouldnAt
    be defined by its most zealous ideologues. Why would a progressive in
    Brooklyn be a more authentic representative of the Democratic Party
    than a moderate in Tennessee? The same analysis applies to
    Republicans. You are not more Republican the more guns you own or the
    more often you go to church u that makes you a type of Republican, but >>>> not the ideal form.

    There are many, many Republicans, for example, who will rejoice if
    Susan Collins loses in Maine. She voted to convict Trump, and which
    real Republican would do that? There should be no such thing as the
    model ideological candidate.

    To quote the Apostle Paul in 1 Corinthians, one body has many parts,
    and othe eye cannot say to the hand, aI donAt need you!A And the head
    cannot say to the feet, aI donAt need you!Ao The parties need
    ideological diversity. Groupthink is dangerous, no matter where it is
    found.

    IAd like to end a rather bleak newsletter with a dash of optimism. As
    the Gallup poll indicates, present trends cannot continue forever. If
    the number of independents continues to grow, and the share of
    partisans continues to shrink, the present system will grow more
    unstable. A diminishing percentage of Americans will not be able to
    hold the same amount of power.

    One-party rule can look imposing, but it is often fragile. It wasnAt
    that long ago, for example, when there was a different kind of
    one-party rule in the South, and then it shifted from Democratic to
    Republican. It wasnAt that long ago that California was a swing state, >>>> or that Iowa was briefly part of the Democratic PartyAs blue wall.

    It might take time u far too much time u but when the single party
    fails, eventually the dormant second party revives, the logjam breaks
    and the system resets. But until then our one-party politics is
    undermining our two-party system, and our competition is reduced to
    determining which broken party will prevail.

    dissolve the senate, it was just a needless check on actual democracy

    reform the executive presidency into an executive council (5 reps from 3 >>> parties: 2,2,1) requiring consensus decision making where each can vote
    pass/neg/block - majority to pass, no blocking votes

    Shared power has been tried a number of times since the romans tried
    it first. So far it has not worked well.

    i'm literally just recommending what is currently working out well in >switzerland

    and there no division of territory here, they are not ruling and making >decrees from different locations like the romans tried several times in >their later stages. they deliberating as a council until consensus with
    each other is reached, and any one of them can block a policy entirely.

    This is pertinent. Rome conquered more territory than it could
    reasonably administer. It also helps that switz is a small country.
    Small countries tend to enjoy greater social cohesion.

    So, rather than solving the towering ambition problem, they have
    avoided it by having leaders that lack that characteristic.

    Not a solution to the underlying issue. And for them, likely not a
    long term solution. Sure you might beat the odds and find 3 good guys
    once. What are the odds then, of doing that again next time?


    The problem that govt's mostly fail to address is what to do with
    people with towering ambition? Lock them up and allow them no access
    to media?
    --
    Noah Sombrero mustachioed villain
    Don't get political with me young man
    or I'll tie you to a railroad track and
    <<<talk>>> to <<<YOOooooo>>>
    Who dares to talk to El Sombrero?
    dares: Ned
    does not dare: Julian shrinks in horror and warns others away

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  • From Noah Sombrero@fedora@fea.st to alt.buddha.short.fat.guy on Thu Jun 25 12:41:06 2026
    From Newsgroup: alt.buddha.short.fat.guy

    On Thu, 25 Jun 2026 09:04:08 -0700, Dude <punditster@gmail.com> wrote:

    On 6/24/2026 9:17 PM, Noah Sombrero wrote:
    On Wed, 24 Jun 2026 20:39:28 -0700, dart200
    <user7160@newsgrouper.org.invalid> wrote:

    On 6/24/26 7:51 PM, Noah Sombrero wrote:

    NY Times,

    June 24, 2026

    Why does our seemingly competitive two-party system produce so much
    stagnation and corruption?

    because a duopoly isn't competition,

    and because it's actually one club of people: oligarchs


    By David French

    ThereAs a line from a speech that I keep thinking about.

    I wrote about it last month. Shane Massey, the Republican majority
    leader in the South Carolina Senate, spoke against a Trump-inspired
    plan to redistrict the state.

    oI will tell my Republican friends: Republicans are stronger when the
    Democrat Party is vibrant and viable,o Massey said. oWe are.
    Competition makes you better, yAall.o

    IAm reminded of a conversation I had many years ago with a friend who
    was then a senior executive at McDonaldAs (my favorite restaurant).

    (imagine ur favorite restaurant being mcdonalds ?)

    When we spoke it was obvious that McDonaldAs had decisively won the
    burger wars, and that its chief competitors, Burger King and WendyAs,
    were no longer threats to dislodge Ronald McDonald from the Throne of
    Fries.

    I asked him if there was a sense of satisfaction at the company, and
    his response surprised me. oI have mixed feelings,o he said. oWe were
    a great company when the competition was intense.o

    The innovation and energy required to stave off a challenger was
    invigorating and perhaps most crucially, it staved off stagnation.

    So why isnAt this happening in American politics? Our nation has two
    parties of near-identical size and power, at least in theory. Control
    of the national government routinely flips back and forth, and even
    when one side wins full control its margins of victory are extremely
    narrow.

    And yet, instead of creating innovation and energy, our political
    competition seems to be yielding stagnation and corruption. I donAt
    believe that stagnation and corruption exist equally on both sides of
    the aisle, but itAs hard to find anyone who believes the Democratic
    Party is healthy and vibrant, especially after two losses to Donald
    Trump.

    Even if the two parties arenAt equally corrupt, they do share a
    different common characteristic: TheyAre equally repulsive to the
    public.

    A Gallup poll in January found that 45 percent of Americans identify
    as independents, a record since Gallup began regular polling in 1988.
    Equal percentages of adults, 27 percent, identify as Republicans or as >>>> Democrats.

    This doesnAt mean that neither side can win. When the public is
    disgusted with the current leadership, it has but one other
    alternative. Many voters are voting against incumbents more than
    theyAre endorsing their challengers.

    If the competition between McDonaldAs and Burger King gave us tastier
    fries, somehow the competition between Republicans and Democrats is
    giving us rotten politics.

    But what if we donAt actually have a competitive two-party system?
    What if our nation actually has two one-party systems, instead? And if >>>> the United States has two one-party systems, then that means that each >>>> way they turn voters are confronted with the arrogance, stagnation and >>>> corruption that almost always disfigures single-party rule.

    The best illustration of this reality is found in state government
    otrifectas.o ThatAs the term for a state where one party controls the
    governorAs mansion and both houses of the state legislature. As of
    this month, there are 23 Republican trifectas and 16 Democratic ones.
    That leaves 11 states with divided governments.

    Republicans may govern more states, but Democratic states tend to be
    more populous. As a result, a roughly equal percentage of Americans
    live under total red or blue rule. As of January, 39.1 percent of
    Americans lived in blue trifecta states, and 41.5 percent lived in red >>>> trifecta states, which means that less than 20 percent of the
    population lives in a divided state.

    Combine trifecta state control with aggressive partisan gerrymanders,
    and you have exactly the situation in Congress that my colleague Tom
    Edsall described this week: oAn overwhelming majority of House members >>>> run in districts that are safe in the general election, where the only >>>> threat to an incumbent is from a more ideologically extreme challenger >>>> in the primary.o

    Another way of putting it is that the other side is so weak in so many >>>> states and congressional districts that politicians can build entire
    careers without having to appeal to voters on the other side of the
    aisle.

    For example, even in a year of remarkable public discontent, in which
    the House may well change hands, the vast majority of members of
    Congress are completely safe. The Cook Political Report lists 186
    districts as solid Republican and 182 districts as solid Democrat.
    There are only 18 tossup races. If you add in the 20 races that merely >>>> lean in one direction or the other, that gives you a grand total of 38 >>>> competitive races in a 435-member House of Representatives.

    As a result, one-party politicians are often born in the partiesA
    bases and inept at reaching anyone even a few inches to their
    ideological right or left. In fact, the very effort to reach out to
    the opposition is usually interpreted as weakness, a misguided
    compromise against an uncompromising foe.

    The art of compromise vanishes before our eyes. After all, generations >>>> of politicians now come from the roughly 80 percent of the country
    where compromise is almost always unnecessary. Compromises are
    internal only, as the party negotiates with itself. The opposition
    might as well not exist.

    The partisan majority in a single-party state will often radicalize.
    As IAve explained before, the law of group polarization suggests that
    when like-minded people deliberate, they tend to become more extreme.
    Red bubbles get redder, Blue bubbles get bluer.

    ItAs not just that the two sides separate ideologically. They also
    develop very different political cultures u to the extent that each
    side is completely convinced that the other side is just, well, weird. >>>> Our nation is full of radicalized people who donAt fully understand
    that theyAre radical because everyone they know agrees with everything >>>> they say.

    IAve heard Republicans and Democrats use exactly the same oStar Warso
    reference to describe the other side. TheyAll say the other sideAs
    convention, for example, is like the Mos Eisley Cantina, the bar in
    oStar Warso filled with bizarre creatures from across the galaxy.

    Compounding the problem, the sheer size of the red and blue trifectas
    mean that they define the nature of the respective parties, not
    swing-state politicians u even though swing-state politicians are
    indispensable to party control. The single-party partisans tell us
    what it means to be a orealo Republican or a orealo Democrat and often >>>> despise the rare politicians from their own party who can win on
    hostile ground. TheyAre the squishes, after all.

    Politics is always vulnerable to corruption, but single-party rule can >>>> be a virtual petri dish for favoritism and graft. We all know that
    institutions tend to be terrible at policing themselves, and when one
    party possesses complete control, it is rarely as vigilant at
    punishing its own as it is at pummeling the other side.

    Even swing states arenAt immune from the maladies of one-party rule.
    The states themselves are often carved up into one-party enclaves.

    President Trump is perhaps the ultimate example of what one-party rule >>>> in a two-party nation can produce. While he governs for himself (as
    many one-party politicians do), heAs also vicious and vengeful to the
    other side, and so long as he keeps attacking the hated Democratic
    foe, his party will gladly cover for his corruption and graft.

    But if the Democrats challenge Trump with the products of their own
    one-party rule, with a candidate who canAt even begin to speak the
    language of the swing voter, much less the language of the disaffected >>>> Republican, then weAre setting ourselves up for yet another lurch back >>>> to the competing extreme.

    There is no easy way for Americans to change this dynamic. But perhaps >>>> u just perhaps u we can start by turning to those politicians whoAve
    proven that theyAre culturally and politically bilingual. They can win >>>> on hostile (or purple) ground. One can think of Andy Beshear, the
    governor of Kentucky, or Josh Shapiro, the governor of Pennsylvania.
    On the Republican side, I can still remember when Charlie Baker, as
    governor of Massachusetts, was by some counts the most popular
    governor in America. In 2022, he recorded a stunning 74 percent
    approval rating.

    All of these politicians, though, suffer from the same vulnerability.
    The partisan base can believe theyAre weak, that theyAre not real
    Democrats or Republicans, mere DINOs or RINOs. But a party shouldnAt
    be defined by its most zealous ideologues. Why would a progressive in
    Brooklyn be a more authentic representative of the Democratic Party
    than a moderate in Tennessee? The same analysis applies to
    Republicans. You are not more Republican the more guns you own or the
    more often you go to church u that makes you a type of Republican, but >>>> not the ideal form.

    There are many, many Republicans, for example, who will rejoice if
    Susan Collins loses in Maine. She voted to convict Trump, and which
    real Republican would do that? There should be no such thing as the
    model ideological candidate.

    To quote the Apostle Paul in 1 Corinthians, one body has many parts,
    and othe eye cannot say to the hand, aI donAt need you!A And the head
    cannot say to the feet, aI donAt need you!Ao The parties need
    ideological diversity. Groupthink is dangerous, no matter where it is
    found.

    IAd like to end a rather bleak newsletter with a dash of optimism. As
    the Gallup poll indicates, present trends cannot continue forever. If
    the number of independents continues to grow, and the share of
    partisans continues to shrink, the present system will grow more
    unstable. A diminishing percentage of Americans will not be able to
    hold the same amount of power.

    One-party rule can look imposing, but it is often fragile. It wasnAt
    that long ago, for example, when there was a different kind of
    one-party rule in the South, and then it shifted from Democratic to
    Republican. It wasnAt that long ago that California was a swing state, >>>> or that Iowa was briefly part of the Democratic PartyAs blue wall.

    It might take time u far too much time u but when the single party
    fails, eventually the dormant second party revives, the logjam breaks
    and the system resets. But until then our one-party politics is
    undermining our two-party system, and our competition is reduced to
    determining which broken party will prevail.

    dissolve the senate, it was just a needless check on actual democracy

    reform the executive presidency into an executive council (5 reps from 3 >>> parties: 2,2,1) requiring consensus decision making where each can vote
    pass/neg/block - majority to pass, no blocking votes

    Shared power has been tried a number of times since the romans tried
    it first. So far it has not worked well.

    The problem that govt's mostly fail to address is what to do with
    people with towering ambition?

    What would you do with someone like Elon Musk? YMMV.

    So far, he has not tried to be pres. As long as he continues to play
    with his toys, I can be satisfied to remind people that investing in
    him is not a good strategy. Who cares if you don't listen?

    Lock them up and allow them no access to media?

    That's one solution. Another solution you might like is assassination. \

    I might like?

    Look what they did to Julius Caesar! So far there have been two or three >attempts.

    No, that is not a solution. Get rid of him. How long then till the
    next *enter here your preferred description of him* comes along.

    What do we actually to deal with towering ambition that solves the
    problem long term?
    --
    Noah Sombrero mustachioed villain
    Don't get political with me young man
    or I'll tie you to a railroad track and
    <<<talk>>> to <<<YOOooooo>>>
    Who dares to talk to El Sombrero?
    dares: Ned
    does not dare: Julian shrinks in horror and warns others away

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  • From Noah Sombrero@fedora@fea.st to alt.buddha.short.fat.guy on Thu Jun 25 12:42:42 2026
    From Newsgroup: alt.buddha.short.fat.guy

    On Thu, 25 Jun 2026 08:58:42 -0700, Dude <punditster@gmail.com> wrote:

    On 6/24/2026 8:39 PM, dart200 wrote:
    On 6/24/26 7:51 PM, Noah Sombrero wrote:

    NY Times,

    June 24, 2026

    Why does our seemingly competitive two-party system produce so much
    stagnation and corruption?

    because a duopoly isn't competition,

    A top-poster now, eh?

    and because it's actually one club of people: oligarchs

    Yes. I think that's what David French wrote, except he left out the word >"oligarchs" - probably because he does not write biased opinions that >confuse his readers. Oligarchs are in Russia - there's no parties - it"s
    an oligarchy.

    Very good point. You have actually forfeited any right to call that
    article propaganda. Are you ok with that?



    By David French

    ThereAs a line from a speech that I keep thinking about.

    I wrote about it last month. Shane Massey, the Republican majority
    leader in the South Carolina Senate, spoke against a Trump-inspired
    plan to redistrict the state.

    oI will tell my Republican friends: Republicans are stronger when the
    Democrat Party is vibrant and viable,o Massey said. oWe are.
    Competition makes you better, yAall.o

    IAm reminded of a conversation I had many years ago with a friend who
    was then a senior executive at McDonaldAs (my favorite restaurant).

    (imagine ur favorite restaurant being mcdonalds ?)

    When we spoke it was obvious that McDonaldAs had decisively won the
    burger wars, and that its chief competitors, Burger King and WendyAs,
    were no longer threats to dislodge Ronald McDonald from the Throne of
    Fries.

    I asked him if there was a sense of satisfaction at the company, and
    his response surprised me. oI have mixed feelings,o he said. oWe were
    a great company when the competition was intense.o

    The innovation and energy required to stave off a challenger was
    invigorating and perhaps most crucially, it staved off stagnation.

    So why isnAt this happening in American politics? Our nation has two
    parties of near-identical size and power, at least in theory. Control
    of the national government routinely flips back and forth, and even
    when one side wins full control its margins of victory are extremely
    narrow.

    And yet, instead of creating innovation and energy, our political
    competition seems to be yielding stagnation and corruption. I donAt
    believe that stagnation and corruption exist equally on both sides of
    the aisle, but itAs hard to find anyone who believes the Democratic
    Party is healthy and vibrant, especially after two losses to Donald
    Trump.

    Even if the two parties arenAt equally corrupt, they do share a
    different common characteristic: TheyAre equally repulsive to the
    public.

    A Gallup poll in January found that 45 percent of Americans identify
    as independents, a record since Gallup began regular polling in 1988.
    Equal percentages of adults, 27 percent, identify as Republicans or as
    Democrats.

    This doesnAt mean that neither side can win. When the public is
    disgusted with the current leadership, it has but one other
    alternative. Many voters are voting against incumbents more than
    theyAre endorsing their challengers.

    If the competition between McDonaldAs and Burger King gave us tastier
    fries, somehow the competition between Republicans and Democrats is
    giving us rotten politics.

    But what if we donAt actually have a competitive two-party system?
    What if our nation actually has two one-party systems, instead? And if
    the United States has two one-party systems, then that means that each
    way they turn voters are confronted with the arrogance, stagnation and
    corruption that almost always disfigures single-party rule.

    The best illustration of this reality is found in state government
    otrifectas.o ThatAs the term for a state where one party controls the
    governorAs mansion and both houses of the state legislature. As of
    this month, there are 23 Republican trifectas and 16 Democratic ones.
    That leaves 11 states with divided governments.

    Republicans may govern more states, but Democratic states tend to be
    more populous. As a result, a roughly equal percentage of Americans
    live under total red or blue rule. As of January, 39.1 percent of
    Americans lived in blue trifecta states, and 41.5 percent lived in red
    trifecta states, which means that less than 20 percent of the
    population lives in a divided state.

    Combine trifecta state control with aggressive partisan gerrymanders,
    and you have exactly the situation in Congress that my colleague Tom
    Edsall described this week: oAn overwhelming majority of House members
    run in districts that are safe in the general election, where the only
    threat to an incumbent is from a more ideologically extreme challenger
    in the primary.o

    Another way of putting it is that the other side is so weak in so many
    states and congressional districts that politicians can build entire
    careers without having to appeal to voters on the other side of the
    aisle.

    For example, even in a year of remarkable public discontent, in which
    the House may well change hands, the vast majority of members of
    Congress are completely safe. The Cook Political Report lists 186
    districts as solid Republican and 182 districts as solid Democrat.
    There are only 18 tossup races. If you add in the 20 races that merely
    lean in one direction or the other, that gives you a grand total of 38
    competitive races in a 435-member House of Representatives.

    As a result, one-party politicians are often born in the partiesA
    bases and inept at reaching anyone even a few inches to their
    ideological right or left. In fact, the very effort to reach out to
    the opposition is usually interpreted as weakness, a misguided
    compromise against an uncompromising foe.

    The art of compromise vanishes before our eyes. After all, generations
    of politicians now come from the roughly 80 percent of the country
    where compromise is almost always unnecessary. Compromises are
    internal only, as the party negotiates with itself. The opposition
    might as well not exist.

    The partisan majority in a single-party state will often radicalize.
    As IAve explained before, the law of group polarization suggests that
    when like-minded people deliberate, they tend to become more extreme.
    Red bubbles get redder, Blue bubbles get bluer.

    ItAs not just that the two sides separate ideologically. They also
    develop very different political cultures u to the extent that each
    side is completely convinced that the other side is just, well, weird.
    Our nation is full of radicalized people who donAt fully understand
    that theyAre radical because everyone they know agrees with everything
    they say.

    IAve heard Republicans and Democrats use exactly the same oStar Warso
    reference to describe the other side. TheyAll say the other sideAs
    convention, for example, is like the Mos Eisley Cantina, the bar in
    oStar Warso filled with bizarre creatures from across the galaxy.

    Compounding the problem, the sheer size of the red and blue trifectas
    mean that they define the nature of the respective parties, not
    swing-state politicians u even though swing-state politicians are
    indispensable to party control. The single-party partisans tell us
    what it means to be a orealo Republican or a orealo Democrat and often
    despise the rare politicians from their own party who can win on
    hostile ground. TheyAre the squishes, after all.

    Politics is always vulnerable to corruption, but single-party rule can
    be a virtual petri dish for favoritism and graft. We all know that
    institutions tend to be terrible at policing themselves, and when one
    party possesses complete control, it is rarely as vigilant at
    punishing its own as it is at pummeling the other side.

    Even swing states arenAt immune from the maladies of one-party rule.
    The states themselves are often carved up into one-party enclaves.

    President Trump is perhaps the ultimate example of what one-party rule
    in a two-party nation can produce. While he governs for himself (as
    many one-party politicians do), heAs also vicious and vengeful to the
    other side, and so long as he keeps attacking the hated Democratic
    foe, his party will gladly cover for his corruption and graft.

    But if the Democrats challenge Trump with the products of their own
    one-party rule, with a candidate who canAt even begin to speak the
    language of the swing voter, much less the language of the disaffected
    Republican, then weAre setting ourselves up for yet another lurch back
    to the competing extreme.

    There is no easy way for Americans to change this dynamic. But perhaps
    u just perhaps u we can start by turning to those politicians whoAve
    proven that theyAre culturally and politically bilingual. They can win
    on hostile (or purple) ground. One can think of Andy Beshear, the
    governor of Kentucky, or Josh Shapiro, the governor of Pennsylvania.
    On the Republican side, I can still remember when Charlie Baker, as
    governor of Massachusetts, was by some counts the most popular
    governor in America. In 2022, he recorded a stunning 74 percent
    approval rating.

    All of these politicians, though, suffer from the same vulnerability.
    The partisan base can believe theyAre weak, that theyAre not real
    Democrats or Republicans, mere DINOs or RINOs. But a party shouldnAt
    be defined by its most zealous ideologues. Why would a progressive in
    Brooklyn be a more authentic representative of the Democratic Party
    than a moderate in Tennessee? The same analysis applies to
    Republicans. You are not more Republican the more guns you own or the
    more often you go to church u that makes you a type of Republican, but
    not the ideal form.

    There are many, many Republicans, for example, who will rejoice if
    Susan Collins loses in Maine. She voted to convict Trump, and which
    real Republican would do that? There should be no such thing as the
    model ideological candidate.

    To quote the Apostle Paul in 1 Corinthians, one body has many parts,
    and othe eye cannot say to the hand, aI donAt need you!A And the head
    cannot say to the feet, aI donAt need you!Ao The parties need
    ideological diversity. Groupthink is dangerous, no matter where it is
    found.

    IAd like to end a rather bleak newsletter with a dash of optimism. As
    the Gallup poll indicates, present trends cannot continue forever. If
    the number of independents continues to grow, and the share of
    partisans continues to shrink, the present system will grow more
    unstable. A diminishing percentage of Americans will not be able to
    hold the same amount of power.

    One-party rule can look imposing, but it is often fragile. It wasnAt
    that long ago, for example, when there was a different kind of
    one-party rule in the South, and then it shifted from Democratic to
    Republican. It wasnAt that long ago that California was a swing state,
    or that Iowa was briefly part of the Democratic PartyAs blue wall.

    It might take time u far too much time u but when the single party
    fails, eventually the dormant second party revives, the logjam breaks
    and the system resets. But until then our one-party politics is
    undermining our two-party system, and our competition is reduced to
    determining which broken party will prevail.

    dissolve the senate, it was just a needless check on actual democracy

    reform the executive presidency into an executive council (5 reps from 3
    parties: 2,2,1) requiring consensus decision making where each can vote
    pass/neg/block - majority to pass, no blocking votes

    --
    Noah Sombrero mustachioed villain
    Don't get political with me young man
    or I'll tie you to a railroad track and
    <<<talk>>> to <<<YOOooooo>>>
    Who dares to talk to El Sombrero?
    dares: Ned
    does not dare: Julian shrinks in horror and warns others away

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  • From dart200@user7160@newsgrouper.org.invalid to alt.buddha.short.fat.guy,alt.messianic on Thu Jun 25 15:44:04 2026
    From Newsgroup: alt.buddha.short.fat.guy

    On 6/25/26 9:35 AM, Noah Sombrero wrote:
    On Wed, 24 Jun 2026 21:40:10 -0700, dart200 <user7160@newsgrouper.org.invalid> wrote:

    On 6/24/26 9:17 PM, Noah Sombrero wrote:
    On Wed, 24 Jun 2026 20:39:28 -0700, dart200
    <user7160@newsgrouper.org.invalid> wrote:

    On 6/24/26 7:51 PM, Noah Sombrero wrote:

    NY Times,

    June 24, 2026

    Why does our seemingly competitive two-party system produce so much
    stagnation and corruption?

    because a duopoly isn't competition,

    and because it's actually one club of people: oligarchs


    By David French

    ThererCOs a line from a speech that I keep thinking about.

    I wrote about it last month. Shane Massey, the Republican majority
    leader in the South Carolina Senate, spoke against a Trump-inspired
    plan to redistrict the state.

    rCLI will tell my Republican friends: Republicans are stronger when the >>>>> Democrat Party is vibrant and viable,rCY Massey said. rCLWe are.
    Competition makes you better, yrCOall.rCY

    IrCOm reminded of a conversation I had many years ago with a friend who >>>>> was then a senior executive at McDonaldrCOs (my favorite restaurant). >>>>
    (imagine ur favorite restaurant being mcdonalds ?)

    When we spoke it was obvious that McDonaldrCOs had decisively won the >>>>> burger wars, and that its chief competitors, Burger King and WendyrCOs, >>>>> were no longer threats to dislodge Ronald McDonald from the Throne of >>>>> Fries.

    I asked him if there was a sense of satisfaction at the company, and >>>>> his response surprised me. rCLI have mixed feelings,rCY he said. rCLWe were
    a great company when the competition was intense.rCY

    The innovation and energy required to stave off a challenger was
    invigorating and perhaps most crucially, it staved off stagnation.

    So why isnrCOt this happening in American politics? Our nation has two >>>>> parties of near-identical size and power, at least in theory. Control >>>>> of the national government routinely flips back and forth, and even
    when one side wins full control its margins of victory are extremely >>>>> narrow.

    And yet, instead of creating innovation and energy, our political
    competition seems to be yielding stagnation and corruption. I donrCOt >>>>> believe that stagnation and corruption exist equally on both sides of >>>>> the aisle, but itrCOs hard to find anyone who believes the Democratic >>>>> Party is healthy and vibrant, especially after two losses to Donald
    Trump.

    Even if the two parties arenrCOt equally corrupt, they do share a
    different common characteristic: TheyrCOre equally repulsive to the
    public.

    A Gallup poll in January found that 45 percent of Americans identify >>>>> as independents, a record since Gallup began regular polling in 1988. >>>>> Equal percentages of adults, 27 percent, identify as Republicans or as >>>>> Democrats.

    This doesnrCOt mean that neither side can win. When the public is
    disgusted with the current leadership, it has but one other
    alternative. Many voters are voting against incumbents more than
    theyrCOre endorsing their challengers.

    If the competition between McDonaldrCOs and Burger King gave us tastier >>>>> fries, somehow the competition between Republicans and Democrats is
    giving us rotten politics.

    But what if we donrCOt actually have a competitive two-party system? >>>>> What if our nation actually has two one-party systems, instead? And if >>>>> the United States has two one-party systems, then that means that each >>>>> way they turn voters are confronted with the arrogance, stagnation and >>>>> corruption that almost always disfigures single-party rule.

    The best illustration of this reality is found in state government
    rCLtrifectas.rCY ThatrCOs the term for a state where one party controls the
    governorrCOs mansion and both houses of the state legislature. As of >>>>> this month, there are 23 Republican trifectas and 16 Democratic ones. >>>>> That leaves 11 states with divided governments.

    Republicans may govern more states, but Democratic states tend to be >>>>> more populous. As a result, a roughly equal percentage of Americans
    live under total red or blue rule. As of January, 39.1 percent of
    Americans lived in blue trifecta states, and 41.5 percent lived in red >>>>> trifecta states, which means that less than 20 percent of the
    population lives in a divided state.

    Combine trifecta state control with aggressive partisan gerrymanders, >>>>> and you have exactly the situation in Congress that my colleague Tom >>>>> Edsall described this week: rCLAn overwhelming majority of House members >>>>> run in districts that are safe in the general election, where the only >>>>> threat to an incumbent is from a more ideologically extreme challenger >>>>> in the primary.rCY

    Another way of putting it is that the other side is so weak in so many >>>>> states and congressional districts that politicians can build entire >>>>> careers without having to appeal to voters on the other side of the
    aisle.

    For example, even in a year of remarkable public discontent, in which >>>>> the House may well change hands, the vast majority of members of
    Congress are completely safe. The Cook Political Report lists 186
    districts as solid Republican and 182 districts as solid Democrat.
    There are only 18 tossup races. If you add in the 20 races that merely >>>>> lean in one direction or the other, that gives you a grand total of 38 >>>>> competitive races in a 435-member House of Representatives.

    As a result, one-party politicians are often born in the partiesrCO
    bases and inept at reaching anyone even a few inches to their
    ideological right or left. In fact, the very effort to reach out to
    the opposition is usually interpreted as weakness, a misguided
    compromise against an uncompromising foe.

    The art of compromise vanishes before our eyes. After all, generations >>>>> of politicians now come from the roughly 80 percent of the country
    where compromise is almost always unnecessary. Compromises are
    internal only, as the party negotiates with itself. The opposition
    might as well not exist.

    The partisan majority in a single-party state will often radicalize. >>>>> As IrCOve explained before, the law of group polarization suggests that >>>>> when like-minded people deliberate, they tend to become more extreme. >>>>> Red bubbles get redder, Blue bubbles get bluer.

    ItrCOs not just that the two sides separate ideologically. They also >>>>> develop very different political cultures rCo to the extent that each >>>>> side is completely convinced that the other side is just, well, weird. >>>>> Our nation is full of radicalized people who donrCOt fully understand >>>>> that theyrCOre radical because everyone they know agrees with everything >>>>> they say.

    IrCOve heard Republicans and Democrats use exactly the same rCLStar WarsrCY
    reference to describe the other side. TheyrCOll say the other siderCOs >>>>> convention, for example, is like the Mos Eisley Cantina, the bar in
    rCLStar WarsrCY filled with bizarre creatures from across the galaxy. >>>>>
    Compounding the problem, the sheer size of the red and blue trifectas >>>>> mean that they define the nature of the respective parties, not
    swing-state politicians rCo even though swing-state politicians are
    indispensable to party control. The single-party partisans tell us
    what it means to be a rCLrealrCY Republican or a rCLrealrCY Democrat and often
    despise the rare politicians from their own party who can win on
    hostile ground. TheyrCOre the squishes, after all.

    Politics is always vulnerable to corruption, but single-party rule can >>>>> be a virtual petri dish for favoritism and graft. We all know that
    institutions tend to be terrible at policing themselves, and when one >>>>> party possesses complete control, it is rarely as vigilant at
    punishing its own as it is at pummeling the other side.

    Even swing states arenrCOt immune from the maladies of one-party rule. >>>>> The states themselves are often carved up into one-party enclaves.

    President Trump is perhaps the ultimate example of what one-party rule >>>>> in a two-party nation can produce. While he governs for himself (as
    many one-party politicians do), herCOs also vicious and vengeful to the >>>>> other side, and so long as he keeps attacking the hated Democratic
    foe, his party will gladly cover for his corruption and graft.

    But if the Democrats challenge Trump with the products of their own
    one-party rule, with a candidate who canrCOt even begin to speak the >>>>> language of the swing voter, much less the language of the disaffected >>>>> Republican, then werCOre setting ourselves up for yet another lurch back >>>>> to the competing extreme.

    There is no easy way for Americans to change this dynamic. But perhaps >>>>> rCo just perhaps rCo we can start by turning to those politicians whorCOve
    proven that theyrCOre culturally and politically bilingual. They can win >>>>> on hostile (or purple) ground. One can think of Andy Beshear, the
    governor of Kentucky, or Josh Shapiro, the governor of Pennsylvania. >>>>> On the Republican side, I can still remember when Charlie Baker, as
    governor of Massachusetts, was by some counts the most popular
    governor in America. In 2022, he recorded a stunning 74 percent
    approval rating.

    All of these politicians, though, suffer from the same vulnerability. >>>>> The partisan base can believe theyrCOre weak, that theyrCOre not real >>>>> Democrats or Republicans, mere DINOs or RINOs. But a party shouldnrCOt >>>>> be defined by its most zealous ideologues. Why would a progressive in >>>>> Brooklyn be a more authentic representative of the Democratic Party
    than a moderate in Tennessee? The same analysis applies to
    Republicans. You are not more Republican the more guns you own or the >>>>> more often you go to church rCo that makes you a type of Republican, but >>>>> not the ideal form.

    There are many, many Republicans, for example, who will rejoice if
    Susan Collins loses in Maine. She voted to convict Trump, and which
    real Republican would do that? There should be no such thing as the
    model ideological candidate.

    To quote the Apostle Paul in 1 Corinthians, one body has many parts, >>>>> and rCLthe eye cannot say to the hand, rCyI donrCOt need you!rCO And the head
    cannot say to the feet, rCyI donrCOt need you!rCOrCY The parties need >>>>> ideological diversity. Groupthink is dangerous, no matter where it is >>>>> found.

    IrCOd like to end a rather bleak newsletter with a dash of optimism. As >>>>> the Gallup poll indicates, present trends cannot continue forever. If >>>>> the number of independents continues to grow, and the share of
    partisans continues to shrink, the present system will grow more
    unstable. A diminishing percentage of Americans will not be able to
    hold the same amount of power.

    One-party rule can look imposing, but it is often fragile. It wasnrCOt >>>>> that long ago, for example, when there was a different kind of
    one-party rule in the South, and then it shifted from Democratic to
    Republican. It wasnrCOt that long ago that California was a swing state, >>>>> or that Iowa was briefly part of the Democratic PartyrCOs blue wall. >>>>>
    It might take time rCo far too much time rCo but when the single party >>>>> fails, eventually the dormant second party revives, the logjam breaks >>>>> and the system resets. But until then our one-party politics is
    undermining our two-party system, and our competition is reduced to
    determining which broken party will prevail.

    dissolve the senate, it was just a needless check on actual democracy

    reform the executive presidency into an executive council (5 reps from 3 >>>> parties: 2,2,1) requiring consensus decision making where each can vote >>>> pass/neg/block - majority to pass, no blocking votes

    Shared power has been tried a number of times since the romans tried
    it first. So far it has not worked well.

    i'm literally just recommending what is currently working out well in
    switzerland

    and there no division of territory here, they are not ruling and making
    decrees from different locations like the romans tried several times in
    their later stages. they deliberating as a council until consensus with
    each other is reached, and any one of them can block a policy entirely.

    This is pertinent. Rome conquered more territory than it could
    reasonably administer. It also helps that switz is a small country.
    Small countries tend to enjoy greater social cohesion.

    switzerland has 3 official languages because it's split into 3 regions
    with different dominate languages, even today. and up until modern
    tunnel boring the country was rather difficult to traverse.


    So, rather than solving the towering ambition problem, they have
    avoided it by having leaders that lack that characteristic.

    Not a solution to the underlying issue. And for them, likely not a
    long term solution. Sure you might beat the odds and find 3 good guys
    once. What are the odds then, of doing that again next time?

    it's 5: 2 from the top party, 2 from the second party, and 1 from a
    third. and they can only pass policy with consensus. i don't know how
    this remove the problem of ambition ... it's a structural shift in the requirements to pass policy

    u can't just elect one dumbfuck into power and give everyone else the
    run around, u have five from three different voting blocks, and so it
    requires putting in people who can actually deliberate


    The problem that govt's mostly fail to address is what to do with
    people with towering ambition? Lock them up and allow them no access
    to media?
    --
    why are we god?
    let's end war EfOa

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  • From Dude@punditster@gmail.com to alt.buddha.short.fat.guy on Thu Jun 25 18:38:06 2026
    From Newsgroup: alt.buddha.short.fat.guy

    On 6/25/2026 9:29 AM, Noah Sombrero wrote:
    On Thu, 25 Jun 2026 09:21:18 -0700, Dude <punditster@gmail.com> wrote:

    On 6/24/2026 9:26 PM, dart200 wrote:
    On 6/24/26 9:17 PM, Noah Sombrero wrote:
    On Wed, 24 Jun 2026 20:39:28 -0700, dart200
    <user7160@newsgrouper.org.invalid> wrote:

    On 6/24/26 7:51 PM, Noah Sombrero wrote:

    NY Times,

    June 24, 2026

    Why does our seemingly competitive two-party system produce so much >>>>>> stagnation and corruption?

    because a duopoly isn't competition,

    and because it's actually one club of people: oligarchs


    By David French

    ThererCOs a line from a speech that I keep thinking about.

    I wrote about it last month. Shane Massey, the Republican majority >>>>>> leader in the South Carolina Senate, spoke against a Trump-inspired >>>>>> plan to redistrict the state.

    rCLI will tell my Republican friends: Republicans are stronger when the >>>>>> Democrat Party is vibrant and viable,rCY Massey said. rCLWe are.
    Competition makes you better, yrCOall.rCY

    IrCOm reminded of a conversation I had many years ago with a friend who >>>>>> was then a senior executive at McDonaldrCOs (my favorite restaurant). >>>>>
    (imagine ur favorite restaurant being mcdonalds ?)

    When we spoke it was obvious that McDonaldrCOs had decisively won the >>>>>> burger wars, and that its chief competitors, Burger King and WendyrCOs, >>>>>> were no longer threats to dislodge Ronald McDonald from the Throne of >>>>>> Fries.

    I asked him if there was a sense of satisfaction at the company, and >>>>>> his response surprised me. rCLI have mixed feelings,rCY he said. rCLWe were
    a great company when the competition was intense.rCY

    The innovation and energy required to stave off a challenger was
    invigorating and perhaps most crucially, it staved off stagnation. >>>>>>
    So why isnrCOt this happening in American politics? Our nation has two >>>>>> parties of near-identical size and power, at least in theory. Control >>>>>> of the national government routinely flips back and forth, and even >>>>>> when one side wins full control its margins of victory are extremely >>>>>> narrow.

    And yet, instead of creating innovation and energy, our political
    competition seems to be yielding stagnation and corruption. I donrCOt >>>>>> believe that stagnation and corruption exist equally on both sides of >>>>>> the aisle, but itrCOs hard to find anyone who believes the Democratic >>>>>> Party is healthy and vibrant, especially after two losses to Donald >>>>>> Trump.

    Even if the two parties arenrCOt equally corrupt, they do share a
    different common characteristic: TheyrCOre equally repulsive to the >>>>>> public.

    A Gallup poll in January found that 45 percent of Americans identify >>>>>> as independents, a record since Gallup began regular polling in 1988. >>>>>> Equal percentages of adults, 27 percent, identify as Republicans or as >>>>>> Democrats.

    This doesnrCOt mean that neither side can win. When the public is
    disgusted with the current leadership, it has but one other
    alternative. Many voters are voting against incumbents more than
    theyrCOre endorsing their challengers.

    If the competition between McDonaldrCOs and Burger King gave us tastier >>>>>> fries, somehow the competition between Republicans and Democrats is >>>>>> giving us rotten politics.

    But what if we donrCOt actually have a competitive two-party system? >>>>>> What if our nation actually has two one-party systems, instead? And if >>>>>> the United States has two one-party systems, then that means that each >>>>>> way they turn voters are confronted with the arrogance, stagnation and >>>>>> corruption that almost always disfigures single-party rule.

    The best illustration of this reality is found in state government >>>>>> rCLtrifectas.rCY ThatrCOs the term for a state where one party controls the
    governorrCOs mansion and both houses of the state legislature. As of >>>>>> this month, there are 23 Republican trifectas and 16 Democratic ones. >>>>>> That leaves 11 states with divided governments.

    Republicans may govern more states, but Democratic states tend to be >>>>>> more populous. As a result, a roughly equal percentage of Americans >>>>>> live under total red or blue rule. As of January, 39.1 percent of
    Americans lived in blue trifecta states, and 41.5 percent lived in red >>>>>> trifecta states, which means that less than 20 percent of the
    population lives in a divided state.

    Combine trifecta state control with aggressive partisan gerrymanders, >>>>>> and you have exactly the situation in Congress that my colleague Tom >>>>>> Edsall described this week: rCLAn overwhelming majority of House members >>>>>> run in districts that are safe in the general election, where the only >>>>>> threat to an incumbent is from a more ideologically extreme challenger >>>>>> in the primary.rCY

    Another way of putting it is that the other side is so weak in so many >>>>>> states and congressional districts that politicians can build entire >>>>>> careers without having to appeal to voters on the other side of the >>>>>> aisle.

    For example, even in a year of remarkable public discontent, in which >>>>>> the House may well change hands, the vast majority of members of
    Congress are completely safe. The Cook Political Report lists 186
    districts as solid Republican and 182 districts as solid Democrat. >>>>>> There are only 18 tossup races. If you add in the 20 races that merely >>>>>> lean in one direction or the other, that gives you a grand total of 38 >>>>>> competitive races in a 435-member House of Representatives.

    As a result, one-party politicians are often born in the partiesrCO >>>>>> bases and inept at reaching anyone even a few inches to their
    ideological right or left. In fact, the very effort to reach out to >>>>>> the opposition is usually interpreted as weakness, a misguided
    compromise against an uncompromising foe.

    The art of compromise vanishes before our eyes. After all, generations >>>>>> of politicians now come from the roughly 80 percent of the country >>>>>> where compromise is almost always unnecessary. Compromises are
    internal only, as the party negotiates with itself. The opposition >>>>>> might as well not exist.

    The partisan majority in a single-party state will often radicalize. >>>>>> As IrCOve explained before, the law of group polarization suggests that >>>>>> when like-minded people deliberate, they tend to become more extreme. >>>>>> Red bubbles get redder, Blue bubbles get bluer.

    ItrCOs not just that the two sides separate ideologically. They also >>>>>> develop very different political cultures rCo to the extent that each >>>>>> side is completely convinced that the other side is just, well, weird. >>>>>> Our nation is full of radicalized people who donrCOt fully understand >>>>>> that theyrCOre radical because everyone they know agrees with everything >>>>>> they say.

    IrCOve heard Republicans and Democrats use exactly the same rCLStar WarsrCY
    reference to describe the other side. TheyrCOll say the other siderCOs >>>>>> convention, for example, is like the Mos Eisley Cantina, the bar in >>>>>> rCLStar WarsrCY filled with bizarre creatures from across the galaxy. >>>>>>
    Compounding the problem, the sheer size of the red and blue trifectas >>>>>> mean that they define the nature of the respective parties, not
    swing-state politicians rCo even though swing-state politicians are >>>>>> indispensable to party control. The single-party partisans tell us >>>>>> what it means to be a rCLrealrCY Republican or a rCLrealrCY Democrat and often
    despise the rare politicians from their own party who can win on
    hostile ground. TheyrCOre the squishes, after all.

    Politics is always vulnerable to corruption, but single-party rule can >>>>>> be a virtual petri dish for favoritism and graft. We all know that >>>>>> institutions tend to be terrible at policing themselves, and when one >>>>>> party possesses complete control, it is rarely as vigilant at
    punishing its own as it is at pummeling the other side.

    Even swing states arenrCOt immune from the maladies of one-party rule. >>>>>> The states themselves are often carved up into one-party enclaves. >>>>>>
    President Trump is perhaps the ultimate example of what one-party rule >>>>>> in a two-party nation can produce. While he governs for himself (as >>>>>> many one-party politicians do), herCOs also vicious and vengeful to the >>>>>> other side, and so long as he keeps attacking the hated Democratic >>>>>> foe, his party will gladly cover for his corruption and graft.

    But if the Democrats challenge Trump with the products of their own >>>>>> one-party rule, with a candidate who canrCOt even begin to speak the >>>>>> language of the swing voter, much less the language of the disaffected >>>>>> Republican, then werCOre setting ourselves up for yet another lurch back >>>>>> to the competing extreme.

    There is no easy way for Americans to change this dynamic. But perhaps >>>>>> rCo just perhaps rCo we can start by turning to those politicians whorCOve
    proven that theyrCOre culturally and politically bilingual. They can win >>>>>> on hostile (or purple) ground. One can think of Andy Beshear, the
    governor of Kentucky, or Josh Shapiro, the governor of Pennsylvania. >>>>>> On the Republican side, I can still remember when Charlie Baker, as >>>>>> governor of Massachusetts, was by some counts the most popular
    governor in America. In 2022, he recorded a stunning 74 percent
    approval rating.

    All of these politicians, though, suffer from the same vulnerability. >>>>>> The partisan base can believe theyrCOre weak, that theyrCOre not real >>>>>> Democrats or Republicans, mere DINOs or RINOs. But a party shouldnrCOt >>>>>> be defined by its most zealous ideologues. Why would a progressive in >>>>>> Brooklyn be a more authentic representative of the Democratic Party >>>>>> than a moderate in Tennessee? The same analysis applies to
    Republicans. You are not more Republican the more guns you own or the >>>>>> more often you go to church rCo that makes you a type of Republican, but >>>>>> not the ideal form.

    There are many, many Republicans, for example, who will rejoice if >>>>>> Susan Collins loses in Maine. She voted to convict Trump, and which >>>>>> real Republican would do that? There should be no such thing as the >>>>>> model ideological candidate.

    To quote the Apostle Paul in 1 Corinthians, one body has many parts, >>>>>> and rCLthe eye cannot say to the hand, rCyI donrCOt need you!rCO And the head
    cannot say to the feet, rCyI donrCOt need you!rCOrCY The parties need >>>>>> ideological diversity. Groupthink is dangerous, no matter where it is >>>>>> found.

    IrCOd like to end a rather bleak newsletter with a dash of optimism. As >>>>>> the Gallup poll indicates, present trends cannot continue forever. If >>>>>> the number of independents continues to grow, and the share of
    partisans continues to shrink, the present system will grow more
    unstable. A diminishing percentage of Americans will not be able to >>>>>> hold the same amount of power.

    One-party rule can look imposing, but it is often fragile. It wasnrCOt >>>>>> that long ago, for example, when there was a different kind of
    one-party rule in the South, and then it shifted from Democratic to >>>>>> Republican. It wasnrCOt that long ago that California was a swing state, >>>>>> or that Iowa was briefly part of the Democratic PartyrCOs blue wall. >>>>>>
    It might take time rCo far too much time rCo but when the single party >>>>>> fails, eventually the dormant second party revives, the logjam breaks >>>>>> and the system resets. But until then our one-party politics is
    undermining our two-party system, and our competition is reduced to >>>>>> determining which broken party will prevail.

    dissolve the senate, it was just a needless check on actual democracy >>>>>
    reform the executive presidency into an executive council (5 reps from 3 >>>>> parties: 2,2,1) requiring consensus decision making where each can vote >>>>> pass/neg/block - majority to pass, no blocking votes

    Shared power has been tried a number of times since the romans tried
    it first.-a So far it has not worked well.

    working pretty well in switzerland

    Let's try to make sense out of this, since Nick insists on interjecting
    his one-liners in a top-post about oligarchs.

