Real Time Mat 15/26
https://youtu.be/BHOJCbRJu28?si=Vrol9ptbvlLK2Kka
Real Time Mat 15/26
https://youtu.be/BHOJCbRJu28?si=Vrol9ptbvlLK2Kka
On 16/05/2026 14:08, Tara wrote:
Real Time Mat 15/26
https://youtu.be/BHOJCbRJu28?si=Vrol9ptbvlLK2Kka
That's great but, unfortunately, the people who
need to watch it through to the end won't. Do though,
in spite of it being skewered in the vid, batten down
the hatches for an incoming tsumani of "whataboutery."
On Sat, 16 May 2026 13:08:49 -0000 (UTC), Tara <tsm@fastmail.ca>
wrote:
Real Time Mat 15/26
https://youtu.be/BHOJCbRJu28?si=Vrol9ptbvlLK2Kka
Bill is great as always.
I say the extremes don't define the conversation.
Did you notice that he tells both sides of the story?
So not propaganda.
Bill deserves to be heard.
On 16/05/2026 14:08, Tara wrote:
Real Time Mat 15/26
https://youtu.be/BHOJCbRJu28?si=Vrol9ptbvlLK2Kka
That's great but, unfortunately, the people who
need to watch it through to the end won't. Do though,
in spite of it being skewered in the vid, batten down
the hatches for an incoming tsumani of "whataboutery."
On 5/16/2026 6:30 AM, Noah Sombrero wrote:
On Sat, 16 May 2026 13:08:49 -0000 (UTC), Tara <tsm@fastmail.ca>Bill Maher was born to a Jewish mother and an Irish-Catholic father. He
wrote:
Real Time Mat 15/26
https://youtu.be/BHOJCbRJu28?si=Vrol9ptbvlLK2Kka
Bill is great as always.
was raised in the Catholic faith but did not discover his Jewish
heritage until he was a teenager. Today, he identifies as an atheist and >does not practice either religion
I say the extremes don't define the conversation.From a Buddhist perspective, you should hate nobody. Is that the
baseline, or something else puts people over the edge?
Did you notice that he tells both sides of the story?
So, I've noticed you and Nick have not told both sides of the story,
only opinions. You guys don't seem to be big on history.
Two extremists, one at each end: Noah thinks it's Biblical prophecy;
Nick thinks it's genocide against the Arabs (refugees who went from 700
to a million population since 1947) and that Israel should be divided up
so everyone has at least 1 hectare.
So not propaganda.
And you would be knowing this how?
Bill deserves to be heard.
What did Bill say? Can you sum it up in just a few words. Thanks.
Real Time Mat 15/26
https://youtu.be/BHOJCbRJu28?si=Vrol9ptbvlLK2Kka
On 5/16/2026 6:08 AM, Tara wrote:
Real Time Mat 15/26It's good to hear or read both sides of any debate. Not sure if stand up >comics can pull it off. Out of the box it's already offensive.
https://youtu.be/BHOJCbRJu28?si=Vrol9ptbvlLK2Kka
There's no "Jews" - if so, they should be able to be defined. All Jewish >individuals are different.
The phrase "No Jews" is widely classified as both an offensive term and
a form of discriminatory hate speech.
Historically, it refers to exclusionary policies (such as "No Jews or
Dogs" signs) used to bar Jewish people from accessing housing,
employment, and public accommodations.When used today to exclude or
target the group, it functions as an ethnic slur and a manifestation of >antisemitism. YMMV.
While "Jew" is a noun, "Jewish" is the adjective.
Note: Some may find the noun "Jew" used to describe someone offensive in >certain contexts, making the phrase "Jewish person" generally safer,
unless you're Nick, then you just make up a new derogatory. Who care?
On 5/16/2026 6:33 AM, Julian wrote:
On 16/05/2026 14:08, Tara wrote:
Real Time Mat 15/26
https://youtu.be/BHOJCbRJu28?si=Vrol9ptbvlLK2Kka
That's great but, unfortunately, the people who
need to watch it through to the end won't. Do though,
in spite of it being skewered in the vid, batten down
the hatches for an incoming tsumani of "whataboutery."
Apparently, the real Palestinian refugees are at least 75 years old now.
"Their number is about 10,000rCo15,000. And thererCOs no Palestine for them to return to. It's Israel now, and no one is waiting for them here. This issue is closed.
History:
To better understand the situation, we should review the history behind
the emergence of the so-called Palestinian refugees.
During the 1948 Palestine War, which was initiated by five Arab states aiming to destroy Israel, around 700,000 Palestinian Arabs fled their
homes. In 1949, the newly founded UN agency UNRWA defined them as Palestinian refugees, and declared that their patrilineal descendants
would also inherit this status.
This made them the only group of refugees in the world whose status is legally inherited.
As a result, being a Palestinian refugee essentially became a family business. UNRWA pays them for being refugees, providing food, housing,
and other services. Instead of solving the refugee problem, this totally corrupt and absolutely ineffective body has multiplied the number of refugees from 700,000 to over 6 million. Quite a rCLsuccess.rCY The more refugees there are, the more funding and jobs for UNRWA."
- V. Schumacher, Israel, Quora
Real Time Mat 15/26
https://youtu.be/BHOJCbRJu28?si=Vrol9ptbvlLK2Kka
On 16/05/2026 14:08, Tara wrote:
Real Time Mat 15/26
https://youtu.be/BHOJCbRJu28?si=Vrol9ptbvlLK2Kka
That's great but, unfortunately, the people who
need to watch it through to the end won't. Do though,
in spite of it being skewered in the vid, batten down
the hatches for an incoming tsumani of "whataboutery."
On 5/16/26 6:33 AM, Julian wrote:
On 16/05/2026 14:08, Tara wrote:
Real Time Mat 15/26
https://youtu.be/BHOJCbRJu28?si=Vrol9ptbvlLK2Kka
That's great but, unfortunately, the people who
need to watch it through to the end won't. Do though,
in spite of it being skewered in the vid, batten down
the hatches for an incoming tsumani of "whataboutery."
there's literally no content in that for me
he tries to claim other countries/situations are worse... but nothing inYou 21st century kids don't know how lucky you are.
the 21st century is actually worse than the middle east wars
On 16/05/2026 18:05, dart200 wrote:
On 5/16/26 6:33 AM, Julian wrote:
On 16/05/2026 14:08, Tara wrote:
Real Time Mat 15/26
https://youtu.be/BHOJCbRJu28?si=Vrol9ptbvlLK2Kka
That's great but, unfortunately, the people who
need to watch it through to the end won't. Do though,
in spite of it being skewered in the vid, batten down
the hatches for an incoming tsumani of "whataboutery."
there's literally no content in that for me
And yet...
You 21st century kids don't know how lucky you are.
he tries to claim other countries/situations are worse... but nothing
in the 21st century is actually worse than the middle east wars
On 5/16/26 10:18 AM, Julian wrote:
On 16/05/2026 18:05, dart200 wrote:
On 5/16/26 6:33 AM, Julian wrote:
On 16/05/2026 14:08, Tara wrote:
Real Time Mat 15/26
https://youtu.be/BHOJCbRJu28?si=Vrol9ptbvlLK2Kka
That's great but, unfortunately, the people who
need to watch it through to the end won't. Do though,
in spite of it being skewered in the vid, batten down
the hatches for an incoming tsumani of "whataboutery."
there's literally no content in that for me
And yet...
You 21st century kids don't know how lucky you are.
he tries to claim other countries/situations are worse... but nothing
in the 21st century is actually worse than the middle east wars
that doesn't justify what *is* still going on,
or defend the people
causing them: namely zionists and muzzies
On 5/16/26 6:33 AM, Julian wrote:
On 16/05/2026 14:08, Tara wrote:
Real Time Mat 15/26
https://youtu.be/BHOJCbRJu28?si=Vrol9ptbvlLK2Kka
That's great but, unfortunately, the people who
need to watch it through to the end won't. Do though,
in spite of it being skewered in the vid, batten down
the hatches for an incoming tsumani of "whataboutery."
there's literally no content in that for me
he tries to claim other countries/situations are worse... but nothing in
the 21st century is actually worse than the middle east wars
he also just dismisses the fact we have this absurd bipartisan support between the most unlikely people as just inexplicable hatred without any meaningful acknowledgement of root causes
what huge miss from bill. he's not my favorite, but he's not usually
that poor of a commenter
On Sat, 16 May 2026 08:55:25 -0700, Dude <punditster@gmail.com> wrote:
On 5/16/2026 6:08 AM, Tara wrote:
Real Time Mat 15/26It's good to hear or read both sides of any debate. Not sure if stand up
https://youtu.be/BHOJCbRJu28?si=Vrol9ptbvlLK2Kka
comics can pull it off. Out of the box it's already offensive.
There's no "Jews" - if so, they should be able to be defined. All Jewish
individuals are different.
The phrase "No Jews" is widely classified as both an offensive term and
a form of discriminatory hate speech.
Historically, it refers to exclusionary policies (such as "No Jews or
Dogs" signs) used to bar Jewish people from accessing housing,
employment, and public accommodations.When used today to exclude or
target the group, it functions as an ethnic slur and a manifestation of
antisemitism. YMMV.
While "Jew" is a noun, "Jewish" is the adjective.
Note: Some may find the noun "Jew" used to describe someone offensive in
certain contexts, making the phrase "Jewish person" generally safer,
unless you're Nick, then you just make up a new derogatory. Who care?
There you have it, Bill, no matter what, there will be some who can
denigrate you. Even you.
On 5/16/26 6:08 AM, Tara wrote:
Real Time Mat 15/26
https://youtu.be/BHOJCbRJu28?si=Vrol9ptbvlLK2Kka
the middle east is the most active warzone of the 21st century, by
deaths per capita (direct and indirect) ... and isn'treal is smack dab
at the center of it
On Sat, 16 May 2026 08:42:37 -0700, Dude <punditster@gmail.com> wrote:
On 5/16/2026 6:30 AM, Noah Sombrero wrote:
On Sat, 16 May 2026 13:08:49 -0000 (UTC), Tara <tsm@fastmail.ca>Bill Maher was born to a Jewish mother and an Irish-Catholic father. He
wrote:
Real Time Mat 15/26
https://youtu.be/BHOJCbRJu28?si=Vrol9ptbvlLK2Kka
Bill is great as always.
was raised in the Catholic faith but did not discover his Jewish
heritage until he was a teenager. Today, he identifies as an atheist and
does not practice either religion
From a Buddhist perspective, you should hate nobody. Is that the
I say the extremes don't define the conversation.
baseline, or something else puts people over the edge?
So, I've noticed you and Nick have not told both sides of the story,Did you notice that he tells both sides of the story?
only opinions. You guys don't seem to be big on history.
And we certainly do not recognize you as any sort of expert on
anything at all.
Two extremists, one at each end: Noah thinks it's Biblical prophecy;
Nick thinks it's genocide against the Arabs (refugees who went from 700
to a million population since 1947) and that Israel should be divided up
so everyone has at least 1 hectare.
And you would be knowing this how?
So not propaganda.
I told you how.
What did Bill say? Can you sum it up in just a few words. Thanks.
Bill deserves to be heard.
The interesting thing for me would be if you listened to what he said
and could tell me where he tells of hate for palestinians and their persecution. It is easy to miss, so many who don't want to hear that
do not.
On 5/16/2026 8:57 AM, Noah Sombrero wrote:
On Sat, 16 May 2026 08:55:25 -0700, Dude <punditster@gmail.com> wrote:Standup comics should maybe stick to comedy to make people laugh. YMMV.
On 5/16/2026 6:08 AM, Tara wrote:
Real Time Mat 15/26It's good to hear or read both sides of any debate. Not sure if stand up >>> comics can pull it off. Out of the box it's already offensive.
https://youtu.be/BHOJCbRJu28?si=Vrol9ptbvlLK2Kka
There's no "Jews" - if so, they should be able to be defined. All Jewish >>> individuals are different.
The phrase "No Jews" is widely classified as both an offensive term and
a form of discriminatory hate speech.
Historically, it refers to exclusionary policies (such as "No Jews or
Dogs" signs) used to bar Jewish people from accessing housing,
employment, and public accommodations.When used today to exclude or
target the group, it functions as an ethnic slur and a manifestation of
antisemitism. YMMV.
While "Jew" is a noun, "Jewish" is the adjective.
Note: Some may find the noun "Jew" used to describe someone offensive in >>> certain contexts, making the phrase "Jewish person" generally safer,
unless you're Nick, then you just make up a new derogatory. Who care?
There you have it, Bill, no matter what, there will be some who can
denigrate you. Even you.
On 5/16/2026 8:50 AM, Noah Sombrero wrote:
On Sat, 16 May 2026 08:42:37 -0700, Dude <punditster@gmail.com> wrote:Bill Maher noted that the political far-left and far-right agree on
On 5/16/2026 6:30 AM, Noah Sombrero wrote:
On Sat, 16 May 2026 13:08:49 -0000 (UTC), Tara <tsm@fastmail.ca>Bill Maher was born to a Jewish mother and an Irish-Catholic father. He
wrote:
Real Time Mat 15/26
https://youtu.be/BHOJCbRJu28?si=Vrol9ptbvlLK2Kka
Bill is great as always.
was raised in the Catholic faith but did not discover his Jewish
heritage until he was a teenager. Today, he identifies as an atheist and >>> does not practice either religion
From a Buddhist perspective, you should hate nobody. Is that the
I say the extremes don't define the conversation.
baseline, or something else puts people over the edge?
So, I've noticed you and Nick have not told both sides of the story,Did you notice that he tells both sides of the story?
only opinions. You guys don't seem to be big on history.
And we certainly do not recognize you as any sort of expert on
anything at all.
Two extremists, one at each end: Noah thinks it's Biblical prophecy;
Nick thinks it's genocide against the Arabs (refugees who went from 700
to a million population since 1947) and that Israel should be divided up >>> so everyone has at least 1 hectare.
And you would be knowing this how?
So not propaganda.
I told you how.
What did Bill say? Can you sum it up in just a few words. Thanks.
Bill deserves to be heard.
The interesting thing for me would be if you listened to what he said
and could tell me where he tells of hate for palestinians and their
persecution. It is easy to miss, so many who don't want to hear that
do not.
almost nothing, except for their animosity toward Israel and Jewish people.
He sharply criticized both "woke" campus progressives and right-wing
figures for using rhetoric that stokes antisemitism Like you and Nick.
On May 16, 2026 at 3:13:17rC>PM EDT, "Dude" <punditster@gmail.com> wrote:
On 5/16/2026 8:50 AM, Noah Sombrero wrote:
On Sat, 16 May 2026 08:42:37 -0700, Dude <punditster@gmail.com> wrote:Bill Maher noted that the political far-left and far-right agree on
On 5/16/2026 6:30 AM, Noah Sombrero wrote:
On Sat, 16 May 2026 13:08:49 -0000 (UTC), Tara <tsm@fastmail.ca>Bill Maher was born to a Jewish mother and an Irish-Catholic father. He >>>> was raised in the Catholic faith but did not discover his Jewish
wrote:
Real Time Mat 15/26
https://youtu.be/BHOJCbRJu28?si=Vrol9ptbvlLK2Kka
Bill is great as always.
heritage until he was a teenager. Today, he identifies as an atheist and >>>> does not practice either religion
From a Buddhist perspective, you should hate nobody. Is that the
I say the extremes don't define the conversation.
baseline, or something else puts people over the edge?
So, I've noticed you and Nick have not told both sides of the story,Did you notice that he tells both sides of the story?
only opinions. You guys don't seem to be big on history.
And we certainly do not recognize you as any sort of expert on
anything at all.
Two extremists, one at each end: Noah thinks it's Biblical prophecy;
Nick thinks it's genocide against the Arabs (refugees who went from 700 >>>> to a million population since 1947) and that Israel should be divided up >>>> so everyone has at least 1 hectare.
And you would be knowing this how?
So not propaganda.
I told you how.
What did Bill say? Can you sum it up in just a few words. Thanks.
Bill deserves to be heard.
The interesting thing for me would be if you listened to what he said
and could tell me where he tells of hate for palestinians and their
persecution. It is easy to miss, so many who don't want to hear that
do not.
almost nothing, except for their animosity toward Israel and Jewish people. >>
He sharply criticized both "woke" campus progressives and right-wing
figures for using rhetoric that stokes antisemitism Like you and Nick.
He also noted that you can wear a keffiyeh anywhere but Jews are now afraid to
wear a Star of David pendant.
On May 16, 2026 at 2:44:27rC>PM EDT, "Dude" <punditster@gmail.com> wrote:
On 5/16/2026 8:57 AM, Noah Sombrero wrote:
On Sat, 16 May 2026 08:55:25 -0700, Dude <punditster@gmail.com> wrote:Standup comics should maybe stick to comedy to make people laugh. YMMV.
On 5/16/2026 6:08 AM, Tara wrote:
Real Time Mat 15/26It's good to hear or read both sides of any debate. Not sure if stand up >>>> comics can pull it off. Out of the box it's already offensive.
https://youtu.be/BHOJCbRJu28?si=Vrol9ptbvlLK2Kka
There's no "Jews" - if so, they should be able to be defined. All Jewish >>>> individuals are different.
The phrase "No Jews" is widely classified as both an offensive term and >>>> a form of discriminatory hate speech.
Historically, it refers to exclusionary policies (such as "No Jews or
Dogs" signs) used to bar Jewish people from accessing housing,
employment, and public accommodations.When used today to exclude or
target the group, it functions as an ethnic slur and a manifestation of >>>> antisemitism. YMMV.
While "Jew" is a noun, "Jewish" is the adjective.
Note: Some may find the noun "Jew" used to describe someone offensive in >>>> certain contexts, making the phrase "Jewish person" generally safer,
unless you're Nick, then you just make up a new derogatory. Who care?
There you have it, Bill, no matter what, there will be some who can
denigrate you. Even you.
If they have a platform, why not use it. Everyone else does.
On May 16, 2026 at 4:17:19rC>PM EDT, "Tara" <tsm@fastmail.ca> wrote:
On May 16, 2026 at 3:13:17rC>PM EDT, "Dude" <punditster@gmail.com> wrote:
On 5/16/2026 8:50 AM, Noah Sombrero wrote:
On Sat, 16 May 2026 08:42:37 -0700, Dude <punditster@gmail.com> wrote: >>>>Bill Maher noted that the political far-left and far-right agree on
On 5/16/2026 6:30 AM, Noah Sombrero wrote:
On Sat, 16 May 2026 13:08:49 -0000 (UTC), Tara <tsm@fastmail.ca>Bill Maher was born to a Jewish mother and an Irish-Catholic father. He >>>>> was raised in the Catholic faith but did not discover his Jewish
wrote:
Real Time Mat 15/26
https://youtu.be/BHOJCbRJu28?si=Vrol9ptbvlLK2Kka
Bill is great as always.
heritage until he was a teenager. Today, he identifies as an atheist and >>>>> does not practice either religion
From a Buddhist perspective, you should hate nobody. Is that the
I say the extremes don't define the conversation.
baseline, or something else puts people over the edge?
So, I've noticed you and Nick have not told both sides of the story, >>>>> only opinions. You guys don't seem to be big on history.Did you notice that he tells both sides of the story?
And we certainly do not recognize you as any sort of expert on
anything at all.
Two extremists, one at each end: Noah thinks it's Biblical prophecy; >>>>> Nick thinks it's genocide against the Arabs (refugees who went from 700 >>>>> to a million population since 1947) and that Israel should be divided up >>>>> so everyone has at least 1 hectare.
And you would be knowing this how?
So not propaganda.
I told you how.
What did Bill say? Can you sum it up in just a few words. Thanks.
Bill deserves to be heard.
The interesting thing for me would be if you listened to what he said
and could tell me where he tells of hate for palestinians and their
persecution. It is easy to miss, so many who don't want to hear that
do not.
almost nothing, except for their animosity toward Israel and Jewish people. >>>
He sharply criticized both "woke" campus progressives and right-wing
figures for using rhetoric that stokes antisemitism Like you and Nick.
He also noted that you can wear a keffiyeh anywhere but Jews are now afraid to
wear a Star of David pendant.
I especially liked when Bill called 'progressives" and left-wing critics of Israel 'brats".
He said:..."if you brats had to spend a week anywhere in the Middle East other
than Israel you would understand what liberalism is."
On 5/16/2026 1:10 PM, Tara wrote:
On May 16, 2026 at 2:44:27rC>PM EDT, "Dude" <punditster@gmail.com> wrote:It's just not funny - politics, sexism, anti-Semitic tropes or
On 5/16/2026 8:57 AM, Noah Sombrero wrote:
On Sat, 16 May 2026 08:55:25 -0700, Dude <punditster@gmail.com> wrote: >>>>Standup comics should maybe stick to comedy to make people laugh. YMMV.
On 5/16/2026 6:08 AM, Tara wrote:There you have it, Bill, no matter what, there will be some who can
Real Time Mat 15/26It's good to hear or read both sides of any debate. Not sure if stand up >>>>> comics can pull it off. Out of the box it's already offensive.
https://youtu.be/BHOJCbRJu28?si=Vrol9ptbvlLK2Kka
There's no "Jews" - if so, they should be able to be defined. All Jewish >>>>> individuals are different.
The phrase "No Jews" is widely classified as both an offensive term and >>>>> a form of discriminatory hate speech.
Historically, it refers to exclusionary policies (such as "No Jews or >>>>> Dogs" signs) used to bar Jewish people from accessing housing,
employment, and public accommodations.When used today to exclude or
target the group, it functions as an ethnic slur and a manifestation of >>>>> antisemitism. YMMV.
While "Jew" is a noun, "Jewish" is the adjective.
Note: Some may find the noun "Jew" used to describe someone offensive in >>>>> certain contexts, making the phrase "Jewish person" generally safer, >>>>> unless you're Nick, then you just make up a new derogatory. Who care? >>>>
denigrate you. Even you.
If they have a platform, why not use it. Everyone else does.
homophobic smears. YMMV.
Comedian Byron Allen appeared on CNN today to discuss replacing Stephen Colbert's late-night slot:
His show, Comics Unleashed, would be a "clean comedy" format. He stated
his approach is simply to "just be funny" rather than tackling politics, stating:
"We donrCOt do anything thatrCOs racist or sexist or anti-Semitic or homophobic. Comedians should just make you laugh."
On May 16, 2026 at 4:42:11rC>PM EDT, "Dude" <punditster@gmail.com> wrote:
On 5/16/2026 1:10 PM, Tara wrote:
On May 16, 2026 at 2:44:27rC>PM EDT, "Dude" <punditster@gmail.com> wrote: >>>It's just not funny - politics, sexism, anti-Semitic tropes or
On 5/16/2026 8:57 AM, Noah Sombrero wrote:If they have a platform, why not use it. Everyone else does.
On Sat, 16 May 2026 08:55:25 -0700, Dude <punditster@gmail.com> wrote: >>>>>Standup comics should maybe stick to comedy to make people laugh. YMMV. >>>
On 5/16/2026 6:08 AM, Tara wrote:There you have it, Bill, no matter what, there will be some who can
Real Time Mat 15/26It's good to hear or read both sides of any debate. Not sure if stand up >>>>>> comics can pull it off. Out of the box it's already offensive.
https://youtu.be/BHOJCbRJu28?si=Vrol9ptbvlLK2Kka
There's no "Jews" - if so, they should be able to be defined. All Jewish >>>>>> individuals are different.
The phrase "No Jews" is widely classified as both an offensive term and >>>>>> a form of discriminatory hate speech.
Historically, it refers to exclusionary policies (such as "No Jews or >>>>>> Dogs" signs) used to bar Jewish people from accessing housing,
employment, and public accommodations.When used today to exclude or >>>>>> target the group, it functions as an ethnic slur and a manifestation of >>>>>> antisemitism. YMMV.
While "Jew" is a noun, "Jewish" is the adjective.
Note: Some may find the noun "Jew" used to describe someone offensive in >>>>>> certain contexts, making the phrase "Jewish person" generally safer, >>>>>> unless you're Nick, then you just make up a new derogatory. Who care? >>>>>
denigrate you. Even you.
homophobic smears. YMMV.
Comedian Byron Allen appeared on CNN today to discuss replacing Stephen
Colbert's late-night slot:
His show, Comics Unleashed, would be a "clean comedy" format. He stated
his approach is simply to "just be funny" rather than tackling politics,
stating:
"We donrCOt do anything thatrCOs racist or sexist or anti-Semitic or
homophobic. Comedians should just make you laugh."
Why not have both (clean and.. ummm... not clean?) and you can choose which one you want to audience for.
On 5/16/2026 8:50 AM, Noah Sombrero wrote:
On Sat, 16 May 2026 08:42:37 -0700, Dude <punditster@gmail.com> wrote:
On 5/16/2026 6:30 AM, Noah Sombrero wrote:
On Sat, 16 May 2026 13:08:49 -0000 (UTC), Tara <tsm@fastmail.ca>Bill Maher was born to a Jewish mother and an Irish-Catholic father. He
wrote:
Real Time Mat 15/26
https://youtu.be/BHOJCbRJu28?si=Vrol9ptbvlLK2Kka
Bill is great as always.
was raised in the Catholic faith but did not discover his Jewish
heritage until he was a teenager. Today, he identifies as an atheist and >>> does not practice either religion
From a Buddhist perspective, you should hate nobody. Is that the
I say the extremes don't define the conversation.
baseline, or something else puts people over the edge?
So, I've noticed you and Nick have not told both sides of the story,Did you notice that he tells both sides of the story?
only opinions. You guys don't seem to be big on history.
And we certainly do not recognize you as any sort of expert on
anything at all.
Two extremists, one at each end: Noah thinks it's Biblical prophecy;
Nick thinks it's genocide against the Arabs (refugees who went from 700
to a million population since 1947) and that Israel should be divided up >>> so everyone has at least 1 hectare.
And you would be knowing this how?
So not propaganda.
I told you how.
What did Bill say? Can you sum it up in just a few words. Thanks.
Bill deserves to be heard.
The interesting thing for me would be if you listened to what he said
and could tell me where he tells of hate for palestinians and their
persecution. It is easy to miss, so many who don't want to hear that
do not.
Bill Maher noted that the political far-left and far-right agree on
almost nothing, except for their animosity toward Israel and Jewish people.
He sharply criticized both "woke" campus progressives and right-wing
figures for using rhetoric that stokes antisemitism Like you and Nick.