    Then, reading back down to David French, he says nothing about oligarchs
    running the country. So, in comes Noah changing the topic to the Roman
    Empire. Then, here comes Nick back, posting in a reply at the bottom
    about Switzerland.

    So, what we have here is a total vindication of what Wilson has been
    saying here for years!

    That following a thought can require various diversions to reach an understanding?

    Nick, said that the free market is working well in Switzerland.>
    Apparently Switzerland is a Libertarian free market mix of social and
    cultural conservatism with strong economic and political liberalism.

    Swiss conservatism is generally cautious and traditional (resisting
    rapid changes), while its liberalism favors free-market economics,
    robust civil liberties, and the world's most extensive system of direct
    democracy." - Wikipedia

    That must make you feel good. But it does not explain dart's
    assertion.

    David French said nothing about oligarchs running the countries
    political system.
    Am I missing something?



    The problem that govt's mostly fail to address is what to do with
    people with towering ambition?-a Lock them up and allow them no access >>>> to media?


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  • From Dude@punditster@gmail.com to alt.buddha.short.fat.guy on Thu Jun 25 18:56:10 2026
    From Newsgroup: alt.buddha.short.fat.guy

    On 6/25/2026 9:42 AM, Noah Sombrero wrote:
    On Thu, 25 Jun 2026 08:58:42 -0700, Dude <punditster@gmail.com> wrote:

    On 6/24/2026 8:39 PM, dart200 wrote:
    On 6/24/26 7:51 PM, Noah Sombrero wrote:

    NY Times,

    June 24, 2026

    Why does our seemingly competitive two-party system produce so much
    stagnation and corruption?

    because a duopoly isn't competition,

    A top-poster now, eh?

    and because it's actually one club of people: oligarchs

    Yes. I think that's what David French wrote, except he left out the word
    "oligarchs" - probably because he does not write biased opinions that
    confuse his readers. Oligarchs are in Russia - there's no parties - it"s
    an oligarchy.

    Very good point. You have actually forfeited any right to call that
    article propaganda. Are you ok with that?

    Nick is the informant that called the article propaganda by inserting
    the word "oligarch" in a top post. I'm not OK with that. YMMV.



    By David French

    ThererCOs a line from a speech that I keep thinking about.

    I wrote about it last month. Shane Massey, the Republican majority
    leader in the South Carolina Senate, spoke against a Trump-inspired
    plan to redistrict the state.

    rCLI will tell my Republican friends: Republicans are stronger when the >>>> Democrat Party is vibrant and viable,rCY Massey said. rCLWe are.
    Competition makes you better, yrCOall.rCY

    IrCOm reminded of a conversation I had many years ago with a friend who >>>> was then a senior executive at McDonaldrCOs (my favorite restaurant).

    (imagine ur favorite restaurant being mcdonalds ?)

    When we spoke it was obvious that McDonaldrCOs had decisively won the
    burger wars, and that its chief competitors, Burger King and WendyrCOs, >>>> were no longer threats to dislodge Ronald McDonald from the Throne of
    Fries.

    I asked him if there was a sense of satisfaction at the company, and
    his response surprised me. rCLI have mixed feelings,rCY he said. rCLWe were
    a great company when the competition was intense.rCY

    The innovation and energy required to stave off a challenger was
    invigorating and perhaps most crucially, it staved off stagnation.

    So why isnrCOt this happening in American politics? Our nation has two >>>> parties of near-identical size and power, at least in theory. Control
    of the national government routinely flips back and forth, and even
    when one side wins full control its margins of victory are extremely
    narrow.

    And yet, instead of creating innovation and energy, our political
    competition seems to be yielding stagnation and corruption. I donrCOt
    believe that stagnation and corruption exist equally on both sides of
    the aisle, but itrCOs hard to find anyone who believes the Democratic
    Party is healthy and vibrant, especially after two losses to Donald
    Trump.

    Even if the two parties arenrCOt equally corrupt, they do share a
    different common characteristic: TheyrCOre equally repulsive to the
    public.

    A Gallup poll in January found that 45 percent of Americans identify
    as independents, a record since Gallup began regular polling in 1988.
    Equal percentages of adults, 27 percent, identify as Republicans or as >>>> Democrats.

    This doesnrCOt mean that neither side can win. When the public is
    disgusted with the current leadership, it has but one other
    alternative. Many voters are voting against incumbents more than
    theyrCOre endorsing their challengers.

    If the competition between McDonaldrCOs and Burger King gave us tastier >>>> fries, somehow the competition between Republicans and Democrats is
    giving us rotten politics.

    But what if we donrCOt actually have a competitive two-party system?
    What if our nation actually has two one-party systems, instead? And if >>>> the United States has two one-party systems, then that means that each >>>> way they turn voters are confronted with the arrogance, stagnation and >>>> corruption that almost always disfigures single-party rule.

    The best illustration of this reality is found in state government
    rCLtrifectas.rCY ThatrCOs the term for a state where one party controls the
    governorrCOs mansion and both houses of the state legislature. As of
    this month, there are 23 Republican trifectas and 16 Democratic ones.
    That leaves 11 states with divided governments.

    Republicans may govern more states, but Democratic states tend to be
    more populous. As a result, a roughly equal percentage of Americans
    live under total red or blue rule. As of January, 39.1 percent of
    Americans lived in blue trifecta states, and 41.5 percent lived in red >>>> trifecta states, which means that less than 20 percent of the
    population lives in a divided state.

    Combine trifecta state control with aggressive partisan gerrymanders,
    and you have exactly the situation in Congress that my colleague Tom
    Edsall described this week: rCLAn overwhelming majority of House members >>>> run in districts that are safe in the general election, where the only >>>> threat to an incumbent is from a more ideologically extreme challenger >>>> in the primary.rCY

    Another way of putting it is that the other side is so weak in so many >>>> states and congressional districts that politicians can build entire
    careers without having to appeal to voters on the other side of the
    aisle.

    For example, even in a year of remarkable public discontent, in which
    the House may well change hands, the vast majority of members of
    Congress are completely safe. The Cook Political Report lists 186
    districts as solid Republican and 182 districts as solid Democrat.
    There are only 18 tossup races. If you add in the 20 races that merely >>>> lean in one direction or the other, that gives you a grand total of 38 >>>> competitive races in a 435-member House of Representatives.

    As a result, one-party politicians are often born in the partiesrCO
    bases and inept at reaching anyone even a few inches to their
    ideological right or left. In fact, the very effort to reach out to
    the opposition is usually interpreted as weakness, a misguided
    compromise against an uncompromising foe.

    The art of compromise vanishes before our eyes. After all, generations >>>> of politicians now come from the roughly 80 percent of the country
    where compromise is almost always unnecessary. Compromises are
    internal only, as the party negotiates with itself. The opposition
    might as well not exist.

    The partisan majority in a single-party state will often radicalize.
    As IrCOve explained before, the law of group polarization suggests that >>>> when like-minded people deliberate, they tend to become more extreme.
    Red bubbles get redder, Blue bubbles get bluer.

    ItrCOs not just that the two sides separate ideologically. They also
    develop very different political cultures rCo to the extent that each
    side is completely convinced that the other side is just, well, weird. >>>> Our nation is full of radicalized people who donrCOt fully understand
    that theyrCOre radical because everyone they know agrees with everything >>>> they say.

    IrCOve heard Republicans and Democrats use exactly the same rCLStar WarsrCY
    reference to describe the other side. TheyrCOll say the other siderCOs >>>> convention, for example, is like the Mos Eisley Cantina, the bar in
    rCLStar WarsrCY filled with bizarre creatures from across the galaxy.

    Compounding the problem, the sheer size of the red and blue trifectas
    mean that they define the nature of the respective parties, not
    swing-state politicians rCo even though swing-state politicians are
    indispensable to party control. The single-party partisans tell us
    what it means to be a rCLrealrCY Republican or a rCLrealrCY Democrat and often
    despise the rare politicians from their own party who can win on
    hostile ground. TheyrCOre the squishes, after all.

    Politics is always vulnerable to corruption, but single-party rule can >>>> be a virtual petri dish for favoritism and graft. We all know that
    institutions tend to be terrible at policing themselves, and when one
    party possesses complete control, it is rarely as vigilant at
    punishing its own as it is at pummeling the other side.

    Even swing states arenrCOt immune from the maladies of one-party rule. >>>> The states themselves are often carved up into one-party enclaves.

    President Trump is perhaps the ultimate example of what one-party rule >>>> in a two-party nation can produce. While he governs for himself (as
    many one-party politicians do), herCOs also vicious and vengeful to the >>>> other side, and so long as he keeps attacking the hated Democratic
    foe, his party will gladly cover for his corruption and graft.

    But if the Democrats challenge Trump with the products of their own
    one-party rule, with a candidate who canrCOt even begin to speak the
    language of the swing voter, much less the language of the disaffected >>>> Republican, then werCOre setting ourselves up for yet another lurch back >>>> to the competing extreme.

    There is no easy way for Americans to change this dynamic. But perhaps >>>> rCo just perhaps rCo we can start by turning to those politicians whorCOve >>>> proven that theyrCOre culturally and politically bilingual. They can win >>>> on hostile (or purple) ground. One can think of Andy Beshear, the
    governor of Kentucky, or Josh Shapiro, the governor of Pennsylvania.
    On the Republican side, I can still remember when Charlie Baker, as
    governor of Massachusetts, was by some counts the most popular
    governor in America. In 2022, he recorded a stunning 74 percent
    approval rating.

    All of these politicians, though, suffer from the same vulnerability.
    The partisan base can believe theyrCOre weak, that theyrCOre not real
    Democrats or Republicans, mere DINOs or RINOs. But a party shouldnrCOt >>>> be defined by its most zealous ideologues. Why would a progressive in
    Brooklyn be a more authentic representative of the Democratic Party
    than a moderate in Tennessee? The same analysis applies to
    Republicans. You are not more Republican the more guns you own or the
    more often you go to church rCo that makes you a type of Republican, but >>>> not the ideal form.

    There are many, many Republicans, for example, who will rejoice if
    Susan Collins loses in Maine. She voted to convict Trump, and which
    real Republican would do that? There should be no such thing as the
    model ideological candidate.

    To quote the Apostle Paul in 1 Corinthians, one body has many parts,
    and rCLthe eye cannot say to the hand, rCyI donrCOt need you!rCO And the head
    cannot say to the feet, rCyI donrCOt need you!rCOrCY The parties need
    ideological diversity. Groupthink is dangerous, no matter where it is
    found.

    IrCOd like to end a rather bleak newsletter with a dash of optimism. As >>>> the Gallup poll indicates, present trends cannot continue forever. If
    the number of independents continues to grow, and the share of
    partisans continues to shrink, the present system will grow more
    unstable. A diminishing percentage of Americans will not be able to
    hold the same amount of power.

    One-party rule can look imposing, but it is often fragile. It wasnrCOt >>>> that long ago, for example, when there was a different kind of
    one-party rule in the South, and then it shifted from Democratic to
    Republican. It wasnrCOt that long ago that California was a swing state, >>>> or that Iowa was briefly part of the Democratic PartyrCOs blue wall.

    It might take time rCo far too much time rCo but when the single party >>>> fails, eventually the dormant second party revives, the logjam breaks
    and the system resets. But until then our one-party politics is
    undermining our two-party system, and our competition is reduced to
    determining which broken party will prevail.

    dissolve the senate, it was just a needless check on actual democracy

    reform the executive presidency into an executive council (5 reps from 3 >>> parties: 2,2,1) requiring consensus decision making where each can vote
    pass/neg/block - majority to pass, no blocking votes


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  • From Dude@punditster@gmail.com to alt.buddha.short.fat.guy,alt.messianic on Thu Jun 25 20:36:51 2026
    From Newsgroup: alt.buddha.short.fat.guy

    On 6/25/2026 3:44 PM, dart200 wrote:
    On 6/25/26 9:35 AM, Noah Sombrero wrote:
    On Wed, 24 Jun 2026 21:40:10 -0700, dart200
    <user7160@newsgrouper.org.invalid> wrote:

    On 6/24/26 9:17 PM, Noah Sombrero wrote:
    On Wed, 24 Jun 2026 20:39:28 -0700, dart200
    <user7160@newsgrouper.org.invalid> wrote:

    On 6/24/26 7:51 PM, Noah Sombrero wrote:

    NY Times,

    June 24, 2026

    Why does our seemingly competitive two-party system produce so much >>>>>> stagnation and corruption?

    because a duopoly isn't competition,

    and because it's actually one club of people: oligarchs


    By David French

    ThererCOs a line from a speech that I keep thinking about.

    I wrote about it last month. Shane Massey, the Republican majority >>>>>> leader in the South Carolina Senate, spoke against a Trump-inspired >>>>>> plan to redistrict the state.

    rCLI will tell my Republican friends: Republicans are stronger when the >>>>>> Democrat Party is vibrant and viable,rCY Massey said. rCLWe are.
    Competition makes you better, yrCOall.rCY

    IrCOm reminded of a conversation I had many years ago with a friend who >>>>>> was then a senior executive at McDonaldrCOs (my favorite restaurant). >>>>>
    (imagine ur favorite restaurant being mcdonalds ?)

    When we spoke it was obvious that McDonaldrCOs had decisively won the >>>>>> burger wars, and that its chief competitors, Burger King and WendyrCOs, >>>>>> were no longer threats to dislodge Ronald McDonald from the Throne of >>>>>> Fries.

    I asked him if there was a sense of satisfaction at the company, and >>>>>> his response surprised me. rCLI have mixed feelings,rCY he said. rCLWe were
    a great company when the competition was intense.rCY

    The innovation and energy required to stave off a challenger was
    invigorating and perhaps most crucially, it staved off stagnation. >>>>>>
    So why isnrCOt this happening in American politics? Our nation has two >>>>>> parties of near-identical size and power, at least in theory. Control >>>>>> of the national government routinely flips back and forth, and even >>>>>> when one side wins full control its margins of victory are extremely >>>>>> narrow.

    And yet, instead of creating innovation and energy, our political
    competition seems to be yielding stagnation and corruption. I donrCOt >>>>>> believe that stagnation and corruption exist equally on both sides of >>>>>> the aisle, but itrCOs hard to find anyone who believes the Democratic >>>>>> Party is healthy and vibrant, especially after two losses to Donald >>>>>> Trump.

    Even if the two parties arenrCOt equally corrupt, they do share a
    different common characteristic: TheyrCOre equally repulsive to the >>>>>> public.

    A Gallup poll in January found that 45 percent of Americans identify >>>>>> as independents, a record since Gallup began regular polling in 1988. >>>>>> Equal percentages of adults, 27 percent, identify as Republicans
    or as
    Democrats.

    This doesnrCOt mean that neither side can win. When the public is
    disgusted with the current leadership, it has but one other
    alternative. Many voters are voting against incumbents more than
    theyrCOre endorsing their challengers.

    If the competition between McDonaldrCOs and Burger King gave us tastier >>>>>> fries, somehow the competition between Republicans and Democrats is >>>>>> giving us rotten politics.

    But what if we donrCOt actually have a competitive two-party system? >>>>>> What if our nation actually has two one-party systems, instead?
    And if
    the United States has two one-party systems, then that means that >>>>>> each
    way they turn voters are confronted with the arrogance, stagnation >>>>>> and
    corruption that almost always disfigures single-party rule.

    The best illustration of this reality is found in state government >>>>>> rCLtrifectas.rCY ThatrCOs the term for a state where one party controls the
    governorrCOs mansion and both houses of the state legislature. As of >>>>>> this month, there are 23 Republican trifectas and 16 Democratic ones. >>>>>> That leaves 11 states with divided governments.

    Republicans may govern more states, but Democratic states tend to be >>>>>> more populous. As a result, a roughly equal percentage of Americans >>>>>> live under total red or blue rule. As of January, 39.1 percent of
    Americans lived in blue trifecta states, and 41.5 percent lived in >>>>>> red
    trifecta states, which means that less than 20 percent of the
    population lives in a divided state.

    Combine trifecta state control with aggressive partisan gerrymanders, >>>>>> and you have exactly the situation in Congress that my colleague Tom >>>>>> Edsall described this week: rCLAn overwhelming majority of House
    members
    run in districts that are safe in the general election, where the >>>>>> only
    threat to an incumbent is from a more ideologically extreme
    challenger
    in the primary.rCY

    Another way of putting it is that the other side is so weak in so >>>>>> many
    states and congressional districts that politicians can build entire >>>>>> careers without having to appeal to voters on the other side of the >>>>>> aisle.

    For example, even in a year of remarkable public discontent, in which >>>>>> the House may well change hands, the vast majority of members of
    Congress are completely safe. The Cook Political Report lists 186
    districts as solid Republican and 182 districts as solid Democrat. >>>>>> There are only 18 tossup races. If you add in the 20 races that
    merely
    lean in one direction or the other, that gives you a grand total
    of 38
    competitive races in a 435-member House of Representatives.

    As a result, one-party politicians are often born in the partiesrCO >>>>>> bases and inept at reaching anyone even a few inches to their
    ideological right or left. In fact, the very effort to reach out to >>>>>> the opposition is usually interpreted as weakness, a misguided
    compromise against an uncompromising foe.

    The art of compromise vanishes before our eyes. After all,
    generations
    of politicians now come from the roughly 80 percent of the country >>>>>> where compromise is almost always unnecessary. Compromises are
    internal only, as the party negotiates with itself. The opposition >>>>>> might as well not exist.

    The partisan majority in a single-party state will often radicalize. >>>>>> As IrCOve explained before, the law of group polarization suggests that >>>>>> when like-minded people deliberate, they tend to become more extreme. >>>>>> Red bubbles get redder, Blue bubbles get bluer.

    ItrCOs not just that the two sides separate ideologically. They also >>>>>> develop very different political cultures rCo to the extent that each >>>>>> side is completely convinced that the other side is just, well,
    weird.
    Our nation is full of radicalized people who donrCOt fully understand >>>>>> that theyrCOre radical because everyone they know agrees with
    everything
    they say.

    IrCOve heard Republicans and Democrats use exactly the same rCLStar WarsrCY
    reference to describe the other side. TheyrCOll say the other siderCOs >>>>>> convention, for example, is like the Mos Eisley Cantina, the bar in >>>>>> rCLStar WarsrCY filled with bizarre creatures from across the galaxy. >>>>>>
    Compounding the problem, the sheer size of the red and blue trifectas >>>>>> mean that they define the nature of the respective parties, not
    swing-state politicians rCo even though swing-state politicians are >>>>>> indispensable to party control. The single-party partisans tell us >>>>>> what it means to be a rCLrealrCY Republican or a rCLrealrCY Democrat and
    often
    despise the rare politicians from their own party who can win on
    hostile ground. TheyrCOre the squishes, after all.

    Politics is always vulnerable to corruption, but single-party rule >>>>>> can
    be a virtual petri dish for favoritism and graft. We all know that >>>>>> institutions tend to be terrible at policing themselves, and when one >>>>>> party possesses complete control, it is rarely as vigilant at
    punishing its own as it is at pummeling the other side.

    Even swing states arenrCOt immune from the maladies of one-party rule. >>>>>> The states themselves are often carved up into one-party enclaves. >>>>>>
    President Trump is perhaps the ultimate example of what one-party >>>>>> rule
    in a two-party nation can produce. While he governs for himself (as >>>>>> many one-party politicians do), herCOs also vicious and vengeful to the >>>>>> other side, and so long as he keeps attacking the hated Democratic >>>>>> foe, his party will gladly cover for his corruption and graft.

    But if the Democrats challenge Trump with the products of their own >>>>>> one-party rule, with a candidate who canrCOt even begin to speak the >>>>>> language of the swing voter, much less the language of the
    disaffected
    Republican, then werCOre setting ourselves up for yet another lurch >>>>>> back
    to the competing extreme.

    There is no easy way for Americans to change this dynamic. But
    perhaps
    rCo just perhaps rCo we can start by turning to those politicians whorCOve
    proven that theyrCOre culturally and politically bilingual. They can >>>>>> win
    on hostile (or purple) ground. One can think of Andy Beshear, the
    governor of Kentucky, or Josh Shapiro, the governor of Pennsylvania. >>>>>> On the Republican side, I can still remember when Charlie Baker, as >>>>>> governor of Massachusetts, was by some counts the most popular
    governor in America. In 2022, he recorded a stunning 74 percent
    approval rating.

    All of these politicians, though, suffer from the same vulnerability. >>>>>> The partisan base can believe theyrCOre weak, that theyrCOre not real >>>>>> Democrats or Republicans, mere DINOs or RINOs. But a party shouldnrCOt >>>>>> be defined by its most zealous ideologues. Why would a progressive in >>>>>> Brooklyn be a more authentic representative of the Democratic Party >>>>>> than a moderate in Tennessee? The same analysis applies to
    Republicans. You are not more Republican the more guns you own or the >>>>>> more often you go to church rCo that makes you a type of Republican, >>>>>> but
    not the ideal form.

    There are many, many Republicans, for example, who will rejoice if >>>>>> Susan Collins loses in Maine. She voted to convict Trump, and which >>>>>> real Republican would do that? There should be no such thing as the >>>>>> model ideological candidate.

    To quote the Apostle Paul in 1 Corinthians, one body has many parts, >>>>>> and rCLthe eye cannot say to the hand, rCyI donrCOt need you!rCO And the head
    cannot say to the feet, rCyI donrCOt need you!rCOrCY The parties need >>>>>> ideological diversity. Groupthink is dangerous, no matter where it is >>>>>> found.

    IrCOd like to end a rather bleak newsletter with a dash of optimism. As >>>>>> the Gallup poll indicates, present trends cannot continue forever. If >>>>>> the number of independents continues to grow, and the share of
    partisans continues to shrink, the present system will grow more
    unstable. A diminishing percentage of Americans will not be able to >>>>>> hold the same amount of power.

    One-party rule can look imposing, but it is often fragile. It wasnrCOt >>>>>> that long ago, for example, when there was a different kind of
    one-party rule in the South, and then it shifted from Democratic to >>>>>> Republican. It wasnrCOt that long ago that California was a swing >>>>>> state,
    or that Iowa was briefly part of the Democratic PartyrCOs blue wall. >>>>>>
    It might take time rCo far too much time rCo but when the single party >>>>>> fails, eventually the dormant second party revives, the logjam breaks >>>>>> and the system resets. But until then our one-party politics is
    undermining our two-party system, and our competition is reduced to >>>>>> determining which broken party will prevail.

    dissolve the senate, it was just a needless check on actual democracy >>>>>
    reform the executive presidency into an executive council (5 reps
    from 3
    parties: 2,2,1) requiring consensus decision making where each can
    vote
    pass/neg/block - majority to pass, no blocking votes

    Shared power has been tried a number of times since the romans tried
    it first.-a So far it has not worked well.

    i'm literally just recommending what is currently working out well in
    switzerland

    and there no division of territory here, they are not ruling and making
    decrees from different locations like the romans tried several times in
    their later stages. they deliberating as a council until consensus with
    each other is reached, and any one of them can block a policy entirely.

    This is pertinent.-a Rome conquered more territory than it could
    reasonably administer.-a It also helps that switz is a small country.
    Small countries tend to enjoy greater social cohesion.

    switzerland has 3 official languages because it's split into 3 regions
    with different dominate languages, even today. and up until modern
    tunnel boring the country was rather difficult to traverse.


    So, rather than solving the towering ambition problem, they have
    avoided it by having leaders that lack that characteristic.

    Not a solution to the underlying issue.-a And for them, likely not a
    long term solution.-a Sure you might beat the odds and find 3 good guys
    once.-a What are the odds then, of doing that again next time?

    it's 5: 2 from the top party, 2 from the second party, and 1 from a
    third. and they can only pass policy with consensus. i don't know how
    this remove the problem of ambition ... it's a structural shift in the requirements to pass policy

    u can't just elect one dumbfuck into power and give everyone else the
    run around, u have five from three different voting blocks, and so it requires putting in people who can actually deliberate

    It kind of looks like Nick top-posted and changed the subject from the
    burger war, to the oligarchs in Russia, then changed the subject again
    to Switzerland following Noah's assertion that the Romans did it and so
    Nick cross-posted to alt.messianic.

    Since they both ignored my post, I'm interjecting it again:

    Apparently the reason Switzerland is so successful because it's a
    Libertarian free market mix of social and cultural conservatism with
    strong economic and political liberalism.

    "Swiss conservatism is generally cautious and traditional (resisting
    rapid changes), while its liberalism favors free-market economics,
    robust civil liberties, and the world's most extensive system of direct democracy." - Wikipedia



    The problem that govt's mostly fail to address is what to do with
    people with towering ambition?-a Lock them up and allow them no access >>>> to media?


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  • From Noah Sombrero@fedora@fea.st to alt.buddha.short.fat.guy on Fri Jun 26 00:12:19 2026
    From Newsgroup: alt.buddha.short.fat.guy

    On Thu, 25 Jun 2026 15:44:04 -0700, dart200
    <user7160@newsgrouper.org.invalid> wrote:

    On 6/25/26 9:35 AM, Noah Sombrero wrote:
    On Wed, 24 Jun 2026 21:40:10 -0700, dart200
    <user7160@newsgrouper.org.invalid> wrote:

    On 6/24/26 9:17 PM, Noah Sombrero wrote:
    On Wed, 24 Jun 2026 20:39:28 -0700, dart200
    <user7160@newsgrouper.org.invalid> wrote:

    On 6/24/26 7:51 PM, Noah Sombrero wrote:

    NY Times,

    June 24, 2026

    Why does our seemingly competitive two-party system produce so much >>>>>> stagnation and corruption?

    because a duopoly isn't competition,

    and because it's actually one club of people: oligarchs


    By David French

    ThereAs a line from a speech that I keep thinking about.

    I wrote about it last month. Shane Massey, the Republican majority >>>>>> leader in the South Carolina Senate, spoke against a Trump-inspired >>>>>> plan to redistrict the state.

    oI will tell my Republican friends: Republicans are stronger when the >>>>>> Democrat Party is vibrant and viable,o Massey said. oWe are.
    Competition makes you better, yAall.o

    IAm reminded of a conversation I had many years ago with a friend who >>>>>> was then a senior executive at McDonaldAs (my favorite restaurant). >>>>>
    (imagine ur favorite restaurant being mcdonalds ?)

    When we spoke it was obvious that McDonaldAs had decisively won the >>>>>> burger wars, and that its chief competitors, Burger King and WendyAs, >>>>>> were no longer threats to dislodge Ronald McDonald from the Throne of >>>>>> Fries.

    I asked him if there was a sense of satisfaction at the company, and >>>>>> his response surprised me. oI have mixed feelings,o he said. oWe were >>>>>> a great company when the competition was intense.o

    The innovation and energy required to stave off a challenger was
    invigorating and perhaps most crucially, it staved off stagnation. >>>>>>
    So why isnAt this happening in American politics? Our nation has two >>>>>> parties of near-identical size and power, at least in theory. Control >>>>>> of the national government routinely flips back and forth, and even >>>>>> when one side wins full control its margins of victory are extremely >>>>>> narrow.

    And yet, instead of creating innovation and energy, our political
    competition seems to be yielding stagnation and corruption. I donAt >>>>>> believe that stagnation and corruption exist equally on both sides of >>>>>> the aisle, but itAs hard to find anyone who believes the Democratic >>>>>> Party is healthy and vibrant, especially after two losses to Donald >>>>>> Trump.

    Even if the two parties arenAt equally corrupt, they do share a
    different common characteristic: TheyAre equally repulsive to the
    public.

    A Gallup poll in January found that 45 percent of Americans identify >>>>>> as independents, a record since Gallup began regular polling in 1988. >>>>>> Equal percentages of adults, 27 percent, identify as Republicans or as >>>>>> Democrats.

    This doesnAt mean that neither side can win. When the public is
    disgusted with the current leadership, it has but one other
    alternative. Many voters are voting against incumbents more than
    theyAre endorsing their challengers.

    If the competition between McDonaldAs and Burger King gave us tastier >>>>>> fries, somehow the competition between Republicans and Democrats is >>>>>> giving us rotten politics.

    But what if we donAt actually have a competitive two-party system? >>>>>> What if our nation actually has two one-party systems, instead? And if >>>>>> the United States has two one-party systems, then that means that each >>>>>> way they turn voters are confronted with the arrogance, stagnation and >>>>>> corruption that almost always disfigures single-party rule.

    The best illustration of this reality is found in state government >>>>>> otrifectas.o ThatAs the term for a state where one party controls the >>>>>> governorAs mansion and both houses of the state legislature. As of >>>>>> this month, there are 23 Republican trifectas and 16 Democratic ones. >>>>>> That leaves 11 states with divided governments.

    Republicans may govern more states, but Democratic states tend to be >>>>>> more populous. As a result, a roughly equal percentage of Americans >>>>>> live under total red or blue rule. As of January, 39.1 percent of
    Americans lived in blue trifecta states, and 41.5 percent lived in red >>>>>> trifecta states, which means that less than 20 percent of the
    population lives in a divided state.

    Combine trifecta state control with aggressive partisan gerrymanders, >>>>>> and you have exactly the situation in Congress that my colleague Tom >>>>>> Edsall described this week: oAn overwhelming majority of House members >>>>>> run in districts that are safe in the general election, where the only >>>>>> threat to an incumbent is from a more ideologically extreme challenger >>>>>> in the primary.o

    Another way of putting it is that the other side is so weak in so many >>>>>> states and congressional districts that politicians can build entire >>>>>> careers without having to appeal to voters on the other side of the >>>>>> aisle.

    For example, even in a year of remarkable public discontent, in which >>>>>> the House may well change hands, the vast majority of members of
    Congress are completely safe. The Cook Political Report lists 186
    districts as solid Republican and 182 districts as solid Democrat. >>>>>> There are only 18 tossup races. If you add in the 20 races that merely >>>>>> lean in one direction or the other, that gives you a grand total of 38 >>>>>> competitive races in a 435-member House of Representatives.

    As a result, one-party politicians are often born in the partiesA
    bases and inept at reaching anyone even a few inches to their
    ideological right or left. In fact, the very effort to reach out to >>>>>> the opposition is usually interpreted as weakness, a misguided
    compromise against an uncompromising foe.

    The art of compromise vanishes before our eyes. After all, generations >>>>>> of politicians now come from the roughly 80 percent of the country >>>>>> where compromise is almost always unnecessary. Compromises are
    internal only, as the party negotiates with itself. The opposition >>>>>> might as well not exist.

    The partisan majority in a single-party state will often radicalize. >>>>>> As IAve explained before, the law of group polarization suggests that >>>>>> when like-minded people deliberate, they tend to become more extreme. >>>>>> Red bubbles get redder, Blue bubbles get bluer.

    ItAs not just that the two sides separate ideologically. They also >>>>>> develop very different political cultures u to the extent that each >>>>>> side is completely convinced that the other side is just, well, weird. >>>>>> Our nation is full of radicalized people who donAt fully understand >>>>>> that theyAre radical because everyone they know agrees with everything >>>>>> they say.

    IAve heard Republicans and Democrats use exactly the same oStar Warso >>>>>> reference to describe the other side. TheyAll say the other sideAs >>>>>> convention, for example, is like the Mos Eisley Cantina, the bar in >>>>>> oStar Warso filled with bizarre creatures from across the galaxy.

    Compounding the problem, the sheer size of the red and blue trifectas >>>>>> mean that they define the nature of the respective parties, not
    swing-state politicians u even though swing-state politicians are
    indispensable to party control. The single-party partisans tell us >>>>>> what it means to be a orealo Republican or a orealo Democrat and often >>>>>> despise the rare politicians from their own party who can win on
    hostile ground. TheyAre the squishes, after all.

    Politics is always vulnerable to corruption, but single-party rule can >>>>>> be a virtual petri dish for favoritism and graft. We all know that >>>>>> institutions tend to be terrible at policing themselves, and when one >>>>>> party possesses complete control, it is rarely as vigilant at
    punishing its own as it is at pummeling the other side.

    Even swing states arenAt immune from the maladies of one-party rule. >>>>>> The states themselves are often carved up into one-party enclaves. >>>>>>
    President Trump is perhaps the ultimate example of what one-party rule >>>>>> in a two-party nation can produce. While he governs for himself (as >>>>>> many one-party politicians do), heAs also vicious and vengeful to the >>>>>> other side, and so long as he keeps attacking the hated Democratic >>>>>> foe, his party will gladly cover for his corruption and graft.

    But if the Democrats challenge Trump with the products of their own >>>>>> one-party rule, with a candidate who canAt even begin to speak the >>>>>> language of the swing voter, much less the language of the disaffected >>>>>> Republican, then weAre setting ourselves up for yet another lurch back >>>>>> to the competing extreme.

    There is no easy way for Americans to change this dynamic. But perhaps >>>>>> u just perhaps u we can start by turning to those politicians whoAve >>>>>> proven that theyAre culturally and politically bilingual. They can win >>>>>> on hostile (or purple) ground. One can think of Andy Beshear, the
    governor of Kentucky, or Josh Shapiro, the governor of Pennsylvania. >>>>>> On the Republican side, I can still remember when Charlie Baker, as >>>>>> governor of Massachusetts, was by some counts the most popular
    governor in America. In 2022, he recorded a stunning 74 percent
    approval rating.

    All of these politicians, though, suffer from the same vulnerability. >>>>>> The partisan base can believe theyAre weak, that theyAre not real
    Democrats or Republicans, mere DINOs or RINOs. But a party shouldnAt >>>>>> be defined by its most zealous ideologues. Why would a progressive in >>>>>> Brooklyn be a more authentic representative of the Democratic Party >>>>>> than a moderate in Tennessee? The same analysis applies to
    Republicans. You are not more Republican the more guns you own or the >>>>>> more often you go to church u that makes you a type of Republican, but >>>>>> not the ideal form.

    There are many, many Republicans, for example, who will rejoice if >>>>>> Susan Collins loses in Maine. She voted to convict Trump, and which >>>>>> real Republican would do that? There should be no such thing as the >>>>>> model ideological candidate.

    To quote the Apostle Paul in 1 Corinthians, one body has many parts, >>>>>> and othe eye cannot say to the hand, aI donAt need you!A And the head >>>>>> cannot say to the feet, aI donAt need you!Ao The parties need
    ideological diversity. Groupthink is dangerous, no matter where it is >>>>>> found.

    IAd like to end a rather bleak newsletter with a dash of optimism. As >>>>>> the Gallup poll indicates, present trends cannot continue forever. If >>>>>> the number of independents continues to grow, and the share of
    partisans continues to shrink, the present system will grow more
    unstable. A diminishing percentage of Americans will not be able to >>>>>> hold the same amount of power.

    One-party rule can look imposing, but it is often fragile. It wasnAt >>>>>> that long ago, for example, when there was a different kind of
    one-party rule in the South, and then it shifted from Democratic to >>>>>> Republican. It wasnAt that long ago that California was a swing state, >>>>>> or that Iowa was briefly part of the Democratic PartyAs blue wall. >>>>>>
    It might take time u far too much time u but when the single party >>>>>> fails, eventually the dormant second party revives, the logjam breaks >>>>>> and the system resets. But until then our one-party politics is
    undermining our two-party system, and our competition is reduced to >>>>>> determining which broken party will prevail.

    dissolve the senate, it was just a needless check on actual democracy >>>>>
    reform the executive presidency into an executive council (5 reps from 3 >>>>> parties: 2,2,1) requiring consensus decision making where each can vote >>>>> pass/neg/block - majority to pass, no blocking votes

    Shared power has been tried a number of times since the romans tried
    it first. So far it has not worked well.

    i'm literally just recommending what is currently working out well in
    switzerland

    and there no division of territory here, they are not ruling and making
    decrees from different locations like the romans tried several times in
    their later stages. they deliberating as a council until consensus with
    each other is reached, and any one of them can block a policy entirely.

    This is pertinent. Rome conquered more territory than it could
    reasonably administer. It also helps that switz is a small country.
    Small countries tend to enjoy greater social cohesion.

    switzerland has 3 official languages because it's split into 3 regions
    with different dominate languages, even today. and up until modern
    tunnel boring the country was rather difficult to traverse.

    Still they do know they are all swiss.


    So, rather than solving the towering ambition problem, they have
    avoided it by having leaders that lack that characteristic.

    Not a solution to the underlying issue. And for them, likely not a
    long term solution. Sure you might beat the odds and find 3 good guys
    once. What are the odds then, of doing that again next time?

    it's 5: 2 from the top party, 2 from the second party, and 1 from a
    third. and they can only pass policy with consensus. i don't know how
    this remove the problem of ambition ... it's a structural shift in the >requirements to pass policy

    Historically the many will devolve to 1. I suspect, in the absence of deliberate blockage, some 1 will emerge. So far nobody, as far as I
    know, has succeeded in devising such a deliberate unbreachable
    blockage, which means, so far this arrangement has never succeeded for
    long.

    u can't just elect one dumbfuck into power and give everyone else the
    run around, u have five from three different voting blocks, and so it >requires putting in people who can actually deliberate


    The problem that govt's mostly fail to address is what to do with
    people with towering ambition? Lock them up and allow them no access
    to media?
    --
    Noah Sombrero mustachioed villain
    Don't get political with me young man
    or I'll tie you to a railroad track and
    <<<talk>>> to <<<YOOooooo>>>
    Who dares to talk to El Sombrero?
    dares: Ned
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  • From Noah Sombrero@fedora@fea.st to alt.buddha.short.fat.guy on Fri Jun 26 00:18:02 2026
    From Newsgroup: alt.buddha.short.fat.guy

    On Thu, 25 Jun 2026 20:36:51 -0700, Dude <punditster@gmail.com> wrote:

    On 6/25/2026 3:44 PM, dart200 wrote:
    On 6/25/26 9:35 AM, Noah Sombrero wrote:
    On Wed, 24 Jun 2026 21:40:10 -0700, dart200
    <user7160@newsgrouper.org.invalid> wrote:

    On 6/24/26 9:17 PM, Noah Sombrero wrote:
    On Wed, 24 Jun 2026 20:39:28 -0700, dart200
    <user7160@newsgrouper.org.invalid> wrote:

    On 6/24/26 7:51 PM, Noah Sombrero wrote:

    NY Times,

    June 24, 2026

    Why does our seemingly competitive two-party system produce so much >>>>>>> stagnation and corruption?

    because a duopoly isn't competition,

    and because it's actually one club of people: oligarchs


    By David French

    ThereAs a line from a speech that I keep thinking about.

    I wrote about it last month. Shane Massey, the Republican majority >>>>>>> leader in the South Carolina Senate, spoke against a Trump-inspired >>>>>>> plan to redistrict the state.

    oI will tell my Republican friends: Republicans are stronger when the >>>>>>> Democrat Party is vibrant and viable,o Massey said. oWe are.
    Competition makes you better, yAall.o

    IAm reminded of a conversation I had many years ago with a friend who >>>>>>> was then a senior executive at McDonaldAs (my favorite restaurant). >>>>>>
    (imagine ur favorite restaurant being mcdonalds ?)

    When we spoke it was obvious that McDonaldAs had decisively won the >>>>>>> burger wars, and that its chief competitors, Burger King and WendyAs, >>>>>>> were no longer threats to dislodge Ronald McDonald from the Throne of >>>>>>> Fries.

    I asked him if there was a sense of satisfaction at the company, and >>>>>>> his response surprised me. oI have mixed feelings,o he said. oWe were >>>>>>> a great company when the competition was intense.o

    The innovation and energy required to stave off a challenger was >>>>>>> invigorating and perhaps most crucially, it staved off stagnation. >>>>>>>
    So why isnAt this happening in American politics? Our nation has two >>>>>>> parties of near-identical size and power, at least in theory. Control >>>>>>> of the national government routinely flips back and forth, and even >>>>>>> when one side wins full control its margins of victory are extremely >>>>>>> narrow.

    And yet, instead of creating innovation and energy, our political >>>>>>> competition seems to be yielding stagnation and corruption. I donAt >>>>>>> believe that stagnation and corruption exist equally on both sides of >>>>>>> the aisle, but itAs hard to find anyone who believes the Democratic >>>>>>> Party is healthy and vibrant, especially after two losses to Donald >>>>>>> Trump.

    Even if the two parties arenAt equally corrupt, they do share a
    different common characteristic: TheyAre equally repulsive to the >>>>>>> public.

    A Gallup poll in January found that 45 percent of Americans identify >>>>>>> as independents, a record since Gallup began regular polling in 1988. >>>>>>> Equal percentages of adults, 27 percent, identify as Republicans >>>>>>> or as
    Democrats.

    This doesnAt mean that neither side can win. When the public is
    disgusted with the current leadership, it has but one other
    alternative. Many voters are voting against incumbents more than >>>>>>> theyAre endorsing their challengers.

    If the competition between McDonaldAs and Burger King gave us tastier >>>>>>> fries, somehow the competition between Republicans and Democrats is >>>>>>> giving us rotten politics.

    But what if we donAt actually have a competitive two-party system? >>>>>>> What if our nation actually has two one-party systems, instead? >>>>>>> And if
    the United States has two one-party systems, then that means that >>>>>>> each
    way they turn voters are confronted with the arrogance, stagnation >>>>>>> and
    corruption that almost always disfigures single-party rule.

    The best illustration of this reality is found in state government >>>>>>> otrifectas.o ThatAs the term for a state where one party controls the >>>>>>> governorAs mansion and both houses of the state legislature. As of >>>>>>> this month, there are 23 Republican trifectas and 16 Democratic ones. >>>>>>> That leaves 11 states with divided governments.

    Republicans may govern more states, but Democratic states tend to be >>>>>>> more populous. As a result, a roughly equal percentage of Americans >>>>>>> live under total red or blue rule. As of January, 39.1 percent of >>>>>>> Americans lived in blue trifecta states, and 41.5 percent lived in >>>>>>> red
    trifecta states, which means that less than 20 percent of the
    population lives in a divided state.

    Combine trifecta state control with aggressive partisan gerrymanders, >>>>>>> and you have exactly the situation in Congress that my colleague Tom >>>>>>> Edsall described this week: oAn overwhelming majority of House
    members
    run in districts that are safe in the general election, where the >>>>>>> only
    threat to an incumbent is from a more ideologically extreme
    challenger
    in the primary.o

    Another way of putting it is that the other side is so weak in so >>>>>>> many
    states and congressional districts that politicians can build entire >>>>>>> careers without having to appeal to voters on the other side of the >>>>>>> aisle.

    For example, even in a year of remarkable public discontent, in which >>>>>>> the House may well change hands, the vast majority of members of >>>>>>> Congress are completely safe. The Cook Political Report lists 186 >>>>>>> districts as solid Republican and 182 districts as solid Democrat. >>>>>>> There are only 18 tossup races. If you add in the 20 races that >>>>>>> merely
    lean in one direction or the other, that gives you a grand total >>>>>>> of 38
    competitive races in a 435-member House of Representatives.

    As a result, one-party politicians are often born in the partiesA >>>>>>> bases and inept at reaching anyone even a few inches to their
    ideological right or left. In fact, the very effort to reach out to >>>>>>> the opposition is usually interpreted as weakness, a misguided
    compromise against an uncompromising foe.

    The art of compromise vanishes before our eyes. After all,
    generations
    of politicians now come from the roughly 80 percent of the country >>>>>>> where compromise is almost always unnecessary. Compromises are
    internal only, as the party negotiates with itself. The opposition >>>>>>> might as well not exist.

    The partisan majority in a single-party state will often radicalize. >>>>>>> As IAve explained before, the law of group polarization suggests that >>>>>>> when like-minded people deliberate, they tend to become more extreme. >>>>>>> Red bubbles get redder, Blue bubbles get bluer.

    ItAs not just that the two sides separate ideologically. They also >>>>>>> develop very different political cultures u to the extent that each >>>>>>> side is completely convinced that the other side is just, well, >>>>>>> weird.
    Our nation is full of radicalized people who donAt fully understand >>>>>>> that theyAre radical because everyone they know agrees with
    everything
    they say.

    IAve heard Republicans and Democrats use exactly the same oStar Warso >>>>>>> reference to describe the other side. TheyAll say the other sideAs >>>>>>> convention, for example, is like the Mos Eisley Cantina, the bar in >>>>>>> oStar Warso filled with bizarre creatures from across the galaxy. >>>>>>>
    Compounding the problem, the sheer size of the red and blue trifectas >>>>>>> mean that they define the nature of the respective parties, not
    swing-state politicians u even though swing-state politicians are >>>>>>> indispensable to party control. The single-party partisans tell us >>>>>>> what it means to be a orealo Republican or a orealo Democrat and >>>>>>> often
    despise the rare politicians from their own party who can win on >>>>>>> hostile ground. TheyAre the squishes, after all.

    Politics is always vulnerable to corruption, but single-party rule >>>>>>> can
    be a virtual petri dish for favoritism and graft. We all know that >>>>>>> institutions tend to be terrible at policing themselves, and when one >>>>>>> party possesses complete control, it is rarely as vigilant at
    punishing its own as it is at pummeling the other side.

    Even swing states arenAt immune from the maladies of one-party rule. >>>>>>> The states themselves are often carved up into one-party enclaves. >>>>>>>
    President Trump is perhaps the ultimate example of what one-party >>>>>>> rule
    in a two-party nation can produce. While he governs for himself (as >>>>>>> many one-party politicians do), heAs also vicious and vengeful to the >>>>>>> other side, and so long as he keeps attacking the hated Democratic >>>>>>> foe, his party will gladly cover for his corruption and graft.

    But if the Democrats challenge Trump with the products of their own >>>>>>> one-party rule, with a candidate who canAt even begin to speak the >>>>>>> language of the swing voter, much less the language of the
    disaffected
    Republican, then weAre setting ourselves up for yet another lurch >>>>>>> back
    to the competing extreme.

    There is no easy way for Americans to change this dynamic. But
    perhaps
    u just perhaps u we can start by turning to those politicians whoAve >>>>>>> proven that theyAre culturally and politically bilingual. They can >>>>>>> win
    on hostile (or purple) ground. One can think of Andy Beshear, the >>>>>>> governor of Kentucky, or Josh Shapiro, the governor of Pennsylvania. >>>>>>> On the Republican side, I can still remember when Charlie Baker, as >>>>>>> governor of Massachusetts, was by some counts the most popular
    governor in America. In 2022, he recorded a stunning 74 percent
    approval rating.

    All of these politicians, though, suffer from the same vulnerability. >>>>>>> The partisan base can believe theyAre weak, that theyAre not real >>>>>>> Democrats or Republicans, mere DINOs or RINOs. But a party shouldnAt >>>>>>> be defined by its most zealous ideologues. Why would a progressive in >>>>>>> Brooklyn be a more authentic representative of the Democratic Party >>>>>>> than a moderate in Tennessee? The same analysis applies to
    Republicans. You are not more Republican the more guns you own or the >>>>>>> more often you go to church u that makes you a type of Republican, >>>>>>> but
    not the ideal form.