On May 16, 2026 at 3:13:17?PM EDT, "Dude" <punditster@gmail.com> wrote:
On 5/16/2026 8:50 AM, Noah Sombrero wrote:
On Sat, 16 May 2026 08:42:37 -0700, Dude <punditster@gmail.com> wrote:Bill Maher noted that the political far-left and far-right agree on
On 5/16/2026 6:30 AM, Noah Sombrero wrote:
On Sat, 16 May 2026 13:08:49 -0000 (UTC), Tara <tsm@fastmail.ca>Bill Maher was born to a Jewish mother and an Irish-Catholic father. He >>>> was raised in the Catholic faith but did not discover his Jewish
wrote:
Real Time Mat 15/26
https://youtu.be/BHOJCbRJu28?si=Vrol9ptbvlLK2Kka
Bill is great as always.
heritage until he was a teenager. Today, he identifies as an atheist and >>>> does not practice either religion
From a Buddhist perspective, you should hate nobody. Is that the
I say the extremes don't define the conversation.
baseline, or something else puts people over the edge?
So, I've noticed you and Nick have not told both sides of the story,Did you notice that he tells both sides of the story?
only opinions. You guys don't seem to be big on history.
And we certainly do not recognize you as any sort of expert on
anything at all.
Two extremists, one at each end: Noah thinks it's Biblical prophecy;
Nick thinks it's genocide against the Arabs (refugees who went from 700 >>>> to a million population since 1947) and that Israel should be divided up >>>> so everyone has at least 1 hectare.
And you would be knowing this how?
So not propaganda.
I told you how.
What did Bill say? Can you sum it up in just a few words. Thanks.
Bill deserves to be heard.
The interesting thing for me would be if you listened to what he said
and could tell me where he tells of hate for palestinians and their
persecution. It is easy to miss, so many who don't want to hear that
do not.
almost nothing, except for their animosity toward Israel and Jewish people. >>
He sharply criticized both "woke" campus progressives and right-wing
figures for using rhetoric that stokes antisemitism Like you and Nick.
He also noted that you can wear a keffiyeh anywhere but Jews are now afraid to >wear a Star of David pendant.
On May 16, 2026 at 4:17:19?PM EDT, "Tara" <tsm@fastmail.ca> wrote:
On May 16, 2026 at 3:13:17?PM EDT, "Dude" <punditster@gmail.com> wrote:
On 5/16/2026 8:50 AM, Noah Sombrero wrote:
On Sat, 16 May 2026 08:42:37 -0700, Dude <punditster@gmail.com> wrote: >>>>Bill Maher noted that the political far-left and far-right agree on
On 5/16/2026 6:30 AM, Noah Sombrero wrote:
On Sat, 16 May 2026 13:08:49 -0000 (UTC), Tara <tsm@fastmail.ca>Bill Maher was born to a Jewish mother and an Irish-Catholic father. He >>>>> was raised in the Catholic faith but did not discover his Jewish
wrote:
Real Time Mat 15/26
https://youtu.be/BHOJCbRJu28?si=Vrol9ptbvlLK2Kka
Bill is great as always.
heritage until he was a teenager. Today, he identifies as an atheist and >>>>> does not practice either religion
From a Buddhist perspective, you should hate nobody. Is that the
I say the extremes don't define the conversation.
baseline, or something else puts people over the edge?
So, I've noticed you and Nick have not told both sides of the story, >>>>> only opinions. You guys don't seem to be big on history.Did you notice that he tells both sides of the story?
And we certainly do not recognize you as any sort of expert on
anything at all.
Two extremists, one at each end: Noah thinks it's Biblical prophecy; >>>>> Nick thinks it's genocide against the Arabs (refugees who went from 700 >>>>> to a million population since 1947) and that Israel should be divided up >>>>> so everyone has at least 1 hectare.
And you would be knowing this how?
So not propaganda.
I told you how.
What did Bill say? Can you sum it up in just a few words. Thanks.
Bill deserves to be heard.
The interesting thing for me would be if you listened to what he said
and could tell me where he tells of hate for palestinians and their
persecution. It is easy to miss, so many who don't want to hear that
do not.
almost nothing, except for their animosity toward Israel and Jewish people. >>>
He sharply criticized both "woke" campus progressives and right-wing
figures for using rhetoric that stokes antisemitism Like you and Nick.
He also noted that you can wear a keffiyeh anywhere but Jews are now afraid to
wear a Star of David pendant.
I especially liked when Bill called 'progressives" and left-wing critics of >Israel 'brats".
He said:..."if you brats had to spend a week anywhere in the Middle East other >than Israel you would understand what liberalism is."
On 16/05/2026 21:52, Tara wrote:
On May 16, 2026 at 4:42:11rC>PM EDT, "Dude" <punditster@gmail.com> wrote:
On 5/16/2026 1:10 PM, Tara wrote:
On May 16, 2026 at 2:44:27rC>PM EDT, "Dude" <punditster@gmail.com> wrote: >>>>It's just not funny - politics, sexism, anti-Semitic tropes or
On 5/16/2026 8:57 AM, Noah Sombrero wrote:If they have a platform, why not use it. Everyone else does.
On Sat, 16 May 2026 08:55:25 -0700, Dude <punditster@gmail.com> wrote: >>>>>>Standup comics should maybe stick to comedy to make people laugh. YMMV. >>>>
On 5/16/2026 6:08 AM, Tara wrote:There you have it, Bill, no matter what, there will be some who can >>>>>> denigrate you. Even you.
Real Time Mat 15/26It's good to hear or read both sides of any debate. Not sure if stand up
https://youtu.be/BHOJCbRJu28?si=Vrol9ptbvlLK2Kka
comics can pull it off. Out of the box it's already offensive.
There's no "Jews" - if so, they should be able to be defined. All Jewish
individuals are different.
The phrase "No Jews" is widely classified as both an offensive term and >>>>>>> a form of discriminatory hate speech.
Historically, it refers to exclusionary policies (such as "No Jews or >>>>>>> Dogs" signs) used to bar Jewish people from accessing housing,
employment, and public accommodations.When used today to exclude or >>>>>>> target the group, it functions as an ethnic slur and a manifestation of >>>>>>> antisemitism. YMMV.
While "Jew" is a noun, "Jewish" is the adjective.
Note: Some may find the noun "Jew" used to describe someone offensive in
certain contexts, making the phrase "Jewish person" generally safer, >>>>>>> unless you're Nick, then you just make up a new derogatory. Who care? >>>>>>
homophobic smears. YMMV.
Comedian Byron Allen appeared on CNN today to discuss replacing Stephen
Colbert's late-night slot:
His show, Comics Unleashed, would be a "clean comedy" format. He stated
his approach is simply to "just be funny" rather than tackling politics, >>> stating:
"We donrCOt do anything thatrCOs racist or sexist or anti-Semitic or
homophobic. Comedians should just make you laugh."
Why not have both (clean and.. ummm... not clean?) and you can choose which >> one you want to audience for.
Apart from under 7yos, it's hard to get a laugh without offending at
least one body.
On 16/05/2026 19:08, dart200 wrote:
On 5/16/26 10:18 AM, Julian wrote:
On 16/05/2026 18:05, dart200 wrote:
On 5/16/26 6:33 AM, Julian wrote:
On 16/05/2026 14:08, Tara wrote:
Real Time Mat 15/26
https://youtu.be/BHOJCbRJu28?si=Vrol9ptbvlLK2Kka
That's great but, unfortunately, the people who
need to watch it through to the end won't. Do though,
in spite of it being skewered in the vid, batten down
the hatches for an incoming tsumani of "whataboutery."
there's literally no content in that for me
And yet...
You 21st century kids don't know how lucky you are.
he tries to claim other countries/situations are worse... but nothing >>>> in the 21st century is actually worse than the middle east wars
that doesn't justify what *is* still going on,
Good, it wasn't meant to.
or defend the people
causing them: namely zionists and muzzies
Good, it wasn't meant to.
On 5/16/2026 8:57 AM, Noah Sombrero wrote:
On Sat, 16 May 2026 08:55:25 -0700, Dude <punditster@gmail.com> wrote:
On 5/16/2026 6:08 AM, Tara wrote:
Real Time Mat 15/26It's good to hear or read both sides of any debate. Not sure if stand up >>> comics can pull it off. Out of the box it's already offensive.
https://youtu.be/BHOJCbRJu28?si=Vrol9ptbvlLK2Kka
There's no "Jews" - if so, they should be able to be defined. All Jewish >>> individuals are different.
The phrase "No Jews" is widely classified as both an offensive term and
a form of discriminatory hate speech.
Historically, it refers to exclusionary policies (such as "No Jews or
Dogs" signs) used to bar Jewish people from accessing housing,
employment, and public accommodations.When used today to exclude or
target the group, it functions as an ethnic slur and a manifestation of
antisemitism. YMMV.
While "Jew" is a noun, "Jewish" is the adjective.
Note: Some may find the noun "Jew" used to describe someone offensive in >>> certain contexts, making the phrase "Jewish person" generally safer,
unless you're Nick, then you just make up a new derogatory. Who care?
There you have it, Bill, no matter what, there will be some who can
denigrate you. Even you.
Standup comics should maybe stick to comedy to make people laugh. YMMV.
On Sat, 16 May 2026 20:17:19 -0000 (UTC), Tara <tsm@fastmail.ca>
wrote:
On May 16, 2026 at 3:13:17?PM EDT, "Dude" <punditster@gmail.com> wrote:
On 5/16/2026 8:50 AM, Noah Sombrero wrote:
On Sat, 16 May 2026 08:42:37 -0700, Dude <punditster@gmail.com> wrote: >>>>Bill Maher noted that the political far-left and far-right agree on
On 5/16/2026 6:30 AM, Noah Sombrero wrote:
On Sat, 16 May 2026 13:08:49 -0000 (UTC), Tara <tsm@fastmail.ca>Bill Maher was born to a Jewish mother and an Irish-Catholic father. He >>>>> was raised in the Catholic faith but did not discover his Jewish
wrote:
Real Time Mat 15/26
https://youtu.be/BHOJCbRJu28?si=Vrol9ptbvlLK2Kka
Bill is great as always.
heritage until he was a teenager. Today, he identifies as an atheist and >>>>> does not practice either religion
From a Buddhist perspective, you should hate nobody. Is that the
I say the extremes don't define the conversation.
baseline, or something else puts people over the edge?
So, I've noticed you and Nick have not told both sides of the story, >>>>> only opinions. You guys don't seem to be big on history.Did you notice that he tells both sides of the story?
And we certainly do not recognize you as any sort of expert on
anything at all.
Two extremists, one at each end: Noah thinks it's Biblical prophecy; >>>>> Nick thinks it's genocide against the Arabs (refugees who went from 700 >>>>> to a million population since 1947) and that Israel should be divided up >>>>> so everyone has at least 1 hectare.
And you would be knowing this how?
So not propaganda.
I told you how.
What did Bill say? Can you sum it up in just a few words. Thanks.
Bill deserves to be heard.
The interesting thing for me would be if you listened to what he said
and could tell me where he tells of hate for palestinians and their
persecution. It is easy to miss, so many who don't want to hear that
do not.
almost nothing, except for their animosity toward Israel and Jewish people. >>>
He sharply criticized both "woke" campus progressives and right-wing
figures for using rhetoric that stokes antisemitism Like you and Nick.
He also noted that you can wear a keffiyeh anywhere but Jews are now afraid to
wear a Star of David pendant.
How about all those various female covering, except head, garments?
Does somebody object to those?
On May 16, 2026 at 4:26:10?PM EDT, "Tara" <tsm@fastmail.ca> wrote:
On May 16, 2026 at 4:17:19?PM EDT, "Tara" <tsm@fastmail.ca> wrote:
On May 16, 2026 at 3:13:17?PM EDT, "Dude" <punditster@gmail.com> wrote:
On 5/16/2026 8:50 AM, Noah Sombrero wrote:
On Sat, 16 May 2026 08:42:37 -0700, Dude <punditster@gmail.com> wrote: >>>>>Bill Maher noted that the political far-left and far-right agree on
On 5/16/2026 6:30 AM, Noah Sombrero wrote:
On Sat, 16 May 2026 13:08:49 -0000 (UTC), Tara <tsm@fastmail.ca> >>>>>>> wrote:Bill Maher was born to a Jewish mother and an Irish-Catholic father. He >>>>>> was raised in the Catholic faith but did not discover his Jewish
Real Time Mat 15/26
https://youtu.be/BHOJCbRJu28?si=Vrol9ptbvlLK2Kka
Bill is great as always.
heritage until he was a teenager. Today, he identifies as an atheist and >>>>>> does not practice either religion
From a Buddhist perspective, you should hate nobody. Is that the
I say the extremes don't define the conversation.
baseline, or something else puts people over the edge?
So, I've noticed you and Nick have not told both sides of the story, >>>>>> only opinions. You guys don't seem to be big on history.Did you notice that he tells both sides of the story?
And we certainly do not recognize you as any sort of expert on
anything at all.
Two extremists, one at each end: Noah thinks it's Biblical prophecy; >>>>>> Nick thinks it's genocide against the Arabs (refugees who went from 700 >>>>>> to a million population since 1947) and that Israel should be divided up >>>>>> so everyone has at least 1 hectare.
And you would be knowing this how?
So not propaganda.
I told you how.
What did Bill say? Can you sum it up in just a few words. Thanks.
Bill deserves to be heard.
The interesting thing for me would be if you listened to what he said >>>>> and could tell me where he tells of hate for palestinians and their
persecution. It is easy to miss, so many who don't want to hear that >>>>> do not.
almost nothing, except for their animosity toward Israel and Jewish people.
He sharply criticized both "woke" campus progressives and right-wing
figures for using rhetoric that stokes antisemitism Like you and Nick.
He also noted that you can wear a keffiyeh anywhere but Jews are now afraid to
wear a Star of David pendant.
I especially liked when Bill called 'progressives" and left-wing critics of >> Israel 'brats".
He said:..."if you brats had to spend a week anywhere in the Middle East other
than Israel you would understand what liberalism is."
But then there are those brats (a minority to be sure) but even in our midst, >who don't discriminate. They hate both sides!
On May 16, 2026 at 5:16:07?PM EDT, "Noah Sombrero" <fedora@fea.st> wrote:Oh, you know those female modesty garments (I can't think of the names
On Sat, 16 May 2026 20:17:19 -0000 (UTC), Tara <tsm@fastmail.ca>
wrote:
On May 16, 2026 at 3:13:17?PM EDT, "Dude" <punditster@gmail.com> wrote:
On 5/16/2026 8:50 AM, Noah Sombrero wrote:
On Sat, 16 May 2026 08:42:37 -0700, Dude <punditster@gmail.com> wrote: >>>>>Bill Maher noted that the political far-left and far-right agree on
On 5/16/2026 6:30 AM, Noah Sombrero wrote:
On Sat, 16 May 2026 13:08:49 -0000 (UTC), Tara <tsm@fastmail.ca> >>>>>>> wrote:Bill Maher was born to a Jewish mother and an Irish-Catholic father. He >>>>>> was raised in the Catholic faith but did not discover his Jewish
Real Time Mat 15/26
https://youtu.be/BHOJCbRJu28?si=Vrol9ptbvlLK2Kka
Bill is great as always.
heritage until he was a teenager. Today, he identifies as an atheist and >>>>>> does not practice either religion
From a Buddhist perspective, you should hate nobody. Is that the
I say the extremes don't define the conversation.
baseline, or something else puts people over the edge?
So, I've noticed you and Nick have not told both sides of the story, >>>>>> only opinions. You guys don't seem to be big on history.Did you notice that he tells both sides of the story?
And we certainly do not recognize you as any sort of expert on
anything at all.
Two extremists, one at each end: Noah thinks it's Biblical prophecy; >>>>>> Nick thinks it's genocide against the Arabs (refugees who went from 700 >>>>>> to a million population since 1947) and that Israel should be divided up >>>>>> so everyone has at least 1 hectare.
And you would be knowing this how?
So not propaganda.
I told you how.
What did Bill say? Can you sum it up in just a few words. Thanks.
Bill deserves to be heard.
The interesting thing for me would be if you listened to what he said >>>>> and could tell me where he tells of hate for palestinians and their
persecution. It is easy to miss, so many who don't want to hear that >>>>> do not.
almost nothing, except for their animosity toward Israel and Jewish people.
He sharply criticized both "woke" campus progressives and right-wing
figures for using rhetoric that stokes antisemitism Like you and Nick.
He also noted that you can wear a keffiyeh anywhere but Jews are now afraid to
wear a Star of David pendant.
How about all those various female covering, except head, garments?
Does somebody object to those?
?
On Sat, 16 May 2026 20:45:55 -0000 (UTC), Tara <tsm@fastmail.ca>
wrote:
On May 16, 2026 at 4:26:10?PM EDT, "Tara" <tsm@fastmail.ca> wrote:
On May 16, 2026 at 4:17:19?PM EDT, "Tara" <tsm@fastmail.ca> wrote:
On May 16, 2026 at 3:13:17?PM EDT, "Dude" <punditster@gmail.com> wrote: >>>>
On 5/16/2026 8:50 AM, Noah Sombrero wrote:He also noted that you can wear a keffiyeh anywhere but Jews are now afraid to
On Sat, 16 May 2026 08:42:37 -0700, Dude <punditster@gmail.com> wrote: >>>>>>Bill Maher noted that the political far-left and far-right agree on
On 5/16/2026 6:30 AM, Noah Sombrero wrote:
On Sat, 16 May 2026 13:08:49 -0000 (UTC), Tara <tsm@fastmail.ca> >>>>>>>> wrote:Bill Maher was born to a Jewish mother and an Irish-Catholic father. He >>>>>>> was raised in the Catholic faith but did not discover his Jewish >>>>>>> heritage until he was a teenager. Today, he identifies as an atheist and
Real Time Mat 15/26
https://youtu.be/BHOJCbRJu28?si=Vrol9ptbvlLK2Kka
Bill is great as always.
does not practice either religion
From a Buddhist perspective, you should hate nobody. Is that the >>>>>>> baseline, or something else puts people over the edge?
I say the extremes don't define the conversation.
So, I've noticed you and Nick have not told both sides of the story, >>>>>>> only opinions. You guys don't seem to be big on history.Did you notice that he tells both sides of the story?
And we certainly do not recognize you as any sort of expert on
anything at all.
Two extremists, one at each end: Noah thinks it's Biblical prophecy; >>>>>>> Nick thinks it's genocide against the Arabs (refugees who went from 700 >>>>>>> to a million population since 1947) and that Israel should be divided up
so everyone has at least 1 hectare.
And you would be knowing this how?
So not propaganda.
I told you how.
The interesting thing for me would be if you listened to what he said >>>>>> and could tell me where he tells of hate for palestinians and their >>>>>> persecution. It is easy to miss, so many who don't want to hear that >>>>>> do not.What did Bill say? Can you sum it up in just a few words. Thanks. >>>>>>
Bill deserves to be heard.
almost nothing, except for their animosity toward Israel and Jewish people.
He sharply criticized both "woke" campus progressives and right-wing >>>>> figures for using rhetoric that stokes antisemitism Like you and Nick. >>>>
wear a Star of David pendant.
I especially liked when Bill called 'progressives" and left-wing critics of >>> Israel 'brats".
He said:..."if you brats had to spend a week anywhere in the Middle East other
than Israel you would understand what liberalism is."
But then there are those brats (a minority to be sure) but even in our midst,
who don't discriminate. They hate both sides!
To one who has chosen a side, hating neither might look like hating
both.
On May 16, 2026 at 5:16:07rC>PM EDT, "Noah Sombrero" <fedora@fea.st> wrote:
On Sat, 16 May 2026 20:17:19 -0000 (UTC), Tara <tsm@fastmail.ca>
wrote:
On May 16, 2026 at 3:13:17?PM EDT, "Dude" <punditster@gmail.com> wrote:
On 5/16/2026 8:50 AM, Noah Sombrero wrote:
On Sat, 16 May 2026 08:42:37 -0700, Dude <punditster@gmail.com> wrote: >>>>>Bill Maher noted that the political far-left and far-right agree on
On 5/16/2026 6:30 AM, Noah Sombrero wrote:
On Sat, 16 May 2026 13:08:49 -0000 (UTC), Tara <tsm@fastmail.ca> >>>>>>> wrote:Bill Maher was born to a Jewish mother and an Irish-Catholic father. He >>>>>> was raised in the Catholic faith but did not discover his Jewish
Real Time Mat 15/26
https://youtu.be/BHOJCbRJu28?si=Vrol9ptbvlLK2Kka
Bill is great as always.
heritage until he was a teenager. Today, he identifies as an atheist and >>>>>> does not practice either religion
From a Buddhist perspective, you should hate nobody. Is that the >>>>>> baseline, or something else puts people over the edge?
I say the extremes don't define the conversation.
So, I've noticed you and Nick have not told both sides of the story, >>>>>> only opinions. You guys don't seem to be big on history.Did you notice that he tells both sides of the story?
And we certainly do not recognize you as any sort of expert on
anything at all.
Two extremists, one at each end: Noah thinks it's Biblical prophecy; >>>>>> Nick thinks it's genocide against the Arabs (refugees who went from 700 >>>>>> to a million population since 1947) and that Israel should be divided up >>>>>> so everyone has at least 1 hectare.
And you would be knowing this how?
So not propaganda.
I told you how.
What did Bill say? Can you sum it up in just a few words. Thanks.
Bill deserves to be heard.
The interesting thing for me would be if you listened to what he said >>>>> and could tell me where he tells of hate for palestinians and their
persecution. It is easy to miss, so many who don't want to hear that >>>>> do not.
almost nothing, except for their animosity toward Israel and Jewish people.
He sharply criticized both "woke" campus progressives and right-wing
figures for using rhetoric that stokes antisemitism Like you and Nick.
He also noted that you can wear a keffiyeh anywhere but Jews are now afraid to
wear a Star of David pendant.
How about all those various female covering, except head, garments?
Does somebody object to those?
?
On Sat, 16 May 2026 21:35:54 -0000 (UTC), Tara <tsm@fastmail.ca>
wrote:
On May 16, 2026 at 5:16:07?PM EDT, "Noah Sombrero" <fedora@fea.st> wrote:Oh, you know those female modesty garments (I can't think of the names
On Sat, 16 May 2026 20:17:19 -0000 (UTC), Tara <tsm@fastmail.ca>
wrote:
On May 16, 2026 at 3:13:17?PM EDT, "Dude" <punditster@gmail.com> wrote: >>>>
On 5/16/2026 8:50 AM, Noah Sombrero wrote:He also noted that you can wear a keffiyeh anywhere but Jews are now afraid to
On Sat, 16 May 2026 08:42:37 -0700, Dude <punditster@gmail.com> wrote: >>>>>>Bill Maher noted that the political far-left and far-right agree on
On 5/16/2026 6:30 AM, Noah Sombrero wrote:
On Sat, 16 May 2026 13:08:49 -0000 (UTC), Tara <tsm@fastmail.ca> >>>>>>>> wrote:Bill Maher was born to a Jewish mother and an Irish-Catholic father. He >>>>>>> was raised in the Catholic faith but did not discover his Jewish >>>>>>> heritage until he was a teenager. Today, he identifies as an atheist and
Real Time Mat 15/26
https://youtu.be/BHOJCbRJu28?si=Vrol9ptbvlLK2Kka
Bill is great as always.
does not practice either religion
From a Buddhist perspective, you should hate nobody. Is that the >>>>>>> baseline, or something else puts people over the edge?
I say the extremes don't define the conversation.
So, I've noticed you and Nick have not told both sides of the story, >>>>>>> only opinions. You guys don't seem to be big on history.Did you notice that he tells both sides of the story?
And we certainly do not recognize you as any sort of expert on
anything at all.
Two extremists, one at each end: Noah thinks it's Biblical prophecy; >>>>>>> Nick thinks it's genocide against the Arabs (refugees who went from 700 >>>>>>> to a million population since 1947) and that Israel should be divided up
so everyone has at least 1 hectare.
And you would be knowing this how?
So not propaganda.
I told you how.
The interesting thing for me would be if you listened to what he said >>>>>> and could tell me where he tells of hate for palestinians and their >>>>>> persecution. It is easy to miss, so many who don't want to hear that >>>>>> do not.What did Bill say? Can you sum it up in just a few words. Thanks. >>>>>>
Bill deserves to be heard.
almost nothing, except for their animosity toward Israel and Jewish people.
He sharply criticized both "woke" campus progressives and right-wing >>>>> figures for using rhetoric that stokes antisemitism Like you and Nick. >>>>
wear a Star of David pendant.
How about all those various female covering, except head, garments?
Does somebody object to those?
?
right now) that muslims sometimes want women to wear.
On Sat, 16 May 2026 11:44:27 -0700, Dude <punditster@gmail.com> wrote:
On 5/16/2026 8:57 AM, Noah Sombrero wrote:
On Sat, 16 May 2026 08:55:25 -0700, Dude <punditster@gmail.com> wrote:Standup comics should maybe stick to comedy to make people laugh. YMMV.
On 5/16/2026 6:08 AM, Tara wrote:
Real Time Mat 15/26It's good to hear or read both sides of any debate. Not sure if stand up >>>> comics can pull it off. Out of the box it's already offensive.
https://youtu.be/BHOJCbRJu28?si=Vrol9ptbvlLK2Kka
There's no "Jews" - if so, they should be able to be defined. All Jewish >>>> individuals are different.
The phrase "No Jews" is widely classified as both an offensive term and >>>> a form of discriminatory hate speech.
Historically, it refers to exclusionary policies (such as "No Jews or
Dogs" signs) used to bar Jewish people from accessing housing,
employment, and public accommodations.When used today to exclude or
target the group, it functions as an ethnic slur and a manifestation of >>>> antisemitism. YMMV.
While "Jew" is a noun, "Jewish" is the adjective.
Note: Some may find the noun "Jew" used to describe someone offensive in >>>> certain contexts, making the phrase "Jewish person" generally safer,
unless you're Nick, then you just make up a new derogatory. Who care?
There you have it, Bill, no matter what, there will be some who can
denigrate you. Even you.
No, bill, I really appreciate it when you tell us what stinks. Even
if half the population would not hear you if they did listen.