    There are many, many Republicans, for example, who will rejoice if >>>>>>> Susan Collins loses in Maine. She voted to convict Trump, and which >>>>>>> real Republican would do that? There should be no such thing as the >>>>>>> model ideological candidate.

    To quote the Apostle Paul in 1 Corinthians, one body has many parts, >>>>>>> and othe eye cannot say to the hand, aI donAt need you!A And the head >>>>>>> cannot say to the feet, aI donAt need you!Ao The parties need
    ideological diversity. Groupthink is dangerous, no matter where it is >>>>>>> found.

    IAd like to end a rather bleak newsletter with a dash of optimism. As >>>>>>> the Gallup poll indicates, present trends cannot continue forever. If >>>>>>> the number of independents continues to grow, and the share of
    partisans continues to shrink, the present system will grow more >>>>>>> unstable. A diminishing percentage of Americans will not be able to >>>>>>> hold the same amount of power.

    One-party rule can look imposing, but it is often fragile. It wasnAt >>>>>>> that long ago, for example, when there was a different kind of
    one-party rule in the South, and then it shifted from Democratic to >>>>>>> Republican. It wasnAt that long ago that California was a swing >>>>>>> state,
    or that Iowa was briefly part of the Democratic PartyAs blue wall. >>>>>>>
    It might take time u far too much time u but when the single party >>>>>>> fails, eventually the dormant second party revives, the logjam breaks >>>>>>> and the system resets. But until then our one-party politics is
    undermining our two-party system, and our competition is reduced to >>>>>>> determining which broken party will prevail.

    dissolve the senate, it was just a needless check on actual democracy >>>>>>
    reform the executive presidency into an executive council (5 reps >>>>>> from 3
    parties: 2,2,1) requiring consensus decision making where each can >>>>>> vote
    pass/neg/block - majority to pass, no blocking votes

    Shared power has been tried a number of times since the romans tried >>>>> it first.a So far it has not worked well.

    i'm literally just recommending what is currently working out well in
    switzerland

    and there no division of territory here, they are not ruling and making >>>> decrees from different locations like the romans tried several times in >>>> their later stages. they deliberating as a council until consensus with >>>> each other is reached, and any one of them can block a policy entirely. >>>
    This is pertinent.a Rome conquered more territory than it could
    reasonably administer.a It also helps that switz is a small country.
    Small countries tend to enjoy greater social cohesion.

    switzerland has 3 official languages because it's split into 3 regions
    with different dominate languages, even today. and up until modern
    tunnel boring the country was rather difficult to traverse.


    So, rather than solving the towering ambition problem, they have
    avoided it by having leaders that lack that characteristic.

    Not a solution to the underlying issue.a And for them, likely not a
    long term solution.a Sure you might beat the odds and find 3 good guys
    once.a What are the odds then, of doing that again next time?

    it's 5: 2 from the top party, 2 from the second party, and 1 from a
    third. and they can only pass policy with consensus. i don't know how
    this remove the problem of ambition ... it's a structural shift in the
    requirements to pass policy

    u can't just elect one dumbfuck into power and give everyone else the
    run around, u have five from three different voting blocks, and so it
    requires putting in people who can actually deliberate

    It kind of looks like Nick top-posted and changed the subject from the >burger war, to the oligarchs in Russia, then changed the subject again
    to Switzerland following Noah's assertion that the Romans did it and so
    Nick cross-posted to alt.messianic.

    I see no such manipulations. The subject remains burger war. I don't
    care guys make it whatever you like.

    Since they both ignored my post, I'm interjecting it again:

    Apparently the reason Switzerland is so successful because it's a >Libertarian free market mix of social and cultural conservatism with
    strong economic and political liberalism.

    And I asserted and still assert that:

    That must make you feel good. But it does not explain dart's
    assertion.

    Which you have ignored.

    "Swiss conservatism is generally cautious and traditional (resisting
    rapid changes), while its liberalism favors free-market economics,
    robust civil liberties, and the world's most extensive system of direct >democracy." - Wikipedia



    The problem that govt's mostly fail to address is what to do with
    people with towering ambition?a Lock them up and allow them no access >>>>> to media?

    --
    Noah Sombrero mustachioed villain
    Don't get political with me young man
    or I'll tie you to a railroad track and
    <<<talk>>> to <<<YOOooooo>>>
    Who dares to talk to El Sombrero?
    dares: Ned
    does not dare: Julian shrinks in horror and warns others away

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  • From Noah Sombrero@fedora@fea.st to alt.buddha.short.fat.guy on Fri Jun 26 00:18:56 2026
    From Newsgroup: alt.buddha.short.fat.guy

    On Thu, 25 Jun 2026 18:56:10 -0700, Dude <punditster@gmail.com> wrote:

    On 6/25/2026 9:42 AM, Noah Sombrero wrote:
    On Thu, 25 Jun 2026 08:58:42 -0700, Dude <punditster@gmail.com> wrote:

    On 6/24/2026 8:39 PM, dart200 wrote:
    On 6/24/26 7:51 PM, Noah Sombrero wrote:

    NY Times,

    June 24, 2026

    Why does our seemingly competitive two-party system produce so much
    stagnation and corruption?

    because a duopoly isn't competition,

    A top-poster now, eh?

    and because it's actually one club of people: oligarchs

    Yes. I think that's what David French wrote, except he left out the word >>> "oligarchs" - probably because he does not write biased opinions that
    confuse his readers. Oligarchs are in Russia - there's no parties - it"s >>> an oligarchy.

    Very good point. You have actually forfeited any right to call that
    article propaganda. Are you ok with that?

    Nick is the informant that called the article propaganda by inserting
    the word "oligarch" in a top post. I'm not OK with that. YMMV.\

    Tough. Mommies are good for consoling such ouchies.




    By David French

    ThereAs a line from a speech that I keep thinking about.

    I wrote about it last month. Shane Massey, the Republican majority
    leader in the South Carolina Senate, spoke against a Trump-inspired
    plan to redistrict the state.

    oI will tell my Republican friends: Republicans are stronger when the >>>>> Democrat Party is vibrant and viable,o Massey said. oWe are.
    Competition makes you better, yAall.o

    IAm reminded of a conversation I had many years ago with a friend who >>>>> was then a senior executive at McDonaldAs (my favorite restaurant).

    (imagine ur favorite restaurant being mcdonalds ?)

    When we spoke it was obvious that McDonaldAs had decisively won the
    burger wars, and that its chief competitors, Burger King and WendyAs, >>>>> were no longer threats to dislodge Ronald McDonald from the Throne of >>>>> Fries.

    I asked him if there was a sense of satisfaction at the company, and >>>>> his response surprised me. oI have mixed feelings,o he said. oWe were >>>>> a great company when the competition was intense.o

    The innovation and energy required to stave off a challenger was
    invigorating and perhaps most crucially, it staved off stagnation.

    So why isnAt this happening in American politics? Our nation has two >>>>> parties of near-identical size and power, at least in theory. Control >>>>> of the national government routinely flips back and forth, and even
    when one side wins full control its margins of victory are extremely >>>>> narrow.

    And yet, instead of creating innovation and energy, our political
    competition seems to be yielding stagnation and corruption. I donAt
    believe that stagnation and corruption exist equally on both sides of >>>>> the aisle, but itAs hard to find anyone who believes the Democratic
    Party is healthy and vibrant, especially after two losses to Donald
    Trump.

    Even if the two parties arenAt equally corrupt, they do share a
    different common characteristic: TheyAre equally repulsive to the
    public.

    A Gallup poll in January found that 45 percent of Americans identify >>>>> as independents, a record since Gallup began regular polling in 1988. >>>>> Equal percentages of adults, 27 percent, identify as Republicans or as >>>>> Democrats.

    This doesnAt mean that neither side can win. When the public is
    disgusted with the current leadership, it has but one other
    alternative. Many voters are voting against incumbents more than
    theyAre endorsing their challengers.

    If the competition between McDonaldAs and Burger King gave us tastier >>>>> fries, somehow the competition between Republicans and Democrats is
    giving us rotten politics.

    But what if we donAt actually have a competitive two-party system?
    What if our nation actually has two one-party systems, instead? And if >>>>> the United States has two one-party systems, then that means that each >>>>> way they turn voters are confronted with the arrogance, stagnation and >>>>> corruption that almost always disfigures single-party rule.

    The best illustration of this reality is found in state government
    otrifectas.o ThatAs the term for a state where one party controls the >>>>> governorAs mansion and both houses of the state legislature. As of
    this month, there are 23 Republican trifectas and 16 Democratic ones. >>>>> That leaves 11 states with divided governments.

    Republicans may govern more states, but Democratic states tend to be >>>>> more populous. As a result, a roughly equal percentage of Americans
    live under total red or blue rule. As of January, 39.1 percent of
    Americans lived in blue trifecta states, and 41.5 percent lived in red >>>>> trifecta states, which means that less than 20 percent of the
    population lives in a divided state.

    Combine trifecta state control with aggressive partisan gerrymanders, >>>>> and you have exactly the situation in Congress that my colleague Tom >>>>> Edsall described this week: oAn overwhelming majority of House members >>>>> run in districts that are safe in the general election, where the only >>>>> threat to an incumbent is from a more ideologically extreme challenger >>>>> in the primary.o

    Another way of putting it is that the other side is so weak in so many >>>>> states and congressional districts that politicians can build entire >>>>> careers without having to appeal to voters on the other side of the
    aisle.

    For example, even in a year of remarkable public discontent, in which >>>>> the House may well change hands, the vast majority of members of
    Congress are completely safe. The Cook Political Report lists 186
    districts as solid Republican and 182 districts as solid Democrat.
    There are only 18 tossup races. If you add in the 20 races that merely >>>>> lean in one direction or the other, that gives you a grand total of 38 >>>>> competitive races in a 435-member House of Representatives.

    As a result, one-party politicians are often born in the partiesA
    bases and inept at reaching anyone even a few inches to their
    ideological right or left. In fact, the very effort to reach out to
    the opposition is usually interpreted as weakness, a misguided
    compromise against an uncompromising foe.

    The art of compromise vanishes before our eyes. After all, generations >>>>> of politicians now come from the roughly 80 percent of the country
    where compromise is almost always unnecessary. Compromises are
    internal only, as the party negotiates with itself. The opposition
    might as well not exist.

    The partisan majority in a single-party state will often radicalize. >>>>> As IAve explained before, the law of group polarization suggests that >>>>> when like-minded people deliberate, they tend to become more extreme. >>>>> Red bubbles get redder, Blue bubbles get bluer.

    ItAs not just that the two sides separate ideologically. They also
    develop very different political cultures u to the extent that each
    side is completely convinced that the other side is just, well, weird. >>>>> Our nation is full of radicalized people who donAt fully understand
    that theyAre radical because everyone they know agrees with everything >>>>> they say.

    IAve heard Republicans and Democrats use exactly the same oStar Warso >>>>> reference to describe the other side. TheyAll say the other sideAs
    convention, for example, is like the Mos Eisley Cantina, the bar in
    oStar Warso filled with bizarre creatures from across the galaxy.

    Compounding the problem, the sheer size of the red and blue trifectas >>>>> mean that they define the nature of the respective parties, not
    swing-state politicians u even though swing-state politicians are
    indispensable to party control. The single-party partisans tell us
    what it means to be a orealo Republican or a orealo Democrat and often >>>>> despise the rare politicians from their own party who can win on
    hostile ground. TheyAre the squishes, after all.

    Politics is always vulnerable to corruption, but single-party rule can >>>>> be a virtual petri dish for favoritism and graft. We all know that
    institutions tend to be terrible at policing themselves, and when one >>>>> party possesses complete control, it is rarely as vigilant at
    punishing its own as it is at pummeling the other side.

    Even swing states arenAt immune from the maladies of one-party rule. >>>>> The states themselves are often carved up into one-party enclaves.

    President Trump is perhaps the ultimate example of what one-party rule >>>>> in a two-party nation can produce. While he governs for himself (as
    many one-party politicians do), heAs also vicious and vengeful to the >>>>> other side, and so long as he keeps attacking the hated Democratic
    foe, his party will gladly cover for his corruption and graft.

    But if the Democrats challenge Trump with the products of their own
    one-party rule, with a candidate who canAt even begin to speak the
    language of the swing voter, much less the language of the disaffected >>>>> Republican, then weAre setting ourselves up for yet another lurch back >>>>> to the competing extreme.

    There is no easy way for Americans to change this dynamic. But perhaps >>>>> u just perhaps u we can start by turning to those politicians whoAve >>>>> proven that theyAre culturally and politically bilingual. They can win >>>>> on hostile (or purple) ground. One can think of Andy Beshear, the
    governor of Kentucky, or Josh Shapiro, the governor of Pennsylvania. >>>>> On the Republican side, I can still remember when Charlie Baker, as
    governor of Massachusetts, was by some counts the most popular
    governor in America. In 2022, he recorded a stunning 74 percent
    approval rating.

    All of these politicians, though, suffer from the same vulnerability. >>>>> The partisan base can believe theyAre weak, that theyAre not real
    Democrats or Republicans, mere DINOs or RINOs. But a party shouldnAt >>>>> be defined by its most zealous ideologues. Why would a progressive in >>>>> Brooklyn be a more authentic representative of the Democratic Party
    than a moderate in Tennessee? The same analysis applies to
    Republicans. You are not more Republican the more guns you own or the >>>>> more often you go to church u that makes you a type of Republican, but >>>>> not the ideal form.

    There are many, many Republicans, for example, who will rejoice if
    Susan Collins loses in Maine. She voted to convict Trump, and which
    real Republican would do that? There should be no such thing as the
    model ideological candidate.

    To quote the Apostle Paul in 1 Corinthians, one body has many parts, >>>>> and othe eye cannot say to the hand, aI donAt need you!A And the head >>>>> cannot say to the feet, aI donAt need you!Ao The parties need
    ideological diversity. Groupthink is dangerous, no matter where it is >>>>> found.

    IAd like to end a rather bleak newsletter with a dash of optimism. As >>>>> the Gallup poll indicates, present trends cannot continue forever. If >>>>> the number of independents continues to grow, and the share of
    partisans continues to shrink, the present system will grow more
    unstable. A diminishing percentage of Americans will not be able to
    hold the same amount of power.

    One-party rule can look imposing, but it is often fragile. It wasnAt >>>>> that long ago, for example, when there was a different kind of
    one-party rule in the South, and then it shifted from Democratic to
    Republican. It wasnAt that long ago that California was a swing state, >>>>> or that Iowa was briefly part of the Democratic PartyAs blue wall.

    It might take time u far too much time u but when the single party
    fails, eventually the dormant second party revives, the logjam breaks >>>>> and the system resets. But until then our one-party politics is
    undermining our two-party system, and our competition is reduced to
    determining which broken party will prevail.

    dissolve the senate, it was just a needless check on actual democracy

    reform the executive presidency into an executive council (5 reps from 3 >>>> parties: 2,2,1) requiring consensus decision making where each can vote >>>> pass/neg/block - majority to pass, no blocking votes

    --
    Noah Sombrero mustachioed villain
    Don't get political with me young man
    or I'll tie you to a railroad track and
    <<<talk>>> to <<<YOOooooo>>>
    Who dares to talk to El Sombrero?
    dares: Ned
    does not dare: Julian shrinks in horror and warns others away

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  • From Wilson@Wilson@nowhere.invalid to alt.buddha.short.fat.guy on Fri Jun 26 12:30:57 2026
    From Newsgroup: alt.buddha.short.fat.guy

    On 6/24/2026 10:51 PM, Noah Sombrero wrote:

    NY Times,

    June 24, 2026

    Why does our seemingly competitive two-party system produce so much stagnation and corruption?

    By David French

    ThererCOs a line from a speech that I keep thinking about.

    I wrote about it last month. Shane Massey, the Republican majority
    leader in the South Carolina Senate, spoke against a Trump-inspired
    plan to redistrict the state.

    rCLI will tell my Republican friends: Republicans are stronger when the Democrat Party is vibrant and viable,rCY Massey said. rCLWe are.
    Competition makes you better, yrCOall.rCY

    IrCOm reminded of a conversation I had many years ago with a friend who
    was then a senior executive at McDonaldrCOs (my favorite restaurant).
    When we spoke it was obvious that McDonaldrCOs had decisively won the
    burger wars, and that its chief competitors, Burger King and WendyrCOs,
    were no longer threats to dislodge Ronald McDonald from the Throne of
    Fries.

    I asked him if there was a sense of satisfaction at the company, and
    his response surprised me. rCLI have mixed feelings,rCY he said. rCLWe were
    a great company when the competition was intense.rCY

    The innovation and energy required to stave off a challenger was
    invigorating and perhaps most crucially, it staved off stagnation.

    So why isnrCOt this happening in American politics? Our nation has two parties of near-identical size and power, at least in theory. Control
    of the national government routinely flips back and forth, and even
    when one side wins full control its margins of victory are extremely
    narrow.

    And yet, instead of creating innovation and energy, our political
    competition seems to be yielding stagnation and corruption. I donrCOt
    believe that stagnation and corruption exist equally on both sides of
    the aisle, but itrCOs hard to find anyone who believes the Democratic
    Party is healthy and vibrant, especially after two losses to Donald
    Trump.

    Even if the two parties arenrCOt equally corrupt, they do share a
    different common characteristic: TheyrCOre equally repulsive to the
    public.

    A Gallup poll in January found that 45 percent of Americans identify
    as independents, a record since Gallup began regular polling in 1988.
    Equal percentages of adults, 27 percent, identify as Republicans or as Democrats.

    This doesnrCOt mean that neither side can win. When the public is
    disgusted with the current leadership, it has but one other
    alternative. Many voters are voting against incumbents more than
    theyrCOre endorsing their challengers.

    If the competition between McDonaldrCOs and Burger King gave us tastier fries, somehow the competition between Republicans and Democrats is
    giving us rotten politics.

    But what if we donrCOt actually have a competitive two-party system?
    What if our nation actually has two one-party systems, instead? And if
    the United States has two one-party systems, then that means that each
    way they turn voters are confronted with the arrogance, stagnation and corruption that almost always disfigures single-party rule.

    The best illustration of this reality is found in state government rCLtrifectas.rCY ThatrCOs the term for a state where one party controls the governorrCOs mansion and both houses of the state legislature. As of
    this month, there are 23 Republican trifectas and 16 Democratic ones.
    That leaves 11 states with divided governments.

    Republicans may govern more states, but Democratic states tend to be
    more populous. As a result, a roughly equal percentage of Americans
    live under total red or blue rule. As of January, 39.1 percent of
    Americans lived in blue trifecta states, and 41.5 percent lived in red trifecta states, which means that less than 20 percent of the
    population lives in a divided state.

    Combine trifecta state control with aggressive partisan gerrymanders,
    and you have exactly the situation in Congress that my colleague Tom
    Edsall described this week: rCLAn overwhelming majority of House members
    run in districts that are safe in the general election, where the only
    threat to an incumbent is from a more ideologically extreme challenger
    in the primary.rCY

    Another way of putting it is that the other side is so weak in so many
    states and congressional districts that politicians can build entire
    careers without having to appeal to voters on the other side of the
    aisle.

    For example, even in a year of remarkable public discontent, in which
    the House may well change hands, the vast majority of members of
    Congress are completely safe. The Cook Political Report lists 186
    districts as solid Republican and 182 districts as solid Democrat.
    There are only 18 tossup races. If you add in the 20 races that merely
    lean in one direction or the other, that gives you a grand total of 38 competitive races in a 435-member House of Representatives.

    As a result, one-party politicians are often born in the partiesrCO
    bases and inept at reaching anyone even a few inches to their
    ideological right or left. In fact, the very effort to reach out to
    the opposition is usually interpreted as weakness, a misguided
    compromise against an uncompromising foe.

    The art of compromise vanishes before our eyes. After all, generations
    of politicians now come from the roughly 80 percent of the country
    where compromise is almost always unnecessary. Compromises are
    internal only, as the party negotiates with itself. The opposition
    might as well not exist.

    The partisan majority in a single-party state will often radicalize.
    As IrCOve explained before, the law of group polarization suggests that
    when like-minded people deliberate, they tend to become more extreme.
    Red bubbles get redder, Blue bubbles get bluer.

    ItrCOs not just that the two sides separate ideologically. They also
    develop very different political cultures rCo to the extent that each
    side is completely convinced that the other side is just, well, weird.
    Our nation is full of radicalized people who donrCOt fully understand
    that theyrCOre radical because everyone they know agrees with everything
    they say.

    IrCOve heard Republicans and Democrats use exactly the same rCLStar WarsrCY reference to describe the other side. TheyrCOll say the other siderCOs convention, for example, is like the Mos Eisley Cantina, the bar in
    rCLStar WarsrCY filled with bizarre creatures from across the galaxy.

    Compounding the problem, the sheer size of the red and blue trifectas
    mean that they define the nature of the respective parties, not
    swing-state politicians rCo even though swing-state politicians are indispensable to party control. The single-party partisans tell us
    what it means to be a rCLrealrCY Republican or a rCLrealrCY Democrat and often
    despise the rare politicians from their own party who can win on
    hostile ground. TheyrCOre the squishes, after all.

    Politics is always vulnerable to corruption, but single-party rule can
    be a virtual petri dish for favoritism and graft. We all know that institutions tend to be terrible at policing themselves, and when one
    party possesses complete control, it is rarely as vigilant at
    punishing its own as it is at pummeling the other side.

    Even swing states arenrCOt immune from the maladies of one-party rule.
    The states themselves are often carved up into one-party enclaves.

    President Trump is perhaps the ultimate example of what one-party rule
    in a two-party nation can produce. While he governs for himself (as
    many one-party politicians do), herCOs also vicious and vengeful to the
    other side, and so long as he keeps attacking the hated Democratic
    foe, his party will gladly cover for his corruption and graft.

    But if the Democrats challenge Trump with the products of their own
    one-party rule, with a candidate who canrCOt even begin to speak the
    language of the swing voter, much less the language of the disaffected Republican, then werCOre setting ourselves up for yet another lurch back
    to the competing extreme.

    There is no easy way for Americans to change this dynamic. But perhaps
    rCo just perhaps rCo we can start by turning to those politicians whorCOve proven that theyrCOre culturally and politically bilingual. They can win
    on hostile (or purple) ground. One can think of Andy Beshear, the
    governor of Kentucky, or Josh Shapiro, the governor of Pennsylvania.
    On the Republican side, I can still remember when Charlie Baker, as
    governor of Massachusetts, was by some counts the most popular
    governor in America. In 2022, he recorded a stunning 74 percent
    approval rating.

    All of these politicians, though, suffer from the same vulnerability.
    The partisan base can believe theyrCOre weak, that theyrCOre not real Democrats or Republicans, mere DINOs or RINOs. But a party shouldnrCOt
    be defined by its most zealous ideologues. Why would a progressive in Brooklyn be a more authentic representative of the Democratic Party
    than a moderate in Tennessee? The same analysis applies to
    Republicans. You are not more Republican the more guns you own or the
    more often you go to church rCo that makes you a type of Republican, but
    not the ideal form.

    There are many, many Republicans, for example, who will rejoice if
    Susan Collins loses in Maine. She voted to convict Trump, and which
    real Republican would do that? There should be no such thing as the
    model ideological candidate.

    To quote the Apostle Paul in 1 Corinthians, one body has many parts,
    and rCLthe eye cannot say to the hand, rCyI donrCOt need you!rCO And the head cannot say to the feet, rCyI donrCOt need you!rCOrCY The parties need ideological diversity. Groupthink is dangerous, no matter where it is
    found.

    IrCOd like to end a rather bleak newsletter with a dash of optimism. As
    the Gallup poll indicates, present trends cannot continue forever. If
    the number of independents continues to grow, and the share of
    partisans continues to shrink, the present system will grow more
    unstable. A diminishing percentage of Americans will not be able to
    hold the same amount of power.

    One-party rule can look imposing, but it is often fragile. It wasnrCOt
    that long ago, for example, when there was a different kind of
    one-party rule in the South, and then it shifted from Democratic to Republican. It wasnrCOt that long ago that California was a swing state,
    or that Iowa was briefly part of the Democratic PartyrCOs blue wall.

    It might take time rCo far too much time rCo but when the single party
    fails, eventually the dormant second party revives, the logjam breaks
    and the system resets. But until then our one-party politics is
    undermining our two-party system, and our competition is reduced to determining which broken party will prevail.

    That's the first decent thing by French that you've ever posted here.

    As noted he didn't use the word oligarch and he also avoided saying
    uniparty, although both are implied.

    I think a new third party is going to happen one way or the other. That
    or maybe civil war.

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  • From Noah Sombrero@fedora@fea.st to alt.buddha.short.fat.guy on Fri Jun 26 13:20:34 2026
    From Newsgroup: alt.buddha.short.fat.guy

    On Fri, 26 Jun 2026 12:30:57 -0400, Wilson <Wilson@nowhere.invalid>
    wrote:

    On 6/24/2026 10:51 PM, Noah Sombrero wrote:

    NY Times,

    June 24, 2026

    Why does our seemingly competitive two-party system produce so much
    stagnation and corruption?

    By David French

    ThereAs a line from a speech that I keep thinking about.

    I wrote about it last month. Shane Massey, the Republican majority
    leader in the South Carolina Senate, spoke against a Trump-inspired
    plan to redistrict the state.

    oI will tell my Republican friends: Republicans are stronger when the
    Democrat Party is vibrant and viable,o Massey said. oWe are.
    Competition makes you better, yAall.o

    IAm reminded of a conversation I had many years ago with a friend who
    was then a senior executive at McDonaldAs (my favorite restaurant).
    When we spoke it was obvious that McDonaldAs had decisively won the
    burger wars, and that its chief competitors, Burger King and WendyAs,
    were no longer threats to dislodge Ronald McDonald from the Throne of
    Fries.

    I asked him if there was a sense of satisfaction at the company, and
    his response surprised me. oI have mixed feelings,o he said. oWe were
    a great company when the competition was intense.o

    The innovation and energy required to stave off a challenger was
    invigorating and perhaps most crucially, it staved off stagnation.

    So why isnAt this happening in American politics? Our nation has two
    parties of near-identical size and power, at least in theory. Control
    of the national government routinely flips back and forth, and even
    when one side wins full control its margins of victory are extremely
    narrow.

    And yet, instead of creating innovation and energy, our political
    competition seems to be yielding stagnation and corruption. I donAt
    believe that stagnation and corruption exist equally on both sides of
    the aisle, but itAs hard to find anyone who believes the Democratic
    Party is healthy and vibrant, especially after two losses to Donald
    Trump.

    Even if the two parties arenAt equally corrupt, they do share a
    different common characteristic: TheyAre equally repulsive to the
    public.

    A Gallup poll in January found that 45 percent of Americans identify
    as independents, a record since Gallup began regular polling in 1988.
    Equal percentages of adults, 27 percent, identify as Republicans or as
    Democrats.

    This doesnAt mean that neither side can win. When the public is
    disgusted with the current leadership, it has but one other
    alternative. Many voters are voting against incumbents more than
    theyAre endorsing their challengers.

    If the competition between McDonaldAs and Burger King gave us tastier
    fries, somehow the competition between Republicans and Democrats is
    giving us rotten politics.

    But what if we donAt actually have a competitive two-party system?
    What if our nation actually has two one-party systems, instead? And if
    the United States has two one-party systems, then that means that each
    way they turn voters are confronted with the arrogance, stagnation and
    corruption that almost always disfigures single-party rule.

    The best illustration of this reality is found in state government
    otrifectas.o ThatAs the term for a state where one party controls the
    governorAs mansion and both houses of the state legislature. As of
    this month, there are 23 Republican trifectas and 16 Democratic ones.
    That leaves 11 states with divided governments.

    Republicans may govern more states, but Democratic states tend to be
    more populous. As a result, a roughly equal percentage of Americans
    live under total red or blue rule. As of January, 39.1 percent of
    Americans lived in blue trifecta states, and 41.5 percent lived in red
    trifecta states, which means that less than 20 percent of the
    population lives in a divided state.

    Combine trifecta state control with aggressive partisan gerrymanders,
    and you have exactly the situation in Congress that my colleague Tom
    Edsall described this week: oAn overwhelming majority of House members
    run in districts that are safe in the general election, where the only
    threat to an incumbent is from a more ideologically extreme challenger
    in the primary.o

    Another way of putting it is that the other side is so weak in so many
    states and congressional districts that politicians can build entire
    careers without having to appeal to voters on the other side of the
    aisle.

    For example, even in a year of remarkable public discontent, in which
    the House may well change hands, the vast majority of members of
    Congress are completely safe. The Cook Political Report lists 186
    districts as solid Republican and 182 districts as solid Democrat.
    There are only 18 tossup races. If you add in the 20 races that merely
    lean in one direction or the other, that gives you a grand total of 38
    competitive races in a 435-member House of Representatives.

    As a result, one-party politicians are often born in the partiesA
    bases and inept at reaching anyone even a few inches to their
    ideological right or left. In fact, the very effort to reach out to
    the opposition is usually interpreted as weakness, a misguided
    compromise against an uncompromising foe.

    The art of compromise vanishes before our eyes. After all, generations
    of politicians now come from the roughly 80 percent of the country
    where compromise is almost always unnecessary. Compromises are
    internal only, as the party negotiates with itself. The opposition
    might as well not exist.

    The partisan majority in a single-party state will often radicalize.
    As IAve explained before, the law of group polarization suggests that
    when like-minded people deliberate, they tend to become more extreme.
    Red bubbles get redder, Blue bubbles get bluer.

    ItAs not just that the two sides separate ideologically. They also
    develop very different political cultures u to the extent that each
    side is completely convinced that the other side is just, well, weird.
    Our nation is full of radicalized people who donAt fully understand
    that theyAre radical because everyone they know agrees with everything
    they say.

    IAve heard Republicans and Democrats use exactly the same oStar Warso
    reference to describe the other side. TheyAll say the other sideAs
    convention, for example, is like the Mos Eisley Cantina, the bar in
    oStar Warso filled with bizarre creatures from across the galaxy.

    Compounding the problem, the sheer size of the red and blue trifectas
    mean that they define the nature of the respective parties, not
    swing-state politicians u even though swing-state politicians are
    indispensable to party control. The single-party partisans tell us
    what it means to be a orealo Republican or a orealo Democrat and often
    despise the rare politicians from their own party who can win on
    hostile ground. TheyAre the squishes, after all.

    Politics is always vulnerable to corruption, but single-party rule can
    be a virtual petri dish for favoritism and graft. We all know that
    institutions tend to be terrible at policing themselves, and when one
    party possesses complete control, it is rarely as vigilant at
    punishing its own as it is at pummeling the other side.

    Even swing states arenAt immune from the maladies of one-party rule.
    The states themselves are often carved up into one-party enclaves.

    President Trump is perhaps the ultimate example of what one-party rule
    in a two-party nation can produce. While he governs for himself (as
    many one-party politicians do), heAs also vicious and vengeful to the
    other side, and so long as he keeps attacking the hated Democratic
    foe, his party will gladly cover for his corruption and graft.

    But if the Democrats challenge Trump with the products of their own
    one-party rule, with a candidate who canAt even begin to speak the
    language of the swing voter, much less the language of the disaffected
    Republican, then weAre setting ourselves up for yet another lurch back
    to the competing extreme.

    There is no easy way for Americans to change this dynamic. But perhaps
    u just perhaps u we can start by turning to those politicians whoAve
    proven that theyAre culturally and politically bilingual. They can win
    on hostile (or purple) ground. One can think of Andy Beshear, the
    governor of Kentucky, or Josh Shapiro, the governor of Pennsylvania.
    On the Republican side, I can still remember when Charlie Baker, as
    governor of Massachusetts, was by some counts the most popular
    governor in America. In 2022, he recorded a stunning 74 percent
    approval rating.

    All of these politicians, though, suffer from the same vulnerability.
    The partisan base can believe theyAre weak, that theyAre not real
    Democrats or Republicans, mere DINOs or RINOs. But a party shouldnAt
    be defined by its most zealous ideologues. Why would a progressive in
    Brooklyn be a more authentic representative of the Democratic Party
    than a moderate in Tennessee? The same analysis applies to
    Republicans. You are not more Republican the more guns you own or the
    more often you go to church u that makes you a type of Republican, but
    not the ideal form.

    There are many, many Republicans, for example, who will rejoice if
    Susan Collins loses in Maine. She voted to convict Trump, and which
    real Republican would do that? There should be no such thing as the
    model ideological candidate.

    To quote the Apostle Paul in 1 Corinthians, one body has many parts,
    and othe eye cannot say to the hand, aI donAt need you!A And the head
    cannot say to the feet, aI donAt need you!Ao The parties need
    ideological diversity. Groupthink is dangerous, no matter where it is
    found.

    IAd like to end a rather bleak newsletter with a dash of optimism. As
    the Gallup poll indicates, present trends cannot continue forever. If
    the number of independents continues to grow, and the share of
    partisans continues to shrink, the present system will grow more
    unstable. A diminishing percentage of Americans will not be able to
    hold the same amount of power.

    One-party rule can look imposing, but it is often fragile. It wasnAt
    that long ago, for example, when there was a different kind of
    one-party rule in the South, and then it shifted from Democratic to
    Republican. It wasnAt that long ago that California was a swing state,
    or that Iowa was briefly part of the Democratic PartyAs blue wall.

    It might take time u far too much time u but when the single party
    fails, eventually the dormant second party revives, the logjam breaks
    and the system resets. But until then our one-party politics is
    undermining our two-party system, and our competition is reduced to
    determining which broken party will prevail.

    That's the first decent thing by French that you've ever posted here.

    You mean the first thing you have agreed with. I recommend it to you
    as a lesson in telling both sides. You seem to have very little sense
    of how that might work.

    As noted he didn't use the word oligarch and he also avoided saying >uniparty, although both are implied.

    I think a new third party is going to happen one way or the other. That
    or maybe civil war.

    There is nothing revolutionary about a 3rd party. Canada has one. It
    does better than such efforts in the US because it does not entirely
    go away, but it remains mostly irrelevant.

    Civil war? It is not even apparent, at this point, that himbo will
    retain control of congress after nov 2026.
    --
    Noah Sombrero mustachioed villain
    Don't get political with me young man
    or I'll tie you to a railroad track and
    <<<talk>>> to <<<YOOooooo>>>
    Who dares to talk to El Sombrero?
    dares: Ned
    does not dare: Julian shrinks in horror and warns others away

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  • From dart200@user7160@newsgrouper.org.invalid to alt.buddha.short.fat.guy on Fri Jun 26 10:34:53 2026
    From Newsgroup: alt.buddha.short.fat.guy

    On 6/25/26 9:18 PM, Noah Sombrero wrote:
    On Thu, 25 Jun 2026 20:36:51 -0700, Dude <punditster@gmail.com> wrote:

    On 6/25/2026 3:44 PM, dart200 wrote:
    On 6/25/26 9:35 AM, Noah Sombrero wrote:
    On Wed, 24 Jun 2026 21:40:10 -0700, dart200
    <user7160@newsgrouper.org.invalid> wrote:

    On 6/24/26 9:17 PM, Noah Sombrero wrote:
    On Wed, 24 Jun 2026 20:39:28 -0700, dart200
    <user7160@newsgrouper.org.invalid> wrote:

    On 6/24/26 7:51 PM, Noah Sombrero wrote:

    NY Times,

    June 24, 2026

    Why does our seemingly competitive two-party system produce so much >>>>>>>> stagnation and corruption?

    because a duopoly isn't competition,

    and because it's actually one club of people: oligarchs


    By David French

    ThererCOs a line from a speech that I keep thinking about.

    I wrote about it last month. Shane Massey, the Republican majority >>>>>>>> leader in the South Carolina Senate, spoke against a Trump-inspired >>>>>>>> plan to redistrict the state.

    rCLI will tell my Republican friends: Republicans are stronger when the
    Democrat Party is vibrant and viable,rCY Massey said. rCLWe are. >>>>>>>> Competition makes you better, yrCOall.rCY

    IrCOm reminded of a conversation I had many years ago with a friend who
    was then a senior executive at McDonaldrCOs (my favorite restaurant). >>>>>>>
    (imagine ur favorite restaurant being mcdonalds ?)

    When we spoke it was obvious that McDonaldrCOs had decisively won the >>>>>>>> burger wars, and that its chief competitors, Burger King and WendyrCOs,
    were no longer threats to dislodge Ronald McDonald from the Throne of >>>>>>>> Fries.

    I asked him if there was a sense of satisfaction at the company, and >>>>>>>> his response surprised me. rCLI have mixed feelings,rCY he said. rCLWe were
    a great company when the competition was intense.rCY

    The innovation and energy required to stave off a challenger was >>>>>>>> invigorating and perhaps most crucially, it staved off stagnation. >>>>>>>>
    So why isnrCOt this happening in American politics? Our nation has two >>>>>>>> parties of near-identical size and power, at least in theory. Control >>>>>>>> of the national government routinely flips back and forth, and even >>>>>>>> when one side wins full control its margins of victory are extremely >>>>>>>> narrow.

    And yet, instead of creating innovation and energy, our political >>>>>>>> competition seems to be yielding stagnation and corruption. I donrCOt >>>>>>>> believe that stagnation and corruption exist equally on both sides of >>>>>>>> the aisle, but itrCOs hard to find anyone who believes the Democratic >>>>>>>> Party is healthy and vibrant, especially after two losses to Donald >>>>>>>> Trump.

    Even if the two parties arenrCOt equally corrupt, they do share a >>>>>>>> different common characteristic: TheyrCOre equally repulsive to the >>>>>>>> public.

    A Gallup poll in January found that 45 percent of Americans identify >>>>>>>> as independents, a record since Gallup began regular polling in 1988. >>>>>>>> Equal percentages of adults, 27 percent, identify as Republicans >>>>>>>> or as
    Democrats.

    This doesnrCOt mean that neither side can win. When the public is >>>>>>>> disgusted with the current leadership, it has but one other
    alternative. Many voters are voting against incumbents more than >>>>>>>> theyrCOre endorsing their challengers.

    If the competition between McDonaldrCOs and Burger King gave us tastier
    fries, somehow the competition between Republicans and Democrats is >>>>>>>> giving us rotten politics.

    But what if we donrCOt actually have a competitive two-party system? >>>>>>>> What if our nation actually has two one-party systems, instead? >>>>>>>> And if
    the United States has two one-party systems, then that means that >>>>>>>> each
    way they turn voters are confronted with the arrogance, stagnation >>>>>>>> and
    corruption that almost always disfigures single-party rule.

    The best illustration of this reality is found in state government >>>>>>>> rCLtrifectas.rCY ThatrCOs the term for a state where one party controls the
    governorrCOs mansion and both houses of the state legislature. As of >>>>>>>> this month, there are 23 Republican trifectas and 16 Democratic ones. >>>>>>>> That leaves 11 states with divided governments.

    Republicans may govern more states, but Democratic states tend to be >>>>>>>> more populous. As a result, a roughly equal percentage of Americans >>>>>>>> live under total red or blue rule. As of January, 39.1 percent of >>>>>>>> Americans lived in blue trifecta states, and 41.5 percent lived in >>>>>>>> red
    trifecta states, which means that less than 20 percent of the
    population lives in a divided state.

    Combine trifecta state control with aggressive partisan gerrymanders, >>>>>>>> and you have exactly the situation in Congress that my colleague Tom >>>>>>>> Edsall described this week: rCLAn overwhelming majority of House >>>>>>>> members
    run in districts that are safe in the general election, where the >>>>>>>> only
    threat to an incumbent is from a more ideologically extreme
    challenger
    in the primary.rCY

    Another way of putting it is that the other side is so weak in so >>>>>>>> many
    states and congressional districts that politicians can build entire >>>>>>>> careers without having to appeal to voters on the other side of the >>>>>>>> aisle.

    For example, even in a year of remarkable public discontent, in which >>>>>>>> the House may well change hands, the vast majority of members of >>>>>>>> Congress are completely safe. The Cook Political Report lists 186 >>>>>>>> districts as solid Republican and 182 districts as solid Democrat. >>>>>>>> There are only 18 tossup races. If you add in the 20 races that >>>>>>>> merely
    lean in one direction or the other, that gives you a grand total >>>>>>>> of 38
    competitive races in a 435-member House of Representatives.

    As a result, one-party politicians are often born in the partiesrCO >>>>>>>> bases and inept at reaching anyone even a few inches to their
    ideological right or left. In fact, the very effort to reach out to >>>>>>>> the opposition is usually interpreted as weakness, a misguided >>>>>>>> compromise against an uncompromising foe.

    The art of compromise vanishes before our eyes. After all,
    generations
    of politicians now come from the roughly 80 percent of the country >>>>>>>> where compromise is almost always unnecessary. Compromises are >>>>>>>> internal only, as the party negotiates with itself. The opposition >>>>>>>> might as well not exist.

    The partisan majority in a single-party state will often radicalize. >>>>>>>> As IrCOve explained before, the law of group polarization suggests that
    when like-minded people deliberate, they tend to become more extreme. >>>>>>>> Red bubbles get redder, Blue bubbles get bluer.

    ItrCOs not just that the two sides separate ideologically. They also >>>>>>>> develop very different political cultures rCo to the extent that each >>>>>>>> side is completely convinced that the other side is just, well, >>>>>>>> weird.
    Our nation is full of radicalized people who donrCOt fully understand >>>>>>>> that theyrCOre radical because everyone they know agrees with
    everything
    they say.

    IrCOve heard Republicans and Democrats use exactly the same rCLStar WarsrCY
    reference to describe the other side. TheyrCOll say the other siderCOs >>>>>>>> convention, for example, is like the Mos Eisley Cantina, the bar in >>>>>>>> rCLStar WarsrCY filled with bizarre creatures from across the galaxy. >>>>>>>>
    Compounding the problem, the sheer size of the red and blue trifectas >>>>>>>> mean that they define the nature of the respective parties, not >>>>>>>> swing-state politicians rCo even though swing-state politicians are >>>>>>>> indispensable to party control. The single-party partisans tell us >>>>>>>> what it means to be a rCLrealrCY Republican or a rCLrealrCY Democrat and
    often
    despise the rare politicians from their own party who can win on >>>>>>>> hostile ground. TheyrCOre the squishes, after all.

    Politics is always vulnerable to corruption, but single-party rule >>>>>>>> can
    be a virtual petri dish for favoritism and graft. We all know that >>>>>>>> institutions tend to be terrible at policing themselves, and when one >>>>>>>> party possesses complete control, it is rarely as vigilant at
    punishing its own as it is at pummeling the other side.

    Even swing states arenrCOt immune from the maladies of one-party rule. >>>>>>>> The states themselves are often carved up into one-party enclaves. >>>>>>>>
    President Trump is perhaps the ultimate example of what one-party >>>>>>>> rule
    in a two-party nation can produce. While he governs for himself (as >>>>>>>> many one-party politicians do), herCOs also vicious and vengeful to the
    other side, and so long as he keeps attacking the hated Democratic >>>>>>>> foe, his party will gladly cover for his corruption and graft. >>>>>>>>
    But if the Democrats challenge Trump with the products of their own >>>>>>>> one-party rule, with a candidate who canrCOt even begin to speak the >>>>>>>> language of the swing voter, much less the language of the
    disaffected
    Republican, then werCOre setting ourselves up for yet another lurch >>>>>>>> back
    to the competing extreme.

    There is no easy way for Americans to change this dynamic. But >>>>>>>> perhaps
    rCo just perhaps rCo we can start by turning to those politicians whorCOve
    proven that theyrCOre culturally and politically bilingual. They can >>>>>>>> win
    on hostile (or purple) ground. One can think of Andy Beshear, the >>>>>>>> governor of Kentucky, or Josh Shapiro, the governor of Pennsylvania. >>>>>>>> On the Republican side, I can still remember when Charlie Baker, as >>>>>>>> governor of Massachusetts, was by some counts the most popular >>>>>>>> governor in America. In 2022, he recorded a stunning 74 percent >>>>>>>> approval rating.

    All of these politicians, though, suffer from the same vulnerability. >>>>>>>> The partisan base can believe theyrCOre weak, that theyrCOre not real >>>>>>>> Democrats or Republicans, mere DINOs or RINOs. But a party shouldnrCOt >>>>>>>> be defined by its most zealous ideologues. Why would a progressive in >>>>>>>> Brooklyn be a more authentic representative of the Democratic Party >>>>>>>> than a moderate in Tennessee? The same analysis applies to
    Republicans. You are not more Republican the more guns you own or the >>>>>>>> more often you go to church rCo that makes you a type of Republican, >>>>>>>> but
    not the ideal form.

    There are many, many Republicans, for example, who will rejoice if >>>>>>>> Susan Collins loses in Maine. She voted to convict Trump, and which >>>>>>>> real Republican would do that? There should be no such thing as the >>>>>>>> model ideological candidate.

    To quote the Apostle Paul in 1 Corinthians, one body has many parts, >>>>>>>> and rCLthe eye cannot say to the hand, rCyI donrCOt need you!rCO And the head
    cannot say to the feet, rCyI donrCOt need you!rCOrCY The parties need >>>>>>>> ideological diversity. Groupthink is dangerous, no matter where it is >>>>>>>> found.

    IrCOd like to end a rather bleak newsletter with a dash of optimism. As
    the Gallup poll indicates, present trends cannot continue forever. If >>>>>>>> the number of independents continues to grow, and the share of >>>>>>>> partisans continues to shrink, the present system will grow more >>>>>>>> unstable. A diminishing percentage of Americans will not be able to >>>>>>>> hold the same amount of power.

    One-party rule can look imposing, but it is often fragile. It wasnrCOt >>>>>>>> that long ago, for example, when there was a different kind of >>>>>>>> one-party rule in the South, and then it shifted from Democratic to >>>>>>>> Republican. It wasnrCOt that long ago that California was a swing >>>>>>>> state,
    or that Iowa was briefly part of the Democratic PartyrCOs blue wall. >>>>>>>>
    It might take time rCo far too much time rCo but when the single party >>>>>>>> fails, eventually the dormant second party revives, the logjam breaks >>>>>>>> and the system resets. But until then our one-party politics is >>>>>>>> undermining our two-party system, and our competition is reduced to >>>>>>>> determining which broken party will prevail.

    dissolve the senate, it was just a needless check on actual democracy >>>>>>>
    reform the executive presidency into an executive council (5 reps >>>>>>> from 3
    parties: 2,2,1) requiring consensus decision making where each can >>>>>>> vote
    pass/neg/block - majority to pass, no blocking votes

    Shared power has been tried a number of times since the romans tried >>>>>> it first.-a So far it has not worked well.

    i'm literally just recommending what is currently working out well in >>>>> switzerland

    and there no division of territory here, they are not ruling and making >>>>> decrees from different locations like the romans tried several times in >>>>> their later stages. they deliberating as a council until consensus with >>>>> each other is reached, and any one of them can block a policy entirely. >>>>
    This is pertinent.-a Rome conquered more territory than it could
    reasonably administer.-a It also helps that switz is a small country.
    Small countries tend to enjoy greater social cohesion.

    switzerland has 3 official languages because it's split into 3 regions
    with different dominate languages, even today. and up until modern
    tunnel boring the country was rather difficult to traverse.


    So, rather than solving the towering ambition problem, they have
    avoided it by having leaders that lack that characteristic.

    Not a solution to the underlying issue.-a And for them, likely not a
    long term solution.-a Sure you might beat the odds and find 3 good guys >>>> once.-a What are the odds then, of doing that again next time?

    it's 5: 2 from the top party, 2 from the second party, and 1 from a
    third. and they can only pass policy with consensus. i don't know how
    this remove the problem of ambition ... it's a structural shift in the
    requirements to pass policy

    u can't just elect one dumbfuck into power and give everyone else the
    run around, u have five from three different voting blocks, and so it
    requires putting in people who can actually deliberate

    It kind of looks like Nick top-posted and changed the subject from the
    burger war, to the oligarchs in Russia, then changed the subject again
    to Switzerland following Noah's assertion that the Romans did it and so
    Nick cross-posted to alt.messianic.

    I see no such manipulations. The subject remains burger war. I don't
    care guys make it whatever you like.

    seriously is dud half senile or something???


    Since they both ignored my post, I'm interjecting it again:

    Apparently the reason Switzerland is so successful because it's a
    Libertarian free market mix of social and cultural conservatism with
    strong economic and political liberalism.

    And I asserted and still assert that:

    That must make you feel good. But it does not explain dart's
    assertion.

    Which you have ignored.

    "Swiss conservatism is generally cautious and traditional (resisting
    rapid changes), while its liberalism favors free-market economics,
    robust civil liberties, and the world's most extensive system of direct
    democracy." - Wikipedia



    The problem that govt's mostly fail to address is what to do with
    people with towering ambition?-a Lock them up and allow them no access >>>>>> to media?

    --
    hi, i'm nick!
    let's end war EfOa

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  • From dart200@user7160@newsgrouper.org.invalid to alt.buddha.short.fat.guy,alt.messianic on Fri Jun 26 10:47:37 2026
    From Newsgroup: alt.buddha.short.fat.guy

    On 6/26/26 9:30 AM, Wilson wrote:
    On 6/24/2026 10:51 PM, Noah Sombrero wrote:

    NY Times,

    June 24, 2026

    Why does our seemingly competitive two-party system produce so much
    stagnation and corruption?

    By David French

    ThererCOs a line from a speech that I keep thinking about.

    I wrote about it last month. Shane Massey, the Republican majority
    leader in the South Carolina Senate, spoke against a Trump-inspired
    plan to redistrict the state.

    rCLI will tell my Republican friends: Republicans are stronger when the
    Democrat Party is vibrant and viable,rCY Massey said. rCLWe are.
    Competition makes you better, yrCOall.rCY

    IrCOm reminded of a conversation I had many years ago with a friend who
    was then a senior executive at McDonaldrCOs (my favorite restaurant).
    When we spoke it was obvious that McDonaldrCOs had decisively won the
    burger wars, and that its chief competitors, Burger King and WendyrCOs,
    were no longer threats to dislodge Ronald McDonald from the Throne of
    Fries.

    I asked him if there was a sense of satisfaction at the company, and
    his response surprised me. rCLI have mixed feelings,rCY he said. rCLWe were >> a great company when the competition was intense.rCY

    The innovation and energy required to stave off a challenger was
    invigorating and perhaps most crucially, it staved off stagnation.

    So why isnrCOt this happening in American politics? Our nation has two
    parties of near-identical size and power, at least in theory. Control
    of the national government routinely flips back and forth, and even
    when one side wins full control its margins of victory are extremely
    narrow.

    And yet, instead of creating innovation and energy, our political
    competition seems to be yielding stagnation and corruption. I donrCOt
    believe that stagnation and corruption exist equally on both sides of
    the aisle, but itrCOs hard to find anyone who believes the Democratic
    Party is healthy and vibrant, especially after two losses to Donald
    Trump.

    Even if the two parties arenrCOt equally corrupt, they do share a
    different common characteristic: TheyrCOre equally repulsive to the
    public.

    A Gallup poll in January found that 45 percent of Americans identify
    as independents, a record since Gallup began regular polling in 1988.
    Equal percentages of adults, 27 percent, identify as Republicans or as
    Democrats.

    This doesnrCOt mean that neither side can win. When the public is
    disgusted with the current leadership, it has but one other
    alternative. Many voters are voting against incumbents more than
    theyrCOre endorsing their challengers.

    If the competition between McDonaldrCOs and Burger King gave us tastier
    fries, somehow the competition between Republicans and Democrats is
    giving us rotten politics.

    But what if we donrCOt actually have a competitive two-party system?
    What if our nation actually has two one-party systems, instead? And if
    the United States has two one-party systems, then that means that each
    way they turn voters are confronted with the arrogance, stagnation and
    corruption that almost always disfigures single-party rule.

    The best illustration of this reality is found in state government
    rCLtrifectas.rCY ThatrCOs the term for a state where one party controls the >> governorrCOs mansion and both houses of the state legislature. As of
    this month, there are 23 Republican trifectas and 16 Democratic ones.
    That leaves 11 states with divided governments.

    Republicans may govern more states, but Democratic states tend to be
    more populous. As a result, a roughly equal percentage of Americans
    live under total red or blue rule. As of January, 39.1 percent of
    Americans lived in blue trifecta states, and 41.5 percent lived in red
    trifecta states, which means that less than 20 percent of the
    population lives in a divided state.

    Combine trifecta state control with aggressive partisan gerrymanders,
    and you have exactly the situation in Congress that my colleague Tom
    Edsall described this week: rCLAn overwhelming majority of House members
    run in districts that are safe in the general election, where the only
    threat to an incumbent is from a more ideologically extreme challenger
    in the primary.rCY

    Another way of putting it is that the other side is so weak in so many
    states and congressional districts that politicians can build entire
    careers without having to appeal to voters on the other side of the
    aisle.

    For example, even in a year of remarkable public discontent, in which
    the House may well change hands, the vast majority of members of
    Congress are completely safe. The Cook Political Report lists 186
    districts as solid Republican and 182 districts as solid Democrat.
    There are only 18 tossup races. If you add in the 20 races that merely
    lean in one direction or the other, that gives you a grand total of 38
    competitive races in a 435-member House of Representatives.

    As a result, one-party politicians are often born in the partiesrCO
    bases and inept at reaching anyone even a few inches to their
    ideological right or left. In fact, the very effort to reach out to
    the opposition is usually interpreted as weakness, a misguided
    compromise against an uncompromising foe.

    The art of compromise vanishes before our eyes. After all, generations
    of politicians now come from the roughly 80 percent of the country
    where compromise is almost always unnecessary. Compromises are
    internal only, as the party negotiates with itself. The opposition
    might as well not exist.

    The partisan majority in a single-party state will often radicalize.
    As IrCOve explained before, the law of group polarization suggests that
    when like-minded people deliberate, they tend to become more extreme.
    Red bubbles get redder, Blue bubbles get bluer.

    ItrCOs not just that the two sides separate ideologically. They also
    develop very different political cultures rCo to the extent that each
    side is completely convinced that the other side is just, well, weird.
    Our nation is full of radicalized people who donrCOt fully understand
    that theyrCOre radical because everyone they know agrees with everything
    they say.

    IrCOve heard Republicans and Democrats use exactly the same rCLStar WarsrCY >> reference to describe the other side. TheyrCOll say the other siderCOs
    convention, for example, is like the Mos Eisley Cantina, the bar in
    rCLStar WarsrCY filled with bizarre creatures from across the galaxy.

    Compounding the problem, the sheer size of the red and blue trifectas
    mean that they define the nature of the respective parties, not
    swing-state politicians rCo even though swing-state politicians are
    indispensable to party control. The single-party partisans tell us
    what it means to be a rCLrealrCY Republican or a rCLrealrCY Democrat and often
    despise the rare politicians from their own party who can win on
    hostile ground. TheyrCOre the squishes, after all.

    Politics is always vulnerable to corruption, but single-party rule can
    be a virtual petri dish for favoritism and graft. We all know that
    institutions tend to be terrible at policing themselves, and when one
    party possesses complete control, it is rarely as vigilant at
    punishing its own as it is at pummeling the other side.

    Even swing states arenrCOt immune from the maladies of one-party rule.
    The states themselves are often carved up into one-party enclaves.

    President Trump is perhaps the ultimate example of what one-party rule
    in a two-party nation can produce. While he governs for himself (as
    many one-party politicians do), herCOs also vicious and vengeful to the
    other side, and so long as he keeps attacking the hated Democratic
    foe, his party will gladly cover for his corruption and graft.

    But if the Democrats challenge Trump with the products of their own
    one-party rule, with a candidate who canrCOt even begin to speak the
    language of the swing voter, much less the language of the disaffected
    Republican, then werCOre setting ourselves up for yet another lurch back
    to the competing extreme.

    There is no easy way for Americans to change this dynamic. But perhaps
    rCo just perhaps rCo we can start by turning to those politicians whorCOve >> proven that theyrCOre culturally and politically bilingual. They can win
    on hostile (or purple) ground. One can think of Andy Beshear, the
    governor of Kentucky, or Josh Shapiro, the governor of Pennsylvania.
    On the Republican side, I can still remember when Charlie Baker, as
    governor of Massachusetts, was by some counts the most popular
    governor in America. In 2022, he recorded a stunning 74 percent
    approval rating.

    All of these politicians, though, suffer from the same vulnerability.
    The partisan base can believe theyrCOre weak, that theyrCOre not real
    Democrats or Republicans, mere DINOs or RINOs. But a party shouldnrCOt
    be defined by its most zealous ideologues. Why would a progressive in
    Brooklyn be a more authentic representative of the Democratic Party
    than a moderate in Tennessee? The same analysis applies to
    Republicans. You are not more Republican the more guns you own or the
    more often you go to church rCo that makes you a type of Republican, but
    not the ideal form.

    There are many, many Republicans, for example, who will rejoice if
    Susan Collins loses in Maine. She voted to convict Trump, and which
    real Republican would do that? There should be no such thing as the
    model ideological candidate.

    To quote the Apostle Paul in 1 Corinthians, one body has many parts,
    and rCLthe eye cannot say to the hand, rCyI donrCOt need you!rCO And the head
    cannot say to the feet, rCyI donrCOt need you!rCOrCY The parties need
    ideological diversity. Groupthink is dangerous, no matter where it is
    found.

    IrCOd like to end a rather bleak newsletter with a dash of optimism. As
    the Gallup poll indicates, present trends cannot continue forever. If
    the number of independents continues to grow, and the share of
    partisans continues to shrink, the present system will grow more
    unstable. A diminishing percentage of Americans will not be able to
    hold the same amount of power.

    One-party rule can look imposing, but it is often fragile. It wasnrCOt
    that long ago, for example, when there was a different kind of
    one-party rule in the South, and then it shifted from Democratic to
    Republican. It wasnrCOt that long ago that California was a swing state,
    or that Iowa was briefly part of the Democratic PartyrCOs blue wall.

    It might take time rCo far too much time rCo but when the single party
    fails, eventually the dormant second party revives, the logjam breaks
    and the system resets. But until then our one-party politics is
    undermining our two-party system, and our competition is reduced to
    determining which broken party will prevail.

    That's the first decent thing by French that you've ever posted here.

    As noted he didn't use the word oligarch and he also avoided saying uniparty, although both are implied.

    I think a new third party is going to happen one way or the other. That
    or maybe civil war.


    what even are we to go to war over???

    honestly if a significant majority wanted to deal with oligarchs...

    first we stop using their tech platforms

    second we stop consuming their media

    third we start consensus making ourselves

    fourth expand these initial steps globally and build a trans-cultural
    movement far beyond what any oligarch could even dream of...

    > war is sooooo last century
    >
    > #god

    consumers really just need to wake the fuck up. how are guns going to accomplish anything if we can't even take these non-violent steps? like
    we're going to replace all of society if we can't even replace our basic
    tech platforms???
    --
    why are we god?
    let's end war EfOa

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  • From Wilson@Wilson@nowhere.invalid to alt.buddha.short.fat.guy on Fri Jun 26 13:51:00 2026
    From Newsgroup: alt.buddha.short.fat.guy

    On 6/26/2026 1:20 PM, Noah Sombrero wrote:
    On Fri, 26 Jun 2026 12:30:57 -0400, Wilson <Wilson@nowhere.invalid>
    wrote:

    On 6/24/2026 10:51 PM, Noah Sombrero wrote:

    NY Times,

    June 24, 2026

    Why does our seemingly competitive two-party system produce so much
    stagnation and corruption?

    By David French

    ThererCOs a line from a speech that I keep thinking about.

    I wrote about it last month. Shane Massey, the Republican majority
    leader in the South Carolina Senate, spoke against a Trump-inspired
    plan to redistrict the state.

    rCLI will tell my Republican friends: Republicans are stronger when the
    Democrat Party is vibrant and viable,rCY Massey said. rCLWe are.
    Competition makes you better, yrCOall.rCY

    IrCOm reminded of a conversation I had many years ago with a friend who
    was then a senior executive at McDonaldrCOs (my favorite restaurant).
    When we spoke it was obvious that McDonaldrCOs had decisively won the
    burger wars, and that its chief competitors, Burger King and WendyrCOs,
    were no longer threats to dislodge Ronald McDonald from the Throne of
    Fries.

    I asked him if there was a sense of satisfaction at the company, and
    his response surprised me. rCLI have mixed feelings,rCY he said. rCLWe were >>> a great company when the competition was intense.rCY

    The innovation and energy required to stave off a challenger was
    invigorating and perhaps most crucially, it staved off stagnation.

    So why isnrCOt this happening in American politics? Our nation has two
    parties of near-identical size and power, at least in theory. Control
    of the national government routinely flips back and forth, and even
    when one side wins full control its margins of victory are extremely
    narrow.

    And yet, instead of creating innovation and energy, our political
    competition seems to be yielding stagnation and corruption. I donrCOt
    believe that stagnation and corruption exist equally on both sides of
    the aisle, but itrCOs hard to find anyone who believes the Democratic
    Party is healthy and vibrant, especially after two losses to Donald
    Trump.

    Even if the two parties arenrCOt equally corrupt, they do share a
    different common characteristic: TheyrCOre equally repulsive to the
    public.

    A Gallup poll in January found that 45 percent of Americans identify
    as independents, a record since Gallup began regular polling in 1988.
    Equal percentages of adults, 27 percent, identify as Republicans or as
    Democrats.

    This doesnrCOt mean that neither side can win. When the public is
    disgusted with the current leadership, it has but one other
    alternative. Many voters are voting against incumbents more than
    theyrCOre endorsing their challengers.

    If the competition between McDonaldrCOs and Burger King gave us tastier
    fries, somehow the competition between Republicans and Democrats is
    giving us rotten politics.

    But what if we donrCOt actually have a competitive two-party system?
    What if our nation actually has two one-party systems, instead? And if
    the United States has two one-party systems, then that means that each
    way they turn voters are confronted with the arrogance, stagnation and
    corruption that almost always disfigures single-party rule.

    The best illustration of this reality is found in state government
    rCLtrifectas.rCY ThatrCOs the term for a state where one party controls the >>> governorrCOs mansion and both houses of the state legislature. As of
    this month, there are 23 Republican trifectas and 16 Democratic ones.
    That leaves 11 states with divided governments.

    Republicans may govern more states, but Democratic states tend to be
    more populous. As a result, a roughly equal percentage of Americans
    live under total red or blue rule. As of January, 39.1 percent of
    Americans lived in blue trifecta states, and 41.5 percent lived in red
    trifecta states, which means that less than 20 percent of the
    population lives in a divided state.

    Combine trifecta state control with aggressive partisan gerrymanders,
    and you have exactly the situation in Congress that my colleague Tom
    Edsall described this week: rCLAn overwhelming majority of House members >>> run in districts that are safe in the general election, where the only
    threat to an incumbent is from a more ideologically extreme challenger
    in the primary.rCY

    Another way of putting it is that the other side is so weak in so many
    states and congressional districts that politicians can build entire
    careers without having to appeal to voters on the other side of the
    aisle.

    For example, even in a year of remarkable public discontent, in which
    the House may well change hands, the vast majority of members of
    Congress are completely safe. The Cook Political Report lists 186
    districts as solid Republican and 182 districts as solid Democrat.
    There are only 18 tossup races. If you add in the 20 races that merely
    lean in one direction or the other, that gives you a grand total of 38
    competitive races in a 435-member House of Representatives.

    As a result, one-party politicians are often born in the partiesrCO
    bases and inept at reaching anyone even a few inches to their
    ideological right or left. In fact, the very effort to reach out to
    the opposition is usually interpreted as weakness, a misguided
    compromise against an uncompromising foe.

    The art of compromise vanishes before our eyes. After all, generations
    of politicians now come from the roughly 80 percent of the country
    where compromise is almost always unnecessary. Compromises are
    internal only, as the party negotiates with itself. The opposition
    might as well not exist.

    The partisan majority in a single-party state will often radicalize.
    As IrCOve explained before, the law of group polarization suggests that
    when like-minded people deliberate, they tend to become more extreme.
    Red bubbles get redder, Blue bubbles get bluer.

    ItrCOs not just that the two sides separate ideologically. They also
    develop very different political cultures rCo to the extent that each
    side is completely convinced that the other side is just, well, weird.
    Our nation is full of radicalized people who donrCOt fully understand
    that theyrCOre radical because everyone they know agrees with everything >>> they say.

    IrCOve heard Republicans and Democrats use exactly the same rCLStar WarsrCY >>> reference to describe the other side. TheyrCOll say the other siderCOs
    convention, for example, is like the Mos Eisley Cantina, the bar in
    rCLStar WarsrCY filled with bizarre creatures from across the galaxy.

    Compounding the problem, the sheer size of the red and blue trifectas
    mean that they define the nature of the respective parties, not
    swing-state politicians rCo even though swing-state politicians are
    indispensable to party control. The single-party partisans tell us
    what it means to be a rCLrealrCY Republican or a rCLrealrCY Democrat and often
    despise the rare politicians from their own party who can win on
    hostile ground. TheyrCOre the squishes, after all.

    Politics is always vulnerable to corruption, but single-party rule can
    be a virtual petri dish for favoritism and graft. We all know that
    institutions tend to be terrible at policing themselves, and when one
    party possesses complete control, it is rarely as vigilant at
    punishing its own as it is at pummeling the other side.

    Even swing states arenrCOt immune from the maladies of one-party rule.
    The states themselves are often carved up into one-party enclaves.

    President Trump is perhaps the ultimate example of what one-party rule
    in a two-party nation can produce. While he governs for himself (as
    many one-party politicians do), herCOs also vicious and vengeful to the
    other side, and so long as he keeps attacking the hated Democratic
    foe, his party will gladly cover for his corruption and graft.

    But if the Democrats challenge Trump with the products of their own
    one-party rule, with a candidate who canrCOt even begin to speak the
    language of the swing voter, much less the language of the disaffected
    Republican, then werCOre setting ourselves up for yet another lurch back >>> to the competing extreme.

    There is no easy way for Americans to change this dynamic. But perhaps
    rCo just perhaps rCo we can start by turning to those politicians whorCOve >>> proven that theyrCOre culturally and politically bilingual. They can win >>> on hostile (or purple) ground. One can think of Andy Beshear, the
    governor of Kentucky, or Josh Shapiro, the governor of Pennsylvania.
    On the Republican side, I can still remember when Charlie Baker, as
    governor of Massachusetts, was by some counts the most popular
    governor in America. In 2022, he recorded a stunning 74 percent
    approval rating.

    All of these politicians, though, suffer from the same vulnerability.
    The partisan base can believe theyrCOre weak, that theyrCOre not real
    Democrats or Republicans, mere DINOs or RINOs. But a party shouldnrCOt
    be defined by its most zealous ideologues. Why would a progressive in
    Brooklyn be a more authentic representative of the Democratic Party
    than a moderate in Tennessee? The same analysis applies to
    Republicans. You are not more Republican the more guns you own or the
    more often you go to church rCo that makes you a type of Republican, but >>> not the ideal form.

    There are many, many Republicans, for example, who will rejoice if
    Susan Collins loses in Maine. She voted to convict Trump, and which
    real Republican would do that? There should be no such thing as the
    model ideological candidate.

    To quote the Apostle Paul in 1 Corinthians, one body has many parts,
    and rCLthe eye cannot say to the hand, rCyI donrCOt need you!rCO And the head
    cannot say to the feet, rCyI donrCOt need you!rCOrCY The parties need
    ideological diversity. Groupthink is dangerous, no matter where it is
    found.

    IrCOd like to end a rather bleak newsletter with a dash of optimism. As
    the Gallup poll indicates, present trends cannot continue forever. If
    the number of independents continues to grow, and the share of
    partisans continues to shrink, the present system will grow more
    unstable. A diminishing percentage of Americans will not be able to
    hold the same amount of power.

    One-party rule can look imposing, but it is often fragile. It wasnrCOt
    that long ago, for example, when there was a different kind of
    one-party rule in the South, and then it shifted from Democratic to
    Republican. It wasnrCOt that long ago that California was a swing state, >>> or that Iowa was briefly part of the Democratic PartyrCOs blue wall.

    It might take time rCo far too much time rCo but when the single party
    fails, eventually the dormant second party revives, the logjam breaks
    and the system resets. But until then our one-party politics is
    undermining our two-party system, and our competition is reduced to
    determining which broken party will prevail.

    That's the first decent thing by French that you've ever posted here.

    You mean the first thing you have agreed with. I recommend it to you
    as a lesson in telling both sides. You seem to have very little sense
    of how that might work.

    Ironic. You apparently can't help but denigrating people who don't agree
    with you.



    As noted he didn't use the word oligarch and he also avoided saying
    uniparty, although both are implied.

    I think a new third party is going to happen one way or the other. That
    or maybe civil war.

    There is nothing revolutionary about a 3rd party. Canada has one. It
    does better than such efforts in the US because it does not entirely
    go away, but it remains mostly irrelevant.

    Parliamentary systems are friendlier to third parties.


    Civil war? It is not even apparent, at this point, that himbo will
    retain control of congress after nov 2026.

    Retention of the majority in congress is irrelevant to the likelihood of
    armed conflict. Unless you're saying that the Left will be starting one
    if they're not in control.

    Actually that's probably accurate. Never mind.

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  • From Wilson@Wilson@nowhere.invalid to alt.buddha.short.fat.guy,alt.messianic on Fri Jun 26 13:52:31 2026
    From Newsgroup: alt.buddha.short.fat.guy

    On 6/26/2026 1:47 PM, dart200 wrote:
    On 6/26/26 9:30 AM, Wilson wrote:
    On 6/24/2026 10:51 PM, Noah Sombrero wrote:

    NY Times,

    June 24, 2026

    Why does our seemingly competitive two-party system produce so much
    stagnation and corruption?

    By David French

    ThererCOs a line from a speech that I keep thinking about.

    I wrote about it last month. Shane Massey, the Republican majority
    leader in the South Carolina Senate, spoke against a Trump-inspired
    plan to redistrict the state.

    rCLI will tell my Republican friends: Republicans are stronger when the
    Democrat Party is vibrant and viable,rCY Massey said. rCLWe are.
    Competition makes you better, yrCOall.rCY

    IrCOm reminded of a conversation I had many years ago with a friend who
    was then a senior executive at McDonaldrCOs (my favorite restaurant).
    When we spoke it was obvious that McDonaldrCOs had decisively won the
    burger wars, and that its chief competitors, Burger King and WendyrCOs,
    were no longer threats to dislodge Ronald McDonald from the Throne of
    Fries.

    I asked him if there was a sense of satisfaction at the company, and
    his response surprised me. rCLI have mixed feelings,rCY he said. rCLWe were >>> a great company when the competition was intense.rCY

    The innovation and energy required to stave off a challenger was
    invigorating and perhaps most crucially, it staved off stagnation.

    So why isnrCOt this happening in American politics? Our nation has two
    parties of near-identical size and power, at least in theory. Control
    of the national government routinely flips back and forth, and even
    when one side wins full control its margins of victory are extremely
    narrow.

    And yet, instead of creating innovation and energy, our political
    competition seems to be yielding stagnation and corruption. I donrCOt
    believe that stagnation and corruption exist equally on both sides of
    the aisle, but itrCOs hard to find anyone who believes the Democratic
    Party is healthy and vibrant, especially after two losses to Donald
    Trump.

    Even if the two parties arenrCOt equally corrupt, they do share a
    different common characteristic: TheyrCOre equally repulsive to the
    public.

    A Gallup poll in January found that 45 percent of Americans identify
    as independents, a record since Gallup began regular polling in 1988.
    Equal percentages of adults, 27 percent, identify as Republicans or as
    Democrats.

    This doesnrCOt mean that neither side can win. When the public is
    disgusted with the current leadership, it has but one other
    alternative. Many voters are voting against incumbents more than
    theyrCOre endorsing their challengers.

    If the competition between McDonaldrCOs and Burger King gave us tastier
    fries, somehow the competition between Republicans and Democrats is
    giving us rotten politics.

    But what if we donrCOt actually have a competitive two-party system?
    What if our nation actually has two one-party systems, instead? And if
    the United States has two one-party systems, then that means that each
    way they turn voters are confronted with the arrogance, stagnation and
    corruption that almost always disfigures single-party rule.

    The best illustration of this reality is found in state government
    rCLtrifectas.rCY ThatrCOs the term for a state where one party controls the >>> governorrCOs mansion and both houses of the state legislature. As of
    this month, there are 23 Republican trifectas and 16 Democratic ones.
    That leaves 11 states with divided governments.

    Republicans may govern more states, but Democratic states tend to be
    more populous. As a result, a roughly equal percentage of Americans
    live under total red or blue rule. As of January, 39.1 percent of
    Americans lived in blue trifecta states, and 41.5 percent lived in red
    trifecta states, which means that less than 20 percent of the
    population lives in a divided state.

    Combine trifecta state control with aggressive partisan gerrymanders,
    and you have exactly the situation in Congress that my colleague Tom
    Edsall described this week: rCLAn overwhelming majority of House members >>> run in districts that are safe in the general election, where the only
    threat to an incumbent is from a more ideologically extreme challenger
    in the primary.rCY

    Another way of putting it is that the other side is so weak in so many
    states and congressional districts that politicians can build entire
    careers without having to appeal to voters on the other side of the
    aisle.

    For example, even in a year of remarkable public discontent, in which
    the House may well change hands, the vast majority of members of
    Congress are completely safe. The Cook Political Report lists 186
    districts as solid Republican and 182 districts as solid Democrat.
    There are only 18 tossup races. If you add in the 20 races that merely
    lean in one direction or the other, that gives you a grand total of 38
    competitive races in a 435-member House of Representatives.

    As a result, one-party politicians are often born in the partiesrCO
    bases and inept at reaching anyone even a few inches to their
    ideological right or left. In fact, the very effort to reach out to
    the opposition is usually interpreted as weakness, a misguided
    compromise against an uncompromising foe.

    The art of compromise vanishes before our eyes. After all, generations
    of politicians now come from the roughly 80 percent of the country
    where compromise is almost always unnecessary. Compromises are
    internal only, as the party negotiates with itself. The opposition
    might as well not exist.

    The partisan majority in a single-party state will often radicalize.
    As IrCOve explained before, the law of group polarization suggests that
    when like-minded people deliberate, they tend to become more extreme.
    Red bubbles get redder, Blue bubbles get bluer.

    ItrCOs not just that the two sides separate ideologically. They also
    develop very different political cultures rCo to the extent that each
    side is completely convinced that the other side is just, well, weird.
    Our nation is full of radicalized people who donrCOt fully understand
    that theyrCOre radical because everyone they know agrees with everything >>> they say.

    IrCOve heard Republicans and Democrats use exactly the same rCLStar WarsrCY >>> reference to describe the other side. TheyrCOll say the other siderCOs
    convention, for example, is like the Mos Eisley Cantina, the bar in
    rCLStar WarsrCY filled with bizarre creatures from across the galaxy.

    Compounding the problem, the sheer size of the red and blue trifectas
    mean that they define the nature of the respective parties, not
    swing-state politicians rCo even though swing-state politicians are
    indispensable to party control. The single-party partisans tell us
    what it means to be a rCLrealrCY Republican or a rCLrealrCY Democrat and often
    despise the rare politicians from their own party who can win on
    hostile ground. TheyrCOre the squishes, after all.

    Politics is always vulnerable to corruption, but single-party rule can
    be a virtual petri dish for favoritism and graft. We all know that
    institutions tend to be terrible at policing themselves, and when one
    party possesses complete control, it is rarely as vigilant at
    punishing its own as it is at pummeling the other side.

    Even swing states arenrCOt immune from the maladies of one-party rule.
    The states themselves are often carved up into one-party enclaves.

    President Trump is perhaps the ultimate example of what one-party rule
    in a two-party nation can produce. While he governs for himself (as
    many one-party politicians do), herCOs also vicious and vengeful to the
    other side, and so long as he keeps attacking the hated Democratic
    foe, his party will gladly cover for his corruption and graft.

    But if the Democrats challenge Trump with the products of their own
    one-party rule, with a candidate who canrCOt even begin to speak the
    language of the swing voter, much less the language of the disaffected
    Republican, then werCOre setting ourselves up for yet another lurch back >>> to the competing extreme.

    There is no easy way for Americans to change this dynamic. But perhaps
    rCo just perhaps rCo we can start by turning to those politicians whorCOve >>> proven that theyrCOre culturally and politically bilingual. They can win >>> on hostile (or purple) ground. One can think of Andy Beshear, the
    governor of Kentucky, or Josh Shapiro, the governor of Pennsylvania.
    On the Republican side, I can still remember when Charlie Baker, as
    governor of Massachusetts, was by some counts the most popular
    governor in America. In 2022, he recorded a stunning 74 percent
    approval rating.

    All of these politicians, though, suffer from the same vulnerability.
    The partisan base can believe theyrCOre weak, that theyrCOre not real
    Democrats or Republicans, mere DINOs or RINOs. But a party shouldnrCOt
    be defined by its most zealous ideologues. Why would a progressive in
    Brooklyn be a more authentic representative of the Democratic Party
    than a moderate in Tennessee? The same analysis applies to
    Republicans. You are not more Republican the more guns you own or the
    more often you go to church rCo that makes you a type of Republican, but >>> not the ideal form.

    There are many, many Republicans, for example, who will rejoice if
    Susan Collins loses in Maine. She voted to convict Trump, and which
    real Republican would do that? There should be no such thing as the
    model ideological candidate.

    To quote the Apostle Paul in 1 Corinthians, one body has many parts,
    and rCLthe eye cannot say to the hand, rCyI donrCOt need you!rCO And the head
    cannot say to the feet, rCyI donrCOt need you!rCOrCY The parties need
    ideological diversity. Groupthink is dangerous, no matter where it is
    found.

    IrCOd like to end a rather bleak newsletter with a dash of optimism. As
    the Gallup poll indicates, present trends cannot continue forever. If
    the number of independents continues to grow, and the share of
    partisans continues to shrink, the present system will grow more
    unstable. A diminishing percentage of Americans will not be able to
    hold the same amount of power.

    One-party rule can look imposing, but it is often fragile. It wasnrCOt
    that long ago, for example, when there was a different kind of
    one-party rule in the South, and then it shifted from Democratic to
    Republican. It wasnrCOt that long ago that California was a swing state, >>> or that Iowa was briefly part of the Democratic PartyrCOs blue wall.

    It might take time rCo far too much time rCo but when the single party
    fails, eventually the dormant second party revives, the logjam breaks
    and the system resets. But until then our one-party politics is
    undermining our two-party system, and our competition is reduced to
    determining which broken party will prevail.

    That's the first decent thing by French that you've ever posted here.

    As noted he didn't use the word oligarch and he also avoided saying
    uniparty, although both are implied.

    I think a new third party is going to happen one way or the other.
    That or maybe civil war.


    what even are we to go to war over???

    honestly if a significant majority wanted to deal with oligarchs...

    first we stop using their tech platforms

    second we stop consuming their media

    third we start consensus making ourselves

    fourth expand these initial steps globally and build a trans-cultural movement far beyond what any oligarch could even dream of...

    war is sooooo last century

    #god

    consumers really just need to wake the fuck up. how are guns going to accomplish anything if we can't even take these non-violent steps? like we're going to replace all of society if we can't even replace our basic tech platforms???


    Guns won't accomplish anything good. Except maybe clearing the field of opponents.

    Don't recommend.

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  • From Dude@punditster@gmail.com to alt.buddha.short.fat.guy on Fri Jun 26 12:05:52 2026
    From Newsgroup: alt.buddha.short.fat.guy

    On 6/25/2026 9:18 PM, Noah Sombrero wrote:
    On Thu, 25 Jun 2026 20:36:51 -0700, Dude <punditster@gmail.com> wrote:

    On 6/25/2026 3:44 PM, dart200 wrote:
    On 6/25/26 9:35 AM, Noah Sombrero wrote:
    On Wed, 24 Jun 2026 21:40:10 -0700, dart200
    <user7160@newsgrouper.org.invalid> wrote:

    On 6/24/26 9:17 PM, Noah Sombrero wrote:
    On Wed, 24 Jun 2026 20:39:28 -0700, dart200
    <user7160@newsgrouper.org.invalid> wrote:

    On 6/24/26 7:51 PM, Noah Sombrero wrote:

    NY Times,

    June 24, 2026

    Why does our seemingly competitive two-party system produce so much >>>>>>>> stagnation and corruption?

    because a duopoly isn't competition,

    and because it's actually one club of people: oligarchs


    By David French

    ThererCOs a line from a speech that I keep thinking about.

    I wrote about it last month. Shane Massey, the Republican majority >>>>>>>> leader in the South Carolina Senate, spoke against a Trump-inspired >>>>>>>> plan to redistrict the state.

    rCLI will tell my Republican friends: Republicans are stronger when the
    Democrat Party is vibrant and viable,rCY Massey said. rCLWe are. >>>>>>>> Competition makes you better, yrCOall.rCY

    IrCOm reminded of a conversation I had many years ago with a friend who
    was then a senior executive at McDonaldrCOs (my favorite restaurant). >>>>>>>
    (imagine ur favorite restaurant being mcdonalds ?)

    When we spoke it was obvious that McDonaldrCOs had decisively won the >>>>>>>> burger wars, and that its chief competitors, Burger King and WendyrCOs,
    were no longer threats to dislodge Ronald McDonald from the Throne of >>>>>>>> Fries.

    I asked him if there was a sense of satisfaction at the company, and >>>>>>>> his response surprised me. rCLI have mixed feelings,rCY he said. rCLWe were
    a great company when the competition was intense.rCY

    The innovation and energy required to stave off a challenger was >>>>>>>> invigorating and perhaps most crucially, it staved off stagnation. >>>>>>>>
    So why isnrCOt this happening in American politics? Our nation has two >>>>>>>> parties of near-identical size and power, at least in theory. Control >>>>>>>> of the national government routinely flips back and forth, and even >>>>>>>> when one side wins full control its margins of victory are extremely >>>>>>>> narrow.

    And yet, instead of creating innovation and energy, our political >>>>>>>> competition seems to be yielding stagnation and corruption. I donrCOt >>>>>>>> believe that stagnation and corruption exist equally on both sides of >>>>>>>> the aisle, but itrCOs hard to find anyone who believes the Democratic >>>>>>>> Party is healthy and vibrant, especially after two losses to Donald >>>>>>>> Trump.

    Even if the two parties arenrCOt equally corrupt, they do share a >>>>>>>> different common characteristic: TheyrCOre equally repulsive to the >>>>>>>> public.

    A Gallup poll in January found that 45 percent of Americans identify >>>>>>>> as independents, a record since Gallup began regular polling in 1988. >>>>>>>> Equal percentages of adults, 27 percent, identify as Republicans >>>>>>>> or as
    Democrats.

    This doesnrCOt mean that neither side can win. When the public is >>>>>>>> disgusted with the current leadership, it has but one other
    alternative. Many voters are voting against incumbents more than >>>>>>>> theyrCOre endorsing their challengers.

    If the competition between McDonaldrCOs and Burger King gave us tastier
    fries, somehow the competition between Republicans and Democrats is >>>>>>>> giving us rotten politics.

    But what if we donrCOt actually have a competitive two-party system? >>>>>>>> What if our nation actually has two one-party systems, instead? >>>>>>>> And if
    the United States has two one-party systems, then that means that >>>>>>>> each
    way they turn voters are confronted with the arrogance, stagnation >>>>>>>> and
    corruption that almost always disfigures single-party rule.

    The best illustration of this reality is found in state government >>>>>>>> rCLtrifectas.rCY ThatrCOs the term for a state where one party controls the
    governorrCOs mansion and both houses of the state legislature. As of >>>>>>>> this month, there are 23 Republican trifectas and 16 Democratic ones. >>>>>>>> That leaves 11 states with divided governments.

    Republicans may govern more states, but Democratic states tend to be >>>>>>>> more populous. As a result, a roughly equal percentage of Americans >>>>>>>> live under total red or blue rule. As of January, 39.1 percent of >>>>>>>> Americans lived in blue trifecta states, and 41.5 percent lived in >>>>>>>> red
    trifecta states, which means that less than 20 percent of the
    population lives in a divided state.

    Combine trifecta state control with aggressive partisan gerrymanders, >>>>>>>> and you have exactly the situation in Congress that my colleague Tom >>>>>>>> Edsall described this week: rCLAn overwhelming majority of House >>>>>>>> members
    run in districts that are safe in the general election, where the >>>>>>>> only
    threat to an incumbent is from a more ideologically extreme
    challenger
    in the primary.rCY

    Another way of putting it is that the other side is so weak in so >>>>>>>> many
    states and congressional districts that politicians can build entire >>>>>>>> careers without having to appeal to voters on the other side of the >>>>>>>> aisle.

    For example, even in a year of remarkable public discontent, in which >>>>>>>> the House may well change hands, the vast majority of members of >>>>>>>> Congress are completely safe. The Cook Political Report lists 186 >>>>>>>> districts as solid Republican and 182 districts as solid Democrat. >>>>>>>> There are only 18 tossup races. If you add in the 20 races that >>>>>>>> merely
    lean in one direction or the other, that gives you a grand total >>>>>>>> of 38
    competitive races in a 435-member House of Representatives.

    As a result, one-party politicians are often born in the partiesrCO >>>>>>>> bases and inept at reaching anyone even a few inches to their
    ideological right or left. In fact, the very effort to reach out to >>>>>>>> the opposition is usually interpreted as weakness, a misguided >>>>>>>> compromise against an uncompromising foe.

    The art of compromise vanishes before our eyes. After all,
    generations
    of politicians now come from the roughly 80 percent of the country >>>>>>>> where compromise is almost always unnecessary. Compromises are >>>>>>>> internal only, as the party negotiates with itself. The opposition >>>>>>>> might as well not exist.

    The partisan majority in a single-party state will often radicalize. >>>>>>>> As IrCOve explained before, the law of group polarization suggests that
    when like-minded people deliberate, they tend to become more extreme. >>>>>>>> Red bubbles get redder, Blue bubbles get bluer.

    ItrCOs not just that the two sides separate ideologically. They also >>>>>>>> develop very different political cultures rCo to the extent that each >>>>>>>> side is completely convinced that the other side is just, well, >>>>>>>> weird.
    Our nation is full of radicalized people who donrCOt fully understand >>>>>>>> that theyrCOre radical because everyone they know agrees with
    everything
    they say.

    IrCOve heard Republicans and Democrats use exactly the same rCLStar WarsrCY
    reference to describe the other side. TheyrCOll say the other siderCOs >>>>>>>> convention, for example, is like the Mos Eisley Cantina, the bar in >>>>>>>> rCLStar WarsrCY filled with bizarre creatures from across the galaxy. >>>>>>>>
    Compounding the problem, the sheer size of the red and blue trifectas >>>>>>>> mean that they define the nature of the respective parties, not >>>>>>>> swing-state politicians rCo even though swing-state politicians are >>>>>>>> indispensable to party control. The single-party partisans tell us >>>>>>>> what it means to be a rCLrealrCY Republican or a rCLrealrCY Democrat and
    often
    despise the rare politicians from their own party who can win on >>>>>>>> hostile ground. TheyrCOre the squishes, after all.

    Politics is always vulnerable to corruption, but single-party rule >>>>>>>> can
    be a virtual petri dish for favoritism and graft. We all know that >>>>>>>> institutions tend to be terrible at policing themselves, and when one >>>>>>>> party possesses complete control, it is rarely as vigilant at
    punishing its own as it is at pummeling the other side.

    Even swing states arenrCOt immune from the maladies of one-party rule. >>>>>>>> The states themselves are often carved up into one-party enclaves. >>>>>>>>
    President Trump is perhaps the ultimate example of what one-party >>>>>>>> rule
    in a two-party nation can produce. While he governs for himself (as >>>>>>>> many one-party politicians do), herCOs also vicious and vengeful to the
    other side, and so long as he keeps attacking the hated Democratic >>>>>>>> foe, his party will gladly cover for his corruption and graft. >>>>>>>>
    But if the Democrats challenge Trump with the products of their own >>>>>>>> one-party rule, with a candidate who canrCOt even begin to speak the >>>>>>>> language of the swing voter, much less the language of the
    disaffected
    Republican, then werCOre setting ourselves up for yet another lurch >>>>>>>> back
    to the competing extreme.

    There is no easy way for Americans to change this dynamic. But >>>>>>>> perhaps
    rCo just perhaps rCo we can start by turning to those politicians whorCOve
    proven that theyrCOre culturally and politically bilingual. They can >>>>>>>> win
    on hostile (or purple) ground. One can think of Andy Beshear, the >>>>>>>> governor of Kentucky, or Josh Shapiro, the governor of Pennsylvania. >>>>>>>> On the Republican side, I can still remember when Charlie Baker, as >>>>>>>> governor of Massachusetts, was by some counts the most popular >>>>>>>> governor in America. In 2022, he recorded a stunning 74 percent >>>>>>>> approval rating.

    All of these politicians, though, suffer from the same vulnerability. >>>>>>>> The partisan base can believe theyrCOre weak, that theyrCOre not real >>>>>>>> Democrats or Republicans, mere DINOs or RINOs. But a party shouldnrCOt >>>>>>>> be defined by its most zealous ideologues. Why would a progressive in >>>>>>>> Brooklyn be a more authentic representative of the Democratic Party >>>>>>>> than a moderate in Tennessee? The same analysis applies to
    Republicans. You are not more Republican the more guns you own or the >>>>>>>> more often you go to church rCo that makes you a type of Republican, >>>>>>>> but
    not the ideal form.

    There are many, many Republicans, for example, who will rejoice if >>>>>>>> Susan Collins loses in Maine. She voted to convict Trump, and which >>>>>>>> real Republican would do that? There should be no such thing as the >>>>>>>> model ideological candidate.

    To quote the Apostle Paul in 1 Corinthians, one body has many parts, >>>>>>>> and rCLthe eye cannot say to the hand, rCyI donrCOt need you!rCO And the head
    cannot say to the feet, rCyI donrCOt need you!rCOrCY The parties need >>>>>>>> ideological diversity. Groupthink is dangerous, no matter where it is >>>>>>>> found.

    IrCOd like to end a rather bleak newsletter with a dash of optimism. As
    the Gallup poll indicates, present trends cannot continue forever. If >>>>>>>> the number of independents continues to grow, and the share of >>>>>>>> partisans continues to shrink, the present system will grow more >>>>>>>> unstable. A diminishing percentage of Americans will not be able to >>>>>>>> hold the same amount of power.

    One-party rule can look imposing, but it is often fragile. It wasnrCOt >>>>>>>> that long ago, for example, when there was a different kind of >>>>>>>> one-party rule in the South, and then it shifted from Democratic to >>>>>>>> Republican. It wasnrCOt that long ago that California was a swing >>>>>>>> state,
    or that Iowa was briefly part of the Democratic PartyrCOs blue wall. >>>>>>>>
    It might take time rCo far too much time rCo but when the single party >>>>>>>> fails, eventually the dormant second party revives, the logjam breaks >>>>>>>> and the system resets. But until then our one-party politics is >>>>>>>> undermining our two-party system, and our competition is reduced to >>>>>>>> determining which broken party will prevail.

    dissolve the senate, it was just a needless check on actual democracy >>>>>>>
    reform the executive presidency into an executive council (5 reps >>>>>>> from 3
    parties: 2,2,1) requiring consensus decision making where each can >>>>>>> vote
    pass/neg/block - majority to pass, no blocking votes

    Shared power has been tried a number of times since the romans tried >>>>>> it first.-a So far it has not worked well.

    i'm literally just recommending what is currently working out well in >>>>> switzerland

    and there no division of territory here, they are not ruling and making >>>>> decrees from different locations like the romans tried several times in >>>>> their later stages. they deliberating as a council until consensus with >>>>> each other is reached, and any one of them can block a policy entirely. >>>>
    This is pertinent.-a Rome conquered more territory than it could
    reasonably administer.-a It also helps that switz is a small country.
    Small countries tend to enjoy greater social cohesion.

    switzerland has 3 official languages because it's split into 3 regions
    with different dominate languages, even today. and up until modern
    tunnel boring the country was rather difficult to traverse.


    So, rather than solving the towering ambition problem, they have
    avoided it by having leaders that lack that characteristic.

    Not a solution to the underlying issue.-a And for them, likely not a
    long term solution.-a Sure you might beat the odds and find 3 good guys >>>> once.-a What are the odds then, of doing that again next time?

    it's 5: 2 from the top party, 2 from the second party, and 1 from a
    third. and they can only pass policy with consensus. i don't know how
    this remove the problem of ambition ... it's a structural shift in the
    requirements to pass policy

    u can't just elect one dumbfuck into power and give everyone else the
    run around, u have five from three different voting blocks, and so it
    requires putting in people who can actually deliberate

    It kind of looks like Nick top-posted and changed the subject from the
    burger war, to the oligarchs in Russia, then changed the subject again
    to Switzerland following Noah's assertion that the Romans did it and so
    Nick cross-posted to alt.messianic.

    I see no such manipulations. The subject remains burger war. I don't
    care guys make it whatever you like.

    Since they both ignored my post, I'm interjecting it again:

    Apparently the reason Switzerland is so successful because it's a
    Libertarian free market mix of social and cultural conservatism with
    strong economic and political liberalism.