On Sat, 16 May 2026 20:17:19 -0000 (UTC), Tara <tsm@fastmail.ca>
wrote:
On May 16, 2026 at 3:13:17?PM EDT, "Dude" <punditster@gmail.com> wrote:
On 5/16/2026 8:50 AM, Noah Sombrero wrote:
On Sat, 16 May 2026 08:42:37 -0700, Dude <punditster@gmail.com> wrote: >>>>Bill Maher noted that the political far-left and far-right agree on
On 5/16/2026 6:30 AM, Noah Sombrero wrote:
On Sat, 16 May 2026 13:08:49 -0000 (UTC), Tara <tsm@fastmail.ca>Bill Maher was born to a Jewish mother and an Irish-Catholic father. He >>>>> was raised in the Catholic faith but did not discover his Jewish
wrote:
Real Time Mat 15/26
https://youtu.be/BHOJCbRJu28?si=Vrol9ptbvlLK2Kka
Bill is great as always.
heritage until he was a teenager. Today, he identifies as an atheist and >>>>> does not practice either religion
From a Buddhist perspective, you should hate nobody. Is that the
I say the extremes don't define the conversation.
baseline, or something else puts people over the edge?
So, I've noticed you and Nick have not told both sides of the story, >>>>> only opinions. You guys don't seem to be big on history.Did you notice that he tells both sides of the story?
And we certainly do not recognize you as any sort of expert on
anything at all.
Two extremists, one at each end: Noah thinks it's Biblical prophecy; >>>>> Nick thinks it's genocide against the Arabs (refugees who went from 700 >>>>> to a million population since 1947) and that Israel should be divided up >>>>> so everyone has at least 1 hectare.
And you would be knowing this how?
So not propaganda.
I told you how.
What did Bill say? Can you sum it up in just a few words. Thanks.
Bill deserves to be heard.
The interesting thing for me would be if you listened to what he said
and could tell me where he tells of hate for palestinians and their
persecution. It is easy to miss, so many who don't want to hear that
do not.
almost nothing, except for their animosity toward Israel and Jewish people. >>>
He sharply criticized both "woke" campus progressives and right-wing
figures for using rhetoric that stokes antisemitism Like you and Nick.
He also noted that you can wear a keffiyeh anywhere but Jews are now afraid to
wear a Star of David pendant.
How about all those various female covering, except head, garments?
Does somebody object to those?
On Sat, 16 May 2026 21:35:54 -0000 (UTC), Tara <tsm@fastmail.ca>
wrote:
On May 16, 2026 at 5:16:07?PM EDT, "Noah Sombrero" <fedora@fea.st> wrote:Oh, you know those female modesty garments (I can't think of the names
On Sat, 16 May 2026 20:17:19 -0000 (UTC), Tara <tsm@fastmail.ca>
wrote:
On May 16, 2026 at 3:13:17?PM EDT, "Dude" <punditster@gmail.com> wrote: >>>>
On 5/16/2026 8:50 AM, Noah Sombrero wrote:He also noted that you can wear a keffiyeh anywhere but Jews are now afraid to
On Sat, 16 May 2026 08:42:37 -0700, Dude <punditster@gmail.com> wrote: >>>>>>Bill Maher noted that the political far-left and far-right agree on
On 5/16/2026 6:30 AM, Noah Sombrero wrote:
On Sat, 16 May 2026 13:08:49 -0000 (UTC), Tara <tsm@fastmail.ca> >>>>>>>> wrote:Bill Maher was born to a Jewish mother and an Irish-Catholic father. He >>>>>>> was raised in the Catholic faith but did not discover his Jewish >>>>>>> heritage until he was a teenager. Today, he identifies as an atheist and
Real Time Mat 15/26
https://youtu.be/BHOJCbRJu28?si=Vrol9ptbvlLK2Kka
Bill is great as always.
does not practice either religion
From a Buddhist perspective, you should hate nobody. Is that the >>>>>>> baseline, or something else puts people over the edge?
I say the extremes don't define the conversation.
So, I've noticed you and Nick have not told both sides of the story, >>>>>>> only opinions. You guys don't seem to be big on history.Did you notice that he tells both sides of the story?
And we certainly do not recognize you as any sort of expert on
anything at all.
Two extremists, one at each end: Noah thinks it's Biblical prophecy; >>>>>>> Nick thinks it's genocide against the Arabs (refugees who went from 700 >>>>>>> to a million population since 1947) and that Israel should be divided up
so everyone has at least 1 hectare.
And you would be knowing this how?
So not propaganda.
I told you how.
The interesting thing for me would be if you listened to what he said >>>>>> and could tell me where he tells of hate for palestinians and their >>>>>> persecution. It is easy to miss, so many who don't want to hear that >>>>>> do not.What did Bill say? Can you sum it up in just a few words. Thanks. >>>>>>
Bill deserves to be heard.
almost nothing, except for their animosity toward Israel and Jewish people.
He sharply criticized both "woke" campus progressives and right-wing >>>>> figures for using rhetoric that stokes antisemitism Like you and Nick. >>>>
wear a Star of David pendant.
How about all those various female covering, except head, garments?
Does somebody object to those?
?
right now) that muslims sometimes want women to wear.
On Sat, 16 May 2026 19:30:05 +0100, Julian <julianlzb87@gmail.com>
wrote:
On 16/05/2026 19:08, dart200 wrote:You aren't going to tell us what it was meant to do are you?
On 5/16/26 10:18 AM, Julian wrote:
On 16/05/2026 18:05, dart200 wrote:
On 5/16/26 6:33 AM, Julian wrote:
On 16/05/2026 14:08, Tara wrote:
Real Time Mat 15/26
https://youtu.be/BHOJCbRJu28?si=Vrol9ptbvlLK2Kka
That's great but, unfortunately, the people who
need to watch it through to the end won't. Do though,
in spite of it being skewered in the vid, batten down
the hatches for an incoming tsumani of "whataboutery."
there's literally no content in that for me
And yet...
You 21st century kids don't know how lucky you are.
he tries to claim other countries/situations are worse... but nothing >>>>> in the 21st century is actually worse than the middle east wars
that doesn't justify what *is* still going on,
Good, it wasn't meant to.
or defend the people
causing them: namely zionists and muzzies
Good, it wasn't meant to.
On May 16, 2026 at 5:42:06?PM EDT, "Noah Sombrero" <fedora@fea.st> wrote:
On Sat, 16 May 2026 20:45:55 -0000 (UTC), Tara <tsm@fastmail.ca>
wrote:
On May 16, 2026 at 4:26:10?PM EDT, "Tara" <tsm@fastmail.ca> wrote:
On May 16, 2026 at 4:17:19?PM EDT, "Tara" <tsm@fastmail.ca> wrote:
On May 16, 2026 at 3:13:17?PM EDT, "Dude" <punditster@gmail.com> wrote: >>>>>
On 5/16/2026 8:50 AM, Noah Sombrero wrote:He also noted that you can wear a keffiyeh anywhere but Jews are now afraid to
On Sat, 16 May 2026 08:42:37 -0700, Dude <punditster@gmail.com> wrote: >>>>>>>Bill Maher noted that the political far-left and far-right agree on >>>>>> almost nothing, except for their animosity toward Israel and Jewish people.
On 5/16/2026 6:30 AM, Noah Sombrero wrote:
On Sat, 16 May 2026 13:08:49 -0000 (UTC), Tara <tsm@fastmail.ca> >>>>>>>>> wrote:Bill Maher was born to a Jewish mother and an Irish-Catholic father. He
Real Time Mat 15/26
https://youtu.be/BHOJCbRJu28?si=Vrol9ptbvlLK2Kka
Bill is great as always.
was raised in the Catholic faith but did not discover his Jewish >>>>>>>> heritage until he was a teenager. Today, he identifies as an atheist and
does not practice either religion
From a Buddhist perspective, you should hate nobody. Is that the >>>>>>>> baseline, or something else puts people over the edge?
I say the extremes don't define the conversation.
So, I've noticed you and Nick have not told both sides of the story, >>>>>>>> only opinions. You guys don't seem to be big on history.Did you notice that he tells both sides of the story?
And we certainly do not recognize you as any sort of expert on
anything at all.
Two extremists, one at each end: Noah thinks it's Biblical prophecy; >>>>>>>> Nick thinks it's genocide against the Arabs (refugees who went from 700
to a million population since 1947) and that Israel should be divided up
so everyone has at least 1 hectare.
And you would be knowing this how?
So not propaganda.
I told you how.
The interesting thing for me would be if you listened to what he said >>>>>>> and could tell me where he tells of hate for palestinians and their >>>>>>> persecution. It is easy to miss, so many who don't want to hear that >>>>>>> do not.What did Bill say? Can you sum it up in just a few words. Thanks. >>>>>>>
Bill deserves to be heard.
He sharply criticized both "woke" campus progressives and right-wing >>>>>> figures for using rhetoric that stokes antisemitism Like you and Nick. >>>>>
wear a Star of David pendant.
I especially liked when Bill called 'progressives" and left-wing critics of
Israel 'brats".
He said:..."if you brats had to spend a week anywhere in the Middle East other
than Israel you would understand what liberalism is."
But then there are those brats (a minority to be sure) but even in our midst,
who don't discriminate. They hate both sides!
To one who has chosen a side, hating neither might look like hating
both.
or it might look like an easy way out.
On May 16, 2026 at 5:44:14?PM EDT, "Noah Sombrero" <fedora@fea.st> wrote:
On Sat, 16 May 2026 21:35:54 -0000 (UTC), Tara <tsm@fastmail.ca>
wrote:
On May 16, 2026 at 5:16:07?PM EDT, "Noah Sombrero" <fedora@fea.st> wrote: >>>Oh, you know those female modesty garments (I can't think of the names
On Sat, 16 May 2026 20:17:19 -0000 (UTC), Tara <tsm@fastmail.ca>
wrote:
On May 16, 2026 at 3:13:17?PM EDT, "Dude" <punditster@gmail.com> wrote: >>>>>
On 5/16/2026 8:50 AM, Noah Sombrero wrote:He also noted that you can wear a keffiyeh anywhere but Jews are now afraid to
On Sat, 16 May 2026 08:42:37 -0700, Dude <punditster@gmail.com> wrote: >>>>>>>Bill Maher noted that the political far-left and far-right agree on >>>>>> almost nothing, except for their animosity toward Israel and Jewish people.
On 5/16/2026 6:30 AM, Noah Sombrero wrote:
On Sat, 16 May 2026 13:08:49 -0000 (UTC), Tara <tsm@fastmail.ca> >>>>>>>>> wrote:Bill Maher was born to a Jewish mother and an Irish-Catholic father. He
Real Time Mat 15/26
https://youtu.be/BHOJCbRJu28?si=Vrol9ptbvlLK2Kka
Bill is great as always.
was raised in the Catholic faith but did not discover his Jewish >>>>>>>> heritage until he was a teenager. Today, he identifies as an atheist and
does not practice either religion
From a Buddhist perspective, you should hate nobody. Is that the >>>>>>>> baseline, or something else puts people over the edge?
I say the extremes don't define the conversation.
So, I've noticed you and Nick have not told both sides of the story, >>>>>>>> only opinions. You guys don't seem to be big on history.Did you notice that he tells both sides of the story?
And we certainly do not recognize you as any sort of expert on
anything at all.
Two extremists, one at each end: Noah thinks it's Biblical prophecy; >>>>>>>> Nick thinks it's genocide against the Arabs (refugees who went from 700
to a million population since 1947) and that Israel should be divided up
so everyone has at least 1 hectare.
And you would be knowing this how?
So not propaganda.
I told you how.
The interesting thing for me would be if you listened to what he said >>>>>>> and could tell me where he tells of hate for palestinians and their >>>>>>> persecution. It is easy to miss, so many who don't want to hear that >>>>>>> do not.What did Bill say? Can you sum it up in just a few words. Thanks. >>>>>>>
Bill deserves to be heard.
He sharply criticized both "woke" campus progressives and right-wing >>>>>> figures for using rhetoric that stokes antisemitism Like you and Nick. >>>>>
wear a Star of David pendant.
How about all those various female covering, except head, garments?
Does somebody object to those?
?
right now) that muslims sometimes want women to wear.
I don't think anyone objects to anything that muslim women wear.
Except in--
Quebec if they want to teach school or be identified somehow. Ha
On 16/05/2026 22:35, Tara wrote:
On May 16, 2026 at 5:16:07?PM EDT, "Noah Sombrero" <fedora@fea.st> wrote:
On Sat, 16 May 2026 20:17:19 -0000 (UTC), Tara <tsm@fastmail.ca>
wrote:
On May 16, 2026 at 3:13:17?PM EDT, "Dude" <punditster@gmail.com> wrote: >>>>
On 5/16/2026 8:50 AM, Noah Sombrero wrote:He also noted that you can wear a keffiyeh anywhere but Jews are now afraid to
On Sat, 16 May 2026 08:42:37 -0700, Dude <punditster@gmail.com> wrote: >>>>>>Bill Maher noted that the political far-left and far-right agree on
On 5/16/2026 6:30 AM, Noah Sombrero wrote:
On Sat, 16 May 2026 13:08:49 -0000 (UTC), Tara <tsm@fastmail.ca> >>>>>>>> wrote:Bill Maher was born to a Jewish mother and an Irish-Catholic father. He >>>>>>> was raised in the Catholic faith but did not discover his Jewish >>>>>>> heritage until he was a teenager. Today, he identifies as an atheist and
Real Time Mat 15/26
https://youtu.be/BHOJCbRJu28?si=Vrol9ptbvlLK2Kka
Bill is great as always.
does not practice either religion
From a Buddhist perspective, you should hate nobody. Is that the >>>>>>> baseline, or something else puts people over the edge?
I say the extremes don't define the conversation.
So, I've noticed you and Nick have not told both sides of the story, >>>>>>> only opinions. You guys don't seem to be big on history.Did you notice that he tells both sides of the story?
And we certainly do not recognize you as any sort of expert on
anything at all.
Two extremists, one at each end: Noah thinks it's Biblical prophecy; >>>>>>> Nick thinks it's genocide against the Arabs (refugees who went from 700 >>>>>>> to a million population since 1947) and that Israel should be divided up
so everyone has at least 1 hectare.
And you would be knowing this how?
So not propaganda.
I told you how.
The interesting thing for me would be if you listened to what he said >>>>>> and could tell me where he tells of hate for palestinians and their >>>>>> persecution. It is easy to miss, so many who don't want to hear that >>>>>> do not.What did Bill say? Can you sum it up in just a few words. Thanks. >>>>>>
Bill deserves to be heard.
almost nothing, except for their animosity toward Israel and Jewish people.
He sharply criticized both "woke" campus progressives and right-wing >>>>> figures for using rhetoric that stokes antisemitism Like you and Nick. >>>>
wear a Star of David pendant.
How about all those various female covering, except head, garments?
Does somebody object to those?
?
It's an epitomic category error.
On 5/16/2026 2:35 PM, Noah Sombrero wrote:
On Sat, 16 May 2026 11:44:27 -0700, Dude <punditster@gmail.com> wrote:
On 5/16/2026 8:57 AM, Noah Sombrero wrote:
On Sat, 16 May 2026 08:55:25 -0700, Dude <punditster@gmail.com> wrote: >>>>Standup comics should maybe stick to comedy to make people laugh. YMMV.
On 5/16/2026 6:08 AM, Tara wrote:There you have it, Bill, no matter what, there will be some who can
Real Time Mat 15/26It's good to hear or read both sides of any debate. Not sure if stand up >>>>> comics can pull it off. Out of the box it's already offensive.
https://youtu.be/BHOJCbRJu28?si=Vrol9ptbvlLK2Kka
There's no "Jews" - if so, they should be able to be defined. All Jewish >>>>> individuals are different.
The phrase "No Jews" is widely classified as both an offensive term and >>>>> a form of discriminatory hate speech.
Historically, it refers to exclusionary policies (such as "No Jews or >>>>> Dogs" signs) used to bar Jewish people from accessing housing,
employment, and public accommodations.When used today to exclude or
target the group, it functions as an ethnic slur and a manifestation of >>>>> antisemitism. YMMV.
While "Jew" is a noun, "Jewish" is the adjective.
Note: Some may find the noun "Jew" used to describe someone offensive in >>>>> certain contexts, making the phrase "Jewish person" generally safer, >>>>> unless you're Nick, then you just make up a new derogatory. Who care? >>>>
denigrate you. Even you.
No, bill, I really appreciate it when you tell us what stinks. Even
if half the population would not hear you if they did listen.
Nobody watches late night comedy anymore - that's old school. These days >it's all about the clip - shorts, for short. Young people today are into >three second clips, not an hour long variety show with one lame comedy act.
Advertisers are no longer willing to pay the high premiums of the past >because viewers increasingly consume clips on digital and on-demand >platforms rather than watching live broadcasts.--
On Sat, 16 May 2026 15:01:19 -0700, Dude <punditster@gmail.com> wrote:
On 5/16/2026 2:35 PM, Noah Sombrero wrote:
On Sat, 16 May 2026 11:44:27 -0700, Dude <punditster@gmail.com> wrote:Nobody watches late night comedy anymore - that's old school. These days >>it's all about the clip - shorts, for short. Young people today are into >>three second clips, not an hour long variety show with one lame comedy act.
On 5/16/2026 8:57 AM, Noah Sombrero wrote:No, bill, I really appreciate it when you tell us what stinks. Even
On Sat, 16 May 2026 08:55:25 -0700, Dude <punditster@gmail.com> wrote: >>>>>Standup comics should maybe stick to comedy to make people laugh. YMMV. >>>
On 5/16/2026 6:08 AM, Tara wrote:There you have it, Bill, no matter what, there will be some who can
Real Time Mat 15/26It's good to hear or read both sides of any debate. Not sure if stand up >>>>>> comics can pull it off. Out of the box it's already offensive.
https://youtu.be/BHOJCbRJu28?si=Vrol9ptbvlLK2Kka
There's no "Jews" - if so, they should be able to be defined. All Jewish >>>>>> individuals are different.
The phrase "No Jews" is widely classified as both an offensive term and >>>>>> a form of discriminatory hate speech.
Historically, it refers to exclusionary policies (such as "No Jews or >>>>>> Dogs" signs) used to bar Jewish people from accessing housing,
employment, and public accommodations.When used today to exclude or >>>>>> target the group, it functions as an ethnic slur and a manifestation of >>>>>> antisemitism. YMMV.
While "Jew" is a noun, "Jewish" is the adjective.
Note: Some may find the noun "Jew" used to describe someone offensive in >>>>>> certain contexts, making the phrase "Jewish person" generally safer, >>>>>> unless you're Nick, then you just make up a new derogatory. Who care? >>>>>
denigrate you. Even you.
if half the population would not hear you if they did listen.
In that case it is "nobody's" loss. The people who, in past, valued
bill for the quality of his discussions and opinions still do.
I think the truth is that himboists want late night comedy to go away
because it is consistently far too uncomplimentary to them. Same for
bill, actually, but he isn't going away. He has been kicked off
networks a time or two, but so far manages to find a forum.
Advertisers are no longer willing to pay the high premiums of the past >>because viewers increasingly consume clips on digital and on-demand >>platforms rather than watching live broadcasts.
On Sat, 16 May 2026 22:55:06 +0100, Julian <julianlzb87@gmail.com>
wrote:
On 16/05/2026 22:35, Tara wrote:
On May 16, 2026 at 5:16:07?PM EDT, "Noah Sombrero" <fedora@fea.st> wrote: >>>
On Sat, 16 May 2026 20:17:19 -0000 (UTC), Tara <tsm@fastmail.ca>
wrote:
On May 16, 2026 at 3:13:17?PM EDT, "Dude" <punditster@gmail.com> wrote: >>>>>
On 5/16/2026 8:50 AM, Noah Sombrero wrote:He also noted that you can wear a keffiyeh anywhere but Jews are now afraid to
On Sat, 16 May 2026 08:42:37 -0700, Dude <punditster@gmail.com> wrote: >>>>>>>Bill Maher noted that the political far-left and far-right agree on >>>>>> almost nothing, except for their animosity toward Israel and Jewish people.
On 5/16/2026 6:30 AM, Noah Sombrero wrote:
On Sat, 16 May 2026 13:08:49 -0000 (UTC), Tara <tsm@fastmail.ca> >>>>>>>>> wrote:Bill Maher was born to a Jewish mother and an Irish-Catholic father. He
Real Time Mat 15/26
https://youtu.be/BHOJCbRJu28?si=Vrol9ptbvlLK2Kka
Bill is great as always.
was raised in the Catholic faith but did not discover his Jewish >>>>>>>> heritage until he was a teenager. Today, he identifies as an atheist and
does not practice either religion
From a Buddhist perspective, you should hate nobody. Is that the >>>>>>>> baseline, or something else puts people over the edge?
I say the extremes don't define the conversation.
So, I've noticed you and Nick have not told both sides of the story, >>>>>>>> only opinions. You guys don't seem to be big on history.Did you notice that he tells both sides of the story?
And we certainly do not recognize you as any sort of expert on
anything at all.
Two extremists, one at each end: Noah thinks it's Biblical prophecy; >>>>>>>> Nick thinks it's genocide against the Arabs (refugees who went from 700
to a million population since 1947) and that Israel should be divided up
so everyone has at least 1 hectare.
And you would be knowing this how?
So not propaganda.
I told you how.
The interesting thing for me would be if you listened to what he said >>>>>>> and could tell me where he tells of hate for palestinians and their >>>>>>> persecution. It is easy to miss, so many who don't want to hear that >>>>>>> do not.What did Bill say? Can you sum it up in just a few words. Thanks. >>>>>>>
Bill deserves to be heard.
He sharply criticized both "woke" campus progressives and right-wing >>>>>> figures for using rhetoric that stokes antisemitism Like you and Nick. >>>>>
wear a Star of David pendant.
How about all those various female covering, except head, garments?
Does somebody object to those?
?
It's an epitomic category error.
my what a delicious big word. It means
Embodying, summarizing, encapsulating
epitomic category
Is that confusing enough?
I think julian wants to say that such garments are not in the same
category as the star of david. I disagree. The star of david is not
about female modesty, but beyond that both are clear religous symbols.
And probably get about the same level of tolerance from the rest of
us. Nothing overt, of course.
Noah Sombrero <fedora@fea.st> wrote:
On Sat, 16 May 2026 22:55:06 +0100, Julian <julianlzb87@gmail.com>
wrote:
On 16/05/2026 22:35, Tara wrote:
On May 16, 2026 at 5:16:07?PM EDT, "Noah Sombrero" <fedora@fea.st> wrote: >>>>
On Sat, 16 May 2026 20:17:19 -0000 (UTC), Tara <tsm@fastmail.ca>
wrote:
On May 16, 2026 at 3:13:17?PM EDT, "Dude" <punditster@gmail.com> wrote: >>>>>>
On 5/16/2026 8:50 AM, Noah Sombrero wrote:He also noted that you can wear a keffiyeh anywhere but Jews are now afraid to
On Sat, 16 May 2026 08:42:37 -0700, Dude <punditster@gmail.com> wrote: >>>>>>>>Bill Maher noted that the political far-left and far-right agree on >>>>>>> almost nothing, except for their animosity toward Israel and Jewish people.
On 5/16/2026 6:30 AM, Noah Sombrero wrote:
On Sat, 16 May 2026 13:08:49 -0000 (UTC), Tara <tsm@fastmail.ca> >>>>>>>>>> wrote:Bill Maher was born to a Jewish mother and an Irish-Catholic father. He
Real Time Mat 15/26
https://youtu.be/BHOJCbRJu28?si=Vrol9ptbvlLK2Kka
Bill is great as always.
was raised in the Catholic faith but did not discover his Jewish >>>>>>>>> heritage until he was a teenager. Today, he identifies as an atheist and
does not practice either religion
From a Buddhist perspective, you should hate nobody. Is that the >>>>>>>>> baseline, or something else puts people over the edge?
I say the extremes don't define the conversation.
So, I've noticed you and Nick have not told both sides of the story, >>>>>>>>> only opinions. You guys don't seem to be big on history.Did you notice that he tells both sides of the story?
And we certainly do not recognize you as any sort of expert on >>>>>>>> anything at all.
Two extremists, one at each end: Noah thinks it's Biblical prophecy; >>>>>>>>> Nick thinks it's genocide against the Arabs (refugees who went from 700
to a million population since 1947) and that Israel should be divided up
so everyone has at least 1 hectare.
And you would be knowing this how?
So not propaganda.
I told you how.
The interesting thing for me would be if you listened to what he said >>>>>>>> and could tell me where he tells of hate for palestinians and their >>>>>>>> persecution. It is easy to miss, so many who don't want to hear that >>>>>>>> do not.What did Bill say? Can you sum it up in just a few words. Thanks. >>>>>>>>
Bill deserves to be heard.
He sharply criticized both "woke" campus progressives and right-wing >>>>>>> figures for using rhetoric that stokes antisemitism Like you and Nick. >>>>>>
wear a Star of David pendant.
How about all those various female covering, except head, garments?
Does somebody object to those?
?
It's an epitomic category error.
my what a delicious big word. It means
Embodying, summarizing, encapsulating
epitomic category
Is that confusing enough?
I think julian wants to say that such garments are not in the same
category as the star of david. I disagree. The star of david is not
about female modesty, but beyond that both are clear religous symbols.
And probably get about the same level of tolerance from the rest of
us. Nothing overt, of course.
A keffiyeh is a scarf that is traditional to Palestinians and it has
nothing to do with female modesty or religious symbol.
Look it up!
On Sun, 17 May 2026 03:08:35 -0000 (UTC), Tara <tsm@fastmail.ca>
wrote:
Noah Sombrero <fedora@fea.st> wrote:
On Sat, 16 May 2026 22:55:06 +0100, Julian <julianlzb87@gmail.com>
wrote:
On 16/05/2026 22:35, Tara wrote:
On May 16, 2026 at 5:16:07?PM EDT, "Noah Sombrero" <fedora@fea.st> wrote: >>>>>
On Sat, 16 May 2026 20:17:19 -0000 (UTC), Tara <tsm@fastmail.ca>
wrote:
On May 16, 2026 at 3:13:17?PM EDT, "Dude" <punditster@gmail.com> wrote: >>>>>>>
On 5/16/2026 8:50 AM, Noah Sombrero wrote:He also noted that you can wear a keffiyeh anywhere but Jews are now afraid to
On Sat, 16 May 2026 08:42:37 -0700, Dude <punditster@gmail.com> wrote:Bill Maher noted that the political far-left and far-right agree on >>>>>>>> almost nothing, except for their animosity toward Israel and Jewish people.
On 5/16/2026 6:30 AM, Noah Sombrero wrote:
On Sat, 16 May 2026 13:08:49 -0000 (UTC), Tara <tsm@fastmail.ca> >>>>>>>>>>> wrote:Bill Maher was born to a Jewish mother and an Irish-Catholic father. He
Real Time Mat 15/26
https://youtu.be/BHOJCbRJu28?si=Vrol9ptbvlLK2Kka
Bill is great as always.
was raised in the Catholic faith but did not discover his Jewish >>>>>>>>>> heritage until he was a teenager. Today, he identifies as an atheist and
does not practice either religion
From a Buddhist perspective, you should hate nobody. Is that the >>>>>>>>>> baseline, or something else puts people over the edge?