    And I asserted and still assert that:

    That must make you feel good. But it does not explain dart's
    assertion.

    Which you have ignored.

    Wait! What?

    So, I'm agreeing with both Nick and David, but I'm not explaining Nick's assertion?
    Why can't Nick explain why Switzerland is a good example of consensus governing?

    Apparently Switzerland is a Libertarian free market mix of social and
    cultural conservatism with strong economic and political liberalism.

    Swiss conservatism is generally cautious and traditional (resisting
    rapid changes), while its liberalism favors free-market economics,
    robust civil liberties, and the world's most extensive system of direct democracy." - Wikipedia


    "Swiss conservatism is generally cautious and traditional (resisting
    rapid changes), while its liberalism favors free-market economics,
    robust civil liberties, and the world's most extensive system of direct
    democracy." - Wikipedia



    The problem that govt's mostly fail to address is what to do with
    people with towering ambition?-a Lock them up and allow them no access >>>>>> to media?


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  • From Dude@punditster@gmail.com to alt.buddha.short.fat.guy,alt.messianic on Fri Jun 26 12:13:10 2026
    From Newsgroup: alt.buddha.short.fat.guy

    On 6/26/2026 10:52 AM, Wilson wrote:
    On 6/26/2026 1:47 PM, dart200 wrote:
    On 6/26/26 9:30 AM, Wilson wrote:
    On 6/24/2026 10:51 PM, Noah Sombrero wrote:

    NY Times,

    June 24, 2026

    Why does our seemingly competitive two-party system produce so much
    stagnation and corruption?

    By David French

    ThererCOs a line from a speech that I keep thinking about.

    I wrote about it last month. Shane Massey, the Republican majority
    leader in the South Carolina Senate, spoke against a Trump-inspired
    plan to redistrict the state.

    rCLI will tell my Republican friends: Republicans are stronger when the >>>> Democrat Party is vibrant and viable,rCY Massey said. rCLWe are.
    Competition makes you better, yrCOall.rCY

    IrCOm reminded of a conversation I had many years ago with a friend who >>>> was then a senior executive at McDonaldrCOs (my favorite restaurant).
    When we spoke it was obvious that McDonaldrCOs had decisively won the
    burger wars, and that its chief competitors, Burger King and WendyrCOs, >>>> were no longer threats to dislodge Ronald McDonald from the Throne of
    Fries.

    I asked him if there was a sense of satisfaction at the company, and
    his response surprised me. rCLI have mixed feelings,rCY he said. rCLWe were
    a great company when the competition was intense.rCY

    The innovation and energy required to stave off a challenger was
    invigorating and perhaps most crucially, it staved off stagnation.

    So why isnrCOt this happening in American politics? Our nation has two >>>> parties of near-identical size and power, at least in theory. Control
    of the national government routinely flips back and forth, and even
    when one side wins full control its margins of victory are extremely
    narrow.

    And yet, instead of creating innovation and energy, our political
    competition seems to be yielding stagnation and corruption. I donrCOt
    believe that stagnation and corruption exist equally on both sides of
    the aisle, but itrCOs hard to find anyone who believes the Democratic
    Party is healthy and vibrant, especially after two losses to Donald
    Trump.

    Even if the two parties arenrCOt equally corrupt, they do share a
    different common characteristic: TheyrCOre equally repulsive to the
    public.

    A Gallup poll in January found that 45 percent of Americans identify
    as independents, a record since Gallup began regular polling in 1988.
    Equal percentages of adults, 27 percent, identify as Republicans or as >>>> Democrats.

    This doesnrCOt mean that neither side can win. When the public is
    disgusted with the current leadership, it has but one other
    alternative. Many voters are voting against incumbents more than
    theyrCOre endorsing their challengers.

    If the competition between McDonaldrCOs and Burger King gave us tastier >>>> fries, somehow the competition between Republicans and Democrats is
    giving us rotten politics.

    But what if we donrCOt actually have a competitive two-party system?
    What if our nation actually has two one-party systems, instead? And if >>>> the United States has two one-party systems, then that means that each >>>> way they turn voters are confronted with the arrogance, stagnation and >>>> corruption that almost always disfigures single-party rule.

    The best illustration of this reality is found in state government
    rCLtrifectas.rCY ThatrCOs the term for a state where one party controls the
    governorrCOs mansion and both houses of the state legislature. As of
    this month, there are 23 Republican trifectas and 16 Democratic ones.
    That leaves 11 states with divided governments.

    Republicans may govern more states, but Democratic states tend to be
    more populous. As a result, a roughly equal percentage of Americans
    live under total red or blue rule. As of January, 39.1 percent of
    Americans lived in blue trifecta states, and 41.5 percent lived in red >>>> trifecta states, which means that less than 20 percent of the
    population lives in a divided state.

    Combine trifecta state control with aggressive partisan gerrymanders,
    and you have exactly the situation in Congress that my colleague Tom
    Edsall described this week: rCLAn overwhelming majority of House members >>>> run in districts that are safe in the general election, where the only >>>> threat to an incumbent is from a more ideologically extreme challenger >>>> in the primary.rCY

    Another way of putting it is that the other side is so weak in so many >>>> states and congressional districts that politicians can build entire
    careers without having to appeal to voters on the other side of the
    aisle.

    For example, even in a year of remarkable public discontent, in which
    the House may well change hands, the vast majority of members of
    Congress are completely safe. The Cook Political Report lists 186
    districts as solid Republican and 182 districts as solid Democrat.
    There are only 18 tossup races. If you add in the 20 races that merely >>>> lean in one direction or the other, that gives you a grand total of 38 >>>> competitive races in a 435-member House of Representatives.

    As a result, one-party politicians are often born in the partiesrCO
    bases and inept at reaching anyone even a few inches to their
    ideological right or left. In fact, the very effort to reach out to
    the opposition is usually interpreted as weakness, a misguided
    compromise against an uncompromising foe.

    The art of compromise vanishes before our eyes. After all, generations >>>> of politicians now come from the roughly 80 percent of the country
    where compromise is almost always unnecessary. Compromises are
    internal only, as the party negotiates with itself. The opposition
    might as well not exist.

    The partisan majority in a single-party state will often radicalize.
    As IrCOve explained before, the law of group polarization suggests that >>>> when like-minded people deliberate, they tend to become more extreme.
    Red bubbles get redder, Blue bubbles get bluer.

    ItrCOs not just that the two sides separate ideologically. They also
    develop very different political cultures rCo to the extent that each
    side is completely convinced that the other side is just, well, weird. >>>> Our nation is full of radicalized people who donrCOt fully understand
    that theyrCOre radical because everyone they know agrees with everything >>>> they say.

    IrCOve heard Republicans and Democrats use exactly the same rCLStar WarsrCY
    reference to describe the other side. TheyrCOll say the other siderCOs >>>> convention, for example, is like the Mos Eisley Cantina, the bar in
    rCLStar WarsrCY filled with bizarre creatures from across the galaxy.

    Compounding the problem, the sheer size of the red and blue trifectas
    mean that they define the nature of the respective parties, not
    swing-state politicians rCo even though swing-state politicians are
    indispensable to party control. The single-party partisans tell us
    what it means to be a rCLrealrCY Republican or a rCLrealrCY Democrat and often
    despise the rare politicians from their own party who can win on
    hostile ground. TheyrCOre the squishes, after all.

    Politics is always vulnerable to corruption, but single-party rule can >>>> be a virtual petri dish for favoritism and graft. We all know that
    institutions tend to be terrible at policing themselves, and when one
    party possesses complete control, it is rarely as vigilant at
    punishing its own as it is at pummeling the other side.

    Even swing states arenrCOt immune from the maladies of one-party rule. >>>> The states themselves are often carved up into one-party enclaves.

    President Trump is perhaps the ultimate example of what one-party rule >>>> in a two-party nation can produce. While he governs for himself (as
    many one-party politicians do), herCOs also vicious and vengeful to the >>>> other side, and so long as he keeps attacking the hated Democratic
    foe, his party will gladly cover for his corruption and graft.

    But if the Democrats challenge Trump with the products of their own
    one-party rule, with a candidate who canrCOt even begin to speak the
    language of the swing voter, much less the language of the disaffected >>>> Republican, then werCOre setting ourselves up for yet another lurch back >>>> to the competing extreme.

    There is no easy way for Americans to change this dynamic. But perhaps >>>> rCo just perhaps rCo we can start by turning to those politicians whorCOve >>>> proven that theyrCOre culturally and politically bilingual. They can win >>>> on hostile (or purple) ground. One can think of Andy Beshear, the
    governor of Kentucky, or Josh Shapiro, the governor of Pennsylvania.
    On the Republican side, I can still remember when Charlie Baker, as
    governor of Massachusetts, was by some counts the most popular
    governor in America. In 2022, he recorded a stunning 74 percent
    approval rating.

    All of these politicians, though, suffer from the same vulnerability.
    The partisan base can believe theyrCOre weak, that theyrCOre not real
    Democrats or Republicans, mere DINOs or RINOs. But a party shouldnrCOt >>>> be defined by its most zealous ideologues. Why would a progressive in
    Brooklyn be a more authentic representative of the Democratic Party
    than a moderate in Tennessee? The same analysis applies to
    Republicans. You are not more Republican the more guns you own or the
    more often you go to church rCo that makes you a type of Republican, but >>>> not the ideal form.

    There are many, many Republicans, for example, who will rejoice if
    Susan Collins loses in Maine. She voted to convict Trump, and which
    real Republican would do that? There should be no such thing as the
    model ideological candidate.

    To quote the Apostle Paul in 1 Corinthians, one body has many parts,
    and rCLthe eye cannot say to the hand, rCyI donrCOt need you!rCO And the head
    cannot say to the feet, rCyI donrCOt need you!rCOrCY The parties need
    ideological diversity. Groupthink is dangerous, no matter where it is
    found.

    IrCOd like to end a rather bleak newsletter with a dash of optimism. As >>>> the Gallup poll indicates, present trends cannot continue forever. If
    the number of independents continues to grow, and the share of
    partisans continues to shrink, the present system will grow more
    unstable. A diminishing percentage of Americans will not be able to
    hold the same amount of power.

    One-party rule can look imposing, but it is often fragile. It wasnrCOt >>>> that long ago, for example, when there was a different kind of
    one-party rule in the South, and then it shifted from Democratic to
    Republican. It wasnrCOt that long ago that California was a swing state, >>>> or that Iowa was briefly part of the Democratic PartyrCOs blue wall.

    It might take time rCo far too much time rCo but when the single party >>>> fails, eventually the dormant second party revives, the logjam breaks
    and the system resets. But until then our one-party politics is
    undermining our two-party system, and our competition is reduced to
    determining which broken party will prevail.

    That's the first decent thing by French that you've ever posted here.

    As noted he didn't use the word oligarch and he also avoided saying
    uniparty, although both are implied.

    I think a new third party is going to happen one way or the other.
    That or maybe civil war.


    what even are we to go to war over???

    honestly if a significant majority wanted to deal with oligarchs...

    first we stop using their tech platforms

    second we stop consuming their media

    third we start consensus making ourselves

    fourth expand these initial steps globally and build a trans-cultural
    movement far beyond what any oligarch could even dream of...

    -a-a> war is sooooo last century
    -a-a>
    -a-a> #god

    consumers really just need to wake the fuck up. how are guns going to
    accomplish anything if we can't even take these non-violent steps?
    like we're going to replace all of society if we can't even replace
    our basic tech platforms???


    Guns won't accomplish anything good. Except maybe clearing the field of opponents.

    Don't recommend.

    Nick claimed over on alt.messianic that Switzerland was a good example
    of consensus governing because of the liberal free market. There's no
    war there, so no need for a lot of guns. YMMV.

    They have a lot of Swiss Army knives. Just saying.
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  • From Dude@punditster@gmail.com to alt.buddha.short.fat.guy on Fri Jun 26 12:15:47 2026
    From Newsgroup: alt.buddha.short.fat.guy

    On 6/25/2026 9:18 PM, Noah Sombrero wrote:
    On Thu, 25 Jun 2026 18:56:10 -0700, Dude <punditster@gmail.com> wrote:

    On 6/25/2026 9:42 AM, Noah Sombrero wrote:
    On Thu, 25 Jun 2026 08:58:42 -0700, Dude <punditster@gmail.com> wrote:

    On 6/24/2026 8:39 PM, dart200 wrote:
    On 6/24/26 7:51 PM, Noah Sombrero wrote:

    NY Times,

    June 24, 2026

    Why does our seemingly competitive two-party system produce so much >>>>>> stagnation and corruption?

    because a duopoly isn't competition,

    A top-poster now, eh?

    and because it's actually one club of people: oligarchs

    Yes. I think that's what David French wrote, except he left out the word >>>> "oligarchs" - probably because he does not write biased opinions that
    confuse his readers. Oligarchs are in Russia - there's no parties - it"s >>>> an oligarchy.

    Very good point. You have actually forfeited any right to call that
    article propaganda. Are you ok with that?

    Nick is the informant that called the article propaganda by inserting
    the word "oligarch" in a top post. I'm not OK with that. YMMV.\

    Tough. Mommies are good for consoling such ouchies.

    David said nothing about Russian oligarchs. Why is that?




    By David French

    ThererCOs a line from a speech that I keep thinking about.

    I wrote about it last month. Shane Massey, the Republican majority >>>>>> leader in the South Carolina Senate, spoke against a Trump-inspired >>>>>> plan to redistrict the state.

    rCLI will tell my Republican friends: Republicans are stronger when the >>>>>> Democrat Party is vibrant and viable,rCY Massey said. rCLWe are.
    Competition makes you better, yrCOall.rCY

    IrCOm reminded of a conversation I had many years ago with a friend who >>>>>> was then a senior executive at McDonaldrCOs (my favorite restaurant). >>>>>
    (imagine ur favorite restaurant being mcdonalds ?)

    When we spoke it was obvious that McDonaldrCOs had decisively won the >>>>>> burger wars, and that its chief competitors, Burger King and WendyrCOs, >>>>>> were no longer threats to dislodge Ronald McDonald from the Throne of >>>>>> Fries.

    I asked him if there was a sense of satisfaction at the company, and >>>>>> his response surprised me. rCLI have mixed feelings,rCY he said. rCLWe were
    a great company when the competition was intense.rCY

    The innovation and energy required to stave off a challenger was
    invigorating and perhaps most crucially, it staved off stagnation. >>>>>>
    So why isnrCOt this happening in American politics? Our nation has two >>>>>> parties of near-identical size and power, at least in theory. Control >>>>>> of the national government routinely flips back and forth, and even >>>>>> when one side wins full control its margins of victory are extremely >>>>>> narrow.

    And yet, instead of creating innovation and energy, our political
    competition seems to be yielding stagnation and corruption. I donrCOt >>>>>> believe that stagnation and corruption exist equally on both sides of >>>>>> the aisle, but itrCOs hard to find anyone who believes the Democratic >>>>>> Party is healthy and vibrant, especially after two losses to Donald >>>>>> Trump.

    Even if the two parties arenrCOt equally corrupt, they do share a
    different common characteristic: TheyrCOre equally repulsive to the >>>>>> public.

    A Gallup poll in January found that 45 percent of Americans identify >>>>>> as independents, a record since Gallup began regular polling in 1988. >>>>>> Equal percentages of adults, 27 percent, identify as Republicans or as >>>>>> Democrats.

    This doesnrCOt mean that neither side can win. When the public is
    disgusted with the current leadership, it has but one other
    alternative. Many voters are voting against incumbents more than
    theyrCOre endorsing their challengers.

    If the competition between McDonaldrCOs and Burger King gave us tastier >>>>>> fries, somehow the competition between Republicans and Democrats is >>>>>> giving us rotten politics.

    But what if we donrCOt actually have a competitive two-party system? >>>>>> What if our nation actually has two one-party systems, instead? And if >>>>>> the United States has two one-party systems, then that means that each >>>>>> way they turn voters are confronted with the arrogance, stagnation and >>>>>> corruption that almost always disfigures single-party rule.

    The best illustration of this reality is found in state government >>>>>> rCLtrifectas.rCY ThatrCOs the term for a state where one party controls the
    governorrCOs mansion and both houses of the state legislature. As of >>>>>> this month, there are 23 Republican trifectas and 16 Democratic ones. >>>>>> That leaves 11 states with divided governments.

    Republicans may govern more states, but Democratic states tend to be >>>>>> more populous. As a result, a roughly equal percentage of Americans >>>>>> live under total red or blue rule. As of January, 39.1 percent of
    Americans lived in blue trifecta states, and 41.5 percent lived in red >>>>>> trifecta states, which means that less than 20 percent of the
    population lives in a divided state.

    Combine trifecta state control with aggressive partisan gerrymanders, >>>>>> and you have exactly the situation in Congress that my colleague Tom >>>>>> Edsall described this week: rCLAn overwhelming majority of House members >>>>>> run in districts that are safe in the general election, where the only >>>>>> threat to an incumbent is from a more ideologically extreme challenger >>>>>> in the primary.rCY

    Another way of putting it is that the other side is so weak in so many >>>>>> states and congressional districts that politicians can build entire >>>>>> careers without having to appeal to voters on the other side of the >>>>>> aisle.

    For example, even in a year of remarkable public discontent, in which >>>>>> the House may well change hands, the vast majority of members of
    Congress are completely safe. The Cook Political Report lists 186
    districts as solid Republican and 182 districts as solid Democrat. >>>>>> There are only 18 tossup races. If you add in the 20 races that merely >>>>>> lean in one direction or the other, that gives you a grand total of 38 >>>>>> competitive races in a 435-member House of Representatives.

    As a result, one-party politicians are often born in the partiesrCO >>>>>> bases and inept at reaching anyone even a few inches to their
    ideological right or left. In fact, the very effort to reach out to >>>>>> the opposition is usually interpreted as weakness, a misguided
    compromise against an uncompromising foe.

    The art of compromise vanishes before our eyes. After all, generations >>>>>> of politicians now come from the roughly 80 percent of the country >>>>>> where compromise is almost always unnecessary. Compromises are
    internal only, as the party negotiates with itself. The opposition >>>>>> might as well not exist.

    The partisan majority in a single-party state will often radicalize. >>>>>> As IrCOve explained before, the law of group polarization suggests that >>>>>> when like-minded people deliberate, they tend to become more extreme. >>>>>> Red bubbles get redder, Blue bubbles get bluer.

    ItrCOs not just that the two sides separate ideologically. They also >>>>>> develop very different political cultures rCo to the extent that each >>>>>> side is completely convinced that the other side is just, well, weird. >>>>>> Our nation is full of radicalized people who donrCOt fully understand >>>>>> that theyrCOre radical because everyone they know agrees with everything >>>>>> they say.

    IrCOve heard Republicans and Democrats use exactly the same rCLStar WarsrCY
    reference to describe the other side. TheyrCOll say the other siderCOs >>>>>> convention, for example, is like the Mos Eisley Cantina, the bar in >>>>>> rCLStar WarsrCY filled with bizarre creatures from across the galaxy. >>>>>>
    Compounding the problem, the sheer size of the red and blue trifectas >>>>>> mean that they define the nature of the respective parties, not
    swing-state politicians rCo even though swing-state politicians are >>>>>> indispensable to party control. The single-party partisans tell us >>>>>> what it means to be a rCLrealrCY Republican or a rCLrealrCY Democrat and often
    despise the rare politicians from their own party who can win on
    hostile ground. TheyrCOre the squishes, after all.

    Politics is always vulnerable to corruption, but single-party rule can >>>>>> be a virtual petri dish for favoritism and graft. We all know that >>>>>> institutions tend to be terrible at policing themselves, and when one >>>>>> party possesses complete control, it is rarely as vigilant at
    punishing its own as it is at pummeling the other side.

    Even swing states arenrCOt immune from the maladies of one-party rule. >>>>>> The states themselves are often carved up into one-party enclaves. >>>>>>
    President Trump is perhaps the ultimate example of what one-party rule >>>>>> in a two-party nation can produce. While he governs for himself (as >>>>>> many one-party politicians do), herCOs also vicious and vengeful to the >>>>>> other side, and so long as he keeps attacking the hated Democratic >>>>>> foe, his party will gladly cover for his corruption and graft.

    But if the Democrats challenge Trump with the products of their own >>>>>> one-party rule, with a candidate who canrCOt even begin to speak the >>>>>> language of the swing voter, much less the language of the disaffected >>>>>> Republican, then werCOre setting ourselves up for yet another lurch back >>>>>> to the competing extreme.

    There is no easy way for Americans to change this dynamic. But perhaps >>>>>> rCo just perhaps rCo we can start by turning to those politicians whorCOve
    proven that theyrCOre culturally and politically bilingual. They can win >>>>>> on hostile (or purple) ground. One can think of Andy Beshear, the
    governor of Kentucky, or Josh Shapiro, the governor of Pennsylvania. >>>>>> On the Republican side, I can still remember when Charlie Baker, as >>>>>> governor of Massachusetts, was by some counts the most popular
    governor in America. In 2022, he recorded a stunning 74 percent
    approval rating.

    All of these politicians, though, suffer from the same vulnerability. >>>>>> The partisan base can believe theyrCOre weak, that theyrCOre not real >>>>>> Democrats or Republicans, mere DINOs or RINOs. But a party shouldnrCOt >>>>>> be defined by its most zealous ideologues. Why would a progressive in >>>>>> Brooklyn be a more authentic representative of the Democratic Party >>>>>> than a moderate in Tennessee? The same analysis applies to
    Republicans. You are not more Republican the more guns you own or the >>>>>> more often you go to church rCo that makes you a type of Republican, but >>>>>> not the ideal form.

    There are many, many Republicans, for example, who will rejoice if >>>>>> Susan Collins loses in Maine. She voted to convict Trump, and which >>>>>> real Republican would do that? There should be no such thing as the >>>>>> model ideological candidate.

    To quote the Apostle Paul in 1 Corinthians, one body has many parts, >>>>>> and rCLthe eye cannot say to the hand, rCyI donrCOt need you!rCO And the head
    cannot say to the feet, rCyI donrCOt need you!rCOrCY The parties need >>>>>> ideological diversity. Groupthink is dangerous, no matter where it is >>>>>> found.

    IrCOd like to end a rather bleak newsletter with a dash of optimism. As >>>>>> the Gallup poll indicates, present trends cannot continue forever. If >>>>>> the number of independents continues to grow, and the share of
    partisans continues to shrink, the present system will grow more
    unstable. A diminishing percentage of Americans will not be able to >>>>>> hold the same amount of power.

    One-party rule can look imposing, but it is often fragile. It wasnrCOt >>>>>> that long ago, for example, when there was a different kind of
    one-party rule in the South, and then it shifted from Democratic to >>>>>> Republican. It wasnrCOt that long ago that California was a swing state, >>>>>> or that Iowa was briefly part of the Democratic PartyrCOs blue wall. >>>>>>
    It might take time rCo far too much time rCo but when the single party >>>>>> fails, eventually the dormant second party revives, the logjam breaks >>>>>> and the system resets. But until then our one-party politics is
    undermining our two-party system, and our competition is reduced to >>>>>> determining which broken party will prevail.

    dissolve the senate, it was just a needless check on actual democracy >>>>>
    reform the executive presidency into an executive council (5 reps from 3 >>>>> parties: 2,2,1) requiring consensus decision making where each can vote >>>>> pass/neg/block - majority to pass, no blocking votes


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  • From Noah Sombrero@fedora@fea.st to alt.buddha.short.fat.guy on Fri Jun 26 18:13:23 2026
    From Newsgroup: alt.buddha.short.fat.guy

    On Fri, 26 Jun 2026 12:05:52 -0700, Dude <punditster@gmail.com> wrote:

    On 6/25/2026 9:18 PM, Noah Sombrero wrote:
    On Thu, 25 Jun 2026 20:36:51 -0700, Dude <punditster@gmail.com> wrote:

    On 6/25/2026 3:44 PM, dart200 wrote:
    On 6/25/26 9:35 AM, Noah Sombrero wrote:
    On Wed, 24 Jun 2026 21:40:10 -0700, dart200
    <user7160@newsgrouper.org.invalid> wrote:

    On 6/24/26 9:17 PM, Noah Sombrero wrote:
    On Wed, 24 Jun 2026 20:39:28 -0700, dart200
    <user7160@newsgrouper.org.invalid> wrote:

    On 6/24/26 7:51 PM, Noah Sombrero wrote:

    NY Times,

    June 24, 2026

    Why does our seemingly competitive two-party system produce so much >>>>>>>>> stagnation and corruption?

    because a duopoly isn't competition,

    and because it's actually one club of people: oligarchs


    By David French

    ThereAs a line from a speech that I keep thinking about.

    I wrote about it last month. Shane Massey, the Republican majority >>>>>>>>> leader in the South Carolina Senate, spoke against a Trump-inspired >>>>>>>>> plan to redistrict the state.

    oI will tell my Republican friends: Republicans are stronger when the >>>>>>>>> Democrat Party is vibrant and viable,o Massey said. oWe are. >>>>>>>>> Competition makes you better, yAall.o

    IAm reminded of a conversation I had many years ago with a friend who >>>>>>>>> was then a senior executive at McDonaldAs (my favorite restaurant). >>>>>>>>
    (imagine ur favorite restaurant being mcdonalds ?)

    When we spoke it was obvious that McDonaldAs had decisively won the >>>>>>>>> burger wars, and that its chief competitors, Burger King and WendyAs, >>>>>>>>> were no longer threats to dislodge Ronald McDonald from the Throne of >>>>>>>>> Fries.

    I asked him if there was a sense of satisfaction at the company, and >>>>>>>>> his response surprised me. oI have mixed feelings,o he said. oWe were >>>>>>>>> a great company when the competition was intense.o

    The innovation and energy required to stave off a challenger was >>>>>>>>> invigorating and perhaps most crucially, it staved off stagnation. >>>>>>>>>
    So why isnAt this happening in American politics? Our nation has two >>>>>>>>> parties of near-identical size and power, at least in theory. Control >>>>>>>>> of the national government routinely flips back and forth, and even >>>>>>>>> when one side wins full control its margins of victory are extremely >>>>>>>>> narrow.

    And yet, instead of creating innovation and energy, our political >>>>>>>>> competition seems to be yielding stagnation and corruption. I donAt >>>>>>>>> believe that stagnation and corruption exist equally on both sides of >>>>>>>>> the aisle, but itAs hard to find anyone who believes the Democratic >>>>>>>>> Party is healthy and vibrant, especially after two losses to Donald >>>>>>>>> Trump.

    Even if the two parties arenAt equally corrupt, they do share a >>>>>>>>> different common characteristic: TheyAre equally repulsive to the >>>>>>>>> public.

    A Gallup poll in January found that 45 percent of Americans identify >>>>>>>>> as independents, a record since Gallup began regular polling in 1988. >>>>>>>>> Equal percentages of adults, 27 percent, identify as Republicans >>>>>>>>> or as
    Democrats.

    This doesnAt mean that neither side can win. When the public is >>>>>>>>> disgusted with the current leadership, it has but one other
    alternative. Many voters are voting against incumbents more than >>>>>>>>> theyAre endorsing their challengers.

    If the competition between McDonaldAs and Burger King gave us tastier >>>>>>>>> fries, somehow the competition between Republicans and Democrats is >>>>>>>>> giving us rotten politics.

    But what if we donAt actually have a competitive two-party system? >>>>>>>>> What if our nation actually has two one-party systems, instead? >>>>>>>>> And if
    the United States has two one-party systems, then that means that >>>>>>>>> each
    way they turn voters are confronted with the arrogance, stagnation >>>>>>>>> and
    corruption that almost always disfigures single-party rule.

    The best illustration of this reality is found in state government >>>>>>>>> otrifectas.o ThatAs the term for a state where one party controls the >>>>>>>>> governorAs mansion and both houses of the state legislature. As of >>>>>>>>> this month, there are 23 Republican trifectas and 16 Democratic ones. >>>>>>>>> That leaves 11 states with divided governments.

    Republicans may govern more states, but Democratic states tend to be >>>>>>>>> more populous. As a result, a roughly equal percentage of Americans >>>>>>>>> live under total red or blue rule. As of January, 39.1 percent of >>>>>>>>> Americans lived in blue trifecta states, and 41.5 percent lived in >>>>>>>>> red
    trifecta states, which means that less than 20 percent of the >>>>>>>>> population lives in a divided state.

    Combine trifecta state control with aggressive partisan gerrymanders, >>>>>>>>> and you have exactly the situation in Congress that my colleague Tom >>>>>>>>> Edsall described this week: oAn overwhelming majority of House >>>>>>>>> members
    run in districts that are safe in the general election, where the >>>>>>>>> only
    threat to an incumbent is from a more ideologically extreme
    challenger
    in the primary.o

    Another way of putting it is that the other side is so weak in so >>>>>>>>> many
    states and congressional districts that politicians can build entire >>>>>>>>> careers without having to appeal to voters on the other side of the >>>>>>>>> aisle.

    For example, even in a year of remarkable public discontent, in which >>>>>>>>> the House may well change hands, the vast majority of members of >>>>>>>>> Congress are completely safe. The Cook Political Report lists 186 >>>>>>>>> districts as solid Republican and 182 districts as solid Democrat. >>>>>>>>> There are only 18 tossup races. If you add in the 20 races that >>>>>>>>> merely
    lean in one direction or the other, that gives you a grand total >>>>>>>>> of 38
    competitive races in a 435-member House of Representatives.

    As a result, one-party politicians are often born in the partiesA >>>>>>>>> bases and inept at reaching anyone even a few inches to their >>>>>>>>> ideological right or left. In fact, the very effort to reach out to >>>>>>>>> the opposition is usually interpreted as weakness, a misguided >>>>>>>>> compromise against an uncompromising foe.

    The art of compromise vanishes before our eyes. After all,
    generations
    of politicians now come from the roughly 80 percent of the country >>>>>>>>> where compromise is almost always unnecessary. Compromises are >>>>>>>>> internal only, as the party negotiates with itself. The opposition >>>>>>>>> might as well not exist.

    The partisan majority in a single-party state will often radicalize. >>>>>>>>> As IAve explained before, the law of group polarization suggests that >>>>>>>>> when like-minded people deliberate, they tend to become more extreme. >>>>>>>>> Red bubbles get redder, Blue bubbles get bluer.

    ItAs not just that the two sides separate ideologically. They also >>>>>>>>> develop very different political cultures u to the extent that each >>>>>>>>> side is completely convinced that the other side is just, well, >>>>>>>>> weird.
    Our nation is full of radicalized people who donAt fully understand >>>>>>>>> that theyAre radical because everyone they know agrees with
    everything
    they say.

    IAve heard Republicans and Democrats use exactly the same oStar Warso >>>>>>>>> reference to describe the other side. TheyAll say the other sideAs >>>>>>>>> convention, for example, is like the Mos Eisley Cantina, the bar in >>>>>>>>> oStar Warso filled with bizarre creatures from across the galaxy. >>>>>>>>>
    Compounding the problem, the sheer size of the red and blue trifectas >>>>>>>>> mean that they define the nature of the respective parties, not >>>>>>>>> swing-state politicians u even though swing-state politicians are >>>>>>>>> indispensable to party control. The single-party partisans tell us >>>>>>>>> what it means to be a orealo Republican or a orealo Democrat and >>>>>>>>> often
    despise the rare politicians from their own party who can win on >>>>>>>>> hostile ground. TheyAre the squishes, after all.

    Politics is always vulnerable to corruption, but single-party rule >>>>>>>>> can
    be a virtual petri dish for favoritism and graft. We all know that >>>>>>>>> institutions tend to be terrible at policing themselves, and when one >>>>>>>>> party possesses complete control, it is rarely as vigilant at >>>>>>>>> punishing its own as it is at pummeling the other side.

    Even swing states arenAt immune from the maladies of one-party rule. >>>>>>>>> The states themselves are often carved up into one-party enclaves. >>>>>>>>>
    President Trump is perhaps the ultimate example of what one-party >>>>>>>>> rule
    in a two-party nation can produce. While he governs for himself (as >>>>>>>>> many one-party politicians do), heAs also vicious and vengeful to the >>>>>>>>> other side, and so long as he keeps attacking the hated Democratic >>>>>>>>> foe, his party will gladly cover for his corruption and graft. >>>>>>>>>
    But if the Democrats challenge Trump with the products of their own >>>>>>>>> one-party rule, with a candidate who canAt even begin to speak the >>>>>>>>> language of the swing voter, much less the language of the
    disaffected
    Republican, then weAre setting ourselves up for yet another lurch >>>>>>>>> back
    to the competing extreme.

    There is no easy way for Americans to change this dynamic. But >>>>>>>>> perhaps
    u just perhaps u we can start by turning to those politicians whoAve >>>>>>>>> proven that theyAre culturally and politically bilingual. They can >>>>>>>>> win
    on hostile (or purple) ground. One can think of Andy Beshear, the >>>>>>>>> governor of Kentucky, or Josh Shapiro, the governor of Pennsylvania. >>>>>>>>> On the Republican side, I can still remember when Charlie Baker, as >>>>>>>>> governor of Massachusetts, was by some counts the most popular >>>>>>>>> governor in America. In 2022, he recorded a stunning 74 percent >>>>>>>>> approval rating.

    All of these politicians, though, suffer from the same vulnerability. >>>>>>>>> The partisan base can believe theyAre weak, that theyAre not real >>>>>>>>> Democrats or Republicans, mere DINOs or RINOs. But a party shouldnAt >>>>>>>>> be defined by its most zealous ideologues. Why would a progressive in >>>>>>>>> Brooklyn be a more authentic representative of the Democratic Party >>>>>>>>> than a moderate in Tennessee? The same analysis applies to
    Republicans. You are not more Republican the more guns you own or the >>>>>>>>> more often you go to church u that makes you a type of Republican, >>>>>>>>> but
    not the ideal form.

    There are many, many Republicans, for example, who will rejoice if >>>>>>>>> Susan Collins loses in Maine. She voted to convict Trump, and which >>>>>>>>> real Republican would do that? There should be no such thing as the >>>>>>>>> model ideological candidate.

    To quote the Apostle Paul in 1 Corinthians, one body has many parts, >>>>>>>>> and othe eye cannot say to the hand, aI donAt need you!A And the head >>>>>>>>> cannot say to the feet, aI donAt need you!Ao The parties need >>>>>>>>> ideological diversity. Groupthink is dangerous, no matter where it is >>>>>>>>> found.

    IAd like to end a rather bleak newsletter with a dash of optimism. As >>>>>>>>> the Gallup poll indicates, present trends cannot continue forever. If >>>>>>>>> the number of independents continues to grow, and the share of >>>>>>>>> partisans continues to shrink, the present system will grow more >>>>>>>>> unstable. A diminishing percentage of Americans will not be able to >>>>>>>>> hold the same amount of power.

    One-party rule can look imposing, but it is often fragile. It wasnAt >>>>>>>>> that long ago, for example, when there was a different kind of >>>>>>>>> one-party rule in the South, and then it shifted from Democratic to >>>>>>>>> Republican. It wasnAt that long ago that California was a swing >>>>>>>>> state,
    or that Iowa was briefly part of the Democratic PartyAs blue wall. >>>>>>>>>
    It might take time u far too much time u but when the single party >>>>>>>>> fails, eventually the dormant second party revives, the logjam breaks >>>>>>>>> and the system resets. But until then our one-party politics is >>>>>>>>> undermining our two-party system, and our competition is reduced to >>>>>>>>> determining which broken party will prevail.

    dissolve the senate, it was just a needless check on actual democracy >>>>>>>>
    reform the executive presidency into an executive council (5 reps >>>>>>>> from 3
    parties: 2,2,1) requiring consensus decision making where each can >>>>>>>> vote
    pass/neg/block - majority to pass, no blocking votes

    Shared power has been tried a number of times since the romans tried >>>>>>> it first.a So far it has not worked well.

    i'm literally just recommending what is currently working out well in >>>>>> switzerland

    and there no division of territory here, they are not ruling and making >>>>>> decrees from different locations like the romans tried several times in >>>>>> their later stages. they deliberating as a council until consensus with >>>>>> each other is reached, and any one of them can block a policy entirely. >>>>>
    This is pertinent.a Rome conquered more territory than it could
    reasonably administer.a It also helps that switz is a small country. >>>>> Small countries tend to enjoy greater social cohesion.

    switzerland has 3 official languages because it's split into 3 regions >>>> with different dominate languages, even today. and up until modern
    tunnel boring the country was rather difficult to traverse.


    So, rather than solving the towering ambition problem, they have
    avoided it by having leaders that lack that characteristic.

    Not a solution to the underlying issue.a And for them, likely not a
    long term solution.a Sure you might beat the odds and find 3 good guys >>>>> once.a What are the odds then, of doing that again next time?

    it's 5: 2 from the top party, 2 from the second party, and 1 from a
    third. and they can only pass policy with consensus. i don't know how
    this remove the problem of ambition ... it's a structural shift in the >>>> requirements to pass policy

    u can't just elect one dumbfuck into power and give everyone else the
    run around, u have five from three different voting blocks, and so it
    requires putting in people who can actually deliberate

    It kind of looks like Nick top-posted and changed the subject from the
    burger war, to the oligarchs in Russia, then changed the subject again
    to Switzerland following Noah's assertion that the Romans did it and so
    Nick cross-posted to alt.messianic.

    I see no such manipulations. The subject remains burger war. I don't
    care guys make it whatever you like.

    Since they both ignored my post, I'm interjecting it again:

    Apparently the reason Switzerland is so successful because it's a
    Libertarian free market mix of social and cultural conservatism with
    strong economic and political liberalism.

    And I asserted and still assert that:

    That must make you feel good. But it does not explain dart's
    assertion.

    Which you have ignored.

    Wait! What?

    So, I'm agreeing with both Nick and David, but I'm not explaining Nick's >assertion?
    Why can't Nick explain why Switzerland is a good example of consensus >governing?

    Apparently Switzerland is a Libertarian free market mix of social and >cultural conservatism with strong economic and political liberalism.

    Swiss conservatism is generally cautious and traditional (resisting
    rapid changes), while its liberalism favors free-market economics,
    robust civil liberties, and the world's most extensive system of direct >democracy." - Wikipedia

    Sorry, that is not an explanation. It is however a bias confirmation
    if you were looking for one, which you were, right?

    "Swiss conservatism is generally cautious and traditional (resisting
    rapid changes), while its liberalism favors free-market economics,
    robust civil liberties, and the world's most extensive system of direct
    democracy." - Wikipedia



    The problem that govt's mostly fail to address is what to do with >>>>>>> people with towering ambition?a Lock them up and allow them no access >>>>>>> to media?

    --
    Noah Sombrero mustachioed villain
    Don't get political with me young man
    or I'll tie you to a railroad track and
    <<<talk>>> to <<<YOOooooo>>>
    Who dares to talk to El Sombrero?
    dares: Ned
    does not dare: Julian shrinks in horror and warns others away

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  • From Noah Sombrero@fedora@fea.st to alt.buddha.short.fat.guy on Fri Jun 26 18:14:17 2026
    From Newsgroup: alt.buddha.short.fat.guy

    On Fri, 26 Jun 2026 12:15:47 -0700, Dude <punditster@gmail.com> wrote:

    On 6/25/2026 9:18 PM, Noah Sombrero wrote:
    On Thu, 25 Jun 2026 18:56:10 -0700, Dude <punditster@gmail.com> wrote:

    On 6/25/2026 9:42 AM, Noah Sombrero wrote:
    On Thu, 25 Jun 2026 08:58:42 -0700, Dude <punditster@gmail.com> wrote: >>>>
    On 6/24/2026 8:39 PM, dart200 wrote:
    On 6/24/26 7:51 PM, Noah Sombrero wrote:

    NY Times,

    June 24, 2026

    Why does our seemingly competitive two-party system produce so much >>>>>>> stagnation and corruption?

    because a duopoly isn't competition,

    A top-poster now, eh?

    and because it's actually one club of people: oligarchs

    Yes. I think that's what David French wrote, except he left out the word >>>>> "oligarchs" - probably because he does not write biased opinions that >>>>> confuse his readers. Oligarchs are in Russia - there's no parties - it"s >>>>> an oligarchy.

    Very good point. You have actually forfeited any right to call that
    article propaganda. Are you ok with that?

    Nick is the informant that called the article propaganda by inserting
    the word "oligarch" in a top post. I'm not OK with that. YMMV.\

    Tough. Mommies are good for consoling such ouchies.

    David said nothing about Russian oligarchs. Why is that?

    Because stars are round and not square?





    By David French

    ThereAs a line from a speech that I keep thinking about.

    I wrote about it last month. Shane Massey, the Republican majority >>>>>>> leader in the South Carolina Senate, spoke against a Trump-inspired >>>>>>> plan to redistrict the state.

    oI will tell my Republican friends: Republicans are stronger when the >>>>>>> Democrat Party is vibrant and viable,o Massey said. oWe are.
    Competition makes you better, yAall.o

    IAm reminded of a conversation I had many years ago with a friend who >>>>>>> was then a senior executive at McDonaldAs (my favorite restaurant). >>>>>>
    (imagine ur favorite restaurant being mcdonalds ?)

    When we spoke it was obvious that McDonaldAs had decisively won the >>>>>>> burger wars, and that its chief competitors, Burger King and WendyAs, >>>>>>> were no longer threats to dislodge Ronald McDonald from the Throne of >>>>>>> Fries.

    I asked him if there was a sense of satisfaction at the company, and >>>>>>> his response surprised me. oI have mixed feelings,o he said. oWe were >>>>>>> a great company when the competition was intense.o

    The innovation and energy required to stave off a challenger was >>>>>>> invigorating and perhaps most crucially, it staved off stagnation. >>>>>>>
    So why isnAt this happening in American politics? Our nation has two >>>>>>> parties of near-identical size and power, at least in theory. Control >>>>>>> of the national government routinely flips back and forth, and even >>>>>>> when one side wins full control its margins of victory are extremely >>>>>>> narrow.

    And yet, instead of creating innovation and energy, our political >>>>>>> competition seems to be yielding stagnation and corruption. I donAt >>>>>>> believe that stagnation and corruption exist equally on both sides of >>>>>>> the aisle, but itAs hard to find anyone who believes the Democratic >>>>>>> Party is healthy and vibrant, especially after two losses to Donald >>>>>>> Trump.

    Even if the two parties arenAt equally corrupt, they do share a
    different common characteristic: TheyAre equally repulsive to the >>>>>>> public.

    A Gallup poll in January found that 45 percent of Americans identify >>>>>>> as independents, a record since Gallup began regular polling in 1988. >>>>>>> Equal percentages of adults, 27 percent, identify as Republicans or as >>>>>>> Democrats.

    This doesnAt mean that neither side can win. When the public is
    disgusted with the current leadership, it has but one other
    alternative. Many voters are voting against incumbents more than >>>>>>> theyAre endorsing their challengers.

    If the competition between McDonaldAs and Burger King gave us tastier >>>>>>> fries, somehow the competition between Republicans and Democrats is >>>>>>> giving us rotten politics.

    But what if we donAt actually have a competitive two-party system? >>>>>>> What if our nation actually has two one-party systems, instead? And if >>>>>>> the United States has two one-party systems, then that means that each >>>>>>> way they turn voters are confronted with the arrogance, stagnation and >>>>>>> corruption that almost always disfigures single-party rule.

    The best illustration of this reality is found in state government >>>>>>> otrifectas.o ThatAs the term for a state where one party controls the >>>>>>> governorAs mansion and both houses of the state legislature. As of >>>>>>> this month, there are 23 Republican trifectas and 16 Democratic ones. >>>>>>> That leaves 11 states with divided governments.

    Republicans may govern more states, but Democratic states tend to be >>>>>>> more populous. As a result, a roughly equal percentage of Americans >>>>>>> live under total red or blue rule. As of January, 39.1 percent of >>>>>>> Americans lived in blue trifecta states, and 41.5 percent lived in red >>>>>>> trifecta states, which means that less than 20 percent of the
    population lives in a divided state.

    Combine trifecta state control with aggressive partisan gerrymanders, >>>>>>> and you have exactly the situation in Congress that my colleague Tom >>>>>>> Edsall described this week: oAn overwhelming majority of House members >>>>>>> run in districts that are safe in the general election, where the only >>>>>>> threat to an incumbent is from a more ideologically extreme challenger >>>>>>> in the primary.o

    Another way of putting it is that the other side is so weak in so many >>>>>>> states and congressional districts that politicians can build entire >>>>>>> careers without having to appeal to voters on the other side of the >>>>>>> aisle.

    For example, even in a year of remarkable public discontent, in which >>>>>>> the House may well change hands, the vast majority of members of >>>>>>> Congress are completely safe. The Cook Political Report lists 186 >>>>>>> districts as solid Republican and 182 districts as solid Democrat. >>>>>>> There are only 18 tossup races. If you add in the 20 races that merely >>>>>>> lean in one direction or the other, that gives you a grand total of 38 >>>>>>> competitive races in a 435-member House of Representatives.

    As a result, one-party politicians are often born in the partiesA >>>>>>> bases and inept at reaching anyone even a few inches to their
    ideological right or left. In fact, the very effort to reach out to >>>>>>> the opposition is usually interpreted as weakness, a misguided
    compromise against an uncompromising foe.

    The art of compromise vanishes before our eyes. After all, generations >>>>>>> of politicians now come from the roughly 80 percent of the country >>>>>>> where compromise is almost always unnecessary. Compromises are
    internal only, as the party negotiates with itself. The opposition >>>>>>> might as well not exist.

    The partisan majority in a single-party state will often radicalize. >>>>>>> As IAve explained before, the law of group polarization suggests that >>>>>>> when like-minded people deliberate, they tend to become more extreme. >>>>>>> Red bubbles get redder, Blue bubbles get bluer.

    ItAs not just that the two sides separate ideologically. They also >>>>>>> develop very different political cultures u to the extent that each >>>>>>> side is completely convinced that the other side is just, well, weird. >>>>>>> Our nation is full of radicalized people who donAt fully understand >>>>>>> that theyAre radical because everyone they know agrees with everything >>>>>>> they say.

    IAve heard Republicans and Democrats use exactly the same oStar Warso >>>>>>> reference to describe the other side. TheyAll say the other sideAs >>>>>>> convention, for example, is like the Mos Eisley Cantina, the bar in >>>>>>> oStar Warso filled with bizarre creatures from across the galaxy. >>>>>>>
    Compounding the problem, the sheer size of the red and blue trifectas >>>>>>> mean that they define the nature of the respective parties, not
    swing-state politicians u even though swing-state politicians are >>>>>>> indispensable to party control. The single-party partisans tell us >>>>>>> what it means to be a orealo Republican or a orealo Democrat and often >>>>>>> despise the rare politicians from their own party who can win on >>>>>>> hostile ground. TheyAre the squishes, after all.

    Politics is always vulnerable to corruption, but single-party rule can >>>>>>> be a virtual petri dish for favoritism and graft. We all know that >>>>>>> institutions tend to be terrible at policing themselves, and when one >>>>>>> party possesses complete control, it is rarely as vigilant at
    punishing its own as it is at pummeling the other side.

    Even swing states arenAt immune from the maladies of one-party rule. >>>>>>> The states themselves are often carved up into one-party enclaves. >>>>>>>
    President Trump is perhaps the ultimate example of what one-party rule >>>>>>> in a two-party nation can produce. While he governs for himself (as >>>>>>> many one-party politicians do), heAs also vicious and vengeful to the >>>>>>> other side, and so long as he keeps attacking the hated Democratic >>>>>>> foe, his party will gladly cover for his corruption and graft.

    But if the Democrats challenge Trump with the products of their own >>>>>>> one-party rule, with a candidate who canAt even begin to speak the >>>>>>> language of the swing voter, much less the language of the disaffected >>>>>>> Republican, then weAre setting ourselves up for yet another lurch back >>>>>>> to the competing extreme.

    There is no easy way for Americans to change this dynamic. But perhaps >>>>>>> u just perhaps u we can start by turning to those politicians whoAve >>>>>>> proven that theyAre culturally and politically bilingual. They can win >>>>>>> on hostile (or purple) ground. One can think of Andy Beshear, the >>>>>>> governor of Kentucky, or Josh Shapiro, the governor of Pennsylvania. >>>>>>> On the Republican side, I can still remember when Charlie Baker, as >>>>>>> governor of Massachusetts, was by some counts the most popular
    governor in America. In 2022, he recorded a stunning 74 percent
    approval rating.

    All of these politicians, though, suffer from the same vulnerability. >>>>>>> The partisan base can believe theyAre weak, that theyAre not real >>>>>>> Democrats or Republicans, mere DINOs or RINOs. But a party shouldnAt >>>>>>> be defined by its most zealous ideologues. Why would a progressive in >>>>>>> Brooklyn be a more authentic representative of the Democratic Party >>>>>>> than a moderate in Tennessee? The same analysis applies to
    Republicans. You are not more Republican the more guns you own or the >>>>>>> more often you go to church u that makes you a type of Republican, but >>>>>>> not the ideal form.

    There are many, many Republicans, for example, who will rejoice if >>>>>>> Susan Collins loses in Maine. She voted to convict Trump, and which >>>>>>> real Republican would do that? There should be no such thing as the >>>>>>> model ideological candidate.

    To quote the Apostle Paul in 1 Corinthians, one body has many parts, >>>>>>> and othe eye cannot say to the hand, aI donAt need you!A And the head >>>>>>> cannot say to the feet, aI donAt need you!Ao The parties need
    ideological diversity. Groupthink is dangerous, no matter where it is >>>>>>> found.

    IAd like to end a rather bleak newsletter with a dash of optimism. As >>>>>>> the Gallup poll indicates, present trends cannot continue forever. If >>>>>>> the number of independents continues to grow, and the share of
    partisans continues to shrink, the present system will grow more >>>>>>> unstable. A diminishing percentage of Americans will not be able to >>>>>>> hold the same amount of power.

    One-party rule can look imposing, but it is often fragile. It wasnAt >>>>>>> that long ago, for example, when there was a different kind of
    one-party rule in the South, and then it shifted from Democratic to >>>>>>> Republican. It wasnAt that long ago that California was a swing state, >>>>>>> or that Iowa was briefly part of the Democratic PartyAs blue wall. >>>>>>>
    It might take time u far too much time u but when the single party >>>>>>> fails, eventually the dormant second party revives, the logjam breaks >>>>>>> and the system resets. But until then our one-party politics is
    undermining our two-party system, and our competition is reduced to >>>>>>> determining which broken party will prevail.

    dissolve the senate, it was just a needless check on actual democracy >>>>>>
    reform the executive presidency into an executive council (5 reps from 3 >>>>>> parties: 2,2,1) requiring consensus decision making where each can vote >>>>>> pass/neg/block - majority to pass, no blocking votes

    --
    Noah Sombrero mustachioed villain
    Don't get political with me young man
    or I'll tie you to a railroad track and
    <<<talk>>> to <<<YOOooooo>>>
    Who dares to talk to El Sombrero?
    dares: Ned
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  • From Noah Sombrero@fedora@fea.st to alt.buddha.short.fat.guy on Fri Jun 26 18:15:19 2026
    From Newsgroup: alt.buddha.short.fat.guy

    On Fri, 26 Jun 2026 13:51:00 -0400, Wilson <Wilson@nowhere.invalid>
    wrote:

    On 6/26/2026 1:20 PM, Noah Sombrero wrote:
    On Fri, 26 Jun 2026 12:30:57 -0400, Wilson <Wilson@nowhere.invalid>
    wrote:

    On 6/24/2026 10:51 PM, Noah Sombrero wrote:

    NY Times,

    June 24, 2026

    Why does our seemingly competitive two-party system produce so much
    stagnation and corruption?

    By David French

    ThereAs a line from a speech that I keep thinking about.

    I wrote about it last month. Shane Massey, the Republican majority
    leader in the South Carolina Senate, spoke against a Trump-inspired
    plan to redistrict the state.

    oI will tell my Republican friends: Republicans are stronger when the
    Democrat Party is vibrant and viable,o Massey said. oWe are.
    Competition makes you better, yAall.o

    IAm reminded of a conversation I had many years ago with a friend who
    was then a senior executive at McDonaldAs (my favorite restaurant).
    When we spoke it was obvious that McDonaldAs had decisively won the
    burger wars, and that its chief competitors, Burger King and WendyAs,
    were no longer threats to dislodge Ronald McDonald from the Throne of
    Fries.

    I asked him if there was a sense of satisfaction at the company, and
    his response surprised me. oI have mixed feelings,o he said. oWe were
    a great company when the competition was intense.o

    The innovation and energy required to stave off a challenger was
    invigorating and perhaps most crucially, it staved off stagnation.

    So why isnAt this happening in American politics? Our nation has two
    parties of near-identical size and power, at least in theory. Control
    of the national government routinely flips back and forth, and even
    when one side wins full control its margins of victory are extremely
    narrow.

    And yet, instead of creating innovation and energy, our political
    competition seems to be yielding stagnation and corruption. I donAt
    believe that stagnation and corruption exist equally on both sides of
    the aisle, but itAs hard to find anyone who believes the Democratic
    Party is healthy and vibrant, especially after two losses to Donald
    Trump.

    Even if the two parties arenAt equally corrupt, they do share a
    different common characteristic: TheyAre equally repulsive to the
    public.

    A Gallup poll in January found that 45 percent of Americans identify
    as independents, a record since Gallup began regular polling in 1988.
    Equal percentages of adults, 27 percent, identify as Republicans or as >>>> Democrats.

    This doesnAt mean that neither side can win. When the public is
    disgusted with the current leadership, it has but one other
    alternative. Many voters are voting against incumbents more than
    theyAre endorsing their challengers.

    If the competition between McDonaldAs and Burger King gave us tastier
    fries, somehow the competition between Republicans and Democrats is
    giving us rotten politics.

    But what if we donAt actually have a competitive two-party system?
    What if our nation actually has two one-party systems, instead? And if >>>> the United States has two one-party systems, then that means that each >>>> way they turn voters are confronted with the arrogance, stagnation and >>>> corruption that almost always disfigures single-party rule.

    The best illustration of this reality is found in state government
    otrifectas.o ThatAs the term for a state where one party controls the
    governorAs mansion and both houses of the state legislature. As of
    this month, there are 23 Republican trifectas and 16 Democratic ones.
    That leaves 11 states with divided governments.

    Republicans may govern more states, but Democratic states tend to be
    more populous. As a result, a roughly equal percentage of Americans
    live under total red or blue rule. As of January, 39.1 percent of
    Americans lived in blue trifecta states, and 41.5 percent lived in red >>>> trifecta states, which means that less than 20 percent of the
    population lives in a divided state.

    Combine trifecta state control with aggressive partisan gerrymanders,
    and you have exactly the situation in Congress that my colleague Tom
    Edsall described this week: oAn overwhelming majority of House members >>>> run in districts that are safe in the general election, where the only >>>> threat to an incumbent is from a more ideologically extreme challenger >>>> in the primary.o

    Another way of putting it is that the other side is so weak in so many >>>> states and congressional districts that politicians can build entire
    careers without having to appeal to voters on the other side of the
    aisle.

    For example, even in a year of remarkable public discontent, in which
    the House may well change hands, the vast majority of members of
    Congress are completely safe. The Cook Political Report lists 186
    districts as solid Republican and 182 districts as solid Democrat.
    There are only 18 tossup races. If you add in the 20 races that merely >>>> lean in one direction or the other, that gives you a grand total of 38 >>>> competitive races in a 435-member House of Representatives.

    As a result, one-party politicians are often born in the partiesA
    bases and inept at reaching anyone even a few inches to their
    ideological right or left. In fact, the very effort to reach out to
    the opposition is usually interpreted as weakness, a misguided
    compromise against an uncompromising foe.

    The art of compromise vanishes before our eyes. After all, generations >>>> of politicians now come from the roughly 80 percent of the country
    where compromise is almost always unnecessary. Compromises are
    internal only, as the party negotiates with itself. The opposition
    might as well not exist.

    The partisan majority in a single-party state will often radicalize.
    As IAve explained before, the law of group polarization suggests that
    when like-minded people deliberate, they tend to become more extreme.
    Red bubbles get redder, Blue bubbles get bluer.

    ItAs not just that the two sides separate ideologically. They also
    develop very different political cultures u to the extent that each
    side is completely convinced that the other side is just, well, weird. >>>> Our nation is full of radicalized people who donAt fully understand
    that theyAre radical because everyone they know agrees with everything >>>> they say.

    IAve heard Republicans and Democrats use exactly the same oStar Warso
    reference to describe the other side. TheyAll say the other sideAs
    convention, for example, is like the Mos Eisley Cantina, the bar in
    oStar Warso filled with bizarre creatures from across the galaxy.

    Compounding the problem, the sheer size of the red and blue trifectas
    mean that they define the nature of the respective parties, not
    swing-state politicians u even though swing-state politicians are
    indispensable to party control. The single-party partisans tell us
    what it means to be a orealo Republican or a orealo Democrat and often >>>> despise the rare politicians from their own party who can win on
    hostile ground. TheyAre the squishes, after all.

    Politics is always vulnerable to corruption, but single-party rule can >>>> be a virtual petri dish for favoritism and graft. We all know that
    institutions tend to be terrible at policing themselves, and when one
    party possesses complete control, it is rarely as vigilant at
    punishing its own as it is at pummeling the other side.

    Even swing states arenAt immune from the maladies of one-party rule.
    The states themselves are often carved up into one-party enclaves.

    President Trump is perhaps the ultimate example of what one-party rule >>>> in a two-party nation can produce. While he governs for himself (as
    many one-party politicians do), heAs also vicious and vengeful to the
    other side, and so long as he keeps attacking the hated Democratic
    foe, his party will gladly cover for his corruption and graft.

    But if the Democrats challenge Trump with the products of their own
    one-party rule, with a candidate who canAt even begin to speak the
    language of the swing voter, much less the language of the disaffected >>>> Republican, then weAre setting ourselves up for yet another lurch back >>>> to the competing extreme.

    There is no easy way for Americans to change this dynamic. But perhaps >>>> u just perhaps u we can start by turning to those politicians whoAve
    proven that theyAre culturally and politically bilingual. They can win >>>> on hostile (or purple) ground. One can think of Andy Beshear, the
    governor of Kentucky, or Josh Shapiro, the governor of Pennsylvania.
    On the Republican side, I can still remember when Charlie Baker, as
    governor of Massachusetts, was by some counts the most popular
    governor in America. In 2022, he recorded a stunning 74 percent
    approval rating.

    All of these politicians, though, suffer from the same vulnerability.
    The partisan base can believe theyAre weak, that theyAre not real
    Democrats or Republicans, mere DINOs or RINOs. But a party shouldnAt
    be defined by its most zealous ideologues. Why would a progressive in
    Brooklyn be a more authentic representative of the Democratic Party
    than a moderate in Tennessee? The same analysis applies to
    Republicans. You are not more Republican the more guns you own or the
    more often you go to church u that makes you a type of Republican, but >>>> not the ideal form.

    There are many, many Republicans, for example, who will rejoice if
    Susan Collins loses in Maine. She voted to convict Trump, and which
    real Republican would do that? There should be no such thing as the
    model ideological candidate.

    To quote the Apostle Paul in 1 Corinthians, one body has many parts,
    and othe eye cannot say to the hand, aI donAt need you!A And the head
    cannot say to the feet, aI donAt need you!Ao The parties need
    ideological diversity. Groupthink is dangerous, no matter where it is
    found.

    IAd like to end a rather bleak newsletter with a dash of optimism. As
    the Gallup poll indicates, present trends cannot continue forever. If
    the number of independents continues to grow, and the share of
    partisans continues to shrink, the present system will grow more
    unstable. A diminishing percentage of Americans will not be able to
    hold the same amount of power.

    One-party rule can look imposing, but it is often fragile. It wasnAt
    that long ago, for example, when there was a different kind of
    one-party rule in the South, and then it shifted from Democratic to
    Republican. It wasnAt that long ago that California was a swing state, >>>> or that Iowa was briefly part of the Democratic PartyAs blue wall.

    It might take time u far too much time u but when the single party
    fails, eventually the dormant second party revives, the logjam breaks
    and the system resets. But until then our one-party politics is
    undermining our two-party system, and our competition is reduced to
    determining which broken party will prevail.

    That's the first decent thing by French that you've ever posted here.

    You mean the first thing you have agreed with. I recommend it to you
    as a lesson in telling both sides. You seem to have very little sense
    of how that might work.

    Ironic. You apparently can't help but denigrating people who don't agree >with you.

    I denigrate people who appear having trouble with telling both sides.



    As noted he didn't use the word oligarch and he also avoided saying
    uniparty, although both are implied.

    I think a new third party is going to happen one way or the other. That
    or maybe civil war.

    There is nothing revolutionary about a 3rd party. Canada has one. It
    does better than such efforts in the US because it does not entirely
    go away, but it remains mostly irrelevant.

    Parliamentary systems are friendlier to third parties.


    Civil war? It is not even apparent, at this point, that himbo will
    retain control of congress after nov 2026.

    Retention of the majority in congress is irrelevant to the likelihood of >armed conflict. Unless you're saying that the Left will be starting one
    if they're not in control.

    Actually that's probably accurate. Never mind.
    --
    Noah Sombrero mustachioed villain
    Don't get political with me young man
    or I'll tie you to a railroad track and
    <<<talk>>> to <<<YOOooooo>>>
    Who dares to talk to El Sombrero?
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  • From Noah Sombrero@fedora@fea.st to alt.buddha.short.fat.guy on Fri Jun 26 18:16:28 2026
    From Newsgroup: alt.buddha.short.fat.guy

    On Fri, 26 Jun 2026 10:47:37 -0700, dart200
    <user7160@newsgrouper.org.invalid> wrote:

    On 6/26/26 9:30 AM, Wilson wrote:
    On 6/24/2026 10:51 PM, Noah Sombrero wrote:

    NY Times,

    June 24, 2026

    Why does our seemingly competitive two-party system produce so much
    stagnation and corruption?

    By David French

    ThereAs a line from a speech that I keep thinking about.

    I wrote about it last month. Shane Massey, the Republican majority
    leader in the South Carolina Senate, spoke against a Trump-inspired
    plan to redistrict the state.

    oI will tell my Republican friends: Republicans are stronger when the
    Democrat Party is vibrant and viable,o Massey said. oWe are.
    Competition makes you better, yAall.o

    IAm reminded of a conversation I had many years ago with a friend who
    was then a senior executive at McDonaldAs (my favorite restaurant).
    When we spoke it was obvious that McDonaldAs had decisively won the
    burger wars, and that its chief competitors, Burger King and WendyAs,
    were no longer threats to dislodge Ronald McDonald from the Throne of
    Fries.

    I asked him if there was a sense of satisfaction at the company, and
    his response surprised me. oI have mixed feelings,o he said. oWe were
    a great company when the competition was intense.o

    The innovation and energy required to stave off a challenger was
    invigorating and perhaps most crucially, it staved off stagnation.

    So why isnAt this happening in American politics? Our nation has two
    parties of near-identical size and power, at least in theory. Control
    of the national government routinely flips back and forth, and even
    when one side wins full control its margins of victory are extremely
    narrow.

    And yet, instead of creating innovation and energy, our political
    competition seems to be yielding stagnation and corruption. I donAt
    believe that stagnation and corruption exist equally on both sides of
    the aisle, but itAs hard to find anyone who believes the Democratic
    Party is healthy and vibrant, especially after two losses to Donald
    Trump.

    Even if the two parties arenAt equally corrupt, they do share a
    different common characteristic: TheyAre equally repulsive to the
    public.

    A Gallup poll in January found that 45 percent of Americans identify
    as independents, a record since Gallup began regular polling in 1988.
    Equal percentages of adults, 27 percent, identify as Republicans or as
    Democrats.

    This doesnAt mean that neither side can win. When the public is
    disgusted with the current leadership, it has but one other
    alternative. Many voters are voting against incumbents more than
    theyAre endorsing their challengers.

    If the competition between McDonaldAs and Burger King gave us tastier
    fries, somehow the competition between Republicans and Democrats is
    giving us rotten politics.

    But what if we donAt actually have a competitive two-party system?
    What if our nation actually has two one-party systems, instead? And if
    the United States has two one-party systems, then that means that each
    way they turn voters are confronted with the arrogance, stagnation and
    corruption that almost always disfigures single-party rule.

    The best illustration of this reality is found in state government
    otrifectas.o ThatAs the term for a state where one party controls the
    governorAs mansion and both houses of the state legislature. As of
    this month, there are 23 Republican trifectas and 16 Democratic ones.
    That leaves 11 states with divided governments.

    Republicans may govern more states, but Democratic states tend to be
    more populous. As a result, a roughly equal percentage of Americans
    live under total red or blue rule. As of January, 39.1 percent of
    Americans lived in blue trifecta states, and 41.5 percent lived in red
    trifecta states, which means that less than 20 percent of the
    population lives in a divided state.

    Combine trifecta state control with aggressive partisan gerrymanders,
    and you have exactly the situation in Congress that my colleague Tom
    Edsall described this week: oAn overwhelming majority of House members
    run in districts that are safe in the general election, where the only
    threat to an incumbent is from a more ideologically extreme challenger
    in the primary.o

    Another way of putting it is that the other side is so weak in so many
    states and congressional districts that politicians can build entire
    careers without having to appeal to voters on the other side of the
    aisle.

    For example, even in a year of remarkable public discontent, in which
    the House may well change hands, the vast majority of members of
    Congress are completely safe. The Cook Political Report lists 186
    districts as solid Republican and 182 districts as solid Democrat.
    There are only 18 tossup races. If you add in the 20 races that merely
    lean in one direction or the other, that gives you a grand total of 38
    competitive races in a 435-member House of Representatives.

    As a result, one-party politicians are often born in the partiesA
    bases and inept at reaching anyone even a few inches to their
    ideological right or left. In fact, the very effort to reach out to
    the opposition is usually interpreted as weakness, a misguided
    compromise against an uncompromising foe.

    The art of compromise vanishes before our eyes. After all, generations
    of politicians now come from the roughly 80 percent of the country
    where compromise is almost always unnecessary. Compromises are
    internal only, as the party negotiates with itself. The opposition
    might as well not exist.

    The partisan majority in a single-party state will often radicalize.
    As IAve explained before, the law of group polarization suggests that
    when like-minded people deliberate, they tend to become more extreme.
    Red bubbles get redder, Blue bubbles get bluer.

    ItAs not just that the two sides separate ideologically. They also
    develop very different political cultures u to the extent that each
    side is completely convinced that the other side is just, well, weird.
    Our nation is full of radicalized people who donAt fully understand
    that theyAre radical because everyone they know agrees with everything
    they say.

    IAve heard Republicans and Democrats use exactly the same oStar Warso
    reference to describe the other side. TheyAll say the other sideAs
    convention, for example, is like the Mos Eisley Cantina, the bar in
    oStar Warso filled with bizarre creatures from across the galaxy.

    Compounding the problem, the sheer size of the red and blue trifectas
    mean that they define the nature of the respective parties, not
    swing-state politicians u even though swing-state politicians are
    indispensable to party control. The single-party partisans tell us
    what it means to be a orealo Republican or a orealo Democrat and often
    despise the rare politicians from their own party who can win on
    hostile ground. TheyAre the squishes, after all.

    Politics is always vulnerable to corruption, but single-party rule can
    be a virtual petri dish for favoritism and graft. We all know that
    institutions tend to be terrible at policing themselves, and when one
    party possesses complete control, it is rarely as vigilant at
    punishing its own as it is at pummeling the other side.

    Even swing states arenAt immune from the maladies of one-party rule.
    The states themselves are often carved up into one-party enclaves.

    President Trump is perhaps the ultimate example of what one-party rule
    in a two-party nation can produce. While he governs for himself (as
    many one-party politicians do), heAs also vicious and vengeful to the
    other side, and so long as he keeps attacking the hated Democratic
    foe, his party will gladly cover for his corruption and graft.

    But if the Democrats challenge Trump with the products of their own
    one-party rule, with a candidate who canAt even begin to speak the
    language of the swing voter, much less the language of the disaffected
    Republican, then weAre setting ourselves up for yet another lurch back
    to the competing extreme.

    There is no easy way for Americans to change this dynamic. But perhaps
    u just perhaps u we can start by turning to those politicians whoAve
    proven that theyAre culturally and politically bilingual. They can win
    on hostile (or purple) ground. One can think of Andy Beshear, the
    governor of Kentucky, or Josh Shapiro, the governor of Pennsylvania.
    On the Republican side, I can still remember when Charlie Baker, as
    governor of Massachusetts, was by some counts the most popular
    governor in America. In 2022, he recorded a stunning 74 percent
    approval rating.

    All of these politicians, though, suffer from the same vulnerability.
    The partisan base can believe theyAre weak, that theyAre not real
    Democrats or Republicans, mere DINOs or RINOs. But a party shouldnAt
    be defined by its most zealous ideologues. Why would a progressive in
    Brooklyn be a more authentic representative of the Democratic Party
    than a moderate in Tennessee? The same analysis applies to
    Republicans. You are not more Republican the more guns you own or the
    more often you go to church u that makes you a type of Republican, but
    not the ideal form.

    There are many, many Republicans, for example, who will rejoice if
    Susan Collins loses in Maine. She voted to convict Trump, and which
    real Republican would do that? There should be no such thing as the
    model ideological candidate.

    To quote the Apostle Paul in 1 Corinthians, one body has many parts,
    and othe eye cannot say to the hand, aI donAt need you!A And the head
    cannot say to the feet, aI donAt need you!Ao The parties need
    ideological diversity. Groupthink is dangerous, no matter where it is
    found.

    IAd like to end a rather bleak newsletter with a dash of optimism. As
    the Gallup poll indicates, present trends cannot continue forever. If
    the number of independents continues to grow, and the share of
    partisans continues to shrink, the present system will grow more
    unstable. A diminishing percentage of Americans will not be able to
    hold the same amount of power.

    One-party rule can look imposing, but it is often fragile. It wasnAt
    that long ago, for example, when there was a different kind of
    one-party rule in the South, and then it shifted from Democratic to
    Republican. It wasnAt that long ago that California was a swing state,
    or that Iowa was briefly part of the Democratic PartyAs blue wall.

    It might take time u far too much time u but when the single party
    fails, eventually the dormant second party revives, the logjam breaks
    and the system resets. But until then our one-party politics is
    undermining our two-party system, and our competition is reduced to
    determining which broken party will prevail.

    That's the first decent thing by French that you've ever posted here.

    As noted he didn't use the word oligarch and he also avoided saying
    uniparty, although both are implied.

    I think a new third party is going to happen one way or the other. That
    or maybe civil war.


    what even are we to go to war over???

    honestly if a significant majority wanted to deal with oligarchs...

    first we stop using their tech platforms

    second we stop consuming their media

    third we start consensus making ourselves

    fourth expand these initial steps globally and build a trans-cultural >movement far beyond what any oligarch could even dream of...

    That could happen maybe if you figure out a way to make it fun.

    war is sooooo last century

    #god

    consumers really just need to wake the fuck up. how are guns going to >accomplish anything if we can't even take these non-violent steps? like >we're going to replace all of society if we can't even replace our basic >tech platforms???
    --
    Noah Sombrero mustachioed villain
    Don't get political with me young man
    or I'll tie you to a railroad track and
    <<<talk>>> to <<<YOOooooo>>>
    Who dares to talk to El Sombrero?
    dares: Ned
    does not dare: Julian shrinks in horror and warns others away

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  • From Dude@punditster@gmail.com to alt.buddha.short.fat.guy on Fri Jun 26 16:40:49 2026
    From Newsgroup: alt.buddha.short.fat.guy

    On 6/26/2026 3:13 PM, Noah Sombrero wrote:
    On Fri, 26 Jun 2026 12:05:52 -0700, Dude <punditster@gmail.com> wrote:

    On 6/25/2026 9:18 PM, Noah Sombrero wrote:
    On Thu, 25 Jun 2026 20:36:51 -0700, Dude <punditster@gmail.com> wrote:

    On 6/25/2026 3:44 PM, dart200 wrote:
    On 6/25/26 9:35 AM, Noah Sombrero wrote:
    On Wed, 24 Jun 2026 21:40:10 -0700, dart200
    <user7160@newsgrouper.org.invalid> wrote:

    On 6/24/26 9:17 PM, Noah Sombrero wrote:
    On Wed, 24 Jun 2026 20:39:28 -0700, dart200
    <user7160@newsgrouper.org.invalid> wrote:

    On 6/24/26 7:51 PM, Noah Sombrero wrote:

    NY Times,

    June 24, 2026

    Why does our seemingly competitive two-party system produce so much >>>>>>>>>> stagnation and corruption?

    because a duopoly isn't competition,

    and because it's actually one club of people: oligarchs


    By David French

    ThererCOs a line from a speech that I keep thinking about. >>>>>>>>>>
    I wrote about it last month. Shane Massey, the Republican majority >>>>>>>>>> leader in the South Carolina Senate, spoke against a Trump-inspired >>>>>>>>>> plan to redistrict the state.

    rCLI will tell my Republican friends: Republicans are stronger when the
    Democrat Party is vibrant and viable,rCY Massey said. rCLWe are. >>>>>>>>>> Competition makes you better, yrCOall.rCY

    IrCOm reminded of a conversation I had many years ago with a friend who
    was then a senior executive at McDonaldrCOs (my favorite restaurant).

    (imagine ur favorite restaurant being mcdonalds ?)

    When we spoke it was obvious that McDonaldrCOs had decisively won the
    burger wars, and that its chief competitors, Burger King and WendyrCOs,
    were no longer threats to dislodge Ronald McDonald from the Throne of
    Fries.

    I asked him if there was a sense of satisfaction at the company, and >>>>>>>>>> his response surprised me. rCLI have mixed feelings,rCY he said. rCLWe were
    a great company when the competition was intense.rCY

    The innovation and energy required to stave off a challenger was >>>>>>>>>> invigorating and perhaps most crucially, it staved off stagnation. >>>>>>>>>>
    So why isnrCOt this happening in American politics? Our nation has two
    parties of near-identical size and power, at least in theory. Control
    of the national government routinely flips back and forth, and even >>>>>>>>>> when one side wins full control its margins of victory are extremely >>>>>>>>>> narrow.

    And yet, instead of creating innovation and energy, our political >>>>>>>>>> competition seems to be yielding stagnation and corruption. I donrCOt
    believe that stagnation and corruption exist equally on both sides of
    the aisle, but itrCOs hard to find anyone who believes the Democratic
    Party is healthy and vibrant, especially after two losses to Donald >>>>>>>>>> Trump.

    Even if the two parties arenrCOt equally corrupt, they do share a >>>>>>>>>> different common characteristic: TheyrCOre equally repulsive to the >>>>>>>>>> public.

    A Gallup poll in January found that 45 percent of Americans identify >>>>>>>>>> as independents, a record since Gallup began regular polling in 1988.
    Equal percentages of adults, 27 percent, identify as Republicans >>>>>>>>>> or as
    Democrats.

    This doesnrCOt mean that neither side can win. When the public is >>>>>>>>>> disgusted with the current leadership, it has but one other >>>>>>>>>> alternative. Many voters are voting against incumbents more than >>>>>>>>>> theyrCOre endorsing their challengers.

    If the competition between McDonaldrCOs and Burger King gave us tastier
    fries, somehow the competition between Republicans and Democrats is >>>>>>>>>> giving us rotten politics.

    But what if we donrCOt actually have a competitive two-party system? >>>>>>>>>> What if our nation actually has two one-party systems, instead? >>>>>>>>>> And if
    the United States has two one-party systems, then that means that >>>>>>>>>> each
    way they turn voters are confronted with the arrogance, stagnation >>>>>>>>>> and
    corruption that almost always disfigures single-party rule. >>>>>>>>>>
    The best illustration of this reality is found in state government >>>>>>>>>> rCLtrifectas.rCY ThatrCOs the term for a state where one party controls the
    governorrCOs mansion and both houses of the state legislature. As of >>>>>>>>>> this month, there are 23 Republican trifectas and 16 Democratic ones.
    That leaves 11 states with divided governments.

    Republicans may govern more states, but Democratic states tend to be >>>>>>>>>> more populous. As a result, a roughly equal percentage of Americans >>>>>>>>>> live under total red or blue rule. As of January, 39.1 percent of >>>>>>>>>> Americans lived in blue trifecta states, and 41.5 percent lived in >>>>>>>>>> red
    trifecta states, which means that less than 20 percent of the >>>>>>>>>> population lives in a divided state.

    Combine trifecta state control with aggressive partisan gerrymanders,
    and you have exactly the situation in Congress that my colleague Tom >>>>>>>>>> Edsall described this week: rCLAn overwhelming majority of House >>>>>>>>>> members
    run in districts that are safe in the general election, where the >>>>>>>>>> only
    threat to an incumbent is from a more ideologically extreme >>>>>>>>>> challenger
    in the primary.rCY

    Another way of putting it is that the other side is so weak in so >>>>>>>>>> many
    states and congressional districts that politicians can build entire >>>>>>>>>> careers without having to appeal to voters on the other side of the >>>>>>>>>> aisle.

    For example, even in a year of remarkable public discontent, in which
    the House may well change hands, the vast majority of members of >>>>>>>>>> Congress are completely safe. The Cook Political Report lists 186 >>>>>>>>>> districts as solid Republican and 182 districts as solid Democrat. >>>>>>>>>> There are only 18 tossup races. If you add in the 20 races that >>>>>>>>>> merely
    lean in one direction or the other, that gives you a grand total >>>>>>>>>> of 38
    competitive races in a 435-member House of Representatives. >>>>>>>>>>
    As a result, one-party politicians are often born in the partiesrCO >>>>>>>>>> bases and inept at reaching anyone even a few inches to their >>>>>>>>>> ideological right or left. In fact, the very effort to reach out to >>>>>>>>>> the opposition is usually interpreted as weakness, a misguided >>>>>>>>>> compromise against an uncompromising foe.

    The art of compromise vanishes before our eyes. After all, >>>>>>>>>> generations
    of politicians now come from the roughly 80 percent of the country >>>>>>>>>> where compromise is almost always unnecessary. Compromises are >>>>>>>>>> internal only, as the party negotiates with itself. The opposition >>>>>>>>>> might as well not exist.

    The partisan majority in a single-party state will often radicalize. >>>>>>>>>> As IrCOve explained before, the law of group polarization suggests that
    when like-minded people deliberate, they tend to become more extreme.
    Red bubbles get redder, Blue bubbles get bluer.

    ItrCOs not just that the two sides separate ideologically. They also >>>>>>>>>> develop very different political cultures rCo to the extent that each
    side is completely convinced that the other side is just, well, >>>>>>>>>> weird.
    Our nation is full of radicalized people who donrCOt fully understand
    that theyrCOre radical because everyone they know agrees with >>>>>>>>>> everything
    they say.

    IrCOve heard Republicans and Democrats use exactly the same rCLStar WarsrCY
    reference to describe the other side. TheyrCOll say the other siderCOs
    convention, for example, is like the Mos Eisley Cantina, the bar in >>>>>>>>>> rCLStar WarsrCY filled with bizarre creatures from across the galaxy.

    Compounding the problem, the sheer size of the red and blue trifectas
    mean that they define the nature of the respective parties, not >>>>>>>>>> swing-state politicians rCo even though swing-state politicians are >>>>>>>>>> indispensable to party control. The single-party partisans tell us >>>>>>>>>> what it means to be a rCLrealrCY Republican or a rCLrealrCY Democrat and
    often
    despise the rare politicians from their own party who can win on >>>>>>>>>> hostile ground. TheyrCOre the squishes, after all.

    Politics is always vulnerable to corruption, but single-party rule >>>>>>>>>> can
    be a virtual petri dish for favoritism and graft. We all know that >>>>>>>>>> institutions tend to be terrible at policing themselves, and when one
    party possesses complete control, it is rarely as vigilant at >>>>>>>>>> punishing its own as it is at pummeling the other side.

    Even swing states arenrCOt immune from the maladies of one-party rule.
    The states themselves are often carved up into one-party enclaves. >>>>>>>>>>
    President Trump is perhaps the ultimate example of what one-party >>>>>>>>>> rule
    in a two-party nation can produce. While he governs for himself (as >>>>>>>>>> many one-party politicians do), herCOs also vicious and vengeful to the
    other side, and so long as he keeps attacking the hated Democratic >>>>>>>>>> foe, his party will gladly cover for his corruption and graft. >>>>>>>>>>
    But if the Democrats challenge Trump with the products of their own >>>>>>>>>> one-party rule, with a candidate who canrCOt even begin to speak the >>>>>>>>>> language of the swing voter, much less the language of the >>>>>>>>>> disaffected
    Republican, then werCOre setting ourselves up for yet another lurch >>>>>>>>>> back
    to the competing extreme.

    There is no easy way for Americans to change this dynamic. But >>>>>>>>>> perhaps
    rCo just perhaps rCo we can start by turning to those politicians whorCOve
    proven that theyrCOre culturally and politically bilingual. They can >>>>>>>>>> win
    on hostile (or purple) ground. One can think of Andy Beshear, the >>>>>>>>>> governor of Kentucky, or Josh Shapiro, the governor of Pennsylvania. >>>>>>>>>> On the Republican side, I can still remember when Charlie Baker, as >>>>>>>>>> governor of Massachusetts, was by some counts the most popular >>>>>>>>>> governor in America. In 2022, he recorded a stunning 74 percent >>>>>>>>>> approval rating.

    All of these politicians, though, suffer from the same vulnerability.
    The partisan base can believe theyrCOre weak, that theyrCOre not real
    Democrats or Republicans, mere DINOs or RINOs. But a party shouldnrCOt
    be defined by its most zealous ideologues. Why would a progressive in
    Brooklyn be a more authentic representative of the Democratic Party >>>>>>>>>> than a moderate in Tennessee? The same analysis applies to >>>>>>>>>> Republicans. You are not more Republican the more guns you own or the
    more often you go to church rCo that makes you a type of Republican, >>>>>>>>>> but
    not the ideal form.

    There are many, many Republicans, for example, who will rejoice if >>>>>>>>>> Susan Collins loses in Maine. She voted to convict Trump, and which >>>>>>>>>> real Republican would do that? There should be no such thing as the >>>>>>>>>> model ideological candidate.

    To quote the Apostle Paul in 1 Corinthians, one body has many parts, >>>>>>>>>> and rCLthe eye cannot say to the hand, rCyI donrCOt need you!rCO And the head
    cannot say to the feet, rCyI donrCOt need you!rCOrCY The parties need
    ideological diversity. Groupthink is dangerous, no matter where it is
    found.

    IrCOd like to end a rather bleak newsletter with a dash of optimism. As
    the Gallup poll indicates, present trends cannot continue forever. If
    the number of independents continues to grow, and the share of >>>>>>>>>> partisans continues to shrink, the present system will grow more >>>>>>>>>> unstable. A diminishing percentage of Americans will not be able to >>>>>>>>>> hold the same amount of power.

    One-party rule can look imposing, but it is often fragile. It wasnrCOt
    that long ago, for example, when there was a different kind of >>>>>>>>>> one-party rule in the South, and then it shifted from Democratic to >>>>>>>>>> Republican. It wasnrCOt that long ago that California was a swing >>>>>>>>>> state,
    or that Iowa was briefly part of the Democratic PartyrCOs blue wall. >>>>>>>>>>
    It might take time rCo far too much time rCo but when the single party
    fails, eventually the dormant second party revives, the logjam breaks
    and the system resets. But until then our one-party politics is >>>>>>>>>> undermining our two-party system, and our competition is reduced to >>>>>>>>>> determining which broken party will prevail.

    dissolve the senate, it was just a needless check on actual democracy >>>>>>>>>
    reform the executive presidency into an executive council (5 reps >>>>>>>>> from 3
    parties: 2,2,1) requiring consensus decision making where each can >>>>>>>>> vote
    pass/neg/block - majority to pass, no blocking votes

    Shared power has been tried a number of times since the romans tried >>>>>>>> it first.-a So far it has not worked well.

    i'm literally just recommending what is currently working out well in >>>>>>> switzerland

    and there no division of territory here, they are not ruling and making >>>>>>> decrees from different locations like the romans tried several times in >>>>>>> their later stages. they deliberating as a council until consensus with >>>>>>> each other is reached, and any one of them can block a policy entirely. >>>>>>
    This is pertinent.-a Rome conquered more territory than it could
    reasonably administer.-a It also helps that switz is a small country. >>>>>> Small countries tend to enjoy greater social cohesion.

    switzerland has 3 official languages because it's split into 3 regions >>>>> with different dominate languages, even today. and up until modern
    tunnel boring the country was rather difficult to traverse.


    So, rather than solving the towering ambition problem, they have
    avoided it by having leaders that lack that characteristic.

    Not a solution to the underlying issue.-a And for them, likely not a >>>>>> long term solution.-a Sure you might beat the odds and find 3 good guys >>>>>> once.-a What are the odds then, of doing that again next time?

    it's 5: 2 from the top party, 2 from the second party, and 1 from a
    third. and they can only pass policy with consensus. i don't know how >>>>> this remove the problem of ambition ... it's a structural shift in the >>>>> requirements to pass policy

    u can't just elect one dumbfuck into power and give everyone else the >>>>> run around, u have five from three different voting blocks, and so it >>>>> requires putting in people who can actually deliberate

    It kind of looks like Nick top-posted and changed the subject from the >>>> burger war, to the oligarchs in Russia, then changed the subject again >>>> to Switzerland following Noah's assertion that the Romans did it and so >>>> Nick cross-posted to alt.messianic.

    I see no such manipulations. The subject remains burger war. I don't
    care guys make it whatever you like.

    Since they both ignored my post, I'm interjecting it again:

    Apparently the reason Switzerland is so successful because it's a
    Libertarian free market mix of social and cultural conservatism with
    strong economic and political liberalism.

    And I asserted and still assert that:

    That must make you feel good. But it does not explain dart's
    assertion.

    Which you have ignored.

    Wait! What?

    So, I'm agreeing with both Nick and David, but I'm not explaining Nick's
    assertion?
    Why can't Nick explain why Switzerland is a good example of consensus
    governing?

    Apparently Switzerland is a Libertarian free market mix of social and
    cultural conservatism with strong economic and political liberalism.

    Swiss conservatism is generally cautious and traditional (resisting
    rapid changes), while its liberalism favors free-market economics,
    robust civil liberties, and the world's most extensive system of direct
    democracy." - Wikipedia

    Sorry, that is not an explanation. It is however a bias confirmation
    if you were looking for one, which you were, right?

    Nick said Switzerland was a good example of consensus governing. Is he
    right and in agreement with David French, or not?



    "Swiss conservatism is generally cautious and traditional (resisting
    rapid changes), while its liberalism favors free-market economics,
    robust civil liberties, and the world's most extensive system of direct >>>> democracy." - Wikipedia



    The problem that govt's mostly fail to address is what to do with >>>>>>>> people with towering ambition?-a Lock them up and allow them no access >>>>>>>> to media?


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  • From Dude@punditster@gmail.com to alt.buddha.short.fat.guy on Fri Jun 26 18:02:01 2026
    From Newsgroup: alt.buddha.short.fat.guy

    On 6/25/2026 9:12 PM, Noah Sombrero wrote:
    On Thu, 25 Jun 2026 15:44:04 -0700, dart200 <user7160@newsgrouper.org.invalid> wrote:

    On 6/25/26 9:35 AM, Noah Sombrero wrote:
    On Wed, 24 Jun 2026 21:40:10 -0700, dart200
    <user7160@newsgrouper.org.invalid> wrote:

    On 6/24/26 9:17 PM, Noah Sombrero wrote:
    On Wed, 24 Jun 2026 20:39:28 -0700, dart200
    <user7160@newsgrouper.org.invalid> wrote:

    On 6/24/26 7:51 PM, Noah Sombrero wrote:

    NY Times,

    June 24, 2026

    Why does our seemingly competitive two-party system produce so much >>>>>>> stagnation and corruption?

    because a duopoly isn't competition,

    and because it's actually one club of people: oligarchs


    By David French

    ThererCOs a line from a speech that I keep thinking about.

    I wrote about it last month. Shane Massey, the Republican majority >>>>>>> leader in the South Carolina Senate, spoke against a Trump-inspired >>>>>>> plan to redistrict the state.

    rCLI will tell my Republican friends: Republicans are stronger when the >>>>>>> Democrat Party is vibrant and viable,rCY Massey said. rCLWe are. >>>>>>> Competition makes you better, yrCOall.rCY

    IrCOm reminded of a conversation I had many years ago with a friend who >>>>>>> was then a senior executive at McDonaldrCOs (my favorite restaurant). >>>>>>
    (imagine ur favorite restaurant being mcdonalds ?)

    When we spoke it was obvious that McDonaldrCOs had decisively won the >>>>>>> burger wars, and that its chief competitors, Burger King and WendyrCOs, >>>>>>> were no longer threats to dislodge Ronald McDonald from the Throne of >>>>>>> Fries.

    I asked him if there was a sense of satisfaction at the company, and >>>>>>> his response surprised me. rCLI have mixed feelings,rCY he said. rCLWe were
    a great company when the competition was intense.rCY

    The innovation and energy required to stave off a challenger was >>>>>>> invigorating and perhaps most crucially, it staved off stagnation. >>>>>>>
    So why isnrCOt this happening in American politics? Our nation has two >>>>>>> parties of near-identical size and power, at least in theory. Control >>>>>>> of the national government routinely flips back and forth, and even >>>>>>> when one side wins full control its margins of victory are extremely >>>>>>> narrow.

    And yet, instead of creating innovation and energy, our political >>>>>>> competition seems to be yielding stagnation and corruption. I donrCOt >>>>>>> believe that stagnation and corruption exist equally on both sides of >>>>>>> the aisle, but itrCOs hard to find anyone who believes the Democratic >>>>>>> Party is healthy and vibrant, especially after two losses to Donald >>>>>>> Trump.

    Even if the two parties arenrCOt equally corrupt, they do share a >>>>>>> different common characteristic: TheyrCOre equally repulsive to the >>>>>>> public.

    A Gallup poll in January found that 45 percent of Americans identify >>>>>>> as independents, a record since Gallup began regular polling in 1988. >>>>>>> Equal percentages of adults, 27 percent, identify as Republicans or as >>>>>>> Democrats.

    This doesnrCOt mean that neither side can win. When the public is >>>>>>> disgusted with the current leadership, it has but one other
    alternative. Many voters are voting against incumbents more than >>>>>>> theyrCOre endorsing their challengers.

    If the competition between McDonaldrCOs and Burger King gave us tastier >>>>>>> fries, somehow the competition between Republicans and Democrats is >>>>>>> giving us rotten politics.

    But what if we donrCOt actually have a competitive two-party system? >>>>>>> What if our nation actually has two one-party systems, instead? And if >>>>>>> the United States has two one-party systems, then that means that each >>>>>>> way they turn voters are confronted with the arrogance, stagnation and >>>>>>> corruption that almost always disfigures single-party rule.

    The best illustration of this reality is found in state government >>>>>>> rCLtrifectas.rCY ThatrCOs the term for a state where one party controls the
    governorrCOs mansion and both houses of the state legislature. As of >>>>>>> this month, there are 23 Republican trifectas and 16 Democratic ones. >>>>>>> That leaves 11 states with divided governments.

    Republicans may govern more states, but Democratic states tend to be >>>>>>> more populous. As a result, a roughly equal percentage of Americans >>>>>>> live under total red or blue rule. As of January, 39.1 percent of >>>>>>> Americans lived in blue trifecta states, and 41.5 percent lived in red >>>>>>> trifecta states, which means that less than 20 percent of the
    population lives in a divided state.

    Combine trifecta state control with aggressive partisan gerrymanders, >>>>>>> and you have exactly the situation in Congress that my colleague Tom >>>>>>> Edsall described this week: rCLAn overwhelming majority of House members
    run in districts that are safe in the general election, where the only >>>>>>> threat to an incumbent is from a more ideologically extreme challenger >>>>>>> in the primary.rCY

    Another way of putting it is that the other side is so weak in so many >>>>>>> states and congressional districts that politicians can build entire >>>>>>> careers without having to appeal to voters on the other side of the >>>>>>> aisle.

    For example, even in a year of remarkable public discontent, in which >>>>>>> the House may well change hands, the vast majority of members of >>>>>>> Congress are completely safe. The Cook Political Report lists 186 >>>>>>> districts as solid Republican and 182 districts as solid Democrat. >>>>>>> There are only 18 tossup races. If you add in the 20 races that merely >>>>>>> lean in one direction or the other, that gives you a grand total of 38 >>>>>>> competitive races in a 435-member House of Representatives.

    As a result, one-party politicians are often born in the partiesrCO >>>>>>> bases and inept at reaching anyone even a few inches to their
    ideological right or left. In fact, the very effort to reach out to >>>>>>> the opposition is usually interpreted as weakness, a misguided
    compromise against an uncompromising foe.

    The art of compromise vanishes before our eyes. After all, generations >>>>>>> of politicians now come from the roughly 80 percent of the country >>>>>>> where compromise is almost always unnecessary. Compromises are
    internal only, as the party negotiates with itself. The opposition >>>>>>> might as well not exist.