I say the extremes don't define the conversation.
So, I've noticed you and Nick have not told both sides of the story, >>>>>>>>>> only opinions. You guys don't seem to be big on history.Did you notice that he tells both sides of the story?
And we certainly do not recognize you as any sort of expert on >>>>>>>>> anything at all.
Two extremists, one at each end: Noah thinks it's Biblical prophecy; >>>>>>>>>> Nick thinks it's genocide against the Arabs (refugees who went from 700
to a million population since 1947) and that Israel should be divided up
so everyone has at least 1 hectare.
And you would be knowing this how?
So not propaganda.
I told you how.
The interesting thing for me would be if you listened to what he said >>>>>>>>> and could tell me where he tells of hate for palestinians and their >>>>>>>>> persecution. It is easy to miss, so many who don't want to hear that >>>>>>>>> do not.What did Bill say? Can you sum it up in just a few words. Thanks. >>>>>>>>>
Bill deserves to be heard.
He sharply criticized both "woke" campus progressives and right-wing >>>>>>>> figures for using rhetoric that stokes antisemitism Like you and Nick. >>>>>>>
wear a Star of David pendant.
How about all those various female covering, except head, garments? >>>>>> Does somebody object to those?
?
It's an epitomic category error.
my what a delicious big word. It means
Embodying, summarizing, encapsulating
epitomic category
Is that confusing enough?
I think julian wants to say that such garments are not in the same
category as the star of david. I disagree. The star of david is not
about female modesty, but beyond that both are clear religous symbols.
And probably get about the same level of tolerance from the rest of
us. Nothing overt, of course.
A keffiyeh is a scarf that is traditional to Palestinians and it has
nothing to do with female modesty or religious symbol.
Look it up!
A scarf. So chances are most people would not know what they are
seeing. Not comparable to a star of david. I was reaching for
something that would compare.
Noah Sombrero <fedora@fea.st> wrote:
On Sun, 17 May 2026 03:08:35 -0000 (UTC), Tara <tsm@fastmail.ca>
wrote:
Noah Sombrero <fedora@fea.st> wrote:
On Sat, 16 May 2026 22:55:06 +0100, Julian <julianlzb87@gmail.com>
wrote:
On 16/05/2026 22:35, Tara wrote:
On May 16, 2026 at 5:16:07?PM EDT, "Noah Sombrero" <fedora@fea.st> wrote:
On Sat, 16 May 2026 20:17:19 -0000 (UTC), Tara <tsm@fastmail.ca> >>>>>>> wrote:
On May 16, 2026 at 3:13:17?PM EDT, "Dude" <punditster@gmail.com> wrote:
On 5/16/2026 8:50 AM, Noah Sombrero wrote:
On Sat, 16 May 2026 08:42:37 -0700, Dude <punditster@gmail.com> wrote:Bill Maher noted that the political far-left and far-right agree on >>>>>>>>> almost nothing, except for their animosity toward Israel and Jewish people.
On 5/16/2026 6:30 AM, Noah Sombrero wrote:
On Sat, 16 May 2026 13:08:49 -0000 (UTC), Tara <tsm@fastmail.ca> >>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:Bill Maher was born to a Jewish mother and an Irish-Catholic father. He
Real Time Mat 15/26
https://youtu.be/BHOJCbRJu28?si=Vrol9ptbvlLK2Kka
Bill is great as always.
was raised in the Catholic faith but did not discover his Jewish >>>>>>>>>>> heritage until he was a teenager. Today, he identifies as an atheist and
does not practice either religion
From a Buddhist perspective, you should hate nobody. Is that the >>>>>>>>>>> baseline, or something else puts people over the edge? >>>>>>>>>>>>> Did you notice that he tells both sides of the story? >>>>>>>>>>>>
I say the extremes don't define the conversation.
So, I've noticed you and Nick have not told both sides of the story,
only opinions. You guys don't seem to be big on history.
And we certainly do not recognize you as any sort of expert on >>>>>>>>>> anything at all.
Two extremists, one at each end: Noah thinks it's Biblical prophecy;
Nick thinks it's genocide against the Arabs (refugees who went from 700
to a million population since 1947) and that Israel should be divided up
so everyone has at least 1 hectare.
And you would be knowing this how?
So not propaganda.
I told you how.
The interesting thing for me would be if you listened to what he saidWhat did Bill say? Can you sum it up in just a few words. Thanks. >>>>>>>>>>
Bill deserves to be heard.
and could tell me where he tells of hate for palestinians and their >>>>>>>>>> persecution. It is easy to miss, so many who don't want to hear that
do not.
He sharply criticized both "woke" campus progressives and right-wing >>>>>>>>> figures for using rhetoric that stokes antisemitism Like you and Nick.
He also noted that you can wear a keffiyeh anywhere but Jews are now afraid to
wear a Star of David pendant.
How about all those various female covering, except head, garments? >>>>>>> Does somebody object to those?
?
It's an epitomic category error.
my what a delicious big word. It means
Embodying, summarizing, encapsulating
epitomic category
Is that confusing enough?
I think julian wants to say that such garments are not in the same
category as the star of david. I disagree. The star of david is not
about female modesty, but beyond that both are clear religous symbols. >>>> And probably get about the same level of tolerance from the rest of
us. Nothing overt, of course.
A keffiyeh is a scarf that is traditional to Palestinians and it has
nothing to do with female modesty or religious symbol.
Look it up!
A scarf. So chances are most people would not know what they are
seeing. Not comparable to a star of david. I was reaching for
something that would compare.
ItAs a symbol of Palestinian nationalism and is warn by activists to show >support for Palestinians
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Palestinian_keffiyeh
On Sun, 17 May 2026 12:02:29 -0000 (UTC), Tara <tsm@fastmail.ca>
wrote:
Noah Sombrero <fedora@fea.st> wrote:
On Sun, 17 May 2026 03:08:35 -0000 (UTC), Tara <tsm@fastmail.ca>
wrote:
Noah Sombrero <fedora@fea.st> wrote:
On Sat, 16 May 2026 22:55:06 +0100, Julian <julianlzb87@gmail.com>
wrote:
On 16/05/2026 22:35, Tara wrote:
On May 16, 2026 at 5:16:07?PM EDT, "Noah Sombrero" <fedora@fea.st> wrote:
On Sat, 16 May 2026 20:17:19 -0000 (UTC), Tara <tsm@fastmail.ca> >>>>>>>> wrote:
On May 16, 2026 at 3:13:17?PM EDT, "Dude" <punditster@gmail.com> wrote:
On 5/16/2026 8:50 AM, Noah Sombrero wrote:
On Sat, 16 May 2026 08:42:37 -0700, Dude <punditster@gmail.com> wrote:Bill Maher noted that the political far-left and far-right agree on >>>>>>>>>> almost nothing, except for their animosity toward Israel and Jewish people.
On 5/16/2026 6:30 AM, Noah Sombrero wrote:And we certainly do not recognize you as any sort of expert on >>>>>>>>>>> anything at all.
On Sat, 16 May 2026 13:08:49 -0000 (UTC), Tara <tsm@fastmail.ca> >>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:Bill Maher was born to a Jewish mother and an Irish-Catholic father. He
Real Time Mat 15/26
https://youtu.be/BHOJCbRJu28?si=Vrol9ptbvlLK2Kka
Bill is great as always.
was raised in the Catholic faith but did not discover his Jewish >>>>>>>>>>>> heritage until he was a teenager. Today, he identifies as an atheist and
does not practice either religion
From a Buddhist perspective, you should hate nobody. Is that the >>>>>>>>>>>> baseline, or something else puts people over the edge? >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Did you notice that he tells both sides of the story? >>>>>>>>>>>>>
I say the extremes don't define the conversation.
So, I've noticed you and Nick have not told both sides of the story,
only opinions. You guys don't seem to be big on history. >>>>>>>>>>>
Two extremists, one at each end: Noah thinks it's Biblical prophecy;
Nick thinks it's genocide against the Arabs (refugees who went from 700
to a million population since 1947) and that Israel should be divided up
so everyone has at least 1 hectare.
And you would be knowing this how?
So not propaganda.
I told you how.
The interesting thing for me would be if you listened to what he saidWhat did Bill say? Can you sum it up in just a few words. Thanks. >>>>>>>>>>>
Bill deserves to be heard.
and could tell me where he tells of hate for palestinians and their >>>>>>>>>>> persecution. It is easy to miss, so many who don't want to hear that
do not.
He sharply criticized both "woke" campus progressives and right-wing >>>>>>>>>> figures for using rhetoric that stokes antisemitism Like you and Nick.
He also noted that you can wear a keffiyeh anywhere but Jews are now afraid to
wear a Star of David pendant.
How about all those various female covering, except head, garments? >>>>>>>> Does somebody object to those?
?
It's an epitomic category error.
my what a delicious big word. It means
Embodying, summarizing, encapsulating
epitomic category
Is that confusing enough?
I think julian wants to say that such garments are not in the same
category as the star of david. I disagree. The star of david is not >>>>> about female modesty, but beyond that both are clear religous symbols. >>>>> And probably get about the same level of tolerance from the rest of
us. Nothing overt, of course.
A keffiyeh is a scarf that is traditional to Palestinians and it has
nothing to do with female modesty or religious symbol.
Look it up!
A scarf. So chances are most people would not know what they are
seeing. Not comparable to a star of david. I was reaching for
something that would compare.
It-As a symbol of Palestinian nationalism and is warn by activists to show >> support for Palestinians
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Palestinian_keffiyeh
Thanks. The point is that without wiki, few people would know the significance.
On May 17, 2026 at 9:28:13?AM EDT, "Noah Sombrero" <fedora@fea.st> wrote:
On Sun, 17 May 2026 12:02:29 -0000 (UTC), Tara <tsm@fastmail.ca>
wrote:
Noah Sombrero <fedora@fea.st> wrote:
On Sun, 17 May 2026 03:08:35 -0000 (UTC), Tara <tsm@fastmail.ca>
wrote:
Noah Sombrero <fedora@fea.st> wrote:
On Sat, 16 May 2026 22:55:06 +0100, Julian <julianlzb87@gmail.com> >>>>>> wrote:
On 16/05/2026 22:35, Tara wrote:
On May 16, 2026 at 5:16:07?PM EDT, "Noah Sombrero" <fedora@fea.st> wrote:
On Sat, 16 May 2026 20:17:19 -0000 (UTC), Tara <tsm@fastmail.ca> >>>>>>>>> wrote:
On May 16, 2026 at 3:13:17?PM EDT, "Dude" <punditster@gmail.com> wrote:
On 5/16/2026 8:50 AM, Noah Sombrero wrote:
On Sat, 16 May 2026 08:42:37 -0700, Dude <punditster@gmail.com> wrote:Bill Maher noted that the political far-left and far-right agree on >>>>>>>>>>> almost nothing, except for their animosity toward Israel and Jewish people.
On 5/16/2026 6:30 AM, Noah Sombrero wrote:And we certainly do not recognize you as any sort of expert on >>>>>>>>>>>> anything at all.
On Sat, 16 May 2026 13:08:49 -0000 (UTC), Tara <tsm@fastmail.ca> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:Bill Maher was born to a Jewish mother and an Irish-Catholic father. He
Real Time Mat 15/26
https://youtu.be/BHOJCbRJu28?si=Vrol9ptbvlLK2Kka
Bill is great as always.
was raised in the Catholic faith but did not discover his Jewish >>>>>>>>>>>>> heritage until he was a teenager. Today, he identifies as an atheist and
does not practice either religion
From a Buddhist perspective, you should hate nobody. Is that the >>>>>>>>>>>>> baseline, or something else puts people over the edge? >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Did you notice that he tells both sides of the story? >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
I say the extremes don't define the conversation.
So, I've noticed you and Nick have not told both sides of the story,
only opinions. You guys don't seem to be big on history. >>>>>>>>>>>>
Two extremists, one at each end: Noah thinks it's Biblical prophecy;
Nick thinks it's genocide against the Arabs (refugees who went from 700
to a million population since 1947) and that Israel should be divided up
so everyone has at least 1 hectare.
And you would be knowing this how?
So not propaganda.
I told you how.
The interesting thing for me would be if you listened to what he saidWhat did Bill say? Can you sum it up in just a few words. Thanks. >>>>>>>>>>>>
Bill deserves to be heard.
and could tell me where he tells of hate for palestinians and their
persecution. It is easy to miss, so many who don't want to hear that
do not.
He sharply criticized both "woke" campus progressives and right-wing
figures for using rhetoric that stokes antisemitism Like you and Nick.
He also noted that you can wear a keffiyeh anywhere but Jews are now afraid to
wear a Star of David pendant.
How about all those various female covering, except head, garments? >>>>>>>>> Does somebody object to those?
?
It's an epitomic category error.
my what a delicious big word. It means
Embodying, summarizing, encapsulating
epitomic category
Is that confusing enough?
I think julian wants to say that such garments are not in the same >>>>>> category as the star of david. I disagree. The star of david is not >>>>>> about female modesty, but beyond that both are clear religous symbols. >>>>>> And probably get about the same level of tolerance from the rest of >>>>>> us. Nothing overt, of course.
A keffiyeh is a scarf that is traditional to Palestinians and it has >>>>> nothing to do with female modesty or religious symbol.
Look it up!
A scarf. So chances are most people would not know what they are
seeing. Not comparable to a star of david. I was reaching for
something that would compare.
It?s a symbol of Palestinian nationalism and is warn by activists to show >>> support for Palestinians
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Palestinian_keffiyeh
Thanks. The point is that without wiki, few people would know the
significance.
At this point, I'm sure almost everyone knows the significance :)
On May 17, 2026 at 9:28:13rC>AM EDT, "Noah Sombrero" <fedora@fea.st> wrote:
On Sun, 17 May 2026 12:02:29 -0000 (UTC), Tara <tsm@fastmail.ca>
wrote:
Noah Sombrero <fedora@fea.st> wrote:
On Sun, 17 May 2026 03:08:35 -0000 (UTC), Tara <tsm@fastmail.ca>
wrote:
Noah Sombrero <fedora@fea.st> wrote:
On Sat, 16 May 2026 22:55:06 +0100, Julian <julianlzb87@gmail.com> >>>>>> wrote:
On 16/05/2026 22:35, Tara wrote:
On May 16, 2026 at 5:16:07?PM EDT, "Noah Sombrero" <fedora@fea.st> wrote:
On Sat, 16 May 2026 20:17:19 -0000 (UTC), Tara <tsm@fastmail.ca> >>>>>>>>> wrote:
On May 16, 2026 at 3:13:17?PM EDT, "Dude" <punditster@gmail.com> wrote:
On 5/16/2026 8:50 AM, Noah Sombrero wrote:
On Sat, 16 May 2026 08:42:37 -0700, Dude <punditster@gmail.com> wrote:Bill Maher noted that the political far-left and far-right agree on >>>>>>>>>>> almost nothing, except for their animosity toward Israel and Jewish people.
On 5/16/2026 6:30 AM, Noah Sombrero wrote:And we certainly do not recognize you as any sort of expert on >>>>>>>>>>>> anything at all.
On Sat, 16 May 2026 13:08:49 -0000 (UTC), Tara <tsm@fastmail.ca> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:Bill Maher was born to a Jewish mother and an Irish-Catholic father. He
Real Time Mat 15/26
https://youtu.be/BHOJCbRJu28?si=Vrol9ptbvlLK2Kka
Bill is great as always.
was raised in the Catholic faith but did not discover his Jewish >>>>>>>>>>>>> heritage until he was a teenager. Today, he identifies as an atheist and
does not practice either religion
From a Buddhist perspective, you should hate nobody. Is that the >>>>>>>>>>>>> baseline, or something else puts people over the edge? >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Did you notice that he tells both sides of the story? >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
I say the extremes don't define the conversation.
So, I've noticed you and Nick have not told both sides of the story,
only opinions. You guys don't seem to be big on history. >>>>>>>>>>>>
Two extremists, one at each end: Noah thinks it's Biblical prophecy;
Nick thinks it's genocide against the Arabs (refugees who went from 700
to a million population since 1947) and that Israel should be divided up
so everyone has at least 1 hectare.
And you would be knowing this how?
So not propaganda.
I told you how.
The interesting thing for me would be if you listened to what he saidWhat did Bill say? Can you sum it up in just a few words. Thanks. >>>>>>>>>>>>
Bill deserves to be heard.
and could tell me where he tells of hate for palestinians and their
persecution. It is easy to miss, so many who don't want to hear that
do not.
He sharply criticized both "woke" campus progressives and right-wing
figures for using rhetoric that stokes antisemitism Like you and Nick.
He also noted that you can wear a keffiyeh anywhere but Jews are now afraid to
wear a Star of David pendant.
How about all those various female covering, except head, garments? >>>>>>>>> Does somebody object to those?
?
It's an epitomic category error.
my what a delicious big word. It means
Embodying, summarizing, encapsulating
epitomic category
Is that confusing enough?
I think julian wants to say that such garments are not in the same >>>>>> category as the star of david. I disagree. The star of david is not >>>>>> about female modesty, but beyond that both are clear religous symbols. >>>>>> And probably get about the same level of tolerance from the rest of >>>>>> us. Nothing overt, of course.
A keffiyeh is a scarf that is traditional to Palestinians and it has >>>>> nothing to do with female modesty or religious symbol.
Look it up!
A scarf. So chances are most people would not know what they are
seeing. Not comparable to a star of david. I was reaching for
something that would compare.
It-As a symbol of Palestinian nationalism and is warn by activists to show >>> support for Palestinians
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Palestinian_keffiyeh
Thanks. The point is that without wiki, few people would know the
significance.
At this point, I'm sure almost everyone knows the significance :)
On May 17, 2026 at 9:28:13rC>AM EDT, "Noah Sombrero" <fedora@fea.st> wrote:
On Sun, 17 May 2026 12:02:29 -0000 (UTC), Tara <tsm@fastmail.ca>
wrote:
Noah Sombrero <fedora@fea.st> wrote:
On Sun, 17 May 2026 03:08:35 -0000 (UTC), Tara <tsm@fastmail.ca>
wrote:
Noah Sombrero <fedora@fea.st> wrote:
On Sat, 16 May 2026 22:55:06 +0100, Julian <julianlzb87@gmail.com> >>>>>> wrote:
On 16/05/2026 22:35, Tara wrote:
On May 16, 2026 at 5:16:07?PM EDT, "Noah Sombrero" <fedora@fea.st> wrote:
On Sat, 16 May 2026 20:17:19 -0000 (UTC), Tara <tsm@fastmail.ca> >>>>>>>>> wrote:
On May 16, 2026 at 3:13:17?PM EDT, "Dude" <punditster@gmail.com> wrote:
On 5/16/2026 8:50 AM, Noah Sombrero wrote:
On Sat, 16 May 2026 08:42:37 -0700, Dude <punditster@gmail.com> wrote:Bill Maher noted that the political far-left and far-right agree on >>>>>>>>>>> almost nothing, except for their animosity toward Israel and Jewish people.
On 5/16/2026 6:30 AM, Noah Sombrero wrote:And we certainly do not recognize you as any sort of expert on >>>>>>>>>>>> anything at all.
On Sat, 16 May 2026 13:08:49 -0000 (UTC), Tara <tsm@fastmail.ca> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:Bill Maher was born to a Jewish mother and an Irish-Catholic father. He
Real Time Mat 15/26
https://youtu.be/BHOJCbRJu28?si=Vrol9ptbvlLK2Kka
Bill is great as always.
was raised in the Catholic faith but did not discover his Jewish >>>>>>>>>>>>> heritage until he was a teenager. Today, he identifies as an atheist and
does not practice either religion
From a Buddhist perspective, you should hate nobody. Is that the >>>>>>>>>>>>> baseline, or something else puts people over the edge? >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Did you notice that he tells both sides of the story? >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
I say the extremes don't define the conversation.
So, I've noticed you and Nick have not told both sides of the story,
only opinions. You guys don't seem to be big on history. >>>>>>>>>>>>
Two extremists, one at each end: Noah thinks it's Biblical prophecy;
Nick thinks it's genocide against the Arabs (refugees who went from 700
to a million population since 1947) and that Israel should be divided up
so everyone has at least 1 hectare.
And you would be knowing this how?
So not propaganda.
I told you how.
The interesting thing for me would be if you listened to what he saidWhat did Bill say? Can you sum it up in just a few words. Thanks. >>>>>>>>>>>>
Bill deserves to be heard.
and could tell me where he tells of hate for palestinians and their
persecution. It is easy to miss, so many who don't want to hear that
do not.
He sharply criticized both "woke" campus progressives and right-wing
figures for using rhetoric that stokes antisemitism Like you and Nick.
He also noted that you can wear a keffiyeh anywhere but Jews are now afraid to
wear a Star of David pendant.
How about all those various female covering, except head, garments? >>>>>>>>> Does somebody object to those?
?
It's an epitomic category error.
my what a delicious big word. It means
Embodying, summarizing, encapsulating
epitomic category
Is that confusing enough?
I think julian wants to say that such garments are not in the same >>>>>> category as the star of david. I disagree. The star of david is not >>>>>> about female modesty, but beyond that both are clear religous symbols. >>>>>> And probably get about the same level of tolerance from the rest of >>>>>> us. Nothing overt, of course.
A keffiyeh is a scarf that is traditional to Palestinians and it has >>>>> nothing to do with female modesty or religious symbol.
Look it up!
A scarf. So chances are most people would not know what they are
seeing. Not comparable to a star of david. I was reaching for
something that would compare.
It-As a symbol of Palestinian nationalism and is warn by activists to show >>> support for Palestinians
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Palestinian_keffiyeh
Thanks. The point is that without wiki, few people would know the
significance.
At this point, I'm sure almost everyone knows the significance :)
On 17/05/2026 14:42, Tara wrote:
On May 17, 2026 at 9:28:13rC>AM EDT, "Noah Sombrero" <fedora@fea.st> wrote: >>
On Sun, 17 May 2026 12:02:29 -0000 (UTC), Tara <tsm@fastmail.ca>
wrote:
Noah Sombrero <fedora@fea.st> wrote:
On Sun, 17 May 2026 03:08:35 -0000 (UTC), Tara <tsm@fastmail.ca>
wrote:
Noah Sombrero <fedora@fea.st> wrote:
On Sat, 16 May 2026 22:55:06 +0100, Julian <julianlzb87@gmail.com> >>>>>>> wrote:
On 16/05/2026 22:35, Tara wrote:
On May 16, 2026 at 5:16:07?PM EDT, "Noah Sombrero" <fedora@fea.st> wrote:
On Sat, 16 May 2026 20:17:19 -0000 (UTC), Tara <tsm@fastmail.ca> >>>>>>>>>> wrote:
On May 16, 2026 at 3:13:17?PM EDT, "Dude" <punditster@gmail.com> wrote:
On 5/16/2026 8:50 AM, Noah Sombrero wrote:
On Sat, 16 May 2026 08:42:37 -0700, Dude <punditster@gmail.com> wrote:Bill Maher noted that the political far-left and far-right agree on
On 5/16/2026 6:30 AM, Noah Sombrero wrote:And we certainly do not recognize you as any sort of expert on >>>>>>>>>>>>> anything at all.
On Sat, 16 May 2026 13:08:49 -0000 (UTC), Tara <tsm@fastmail.ca>Bill Maher was born to a Jewish mother and an Irish-Catholic father. He
wrote:
Real Time Mat 15/26Bill is great as always.
https://youtu.be/BHOJCbRJu28?si=Vrol9ptbvlLK2Kka >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
was raised in the Catholic faith but did not discover his Jewish >>>>>>>>>>>>>> heritage until he was a teenager. Today, he identifies as an atheist and
does not practice either religion
From a Buddhist perspective, you should hate nobody. Is that the
I say the extremes don't define the conversation. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
baseline, or something else puts people over the edge? >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Did you notice that he tells both sides of the story? >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
So, I've noticed you and Nick have not told both sides of the story,
only opinions. You guys don't seem to be big on history. >>>>>>>>>>>>>
Two extremists, one at each end: Noah thinks it's Biblical prophecy;
Nick thinks it's genocide against the Arabs (refugees who went from 700
to a million population since 1947) and that Israel should be divided up
so everyone has at least 1 hectare.
And you would be knowing this how?
So not propaganda.
I told you how.
What did Bill say? Can you sum it up in just a few words. Thanks.
Bill deserves to be heard.
The interesting thing for me would be if you listened to what he said
and could tell me where he tells of hate for palestinians and their
persecution. It is easy to miss, so many who don't want to hear that
do not.
almost nothing, except for their animosity toward Israel and Jewish people.
He sharply criticized both "woke" campus progressives and right-wing
figures for using rhetoric that stokes antisemitism Like you and Nick.
He also noted that you can wear a keffiyeh anywhere but Jews are now afraid to
wear a Star of David pendant.
How about all those various female covering, except head, garments? >>>>>>>>>> Does somebody object to those?
?
It's an epitomic category error.
my what a delicious big word. It means
Embodying, summarizing, encapsulating
epitomic category
Is that confusing enough?
I think julian wants to say that such garments are not in the same >>>>>>> category as the star of david. I disagree. The star of david is not >>>>>>> about female modesty, but beyond that both are clear religous symbols. >>>>>>> And probably get about the same level of tolerance from the rest of >>>>>>> us. Nothing overt, of course.
A keffiyeh is a scarf that is traditional to Palestinians and it has >>>>>> nothing to do with female modesty or religious symbol.
Look it up!
A scarf. So chances are most people would not know what they are
seeing. Not comparable to a star of david. I was reaching for
something that would compare.
It-As a symbol of Palestinian nationalism and is warn by activists to show >>>> support for Palestinians
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Palestinian_keffiyeh
Thanks. The point is that without wiki, few people would know the
significance.
At this point, I'm sure almost everyone knows the significance :)
A significance is that, unlike Jews and the Star of David, relatively
few Muslims, in their Niqab/Hijab/Burka/Chador/Duppata or the Muslim
adjacent with their Keffiyehs, literally fear for their lives if
they dare wear an indicator towards their faith/ideology in public.