    The partisan majority in a single-party state will often radicalize. >>>>>>> As IrCOve explained before, the law of group polarization suggests that >>>>>>> when like-minded people deliberate, they tend to become more extreme. >>>>>>> Red bubbles get redder, Blue bubbles get bluer.

    ItrCOs not just that the two sides separate ideologically. They also >>>>>>> develop very different political cultures rCo to the extent that each >>>>>>> side is completely convinced that the other side is just, well, weird. >>>>>>> Our nation is full of radicalized people who donrCOt fully understand >>>>>>> that theyrCOre radical because everyone they know agrees with everything
    they say.

    IrCOve heard Republicans and Democrats use exactly the same rCLStar WarsrCY
    reference to describe the other side. TheyrCOll say the other siderCOs >>>>>>> convention, for example, is like the Mos Eisley Cantina, the bar in >>>>>>> rCLStar WarsrCY filled with bizarre creatures from across the galaxy. >>>>>>>
    Compounding the problem, the sheer size of the red and blue trifectas >>>>>>> mean that they define the nature of the respective parties, not
    swing-state politicians rCo even though swing-state politicians are >>>>>>> indispensable to party control. The single-party partisans tell us >>>>>>> what it means to be a rCLrealrCY Republican or a rCLrealrCY Democrat and often
    despise the rare politicians from their own party who can win on >>>>>>> hostile ground. TheyrCOre the squishes, after all.

    Politics is always vulnerable to corruption, but single-party rule can >>>>>>> be a virtual petri dish for favoritism and graft. We all know that >>>>>>> institutions tend to be terrible at policing themselves, and when one >>>>>>> party possesses complete control, it is rarely as vigilant at
    punishing its own as it is at pummeling the other side.

    Even swing states arenrCOt immune from the maladies of one-party rule. >>>>>>> The states themselves are often carved up into one-party enclaves. >>>>>>>
    President Trump is perhaps the ultimate example of what one-party rule >>>>>>> in a two-party nation can produce. While he governs for himself (as >>>>>>> many one-party politicians do), herCOs also vicious and vengeful to the >>>>>>> other side, and so long as he keeps attacking the hated Democratic >>>>>>> foe, his party will gladly cover for his corruption and graft.

    But if the Democrats challenge Trump with the products of their own >>>>>>> one-party rule, with a candidate who canrCOt even begin to speak the >>>>>>> language of the swing voter, much less the language of the disaffected >>>>>>> Republican, then werCOre setting ourselves up for yet another lurch back
    to the competing extreme.

    There is no easy way for Americans to change this dynamic. But perhaps >>>>>>> rCo just perhaps rCo we can start by turning to those politicians whorCOve
    proven that theyrCOre culturally and politically bilingual. They can win
    on hostile (or purple) ground. One can think of Andy Beshear, the >>>>>>> governor of Kentucky, or Josh Shapiro, the governor of Pennsylvania. >>>>>>> On the Republican side, I can still remember when Charlie Baker, as >>>>>>> governor of Massachusetts, was by some counts the most popular
    governor in America. In 2022, he recorded a stunning 74 percent
    approval rating.

    All of these politicians, though, suffer from the same vulnerability. >>>>>>> The partisan base can believe theyrCOre weak, that theyrCOre not real >>>>>>> Democrats or Republicans, mere DINOs or RINOs. But a party shouldnrCOt >>>>>>> be defined by its most zealous ideologues. Why would a progressive in >>>>>>> Brooklyn be a more authentic representative of the Democratic Party >>>>>>> than a moderate in Tennessee? The same analysis applies to
    Republicans. You are not more Republican the more guns you own or the >>>>>>> more often you go to church rCo that makes you a type of Republican, but
    not the ideal form.

    There are many, many Republicans, for example, who will rejoice if >>>>>>> Susan Collins loses in Maine. She voted to convict Trump, and which >>>>>>> real Republican would do that? There should be no such thing as the >>>>>>> model ideological candidate.

    To quote the Apostle Paul in 1 Corinthians, one body has many parts, >>>>>>> and rCLthe eye cannot say to the hand, rCyI donrCOt need you!rCO And the head
    cannot say to the feet, rCyI donrCOt need you!rCOrCY The parties need >>>>>>> ideological diversity. Groupthink is dangerous, no matter where it is >>>>>>> found.

    IrCOd like to end a rather bleak newsletter with a dash of optimism. As >>>>>>> the Gallup poll indicates, present trends cannot continue forever. If >>>>>>> the number of independents continues to grow, and the share of
    partisans continues to shrink, the present system will grow more >>>>>>> unstable. A diminishing percentage of Americans will not be able to >>>>>>> hold the same amount of power.

    One-party rule can look imposing, but it is often fragile. It wasnrCOt >>>>>>> that long ago, for example, when there was a different kind of
    one-party rule in the South, and then it shifted from Democratic to >>>>>>> Republican. It wasnrCOt that long ago that California was a swing state,
    or that Iowa was briefly part of the Democratic PartyrCOs blue wall. >>>>>>>
    It might take time rCo far too much time rCo but when the single party >>>>>>> fails, eventually the dormant second party revives, the logjam breaks >>>>>>> and the system resets. But until then our one-party politics is
    undermining our two-party system, and our competition is reduced to >>>>>>> determining which broken party will prevail.

    dissolve the senate, it was just a needless check on actual democracy >>>>>>
    reform the executive presidency into an executive council (5 reps from 3 >>>>>> parties: 2,2,1) requiring consensus decision making where each can vote >>>>>> pass/neg/block - majority to pass, no blocking votes

    Shared power has been tried a number of times since the romans tried >>>>> it first. So far it has not worked well.

    i'm literally just recommending what is currently working out well in
    switzerland

    and there no division of territory here, they are not ruling and making >>>> decrees from different locations like the romans tried several times in >>>> their later stages. they deliberating as a council until consensus with >>>> each other is reached, and any one of them can block a policy entirely. >>>
    This is pertinent. Rome conquered more territory than it could
    reasonably administer. It also helps that switz is a small country.
    Small countries tend to enjoy greater social cohesion.

    switzerland has 3 official languages because it's split into 3 regions
    with different dominate languages, even today. and up until modern
    tunnel boring the country was rather difficult to traverse.

    Still they do know they are all swiss.

    You're arguing against David French, in a report, you posted to the board.

    You can't make this stuff up!


    So, rather than solving the towering ambition problem, they have
    avoided it by having leaders that lack that characteristic.

    Not a solution to the underlying issue. And for them, likely not a
    long term solution. Sure you might beat the odds and find 3 good guys
    once. What are the odds then, of doing that again next time?

    it's 5: 2 from the top party, 2 from the second party, and 1 from a
    third. and they can only pass policy with consensus. i don't know how
    this remove the problem of ambition ... it's a structural shift in the
    requirements to pass policy

    Historically the many will devolve to 1. I suspect, in the absence of deliberate blockage, some 1 will emerge. So far nobody, as far as I
    know, has succeeded in devising such a deliberate unbreachable
    blockage, which means, so far this arrangement has never succeeded for
    long.

    Has anyone ever told you that you sound like a word salad?


    u can't just elect one dumbfuck into power and give everyone else the
    run around, u have five from three different voting blocks, and so it
    requires putting in people who can actually deliberate


    The problem that govt's mostly fail to address is what to do with
    people with towering ambition? Lock them up and allow them no access >>>>> to media?

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  • From Noah Sombrero@fedora@fea.st to alt.buddha.short.fat.guy on Fri Jun 26 21:59:02 2026
    From Newsgroup: alt.buddha.short.fat.guy

    On Fri, 26 Jun 2026 16:40:49 -0700, Dude <punditster@gmail.com> wrote:

    On 6/26/2026 3:13 PM, Noah Sombrero wrote:
    On Fri, 26 Jun 2026 12:05:52 -0700, Dude <punditster@gmail.com> wrote:

    On 6/25/2026 9:18 PM, Noah Sombrero wrote:
    On Thu, 25 Jun 2026 20:36:51 -0700, Dude <punditster@gmail.com> wrote: >>>>
    On 6/25/2026 3:44 PM, dart200 wrote:
    On 6/25/26 9:35 AM, Noah Sombrero wrote:
    On Wed, 24 Jun 2026 21:40:10 -0700, dart200
    <user7160@newsgrouper.org.invalid> wrote:

    On 6/24/26 9:17 PM, Noah Sombrero wrote:
    On Wed, 24 Jun 2026 20:39:28 -0700, dart200
    <user7160@newsgrouper.org.invalid> wrote:

    On 6/24/26 7:51 PM, Noah Sombrero wrote:

    NY Times,

    June 24, 2026

    Why does our seemingly competitive two-party system produce so much >>>>>>>>>>> stagnation and corruption?

    because a duopoly isn't competition,

    and because it's actually one club of people: oligarchs


    By David French

    ThereAs a line from a speech that I keep thinking about. >>>>>>>>>>>
    I wrote about it last month. Shane Massey, the Republican majority >>>>>>>>>>> leader in the South Carolina Senate, spoke against a Trump-inspired >>>>>>>>>>> plan to redistrict the state.

    oI will tell my Republican friends: Republicans are stronger when the
    Democrat Party is vibrant and viable,o Massey said. oWe are. >>>>>>>>>>> Competition makes you better, yAall.o

    IAm reminded of a conversation I had many years ago with a friend who
    was then a senior executive at McDonaldAs (my favorite restaurant). >>>>>>>>>>
    (imagine ur favorite restaurant being mcdonalds ?)

    When we spoke it was obvious that McDonaldAs had decisively won the >>>>>>>>>>> burger wars, and that its chief competitors, Burger King and WendyAs,
    were no longer threats to dislodge Ronald McDonald from the Throne of
    Fries.

    I asked him if there was a sense of satisfaction at the company, and
    his response surprised me. oI have mixed feelings,o he said. oWe were
    a great company when the competition was intense.o

    The innovation and energy required to stave off a challenger was >>>>>>>>>>> invigorating and perhaps most crucially, it staved off stagnation. >>>>>>>>>>>
    So why isnAt this happening in American politics? Our nation has two
    parties of near-identical size and power, at least in theory. Control
    of the national government routinely flips back and forth, and even >>>>>>>>>>> when one side wins full control its margins of victory are extremely
    narrow.

    And yet, instead of creating innovation and energy, our political >>>>>>>>>>> competition seems to be yielding stagnation and corruption. I donAt >>>>>>>>>>> believe that stagnation and corruption exist equally on both sides of
    the aisle, but itAs hard to find anyone who believes the Democratic >>>>>>>>>>> Party is healthy and vibrant, especially after two losses to Donald >>>>>>>>>>> Trump.

    Even if the two parties arenAt equally corrupt, they do share a >>>>>>>>>>> different common characteristic: TheyAre equally repulsive to the >>>>>>>>>>> public.

    A Gallup poll in January found that 45 percent of Americans identify
    as independents, a record since Gallup began regular polling in 1988.
    Equal percentages of adults, 27 percent, identify as Republicans >>>>>>>>>>> or as
    Democrats.

    This doesnAt mean that neither side can win. When the public is >>>>>>>>>>> disgusted with the current leadership, it has but one other >>>>>>>>>>> alternative. Many voters are voting against incumbents more than >>>>>>>>>>> theyAre endorsing their challengers.

    If the competition between McDonaldAs and Burger King gave us tastier
    fries, somehow the competition between Republicans and Democrats is >>>>>>>>>>> giving us rotten politics.

    But what if we donAt actually have a competitive two-party system? >>>>>>>>>>> What if our nation actually has two one-party systems, instead? >>>>>>>>>>> And if
    the United States has two one-party systems, then that means that >>>>>>>>>>> each
    way they turn voters are confronted with the arrogance, stagnation >>>>>>>>>>> and
    corruption that almost always disfigures single-party rule. >>>>>>>>>>>
    The best illustration of this reality is found in state government >>>>>>>>>>> otrifectas.o ThatAs the term for a state where one party controls the
    governorAs mansion and both houses of the state legislature. As of >>>>>>>>>>> this month, there are 23 Republican trifectas and 16 Democratic ones.
    That leaves 11 states with divided governments.

    Republicans may govern more states, but Democratic states tend to be
    more populous. As a result, a roughly equal percentage of Americans >>>>>>>>>>> live under total red or blue rule. As of January, 39.1 percent of >>>>>>>>>>> Americans lived in blue trifecta states, and 41.5 percent lived in >>>>>>>>>>> red
    trifecta states, which means that less than 20 percent of the >>>>>>>>>>> population lives in a divided state.

    Combine trifecta state control with aggressive partisan gerrymanders,
    and you have exactly the situation in Congress that my colleague Tom
    Edsall described this week: oAn overwhelming majority of House >>>>>>>>>>> members
    run in districts that are safe in the general election, where the >>>>>>>>>>> only
    threat to an incumbent is from a more ideologically extreme >>>>>>>>>>> challenger
    in the primary.o

    Another way of putting it is that the other side is so weak in so >>>>>>>>>>> many
    states and congressional districts that politicians can build entire
    careers without having to appeal to voters on the other side of the >>>>>>>>>>> aisle.

    For example, even in a year of remarkable public discontent, in which
    the House may well change hands, the vast majority of members of >>>>>>>>>>> Congress are completely safe. The Cook Political Report lists 186 >>>>>>>>>>> districts as solid Republican and 182 districts as solid Democrat. >>>>>>>>>>> There are only 18 tossup races. If you add in the 20 races that >>>>>>>>>>> merely
    lean in one direction or the other, that gives you a grand total >>>>>>>>>>> of 38
    competitive races in a 435-member House of Representatives. >>>>>>>>>>>
    As a result, one-party politicians are often born in the partiesA >>>>>>>>>>> bases and inept at reaching anyone even a few inches to their >>>>>>>>>>> ideological right or left. In fact, the very effort to reach out to >>>>>>>>>>> the opposition is usually interpreted as weakness, a misguided >>>>>>>>>>> compromise against an uncompromising foe.

    The art of compromise vanishes before our eyes. After all, >>>>>>>>>>> generations
    of politicians now come from the roughly 80 percent of the country >>>>>>>>>>> where compromise is almost always unnecessary. Compromises are >>>>>>>>>>> internal only, as the party negotiates with itself. The opposition >>>>>>>>>>> might as well not exist.

    The partisan majority in a single-party state will often radicalize.
    As IAve explained before, the law of group polarization suggests that
    when like-minded people deliberate, they tend to become more extreme.
    Red bubbles get redder, Blue bubbles get bluer.

    ItAs not just that the two sides separate ideologically. They also >>>>>>>>>>> develop very different political cultures u to the extent that each >>>>>>>>>>> side is completely convinced that the other side is just, well, >>>>>>>>>>> weird.
    Our nation is full of radicalized people who donAt fully understand >>>>>>>>>>> that theyAre radical because everyone they know agrees with >>>>>>>>>>> everything
    they say.

    IAve heard Republicans and Democrats use exactly the same oStar Warso
    reference to describe the other side. TheyAll say the other sideAs >>>>>>>>>>> convention, for example, is like the Mos Eisley Cantina, the bar in >>>>>>>>>>> oStar Warso filled with bizarre creatures from across the galaxy. >>>>>>>>>>>
    Compounding the problem, the sheer size of the red and blue trifectas
    mean that they define the nature of the respective parties, not >>>>>>>>>>> swing-state politicians u even though swing-state politicians are >>>>>>>>>>> indispensable to party control. The single-party partisans tell us >>>>>>>>>>> what it means to be a orealo Republican or a orealo Democrat and >>>>>>>>>>> often
    despise the rare politicians from their own party who can win on >>>>>>>>>>> hostile ground. TheyAre the squishes, after all.

    Politics is always vulnerable to corruption, but single-party rule >>>>>>>>>>> can
    be a virtual petri dish for favoritism and graft. We all know that >>>>>>>>>>> institutions tend to be terrible at policing themselves, and when one
    party possesses complete control, it is rarely as vigilant at >>>>>>>>>>> punishing its own as it is at pummeling the other side.

    Even swing states arenAt immune from the maladies of one-party rule.
    The states themselves are often carved up into one-party enclaves. >>>>>>>>>>>
    President Trump is perhaps the ultimate example of what one-party >>>>>>>>>>> rule
    in a two-party nation can produce. While he governs for himself (as >>>>>>>>>>> many one-party politicians do), heAs also vicious and vengeful to the
    other side, and so long as he keeps attacking the hated Democratic >>>>>>>>>>> foe, his party will gladly cover for his corruption and graft. >>>>>>>>>>>
    But if the Democrats challenge Trump with the products of their own >>>>>>>>>>> one-party rule, with a candidate who canAt even begin to speak the >>>>>>>>>>> language of the swing voter, much less the language of the >>>>>>>>>>> disaffected
    Republican, then weAre setting ourselves up for yet another lurch >>>>>>>>>>> back
    to the competing extreme.

    There is no easy way for Americans to change this dynamic. But >>>>>>>>>>> perhaps
    u just perhaps u we can start by turning to those politicians whoAve
    proven that theyAre culturally and politically bilingual. They can >>>>>>>>>>> win
    on hostile (or purple) ground. One can think of Andy Beshear, the >>>>>>>>>>> governor of Kentucky, or Josh Shapiro, the governor of Pennsylvania.
    On the Republican side, I can still remember when Charlie Baker, as >>>>>>>>>>> governor of Massachusetts, was by some counts the most popular >>>>>>>>>>> governor in America. In 2022, he recorded a stunning 74 percent >>>>>>>>>>> approval rating.

    All of these politicians, though, suffer from the same vulnerability.
    The partisan base can believe theyAre weak, that theyAre not real >>>>>>>>>>> Democrats or Republicans, mere DINOs or RINOs. But a party shouldnAt
    be defined by its most zealous ideologues. Why would a progressive in
    Brooklyn be a more authentic representative of the Democratic Party >>>>>>>>>>> than a moderate in Tennessee? The same analysis applies to >>>>>>>>>>> Republicans. You are not more Republican the more guns you own or the
    more often you go to church u that makes you a type of Republican, >>>>>>>>>>> but
    not the ideal form.

    There are many, many Republicans, for example, who will rejoice if >>>>>>>>>>> Susan Collins loses in Maine. She voted to convict Trump, and which >>>>>>>>>>> real Republican would do that? There should be no such thing as the >>>>>>>>>>> model ideological candidate.

    To quote the Apostle Paul in 1 Corinthians, one body has many parts,
    and othe eye cannot say to the hand, aI donAt need you!A And the head
    cannot say to the feet, aI donAt need you!Ao The parties need >>>>>>>>>>> ideological diversity. Groupthink is dangerous, no matter where it is
    found.

    IAd like to end a rather bleak newsletter with a dash of optimism. As
    the Gallup poll indicates, present trends cannot continue forever. If
    the number of independents continues to grow, and the share of >>>>>>>>>>> partisans continues to shrink, the present system will grow more >>>>>>>>>>> unstable. A diminishing percentage of Americans will not be able to >>>>>>>>>>> hold the same amount of power.

    One-party rule can look imposing, but it is often fragile. It wasnAt
    that long ago, for example, when there was a different kind of >>>>>>>>>>> one-party rule in the South, and then it shifted from Democratic to >>>>>>>>>>> Republican. It wasnAt that long ago that California was a swing >>>>>>>>>>> state,
    or that Iowa was briefly part of the Democratic PartyAs blue wall. >>>>>>>>>>>
    It might take time u far too much time u but when the single party >>>>>>>>>>> fails, eventually the dormant second party revives, the logjam breaks
    and the system resets. But until then our one-party politics is >>>>>>>>>>> undermining our two-party system, and our competition is reduced to >>>>>>>>>>> determining which broken party will prevail.

    dissolve the senate, it was just a needless check on actual democracy

    reform the executive presidency into an executive council (5 reps >>>>>>>>>> from 3
    parties: 2,2,1) requiring consensus decision making where each can >>>>>>>>>> vote
    pass/neg/block - majority to pass, no blocking votes

    Shared power has been tried a number of times since the romans tried >>>>>>>>> it first.a So far it has not worked well.

    i'm literally just recommending what is currently working out well in >>>>>>>> switzerland

    and there no division of territory here, they are not ruling and making
    decrees from different locations like the romans tried several times in
    their later stages. they deliberating as a council until consensus with
    each other is reached, and any one of them can block a policy entirely.

    This is pertinent.a Rome conquered more territory than it could
    reasonably administer.a It also helps that switz is a small country. >>>>>>> Small countries tend to enjoy greater social cohesion.

    switzerland has 3 official languages because it's split into 3 regions >>>>>> with different dominate languages, even today. and up until modern >>>>>> tunnel boring the country was rather difficult to traverse.


    So, rather than solving the towering ambition problem, they have >>>>>>> avoided it by having leaders that lack that characteristic.

    Not a solution to the underlying issue.a And for them, likely not a >>>>>>> long term solution.a Sure you might beat the odds and find 3 good guys >>>>>>> once.a What are the odds then, of doing that again next time?

    it's 5: 2 from the top party, 2 from the second party, and 1 from a >>>>>> third. and they can only pass policy with consensus. i don't know how >>>>>> this remove the problem of ambition ... it's a structural shift in the >>>>>> requirements to pass policy

    u can't just elect one dumbfuck into power and give everyone else the >>>>>> run around, u have five from three different voting blocks, and so it >>>>>> requires putting in people who can actually deliberate

    It kind of looks like Nick top-posted and changed the subject from the >>>>> burger war, to the oligarchs in Russia, then changed the subject again >>>>> to Switzerland following Noah's assertion that the Romans did it and so >>>>> Nick cross-posted to alt.messianic.

    I see no such manipulations. The subject remains burger war. I don't >>>> care guys make it whatever you like.

    Since they both ignored my post, I'm interjecting it again:

    Apparently the reason Switzerland is so successful because it's a
    Libertarian free market mix of social and cultural conservatism with >>>>> strong economic and political liberalism.

    And I asserted and still assert that:

    That must make you feel good. But it does not explain dart's
    assertion.

    Which you have ignored.

    Wait! What?

    So, I'm agreeing with both Nick and David, but I'm not explaining Nick's >>> assertion?
    Why can't Nick explain why Switzerland is a good example of consensus
    governing?

    Apparently Switzerland is a Libertarian free market mix of social and
    cultural conservatism with strong economic and political liberalism.

    Swiss conservatism is generally cautious and traditional (resisting
    rapid changes), while its liberalism favors free-market economics,
    robust civil liberties, and the world's most extensive system of direct
    democracy." - Wikipedia

    Sorry, that is not an explanation. It is however a bias confirmation
    if you were looking for one, which you were, right?

    Nick said Switzerland was a good example of consensus governing. Is he
    right and in agreement with David French, or not?

    I don't think Dave said anything about consensus.



    "Swiss conservatism is generally cautious and traditional (resisting >>>>> rapid changes), while its liberalism favors free-market economics,
    robust civil liberties, and the world's most extensive system of direct >>>>> democracy." - Wikipedia



    The problem that govt's mostly fail to address is what to do with >>>>>>>>> people with towering ambition?a Lock them up and allow them no access >>>>>>>>> to media?

    --
    Noah Sombrero mustachioed villain
    Don't get political with me young man
    or I'll tie you to a railroad track and
    <<<talk>>> to <<<YOOooooo>>>
    Who dares to talk to El Sombrero?
    dares: Ned
    does not dare: Julian shrinks in horror and warns others away

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  • From Wilson@Wilson@nowhere.invalid to alt.buddha.short.fat.guy on Sat Jun 27 13:58:12 2026
    From Newsgroup: alt.buddha.short.fat.guy

    On 6/26/2026 6:15 PM, Noah Sombrero wrote:
    On Fri, 26 Jun 2026 13:51:00 -0400, Wilson <Wilson@nowhere.invalid>
    wrote:
    On 6/26/2026 1:20 PM, Noah Sombrero wrote:
    On Fri, 26 Jun 2026 12:30:57 -0400, Wilson <Wilson@nowhere.invalid>
    wrote:

    That's the first decent thing by French that you've ever posted here.

    You mean the first thing you have agreed with. I recommend it to you
    as a lesson in telling both sides. You seem to have very little sense
    of how that might work.

    Ironic. You apparently can't help but denigrating people who don't agree
    with you.

    I denigrate people who appear having trouble with telling both sides.

    Both? Only two? I thought you believed in lots of sides.

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  • From Noah Sombrero@fedora@fea.st to alt.buddha.short.fat.guy on Sat Jun 27 14:48:45 2026
    From Newsgroup: alt.buddha.short.fat.guy

    On Sat, 27 Jun 2026 13:58:12 -0400, Wilson <Wilson@nowhere.invalid>
    wrote:

    On 6/26/2026 6:15 PM, Noah Sombrero wrote:
    On Fri, 26 Jun 2026 13:51:00 -0400, Wilson <Wilson@nowhere.invalid>
    wrote:
    On 6/26/2026 1:20 PM, Noah Sombrero wrote:
    On Fri, 26 Jun 2026 12:30:57 -0400, Wilson <Wilson@nowhere.invalid>
    wrote:

    That's the first decent thing by French that you've ever posted here. >>>>
    You mean the first thing you have agreed with. I recommend it to you
    as a lesson in telling both sides. You seem to have very little sense >>>> of how that might work.

    Ironic. You apparently can't help but denigrating people who don't agree >>> with you.

    I denigrate people who appear having trouble with telling both sides.

    Both? Only two? I thought you believed in lots of sides.

    Choices, not sides. There might even be more than two sides, but if
    you could somehow bring yourself to show even two sides it would be so impressive.
    --
    Noah Sombrero mustachioed villain
    Don't get political with me young man
    or I'll tie you to a railroad track and
    <<<talk>>> to <<<YOOooooo>>>
    Who dares to talk to El Sombrero?
    dares: Ned
    does not dare: Julian shrinks in horror and warns others away

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  • From Wilson@Wilson@nowhere.invalid to alt.buddha.short.fat.guy on Sat Jun 27 14:59:30 2026
    From Newsgroup: alt.buddha.short.fat.guy

    On 6/27/2026 2:48 PM, Noah Sombrero wrote:
    On Sat, 27 Jun 2026 13:58:12 -0400, Wilson <Wilson@nowhere.invalid>
    wrote:

    On 6/26/2026 6:15 PM, Noah Sombrero wrote:
    On Fri, 26 Jun 2026 13:51:00 -0400, Wilson <Wilson@nowhere.invalid>
    wrote:
    On 6/26/2026 1:20 PM, Noah Sombrero wrote:
    On Fri, 26 Jun 2026 12:30:57 -0400, Wilson <Wilson@nowhere.invalid>
    wrote:

    That's the first decent thing by French that you've ever posted here. >>>>>
    You mean the first thing you have agreed with. I recommend it to you >>>>> as a lesson in telling both sides. You seem to have very little sense >>>>> of how that might work.

    Ironic. You apparently can't help but denigrating people who don't agree >>>> with you.

    I denigrate people who appear having trouble with telling both sides.

    Both? Only two? I thought you believed in lots of sides.

    Choices, not sides. There might even be more than two sides, but if
    you could somehow bring yourself to show even two sides it would be so impressive.

    I do it all the time.

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  • From Noah Sombrero@fedora@fea.st to alt.buddha.short.fat.guy on Sat Jun 27 15:10:37 2026
    From Newsgroup: alt.buddha.short.fat.guy

    On Sat, 27 Jun 2026 14:59:30 -0400, Wilson <Wilson@nowhere.invalid>
    wrote:

    On 6/27/2026 2:48 PM, Noah Sombrero wrote:
    On Sat, 27 Jun 2026 13:58:12 -0400, Wilson <Wilson@nowhere.invalid>
    wrote:

    On 6/26/2026 6:15 PM, Noah Sombrero wrote:
    On Fri, 26 Jun 2026 13:51:00 -0400, Wilson <Wilson@nowhere.invalid>
    wrote:
    On 6/26/2026 1:20 PM, Noah Sombrero wrote:
    On Fri, 26 Jun 2026 12:30:57 -0400, Wilson <Wilson@nowhere.invalid> >>>>>> wrote:

    That's the first decent thing by French that you've ever posted here. >>>>>>
    You mean the first thing you have agreed with. I recommend it to you >>>>>> as a lesson in telling both sides. You seem to have very little sense >>>>>> of how that might work.

    Ironic. You apparently can't help but denigrating people who don't agree >>>>> with you.

    I denigrate people who appear having trouble with telling both sides.

    Both? Only two? I thought you believed in lots of sides.

    Choices, not sides. There might even be more than two sides, but if
    you could somehow bring yourself to show even two sides it would be so
    impressive.

    I do it all the time.

    Saying does not make it so.
    --
    Noah Sombrero mustachioed villain
    Don't get political with me young man
    or I'll tie you to a railroad track and
    <<<talk>>> to <<<YOOooooo>>>
    Who dares to talk to El Sombrero?
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  • From Dude@punditster@gmail.com to alt.buddha.short.fat.guy on Sat Jun 27 15:45:39 2026
    From Newsgroup: alt.buddha.short.fat.guy

    On 6/26/2026 6:59 PM, Noah Sombrero wrote:
    On Fri, 26 Jun 2026 16:40:49 -0700, Dude <punditster@gmail.com> wrote:

    On 6/26/2026 3:13 PM, Noah Sombrero wrote:
    On Fri, 26 Jun 2026 12:05:52 -0700, Dude <punditster@gmail.com> wrote:

    On 6/25/2026 9:18 PM, Noah Sombrero wrote:
    On Thu, 25 Jun 2026 20:36:51 -0700, Dude <punditster@gmail.com> wrote: >>>>>
    On 6/25/2026 3:44 PM, dart200 wrote:
    On 6/25/26 9:35 AM, Noah Sombrero wrote:
    On Wed, 24 Jun 2026 21:40:10 -0700, dart200
    <user7160@newsgrouper.org.invalid> wrote:

    On 6/24/26 9:17 PM, Noah Sombrero wrote:
    On Wed, 24 Jun 2026 20:39:28 -0700, dart200
    <user7160@newsgrouper.org.invalid> wrote:

    On 6/24/26 7:51 PM, Noah Sombrero wrote:

    NY Times,

    June 24, 2026

    Why does our seemingly competitive two-party system produce so much
    stagnation and corruption?

    because a duopoly isn't competition,

    and because it's actually one club of people: oligarchs


    By David French

    ThererCOs a line from a speech that I keep thinking about. >>>>>>>>>>>>
    I wrote about it last month. Shane Massey, the Republican majority >>>>>>>>>>>> leader in the South Carolina Senate, spoke against a Trump-inspired
    plan to redistrict the state.

    rCLI will tell my Republican friends: Republicans are stronger when the
    Democrat Party is vibrant and viable,rCY Massey said. rCLWe are. >>>>>>>>>>>> Competition makes you better, yrCOall.rCY

    IrCOm reminded of a conversation I had many years ago with a friend who
    was then a senior executive at McDonaldrCOs (my favorite restaurant).

    (imagine ur favorite restaurant being mcdonalds ?)

    When we spoke it was obvious that McDonaldrCOs had decisively won the
    burger wars, and that its chief competitors, Burger King and WendyrCOs,
    were no longer threats to dislodge Ronald McDonald from the Throne of
    Fries.

    I asked him if there was a sense of satisfaction at the company, and
    his response surprised me. rCLI have mixed feelings,rCY he said. rCLWe were
    a great company when the competition was intense.rCY

    The innovation and energy required to stave off a challenger was >>>>>>>>>>>> invigorating and perhaps most crucially, it staved off stagnation. >>>>>>>>>>>>
    So why isnrCOt this happening in American politics? Our nation has two
    parties of near-identical size and power, at least in theory. Control
    of the national government routinely flips back and forth, and even
    when one side wins full control its margins of victory are extremely
    narrow.

    And yet, instead of creating innovation and energy, our political >>>>>>>>>>>> competition seems to be yielding stagnation and corruption. I donrCOt
    believe that stagnation and corruption exist equally on both sides of
    the aisle, but itrCOs hard to find anyone who believes the Democratic
    Party is healthy and vibrant, especially after two losses to Donald
    Trump.

    Even if the two parties arenrCOt equally corrupt, they do share a >>>>>>>>>>>> different common characteristic: TheyrCOre equally repulsive to the
    public.

    A Gallup poll in January found that 45 percent of Americans identify
    as independents, a record since Gallup began regular polling in 1988.
    Equal percentages of adults, 27 percent, identify as Republicans >>>>>>>>>>>> or as
    Democrats.

    This doesnrCOt mean that neither side can win. When the public is >>>>>>>>>>>> disgusted with the current leadership, it has but one other >>>>>>>>>>>> alternative. Many voters are voting against incumbents more than >>>>>>>>>>>> theyrCOre endorsing their challengers.

    If the competition between McDonaldrCOs and Burger King gave us tastier
    fries, somehow the competition between Republicans and Democrats is
    giving us rotten politics.

    But what if we donrCOt actually have a competitive two-party system?
    What if our nation actually has two one-party systems, instead? >>>>>>>>>>>> And if
    the United States has two one-party systems, then that means that >>>>>>>>>>>> each
    way they turn voters are confronted with the arrogance, stagnation >>>>>>>>>>>> and
    corruption that almost always disfigures single-party rule. >>>>>>>>>>>>
    The best illustration of this reality is found in state government >>>>>>>>>>>> rCLtrifectas.rCY ThatrCOs the term for a state where one party controls the
    governorrCOs mansion and both houses of the state legislature. As of
    this month, there are 23 Republican trifectas and 16 Democratic ones.
    That leaves 11 states with divided governments.

    Republicans may govern more states, but Democratic states tend to be
    more populous. As a result, a roughly equal percentage of Americans
    live under total red or blue rule. As of January, 39.1 percent of >>>>>>>>>>>> Americans lived in blue trifecta states, and 41.5 percent lived in >>>>>>>>>>>> red
    trifecta states, which means that less than 20 percent of the >>>>>>>>>>>> population lives in a divided state.

    Combine trifecta state control with aggressive partisan gerrymanders,
    and you have exactly the situation in Congress that my colleague Tom
    Edsall described this week: rCLAn overwhelming majority of House >>>>>>>>>>>> members
    run in districts that are safe in the general election, where the >>>>>>>>>>>> only
    threat to an incumbent is from a more ideologically extreme >>>>>>>>>>>> challenger
    in the primary.rCY

    Another way of putting it is that the other side is so weak in so >>>>>>>>>>>> many
    states and congressional districts that politicians can build entire
    careers without having to appeal to voters on the other side of the
    aisle.

    For example, even in a year of remarkable public discontent, in which
    the House may well change hands, the vast majority of members of >>>>>>>>>>>> Congress are completely safe. The Cook Political Report lists 186 >>>>>>>>>>>> districts as solid Republican and 182 districts as solid Democrat. >>>>>>>>>>>> There are only 18 tossup races. If you add in the 20 races that >>>>>>>>>>>> merely
    lean in one direction or the other, that gives you a grand total >>>>>>>>>>>> of 38
    competitive races in a 435-member House of Representatives. >>>>>>>>>>>>
    As a result, one-party politicians are often born in the partiesrCO
    bases and inept at reaching anyone even a few inches to their >>>>>>>>>>>> ideological right or left. In fact, the very effort to reach out to
    the opposition is usually interpreted as weakness, a misguided >>>>>>>>>>>> compromise against an uncompromising foe.

    The art of compromise vanishes before our eyes. After all, >>>>>>>>>>>> generations
    of politicians now come from the roughly 80 percent of the country >>>>>>>>>>>> where compromise is almost always unnecessary. Compromises are >>>>>>>>>>>> internal only, as the party negotiates with itself. The opposition >>>>>>>>>>>> might as well not exist.

    The partisan majority in a single-party state will often radicalize.
    As IrCOve explained before, the law of group polarization suggests that
    when like-minded people deliberate, they tend to become more extreme.
    Red bubbles get redder, Blue bubbles get bluer.

    ItrCOs not just that the two sides separate ideologically. They also
    develop very different political cultures rCo to the extent that each
    side is completely convinced that the other side is just, well, >>>>>>>>>>>> weird.
    Our nation is full of radicalized people who donrCOt fully understand
    that theyrCOre radical because everyone they know agrees with >>>>>>>>>>>> everything
    they say.

    IrCOve heard Republicans and Democrats use exactly the same rCLStar WarsrCY
    reference to describe the other side. TheyrCOll say the other siderCOs
    convention, for example, is like the Mos Eisley Cantina, the bar in
    rCLStar WarsrCY filled with bizarre creatures from across the galaxy.

    Compounding the problem, the sheer size of the red and blue trifectas
    mean that they define the nature of the respective parties, not >>>>>>>>>>>> swing-state politicians rCo even though swing-state politicians are
    indispensable to party control. The single-party partisans tell us >>>>>>>>>>>> what it means to be a rCLrealrCY Republican or a rCLrealrCY Democrat and
    often
    despise the rare politicians from their own party who can win on >>>>>>>>>>>> hostile ground. TheyrCOre the squishes, after all.

    Politics is always vulnerable to corruption, but single-party rule >>>>>>>>>>>> can
    be a virtual petri dish for favoritism and graft. We all know that >>>>>>>>>>>> institutions tend to be terrible at policing themselves, and when one
    party possesses complete control, it is rarely as vigilant at >>>>>>>>>>>> punishing its own as it is at pummeling the other side. >>>>>>>>>>>>
    Even swing states arenrCOt immune from the maladies of one-party rule.
    The states themselves are often carved up into one-party enclaves. >>>>>>>>>>>>
    President Trump is perhaps the ultimate example of what one-party >>>>>>>>>>>> rule
    in a two-party nation can produce. While he governs for himself (as
    many one-party politicians do), herCOs also vicious and vengeful to the
    other side, and so long as he keeps attacking the hated Democratic >>>>>>>>>>>> foe, his party will gladly cover for his corruption and graft. >>>>>>>>>>>>
    But if the Democrats challenge Trump with the products of their own
    one-party rule, with a candidate who canrCOt even begin to speak the
    language of the swing voter, much less the language of the >>>>>>>>>>>> disaffected
    Republican, then werCOre setting ourselves up for yet another lurch
    back
    to the competing extreme.

    There is no easy way for Americans to change this dynamic. But >>>>>>>>>>>> perhaps
    rCo just perhaps rCo we can start by turning to those politicians whorCOve
    proven that theyrCOre culturally and politically bilingual. They can
    win
    on hostile (or purple) ground. One can think of Andy Beshear, the >>>>>>>>>>>> governor of Kentucky, or Josh Shapiro, the governor of Pennsylvania.
    On the Republican side, I can still remember when Charlie Baker, as
    governor of Massachusetts, was by some counts the most popular >>>>>>>>>>>> governor in America. In 2022, he recorded a stunning 74 percent >>>>>>>>>>>> approval rating.

    All of these politicians, though, suffer from the same vulnerability.
    The partisan base can believe theyrCOre weak, that theyrCOre not real
    Democrats or Republicans, mere DINOs or RINOs. But a party shouldnrCOt
    be defined by its most zealous ideologues. Why would a progressive in
    Brooklyn be a more authentic representative of the Democratic Party
    than a moderate in Tennessee? The same analysis applies to >>>>>>>>>>>> Republicans. You are not more Republican the more guns you own or the
    more often you go to church rCo that makes you a type of Republican,
    but
    not the ideal form.

    There are many, many Republicans, for example, who will rejoice if >>>>>>>>>>>> Susan Collins loses in Maine. She voted to convict Trump, and which
    real Republican would do that? There should be no such thing as the
    model ideological candidate.

    To quote the Apostle Paul in 1 Corinthians, one body has many parts,
    and rCLthe eye cannot say to the hand, rCyI donrCOt need you!rCO And the head
    cannot say to the feet, rCyI donrCOt need you!rCOrCY The parties need
    ideological diversity. Groupthink is dangerous, no matter where it is
    found.

    IrCOd like to end a rather bleak newsletter with a dash of optimism. As
    the Gallup poll indicates, present trends cannot continue forever. If
    the number of independents continues to grow, and the share of >>>>>>>>>>>> partisans continues to shrink, the present system will grow more >>>>>>>>>>>> unstable. A diminishing percentage of Americans will not be able to
    hold the same amount of power.

    One-party rule can look imposing, but it is often fragile. It wasnrCOt
    that long ago, for example, when there was a different kind of >>>>>>>>>>>> one-party rule in the South, and then it shifted from Democratic to
    Republican. It wasnrCOt that long ago that California was a swing >>>>>>>>>>>> state,
    or that Iowa was briefly part of the Democratic PartyrCOs blue wall.

    It might take time rCo far too much time rCo but when the single party
    fails, eventually the dormant second party revives, the logjam breaks
    and the system resets. But until then our one-party politics is >>>>>>>>>>>> undermining our two-party system, and our competition is reduced to
    determining which broken party will prevail.

    dissolve the senate, it was just a needless check on actual democracy

    reform the executive presidency into an executive council (5 reps >>>>>>>>>>> from 3
    parties: 2,2,1) requiring consensus decision making where each can >>>>>>>>>>> vote
    pass/neg/block - majority to pass, no blocking votes

    Shared power has been tried a number of times since the romans tried >>>>>>>>>> it first.-a So far it has not worked well.

    i'm literally just recommending what is currently working out well in >>>>>>>>> switzerland

    and there no division of territory here, they are not ruling and making
    decrees from different locations like the romans tried several times in
    their later stages. they deliberating as a council until consensus with
    each other is reached, and any one of them can block a policy entirely.

    This is pertinent.-a Rome conquered more territory than it could >>>>>>>> reasonably administer.-a It also helps that switz is a small country. >>>>>>>> Small countries tend to enjoy greater social cohesion.

    switzerland has 3 official languages because it's split into 3 regions >>>>>>> with different dominate languages, even today. and up until modern >>>>>>> tunnel boring the country was rather difficult to traverse.


    So, rather than solving the towering ambition problem, they have >>>>>>>> avoided it by having leaders that lack that characteristic.

    Not a solution to the underlying issue.-a And for them, likely not a >>>>>>>> long term solution.-a Sure you might beat the odds and find 3 good guys
    once.-a What are the odds then, of doing that again next time?

    it's 5: 2 from the top party, 2 from the second party, and 1 from a >>>>>>> third. and they can only pass policy with consensus. i don't know how >>>>>>> this remove the problem of ambition ... it's a structural shift in the >>>>>>> requirements to pass policy

    u can't just elect one dumbfuck into power and give everyone else the >>>>>>> run around, u have five from three different voting blocks, and so it >>>>>>> requires putting in people who can actually deliberate

    It kind of looks like Nick top-posted and changed the subject from the >>>>>> burger war, to the oligarchs in Russia, then changed the subject again >>>>>> to Switzerland following Noah's assertion that the Romans did it and so >>>>>> Nick cross-posted to alt.messianic.

    I see no such manipulations. The subject remains burger war. I don't >>>>> care guys make it whatever you like.

    Since they both ignored my post, I'm interjecting it again:

    Apparently the reason Switzerland is so successful because it's a
    Libertarian free market mix of social and cultural conservatism with >>>>>> strong economic and political liberalism.

    And I asserted and still assert that:

    That must make you feel good. But it does not explain dart's
    assertion.

    Which you have ignored.

    Wait! What?

    So, I'm agreeing with both Nick and David, but I'm not explaining Nick's >>>> assertion?
    Why can't Nick explain why Switzerland is a good example of consensus
    governing?

    Apparently Switzerland is a Libertarian free market mix of social and
    cultural conservatism with strong economic and political liberalism.

    Swiss conservatism is generally cautious and traditional (resisting
    rapid changes), while its liberalism favors free-market economics,
    robust civil liberties, and the world's most extensive system of direct >>>> democracy." - Wikipedia

    Sorry, that is not an explanation. It is however a bias confirmation
    if you were looking for one, which you were, right?

    Nick said Switzerland was a good example of consensus governing. Is he
    right and in agreement with David French, or not?

    I don't think Dave said anything about consensus.

    Concentrate, Noah. Nick said Switzerland was a good example of consensus governing. I agree with Nick and David about the two-party system. YMMV.




    "Swiss conservatism is generally cautious and traditional (resisting >>>>>> rapid changes), while its liberalism favors free-market economics, >>>>>> robust civil liberties, and the world's most extensive system of direct >>>>>> democracy." - Wikipedia



    The problem that govt's mostly fail to address is what to do with >>>>>>>>>> people with towering ambition?-a Lock them up and allow them no access
    to media?


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  • From Dude@punditster@gmail.com to alt.buddha.short.fat.guy on Sat Jun 27 17:55:34 2026
    From Newsgroup: alt.buddha.short.fat.guy

    On 6/26/2026 3:14 PM, Noah Sombrero wrote:
    On Fri, 26 Jun 2026 12:15:47 -0700, Dude <punditster@gmail.com> wrote:

    On 6/25/2026 9:18 PM, Noah Sombrero wrote:
    On Thu, 25 Jun 2026 18:56:10 -0700, Dude <punditster@gmail.com> wrote:

    On 6/25/2026 9:42 AM, Noah Sombrero wrote:
    On Thu, 25 Jun 2026 08:58:42 -0700, Dude <punditster@gmail.com> wrote: >>>>>
    On 6/24/2026 8:39 PM, dart200 wrote:
    On 6/24/26 7:51 PM, Noah Sombrero wrote:

    NY Times,

    June 24, 2026

    Why does our seemingly competitive two-party system produce so much >>>>>>>> stagnation and corruption?

    because a duopoly isn't competition,

    A top-poster now, eh?

    and because it's actually one club of people: oligarchs

    Yes. I think that's what David French wrote, except he left out the word >>>>>> "oligarchs" - probably because he does not write biased opinions that >>>>>> confuse his readers. Oligarchs are in Russia - there's no parties - it"s >>>>>> an oligarchy.

    Very good point. You have actually forfeited any right to call that >>>>> article propaganda. Are you ok with that?

    Nick is the informant that called the article propaganda by inserting
    the word "oligarch" in a top post. I'm not OK with that. YMMV.\

    Tough. Mommies are good for consoling such ouchies.

    David said nothing about Russian oligarchs. Why is that?

    Because stars are round and not square?

    Not exactly. Nick said the US could not have consensus governing
    "because it's actually one club of people: oligarchs".

    We don't have oligarchs in the US. Nick trashed you and David. Good work!






    By David French

    ThererCOs a line from a speech that I keep thinking about.

    I wrote about it last month. Shane Massey, the Republican majority >>>>>>>> leader in the South Carolina Senate, spoke against a Trump-inspired >>>>>>>> plan to redistrict the state.

    rCLI will tell my Republican friends: Republicans are stronger when the
    Democrat Party is vibrant and viable,rCY Massey said. rCLWe are. >>>>>>>> Competition makes you better, yrCOall.rCY

    IrCOm reminded of a conversation I had many years ago with a friend who
    was then a senior executive at McDonaldrCOs (my favorite restaurant). >>>>>>>
    (imagine ur favorite restaurant being mcdonalds ?)

    When we spoke it was obvious that McDonaldrCOs had decisively won the >>>>>>>> burger wars, and that its chief competitors, Burger King and WendyrCOs,
    were no longer threats to dislodge Ronald McDonald from the Throne of >>>>>>>> Fries.

    I asked him if there was a sense of satisfaction at the company, and >>>>>>>> his response surprised me. rCLI have mixed feelings,rCY he said. rCLWe were
    a great company when the competition was intense.rCY

    The innovation and energy required to stave off a challenger was >>>>>>>> invigorating and perhaps most crucially, it staved off stagnation. >>>>>>>>
    So why isnrCOt this happening in American politics? Our nation has two >>>>>>>> parties of near-identical size and power, at least in theory. Control >>>>>>>> of the national government routinely flips back and forth, and even >>>>>>>> when one side wins full control its margins of victory are extremely >>>>>>>> narrow.

    And yet, instead of creating innovation and energy, our political >>>>>>>> competition seems to be yielding stagnation and corruption. I donrCOt >>>>>>>> believe that stagnation and corruption exist equally on both sides of >>>>>>>> the aisle, but itrCOs hard to find anyone who believes the Democratic >>>>>>>> Party is healthy and vibrant, especially after two losses to Donald >>>>>>>> Trump.

    Even if the two parties arenrCOt equally corrupt, they do share a >>>>>>>> different common characteristic: TheyrCOre equally repulsive to the >>>>>>>> public.

    A Gallup poll in January found that 45 percent of Americans identify >>>>>>>> as independents, a record since Gallup began regular polling in 1988. >>>>>>>> Equal percentages of adults, 27 percent, identify as Republicans or as >>>>>>>> Democrats.

    This doesnrCOt mean that neither side can win. When the public is >>>>>>>> disgusted with the current leadership, it has but one other
    alternative. Many voters are voting against incumbents more than >>>>>>>> theyrCOre endorsing their challengers.

    If the competition between McDonaldrCOs and Burger King gave us tastier
    fries, somehow the competition between Republicans and Democrats is >>>>>>>> giving us rotten politics.

    But what if we donrCOt actually have a competitive two-party system? >>>>>>>> What if our nation actually has two one-party systems, instead? And if >>>>>>>> the United States has two one-party systems, then that means that each >>>>>>>> way they turn voters are confronted with the arrogance, stagnation and >>>>>>>> corruption that almost always disfigures single-party rule.

    The best illustration of this reality is found in state government >>>>>>>> rCLtrifectas.rCY ThatrCOs the term for a state where one party controls the
    governorrCOs mansion and both houses of the state legislature. As of >>>>>>>> this month, there are 23 Republican trifectas and 16 Democratic ones. >>>>>>>> That leaves 11 states with divided governments.

    Republicans may govern more states, but Democratic states tend to be >>>>>>>> more populous. As a result, a roughly equal percentage of Americans >>>>>>>> live under total red or blue rule. As of January, 39.1 percent of >>>>>>>> Americans lived in blue trifecta states, and 41.5 percent lived in red >>>>>>>> trifecta states, which means that less than 20 percent of the
    population lives in a divided state.

    Combine trifecta state control with aggressive partisan gerrymanders, >>>>>>>> and you have exactly the situation in Congress that my colleague Tom >>>>>>>> Edsall described this week: rCLAn overwhelming majority of House members
    run in districts that are safe in the general election, where the only >>>>>>>> threat to an incumbent is from a more ideologically extreme challenger >>>>>>>> in the primary.rCY

    Another way of putting it is that the other side is so weak in so many >>>>>>>> states and congressional districts that politicians can build entire >>>>>>>> careers without having to appeal to voters on the other side of the >>>>>>>> aisle.

    For example, even in a year of remarkable public discontent, in which >>>>>>>> the House may well change hands, the vast majority of members of >>>>>>>> Congress are completely safe. The Cook Political Report lists 186 >>>>>>>> districts as solid Republican and 182 districts as solid Democrat. >>>>>>>> There are only 18 tossup races. If you add in the 20 races that merely >>>>>>>> lean in one direction or the other, that gives you a grand total of 38 >>>>>>>> competitive races in a 435-member House of Representatives.

    As a result, one-party politicians are often born in the partiesrCO >>>>>>>> bases and inept at reaching anyone even a few inches to their
    ideological right or left. In fact, the very effort to reach out to >>>>>>>> the opposition is usually interpreted as weakness, a misguided >>>>>>>> compromise against an uncompromising foe.

    The art of compromise vanishes before our eyes. After all, generations >>>>>>>> of politicians now come from the roughly 80 percent of the country >>>>>>>> where compromise is almost always unnecessary. Compromises are >>>>>>>> internal only, as the party negotiates with itself. The opposition >>>>>>>> might as well not exist.

    The partisan majority in a single-party state will often radicalize. >>>>>>>> As IrCOve explained before, the law of group polarization suggests that
    when like-minded people deliberate, they tend to become more extreme. >>>>>>>> Red bubbles get redder, Blue bubbles get bluer.

    ItrCOs not just that the two sides separate ideologically. They also >>>>>>>> develop very different political cultures rCo to the extent that each >>>>>>>> side is completely convinced that the other side is just, well, weird. >>>>>>>> Our nation is full of radicalized people who donrCOt fully understand >>>>>>>> that theyrCOre radical because everyone they know agrees with everything
    they say.

    IrCOve heard Republicans and Democrats use exactly the same rCLStar WarsrCY
    reference to describe the other side. TheyrCOll say the other siderCOs >>>>>>>> convention, for example, is like the Mos Eisley Cantina, the bar in >>>>>>>> rCLStar WarsrCY filled with bizarre creatures from across the galaxy. >>>>>>>>
    Compounding the problem, the sheer size of the red and blue trifectas >>>>>>>> mean that they define the nature of the respective parties, not >>>>>>>> swing-state politicians rCo even though swing-state politicians are >>>>>>>> indispensable to party control. The single-party partisans tell us >>>>>>>> what it means to be a rCLrealrCY Republican or a rCLrealrCY Democrat and often
    despise the rare politicians from their own party who can win on >>>>>>>> hostile ground. TheyrCOre the squishes, after all.

    Politics is always vulnerable to corruption, but single-party rule can >>>>>>>> be a virtual petri dish for favoritism and graft. We all know that >>>>>>>> institutions tend to be terrible at policing themselves, and when one >>>>>>>> party possesses complete control, it is rarely as vigilant at
    punishing its own as it is at pummeling the other side.

    Even swing states arenrCOt immune from the maladies of one-party rule. >>>>>>>> The states themselves are often carved up into one-party enclaves. >>>>>>>>
    President Trump is perhaps the ultimate example of what one-party rule >>>>>>>> in a two-party nation can produce. While he governs for himself (as >>>>>>>> many one-party politicians do), herCOs also vicious and vengeful to the
    other side, and so long as he keeps attacking the hated Democratic >>>>>>>> foe, his party will gladly cover for his corruption and graft. >>>>>>>>
    But if the Democrats challenge Trump with the products of their own >>>>>>>> one-party rule, with a candidate who canrCOt even begin to speak the >>>>>>>> language of the swing voter, much less the language of the disaffected >>>>>>>> Republican, then werCOre setting ourselves up for yet another lurch back
    to the competing extreme.

    There is no easy way for Americans to change this dynamic. But perhaps >>>>>>>> rCo just perhaps rCo we can start by turning to those politicians whorCOve
    proven that theyrCOre culturally and politically bilingual. They can win
    on hostile (or purple) ground. One can think of Andy Beshear, the >>>>>>>> governor of Kentucky, or Josh Shapiro, the governor of Pennsylvania. >>>>>>>> On the Republican side, I can still remember when Charlie Baker, as >>>>>>>> governor of Massachusetts, was by some counts the most popular >>>>>>>> governor in America. In 2022, he recorded a stunning 74 percent >>>>>>>> approval rating.

    All of these politicians, though, suffer from the same vulnerability. >>>>>>>> The partisan base can believe theyrCOre weak, that theyrCOre not real >>>>>>>> Democrats or Republicans, mere DINOs or RINOs. But a party shouldnrCOt >>>>>>>> be defined by its most zealous ideologues. Why would a progressive in >>>>>>>> Brooklyn be a more authentic representative of the Democratic Party >>>>>>>> than a moderate in Tennessee? The same analysis applies to
    Republicans. You are not more Republican the more guns you own or the >>>>>>>> more often you go to church rCo that makes you a type of Republican, but
    not the ideal form.

    There are many, many Republicans, for example, who will rejoice if >>>>>>>> Susan Collins loses in Maine. She voted to convict Trump, and which >>>>>>>> real Republican would do that? There should be no such thing as the >>>>>>>> model ideological candidate.

    To quote the Apostle Paul in 1 Corinthians, one body has many parts, >>>>>>>> and rCLthe eye cannot say to the hand, rCyI donrCOt need you!rCO And the head
    cannot say to the feet, rCyI donrCOt need you!rCOrCY The parties need >>>>>>>> ideological diversity. Groupthink is dangerous, no matter where it is >>>>>>>> found.

    IrCOd like to end a rather bleak newsletter with a dash of optimism. As
    the Gallup poll indicates, present trends cannot continue forever. If >>>>>>>> the number of independents continues to grow, and the share of >>>>>>>> partisans continues to shrink, the present system will grow more >>>>>>>> unstable. A diminishing percentage of Americans will not be able to >>>>>>>> hold the same amount of power.

    One-party rule can look imposing, but it is often fragile. It wasnrCOt >>>>>>>> that long ago, for example, when there was a different kind of >>>>>>>> one-party rule in the South, and then it shifted from Democratic to >>>>>>>> Republican. It wasnrCOt that long ago that California was a swing state,
    or that Iowa was briefly part of the Democratic PartyrCOs blue wall. >>>>>>>>
    It might take time rCo far too much time rCo but when the single party >>>>>>>> fails, eventually the dormant second party revives, the logjam breaks >>>>>>>> and the system resets. But until then our one-party politics is >>>>>>>> undermining our two-party system, and our competition is reduced to >>>>>>>> determining which broken party will prevail.

    dissolve the senate, it was just a needless check on actual democracy >>>>>>>
    reform the executive presidency into an executive council (5 reps from 3
    parties: 2,2,1) requiring consensus decision making where each can vote >>>>>>> pass/neg/block - majority to pass, no blocking votes


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  • From Dude@punditster@gmail.com to alt.buddha.short.fat.guy on Sat Jun 27 17:59:57 2026
    From Newsgroup: alt.buddha.short.fat.guy

    On 6/26/2026 3:15 PM, Noah Sombrero wrote:
    On Fri, 26 Jun 2026 13:51:00 -0400, Wilson <Wilson@nowhere.invalid>
    wrote:

    On 6/26/2026 1:20 PM, Noah Sombrero wrote:
    On Fri, 26 Jun 2026 12:30:57 -0400, Wilson <Wilson@nowhere.invalid>
    wrote:

    On 6/24/2026 10:51 PM, Noah Sombrero wrote:

    NY Times,

    June 24, 2026

    Why does our seemingly competitive two-party system produce so much
    stagnation and corruption?

    By David French

    ThererCOs a line from a speech that I keep thinking about.

    I wrote about it last month. Shane Massey, the Republican majority
    leader in the South Carolina Senate, spoke against a Trump-inspired
    plan to redistrict the state.

    rCLI will tell my Republican friends: Republicans are stronger when the >>>>> Democrat Party is vibrant and viable,rCY Massey said. rCLWe are.
    Competition makes you better, yrCOall.rCY

    IrCOm reminded of a conversation I had many years ago with a friend who >>>>> was then a senior executive at McDonaldrCOs (my favorite restaurant). >>>>> When we spoke it was obvious that McDonaldrCOs had decisively won the >>>>> burger wars, and that its chief competitors, Burger King and WendyrCOs, >>>>> were no longer threats to dislodge Ronald McDonald from the Throne of >>>>> Fries.

    I asked him if there was a sense of satisfaction at the company, and >>>>> his response surprised me. rCLI have mixed feelings,rCY he said. rCLWe were
    a great company when the competition was intense.rCY

    The innovation and energy required to stave off a challenger was
    invigorating and perhaps most crucially, it staved off stagnation.

    So why isnrCOt this happening in American politics? Our nation has two >>>>> parties of near-identical size and power, at least in theory. Control >>>>> of the national government routinely flips back and forth, and even
    when one side wins full control its margins of victory are extremely >>>>> narrow.

    And yet, instead of creating innovation and energy, our political
    competition seems to be yielding stagnation and corruption. I donrCOt >>>>> believe that stagnation and corruption exist equally on both sides of >>>>> the aisle, but itrCOs hard to find anyone who believes the Democratic >>>>> Party is healthy and vibrant, especially after two losses to Donald
    Trump.

    Even if the two parties arenrCOt equally corrupt, they do share a
    different common characteristic: TheyrCOre equally repulsive to the
    public.

    A Gallup poll in January found that 45 percent of Americans identify >>>>> as independents, a record since Gallup began regular polling in 1988. >>>>> Equal percentages of adults, 27 percent, identify as Republicans or as >>>>> Democrats.

    This doesnrCOt mean that neither side can win. When the public is
    disgusted with the current leadership, it has but one other
    alternative. Many voters are voting against incumbents more than
    theyrCOre endorsing their challengers.

    If the competition between McDonaldrCOs and Burger King gave us tastier >>>>> fries, somehow the competition between Republicans and Democrats is
    giving us rotten politics.

    But what if we donrCOt actually have a competitive two-party system? >>>>> What if our nation actually has two one-party systems, instead? And if >>>>> the United States has two one-party systems, then that means that each >>>>> way they turn voters are confronted with the arrogance, stagnation and >>>>> corruption that almost always disfigures single-party rule.

    The best illustration of this reality is found in state government
    rCLtrifectas.rCY ThatrCOs the term for a state where one party controls the
    governorrCOs mansion and both houses of the state legislature. As of >>>>> this month, there are 23 Republican trifectas and 16 Democratic ones. >>>>> That leaves 11 states with divided governments.

    Republicans may govern more states, but Democratic states tend to be >>>>> more populous. As a result, a roughly equal percentage of Americans
    live under total red or blue rule. As of January, 39.1 percent of
    Americans lived in blue trifecta states, and 41.5 percent lived in red >>>>> trifecta states, which means that less than 20 percent of the
    population lives in a divided state.

    Combine trifecta state control with aggressive partisan gerrymanders, >>>>> and you have exactly the situation in Congress that my colleague Tom >>>>> Edsall described this week: rCLAn overwhelming majority of House members >>>>> run in districts that are safe in the general election, where the only >>>>> threat to an incumbent is from a more ideologically extreme challenger >>>>> in the primary.rCY

    Another way of putting it is that the other side is so weak in so many >>>>> states and congressional districts that politicians can build entire >>>>> careers without having to appeal to voters on the other side of the
    aisle.

    For example, even in a year of remarkable public discontent, in which >>>>> the House may well change hands, the vast majority of members of
    Congress are completely safe. The Cook Political Report lists 186
    districts as solid Republican and 182 districts as solid Democrat.
    There are only 18 tossup races. If you add in the 20 races that merely >>>>> lean in one direction or the other, that gives you a grand total of 38 >>>>> competitive races in a 435-member House of Representatives.

    As a result, one-party politicians are often born in the partiesrCO
    bases and inept at reaching anyone even a few inches to their
    ideological right or left. In fact, the very effort to reach out to
    the opposition is usually interpreted as weakness, a misguided
    compromise against an uncompromising foe.

    The art of compromise vanishes before our eyes. After all, generations >>>>> of politicians now come from the roughly 80 percent of the country
    where compromise is almost always unnecessary. Compromises are
    internal only, as the party negotiates with itself. The opposition
    might as well not exist.

    The partisan majority in a single-party state will often radicalize. >>>>> As IrCOve explained before, the law of group polarization suggests that >>>>> when like-minded people deliberate, they tend to become more extreme. >>>>> Red bubbles get redder, Blue bubbles get bluer.

    ItrCOs not just that the two sides separate ideologically. They also >>>>> develop very different political cultures rCo to the extent that each >>>>> side is completely convinced that the other side is just, well, weird. >>>>> Our nation is full of radicalized people who donrCOt fully understand >>>>> that theyrCOre radical because everyone they know agrees with everything >>>>> they say.

    IrCOve heard Republicans and Democrats use exactly the same rCLStar WarsrCY
    reference to describe the other side. TheyrCOll say the other siderCOs >>>>> convention, for example, is like the Mos Eisley Cantina, the bar in
    rCLStar WarsrCY filled with bizarre creatures from across the galaxy. >>>>>
    Compounding the problem, the sheer size of the red and blue trifectas >>>>> mean that they define the nature of the respective parties, not
    swing-state politicians rCo even though swing-state politicians are
    indispensable to party control. The single-party partisans tell us
    what it means to be a rCLrealrCY Republican or a rCLrealrCY Democrat and often
    despise the rare politicians from their own party who can win on
    hostile ground. TheyrCOre the squishes, after all.

    Politics is always vulnerable to corruption, but single-party rule can >>>>> be a virtual petri dish for favoritism and graft. We all know that
    institutions tend to be terrible at policing themselves, and when one >>>>> party possesses complete control, it is rarely as vigilant at
    punishing its own as it is at pummeling the other side.

    Even swing states arenrCOt immune from the maladies of one-party rule. >>>>> The states themselves are often carved up into one-party enclaves.

    President Trump is perhaps the ultimate example of what one-party rule >>>>> in a two-party nation can produce. While he governs for himself (as
    many one-party politicians do), herCOs also vicious and vengeful to the >>>>> other side, and so long as he keeps attacking the hated Democratic
    foe, his party will gladly cover for his corruption and graft.

    But if the Democrats challenge Trump with the products of their own
    one-party rule, with a candidate who canrCOt even begin to speak the >>>>> language of the swing voter, much less the language of the disaffected >>>>> Republican, then werCOre setting ourselves up for yet another lurch back >>>>> to the competing extreme.

    There is no easy way for Americans to change this dynamic. But perhaps >>>>> rCo just perhaps rCo we can start by turning to those politicians whorCOve
    proven that theyrCOre culturally and politically bilingual. They can win >>>>> on hostile (or purple) ground. One can think of Andy Beshear, the
    governor of Kentucky, or Josh Shapiro, the governor of Pennsylvania. >>>>> On the Republican side, I can still remember when Charlie Baker, as
    governor of Massachusetts, was by some counts the most popular
    governor in America. In 2022, he recorded a stunning 74 percent
    approval rating.

    All of these politicians, though, suffer from the same vulnerability. >>>>> The partisan base can believe theyrCOre weak, that theyrCOre not real >>>>> Democrats or Republicans, mere DINOs or RINOs. But a party shouldnrCOt >>>>> be defined by its most zealous ideologues. Why would a progressive in >>>>> Brooklyn be a more authentic representative of the Democratic Party
    than a moderate in Tennessee? The same analysis applies to
    Republicans. You are not more Republican the more guns you own or the >>>>> more often you go to church rCo that makes you a type of Republican, but >>>>> not the ideal form.

    There are many, many Republicans, for example, who will rejoice if
    Susan Collins loses in Maine. She voted to convict Trump, and which
    real Republican would do that? There should be no such thing as the
    model ideological candidate.

    To quote the Apostle Paul in 1 Corinthians, one body has many parts, >>>>> and rCLthe eye cannot say to the hand, rCyI donrCOt need you!rCO And the head
    cannot say to the feet, rCyI donrCOt need you!rCOrCY The parties need >>>>> ideological diversity. Groupthink is dangerous, no matter where it is >>>>> found.

    IrCOd like to end a rather bleak newsletter with a dash of optimism. As >>>>> the Gallup poll indicates, present trends cannot continue forever. If >>>>> the number of independents continues to grow, and the share of
    partisans continues to shrink, the present system will grow more
    unstable. A diminishing percentage of Americans will not be able to
    hold the same amount of power.

    One-party rule can look imposing, but it is often fragile. It wasnrCOt >>>>> that long ago, for example, when there was a different kind of
    one-party rule in the South, and then it shifted from Democratic to
    Republican. It wasnrCOt that long ago that California was a swing state, >>>>> or that Iowa was briefly part of the Democratic PartyrCOs blue wall. >>>>>
    It might take time rCo far too much time rCo but when the single party >>>>> fails, eventually the dormant second party revives, the logjam breaks >>>>> and the system resets. But until then our one-party politics is
    undermining our two-party system, and our competition is reduced to
    determining which broken party will prevail.

    That's the first decent thing by French that you've ever posted here.

    You mean the first thing you have agreed with. I recommend it to you
    as a lesson in telling both sides. You seem to have very little sense
    of how that might work.

    Ironic. You apparently can't help but denigrating people who don't agree
    with you.

    I denigrate people who appear having trouble with telling both sides.

    You appear to be having a difficult time choosing sides in the burger war.




    As noted he didn't use the word oligarch and he also avoided saying
    uniparty, although both are implied.

    I think a new third party is going to happen one way or the other. That >>>> or maybe civil war.

    There is nothing revolutionary about a 3rd party. Canada has one. It
    does better than such efforts in the US because it does not entirely
    go away, but it remains mostly irrelevant.

    Parliamentary systems are friendlier to third parties.


    Civil war? It is not even apparent, at this point, that himbo will
    retain control of congress after nov 2026.

    Retention of the majority in congress is irrelevant to the likelihood of
    armed conflict. Unless you're saying that the Left will be starting one
    if they're not in control.

    Actually that's probably accurate. Never mind.

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  • From dart200@user7160@newsgrouper.org.invalid to alt.buddha.short.fat.guy on Sat Jun 27 18:24:43 2026
    From Newsgroup: alt.buddha.short.fat.guy

    On 6/27/26 5:55 PM, Dude wrote:
    On 6/26/2026 3:14 PM, Noah Sombrero wrote:
    On Fri, 26 Jun 2026 12:15:47 -0700, Dude <punditster@gmail.com> wrote:

    On 6/25/2026 9:18 PM, Noah Sombrero wrote:
    On Thu, 25 Jun 2026 18:56:10 -0700, Dude <punditster@gmail.com> wrote: >>>>
    On 6/25/2026 9:42 AM, Noah Sombrero wrote:
    On Thu, 25 Jun 2026 08:58:42 -0700, Dude <punditster@gmail.com>
    wrote:

    On 6/24/2026 8:39 PM, dart200 wrote:
    On 6/24/26 7:51 PM, Noah Sombrero wrote:

    NY Times,

    June 24, 2026

    Why does our seemingly competitive two-party system produce so >>>>>>>>> much
    stagnation and corruption?

    because a duopoly isn't competition,

    A top-poster now, eh?

    and because it's actually one club of people: oligarchs

    Yes. I think that's what David French wrote, except he left out >>>>>>> the word
    "oligarchs" - probably because he does not write biased opinions >>>>>>> that
    confuse his readers. Oligarchs are in Russia - there's no parties >>>>>>> - it"s
    an oligarchy.

    Very good point.-a You have actually forfeited any right to call that >>>>>> article propaganda.-a Are you ok with that?

    Nick is the informant that called the article propaganda by inserting >>>>> the word "oligarch" in a top post. I'm not OK with that. YMMV.\

    Tough.-a Mommies are good for consoling such ouchies.

    David said nothing about Russian oligarchs. Why is that?

    Because stars are round and not square?

    Not exactly. Nick said the US could not have consensus governing
    "because it's actually one club of people: oligarchs".

    We don't have oligarchs in the US. Nick trashed you and David. Good work!

    ok dud






    By David French

    ThererCOs a line from a speech that I keep thinking about.

    I wrote about it last month. Shane Massey, the Republican majority >>>>>>>>> leader in the South Carolina Senate, spoke against a Trump- >>>>>>>>> inspired
    plan to redistrict the state.

    rCLI will tell my Republican friends: Republicans are stronger >>>>>>>>> when the
    Democrat Party is vibrant and viable,rCY Massey said. rCLWe are. >>>>>>>>> Competition makes you better, yrCOall.rCY

    IrCOm reminded of a conversation I had many years ago with a >>>>>>>>> friend who
    was then a senior executive at McDonaldrCOs (my favorite
    restaurant).

    (imagine ur favorite restaurant being mcdonalds ?)

    When we spoke it was obvious that McDonaldrCOs had decisively won >>>>>>>>> the
    burger wars, and that its chief competitors, Burger King and >>>>>>>>> WendyrCOs,
    were no longer threats to dislodge Ronald McDonald from the >>>>>>>>> Throne of
    Fries.

    I asked him if there was a sense of satisfaction at the
    company, and
    his response surprised me. rCLI have mixed feelings,rCY he said. >>>>>>>>> rCLWe were
    a great company when the competition was intense.rCY

    The innovation and energy required to stave off a challenger was >>>>>>>>> invigorating and perhaps most crucially, it staved off stagnation. >>>>>>>>>
    So why isnrCOt this happening in American politics? Our nation >>>>>>>>> has two
    parties of near-identical size and power, at least in theory. >>>>>>>>> Control
    of the national government routinely flips back and forth, and >>>>>>>>> even
    when one side wins full control its margins of victory are
    extremely
    narrow.

    And yet, instead of creating innovation and energy, our political >>>>>>>>> competition seems to be yielding stagnation and corruption. I >>>>>>>>> donrCOt
    believe that stagnation and corruption exist equally on both >>>>>>>>> sides of
    the aisle, but itrCOs hard to find anyone who believes the
    Democratic
    Party is healthy and vibrant, especially after two losses to >>>>>>>>> Donald
    Trump.

    Even if the two parties arenrCOt equally corrupt, they do share a >>>>>>>>> different common characteristic: TheyrCOre equally repulsive to the >>>>>>>>> public.

    A Gallup poll in January found that 45 percent of Americans >>>>>>>>> identify
    as independents, a record since Gallup began regular polling in >>>>>>>>> 1988.
    Equal percentages of adults, 27 percent, identify as
    Republicans or as
    Democrats.

    This doesnrCOt mean that neither side can win. When the public is >>>>>>>>> disgusted with the current leadership, it has but one other
    alternative. Many voters are voting against incumbents more than >>>>>>>>> theyrCOre endorsing their challengers.

    If the competition between McDonaldrCOs and Burger King gave us >>>>>>>>> tastier
    fries, somehow the competition between Republicans and
    Democrats is
    giving us rotten politics.

    But what if we donrCOt actually have a competitive two-party system? >>>>>>>>> What if our nation actually has two one-party systems, instead? >>>>>>>>> And if
    the United States has two one-party systems, then that means >>>>>>>>> that each
    way they turn voters are confronted with the arrogance,
    stagnation and
    corruption that almost always disfigures single-party rule.

    The best illustration of this reality is found in state government >>>>>>>>> rCLtrifectas.rCY ThatrCOs the term for a state where one party >>>>>>>>> controls the
    governorrCOs mansion and both houses of the state legislature. As of >>>>>>>>> this month, there are 23 Republican trifectas and 16 Democratic >>>>>>>>> ones.
    That leaves 11 states with divided governments.

    Republicans may govern more states, but Democratic states tend >>>>>>>>> to be
    more populous. As a result, a roughly equal percentage of
    Americans
    live under total red or blue rule. As of January, 39.1 percent of >>>>>>>>> Americans lived in blue trifecta states, and 41.5 percent lived >>>>>>>>> in red
    trifecta states, which means that less than 20 percent of the >>>>>>>>> population lives in a divided state.

    Combine trifecta state control with aggressive partisan
    gerrymanders,
    and you have exactly the situation in Congress that my
    colleague Tom
    Edsall described this week: rCLAn overwhelming majority of House >>>>>>>>> members
    run in districts that are safe in the general election, where >>>>>>>>> the only
    threat to an incumbent is from a more ideologically extreme >>>>>>>>> challenger
    in the primary.rCY

    Another way of putting it is that the other side is so weak in >>>>>>>>> so many
    states and congressional districts that politicians can build >>>>>>>>> entire
    careers without having to appeal to voters on the other side of >>>>>>>>> the
    aisle.

    For example, even in a year of remarkable public discontent, in >>>>>>>>> which
    the House may well change hands, the vast majority of members of >>>>>>>>> Congress are completely safe. The Cook Political Report lists 186 >>>>>>>>> districts as solid Republican and 182 districts as solid Democrat. >>>>>>>>> There are only 18 tossup races. If you add in the 20 races that >>>>>>>>> merely
    lean in one direction or the other, that gives you a grand
    total of 38
    competitive races in a 435-member House of Representatives.

    As a result, one-party politicians are often born in the partiesrCO >>>>>>>>> bases and inept at reaching anyone even a few inches to their >>>>>>>>> ideological right or left. In fact, the very effort to reach >>>>>>>>> out to
    the opposition is usually interpreted as weakness, a misguided >>>>>>>>> compromise against an uncompromising foe.

    The art of compromise vanishes before our eyes. After all,
    generations
    of politicians now come from the roughly 80 percent of the country >>>>>>>>> where compromise is almost always unnecessary. Compromises are >>>>>>>>> internal only, as the party negotiates with itself. The opposition >>>>>>>>> might as well not exist.

    The partisan majority in a single-party state will often
    radicalize.
    As IrCOve explained before, the law of group polarization
    suggests that
    when like-minded people deliberate, they tend to become more >>>>>>>>> extreme.
    Red bubbles get redder, Blue bubbles get bluer.

    ItrCOs not just that the two sides separate ideologically. They also >>>>>>>>> develop very different political cultures rCo to the extent that >>>>>>>>> each
    side is completely convinced that the other side is just, well, >>>>>>>>> weird.
    Our nation is full of radicalized people who donrCOt fully
    understand
    that theyrCOre radical because everyone they know agrees with >>>>>>>>> everything
    they say.

    IrCOve heard Republicans and Democrats use exactly the same rCLStar >>>>>>>>> WarsrCY
    reference to describe the other side. TheyrCOll say the other siderCOs
    convention, for example, is like the Mos Eisley Cantina, the >>>>>>>>> bar in
    rCLStar WarsrCY filled with bizarre creatures from across the galaxy. >>>>>>>>>
    Compounding the problem, the sheer size of the red and blue >>>>>>>>> trifectas
    mean that they define the nature of the respective parties, not >>>>>>>>> swing-state politicians rCo even though swing-state politicians are >>>>>>>>> indispensable to party control. The single-party partisans tell us >>>>>>>>> what it means to be a rCLrealrCY Republican or a rCLrealrCY Democrat >>>>>>>>> and often
    despise the rare politicians from their own party who can win on >>>>>>>>> hostile ground. TheyrCOre the squishes, after all.

    Politics is always vulnerable to corruption, but single-party >>>>>>>>> rule can
    be a virtual petri dish for favoritism and graft. We all know that >>>>>>>>> institutions tend to be terrible at policing themselves, and >>>>>>>>> when one
    party possesses complete control, it is rarely as vigilant at >>>>>>>>> punishing its own as it is at pummeling the other side.

    Even swing states arenrCOt immune from the maladies of one-party >>>>>>>>> rule.
    The states themselves are often carved up into one-party enclaves. >>>>>>>>>
    President Trump is perhaps the ultimate example of what one- >>>>>>>>> party rule
    in a two-party nation can produce. While he governs for himself >>>>>>>>> (as
    many one-party politicians do), herCOs also vicious and vengeful >>>>>>>>> to the
    other side, and so long as he keeps attacking the hated Democratic >>>>>>>>> foe, his party will gladly cover for his corruption and graft. >>>>>>>>>
    But if the Democrats challenge Trump with the products of their >>>>>>>>> own
    one-party rule, with a candidate who canrCOt even begin to speak the >>>>>>>>> language of the swing voter, much less the language of the
    disaffected
    Republican, then werCOre setting ourselves up for yet another >>>>>>>>> lurch back
    to the competing extreme.

    There is no easy way for Americans to change this dynamic. But >>>>>>>>> perhaps
    rCo just perhaps rCo we can start by turning to those politicians >>>>>>>>> whorCOve
    proven that theyrCOre culturally and politically bilingual. They >>>>>>>>> can win
    on hostile (or purple) ground. One can think of Andy Beshear, the >>>>>>>>> governor of Kentucky, or Josh Shapiro, the governor of
    Pennsylvania.
    On the Republican side, I can still remember when Charlie
    Baker, as
    governor of Massachusetts, was by some counts the most popular >>>>>>>>> governor in America. In 2022, he recorded a stunning 74 percent >>>>>>>>> approval rating.

    All of these politicians, though, suffer from the same
    vulnerability.
    The partisan base can believe theyrCOre weak, that theyrCOre not real >>>>>>>>> Democrats or Republicans, mere DINOs or RINOs. But a party
    shouldnrCOt
    be defined by its most zealous ideologues. Why would a
    progressive in
    Brooklyn be a more authentic representative of the Democratic >>>>>>>>> Party
    than a moderate in Tennessee? The same analysis applies to
    Republicans. You are not more Republican the more guns you own >>>>>>>>> or the
    more often you go to church rCo that makes you a type of
    Republican, but
    not the ideal form.

    There are many, many Republicans, for example, who will rejoice if >>>>>>>>> Susan Collins loses in Maine. She voted to convict Trump, and >>>>>>>>> which
    real Republican would do that? There should be no such thing as >>>>>>>>> the
    model ideological candidate.

    To quote the Apostle Paul in 1 Corinthians, one body has many >>>>>>>>> parts,
    and rCLthe eye cannot say to the hand, rCyI donrCOt need you!rCO And >>>>>>>>> the head
    cannot say to the feet, rCyI donrCOt need you!rCOrCY The parties need >>>>>>>>> ideological diversity. Groupthink is dangerous, no matter where >>>>>>>>> it is
    found.

    IrCOd like to end a rather bleak newsletter with a dash of
    optimism. As
    the Gallup poll indicates, present trends cannot continue
    forever. If
    the number of independents continues to grow, and the share of >>>>>>>>> partisans continues to shrink, the present system will grow more >>>>>>>>> unstable. A diminishing percentage of Americans will not be >>>>>>>>> able to
    hold the same amount of power.

    One-party rule can look imposing, but it is often fragile. It >>>>>>>>> wasnrCOt
    that long ago, for example, when there was a different kind of >>>>>>>>> one-party rule in the South, and then it shifted from
    Democratic to
    Republican. It wasnrCOt that long ago that California was a swing >>>>>>>>> state,
    or that Iowa was briefly part of the Democratic PartyrCOs blue wall. >>>>>>>>>
    It might take time rCo far too much time rCo but when the single party
    fails, eventually the dormant second party revives, the logjam >>>>>>>>> breaks
    and the system resets. But until then our one-party politics is >>>>>>>>> undermining our two-party system, and our competition is
    reduced to
    determining which broken party will prevail.

    dissolve the senate, it was just a needless check on actual
    democracy

    reform the executive presidency into an executive council (5
    reps from 3
    parties: 2,2,1) requiring consensus decision making where each >>>>>>>> can vote
    pass/neg/block - majority to pass, no blocking votes


    --
    hi, i'm nick!
    let's end war EfOa

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  • From Dude@punditster@gmail.com to alt.buddha.short.fat.guy on Mon Jun 29 22:19:59 2026
    From Newsgroup: alt.buddha.short.fat.guy

    On 6/27/2026 5:59 PM, Dude wrote:
    On 6/26/2026 3:15 PM, Noah Sombrero wrote:
    On Fri, 26 Jun 2026 13:51:00 -0400, Wilson <Wilson@nowhere.invalid>
    wrote:

    On 6/26/2026 1:20 PM, Noah Sombrero wrote:
    On Fri, 26 Jun 2026 12:30:57 -0400, Wilson <Wilson@nowhere.invalid>
    wrote:

    On 6/24/2026 10:51 PM, Noah Sombrero wrote:

    NY Times,

    June 24, 2026

    Why does our seemingly competitive two-party system produce so much >>>>>> stagnation and corruption?

    By David French

    ThererCOs a line from a speech that I keep thinking about.

    I wrote about it last month. Shane Massey, the Republican majority >>>>>> leader in the South Carolina Senate, spoke against a Trump-inspired >>>>>> plan to redistrict the state.

    rCLI will tell my Republican friends: Republicans are stronger when the >>>>>> Democrat Party is vibrant and viable,rCY Massey said. rCLWe are.
    Competition makes you better, yrCOall.rCY

    IrCOm reminded of a conversation I had many years ago with a friend who >>>>>> was then a senior executive at McDonaldrCOs (my favorite restaurant). >>>>>> When we spoke it was obvious that McDonaldrCOs had decisively won the >>>>>> burger wars, and that its chief competitors, Burger King and WendyrCOs, >>>>>> were no longer threats to dislodge Ronald McDonald from the Throne of >>>>>> Fries.

    I asked him if there was a sense of satisfaction at the company, and >>>>>> his response surprised me. rCLI have mixed feelings,rCY he said. rCLWe were
    a great company when the competition was intense.rCY

    The innovation and energy required to stave off a challenger was
    invigorating and perhaps most crucially, it staved off stagnation. >>>>>>
    So why isnrCOt this happening in American politics? Our nation has two >>>>>> parties of near-identical size and power, at least in theory. Control >>>>>> of the national government routinely flips back and forth, and even >>>>>> when one side wins full control its margins of victory are extremely >>>>>> narrow.

    And yet, instead of creating innovation and energy, our political
    competition seems to be yielding stagnation and corruption. I donrCOt >>>>>> believe that stagnation and corruption exist equally on both sides of >>>>>> the aisle, but itrCOs hard to find anyone who believes the Democratic >>>>>> Party is healthy and vibrant, especially after two losses to Donald >>>>>> Trump.

    Even if the two parties arenrCOt equally corrupt, they do share a
    different common characteristic: TheyrCOre equally repulsive to the >>>>>> public.

    A Gallup poll in January found that 45 percent of Americans identify >>>>>> as independents, a record since Gallup began regular polling in 1988. >>>>>> Equal percentages of adults, 27 percent, identify as Republicans
    or as
    Democrats.

    This doesnrCOt mean that neither side can win. When the public is
    disgusted with the current leadership, it has but one other
    alternative. Many voters are voting against incumbents more than
    theyrCOre endorsing their challengers.

    If the competition between McDonaldrCOs and Burger King gave us tastier >>>>>> fries, somehow the competition between Republicans and Democrats is >>>>>> giving us rotten politics.

    But what if we donrCOt actually have a competitive two-party system? >>>>>> What if our nation actually has two one-party systems, instead?
    And if
    the United States has two one-party systems, then that means that >>>>>> each
    way they turn voters are confronted with the arrogance, stagnation >>>>>> and
    corruption that almost always disfigures single-party rule.

    The best illustration of this reality is found in state government >>>>>> rCLtrifectas.rCY ThatrCOs the term for a state where one party controls the
    governorrCOs mansion and both houses of the state legislature. As of >>>>>> this month, there are 23 Republican trifectas and 16 Democratic ones. >>>>>> That leaves 11 states with divided governments.

    Republicans may govern more states, but Democratic states tend to be >>>>>> more populous. As a result, a roughly equal percentage of Americans >>>>>> live under total red or blue rule. As of January, 39.1 percent of
    Americans lived in blue trifecta states, and 41.5 percent lived in >>>>>> red
    trifecta states, which means that less than 20 percent of the
    population lives in a divided state.

    Combine trifecta state control with aggressive partisan gerrymanders, >>>>>> and you have exactly the situation in Congress that my colleague Tom >>>>>> Edsall described this week: rCLAn overwhelming majority of House
    members
    run in districts that are safe in the general election, where the >>>>>> only
    threat to an incumbent is from a more ideologically extreme
    challenger
    in the primary.rCY

    Another way of putting it is that the other side is so weak in so >>>>>> many
    states and congressional districts that politicians can build entire >>>>>> careers without having to appeal to voters on the other side of the >>>>>> aisle.

    For example, even in a year of remarkable public discontent, in which >>>>>> the House may well change hands, the vast majority of members of
    Congress are completely safe. The Cook Political Report lists 186
    districts as solid Republican and 182 districts as solid Democrat. >>>>>> There are only 18 tossup races. If you add in the 20 races that
    merely
    lean in one direction or the other, that gives you a grand total
    of 38
    competitive races in a 435-member House of Representatives.

    As a result, one-party politicians are often born in the partiesrCO >>>>>> bases and inept at reaching anyone even a few inches to their
    ideological right or left. In fact, the very effort to reach out to >>>>>> the opposition is usually interpreted as weakness, a misguided
    compromise against an uncompromising foe.

    The art of compromise vanishes before our eyes. After all,
    generations
    of politicians now come from the roughly 80 percent of the country >>>>>> where compromise is almost always unnecessary. Compromises are
    internal only, as the party negotiates with itself. The opposition >>>>>> might as well not exist.

    The partisan majority in a single-party state will often radicalize. >>>>>> As IrCOve explained before, the law of group polarization suggests that >>>>>> when like-minded people deliberate, they tend to become more extreme. >>>>>> Red bubbles get redder, Blue bubbles get bluer.

    ItrCOs not just that the two sides separate ideologically. They also >>>>>> develop very different political cultures rCo to the extent that each >>>>>> side is completely convinced that the other side is just, well,
    weird.
    Our nation is full of radicalized people who donrCOt fully understand >>>>>> that theyrCOre radical because everyone they know agrees with
    everything
    they say.

    IrCOve heard Republicans and Democrats use exactly the same rCLStar WarsrCY
    reference to describe the other side. TheyrCOll say the other siderCOs >>>>>> convention, for example, is like the Mos Eisley Cantina, the bar in >>>>>> rCLStar WarsrCY filled with bizarre creatures from across the galaxy. >>>>>>
    Compounding the problem, the sheer size of the red and blue trifectas >>>>>> mean that they define the nature of the respective parties, not
    swing-state politicians rCo even though swing-state politicians are >>>>>> indispensable to party control. The single-party partisans tell us >>>>>> what it means to be a rCLrealrCY Republican or a rCLrealrCY Democrat and
    often
    despise the rare politicians from their own party who can win on
    hostile ground. TheyrCOre the squishes, after all.

    Politics is always vulnerable to corruption, but single-party rule >>>>>> can
    be a virtual petri dish for favoritism and graft. We all know that >>>>>> institutions tend to be terrible at policing themselves, and when one >>>>>> party possesses complete control, it is rarely as vigilant at
    punishing its own as it is at pummeling the other side.

    Even swing states arenrCOt immune from the maladies of one-party rule. >>>>>> The states themselves are often carved up into one-party enclaves. >>>>>>
    President Trump is perhaps the ultimate example of what one-party >>>>>> rule
    in a two-party nation can produce. While he governs for himself (as >>>>>> many one-party politicians do), herCOs also vicious and vengeful to the >>>>>> other side, and so long as he keeps attacking the hated Democratic >>>>>> foe, his party will gladly cover for his corruption and graft.

    But if the Democrats challenge Trump with the products of their own >>>>>> one-party rule, with a candidate who canrCOt even begin to speak the >>>>>> language of the swing voter, much less the language of the
    disaffected
    Republican, then werCOre setting ourselves up for yet another lurch >>>>>> back
    to the competing extreme.

    There is no easy way for Americans to change this dynamic. But
    perhaps
    rCo just perhaps rCo we can start by turning to those politicians whorCOve
    proven that theyrCOre culturally and politically bilingual. They can >>>>>> win
    on hostile (or purple) ground. One can think of Andy Beshear, the
    governor of Kentucky, or Josh Shapiro, the governor of Pennsylvania. >>>>>> On the Republican side, I can still remember when Charlie Baker, as >>>>>> governor of Massachusetts, was by some counts the most popular
    governor in America. In 2022, he recorded a stunning 74 percent
    approval rating.

    All of these politicians, though, suffer from the same vulnerability. >>>>>> The partisan base can believe theyrCOre weak, that theyrCOre not real >>>>>> Democrats or Republicans, mere DINOs or RINOs. But a party shouldnrCOt >>>>>> be defined by its most zealous ideologues. Why would a progressive in >>>>>> Brooklyn be a more authentic representative of the Democratic Party >>>>>> than a moderate in Tennessee? The same analysis applies to
    Republicans. You are not more Republican the more guns you own or the >>>>>> more often you go to church rCo that makes you a type of Republican, >>>>>> but
    not the ideal form.

    There are many, many Republicans, for example, who will rejoice if >>>>>> Susan Collins loses in Maine. She voted to convict Trump, and which >>>>>> real Republican would do that? There should be no such thing as the >>>>>> model ideological candidate.

    To quote the Apostle Paul in 1 Corinthians, one body has many parts, >>>>>> and rCLthe eye cannot say to the hand, rCyI donrCOt need you!rCO And the head
    cannot say to the feet, rCyI donrCOt need you!rCOrCY The parties need >>>>>> ideological diversity. Groupthink is dangerous, no matter where it is >>>>>> found.

    IrCOd like to end a rather bleak newsletter with a dash of optimism. As >>>>>> the Gallup poll indicates, present trends cannot continue forever. If >>>>>> the number of independents continues to grow, and the share of
    partisans continues to shrink, the present system will grow more
    unstable. A diminishing percentage of Americans will not be able to >>>>>> hold the same amount of power.

    One-party rule can look imposing, but it is often fragile. It wasnrCOt >>>>>> that long ago, for example, when there was a different kind of
    one-party rule in the South, and then it shifted from Democratic to >>>>>> Republican. It wasnrCOt that long ago that California was a swing >>>>>> state,
    or that Iowa was briefly part of the Democratic PartyrCOs blue wall. >>>>>>
    It might take time rCo far too much time rCo but when the single party >>>>>> fails, eventually the dormant second party revives, the logjam breaks >>>>>> and the system resets. But until then our one-party politics is
    undermining our two-party system, and our competition is reduced to >>>>>> determining which broken party will prevail.

    That's the first decent thing by French that you've ever posted here. >>>>
    You mean the first thing you have agreed with.-a I recommend it to you >>>> as a lesson in telling both sides.-a You seem to have very little sense >>>> of how that might work.

    Ironic. You apparently can't help but denigrating people who don't agree >>> with you.

    I denigrate people who appear having trouble with telling both sides.

    You appear to be having a difficult time choosing sides in the burger war.

    Nick claimed over on alt.messianic that Switzerland was a good example
    of consensus governing because of the liberal free market. There's no
    war there, so no need for a lot of guns. YMMV.

    What do they do with all those knives anyway?

    Just saying.




    As noted he didn't use the word oligarch and he also avoided saying
    uniparty, although both are implied.

    I think a new third party is going to happen one way or the other.
    That
    or maybe civil war.

    There is nothing revolutionary about a 3rd party.-a Canada has one.-a It >>>> does better than such efforts in the US because it does not entirely
    go away, but it remains mostly irrelevant.

    Parliamentary systems are friendlier to third parties.


    Civil war?-a It is not even apparent, at this point, that himbo will
    retain control of congress after nov 2026.

    Retention of the majority in congress is irrelevant to the likelihood of >>> armed conflict. Unless you're saying that the Left will be starting one
    if they're not in control.

    Actually that's probably accurate. Never mind.


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