On 17/05/2026 14:42, Tara wrote:
On May 17, 2026 at 9:28:13?AM EDT, "Noah Sombrero" <fedora@fea.st> wrote:
On Sun, 17 May 2026 12:02:29 -0000 (UTC), Tara <tsm@fastmail.ca>
wrote:
Noah Sombrero <fedora@fea.st> wrote:
On Sun, 17 May 2026 03:08:35 -0000 (UTC), Tara <tsm@fastmail.ca>
wrote:
Noah Sombrero <fedora@fea.st> wrote:
On Sat, 16 May 2026 22:55:06 +0100, Julian <julianlzb87@gmail.com> >>>>>>> wrote:
On 16/05/2026 22:35, Tara wrote:
On May 16, 2026 at 5:16:07?PM EDT, "Noah Sombrero" <fedora@fea.st> wrote:
On Sat, 16 May 2026 20:17:19 -0000 (UTC), Tara <tsm@fastmail.ca> >>>>>>>>>> wrote:
On May 16, 2026 at 3:13:17?PM EDT, "Dude" <punditster@gmail.com> wrote:
On 5/16/2026 8:50 AM, Noah Sombrero wrote:
On Sat, 16 May 2026 08:42:37 -0700, Dude <punditster@gmail.com> wrote:Bill Maher noted that the political far-left and far-right agree on
On 5/16/2026 6:30 AM, Noah Sombrero wrote:And we certainly do not recognize you as any sort of expert on >>>>>>>>>>>>> anything at all.
On Sat, 16 May 2026 13:08:49 -0000 (UTC), Tara <tsm@fastmail.ca>Bill Maher was born to a Jewish mother and an Irish-Catholic father. He
wrote:
Real Time Mat 15/26Bill is great as always.
https://youtu.be/BHOJCbRJu28?si=Vrol9ptbvlLK2Kka >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
was raised in the Catholic faith but did not discover his Jewish >>>>>>>>>>>>>> heritage until he was a teenager. Today, he identifies as an atheist and
does not practice either religion
From a Buddhist perspective, you should hate nobody. Is that the
I say the extremes don't define the conversation. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
baseline, or something else puts people over the edge? >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Did you notice that he tells both sides of the story? >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
So, I've noticed you and Nick have not told both sides of the story,
only opinions. You guys don't seem to be big on history. >>>>>>>>>>>>>
Two extremists, one at each end: Noah thinks it's Biblical prophecy;
Nick thinks it's genocide against the Arabs (refugees who went from 700
to a million population since 1947) and that Israel should be divided up
so everyone has at least 1 hectare.
And you would be knowing this how?
So not propaganda.
I told you how.
What did Bill say? Can you sum it up in just a few words. Thanks.
Bill deserves to be heard.
The interesting thing for me would be if you listened to what he said
and could tell me where he tells of hate for palestinians and their
persecution. It is easy to miss, so many who don't want to hear that
do not.
almost nothing, except for their animosity toward Israel and Jewish people.
He sharply criticized both "woke" campus progressives and right-wing
figures for using rhetoric that stokes antisemitism Like you and Nick.
He also noted that you can wear a keffiyeh anywhere but Jews are now afraid to
wear a Star of David pendant.
How about all those various female covering, except head, garments? >>>>>>>>>> Does somebody object to those?
?
It's an epitomic category error.
my what a delicious big word. It means
Embodying, summarizing, encapsulating
epitomic category
Is that confusing enough?
I think julian wants to say that such garments are not in the same >>>>>>> category as the star of david. I disagree. The star of david is not >>>>>>> about female modesty, but beyond that both are clear religous symbols. >>>>>>> And probably get about the same level of tolerance from the rest of >>>>>>> us. Nothing overt, of course.
A keffiyeh is a scarf that is traditional to Palestinians and it has >>>>>> nothing to do with female modesty or religious symbol.
Look it up!
A scarf. So chances are most people would not know what they are
seeing. Not comparable to a star of david. I was reaching for
something that would compare.
It?s a symbol of Palestinian nationalism and is warn by activists to show >>>> support for Palestinians
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Palestinian_keffiyeh
Thanks. The point is that without wiki, few people would know the
significance.
At this point, I'm sure almost everyone knows the significance :)
A significance is that, unlike Jews and the Star of David, relatively
few Muslims, in their Niqab/Hijab/Burka/Chador/Duppata or the Muslim
adjacent with their Keffiyehs, literally fear for their lives if
they dare wear an indicator towards their faith/ideology in public.
is this title some reference to joos owning so much of the media for so >long??? and heck it's /still/ going on ...
i mean fuck duds just look at top global social media -
facebook - joo
youtube - joos
whatsapp - joo (no public discourse)
instagram - joo
tiktok - china, but us operations managed by joo
wechat - china
messanger - joo (no public discourse)
telegram - russian (no public discourse)
linkedin - bought by joo founded company
snapchat - not actually joo (no public discourse)
reddit - bought by joos
douyin - china
kuaishou - china
x - bought by "aspirational joo" with majority joo friends
weibo - china
pinterest - joo founder
how in the fuck does 0.2% of the global population have it's fucking
grubby hands all over so much of social media??? i'm supposed to believe >this was the /just/ the result of mUh FrEe MaRkEt, eh???
> that's what u fking sheeple believe, eh??? ???
>
> #god
On Sat, 16 May 2026 22:55:06 +0100, Julian <julianlzb87@gmail.com>
wrote:
On 16/05/2026 22:35, Tara wrote:
On May 16, 2026 at 5:16:07?PM EDT, "Noah Sombrero" <fedora@fea.st> wrote: >>>
On Sat, 16 May 2026 20:17:19 -0000 (UTC), Tara <tsm@fastmail.ca>
wrote:
On May 16, 2026 at 3:13:17?PM EDT, "Dude" <punditster@gmail.com> wrote: >>>>>
On 5/16/2026 8:50 AM, Noah Sombrero wrote:He also noted that you can wear a keffiyeh anywhere but Jews are now afraid to
On Sat, 16 May 2026 08:42:37 -0700, Dude <punditster@gmail.com> wrote: >>>>>>>Bill Maher noted that the political far-left and far-right agree on >>>>>> almost nothing, except for their animosity toward Israel and Jewish people.
On 5/16/2026 6:30 AM, Noah Sombrero wrote:
On Sat, 16 May 2026 13:08:49 -0000 (UTC), Tara <tsm@fastmail.ca> >>>>>>>>> wrote:Bill Maher was born to a Jewish mother and an Irish-Catholic father. He
Real Time Mat 15/26
https://youtu.be/BHOJCbRJu28?si=Vrol9ptbvlLK2Kka
Bill is great as always.
was raised in the Catholic faith but did not discover his Jewish >>>>>>>> heritage until he was a teenager. Today, he identifies as an atheist and
does not practice either religion
From a Buddhist perspective, you should hate nobody. Is that the >>>>>>>> baseline, or something else puts people over the edge?
I say the extremes don't define the conversation.
So, I've noticed you and Nick have not told both sides of the story, >>>>>>>> only opinions. You guys don't seem to be big on history.Did you notice that he tells both sides of the story?
And we certainly do not recognize you as any sort of expert on
anything at all.
Two extremists, one at each end: Noah thinks it's Biblical prophecy; >>>>>>>> Nick thinks it's genocide against the Arabs (refugees who went from 700
to a million population since 1947) and that Israel should be divided up
so everyone has at least 1 hectare.
And you would be knowing this how?
So not propaganda.
I told you how.
The interesting thing for me would be if you listened to what he said >>>>>>> and could tell me where he tells of hate for palestinians and their >>>>>>> persecution. It is easy to miss, so many who don't want to hear that >>>>>>> do not.What did Bill say? Can you sum it up in just a few words. Thanks. >>>>>>>
Bill deserves to be heard.
He sharply criticized both "woke" campus progressives and right-wing >>>>>> figures for using rhetoric that stokes antisemitism Like you and Nick. >>>>>
wear a Star of David pendant.
How about all those various female covering, except head, garments?
Does somebody object to those?
?
It's an epitomic category error.
my what a delicious big word. It means
Embodying, summarizing, encapsulating
epitomic category
Is that confusing enough?
I think julian wants to say that such garments are not in the same
category as the star of david. I disagree. The star of david is not
about female modesty, but beyond that both are clear religous symbols.
And probably get about the same level of tolerance from the rest of
us. Nothing overt, of course.
Noah Sombrero <fedora@fea.st> wrote:religious sects: for men a rag rolled up and for women a head scarf.
On Sat, 16 May 2026 22:55:06 +0100, Julian <julianlzb87@gmail.com>
wrote:
On 16/05/2026 22:35, Tara wrote:
On May 16, 2026 at 5:16:07?PM EDT, "Noah Sombrero" <fedora@fea.st> wrote: >>>>
On Sat, 16 May 2026 20:17:19 -0000 (UTC), Tara <tsm@fastmail.ca>
wrote:
On May 16, 2026 at 3:13:17?PM EDT, "Dude" <punditster@gmail.com> wrote: >>>>>>
On 5/16/2026 8:50 AM, Noah Sombrero wrote:He also noted that you can wear a keffiyeh anywhere but Jews are now afraid to
On Sat, 16 May 2026 08:42:37 -0700, Dude <punditster@gmail.com> wrote: >>>>>>>>Bill Maher noted that the political far-left and far-right agree on >>>>>>> almost nothing, except for their animosity toward Israel and Jewish people.
On 5/16/2026 6:30 AM, Noah Sombrero wrote:
On Sat, 16 May 2026 13:08:49 -0000 (UTC), Tara <tsm@fastmail.ca> >>>>>>>>>> wrote:Bill Maher was born to a Jewish mother and an Irish-Catholic father. He
Real Time Mat 15/26
https://youtu.be/BHOJCbRJu28?si=Vrol9ptbvlLK2Kka
Bill is great as always.
was raised in the Catholic faith but did not discover his Jewish >>>>>>>>> heritage until he was a teenager. Today, he identifies as an atheist and
does not practice either religion
From a Buddhist perspective, you should hate nobody. Is that the >>>>>>>>> baseline, or something else puts people over the edge?
I say the extremes don't define the conversation.
So, I've noticed you and Nick have not told both sides of the story, >>>>>>>>> only opinions. You guys don't seem to be big on history.Did you notice that he tells both sides of the story?
And we certainly do not recognize you as any sort of expert on >>>>>>>> anything at all.
Two extremists, one at each end: Noah thinks it's Biblical prophecy; >>>>>>>>> Nick thinks it's genocide against the Arabs (refugees who went from 700
to a million population since 1947) and that Israel should be divided up
so everyone has at least 1 hectare.
And you would be knowing this how?
So not propaganda.
I told you how.
The interesting thing for me would be if you listened to what he said >>>>>>>> and could tell me where he tells of hate for palestinians and their >>>>>>>> persecution. It is easy to miss, so many who don't want to hear that >>>>>>>> do not.What did Bill say? Can you sum it up in just a few words. Thanks. >>>>>>>>
Bill deserves to be heard.
He sharply criticized both "woke" campus progressives and right-wing >>>>>>> figures for using rhetoric that stokes antisemitism Like you and Nick. >>>>>>
wear a Star of David pendant.
How about all those various female covering, except head, garments?
Does somebody object to those?
?
It's an epitomic category error.
my what a delicious big word. It means
Embodying, summarizing, encapsulating
epitomic category
Is that confusing enough?
I think julian wants to say that such garments are not in the same
category as the star of david. I disagree. The star of david is not
about female modesty, but beyond that both are clear religous symbols.
And probably get about the same level of tolerance from the rest of
us. Nothing overt, of course.
A keffiyeh is a scarf that is traditional to Palestinians and it has
nothing to do with female modesty or religious symbol.
Look it up!
Apparently, a head covering is worn by both men and women of various
On Sun, 17 May 2026 03:08:35 -0000 (UTC), Tara <tsm@fastmail.ca>
wrote:
Noah Sombrero <fedora@fea.st> wrote:
On Sat, 16 May 2026 22:55:06 +0100, Julian <julianlzb87@gmail.com>
wrote:
On 16/05/2026 22:35, Tara wrote:
On May 16, 2026 at 5:16:07?PM EDT, "Noah Sombrero" <fedora@fea.st> wrote: >>>>>
On Sat, 16 May 2026 20:17:19 -0000 (UTC), Tara <tsm@fastmail.ca>
wrote:
On May 16, 2026 at 3:13:17?PM EDT, "Dude" <punditster@gmail.com> wrote: >>>>>>>
On 5/16/2026 8:50 AM, Noah Sombrero wrote:He also noted that you can wear a keffiyeh anywhere but Jews are now afraid to
On Sat, 16 May 2026 08:42:37 -0700, Dude <punditster@gmail.com> wrote:Bill Maher noted that the political far-left and far-right agree on >>>>>>>> almost nothing, except for their animosity toward Israel and Jewish people.
On 5/16/2026 6:30 AM, Noah Sombrero wrote:
On Sat, 16 May 2026 13:08:49 -0000 (UTC), Tara <tsm@fastmail.ca> >>>>>>>>>>> wrote:Bill Maher was born to a Jewish mother and an Irish-Catholic father. He
Real Time Mat 15/26
https://youtu.be/BHOJCbRJu28?si=Vrol9ptbvlLK2Kka
Bill is great as always.
was raised in the Catholic faith but did not discover his Jewish >>>>>>>>>> heritage until he was a teenager. Today, he identifies as an atheist and
does not practice either religion
From a Buddhist perspective, you should hate nobody. Is that the >>>>>>>>>> baseline, or something else puts people over the edge?
I say the extremes don't define the conversation.
So, I've noticed you and Nick have not told both sides of the story, >>>>>>>>>> only opinions. You guys don't seem to be big on history.Did you notice that he tells both sides of the story?
And we certainly do not recognize you as any sort of expert on >>>>>>>>> anything at all.
Two extremists, one at each end: Noah thinks it's Biblical prophecy; >>>>>>>>>> Nick thinks it's genocide against the Arabs (refugees who went from 700
to a million population since 1947) and that Israel should be divided up
so everyone has at least 1 hectare.
And you would be knowing this how?
So not propaganda.
I told you how.
The interesting thing for me would be if you listened to what he said >>>>>>>>> and could tell me where he tells of hate for palestinians and their >>>>>>>>> persecution. It is easy to miss, so many who don't want to hear that >>>>>>>>> do not.What did Bill say? Can you sum it up in just a few words. Thanks. >>>>>>>>>
Bill deserves to be heard.
He sharply criticized both "woke" campus progressives and right-wing >>>>>>>> figures for using rhetoric that stokes antisemitism Like you and Nick. >>>>>>>
wear a Star of David pendant.
How about all those various female covering, except head, garments? >>>>>> Does somebody object to those?
?
It's an epitomic category error.
my what a delicious big word. It means
Embodying, summarizing, encapsulating
epitomic category
Is that confusing enough?
I think julian wants to say that such garments are not in the same
category as the star of david. I disagree. The star of david is not
about female modesty, but beyond that both are clear religous symbols.
And probably get about the same level of tolerance from the rest of
us. Nothing overt, of course.
A keffiyeh is a scarf that is traditional to Palestinians and it has
nothing to do with female modesty or religious symbol.
Look it up!
A scarf. So chances are most people would not know what they are
seeing. Not comparable to a star of david. I was reaching for
something that would compare.
Noah Sombrero <fedora@fea.st> wrote:
On Sun, 17 May 2026 03:08:35 -0000 (UTC), Tara <tsm@fastmail.ca>
wrote:
Noah Sombrero <fedora@fea.st> wrote:
On Sat, 16 May 2026 22:55:06 +0100, Julian <julianlzb87@gmail.com>
wrote:
On 16/05/2026 22:35, Tara wrote:
On May 16, 2026 at 5:16:07?PM EDT, "Noah Sombrero" <fedora@fea.st> wrote:
On Sat, 16 May 2026 20:17:19 -0000 (UTC), Tara <tsm@fastmail.ca> >>>>>>> wrote:
On May 16, 2026 at 3:13:17?PM EDT, "Dude" <punditster@gmail.com> wrote:
On 5/16/2026 8:50 AM, Noah Sombrero wrote:
On Sat, 16 May 2026 08:42:37 -0700, Dude <punditster@gmail.com> wrote:Bill Maher noted that the political far-left and far-right agree on >>>>>>>>> almost nothing, except for their animosity toward Israel and Jewish people.
On 5/16/2026 6:30 AM, Noah Sombrero wrote:
On Sat, 16 May 2026 13:08:49 -0000 (UTC), Tara <tsm@fastmail.ca> >>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:Bill Maher was born to a Jewish mother and an Irish-Catholic father. He
Real Time Mat 15/26
https://youtu.be/BHOJCbRJu28?si=Vrol9ptbvlLK2Kka
Bill is great as always.
was raised in the Catholic faith but did not discover his Jewish >>>>>>>>>>> heritage until he was a teenager. Today, he identifies as an atheist and
does not practice either religion
From a Buddhist perspective, you should hate nobody. Is that the >>>>>>>>>>> baseline, or something else puts people over the edge? >>>>>>>>>>>>> Did you notice that he tells both sides of the story? >>>>>>>>>>>>
I say the extremes don't define the conversation.
So, I've noticed you and Nick have not told both sides of the story,
only opinions. You guys don't seem to be big on history.
And we certainly do not recognize you as any sort of expert on >>>>>>>>>> anything at all.
Two extremists, one at each end: Noah thinks it's Biblical prophecy;
Nick thinks it's genocide against the Arabs (refugees who went from 700
to a million population since 1947) and that Israel should be divided up
so everyone has at least 1 hectare.
And you would be knowing this how?
So not propaganda.
I told you how.
The interesting thing for me would be if you listened to what he saidWhat did Bill say? Can you sum it up in just a few words. Thanks. >>>>>>>>>>
Bill deserves to be heard.
and could tell me where he tells of hate for palestinians and their >>>>>>>>>> persecution. It is easy to miss, so many who don't want to hear that
do not.
He sharply criticized both "woke" campus progressives and right-wing >>>>>>>>> figures for using rhetoric that stokes antisemitism Like you and Nick.
He also noted that you can wear a keffiyeh anywhere but Jews are now afraid to
wear a Star of David pendant.
How about all those various female covering, except head, garments? >>>>>>> Does somebody object to those?
?
It's an epitomic category error.
my what a delicious big word. It means
Embodying, summarizing, encapsulating
epitomic category
Is that confusing enough?
I think julian wants to say that such garments are not in the same
category as the star of david. I disagree. The star of david is not
about female modesty, but beyond that both are clear religous symbols. >>>> And probably get about the same level of tolerance from the rest of
us. Nothing overt, of course.
A keffiyeh is a scarf that is traditional to Palestinians and it has
nothing to do with female modesty or religious symbol.
Look it up!
A scarf. So chances are most people would not know what they are
seeing. Not comparable to a star of david. I was reaching for
something that would compare.
ItrCOs a symbol of Palestinian nationalism and is warn by activists to show support for Palestinians
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Palestinian_keffiyeh
On May 17, 2026 at 9:28:13rC>AM EDT, "Noah Sombrero" <fedora@fea.st> wrote:
On Sun, 17 May 2026 12:02:29 -0000 (UTC), Tara <tsm@fastmail.ca>
wrote:
Noah Sombrero <fedora@fea.st> wrote:
On Sun, 17 May 2026 03:08:35 -0000 (UTC), Tara <tsm@fastmail.ca>
wrote:
Noah Sombrero <fedora@fea.st> wrote:
On Sat, 16 May 2026 22:55:06 +0100, Julian <julianlzb87@gmail.com> >>>>>> wrote:
On 16/05/2026 22:35, Tara wrote:
On May 16, 2026 at 5:16:07?PM EDT, "Noah Sombrero" <fedora@fea.st> wrote:
On Sat, 16 May 2026 20:17:19 -0000 (UTC), Tara <tsm@fastmail.ca> >>>>>>>>> wrote:
On May 16, 2026 at 3:13:17?PM EDT, "Dude" <punditster@gmail.com> wrote:
On 5/16/2026 8:50 AM, Noah Sombrero wrote:
On Sat, 16 May 2026 08:42:37 -0700, Dude <punditster@gmail.com> wrote:Bill Maher noted that the political far-left and far-right agree on >>>>>>>>>>> almost nothing, except for their animosity toward Israel and Jewish people.
On 5/16/2026 6:30 AM, Noah Sombrero wrote:And we certainly do not recognize you as any sort of expert on >>>>>>>>>>>> anything at all.
On Sat, 16 May 2026 13:08:49 -0000 (UTC), Tara <tsm@fastmail.ca> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:Bill Maher was born to a Jewish mother and an Irish-Catholic father. He
Real Time Mat 15/26
https://youtu.be/BHOJCbRJu28?si=Vrol9ptbvlLK2Kka
Bill is great as always.
was raised in the Catholic faith but did not discover his Jewish >>>>>>>>>>>>> heritage until he was a teenager. Today, he identifies as an atheist and
does not practice either religion
From a Buddhist perspective, you should hate nobody. Is that the >>>>>>>>>>>>> baseline, or something else puts people over the edge? >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Did you notice that he tells both sides of the story? >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
I say the extremes don't define the conversation.
So, I've noticed you and Nick have not told both sides of the story,
only opinions. You guys don't seem to be big on history. >>>>>>>>>>>>
Two extremists, one at each end: Noah thinks it's Biblical prophecy;
Nick thinks it's genocide against the Arabs (refugees who went from 700
to a million population since 1947) and that Israel should be divided up
so everyone has at least 1 hectare.
And you would be knowing this how?
So not propaganda.
I told you how.
The interesting thing for me would be if you listened to what he saidWhat did Bill say? Can you sum it up in just a few words. Thanks. >>>>>>>>>>>>
Bill deserves to be heard.
and could tell me where he tells of hate for palestinians and their
persecution. It is easy to miss, so many who don't want to hear that
do not.
He sharply criticized both "woke" campus progressives and right-wing
figures for using rhetoric that stokes antisemitism Like you and Nick.
He also noted that you can wear a keffiyeh anywhere but Jews are now afraid to
wear a Star of David pendant.
How about all those various female covering, except head, garments? >>>>>>>>> Does somebody object to those?
?
It's an epitomic category error.
my what a delicious big word. It means
Embodying, summarizing, encapsulating
epitomic category
Is that confusing enough?
I think julian wants to say that such garments are not in the same >>>>>> category as the star of david. I disagree. The star of david is not >>>>>> about female modesty, but beyond that both are clear religous symbols. >>>>>> And probably get about the same level of tolerance from the rest of >>>>>> us. Nothing overt, of course.
A keffiyeh is a scarf that is traditional to Palestinians and it has >>>>> nothing to do with female modesty or religious symbol.
Look it up!
A scarf. So chances are most people would not know what they are
seeing. Not comparable to a star of david. I was reaching for
something that would compare.
It-As a symbol of Palestinian nationalism and is warn by activists to show >>> support for Palestinians
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Palestinian_keffiyeh
Thanks. The point is that without wiki, few people would know the
significance.
At this point, I'm sure almost everyone knows the significance :)
On Sun, 17 May 2026 13:42:45 -0000 (UTC), Tara <tsm@fastmail.ca>
wrote:
On May 17, 2026 at 9:28:13?AM EDT, "Noah Sombrero" <fedora@fea.st> wrote:
On Sun, 17 May 2026 12:02:29 -0000 (UTC), Tara <tsm@fastmail.ca>
wrote:
Noah Sombrero <fedora@fea.st> wrote:
On Sun, 17 May 2026 03:08:35 -0000 (UTC), Tara <tsm@fastmail.ca>
wrote:
Noah Sombrero <fedora@fea.st> wrote:
On Sat, 16 May 2026 22:55:06 +0100, Julian <julianlzb87@gmail.com> >>>>>>> wrote:
On 16/05/2026 22:35, Tara wrote:
On May 16, 2026 at 5:16:07?PM EDT, "Noah Sombrero" <fedora@fea.st> wrote:
On Sat, 16 May 2026 20:17:19 -0000 (UTC), Tara <tsm@fastmail.ca> >>>>>>>>>> wrote:
On May 16, 2026 at 3:13:17?PM EDT, "Dude" <punditster@gmail.com> wrote:
On 5/16/2026 8:50 AM, Noah Sombrero wrote:
On Sat, 16 May 2026 08:42:37 -0700, Dude <punditster@gmail.com> wrote:Bill Maher noted that the political far-left and far-right agree on
On 5/16/2026 6:30 AM, Noah Sombrero wrote:And we certainly do not recognize you as any sort of expert on >>>>>>>>>>>>> anything at all.
On Sat, 16 May 2026 13:08:49 -0000 (UTC), Tara <tsm@fastmail.ca>Bill Maher was born to a Jewish mother and an Irish-Catholic father. He
wrote:
Real Time Mat 15/26Bill is great as always.
https://youtu.be/BHOJCbRJu28?si=Vrol9ptbvlLK2Kka >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
was raised in the Catholic faith but did not discover his Jewish >>>>>>>>>>>>>> heritage until he was a teenager. Today, he identifies as an atheist and
does not practice either religion
From a Buddhist perspective, you should hate nobody. Is that the
I say the extremes don't define the conversation. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
baseline, or something else puts people over the edge? >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Did you notice that he tells both sides of the story? >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
So, I've noticed you and Nick have not told both sides of the story,
only opinions. You guys don't seem to be big on history. >>>>>>>>>>>>>
Two extremists, one at each end: Noah thinks it's Biblical prophecy;
Nick thinks it's genocide against the Arabs (refugees who went from 700
to a million population since 1947) and that Israel should be divided up
so everyone has at least 1 hectare.
And you would be knowing this how?
So not propaganda.
I told you how.
What did Bill say? Can you sum it up in just a few words. Thanks.
Bill deserves to be heard.
The interesting thing for me would be if you listened to what he said
and could tell me where he tells of hate for palestinians and their
persecution. It is easy to miss, so many who don't want to hear that
do not.
almost nothing, except for their animosity toward Israel and Jewish people.
He sharply criticized both "woke" campus progressives and right-wing
figures for using rhetoric that stokes antisemitism Like you and Nick.
He also noted that you can wear a keffiyeh anywhere but Jews are now afraid to
wear a Star of David pendant.
How about all those various female covering, except head, garments? >>>>>>>>>> Does somebody object to those?
?
It's an epitomic category error.
my what a delicious big word. It means
Embodying, summarizing, encapsulating
epitomic category
Is that confusing enough?
I think julian wants to say that such garments are not in the same >>>>>>> category as the star of david. I disagree. The star of david is not >>>>>>> about female modesty, but beyond that both are clear religous symbols. >>>>>>> And probably get about the same level of tolerance from the rest of >>>>>>> us. Nothing overt, of course.
A keffiyeh is a scarf that is traditional to Palestinians and it has >>>>>> nothing to do with female modesty or religious symbol.
Look it up!
A scarf. So chances are most people would not know what they are
seeing. Not comparable to a star of david. I was reaching for
something that would compare.
It?s a symbol of Palestinian nationalism and is warn by activists to show >>>> support for Palestinians
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Palestinian_keffiyeh
Thanks. The point is that without wiki, few people would know the
significance.
At this point, I'm sure almost everyone knows the significance :)
Even if they do, the shawl is not a religious symbol. The star of
david is a religious symbol. The total body coverings that some
muslim women wear are religious symbols.
So let's remember, why is there resentment towards arabs? Becausesome bombings, etc have been attributed to them, which means in our imaginations that all such destruction is attributable to them. It
becomes no longer a matter of individuals doing nasty, it becomes in
our imaginations all members of a group sharing responsibility simply
because they are members of that group.
So it is that the entire destruction of gaza is ok in our minds. There
is no point of sufficiency where somebody might say, ok enough. Not
only do we destroy the place, but we build an amusement park in its
place. Is that enough? Oh, I don't think so.
I would say there is no comparable hatred for a group, no comparable destruction of a culture anywhere in the world than for gazans.
On Sat, 16 May 2026 15:01:19 -0700, Dude <punditster@gmail.com> wrote:
On 5/16/2026 2:35 PM, Noah Sombrero wrote:
On Sat, 16 May 2026 11:44:27 -0700, Dude <punditster@gmail.com> wrote:Nobody watches late night comedy anymore - that's old school. These days
On 5/16/2026 8:57 AM, Noah Sombrero wrote:No, bill, I really appreciate it when you tell us what stinks. Even
On Sat, 16 May 2026 08:55:25 -0700, Dude <punditster@gmail.com> wrote: >>>>>Standup comics should maybe stick to comedy to make people laugh. YMMV. >>>
On 5/16/2026 6:08 AM, Tara wrote:There you have it, Bill, no matter what, there will be some who can
Real Time Mat 15/26It's good to hear or read both sides of any debate. Not sure if stand up >>>>>> comics can pull it off. Out of the box it's already offensive.
https://youtu.be/BHOJCbRJu28?si=Vrol9ptbvlLK2Kka
There's no "Jews" - if so, they should be able to be defined. All Jewish >>>>>> individuals are different.
The phrase "No Jews" is widely classified as both an offensive term and >>>>>> a form of discriminatory hate speech.
Historically, it refers to exclusionary policies (such as "No Jews or >>>>>> Dogs" signs) used to bar Jewish people from accessing housing,
employment, and public accommodations.When used today to exclude or >>>>>> target the group, it functions as an ethnic slur and a manifestation of >>>>>> antisemitism. YMMV.
While "Jew" is a noun, "Jewish" is the adjective.
Note: Some may find the noun "Jew" used to describe someone offensive in >>>>>> certain contexts, making the phrase "Jewish person" generally safer, >>>>>> unless you're Nick, then you just make up a new derogatory. Who care? >>>>>
denigrate you. Even you.
if half the population would not hear you if they did listen.
it's all about the clip - shorts, for short. Young people today are into
three second clips, not an hour long variety show with one lame comedy act.
In that case it is "nobody's" loss. The people who, in past, valued
bill for the quality of his discussions and opinions still do.
I think the truth is that himboists want late night comedy to go away
because it is consistently far too uncomplimentary to them.
Same for bill, actually, but he isn't going away. He has been kicked off networks a time or two, but so far manages to find a forum.
Advertisers are no longer willing to pay the high premiums of the past
because viewers increasingly consume clips on digital and on-demand
platforms rather than watching live broadcasts.
On Sat, 16 May 2026 22:24:18 -0400, Noah Sombrero <fedora@fea.st>
wrote:
On Sat, 16 May 2026 15:01:19 -0700, Dude <punditster@gmail.com> wrote:
On 5/16/2026 2:35 PM, Noah Sombrero wrote:In that case it is "nobody's" loss. The people who, in past, valued
On Sat, 16 May 2026 11:44:27 -0700, Dude <punditster@gmail.com> wrote: >>>>Nobody watches late night comedy anymore - that's old school. These days >>> it's all about the clip - shorts, for short. Young people today are into >>> three second clips, not an hour long variety show with one lame comedy act. >>
On 5/16/2026 8:57 AM, Noah Sombrero wrote:No, bill, I really appreciate it when you tell us what stinks. Even
On Sat, 16 May 2026 08:55:25 -0700, Dude <punditster@gmail.com> wrote: >>>>>>Standup comics should maybe stick to comedy to make people laugh. YMMV. >>>>
On 5/16/2026 6:08 AM, Tara wrote:There you have it, Bill, no matter what, there will be some who can >>>>>> denigrate you. Even you.
Real Time Mat 15/26It's good to hear or read both sides of any debate. Not sure if stand up
https://youtu.be/BHOJCbRJu28?si=Vrol9ptbvlLK2Kka
comics can pull it off. Out of the box it's already offensive.
There's no "Jews" - if so, they should be able to be defined. All Jewish
individuals are different.
The phrase "No Jews" is widely classified as both an offensive term and >>>>>>> a form of discriminatory hate speech.
Historically, it refers to exclusionary policies (such as "No Jews or >>>>>>> Dogs" signs) used to bar Jewish people from accessing housing,
employment, and public accommodations.When used today to exclude or >>>>>>> target the group, it functions as an ethnic slur and a manifestation of >>>>>>> antisemitism. YMMV.
While "Jew" is a noun, "Jewish" is the adjective.
Note: Some may find the noun "Jew" used to describe someone offensive in
certain contexts, making the phrase "Jewish person" generally safer, >>>>>>> unless you're Nick, then you just make up a new derogatory. Who care? >>>>>>
if half the population would not hear you if they did listen.
bill for the quality of his discussions and opinions still do.
I think the truth is that himboists want late night comedy to go away
because it is consistently far too uncomplimentary to them. Same for
bill, actually, but he isn't going away. He has been kicked off
networks a time or two, but so far manages to find a forum.
Advertisers are no longer willing to pay the high premiums of the past
because viewers increasingly consume clips on digital and on-demand
platforms rather than watching live broadcasts.
Late night comedy could do the same. Why are they pretending
otherwise?
On Sat, 16 May 2026 21:47:57 -0000 (UTC), Tara <tsm@fastmail.ca>
wrote:
On May 16, 2026 at 5:42:06?PM EDT, "Noah Sombrero" <fedora@fea.st> wrote:
On Sat, 16 May 2026 20:45:55 -0000 (UTC), Tara <tsm@fastmail.ca>
wrote:
On May 16, 2026 at 4:26:10?PM EDT, "Tara" <tsm@fastmail.ca> wrote:
On May 16, 2026 at 4:17:19?PM EDT, "Tara" <tsm@fastmail.ca> wrote:
On May 16, 2026 at 3:13:17?PM EDT, "Dude" <punditster@gmail.com> wrote: >>>>>>
On 5/16/2026 8:50 AM, Noah Sombrero wrote:He also noted that you can wear a keffiyeh anywhere but Jews are now afraid to
On Sat, 16 May 2026 08:42:37 -0700, Dude <punditster@gmail.com> wrote: >>>>>>>>Bill Maher noted that the political far-left and far-right agree on >>>>>>> almost nothing, except for their animosity toward Israel and Jewish people.
On 5/16/2026 6:30 AM, Noah Sombrero wrote:
On Sat, 16 May 2026 13:08:49 -0000 (UTC), Tara <tsm@fastmail.ca> >>>>>>>>>> wrote:Bill Maher was born to a Jewish mother and an Irish-Catholic father. He
Real Time Mat 15/26
https://youtu.be/BHOJCbRJu28?si=Vrol9ptbvlLK2Kka
Bill is great as always.
was raised in the Catholic faith but did not discover his Jewish >>>>>>>>> heritage until he was a teenager. Today, he identifies as an atheist and
does not practice either religion
From a Buddhist perspective, you should hate nobody. Is that the >>>>>>>>> baseline, or something else puts people over the edge?
I say the extremes don't define the conversation.
So, I've noticed you and Nick have not told both sides of the story, >>>>>>>>> only opinions. You guys don't seem to be big on history.Did you notice that he tells both sides of the story?
And we certainly do not recognize you as any sort of expert on >>>>>>>> anything at all.
Two extremists, one at each end: Noah thinks it's Biblical prophecy; >>>>>>>>> Nick thinks it's genocide against the Arabs (refugees who went from 700
to a million population since 1947) and that Israel should be divided up
so everyone has at least 1 hectare.
And you would be knowing this how?
So not propaganda.
I told you how.
The interesting thing for me would be if you listened to what he said >>>>>>>> and could tell me where he tells of hate for palestinians and their >>>>>>>> persecution. It is easy to miss, so many who don't want to hear that >>>>>>>> do not.What did Bill say? Can you sum it up in just a few words. Thanks. >>>>>>>>
Bill deserves to be heard.
He sharply criticized both "woke" campus progressives and right-wing >>>>>>> figures for using rhetoric that stokes antisemitism Like you and Nick. >>>>>>
wear a Star of David pendant.
I especially liked when Bill called 'progressives" and left-wing critics of
Israel 'brats".
He said:..."if you brats had to spend a week anywhere in the Middle East other
than Israel you would understand what liberalism is."
But then there are those brats (a minority to be sure) but even in our midst,
who don't discriminate. They hate both sides!
To one who has chosen a side, hating neither might look like hating
both.
or it might look like an easy way out.
Or it might look like a reflection on the credibility of both sides. Especially if both have been accused of crimes against humanity and
warrants issued.
On May 16, 2026 at 5:42:06rC>PM EDT, "Noah Sombrero" <fedora@fea.st> wrote:
On Sat, 16 May 2026 20:45:55 -0000 (UTC), Tara <tsm@fastmail.ca>
wrote:
On May 16, 2026 at 4:26:10?PM EDT, "Tara" <tsm@fastmail.ca> wrote:
On May 16, 2026 at 4:17:19?PM EDT, "Tara" <tsm@fastmail.ca> wrote:
On May 16, 2026 at 3:13:17?PM EDT, "Dude" <punditster@gmail.com> wrote: >>>>>
On 5/16/2026 8:50 AM, Noah Sombrero wrote:He also noted that you can wear a keffiyeh anywhere but Jews are now afraid to
On Sat, 16 May 2026 08:42:37 -0700, Dude <punditster@gmail.com> wrote: >>>>>>>Bill Maher noted that the political far-left and far-right agree on >>>>>> almost nothing, except for their animosity toward Israel and Jewish people.
On 5/16/2026 6:30 AM, Noah Sombrero wrote:
On Sat, 16 May 2026 13:08:49 -0000 (UTC), Tara <tsm@fastmail.ca> >>>>>>>>> wrote:Bill Maher was born to a Jewish mother and an Irish-Catholic father. He
Real Time Mat 15/26
https://youtu.be/BHOJCbRJu28?si=Vrol9ptbvlLK2Kka
Bill is great as always.
was raised in the Catholic faith but did not discover his Jewish >>>>>>>> heritage until he was a teenager. Today, he identifies as an atheist and
does not practice either religion
From a Buddhist perspective, you should hate nobody. Is that the >>>>>>>> baseline, or something else puts people over the edge?
I say the extremes don't define the conversation.
So, I've noticed you and Nick have not told both sides of the story, >>>>>>>> only opinions. You guys don't seem to be big on history.Did you notice that he tells both sides of the story?
And we certainly do not recognize you as any sort of expert on
anything at all.
Two extremists, one at each end: Noah thinks it's Biblical prophecy; >>>>>>>> Nick thinks it's genocide against the Arabs (refugees who went from 700
to a million population since 1947) and that Israel should be divided up
so everyone has at least 1 hectare.
And you would be knowing this how?
So not propaganda.
I told you how.
The interesting thing for me would be if you listened to what he said >>>>>>> and could tell me where he tells of hate for palestinians and their >>>>>>> persecution. It is easy to miss, so many who don't want to hear that >>>>>>> do not.What did Bill say? Can you sum it up in just a few words. Thanks. >>>>>>>
Bill deserves to be heard.
He sharply criticized both "woke" campus progressives and right-wing >>>>>> figures for using rhetoric that stokes antisemitism Like you and Nick. >>>>>
wear a Star of David pendant.
I especially liked when Bill called 'progressives" and left-wing critics of
Israel 'brats".
He said:..."if you brats had to spend a week anywhere in the Middle East other
than Israel you would understand what liberalism is."
But then there are those brats (a minority to be sure) but even in our midst,
who don't discriminate. They hate both sides!
To one who has chosen a side, hating neither might look like hating
both.
or it might look like an easy way out.
On 5/16/2026 7:24 PM, Noah Sombrero wrote:
On Sat, 16 May 2026 15:01:19 -0700, Dude <punditster@gmail.com> wrote:
On 5/16/2026 2:35 PM, Noah Sombrero wrote:In that case it is "nobody's" loss. The people who, in past, valued
On Sat, 16 May 2026 11:44:27 -0700, Dude <punditster@gmail.com> wrote: >>>>Nobody watches late night comedy anymore - that's old school. These days >>> it's all about the clip - shorts, for short. Young people today are into >>> three second clips, not an hour long variety show with one lame comedy act. >>
On 5/16/2026 8:57 AM, Noah Sombrero wrote:No, bill, I really appreciate it when you tell us what stinks. Even
On Sat, 16 May 2026 08:55:25 -0700, Dude <punditster@gmail.com> wrote: >>>>>>Standup comics should maybe stick to comedy to make people laugh. YMMV. >>>>
On 5/16/2026 6:08 AM, Tara wrote:There you have it, Bill, no matter what, there will be some who can >>>>>> denigrate you. Even you.
Real Time Mat 15/26It's good to hear or read both sides of any debate. Not sure if stand up
https://youtu.be/BHOJCbRJu28?si=Vrol9ptbvlLK2Kka
comics can pull it off. Out of the box it's already offensive.
There's no "Jews" - if so, they should be able to be defined. All Jewish
individuals are different.
The phrase "No Jews" is widely classified as both an offensive term and >>>>>>> a form of discriminatory hate speech.
Historically, it refers to exclusionary policies (such as "No Jews or >>>>>>> Dogs" signs) used to bar Jewish people from accessing housing,
employment, and public accommodations.When used today to exclude or >>>>>>> target the group, it functions as an ethnic slur and a manifestation of >>>>>>> antisemitism. YMMV.
While "Jew" is a noun, "Jewish" is the adjective.
Note: Some may find the noun "Jew" used to describe someone offensive in
certain contexts, making the phrase "Jewish person" generally safer, >>>>>>> unless you're Nick, then you just make up a new derogatory. Who care? >>>>>>
if half the population would not hear you if they did listen.
bill for the quality of his discussions and opinions still do.
I think the truth is that himboists want late night comedy to go away
because it is consistently far too uncomplimentary to them.
Himbos and bimbos apparently, don't watch much comedy TV like you do. YMMV.
--Same for bill, actually, but he isn't going away. He has been kicked off
networks a time or two, but so far manages to find a forum.
Advertisers are no longer willing to pay the high premiums of the past
because viewers increasingly consume clips on digital and on-demand
platforms rather than watching live broadcasts.
On Sat, 16 May 2026 23:49:53 -0700, dart200 <user7160@newsgrouper.org.invalid> wrote:
is this title some reference to joos owning so much of the media for so
long??? and heck it's /still/ going on ...
i mean fuck duds just look at top global social media -
facebook - joo
youtube - joos
whatsapp - joo (no public discourse)
instagram - joo
tiktok - china, but us operations managed by joo
wechat - china
messanger - joo (no public discourse)
telegram - russian (no public discourse)
linkedin - bought by joo founded company
snapchat - not actually joo (no public discourse)
reddit - bought by joos
douyin - china
kuaishou - china
x - bought by "aspirational joo" with majority joo friends
weibo - china
pinterest - joo founder
how in the fuck does 0.2% of the global population have it's fucking
grubby hands all over so much of social media??? i'm supposed to believe
this was the /just/ the result of mUh FrEe MaRkEt, eh???
> that's what u fking sheeple believe, eh??? ???
>
> #god
That list is a demonstration of what? Resentment towards people who
are intelligent, competent and successful?
On Sun, 17 May 2026 12:02:29 -0000 (UTC), Tara <tsm@fastmail.ca>
wrote:
Noah Sombrero <fedora@fea.st> wrote:
On Sun, 17 May 2026 03:08:35 -0000 (UTC), Tara <tsm@fastmail.ca>
wrote:
Noah Sombrero <fedora@fea.st> wrote:
On Sat, 16 May 2026 22:55:06 +0100, Julian <julianlzb87@gmail.com>
wrote:
On 16/05/2026 22:35, Tara wrote:
On May 16, 2026 at 5:16:07?PM EDT, "Noah Sombrero" <fedora@fea.st> wrote:
On Sat, 16 May 2026 20:17:19 -0000 (UTC), Tara <tsm@fastmail.ca> >>>>>>>> wrote:
On May 16, 2026 at 3:13:17?PM EDT, "Dude" <punditster@gmail.com> wrote:
On 5/16/2026 8:50 AM, Noah Sombrero wrote:
On Sat, 16 May 2026 08:42:37 -0700, Dude <punditster@gmail.com> wrote:Bill Maher noted that the political far-left and far-right agree on >>>>>>>>>> almost nothing, except for their animosity toward Israel and Jewish people.
On 5/16/2026 6:30 AM, Noah Sombrero wrote:And we certainly do not recognize you as any sort of expert on >>>>>>>>>>> anything at all.
On Sat, 16 May 2026 13:08:49 -0000 (UTC), Tara <tsm@fastmail.ca> >>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:Bill Maher was born to a Jewish mother and an Irish-Catholic father. He
Real Time Mat 15/26
https://youtu.be/BHOJCbRJu28?si=Vrol9ptbvlLK2Kka
Bill is great as always.
was raised in the Catholic faith but did not discover his Jewish >>>>>>>>>>>> heritage until he was a teenager. Today, he identifies as an atheist and
does not practice either religion
From a Buddhist perspective, you should hate nobody. Is that the >>>>>>>>>>>> baseline, or something else puts people over the edge? >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Did you notice that he tells both sides of the story? >>>>>>>>>>>>>
I say the extremes don't define the conversation.
So, I've noticed you and Nick have not told both sides of the story,
only opinions. You guys don't seem to be big on history. >>>>>>>>>>>
Two extremists, one at each end: Noah thinks it's Biblical prophecy;
Nick thinks it's genocide against the Arabs (refugees who went from 700
to a million population since 1947) and that Israel should be divided up
so everyone has at least 1 hectare.
And you would be knowing this how?
So not propaganda.
I told you how.
The interesting thing for me would be if you listened to what he saidWhat did Bill say? Can you sum it up in just a few words. Thanks. >>>>>>>>>>>
Bill deserves to be heard.
and could tell me where he tells of hate for palestinians and their >>>>>>>>>>> persecution. It is easy to miss, so many who don't want to hear that
do not.
He sharply criticized both "woke" campus progressives and right-wing >>>>>>>>>> figures for using rhetoric that stokes antisemitism Like you and Nick.
He also noted that you can wear a keffiyeh anywhere but Jews are now afraid to
wear a Star of David pendant.
How about all those various female covering, except head, garments? >>>>>>>> Does somebody object to those?
?
It's an epitomic category error.
my what a delicious big word. It means
Embodying, summarizing, encapsulating
epitomic category
Is that confusing enough?
I think julian wants to say that such garments are not in the same
category as the star of david. I disagree. The star of david is not >>>>> about female modesty, but beyond that both are clear religous symbols. >>>>> And probably get about the same level of tolerance from the rest of
us. Nothing overt, of course.
A keffiyeh is a scarf that is traditional to Palestinians and it has
nothing to do with female modesty or religious symbol.
Look it up!
A scarf. So chances are most people would not know what they are
seeing. Not comparable to a star of david. I was reaching for
something that would compare.
ItrCOs a symbol of Palestinian nationalism and is warn by activists to show >> support for Palestinians
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Palestinian_keffiyeh
Thanks. The point is that without wiki, few people would know the significance.
On Sun, 17 May 2026 13:42:45 -0000 (UTC), Tara <tsm@fastmail.ca>
wrote:
On May 17, 2026 at 9:28:13?AM EDT, "Noah Sombrero" <fedora@fea.st> wrote:
On Sun, 17 May 2026 12:02:29 -0000 (UTC), Tara <tsm@fastmail.ca>
wrote:
Noah Sombrero <fedora@fea.st> wrote:
On Sun, 17 May 2026 03:08:35 -0000 (UTC), Tara <tsm@fastmail.ca>
wrote:
Noah Sombrero <fedora@fea.st> wrote:
On Sat, 16 May 2026 22:55:06 +0100, Julian <julianlzb87@gmail.com> >>>>>>> wrote:
On 16/05/2026 22:35, Tara wrote:
On May 16, 2026 at 5:16:07?PM EDT, "Noah Sombrero" <fedora@fea.st> wrote:
On Sat, 16 May 2026 20:17:19 -0000 (UTC), Tara <tsm@fastmail.ca> >>>>>>>>>> wrote:
On May 16, 2026 at 3:13:17?PM EDT, "Dude" <punditster@gmail.com> wrote:
On 5/16/2026 8:50 AM, Noah Sombrero wrote:
On Sat, 16 May 2026 08:42:37 -0700, Dude <punditster@gmail.com> wrote:Bill Maher noted that the political far-left and far-right agree on
On 5/16/2026 6:30 AM, Noah Sombrero wrote:And we certainly do not recognize you as any sort of expert on >>>>>>>>>>>>> anything at all.
On Sat, 16 May 2026 13:08:49 -0000 (UTC), Tara <tsm@fastmail.ca>Bill Maher was born to a Jewish mother and an Irish-Catholic father. He
wrote:
Real Time Mat 15/26Bill is great as always.
https://youtu.be/BHOJCbRJu28?si=Vrol9ptbvlLK2Kka >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
was raised in the Catholic faith but did not discover his Jewish >>>>>>>>>>>>>> heritage until he was a teenager. Today, he identifies as an atheist and
does not practice either religion
From a Buddhist perspective, you should hate nobody. Is that the
I say the extremes don't define the conversation. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
baseline, or something else puts people over the edge? >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Did you notice that he tells both sides of the story? >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
So, I've noticed you and Nick have not told both sides of the story,
only opinions. You guys don't seem to be big on history. >>>>>>>>>>>>>
Two extremists, one at each end: Noah thinks it's Biblical prophecy;
Nick thinks it's genocide against the Arabs (refugees who went from 700
to a million population since 1947) and that Israel should be divided up
so everyone has at least 1 hectare.
And you would be knowing this how?
So not propaganda.
I told you how.
What did Bill say? Can you sum it up in just a few words. Thanks.
Bill deserves to be heard.
The interesting thing for me would be if you listened to what he said
and could tell me where he tells of hate for palestinians and their
persecution. It is easy to miss, so many who don't want to hear that
do not.
almost nothing, except for their animosity toward Israel and Jewish people.
He sharply criticized both "woke" campus progressives and right-wing
figures for using rhetoric that stokes antisemitism Like you and Nick.
He also noted that you can wear a keffiyeh anywhere but Jews are now afraid to
wear a Star of David pendant.
How about all those various female covering, except head, garments? >>>>>>>>>> Does somebody object to those?
?
It's an epitomic category error.
my what a delicious big word. It means
Embodying, summarizing, encapsulating
epitomic category
Is that confusing enough?
I think julian wants to say that such garments are not in the same >>>>>>> category as the star of david. I disagree. The star of david is not >>>>>>> about female modesty, but beyond that both are clear religous symbols. >>>>>>> And probably get about the same level of tolerance from the rest of >>>>>>> us. Nothing overt, of course.
A keffiyeh is a scarf that is traditional to Palestinians and it has >>>>>> nothing to do with female modesty or religious symbol.
Look it up!
A scarf. So chances are most people would not know what they are
seeing. Not comparable to a star of david. I was reaching for
something that would compare.
It?s a symbol of Palestinian nationalism and is warn by activists to show >>>> support for Palestinians
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Palestinian_keffiyeh
Thanks. The point is that without wiki, few people would know the
significance.
At this point, I'm sure almost everyone knows the significance :)
Even if they do, the shawl is not a religious symbol. The star of
david is a religious symbol. The total body coverings that some
muslim women wear are religious symbols.
So let's remember, why is there resentment towards arabs? Because
some bombings, etc have been attributed to them, which means in our imaginations that all such destruction is attributable to them. It--
becomes no longer a matter of individuals doing nasty, it becomes in
our imaginations all members of a group sharing responsibility simply
because they are members of that group.
So it is that the entire destruction of gaza is ok in our minds. There
is no point of sufficiency where somebody might say, ok enough. Not
only do we destroy the place, but we build an amusement park in its
place. Is that enough? Oh, I don't think so.
I would say there is no comparable hatred for a group, no comparable destruction of a culture anywhere in the world than for gazans.
On Sun, 17 May 2026 15:31:12 +0100, Julian <julianlzb87@gmail.com>
wrote:
On 17/05/2026 14:42, Tara wrote:
On May 17, 2026 at 9:28:13?AM EDT, "Noah Sombrero" <fedora@fea.st> wrote: >>>
On Sun, 17 May 2026 12:02:29 -0000 (UTC), Tara <tsm@fastmail.ca>
wrote:
Noah Sombrero <fedora@fea.st> wrote:
On Sun, 17 May 2026 03:08:35 -0000 (UTC), Tara <tsm@fastmail.ca>
wrote:
Noah Sombrero <fedora@fea.st> wrote:
On Sat, 16 May 2026 22:55:06 +0100, Julian <julianlzb87@gmail.com> >>>>>>>> wrote:
On 16/05/2026 22:35, Tara wrote:
On May 16, 2026 at 5:16:07?PM EDT, "Noah Sombrero" <fedora@fea.st> wrote:
On Sat, 16 May 2026 20:17:19 -0000 (UTC), Tara <tsm@fastmail.ca> >>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
On May 16, 2026 at 3:13:17?PM EDT, "Dude" <punditster@gmail.com> wrote:
On 5/16/2026 8:50 AM, Noah Sombrero wrote:
On Sat, 16 May 2026 08:42:37 -0700, Dude <punditster@gmail.com> wrote:Bill Maher noted that the political far-left and far-right agree on
On 5/16/2026 6:30 AM, Noah Sombrero wrote:And we certainly do not recognize you as any sort of expert on >>>>>>>>>>>>>> anything at all.
On Sat, 16 May 2026 13:08:49 -0000 (UTC), Tara <tsm@fastmail.ca>Bill Maher was born to a Jewish mother and an Irish-Catholic father. He
wrote:
Real Time Mat 15/26Bill is great as always.
https://youtu.be/BHOJCbRJu28?si=Vrol9ptbvlLK2Kka >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
was raised in the Catholic faith but did not discover his Jewish
heritage until he was a teenager. Today, he identifies as an atheist and
does not practice either religion
From a Buddhist perspective, you should hate nobody. Is that the
I say the extremes don't define the conversation. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
baseline, or something else puts people over the edge? >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Did you notice that he tells both sides of the story? >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
So, I've noticed you and Nick have not told both sides of the story,
only opinions. You guys don't seem to be big on history. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
Two extremists, one at each end: Noah thinks it's Biblical prophecy;
Nick thinks it's genocide against the Arabs (refugees who went from 700
to a million population since 1947) and that Israel should be divided up
so everyone has at least 1 hectare.
And you would be knowing this how?
So not propaganda.
I told you how.
What did Bill say? Can you sum it up in just a few words. Thanks.
Bill deserves to be heard.
The interesting thing for me would be if you listened to what he said
and could tell me where he tells of hate for palestinians and their
persecution. It is easy to miss, so many who don't want to hear that
do not.
almost nothing, except for their animosity toward Israel and Jewish people.
He sharply criticized both "woke" campus progressives and right-wing
figures for using rhetoric that stokes antisemitism Like you and Nick.
He also noted that you can wear a keffiyeh anywhere but Jews are now afraid to
wear a Star of David pendant.
How about all those various female covering, except head, garments? >>>>>>>>>>> Does somebody object to those?
?
It's an epitomic category error.
my what a delicious big word. It means
Embodying, summarizing, encapsulating
epitomic category
Is that confusing enough?
I think julian wants to say that such garments are not in the same >>>>>>>> category as the star of david. I disagree. The star of david is not >>>>>>>> about female modesty, but beyond that both are clear religous symbols. >>>>>>>> And probably get about the same level of tolerance from the rest of >>>>>>>> us. Nothing overt, of course.
A keffiyeh is a scarf that is traditional to Palestinians and it has >>>>>>> nothing to do with female modesty or religious symbol.
Look it up!
A scarf. So chances are most people would not know what they are
seeing. Not comparable to a star of david. I was reaching for
something that would compare.
It?s a symbol of Palestinian nationalism and is warn by activists to show >>>>> support for Palestinians
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Palestinian_keffiyeh
Thanks. The point is that without wiki, few people would know the
significance.
At this point, I'm sure almost everyone knows the significance :)
A significance is that, unlike Jews and the Star of David, relatively
few Muslims, in their Niqab/Hijab/Burka/Chador/Duppata or the Muslim
adjacent with their Keffiyehs, literally fear for their lives if
they dare wear an indicator towards their faith/ideology in public.
Most jews don't fear wearing the star of david either, although some
might. In fact, most religious people of whatever stripe do not wear
a symbol of that. "relatively few Muslims".
My point remains. There is no point in gaza where we say, ok enough.
Stop now. There is no comparable calamity. Right now. Anywhere. In
fact we do not even see it as a calamity. hohum.
On 5/17/26 6:28 AM, Noah Sombrero wrote:
On Sun, 17 May 2026 12:02:29 -0000 (UTC), Tara <tsm@fastmail.ca>
wrote:
Noah Sombrero <fedora@fea.st> wrote:
On Sun, 17 May 2026 03:08:35 -0000 (UTC), Tara <tsm@fastmail.ca>
wrote:
Noah Sombrero <fedora@fea.st> wrote:
On Sat, 16 May 2026 22:55:06 +0100, Julian <julianlzb87@gmail.com> >>>>>> wrote:
On 16/05/2026 22:35, Tara wrote:
On May 16, 2026 at 5:16:07?PM EDT, "Noah Sombrero"
<fedora@fea.st> wrote:
On Sat, 16 May 2026 20:17:19 -0000 (UTC), Tara <tsm@fastmail.ca> >>>>>>>>> wrote:
On May 16, 2026 at 3:13:17?PM EDT, "Dude"
<punditster@gmail.com> wrote:
On 5/16/2026 8:50 AM, Noah Sombrero wrote:
On Sat, 16 May 2026 08:42:37 -0700, DudeBill Maher noted that the political far-left and far-right >>>>>>>>>>> agree on
<punditster@gmail.com> wrote:
On 5/16/2026 6:30 AM, Noah Sombrero wrote:And we certainly do not recognize you as any sort of expert on >>>>>>>>>>>> anything at all.
On Sat, 16 May 2026 13:08:49 -0000 (UTC), TaraBill Maher was born to a Jewish mother and an Irish- >>>>>>>>>>>>> Catholic father. He
<tsm@fastmail.ca>
wrote:
Real Time Mat 15/26
https://youtu.be/BHOJCbRJu28?si=Vrol9ptbvlLK2Kka
Bill is great as always.
was raised in the Catholic faith but did not discover his >>>>>>>>>>>>> Jewish
heritage until he was a teenager. Today, he identifies as >>>>>>>>>>>>> an atheist and
does not practice either religion
-aFrom a Buddhist perspective, you should hate nobody. Is >>>>>>>>>>>>> that the
I say the extremes don't define the conversation.
baseline, or something else puts people over the edge? >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Did you notice that he tells both sides of the story? >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
So, I've noticed you and Nick have not told both sides of >>>>>>>>>>>>> the story,
only opinions. You guys don't seem to be big on history. >>>>>>>>>>>>
Two extremists, one at each end: Noah thinks it's Biblical >>>>>>>>>>>>> prophecy;
Nick thinks it's genocide against the Arabs (refugees who >>>>>>>>>>>>> went from 700
to a million population since 1947) and that Israel should >>>>>>>>>>>>> be divided up
so everyone has at least 1 hectare.
And you would be knowing this how?
So not propaganda.
I told you how.
What did Bill say? Can you sum it up in just a few words. >>>>>>>>>>>>> Thanks.
Bill deserves to be heard.
The interesting thing for me would be if you listened to >>>>>>>>>>>> what he said
and could tell me where he tells of hate for palestinians >>>>>>>>>>>> and their
persecution.-a It is easy to miss, so many who don't want to >>>>>>>>>>>> hear that
do not.
almost nothing, except for their animosity toward Israel and >>>>>>>>>>> Jewish people.
He sharply criticized both "woke" campus progressives and >>>>>>>>>>> right-wing
figures for using rhetoric that stokes antisemitism Like you >>>>>>>>>>> and Nick.
He also noted that you can wear a keffiyeh anywhere but Jews >>>>>>>>>> are now afraid to
wear a Star of David pendant.
How about all those various female covering, except head,
garments?
Does somebody object to those?
?
It's an epitomic category error.
my what a delicious big word.-a It means
Embodying, summarizing, encapsulating
epitomic category
Is that confusing enough?
I think julian wants to say that such garments are not in the same >>>>>> category as the star of david.-a I disagree.-a The star of david is not >>>>>> about female modesty, but beyond that both are clear religous
symbols.
And probably get about the same level of tolerance from the rest of >>>>>> us.-a Nothing overt, of course.
A keffiyeh is a scarf that is traditional to Palestinians and it has >>>>> nothing to do with female modesty or religious symbol.
Look it up!
A scarf.-a So chances are most people would not know what they are
seeing.-a Not comparable to a star of david.-a I was reaching for
something that would compare.
ItrCOs a symbol of Palestinian nationalism and is warn by activists to
show
support for Palestinians
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Palestinian_keffiyeh
Thanks.-a The point is that without wiki, few people would know the
significance.
so jimmy isn't a joo...
but he is a long time fervent zionist
is this title some reference to joos owning so much of the media for so long??? and heck it's /still/ going on ...
i mean fuck duds just look at top global social media -
facebook - joo
youtube - joos
whatsapp - joo (no public discourse)
instagram - joo
tiktok - china, but us operations managed by joo
wechat - china
messanger - joo (no public discourse)
telegram - russian (no public discourse)
linkedin - bought by joo founded company
snapchat - not actually joo (no public discourse)
reddit - bought by joos
douyin - china
kuaishou - china
x - bought by "aspirational joo" with majority joo friends
weibo - china
pinterest - joo founder
how in the fuck does 0.2% of the global population have it's fucking
grubby hands all over so much of social media??? i'm supposed to believe this was the /just/ the result of mUh FrEe MaRkEt, eh???
-a > that's what u fking sheeple believe, eh??? EfEaEfEaEfEa
-a >
-a > #god
On Sat, 16 May 2026 23:49:53 -0700, dart200 <user7160@newsgrouper.org.invalid> wrote:
is this title some reference to joos owning so much of the media for so
long??? and heck it's /still/ going on ...
i mean fuck duds just look at top global social media -
facebook - joo
youtube - joos
whatsapp - joo (no public discourse)
instagram - joo
tiktok - china, but us operations managed by joo
wechat - china
messanger - joo (no public discourse)
telegram - russian (no public discourse)
linkedin - bought by joo founded company
snapchat - not actually joo (no public discourse)
reddit - bought by joos
douyin - china
kuaishou - china
x - bought by "aspirational joo" with majority joo friends
weibo - china
pinterest - joo founder
how in the fuck does 0.2% of the global population have it's fucking
grubby hands all over so much of social media??? i'm supposed to believe
this was the /just/ the result of mUh FrEe MaRkEt, eh???
> that's what u fking sheeple believe, eh??? ???
>
> #god
That list is a demonstration of what? Resentment towards people who
are intelligent, competent and successful?
Of course, there are dumb jewish people, but the evidence does suggest
that as a group, they tend to have more of what it takes to compete in
human societies generally than the rest of us. As they have once
again demonstrated in the building of the nation of israel.
In a history class one day I asked, spain was at one time among the
most successful european countries. Now they are among the least
successful (that might have improved somewhat since I asked that
question a very long ago), yizzat?.
Answer: Spain at one point destroyed its merchant class, which would
be jews since that is one of the few endeavors jews were allowed to
undertake a few hundred years ago.
So, here again, along with my abhorring the calamity of gaza, you see
me not taking sides. Wrong is always wrong and anybody can do it.
Even jews, even palestinians and other arabs, as evidenced by the
warrants for war crimes against both sides.
On 5/17/26 8:50 AM, Noah Sombrero wrote:
On Sat, 16 May 2026 23:49:53 -0700, dart200
<user7160@newsgrouper.org.invalid> wrote:
is this title some reference to joos owning so much of the media for so
long??? and heck it's /still/ going on ...
i mean fuck duds just look at top global social media -
facebook - joo
youtube - joos
whatsapp - joo (no public discourse)
instagram - joo
tiktok - china, but us operations managed by joo
wechat - china
messanger - joo (no public discourse)
telegram - russian (no public discourse)
linkedin - bought by joo founded company
snapchat - not actually joo (no public discourse)
reddit - bought by joos
douyin - china
kuaishou - china
x - bought by "aspirational joo" with majority joo friends
weibo - china
pinterest - joo founder
how in the fuck does 0.2% of the global population have it's fucking
grubby hands all over so much of social media??? i'm supposed to believe >>> this was the /just/ the result of mUh FrEe MaRkEt, eh???
-a-a > that's what u fking sheeple believe, eh??? ???
-a-a >
-a-a > #god
That list is a demonstration of what?-a Resentment towards people who
are intelligent, competent and successful?
i'm sorry, u actually think that's a result of mUh FrEe MaRkEt success???
EfnuEfnuEfnu
where's wilson? or dud? do you all really believe this is just mUh FrEe MaRkEt
EfEaEfEaEfEa
On 5/17/2026 11:17 AM, dart200 wrote:
On 5/17/26 8:50 AM, Noah Sombrero wrote:
On Sat, 16 May 2026 23:49:53 -0700, dart200
<user7160@newsgrouper.org.invalid> wrote:
is this title some reference to joos owning so much of the media for so >>>> long??? and heck it's /still/ going on ...
i mean fuck duds just look at top global social media -
facebook - joo
youtube - joos
whatsapp - joo (no public discourse)
instagram - joo
tiktok - china, but us operations managed by joo
wechat - china
messanger - joo (no public discourse)
telegram - russian (no public discourse)
linkedin - bought by joo founded company
snapchat - not actually joo (no public discourse)
reddit - bought by joos
douyin - china
kuaishou - china
x - bought by "aspirational joo" with majority joo friends
weibo - china
pinterest - joo founder
how in the fuck does 0.2% of the global population have it's fucking
grubby hands all over so much of social media??? i'm supposed to
believe
this was the /just/ the result of mUh FrEe MaRkEt, eh???
-a-a > that's what u fking sheeple believe, eh??? ???
-a-a >
-a-a > #god
That list is a demonstration of what?-a Resentment towards people who
are intelligent, competent and successful?
i'm sorry, u actually think that's a result of mUh FrEe MaRkEt success???
EfnuEfnuEfnu
where's wilson? or dud? do you all really believe this is just mUh
FrEe MaRkEt
EfEaEfEaEfEa
So, it's all about Wilson.
So, I'm beginning to wonder what exactly you think being Jewish is.
Apparently, you're thinking it's all about money or property or real
estate. Jews have it. You want it. Simple enough.
Noah seems to think it's part of Hebrew Biblical prophecy.
So, being Jewish is not a race, or a language dialect.
So, what is it, really?
Does your opinion have anything to do with the Messianic, as Wilson suggested? Specifically, the Messiah death cult? It doesn't matter -
there are apparently no Christians on this list anyway, so I guess you
came here to get enlightened.
On 5/17/2026 11:27 AM, dart200 wrote:
On 5/17/26 6:28 AM, Noah Sombrero wrote:That kind of sound anti-Semitic.
On Sun, 17 May 2026 12:02:29 -0000 (UTC), Tara <tsm@fastmail.ca>
wrote:
Noah Sombrero <fedora@fea.st> wrote:
On Sun, 17 May 2026 03:08:35 -0000 (UTC), Tara <tsm@fastmail.ca>
wrote:
Noah Sombrero <fedora@fea.st> wrote:
On Sat, 16 May 2026 22:55:06 +0100, Julian <julianlzb87@gmail.com> >>>>>>> wrote:
On 16/05/2026 22:35, Tara wrote:
On May 16, 2026 at 5:16:07?PM EDT, "Noah Sombrero"
<fedora@fea.st> wrote:
On Sat, 16 May 2026 20:17:19 -0000 (UTC), Tara <tsm@fastmail.ca> >>>>>>>>>> wrote:
On May 16, 2026 at 3:13:17?PM EDT, "Dude"
<punditster@gmail.com> wrote:
On 5/16/2026 8:50 AM, Noah Sombrero wrote:
On Sat, 16 May 2026 08:42:37 -0700, DudeBill Maher noted that the political far-left and far-right >>>>>>>>>>>> agree on
<punditster@gmail.com> wrote:
On 5/16/2026 6:30 AM, Noah Sombrero wrote:And we certainly do not recognize you as any sort of expert on >>>>>>>>>>>>> anything at all.
On Sat, 16 May 2026 13:08:49 -0000 (UTC), TaraBill Maher was born to a Jewish mother and an Irish- >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Catholic father. He
<tsm@fastmail.ca>
wrote:
Real Time Mat 15/26Bill is great as always.
https://youtu.be/BHOJCbRJu28?si=Vrol9ptbvlLK2Kka >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
was raised in the Catholic faith but did not discover his >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Jewish
heritage until he was a teenager. Today, he identifies as >>>>>>>>>>>>>> an atheist and
does not practice either religion
-aFrom a Buddhist perspective, you should hate nobody. Is >>>>>>>>>>>>>> that the
I say the extremes don't define the conversation. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
baseline, or something else puts people over the edge? >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Did you notice that he tells both sides of the story? >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
So, I've noticed you and Nick have not told both sides of >>>>>>>>>>>>>> the story,
only opinions. You guys don't seem to be big on history. >>>>>>>>>>>>>
Two extremists, one at each end: Noah thinks it's Biblical >>>>>>>>>>>>>> prophecy;
Nick thinks it's genocide against the Arabs (refugees who >>>>>>>>>>>>>> went from 700
to a million population since 1947) and that Israel should >>>>>>>>>>>>>> be divided up
so everyone has at least 1 hectare.
And you would be knowing this how?
So not propaganda.
I told you how.
What did Bill say? Can you sum it up in just a few words. >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Thanks.
Bill deserves to be heard.
The interesting thing for me would be if you listened to >>>>>>>>>>>>> what he said
and could tell me where he tells of hate for palestinians >>>>>>>>>>>>> and their
persecution.-a It is easy to miss, so many who don't want to >>>>>>>>>>>>> hear that
do not.
almost nothing, except for their animosity toward Israel and >>>>>>>>>>>> Jewish people.
He sharply criticized both "woke" campus progressives and >>>>>>>>>>>> right-wing
figures for using rhetoric that stokes antisemitism Like you >>>>>>>>>>>> and Nick.
He also noted that you can wear a keffiyeh anywhere but Jews >>>>>>>>>>> are now afraid to
wear a Star of David pendant.
How about all those various female covering, except head, >>>>>>>>>> garments?
Does somebody object to those?
?
It's an epitomic category error.
my what a delicious big word.-a It means
Embodying, summarizing, encapsulating
epitomic category
Is that confusing enough?
I think julian wants to say that such garments are not in the same >>>>>>> category as the star of david.-a I disagree.-a The star of david is >>>>>>> not
about female modesty, but beyond that both are clear religous
symbols.
And probably get about the same level of tolerance from the rest of >>>>>>> us.-a Nothing overt, of course.
A keffiyeh is a scarf that is traditional to Palestinians and it has >>>>>> nothing to do with female modesty or religious symbol.
Look it up!
A scarf.-a So chances are most people would not know what they are
seeing.-a Not comparable to a star of david.-a I was reaching for
something that would compare.
ItrCOs a symbol of Palestinian nationalism and is warn by activists to >>>> show
support for Palestinians
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Palestinian_keffiyeh
Thanks.-a The point is that without wiki, few people would know the
significance.
so jimmy isn't a joo...
but he is a long time fervent zionistApparently, Jimmy is in favor of a two-state solution.
On 5/17/26 7:06 AM, Noah Sombrero wrote:
On Sun, 17 May 2026 13:42:45 -0000 (UTC), Tara <tsm@fastmail.ca>
wrote:
On May 17, 2026 at 9:28:13?AM EDT, "Noah Sombrero" <fedora@fea.st> wrote: >>>
On Sun, 17 May 2026 12:02:29 -0000 (UTC), Tara <tsm@fastmail.ca>
wrote:
Noah Sombrero <fedora@fea.st> wrote:
On Sun, 17 May 2026 03:08:35 -0000 (UTC), Tara <tsm@fastmail.ca>
wrote:
Noah Sombrero <fedora@fea.st> wrote:
On Sat, 16 May 2026 22:55:06 +0100, Julian <julianlzb87@gmail.com> >>>>>>>> wrote:
On 16/05/2026 22:35, Tara wrote:
On May 16, 2026 at 5:16:07?PM EDT, "Noah Sombrero" <fedora@fea.st> wrote:
On Sat, 16 May 2026 20:17:19 -0000 (UTC), Tara <tsm@fastmail.ca> >>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
On May 16, 2026 at 3:13:17?PM EDT, "Dude" <punditster@gmail.com> wrote:
On 5/16/2026 8:50 AM, Noah Sombrero wrote:
On Sat, 16 May 2026 08:42:37 -0700, Dude <punditster@gmail.com> wrote:Bill Maher noted that the political far-left and far-right agree on
On 5/16/2026 6:30 AM, Noah Sombrero wrote:And we certainly do not recognize you as any sort of expert on >>>>>>>>>>>>>> anything at all.
On Sat, 16 May 2026 13:08:49 -0000 (UTC), Tara <tsm@fastmail.ca>Bill Maher was born to a Jewish mother and an Irish-Catholic father. He
wrote:
Real Time Mat 15/26Bill is great as always.
https://youtu.be/BHOJCbRJu28?si=Vrol9ptbvlLK2Kka >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
was raised in the Catholic faith but did not discover his Jewish
heritage until he was a teenager. Today, he identifies as an atheist and
does not practice either religion
From a Buddhist perspective, you should hate nobody. Is that the
I say the extremes don't define the conversation. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
baseline, or something else puts people over the edge? >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Did you notice that he tells both sides of the story? >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
So, I've noticed you and Nick have not told both sides of the story,
only opinions. You guys don't seem to be big on history. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
Two extremists, one at each end: Noah thinks it's Biblical prophecy;
Nick thinks it's genocide against the Arabs (refugees who went from 700
to a million population since 1947) and that Israel should be divided up
so everyone has at least 1 hectare.
And you would be knowing this how?
So not propaganda.
I told you how.
What did Bill say? Can you sum it up in just a few words. Thanks.
Bill deserves to be heard.
The interesting thing for me would be if you listened to what he said
and could tell me where he tells of hate for palestinians and their
persecution. It is easy to miss, so many who don't want to hear that
do not.
almost nothing, except for their animosity toward Israel and Jewish people.
He sharply criticized both "woke" campus progressives and right-wing
figures for using rhetoric that stokes antisemitism Like you and Nick.
He also noted that you can wear a keffiyeh anywhere but Jews are now afraid to
wear a Star of David pendant.
How about all those various female covering, except head, garments? >>>>>>>>>>> Does somebody object to those?
?
It's an epitomic category error.
my what a delicious big word. It means
Embodying, summarizing, encapsulating
epitomic category
Is that confusing enough?
I think julian wants to say that such garments are not in the same >>>>>>>> category as the star of david. I disagree. The star of david is not >>>>>>>> about female modesty, but beyond that both are clear religous symbols. >>>>>>>> And probably get about the same level of tolerance from the rest of >>>>>>>> us. Nothing overt, of course.
A keffiyeh is a scarf that is traditional to Palestinians and it has >>>>>>> nothing to do with female modesty or religious symbol.
Look it up!
A scarf. So chances are most people would not know what they are
seeing. Not comparable to a star of david. I was reaching for
something that would compare.
It?s a symbol of Palestinian nationalism and is warn by activists to show >>>>> support for Palestinians
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Palestinian_keffiyeh
Thanks. The point is that without wiki, few people would know the
significance.
At this point, I'm sure almost everyone knows the significance :)
Even if they do, the shawl is not a religious symbol. The star of
david is a religious symbol. The total body coverings that some
muslim women wear are religious symbols.
So let's remember, why is there resentment towards arabs? Because
as an american i don't see a need to have a particular resentment since >muzzies didn't actually blow up the world trade centers ?
that was just a ploy to get us to hate the muzzies
--some bombings, etc have been attributed to them, which means in our
imaginations that all such destruction is attributable to them. It
becomes no longer a matter of individuals doing nasty, it becomes in
our imaginations all members of a group sharing responsibility simply
because they are members of that group.
So it is that the entire destruction of gaza is ok in our minds. There
is no point of sufficiency where somebody might say, ok enough. Not
only do we destroy the place, but we build an amusement park in its
place. Is that enough? Oh, I don't think so.
I would say there is no comparable hatred for a group, no comparable
destruction of a culture anywhere in the world than for gazans.
On 5/17/26 8:50 AM, Noah Sombrero wrote:
On Sat, 16 May 2026 23:49:53 -0700, dart200
<user7160@newsgrouper.org.invalid> wrote:
is this title some reference to joos owning so much of the media for so
long??? and heck it's /still/ going on ...
i mean fuck duds just look at top global social media -
facebook - joo
youtube - joos
whatsapp - joo (no public discourse)
instagram - joo
tiktok - china, but us operations managed by joo
wechat - china
messanger - joo (no public discourse)
telegram - russian (no public discourse)
linkedin - bought by joo founded company
snapchat - not actually joo (no public discourse)
reddit - bought by joos
douyin - china
kuaishou - china
x - bought by "aspirational joo" with majority joo friends
weibo - china
pinterest - joo founder
how in the fuck does 0.2% of the global population have it's fucking
grubby hands all over so much of social media??? i'm supposed to believe >>> this was the /just/ the result of mUh FrEe MaRkEt, eh???
> that's what u fking sheeple believe, eh??? ???
>
> #god
That list is a demonstration of what? Resentment towards people who
are intelligent, competent and successful?
i'm sorry, u actually think that's a result of mUh FrEe MaRkEt success???
???--
where's wilson? or dud? do you all really believe this is just mUh FrEe >MaRkEt
???
On Sun, 17 May 2026 11:44:49 -0700, dart200 <user7160@newsgrouper.org.invalid> wrote:
On 5/17/26 7:06 AM, Noah Sombrero wrote:
On Sun, 17 May 2026 13:42:45 -0000 (UTC), Tara <tsm@fastmail.ca>
wrote:
On May 17, 2026 at 9:28:13?AM EDT, "Noah Sombrero" <fedora@fea.st> wrote: >>>>
On Sun, 17 May 2026 12:02:29 -0000 (UTC), Tara <tsm@fastmail.ca>
wrote:
Noah Sombrero <fedora@fea.st> wrote:
On Sun, 17 May 2026 03:08:35 -0000 (UTC), Tara <tsm@fastmail.ca> >>>>>>> wrote:
Noah Sombrero <fedora@fea.st> wrote:
On Sat, 16 May 2026 22:55:06 +0100, Julian <julianlzb87@gmail.com> >>>>>>>>> wrote:
On 16/05/2026 22:35, Tara wrote:
On May 16, 2026 at 5:16:07?PM EDT, "Noah Sombrero" <fedora@fea.st> wrote:
On Sat, 16 May 2026 20:17:19 -0000 (UTC), Tara <tsm@fastmail.ca> >>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
On May 16, 2026 at 3:13:17?PM EDT, "Dude" <punditster@gmail.com> wrote:
On 5/16/2026 8:50 AM, Noah Sombrero wrote:
On Sat, 16 May 2026 08:42:37 -0700, Dude <punditster@gmail.com> wrote:Bill Maher noted that the political far-left and far-right agree on
On 5/16/2026 6:30 AM, Noah Sombrero wrote:And we certainly do not recognize you as any sort of expert on >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> anything at all.
On Sat, 16 May 2026 13:08:49 -0000 (UTC), Tara <tsm@fastmail.ca>Bill Maher was born to a Jewish mother and an Irish-Catholic father. He
wrote:
Real Time Mat 15/26Bill is great as always.
https://youtu.be/BHOJCbRJu28?si=Vrol9ptbvlLK2Kka >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
was raised in the Catholic faith but did not discover his Jewish
heritage until he was a teenager. Today, he identifies as an atheist and
does not practice either religion
From a Buddhist perspective, you should hate nobody. Is that the
I say the extremes don't define the conversation. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
baseline, or something else puts people over the edge? >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Did you notice that he tells both sides of the story? >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
So, I've noticed you and Nick have not told both sides of the story,
only opinions. You guys don't seem to be big on history. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
Two extremists, one at each end: Noah thinks it's Biblical prophecy;
Nick thinks it's genocide against the Arabs (refugees who went from 700
to a million population since 1947) and that Israel should be divided up
so everyone has at least 1 hectare.
And you would be knowing this how?
So not propaganda.
I told you how.
What did Bill say? Can you sum it up in just a few words. Thanks.
Bill deserves to be heard.
The interesting thing for me would be if you listened to what he said
and could tell me where he tells of hate for palestinians and their
persecution. It is easy to miss, so many who don't want to hear that
do not.
almost nothing, except for their animosity toward Israel and Jewish people.
He sharply criticized both "woke" campus progressives and right-wing
figures for using rhetoric that stokes antisemitism Like you and Nick.
He also noted that you can wear a keffiyeh anywhere but Jews are now afraid to
wear a Star of David pendant.
How about all those various female covering, except head, garments?
Does somebody object to those?
?
It's an epitomic category error.
my what a delicious big word. It means
Embodying, summarizing, encapsulating
epitomic category
Is that confusing enough?
I think julian wants to say that such garments are not in the same >>>>>>>>> category as the star of david. I disagree. The star of david is not >>>>>>>>> about female modesty, but beyond that both are clear religous symbols.
And probably get about the same level of tolerance from the rest of >>>>>>>>> us. Nothing overt, of course.
A keffiyeh is a scarf that is traditional to Palestinians and it has >>>>>>>> nothing to do with female modesty or religious symbol.
Look it up!
A scarf. So chances are most people would not know what they are >>>>>>> seeing. Not comparable to a star of david. I was reaching for
something that would compare.
It?s a symbol of Palestinian nationalism and is warn by activists to show
support for Palestinians
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Palestinian_keffiyeh
Thanks. The point is that without wiki, few people would know the
significance.
At this point, I'm sure almost everyone knows the significance :)
Even if they do, the shawl is not a religious symbol. The star of
david is a religious symbol. The total body coverings that some
muslim women wear are religious symbols.
So let's remember, why is there resentment towards arabs? Because
as an american i don't see a need to have a particular resentment since
muzzies didn't actually blow up the world trade centers ?
that was just a ploy to get us to hate the muzzies
The world must seem a scary place to you.
some bombings, etc have been attributed to them, which means in our
imaginations that all such destruction is attributable to them. It
becomes no longer a matter of individuals doing nasty, it becomes in
our imaginations all members of a group sharing responsibility simply
because they are members of that group.
So it is that the entire destruction of gaza is ok in our minds. There
is no point of sufficiency where somebody might say, ok enough. Not
only do we destroy the place, but we build an amusement park in its
place. Is that enough? Oh, I don't think so.
I would say there is no comparable hatred for a group, no comparable
destruction of a culture anywhere in the world than for gazans.
On 5/17/2026 12:50 AM, dart200 wrote:
On 5/16/26 11:06 AM, Julian wrote:You came here to get enlightened?
President Donald Trump struck a conciliatory tone during his trip to
China. He returned from his Beijing summit with Xi Jinping yesterday
full of praise for the rCLgreat leader,rCY who is, in TrumprCOs
estimations, rCLan incredible guy.rCY The summit was rCLvery successful, >>> world-renowned, and unforgettable,rCY according to the President, who
insisted that rCLa lot of different problems were settled.rCY But thererCOs
one problem that hasnrCOt been addressed: the growing number of Chinese >>> operations on US soil.
Last week Eileen Wang, the mayor of the southern Californian city of
Arcadia agreed to plead guilty to acting as an illegal agent of
China. She was once regarded as a rising political star, named rCLwoman >>> of the yearrCY in 2024 by Californian Congresswoman Judy Chu, who
applauded her rCLstrong voice, leadership, and dedication to serving
her community.rCY Her plea came just two days before a New York man was >>> found guilty of acting as a Chinese agent, having been accused of
operating a rCLsecret police stationrCY on behalf of Beijing.
The latest cases are rCLjust the tip of the iceberg,rCY according to
Michael Lucci, the founder of Armor Action, a conservative group that
monitors threats from China. While the Washington DC based Center for
Strategic and International Studies warned last week that Beijing has
rCLaggressively ramped up its offensive irregular warfare activities
against the United States.rCY
ChinarCOs espionage and influence operations are extensive. They range
from attempts to intimidate dissidents living in the US to the
peddling of Communist party propaganda, the recruiting of members of
the military to steal state secrets to the theft of artificial
intelligence know-how and the smuggling of top-end chips to train AI
models. Late last year, a Chinese national even pleaded guilty to
bringing a biological pathogen into the US. Multiple Chinese-linked
biolabs have been found across the country, often in residential
areas and with garages filled with potentially deadly viruses.
Eileen Wang, who could face as many as ten years in jail, ran a
website called the US News Center, which described itself as a source
of news for Chinese Americans living in Arcadia, but was accused of
pumping out CCP propaganda. The Department of Justice said a Chinese
government official sent Wang pre-written articles via the WeChat
messaging app, a Chinese phone application widely used in the Chinese
diaspora. One article identified by the DoJ denied allegations of
well-documented abuse of ethnic Uyghurs in Xinjiang province.
In the New York case, federal prosecutors alleged that during a visit
to China in 2022, Lu Jianwang was tasked with opening an unofficial
rCLpolice stationrCY on behalf of the Chinese government in the cityrCOs >>> Chinatown. He began by offering apparently innocuous services to
Chinese nationals, such as help in renewing driversrCO licenses, while
using this as a cover to locate a pro-democracy activist living in
the US. According to Safeguard Defenders, a human rights group, China
operates more than 100 of these centers in at least 50 countries,
instruments of what they call rCLtransnational repressionrCY against
opponents. Lu faces 30 years in jail.
On the eve of TrumprCOs China summit, Beijing was accused of massive
intellectual theft from American AI labs, through a process called
distillation rCo whereby China illicitly trains its smaller AI models
on the output of larger (and expensively developed) US models. rCLThe
US government has information indicating that foreign entities,
principally based in China, are engaged in deliberate, industrial-
scale campaigns to distill US frontier AI systems,rCY according to a
memo written by Michael Kratsios, director of the White House Office
of Science and Technology Policy.
US prosecutors also claim to have busted an international smuggling
ring that funneled advanced chips worth billions of dollars to China
in defiance of export controls. The smugglers allegedly set up an
extensive and lavishly funded network of front companies to get round
US restrictions on the sale of chips.
Last year, the FBI revealed details of a Chinese espionage operation
dubbed Salt Typhoon, whereby BeijingrCOs cyber spies burrowed deep
inside the systems of more than a dozen of AmericarCOs largest telecoms >>> companies, picking off high-value targets and accessing call logs and
text messages. They had even compromised the rCLlawful interceptrCY
system that US police and intelligence agencies use to implement
court- authorized surveillance. It was the most extensive and
ambitious Chinese cyber espionage operation ever exposed.
Chinese espionage is like an enormous vacuum cleaner, hoovering up
technology and information on a colossal scale. It utilizes multiple
intelligence-gathering techniques, both formal and informal. And it
has been at the heart of ChinarCOs decades long program of economic and >>> military modernization.
Under Xi, China has become more ambitious and brazen. While all
states seek to exert influence rCo it is, after all the stuff of all
diplomacy rCo ChinarCOs operations are mostly clandestine, operating in >>> the shadows, usually through front organizations and individuals. It
methodically targets politicians, influential businesspeople and
academics who might be useful to the party. Overseas Chinese
individuals and organizations have been a particular target.
After Eileen Wang agreed to plead guilty in Arcadia, assistant US
attorney Bill Essayli said: rCLThis plea agreement is the latest
success in our determination to defend the homeland against ChinarCOs
efforts to corrupt our institutions.rCY But is America really doing
enough to counter these Chinese threats? Democrat Senator Mark
Warner, vice chairman of the Senate Select Committee on Intelligence,
last year warned that a politically-driven purge of the FBI is
damaging the BureaurCOs ability to take on Beijing. A quarter of FBI
agents have been redeployed from counterterrorism, cyber and
espionage to immigration roundups.
Concerns have also been raised about the state of the USrCOs digital
defenses. David Mussington, a former head of Infrastructure Security
at the US Cybersecurity and Infrastructure Security Agency, the
agency tasked with protecting AmericarCOs most critical systems, has
warned that while adversaries are pouring money into enhancing their
cyber abilities, the Trump administration has gutted CISA. Its budget
has been cut by nearly half and a third of its staff has been fired.
rCLWe made some fantastic trade deals,rCY Trump said as he left China.
Yet little of the detail has been released, while national security
seems not to have been mentioned at all. BeijingrCOs operations on
American soil are only going to intensify until its leaders decide to
act.
Ian Williams
like what's the problem here even?
am i really supposed care what chinese people say in a free society?
it's a free society! speak/press/believe/assemble about whatever the
fuck you want!
oh wait i forgot ur a eurocuck and u don't know what freedom is
glad we fucking overthrew ur dumbass landlord centuries ago Efc|Efc+Efc|Efc+Efc|Efc+
On Sun, 17 May 2026 11:44:49 -0700, dart200 <user7160@newsgrouper.org.invalid> wrote:
On 5/17/26 7:06 AM, Noah Sombrero wrote:
On Sun, 17 May 2026 13:42:45 -0000 (UTC), Tara <tsm@fastmail.ca>
wrote:
On May 17, 2026 at 9:28:13?AM EDT, "Noah Sombrero" <fedora@fea.st> wrote: >>>>
On Sun, 17 May 2026 12:02:29 -0000 (UTC), Tara <tsm@fastmail.ca>
wrote:
Noah Sombrero <fedora@fea.st> wrote:
On Sun, 17 May 2026 03:08:35 -0000 (UTC), Tara <tsm@fastmail.ca> >>>>>>> wrote:
Noah Sombrero <fedora@fea.st> wrote:
On Sat, 16 May 2026 22:55:06 +0100, Julian <julianlzb87@gmail.com> >>>>>>>>> wrote:
On 16/05/2026 22:35, Tara wrote:
On May 16, 2026 at 5:16:07?PM EDT, "Noah Sombrero" <fedora@fea.st> wrote:
On Sat, 16 May 2026 20:17:19 -0000 (UTC), Tara <tsm@fastmail.ca> >>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
On May 16, 2026 at 3:13:17?PM EDT, "Dude" <punditster@gmail.com> wrote:
On 5/16/2026 8:50 AM, Noah Sombrero wrote:
On Sat, 16 May 2026 08:42:37 -0700, Dude <punditster@gmail.com> wrote:Bill Maher noted that the political far-left and far-right agree on
On 5/16/2026 6:30 AM, Noah Sombrero wrote:And we certainly do not recognize you as any sort of expert on >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> anything at all.
On Sat, 16 May 2026 13:08:49 -0000 (UTC), Tara <tsm@fastmail.ca>Bill Maher was born to a Jewish mother and an Irish-Catholic father. He
wrote:
Real Time Mat 15/26Bill is great as always.
https://youtu.be/BHOJCbRJu28?si=Vrol9ptbvlLK2Kka >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
was raised in the Catholic faith but did not discover his Jewish
heritage until he was a teenager. Today, he identifies as an atheist and
does not practice either religion
From a Buddhist perspective, you should hate nobody. Is that the
I say the extremes don't define the conversation. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
baseline, or something else puts people over the edge? >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Did you notice that he tells both sides of the story? >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
So, I've noticed you and Nick have not told both sides of the story,
only opinions. You guys don't seem to be big on history. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
Two extremists, one at each end: Noah thinks it's Biblical prophecy;
Nick thinks it's genocide against the Arabs (refugees who went from 700
to a million population since 1947) and that Israel should be divided up
so everyone has at least 1 hectare.
And you would be knowing this how?
So not propaganda.
I told you how.
What did Bill say? Can you sum it up in just a few words. Thanks.
Bill deserves to be heard.
The interesting thing for me would be if you listened to what he said
and could tell me where he tells of hate for palestinians and their
persecution. It is easy to miss, so many who don't want to hear that
do not.
almost nothing, except for their animosity toward Israel and Jewish people.
He sharply criticized both "woke" campus progressives and right-wing
figures for using rhetoric that stokes antisemitism Like you and Nick.
He also noted that you can wear a keffiyeh anywhere but Jews are now afraid to
wear a Star of David pendant.
How about all those various female covering, except head, garments?
Does somebody object to those?
?
It's an epitomic category error.
my what a delicious big word. It means
Embodying, summarizing, encapsulating
epitomic category
Is that confusing enough?
I think julian wants to say that such garments are not in the same >>>>>>>>> category as the star of david. I disagree. The star of david is not >>>>>>>>> about female modesty, but beyond that both are clear religous symbols.
And probably get about the same level of tolerance from the rest of >>>>>>>>> us. Nothing overt, of course.
A keffiyeh is a scarf that is traditional to Palestinians and it has >>>>>>>> nothing to do with female modesty or religious symbol.
Look it up!
A scarf. So chances are most people would not know what they are >>>>>>> seeing. Not comparable to a star of david. I was reaching for
something that would compare.
It?s a symbol of Palestinian nationalism and is warn by activists to show
support for Palestinians
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Palestinian_keffiyeh
Thanks. The point is that without wiki, few people would know the
significance.
At this point, I'm sure almost everyone knows the significance :)
Even if they do, the shawl is not a religious symbol. The star of
david is a religious symbol. The total body coverings that some
muslim women wear are religious symbols.
So let's remember, why is there resentment towards arabs? Because
as an american i don't see a need to have a particular resentment since
muzzies didn't actually blow up the world trade centers ?
that was just a ploy to get us to hate the muzzies
The world must seem a scary place to you.
--
some bombings, etc have been attributed to them, which means in our
imaginations that all such destruction is attributable to them. It
becomes no longer a matter of individuals doing nasty, it becomes in
our imaginations all members of a group sharing responsibility simply
because they are members of that group.
So it is that the entire destruction of gaza is ok in our minds. There
is no point of sufficiency where somebody might say, ok enough. Not
only do we destroy the place, but we build an amusement park in its
place. Is that enough? Oh, I don't think so.
I would say there is no comparable hatred for a group, no comparable
destruction of a culture anywhere in the world than for gazans.
On Sun, 17 May 2026 11:17:51 -0700, dart200 <user7160@newsgrouper.org.invalid> wrote:
On 5/17/26 8:50 AM, Noah Sombrero wrote:
On Sat, 16 May 2026 23:49:53 -0700, dart200
<user7160@newsgrouper.org.invalid> wrote:
is this title some reference to joos owning so much of the media for so >>>> long??? and heck it's /still/ going on ...
i mean fuck duds just look at top global social media -
facebook - joo
youtube - joos
whatsapp - joo (no public discourse)
instagram - joo
tiktok - china, but us operations managed by joo
wechat - china
messanger - joo (no public discourse)
telegram - russian (no public discourse)
linkedin - bought by joo founded company
snapchat - not actually joo (no public discourse)
reddit - bought by joos
douyin - china
kuaishou - china
x - bought by "aspirational joo" with majority joo friends
weibo - china
pinterest - joo founder
how in the fuck does 0.2% of the global population have it's fucking
grubby hands all over so much of social media??? i'm supposed to believe >>>> this was the /just/ the result of mUh FrEe MaRkEt, eh???
> that's what u fking sheeple believe, eh??? ???
>
> #god
That list is a demonstration of what? Resentment towards people who
are intelligent, competent and successful?
i'm sorry, u actually think that's a result of mUh FrEe MaRkEt success???
I think their performance across time across cultures speaks for
itself. The curse of god in the bible also say something, they were--
cursed for their pride. Not that you need to believe them cursed.
That is not the point of that passage, like many in the bible.
???
where's wilson? or dud? do you all really believe this is just mUh FrEe
MaRkEt
??
On 5/17/26 3:33 PM, Noah Sombrero wrote:
On Sun, 17 May 2026 11:44:49 -0700, dart200
<user7160@newsgrouper.org.invalid> wrote:
On 5/17/26 7:06 AM, Noah Sombrero wrote:
On Sun, 17 May 2026 13:42:45 -0000 (UTC), Tara <tsm@fastmail.ca>
wrote:
On May 17, 2026 at 9:28:13?AM EDT, "Noah Sombrero" <fedora@fea.st> wrote: >>>>>
On Sun, 17 May 2026 12:02:29 -0000 (UTC), Tara <tsm@fastmail.ca>
wrote:
Noah Sombrero <fedora@fea.st> wrote:
On Sun, 17 May 2026 03:08:35 -0000 (UTC), Tara <tsm@fastmail.ca> >>>>>>>> wrote:
Noah Sombrero <fedora@fea.st> wrote:
On Sat, 16 May 2026 22:55:06 +0100, Julian <julianlzb87@gmail.com> >>>>>>>>>> wrote:
On 16/05/2026 22:35, Tara wrote:
On May 16, 2026 at 5:16:07?PM EDT, "Noah Sombrero" <fedora@fea.st> wrote:
On Sat, 16 May 2026 20:17:19 -0000 (UTC), Tara <tsm@fastmail.ca> >>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
On May 16, 2026 at 3:13:17?PM EDT, "Dude" <punditster@gmail.com> wrote:
On 5/16/2026 8:50 AM, Noah Sombrero wrote:
On Sat, 16 May 2026 08:42:37 -0700, Dude <punditster@gmail.com> wrote:Bill Maher noted that the political far-left and far-right agree on
On 5/16/2026 6:30 AM, Noah Sombrero wrote:And we certainly do not recognize you as any sort of expert on >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> anything at all.
On Sat, 16 May 2026 13:08:49 -0000 (UTC), Tara <tsm@fastmail.ca>Bill Maher was born to a Jewish mother and an Irish-Catholic father. He
wrote:
Real Time Mat 15/26Bill is great as always.
https://youtu.be/BHOJCbRJu28?si=Vrol9ptbvlLK2Kka >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
was raised in the Catholic faith but did not discover his Jewish
heritage until he was a teenager. Today, he identifies as an atheist and
does not practice either religion
From a Buddhist perspective, you should hate nobody. Is that the
I say the extremes don't define the conversation. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
baseline, or something else puts people over the edge? >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Did you notice that he tells both sides of the story? >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
So, I've noticed you and Nick have not told both sides of the story,
only opinions. You guys don't seem to be big on history. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
Two extremists, one at each end: Noah thinks it's Biblical prophecy;
Nick thinks it's genocide against the Arabs (refugees who went from 700
to a million population since 1947) and that Israel should be divided up
so everyone has at least 1 hectare.
And you would be knowing this how?
So not propaganda.
I told you how.
What did Bill say? Can you sum it up in just a few words. Thanks.
Bill deserves to be heard.
The interesting thing for me would be if you listened to what he said
and could tell me where he tells of hate for palestinians and their
persecution. It is easy to miss, so many who don't want to hear that
do not.
almost nothing, except for their animosity toward Israel and Jewish people.
He sharply criticized both "woke" campus progressives and right-wing
figures for using rhetoric that stokes antisemitism Like you and Nick.
He also noted that you can wear a keffiyeh anywhere but Jews are now afraid to
wear a Star of David pendant.
How about all those various female covering, except head, garments?
Does somebody object to those?
?
It's an epitomic category error.
my what a delicious big word. It means
Embodying, summarizing, encapsulating
epitomic category
Is that confusing enough?
I think julian wants to say that such garments are not in the same >>>>>>>>>> category as the star of david. I disagree. The star of david is not
about female modesty, but beyond that both are clear religous symbols.
And probably get about the same level of tolerance from the rest of >>>>>>>>>> us. Nothing overt, of course.
A keffiyeh is a scarf that is traditional to Palestinians and it has >>>>>>>>> nothing to do with female modesty or religious symbol.
Look it up!
A scarf. So chances are most people would not know what they are >>>>>>>> seeing. Not comparable to a star of david. I was reaching for >>>>>>>> something that would compare.
It?s a symbol of Palestinian nationalism and is warn by activists to show
support for Palestinians
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Palestinian_keffiyeh
Thanks. The point is that without wiki, few people would know the >>>>>> significance.
At this point, I'm sure almost everyone knows the significance :)
Even if they do, the shawl is not a religious symbol. The star of
david is a religious symbol. The total body coverings that some
muslim women wear are religious symbols.
So let's remember, why is there resentment towards arabs? Because
as an american i don't see a need to have a particular resentment since
muzzies didn't actually blow up the world trade centers ?
that was just a ploy to get us to hate the muzzies
The world must seem a scary place to you.
idk world made so much more sense to me after awhile of accepting 911
was an engineered demolition setup to look like a terrorist attack...
the part i really can't figure out is: who in the fuck decided to do
911, on the date 911?
> was someone trying to get god's attention or wat???
>
> #god
like u think some backwater muzzle planned that date so precisely???
--
some bombings, etc have been attributed to them, which means in our
imaginations that all such destruction is attributable to them. It
becomes no longer a matter of individuals doing nasty, it becomes in
our imaginations all members of a group sharing responsibility simply
because they are members of that group.
So it is that the entire destruction of gaza is ok in our minds. There >>>> is no point of sufficiency where somebody might say, ok enough. Not
only do we destroy the place, but we build an amusement park in its
place. Is that enough? Oh, I don't think so.
I would say there is no comparable hatred for a group, no comparable
destruction of a culture anywhere in the world than for gazans.
idk world made so much more sense to me after awhile of accepting 911
was an engineered demolition setup to look like a terrorist attack...
the part i really can't figure out is: who in the fuck decided to do
911, on the date 911?
On 5/18/2026 12:08 AM, dart200 wrote:
idk world made so much more sense to me after awhile of accepting 911
was an engineered demolition setup to look like a terrorist attack...
the part i really can't figure out is: who in the fuck decided to do
911, on the date 911?
Random fact: Construction of the Pentagon began with groundbreaking on September 11, 1941.
On 5/18/2026 12:08 AM, dart200 wrote:
idk world made so much more sense to me after awhile of accepting 911
was an engineered demolition setup to look like a terrorist attack...
the part i really can't figure out is: who in the fuck decided to do
911, on the date 911?
Random fact: Construction of the Pentagon began with groundbreaking on September 11, 1941.
On 5/17/26 2:19 PM, Dude wrote:
On 5/17/2026 11:17 AM, dart200 wrote:
On 5/17/26 8:50 AM, Noah Sombrero wrote:So, it's all about Wilson.
On Sat, 16 May 2026 23:49:53 -0700, dart200
<user7160@newsgrouper.org.invalid> wrote:
is this title some reference to joos owning so much of the media
for so
long??? and heck it's /still/ going on ...
i mean fuck duds just look at top global social media -
facebook - joo
youtube - joos
whatsapp - joo (no public discourse)
instagram - joo
tiktok - china, but us operations managed by joo
wechat - china
messanger - joo (no public discourse)
telegram - russian (no public discourse)
linkedin - bought by joo founded company
snapchat - not actually joo (no public discourse)
reddit - bought by joos
douyin - china
kuaishou - china
x - bought by "aspirational joo" with majority joo friends
weibo - china
pinterest - joo founder
how in the fuck does 0.2% of the global population have it's fucking >>>>> grubby hands all over so much of social media??? i'm supposed to
believe
this was the /just/ the result of mUh FrEe MaRkEt, eh???
-a-a > that's what u fking sheeple believe, eh??? ???
-a-a >
-a-a > #god
That list is a demonstration of what?-a Resentment towards people who
are intelligent, competent and successful?
i'm sorry, u actually think that's a result of mUh FrEe MaRkEt
success???
EfnuEfnuEfnu
where's wilson? or dud? do you all really believe this is just mUh
FrEe MaRkEt
EfEaEfEaEfEa
So, I'm beginning to wonder what exactly you think being Jewish is.
Apparently, you're thinking it's all about money or property or real
estate. Jews have it. You want it. Simple enough.
Noah seems to think it's part of Hebrew Biblical prophecy.
So, being Jewish is not a race, or a language dialect.
So, what is it, really?
Does your opinion have anything to do with the Messianic, as Wilson
suggested? Specifically, the Messiah death cult? It doesn't matter -
there are apparently no Christians on this list anyway, so I guess you
came here to get enlightened.
like i've said before:
i came everywhere to get enlightened EfiaEf2i
On 5/17/2026 3:00 PM, dart200 wrote:
On 5/17/26 2:19 PM, Dude wrote:You came to the right place if you want to post small talk.
On 5/17/2026 11:17 AM, dart200 wrote:
On 5/17/26 8:50 AM, Noah Sombrero wrote:So, it's all about Wilson.
On Sat, 16 May 2026 23:49:53 -0700, dart200
<user7160@newsgrouper.org.invalid> wrote:
is this title some reference to joos owning so much of the media
for so
long??? and heck it's /still/ going on ...
i mean fuck duds just look at top global social media -
facebook - joo
youtube - joos
whatsapp - joo (no public discourse)
instagram - joo
tiktok - china, but us operations managed by joo
wechat - china
messanger - joo (no public discourse)
telegram - russian (no public discourse)
linkedin - bought by joo founded company
snapchat - not actually joo (no public discourse)
reddit - bought by joos
douyin - china
kuaishou - china
x - bought by "aspirational joo" with majority joo friends
weibo - china
pinterest - joo founder
how in the fuck does 0.2% of the global population have it's fucking >>>>>> grubby hands all over so much of social media??? i'm supposed to
believe
this was the /just/ the result of mUh FrEe MaRkEt, eh???
-a-a > that's what u fking sheeple believe, eh??? ???
-a-a >
-a-a > #god
That list is a demonstration of what?-a Resentment towards people who >>>>> are intelligent, competent and successful?
i'm sorry, u actually think that's a result of mUh FrEe MaRkEt
success???
EfnuEfnuEfnu
where's wilson? or dud? do you all really believe this is just mUh
FrEe MaRkEt
EfEaEfEaEfEa
So, I'm beginning to wonder what exactly you think being Jewish is.
Apparently, you're thinking it's all about money or property or real
estate. Jews have it. You want it. Simple enough.
Noah seems to think it's part of Hebrew Biblical prophecy.
So, being Jewish is not a race, or a language dialect.
So, what is it, really?
Does your opinion have anything to do with the Messianic, as Wilson
suggested? Specifically, the Messiah death cult? It doesn't matter -
there are apparently no Christians on this list anyway, so I guess
you came here to get enlightened.
like i've said before:
i came everywhere to get enlightened EfiaEf2i
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